NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Barr burns Jets, Packers splurge & Charley Casserly joins the show!

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal chat on Day 2 of the Free Agency Frenzy to discuss Anthony Barr going back to the Vikings (2:00) and CJ Mosley signing with the Jets (4:00). The guys are joined by NFL Media’s Charley Casserly (14:00) to get his thoughts on the latest free agency news. To close the show, the heroes discuss Teddy Bridgewater staying with the Saints (28:30), Sheldon Richardson to the Browns (46:20), Thomas Davis to the Chargers (49:25) and make a sandwich bet on Earl Thomas’ landing spot (54:00).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is that, boys? Hey, Dan. Day two. Reagency. And things are happening, Mark. It's, like, I always have issues sleeping, but a lot of times, like, in other times of year, I'll maybe watch a movie in the middle of the night. It's, like, constant refreshing of Roto World and constant, like, online sessions on Twitter for, like, two or three hours in the middle of the middle of.

the night please let me take you through because obviously and this is not a surprise to anyone but the jets were always going to be a huge player in this free agency period uh for a lot of reasons uh not the least of which that they had almost more money than anyone once the cj moseley con or once the anthony bar contract came out uh once uh it was her you know the levi on bell thing was floating out there um i sent to tweet out you know being happy about the direction of the Jets Free Agency. And I got a DM seconds later from Mike Arafolo, a helpful reminder he offered to me.

And I respect it. He's a guy from the region as well. He just wrote to me simply. The tension here is unbearable. Pregnant pause. He wrote, what's rule number one when you're feeling good as a Jets fan, question mark? Don't. Which immediately I'm like, oh, Jesus, what does that mean?

Sam Darnold drug busts. That's all he wrote? That's it. And then I wrote him back. You know, I questioned whether Sam Donald was caught up in a felony type situation. He said, ha, ha, ha, not that bad. But what it was was Mike waiting all night by the phone to be able to confirm that Anthony Bard backed out on the Jets. And then Ian quickly reported that that back.

back out by Anthony Barr could lead to the Jets jumping back into Levi-on-Bel and as we're taping this right now and we'll see what happens. Be nice if everything got worked out in this next 45 minutes that is in the air. So a roller coaster of emotion is a Jets fan and that's free agency though.

I think the Jets lucked out. What they were going to pay Anthony Barr superstar money to have Greg Williams sprinkle some magic dust on him and change his position as a pro. I know it's the whole thing is like the Jets fans and Jets were already convinced him. Well, he didn't in college and like that, okay, that's great. But it's just, it's a big chance.

Every free agent signing is a huge chance. And that is a huge chance to take. I mean, you can have a huge bus like Tremaine Johnson without taking any chances. That's a huge chance to take. I think they're fine. Anthony Arbar is better off in Minnesota. I thought the same thing. And I live in an irrational fear, especially if I was a fan of that team, that you bring in Greg Williams.

And then he brings in his guys. Then he's gone after a year. You've changed your defense. He brought in a square hole for a round peg or the opposite. I wasn't upset about it. I was more like, uh, that's what he was talking about, referring to Mike. Uh, the Moseley signing, I liked it, but the fact that it was Moseley and Barr, I thought it was a little much at the linebacker position.

So maybe it all, uh, ends up, in the wash, it works out for the Jets. Usually it doesn't, though. So I'm waiting, I'm waiting on how the other shoe drops. Not a cupcake, uh, snap food this. time around. No. Nothing like that. No, and you're still signing people left and right.

I mean, you're making CJ Mosley the richest middle linebacker in the league. You're playing Caledchi with Semley, a ton of money. I like Jameson. I mean, do you now have to tell Darren Lee you didn't mean any of that stuff? Well, that's the other part of this. Well, you're cutting Darren Lee. I mean, it's Mike McCagnan making up, and that's not official yet, but I think that's expected.

It's Mike McCagnan making up for a mistake. Even with Bargon. Well, otherwise, they have three inside linebackers. Darren Lee, by the way. Yeah, different positions. Yeah, I think he's gone. think they wanted him gone regardless. It didn't really get a lot of pub, but he actually made progress this past season,

but then he had the suspension, which not only takes him off the field for the first four games next year, it also removed reportedly the guaranteed money, which gives the Jets easy out if they want it. So, yes, the Jets have a lot of money in a GM that's fighting for his job right now, and I think that's a big part of what's going on right now. McCagman's going all in. This is not a John Izzick tear it all down, as record. Ryan tears his hair out situation, and we'll see how it works out.

But on balance still, as we speak right now, I'm okay with how things are playing out for gang green. C.J. Mosley, I mean, this was a guy, this one hurt, I would think, for the Ravens. This is a guy in his prime, Wes. I think he was number 12 on your top 101, or that's where he is when we started the top 101 free agents list. I like it as a fit for the Jets to get a star guy in his prime. What about for the Ravens? How devastating is it? Ravens have lost Terrell Suggs, Eric Weddle, C.J. Mosley, and Zadarius Smith from a defense that was ranked number one for a good portion of last year. Those are all big, big losses.

Those guys played major snaps. They were four of the most important players in that defense. And I think especially with the way that Lamar Jackson is set up to play, you're talking about low-scor. run heavy games where you need a good defense. So to me, this feels like a year of transition for the Ravens. Yeah, they were sort of due to have one of these years eventually. I think the Mosley one is the only one that really pains them. Suggs is, I think, surprising.

But I think Mosley's the guy that they just thought, like, that's a lifetime Raven. And he's a really good player. I don't think, you know, when you watch the Raven, I don't think Mosley's this monster difference maker. It's more that he's a leader. He has a great reputation. He gets everyone in the right place.

He's rock solid, and you're going to pay a premium if you're the Jets in free agency. The Ravens, I'm not that worried about them just because this is what they do. For years and years, they kind of have these mid-level guys that get huge money elsewhere in free agency, and they always figure it out. So I'm going to give them the benefit of that. They're only a couple off-seasons removed from getting a lot younger on defense and having to develop the next wave. And it's kind of like, I love all these people on Twitter saying,

Oh, the AFC North is salted away for the Browns. Give me a break. The Ravens and the Steelers, year after year, have proven that they can lose people and develop behind them. Until that's not true, don't tell me that the Ravens are out of it in the AFC. Well, no one was talking about Zadaria Smith a year or two ago, and they have a way of developing guys. And you look at their roster, and, you know, they do have some answers. They cut Weddle. That was their own decision.

John Brown, I think, is a big loss for them, too. But it's just a lot at once. I'm not saying hand the division to the Browns, but it's undeniable that one of the early trends of this year's free agency is the talent drain in the NFC, AFC North, I mean. No doubt. Are we okay with the money that Anthony Barr gets to stay in Minnesota? He had the change of heart.

And like Greg was saying, the Jets were going to attempt to turn Barr into the type of pass rusher he was in his college days. Instead, he stays home in a familiar environment and gets paid handsomely for it. they know him so well. I mean, he's been in that defense for five years. He probably, it might have been his best season last year. That, or I think it was his second season. 2015.

Yeah, that he stood out. But he played well. Like, when your own team gives you that much money, like I just trust. They know what they're going to do with you. And they self-scouted him for half a decade. Especially, Mike. And it's amazing how many Vikings defensive players have huge contracts or just Vikings in general. There could be one fewer because the rap sheet was saying this could cause ever

and Griffin to be shed. Hmm. Well, I guess if you think about his... Did not have a good year last year, even when he played. Right. And, you know, he had pretty serious mental health issues, which is a tough thing to cut a guy for, but it is, you know, it's a factor.

I mean, it's definitely a factor. Bar, all these guys who get to free agency, you would have saved money if you just had offered him a better contract earlier on. That's fair. You mentioned Zadaria Smith, who came off a big year with the Ravens, last year, eight and a half sacks, the Packers, who, you know, for years and years and years and years and years,

that's what my son does now when he really wants to express himself, he'll just say really like 20 times in a row. It's starting to rub off on me. He's got that years and years and years experience on earth, too, to look back and with that real perspective. Anyway, so Zadarius Smith, he heads to the Packers who now are active in free agency for the past two seasons, a four-year 66 million-dollar deal, like we're saying. Baltimore loses another young defender who got the job done. And the Packers, they fill a hole here, Wes, at Pass Rush.

Yeah, I think both of these guys, Adairius Smith and Preston Smith, had big, big years last year, 2018. They were also contract years, and really the only years you can say, this was a starting caliber player in the NFL. This was a really good player. in their entire careers, those are the only years you can say it. So that would give me pause if I'm a Packers fan. I think Preston Smith's been pretty solid. That was his best season.

He was a problem for them. He's solid. In years past, it was, why can't the Redskins get a better pass rusher opposite Ryan Carrigan? And now the Packers pay big money for that same guy coming off a career year. It's like Clay Matthews obviously is gone. They got rid of Nick Perry. And the one thing with the Zadaria Smith, it's like, you know, you can't worry about him based on previous Ravens free agents.

But like Paul Kruger, Pernel McPhee were guys that had big years and then signed big contracts and went elsewhere. And it's like maybe it is a little bit of the Baltimore defense, you know? When you hear Tony Romo call a Ravens game and he just glows about their defensive coordinator and the scheme and the timing of their blitzes. So to me, that would be a second red flag for Zadarius Smith. How much is it the scheme and how much it is his talent? And he was the guy that I think they knew was going to be gone

just because he was going to get that sort of money. And he never played more than 500 snaps until this last year. He plays with a lot of energy. I mean, he's a fun guy to watch. They get a lot. I mean, the Packers had Nick Perry and Matthews. You replace him with Preston and Zadaria Smith. You're much younger.

You're much faster. And it's a test of faith in Mike Patton. I mean, you're counting on Mike Patton to also know how to use Adrian Amos. The safety they brought in, we'll mention from the Bears on a big. contract. I mean, it's an That's a good signing, though, I think. Extraordinary amount of money that they're suddenly spending. And now everyone out there was like, well, you know, they didn't maximize Aaron

Rogers' prime just because they didn't spend money in free agency. I always thought that's kind of a facile, oversimplistic reason of why the Packers had to Michigan. That's one thing, but, you know, it's one of many things that they could have done potentially better. We'll see if this just suddenly turns them into a Super Bowl. One point about that. And yes, they're making the defense and questionally better.

Everyone in this room likes Mike Patton and giving him more toys to play with could help the Packers be a better team because they haven't been for the last couple of years. But what about the idea of building around Aaron Rogers a little more? Because it hasn't happened yet. Maybe it's all about the draft and they're going to bank on nailing those picks. But I did not see a great supporting cast around Aaron Rogers last year. And so far it's not better. I mean, I think it's weird because the draft is very heavy and defensive line in past rushers.

but this free agent class is dominated by pass rushers too. And there's a bunch of teams that have, like, basically check that box and they don't need to necessarily use the draft for it. I like Mike Petten because he is bald and has better hair than dumb capers. I mean, Amos is getting $21 million over his first two seasons. Wait, he's bald and has better hair than... Yeah, I get it. Bald head is better than, like, crazy fake hair,

or whatever it was that Dom Papers had done. I never, you know, as a hair guy, I never really plugged in on Dom's hairline. What was going on with it? Just do a little work in your... We don't have to spend a lot of time on the show on it, but there was something very mysterious. Look like it might have been a little artificial

or not really artificial as much as you can just go buy it at the... The old Brian Erlocker? Well, it was like a low-level... More like an old wig store from seven-olds. Like a bad Lego hair almost. But no, I'm sure a very nice man. I don't mean to go down that road. As a toupee, we're reporting.

Okay. It's possible. We think so. I've looked at it up close. You never really know. It's, by the way, men of the world. And yes, I physically. some ways I'm not fortunate some ways I am

hair I am very fortunate go the West Chris Wesleying round Wes is a better looking man now than he was 10 years ago and it's because he just embraced it and made it work in a really nice way do not you know maybe if you're Earl Locker because we talk to Erlocker at the Super Bowl he's a large large man giant man and I thought it looked good up top

but when you're a millionaire you can get those type of treatments he looked better bald I think he looks better bald it's over for the hairpiece well yeah that's As a society, let's move on. I thought we did. Yeah, I think people have it. The rug, as they say. Not everyone.

Yeah, that's as stale as that Don Capers defense there. Ouch. Breaking news. Greg, on fire. So you weren't fired up, by the way, Dan, about the Billy Turner signing for $28 million. And there's been some wacky offensive line money being thrown out, including the Packers doing that on their guard. I mean.

Paying a lot for versatility. I missed the Billy Turner signing. I got to be honest with you. You weren't plugged in on that? Yeah, no. You're paying. They're paying a lot. All right.

Listen, we've got a surprise guest. We like to hit the audience with a treat every once in a while and sitting to my left right now. Charlie Casterly of NFL Network, former general manager. The man's got a ring. Two even? Four. Four rings.

Two times two. The host did not do his homework. Charlie is in the podcast studio for the first time. Charlie Casterly, welcome to the around the NFL podcast. Thank you. I'm honored to be here. You guys do a great job. and I'm glad I could share a few minutes with you in between shows here.

I know. You're a busy man right now. I would wear the four rings, just to help me, just to have it on each hand. They're awkward, okay? All right, Charlie. Yeah. So excited to have you here. And it's Charlie season right now.

I said it downstairs yesterday. You have a little office right next to where we are. And you've been in the news a lot, okay? You want to know how much you've been in the news, Charlie? No, I don't. But anyway, go ahead. Here's a headline from today's, our yesterday's New York Post.

Josh Rosen next on ex-NFL execs warpath. Hey, I'm just telling the truth. You can't handle the truth, okay? Don't take the truth. Well, let's know. Josh Rosen, the book on him in college, you know, needed to work harder. Okay, need to be more disciplined. Needed to communicate better with his players.

The book on Arizona, exactly the same thing. Hey, this guy has as much talent as anybody he's going to be in the last year's draft or this year's draft. Is he going to get it or is he not going to get it? we're going to find out. Is he Ryan Lee for what? So you've heard some, it's not just basing it on the college evaluation and what you heard in college.

You've talked to some people at the pro level who believe he needs to still mature in terms of his work habits. Absolutely. I said what he needs to do is wherever he goes, find out what time the janitor opens it up and get there with the janitor. You got to be the first one in the building, okay? Like you often are at NFL Network. That's true.

That's true. I'm meeting the night show. and they're still working. But anyway, and they're nice people, too. We talk sometimes. But the thing is this, he's got to connect with his teammates, the offensive line. Take him to dinner every week.

They'll love you a little bit more. They'll fight that extra minute for you. The other thing is in college, he'd go off the radar. You have the game plan, and he started forcing things. He started doing his own thing. He did that with the team last year, the Arizona Carls. Now, he had no help. We got that.

But those basics should be ingrained in him. So you've spent your entire career, or building up this network of sources, and you're passing along the information you get from them. Yeah. Do you ever wonder, in all these people you've known for years and years and years, is there ever a point where you think, are they using me to further their own agenda?

No. Let me say this. You know the ones that are going to do that, okay? And the ones, first of all, I never name any names. Right. All right. So when I do name names, it's in a different set. If I'm working, if I feel certain guys should be head coached,

is in the NFL or college. It has nothing to do with them giving me information and not giving me information. In fact, one guy said, he got mad at me, and we had a little talk. I said, well, you're not ready for that job. I said, I'm not going to go on television and say you're ready for a job you're not ready for us.

So, hey, you know, hey, we don't talk anymore, but that's his decision. That's the same that the Kyle Murray story was the big story at the Combine that you came out and said on NFL Network that he didn't have a great combine. Interview. interview it was not the interview was not exactly how if you're a GM you would want it to have gone

and you got you got criticized for that as well Charlie and it to me it was at least from outside the media this idea that if you say anything critical about these guys you have something out for them but I can tell you something talking to Charlie the man only has it out for the nationals for letting Bryce Harper get out the building we've seen we've worked with Charlie for years and you're grinding, you're on the phone all the time. There's no agenda for a Casserly in the spot. No, basically, I took multiple people that I've known for years that I trust and I've had a lot of conversations with.

They told me what went on in the room, which I can't repeat, but it was not very good. He did not have a good interview. Now, he did not have a good interview. That's 15 minutes. That doesn't mean he can't play in the league. There have been other quarterbacks that have one playoff games that had poor interviews, whether he was poorly prepared or that's just not his stage to be able to do things. That's all it was.

When I've gone on television here, I've said, hey, I like the guy. I said, the guy's a terrific prospect. If you put him in a shotgun offense and run spread concepts, there is a way to win with a 5-foot-10 quarterback. That can be done. So I've said that. I've said, versus Mahomes and him,

he's better than Mahomes in college on pocket presence. Mahomes would take it and run. This guy didn't take it to run. He'll look and then he'll run. All right. And that's a positive. I talk to a college coach that I trust, who knows him both. He'd take Murray ahead of him. I said, all in the air. People want to take things and go with them as they fit, okay? And when you've been in the public stage, which I've been for a long time, hey, you just let it roll off your back. You want that. I thought you had more time today on NFL Network to kind of unpack some of that stuff. But when you look at the Cardinals, because there was the owner that came out with such a strong statement saying, absolutely, it's Josh Rosen. He's our guy. Cliff Kingsbury arrives. The GM has had a bit of a rocky one or two years and something.

that building. What is your sense of the power structure and why the messaging changed so much? Is it Cliff Kingsbury's pack to lead here? Or is he sort of, or is the inside perception in the Cardinals that we're starting to get sold by Kyler Murray where we absolutely were saying not possible a month ago? I can't answer your question specific. I can say this. I talked to a coach who was interviewed by the Cardinals. Absolutely Rosen was their quarterback. He didn't like Rosen. He didn't get the job. I don't think he told him he didn't like him. But that was it. Rosen's the guy. See, all right? So now, obviously, we've listened to the messages from Rosen's the guy to, he's our quarterback for now, to we haven't made a decision, okay?

So it sounds like they should have been saying the first thing we haven't made a decision in the beginning instead of now. To me, if you hire Kingsbury, who we don't know what he is as a pro coach, we have no idea, all right? He's going to be creative. Well, we don't know what creative means, okay? Andy Reid's pretty creative. Matt Nagy's pretty creative. so he's going to be so give him his quarterback hey you want this guy go take him now rosen what do you do with rosen that's really the question okay uh because if you give him away

for a third Rosen may be a bust but rosen may wake up someday and allow his talent to surface through coaching slash work ethic and become a great quarterback he has the ability to be a quarterback he's got great skills um if you keep him and he beats out murray okay. Now, Mary says, you know, I got that baseball over here. I think he'll take a walk to baseball. Because he can do that. If Rosen doesn't beat him out, well, then you've got a hell of a quarterback in Murray. So it's not a simple answer. I would not give away Rosen for nothing. That's, I guess, where I would start.

Right. Hold on to him and see what you can get. When you're about to do that hit on up to the minute, Charlie, are you kind of thinking in the back of your head, like, oh, yeah, ESPN producers. You better flush out your A block. tomorrow because Casserly is about to break some news. This bomb's going to drop all over the NFL. Are you getting fired up? No, I don't think of things. To be honest with you, I'm

a little naive. I didn't realize it would get that much publicity because of this. Hey, the guy had the interview, I don't know, Wednesday or something on Thursday. Let me say this. I've seen those interviews go out the next day. I was a little surprised that nobody put anything out, and I thought, and I didn't

ask about Carl. I asked about the four top quarterbacks. Give me all the four top quarterbacks, okay, from multiple teams. And his was the one that was over here. The others were all pretty much in the positive side without any real issues. So, hey, here's what it is. So anyway. What is a move that you've seen in the last two days that kind of jumps out to you as a

home run move for a team? Well, Minnesota stealing by Anthony Borrack, really. I hate to say that. So I've been, I don't if I've ever was in one like that, but, let me say this, you're going to strangle somebody when you lose one like that. Hey, you agreed to this deal. You know, Moseley, obviously, getting a 26-year-old or whatever he is in free agency, that's a pro baller.

That's what you're trying to get. That's what you're trying to get. So, you know, that one, I marked down some things. I did something with Taylor, Scotty, for her Instagram there, just plugging that for her. Oh, look at that. I love it. The Browns, we talked about them improving their pass rush. Olivia Vernon and Sheldon Riches

and you go with Miles Garrett now you can only double maybe two guys you can't double three so all of a sudden they got three pass rushes which is pretty good so that was one team in your past in the front office did you ever have an Anthony Barr type situation where you kind of

it was a handshake deal or an agreement in place and you kind of got whacked in the end because it feels like something that would stick with you stick to your ribs as a kid well you'd have some that are like college free agents or some things that are maybe below the radar and stuff like that

nothing as high profile as Anthony Barr. What do you think about the Jets in general? Like, you know, I know you have a past history with Mike McCagnan, their general manager. You work together. You know him. Like, what are you kind of looking at where he's at in his time with the Jets?

And then obviously a very aggressive off season so far, even though you know, Barr ended up going back, they have added a number of starters. Yeah, you know, when he went in there, and I think they did the right thing, they went for like a two-year plan to win right now without sacrificing the future as far as draft choices or cap room to establish some validity in the market, because it was really down at that point, and he almost pulled off the playoffs that first year.

Then getting darned was brilliant because he was aggressive, trading up early to get in a position, and fortunately he got darned. Otherwise, he would have gotten, you know, Mayfield maybe, okay? But they would have gotten a quarterback, so they've got that. They're being aggressive in free agency. The bar one really hurts him, I think, in losing him. Because if they got bar, that means on their first pick, they get a pass rush or they'd have two bookends. Which they've not had in a thousand years.

That's right. So that one hurt. We'll see how they rebound in this, but they're off to a good start. They've got to have a good draft. But, you know, he's hit on the high picks. You've got to do a better job in that middle round part. I'm nervous, Charlie. I'm nervous.

I wanted that center. Matt Paradis. He's going to Carolina. I'm a Jets fan, Charlie. They need to get, they need to do some more work. But I like to see them. Well, the bar thing hurts them because it took them out of the market in a critical time when they could have been negotiating for other players.

That's where it hurts them. That's a good point. One of my pet peeves, Charlie, is bringing in a new. Only one. Yes, this is my major pet peeve. Struggling franchises, you often see them bring in a new defensive coordinator, change the personnel, change the scheme. Then that defensive coordinator is out after two years.

You change your whole scheme. You traded away. So when I look at Anthony Barr and Greg Williams is notorious for this. He only lasts a couple years no matter where he goes, gets rid of everybody who was on the defense before, brings in his guys. Is this a necessary evil or is it something where maybe he should be adopting to the talent that's already there? You should take the talents that's already there and work with it. Now, here's the thing that it would bothers me with Greg Williams. He's a 4-3 guy.

This is 34-team. Now, he said he's got 37 defenses or something like that. The guy is creative. The players play hard for him. They'll buy into him. He's got more defenses than job offers. That's right. It's coming out of his ears.

The players will buy into him and they'll play hard for him. And I give him credit for that. But I'm not so sure I want to see him coach a 34 defense. He's a 4-3 guy. If you have got to go to the 4-3, go to the 4-3. That's what I wanted to hear. Sometimes the coach has to adjust to the players. Absolutely.

And here's the thing. When you take over a team, not every player is bad, all right? And when you take over an organization, not everybody in the organization is bad. So throwing everybody out, I've seen people do that. That's an ego thing. That's not the right way to do it. It feels like the Raiders have been doing that a little bit over the last year in terms of getting rid of players. One of the first conversation.

Here's this thing with Grudencey. He worked here one spring. And I said to him one day, I said, John, did you have a hundred-man roster when you coached? You love everybody. And then you fire him tomorrow. Okay? Greg's been saying that for 15 years. Now, here's one, I haven't said.

What was his response? He had none. He haven't spoken since. He's no longer on your list of sources. He was never a source. He was never a source. I want to see the guys that, Charlie, that were on the source list, that they fell out. Like, how long is this list?

Is it hundreds and hundreds of executives and agents and people throughout the league? Who's on the dead list? Let's dig into that. Hey, they're gone or not anymore. We don't exist anymore. If we asked something like that again, we might be on the devil. No, you're over on this list over here. So anyway, you're on the good list.

Okay, good. God, they've got to be on the right list with Charles. By the way, Charlie, as you're hearing right now, everyone, the listeners, straight shooter, the straightest shooter in the game, listen to what he has to say. And he's all over NFL network right now. All over it. It's Casselay season. We're going over to the boardroom next year, okay? Oh, my God.

I mean. We hit you on in between quarter. I know. And we really appreciate it because we know you're a busy man. Check out Charlie on NFL Network. Follow him on Twitter at Charlie Castle Casserly and that's L-E-Y. He mixes it up. Running them on Instagram. Runs a good Instagram. Charlie has a strong Instagram game and could be teaching Taylor Bashad and other people some lessons. Wow. Casserly on the gram. Get your national news there.

All right. Charlie, we appreciate you. Guys. All right. There we go. Charlie Casserly, back to the grind. Thank you, sir. Okay. Thanks. And off he goes, and we continue on. Love Charlie Castro. Teddy Bridgewater, he's sticking around, boys. Staying with the Saints, deciding it's better to stay as the understudy to a 40-year-old Drew Brees rather than perhaps go to the Dolphins, who, according to NFL networks, Jane Slater, had a bigger offer than what the Saints were willing to give him,

but still, he decided to stay with the team mark in New Orleans that's in a Super Bowl window. And I guess, Mark, and we've been talking about this for a long time, it didn't help Teddy that the timing was terrible when he finally got to free agent as a healthy quarterback. No, you know, Charlie mentioned what he thought were some of the more interesting decisions and free agent transactions. This was one to me because you don't often see a quarterback, you know, put off the idea of becoming a starter somewhere. It sounds like they still want to release Ryan Tannenhill.

You're stepping into a starting role under a new coach. And you go back to what may be career-wise, if Drew Brees has one more season, let's say, then you'd step in next season on a much, a team with a much stronger base, a stronger coaching staff from what we know today, and a better chance to step into a consistent spot. So I don't hate the decision for Teddy Bridgewater.

I just find it a bit unusual to step away from more money and a chance to start. I want to see the money. They're not, none of the money's out there. Well, how about the chance to start as a NFL quarterback? You don't think that matters at all? I'm guessing it doesn't, I don't,

I think he's getting a backup contract in either place. When they don't show you the money at first, it's because it's not a very good contract because no one's proud of it. The agent's not proud of it. They're not trying to use it for advertising. If I have to guess, I would guess he's getting paid to be a backup in New Orleans and he was going to get paid to be a backup,

but a little more in Miami. Maybe that's $5 million from the Saints, and it would have been six or seven from Miami. If it's anywhere close and you had nothing close to a guarantee or even a likelihood of starting in Miami, I mean, New Orleans is a no-brainer. It's a great decision, a calculated risk with foresight to stay with Sean Payton, to stay with the talent that they have on that offense, especially the offensive line. Can anyone name more than one Miami Dolphins offensive lineman right now? Yeah, it's like you're going to a troubled potentially organization.

You're a sacrificial lamb in Miami. The only thing I would say about Teddy Bridgewater is that you're definitely one of those quarterbacks that needs to put tape out there sooner than later. You're going to wait two more years of maybe taking 15 snaps over the next two years? Then what are you? He's 26 years old.

I mean, he's not a, he's not like he's an old guy. He fetched a third round pick. The Jets signed him to the bargain basement deal last year and then moved him, flipped him to the Saints for a third round pick. I guess I'm still surprised that his value remains depressed. It didn't help again that the market was small

but and I think that was the main thing. Yeah, I mean, it's just the guy that has had a star cross career both physically now he has a chance maybe to hit the market and be ready to go and again he decides and I agree with Wes ultimately not a bad decision because who knows how much longer

Drew Breeze is there. Or it could be a thing where Drew Breeze plays for three more years and this contract comes and goes and he hasn't done anything. Right, but here's, here's my thing. If any team wanted him to be a starting quarterback, he would be on that team, but no teams did. I mean, the dolphins did. But at a cheap rate. From everything we're hearing, he was going to get a chance to compete to start, possibly with two other people, and he was getting

a backup contract. That is not, that is not necessarily saying, hey, we want you to start. Like, hey, we're going to pay you even $15 million, $18 million. I think if he had that offer, he would have taken it. And that's fine. And now he's smart. Well, I don't want to belabor. but I guess the one thing for me is like we're talking about the mentality of an NFL quarterback. It's not just simply about money. You are also telling people I'd rather be a backup than compete for a starting job in the NFL. I don't care what team it is. But it does not. But quarterbacks without options typically wind up going to bad teams. But a lot of people are miserable in miserable situations. And Miami certainly looks like a

miserable situation. This isn't like a middle manager at IBM. This is a People find their happiness in happy situations. Well, all right, that's fun. It sounds like they're interested in Tyraud Taylor. I just have the feeling that they want to draft someone that it was at best going to be a situation like the Jets where very well they might end up drafting a guy in the top five. They might move up to take one.

And you're battling against another veteran. And the risk of that happening I think would be too much to leave New Orleans for. Let's move on. Honey Badger has a new home. He's on his third team now because he agrees to a three-year-fourty-two million dollar contract with the kansas city chiefs before uh west uh free agency window opened uh he tweeted out that money's great but uh rings are better well he just went to a team that a lot of people installs the a fc favorite good fit i think it's a very good fit for a secondary that

for parts of the season last year was i thought the worst in the NFL and i don't think they can count on Eric Barry to ever be close to what Eric Barry was in the past. And now he looks like he might be a candidate for release. Tyron Matthew was out of a position on a few plays last year with some miscommunication. But I thought physically he was back to almost where he was before the second of his ACL injuries. He's one of the big winners in free agency. I think Houston was, it sounds like they were in on Matthew to the very end that that his price was, you know, $10, 11 million from Houston. and he didn't, you know, per season, didn't take it right away.

Once the Landon Collins contract dropped, Ian Rappaport believes the price for Matthew went up, and then these two teams are bidding against each other. And Houston was pretty disappointed that they ended up losing him. He gets 14 a year, just three years after he tears his ACL for a second time. Like, he is a great example of a prove-it contract working out absolutely perfect for him. I don't think the Texans necessarily came that close to the final offer. They talked about it being like 9.

$9.5 to $10 million per year. As a backup offer and a fallback, the Texans go and get to Sean Gibson, who was let go by the Jaguars, but he will, I guess, helped to alleviate some of the sting of losing Honey Badger. But yes, it's, it's,

would it not be surprised if the Texans are very disappointed right now how this all turned down. They also signed Bradley Robey at cornerback. Yeah, I mean, they've, they've essentially got a brand new secondary. So Gibson, it's like everyone who needs a safety can get one this offseason.

Gibson is a cheap enough. There's more starters available at safety than any other position. Roby to me was a great signing, very similar to the Tyron Matthew signing from a year ago where you're getting a guy kind of at his value low. But if you want to keep him, it's tricky. Like the Matthew thing worked out for the Texans and that you got him for a year. But ultimately they weren't aggressive enough and they only got that one year out of them. You could see that happening with Roby too because he's that kind of talent.

Let's move on to the Broncos. They're making moves. Joanne James and Kareem Jackson, both join the fray. Greg, John Elway, spending some money. Your thoughts? I mean, I kept seeing Joanne James is now the highest paid right tackle in the league, you know, by a good amount, which is something we talked about a couple weeks ago on this podcast, that that's going to happen because I think people see him and they think he's a slightly above average starter and he's available.

He might not be the highest paid right tackle because I have a feeling Trent Brown's going to play right tackle for the Raiders. it sounds like he'll be paid even more. But that is just a ton of money at a position. They've spent tons and tons and tons of money on their offensive line, and none of it has worked. So I don't know. I don't know why I have faith that it's going to work now. They have something for him because there were trade rumors bubbling up

a year ago about the Broncos chasing after James. Well, he had one of the assistants there was with him in Miami. The assistant offensive line coach was with him in Miami for three years and I guess was a big fan. They say one of the rules for being a general man. at free agency time is don't go sign a player just because he had the best game of the year against you. Kareem Jackson against the Broncos last year

had the best game I saw by any cornerback in the league and one of the best tackling and hitting games I've ever seen by a cornerback. You've been talking up that game. Watch it on game pass. It is one of the best cornerback games I've ever seen. He just lays the wood the entire game on Broncos' receivers, tight ends, what have you?

The Raiders. They're kind of a weird. I know we don't want to belabor, but they remind me of the Raiders where they just keep like changing their plan every year. You trade Akib Talib in theory because he costs too much money and then you sign Cream Jackson a year later

for as much or more money. The Raiders keep on spending money. The Rams decided they didn't want to pay Lamarcus Joyner anymore. They let him test the market. And Oakland swoops in and gives the safety a four-year $42 million deal. We like this one. Well, I think it adds.

speed to a secondary that desperately needed it after playing guys like Reggie Nelson and Leon Hall and Carl Joseph at safety the last few years. I mean, Leon Hall and Reggie Nelson, both in their mid-30s. So getting the young legs back there, I think that's a good sign. They are one of the teams that is not gone after major pass rushing help, and they're sitting in the draft where they can do that. But what did they have 13 sacks last year or something? Like an astonishing league low that was like vastly behind team number 31. I mean, how about Lamarcus Joyner? I mean, And the only real memorable moment, or at least one of the only ones from Hard Knocks, is when he walked in and said he'd tell Jeff Fisher, he'd go work at Walmart if he didn't get put in a better position.

You remember that? He was like, I'll work at Walmart. It's fine. Like, he was ready to retire. Now here he is. I think he was lying. He doesn't need to worry. He'd go buy a Walmart right now.

That's the shortest safety tandem maybe in NFL history. I mean, he's 5-8 and Carl Joseph's, what, 5-9, 5-8, 5-9. Just throw some jump balls up there on the old Raiders. Hey, Mark, the Colts had more money than anyone, but they're not spending a lot. Maybe that's Chris Ballard. That's his move. He doesn't want to invest heavily in free agency, and that's fine. We won't judge him.

He did make a move, though, on Tuesday, though, agreeing to terms with Devin Funches, formerly of the Panthers, a one-year deal, max value of $13 million. I don't know. What do you think about this one? This one kind of threw me a little bit. I don't think it solves all their issues. But for me, the one thing about... I'm seeing it out there that it does solve all their issues. Well, then they're great.

But Chris Ballard said it over and over at the Combine. And it was in regards to Levion Bell or Antonio Brennan. It's like, we're not going to chase after people that don't fit what we're doing here. And then it sort of says, like, well, obviously the cults have all this cap money. So they're going to surprise us and go make all these signings, and they've done none of that. So maybe they'll be one of the smarter teams where now that all the headlines, die down and people chill out. They start adding Chris Ballard-type pieces that are a much different financial

picture, technically, for what it's worth. So they might end up being very active. But you're right. They're going to be that team that kind of waits for bargains. I don't know if they're a punch. If I were a Colts fan, I would like that. $10 million is not a bargain, but it's a one-year contract. It's a $10 million-based salary.

It gives them some physicality. And I kind of trust their coaching staff to figure it out. Well, this is all about timing. He had a horrible year last year, did not catch. the ball well did not win at the catch point well for a guy who's 6-4-230 but I thought he played really well the year before 2017 was a good year so if he had made free agency the year before I think he would have cashed in there was a time when Ron Rivera called him other coaches too that he was the most promising player on the entire panthers offense it just feels like a long time

ago the bills made a play for Antonio Brown kicked the tires maybe a deal on what's got done maybe it didn't but they were undaunted either way and they've been very busy. The Buffalo Bills signed slot receiver Cole Beasley. They also got John Brown. They got Smoky to add to the weapons around Josh Allen, the second year quarterback. And then they go out and get Mitch Morris, who is one of the top centers on the market. Tyler Croft also added to the mix.

That's a lot. And don't forget, Greg. Yeah, boy. Frank Gore. Oh, so Ty and Secky. Tie and Secky. One of the best swing tackles in the NFL. Let's get to Gore in a second.

it. But let's start. We had the receivers in there, too, right? I mean, this is John Brown and Colby. Yep. John, John and Colby? They have been, this is a team that is making a move. They're trying to get respectable. And just like down in the Meadowlands, they're trying to build around Darnold. Allen deserves a shot, too, to have some weapons around him, Mark, and now they do. I mean, the bills needed everything on office, like everything. And so you have to be aggressive. This is one team that, yeah, you can say, like, let's not, you know, go crazy in free agency and build the way the Patriots do, but you almost have to wonder

who would still be there a year from now if that offense didn't progress. And you've got a second year quarterback. I like the John Brown signing. Cole Beasley to me, these guys made some cash here, but they needed everything. They're not in a great position

to wait for the draft at all. They needed like NFL receivers. And so John Brown's a risk, but if anyone can go run down a... Well, you still think he's a risk? I mean, just because of his health and his injuries, yeah, absolutely. I mean, he's been in the NFL, what, five, six years he's been productive, two of them.

So I think he's a risk, but it's a risk worth taking. I mean, if anyone can, you know, track down a 97-yard throw by Josh Allen. It's Johnny Brown. I like the idea of that combination. And he did enough, essentially the way it worked out for Brown. He had the sickle cell issue in Arizona and that, and he couldn't stay in the field, wasn't effective. And then after eight weeks or so, he was having a Pro Bowl-type season with Joe Flacco last year. and that all wiped away once Lamar Jackson took over.

But I guess the bills, and I imagine other teams saw enough. All right, so he stayed healthy all year. And he showed with a quarterback that could sling it. He could put up numbers. We're sold. I like the bill signing there. Nothing they do really makes offseason news. So last year when their GM, Billy, not Brandon Bean, said, look, we got to take a one-year

penalty on the cap. We got to mortgage our future. We're not going to be that competitive this year. We're rebuilding. Yeah. They're out of cap jail now. They're making a better team. I kind of like what the bills are doing.

And I don't think these are major name splashes. Cole Beasley isn't going to move units. But he's really friendly for the quarterback. Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. But it does, and I saw there was an article, I think, on SI today, talking about where players like to go. I sold that, too. It is money.

And these guys are all coming to Buffalo because Buffalo is paying them. Yeah, Tyler Croft is going wherever you're paying him, whatever they paid him, which was a lot, $18 million. That was one of the more surprising ones. I mean, Mitch Morse right now is, I think, just about the highest paid center in the league for a very average, you know, center. So, like, that's generally not how you get ahead long term, and a lot of those type of offensive line contracts have not necessarily worked out unless you have the system and the players around them to make. Well, what's also expensive is Josh Allen getting taken out in week four right up the middle of the line because you have no center the way they were last year. And, Greg, yes, let's touch on the inconvenient career finale.

Well, it might not, we've thought that it would be a finale for the last couple years, and he keeps going, and he needs about 600 more yards, I think, to go up to number three is it all time? So that's going to be tough as Lashad McCoy's backup. I hate him being in Buffalo because Miami was such a perfect last spot. You want him to be with a contender, but he's still playing pretty well. It says a lot. He's a 34-year-old running back who's still getting signed before a free agency even starts. But how about he's older than 34?

There's something to that, 35. He's almost 36. Flipside, Greg. And I would never judge a man for getting an offer and jumping at it. But I will question it a little bit, the idea of jumping at the first offer he got, as opposed to maybe finding a place that could use him and he'd still get some carries, but also maybe not end the season with a rebuilding and his career with a rebuilding team. I mean, he's at the same age in his whole career.

That's not true, actually. But Drew Rosenrusses is now. I think he had a sense of the market. He's at the stage of his career. You have to take the offer that you get. There's no guarantee that he was going to get multiple offers. I'm sure he, from the sound of it, he wanted to go back to the 49ers. That wasn't happening.

And you take what you can get. Since we brought up. Another guy from the U. LaShaun, I mean, they have three guys over 30 in their backfield. Ivory, McCoy, and. Is Ivory still going to be there? Probably they cut Chris Ivory. Since we brought up Mitch Morris, let's talk about the other big center on the market.

The Panthers agreed to turns with Matt Paradis, formerly of the Denver Broncos, was a three-year $27 million pack. This one is the Jets fan stings a little bit because I really wanted New York to grab Paradis and Carolina made the move, though. They got it done. So you add a very steady player to the Senate of Illinois. He's coming off a serious leg injury

that ended his 2018 season prematurely, but he's said to be ready to play by June. So that's a nice pickup by the Panthers. They had really seen an exit of players over the past two months on that roster. It's nice to see them add one for once and they had some work to do on this offensive line. They still have work

to do at left tackle, so maybe they'll address that in the draft. It was weird how dismissive John Elway was about Matt Paradis when asked. It's like the one good offensive line that they've found over the last few years and he just seemed totally uninterested and resigning him. Maybe it's the broken leg. Mark Brown's news.

Sheldon Richardson, an old New York Jed, who's bounced around looking for another multi-year contract. Well, he got it, a three-year $36 million deal with the Browns. The Browns who also got Olivier Vernon in the building via trade last week. Of course, Miles Garrett on that line. We touched on it with Charlie. You like this one? I do.

I mean, I don't think they're spending completely unwisely in a free agency, and you have Vernon, Garrett, Sheldon Richardson, and Larry Ogon Joby, who you put them along with Ginnart Avery. That's a pass rush. And they still struggled last year. I think there were 21st or 22nd in sacks. There was a lot of pressure. There were moments where I thought Cleveland could have ended a couple close games

that they were in that they lost because they couldn't quite get to the quarterback. This will help with that. I think that Richardson is an upgrade over Trevin Coley. And I know he's been, he's bounced around. I guess we've heard enough about him to know that there's stuff going on behind the scenes at times. but I don't have a problem with this signing for Cleveland. It kind of surprised me just because it's hard to know who's on anyone's radar, but it's not someone I ever would have imagined in a Browns uniform.

I guess if you get two good years out of them, it's a win. There aren't many better defensive lines in the NFL, on paper at least. I mean, we have to see how the new defensive coordinator uses Richardson and Vernon, but Larry Ogunjobie had a really good year. Yeah, you're right. That's one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. Richardson had been on these one-year deals because they've had a team-stop. That was how to keep motivated.

He started off like an All-Pro definitely faded pretty hard by the end of the year. So there's a concern. How many snaps do you use them? But I think it's fine. Just use them 400-500 snaps. Well, and they can use the draft. They can go with their first. They have 10 picks again.

And you don't have to reach for someone or a certain position. It's a two-year deal. It's 21 guaranteed in the first two-year deal. I mean, it is a three-year deal. But like all these deals, it's really a two-year deal that they're making. And Shelter Richardson often does not stick around for more than one. So we'll see how it doubled. What ended is, Jeff.

career was off the field issues and being a knucklehead, and we haven't really heard anything in the last couple of years. So maybe he has straightened himself out, in which case that feels like a great signing. The Titans make a move to fortify their interior line. Roger Saffold leaves the Rams and agrees the terms with the Titans on a four-year $44 million deal and includes $22.5 million guaranteed. Where did he fall, Greg? He was pretty high in the top one of the top ranked alignment I assume I love what the Titans are doing Adam Humphreys in the slot Roger Saffold two positions of need and that offensive line has been too inconsistent Roger Saffold I you know that Rams offensive line especially early in the year really paved

some huge holds for Todd Gurley I love this fit compared to the other guard signings he seems like a relative bargain like guys who seem much worse than him like Billy Turner or whatever getting almost as much, you know, guaranteed money or Mitch Moore. You know, Saffold seems like a very safe bet. Billy Turner's contract has like retired linemen doing exercises in the room. See if they can get ready to go back. Let's move on. Hey, Terrell Suggs leaves the Ravens after a million years.

Thomas Davis also moving west. 14 years with the Panthers. He signs a two-year, $20.5 million deal with the Los Angeles Chargers. What's left in the tank of Thomas Davis, Wes, at this point in his career? I think he lost a step last year, but was still playing. I mean, he wasn't a guy you had to hide. It's just that he and Keekly weren't what they were five years ago. But it does make me wonder how different the Chargers defense will be this year,

whereas last year, out of necessity, they played so much dime defense, and they played a lot of safeties at linebacker. It looks like they're going more traditional this year. I want to see, like, $20 million for this is the most. surprising contract we've seen i want to see the deal it feels like it's almost phony like how could thomas davis be making 10 million dollars a year at this stage i am i i kind of don't believe it i suspect it's more like a one year six or seven million dollar con and even that's a lot for a linebacker of that age i mean the davis family hopes it's not totally phony right there's also talk that they're

they're going after earl thomas i mean he's like an NFL man of the year you know he's about as like well respected a guy as there is in the NFL And I think that that certainly has some premium. They needed linebacker help. I'm surprised. All right. Mark, your boy, Mark Ingram. My dog, Mark with a C.

He's been replaced in New Orleans. Latavius Murray agrees to a four-year $14.4 million deal with the Saints. So he will join Alvin Kamara. And yeah, boy, Mark Ingram is moving on. Take us through how you feel personally first. It's weird because both of those guys were on that U.S.O trip I went to, and I remember we were in Germany towards the end of the trip. And you knew that Ingram was in a contract year,

and Latavius Murray likely was in his final year with the Vikings. And everyone was eating dinner and kind of talking about how cool it would be if they were a duo backfield somewhere else. This is not how I thought Mark Ingram would have had this play out necessarily, where they became very good friends during it. They were super tight, and one just takes the other's job. Inside story here. Interesting scene.

At least three Saints teammates on Twitter begging Mark Ingram to come back and saying how much he means to that locker room, how much he means to their chemistry. He was certainly a well-liked guy in New Orleans. If you're with him, a guy, honestly, he is, even with Alvin Kamar, when I wanted to make initially,

oh, is there some sort of rivalry here? And then they just did all their interviews together. Like, he is loved by those guys and, like, you want to keep him around. He's been there his entire career. It sounded like he got offered something similar and thought and probably can do a little better. And so it came down to money. And Murray's really well liked and probably one of the more thoughtful.

You know, he kind of has a rep. He always wins like the media good guy award. He's, you know, just known as a thoughtful guy. So it seems like, nice replacement if you're going to replace it. All right. It's about a quarter after five Eastern time on a Tuesday as of right now in this moment of recording. This is the big names who are still out there. Levion Bell.

Earl Thomas Justin Houston KJ Wright and Domican Sue haven't heard much about him some quiet markets Ziggy Ansah our old friend La Cid's favorite player

remember she banked on him leading the league in sacks once cost her a sandwich yeah she needed two yeah I think he had two that year she's still super pissed about that she told me Tevin Coleman feels like that's he you know they're just waiting for the Levi-on-Bel

signing so those are some Big names still out there. So while there's been a ton of work and there'll be a ton more signings to come, some big fish still out there in the sea. I mean, Levyon Bell's dropping his new album at midnight tonight as free agent, in theory, the day that free agency starts.

And that's next level. Life's a gamble. You know, check it out, really. Or don't. You don't have to. Or don't. But the cover is him rolling some dice. It's got four aces.

It's like if he can somehow sync up this album, release, and that's why he's waiting to sign on Wednesday, and it's all connected in some way. I just, I love it. If you told me, I like how silly. It is only slightly tedious. As a Jetsman, if you told me I had to listen to the entire Levy on Bell album before he went to the Jets, I don't know if he's

on the Jets. I think Tavon Coltons are my running back in a couple of months. Should we put a sandwich on Earl Thomas Landing spot? You want to do that? Let's do it. All right. I'll just go with the field, which would be the cow, not the field. I will go with the favorite. I wish I could.

Can I take the field? I'm going to go Niners because I think the Cowboys might have already found a way to do this. Although maybe this whole safety market's crazy. It sure is. This one is completely out of left field and I'll probably be way off. The Bears are shedding salaries for something. They're clearing some room for something and they lost their safety Adrian Amos. No, that's not going to happen.

They have been. I'm going off that. There are a lot of people. while ago linking them to Levy on Bell 2. Well, they also had one of the weirdest since they came up. We haven't had a chance to say it. Signings in Free Agency, which was Mike Davis for two years, six million. I guess they're going to trade or cut Jordan Howard.

But I was really surprised Mike Davis got, you know, like first day free agent money. They signed Buster Screen. I'm going the Chargers. How about Gus Bradley gets his old guy back? All right. I'm also going Chargers. All right. So we got Cowboys Chargers.

49ers. 49ers. Sanguage on the line. One other name that's been quiet, the market, West, Jared Cook. It has been. I don't heard anything about him. A guy you think would have a bigger market, and perhaps it's all being done cloak and dagger,

but usually you hear bz. I agree. He's dropping an album, too, and waiting just until a couple hours from now to announce. It's like a Jimmy Buffett covers album. Very strange release, but he's hoping to move some units. All right. Nice work, guys.

Tuesday show in the books. Tomorrow Wednesday. Another pod. That is when the 2019 league year begins. So a lot of this stuff becomes official. You know, maybe some other snakes will walk out on handshake deals before that happens. But 4 p.m. Eastern is when all this stuff gets set in stone. And I assume the next time you hear from us, we'll be able to talk about Levi-on-Bell and where he is.

Free agency opens at 4 p.m. Eastern and closes at 5 p.m. Eastern. And we are on a beach by Friday. All right. That's it. Stan Hansa signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman, the old boss. Kemp Brown behind the glass and thank you to Charlie Cassidy. Squeezing on the same, say. He just love that guy.

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