NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bears Hire Ben Johnson, Coaching News and a Surprise with Colleen Wolfe and Jourdan Rodrigue

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Colleen Wolfe and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic to react to Ben Johnson getting the Bears HC job (05:50), the Jets coaching search (14:30) Kevin O'Connell getting a contract extension with the Vikings (25:25) and more coaching news from around the NFL. Plus, the crew gives you their anger inducing takes including ones about the Eagles pass offense (42:49) and the coaching carousel (49:40), and an NFL Daily surprise (33:06). Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If we keep getting cards, at least Colleen Wolf does. They keep pouring in. I'm Greg Rosenthal on the Chris West. wrestling podcast studio. And we're back here. See you next Tuesday. Jordan Roderig of The Athletic and Colleen Wolf. Hey, oh. Feels good. You know, last Tuesday was fun, but it was, you know, I missed you guys. You were, you were in Snowy Philadelphia. You were watching your Eagles. What was your weekends like? It was fun. I loved Philadelphia, by the way. Let's talk about it. What did you love specifically about Philly? So I loved how you walk up to the

link and you walk through the tailgate and honestly everybody was really nice i was wearing a dark green jacket but still everyone was really really nice it smelled amazing the weather was terrible but everybody was in such a good mood everybody was drinking our uber driver was like ripping off advanced statistics on the way over like it just and she knew exactly the way to go shout out to evette like it is just so and then when you sit when you're in there and it was a snow game which was so I love it. And they're all in their best, like, cold weather gear. And they're throwing snowballs in the air, not down at the field when their own team scores, right?

And, and, like, they're throwing all this snow in the air and this, like, whipping winds and everybody is just, like, trooping through it. And, like, I love that Matthew Stafford made them silent for a minute because the crowd lives and dies with its team. Even those moments were just so fun. And I got an Ishka Bibbles cheese steak. I love that for you. It was incredible, traveled really well because I ordered it in because I was on the show with Greg later that night. And some cheese fries, whiz. Of course.

I have had this exact order before. Yes, and tried not to fall asleep for the next two hours. That's difficult. I loved it. I thought it was great. It's such a great sports town. It's a great football town. Unlike rookie outside linebacker, Jared First, I love Eagles fans.

Listen up, everybody. Jordan knows exactly what she's talking about. I love me some Philly on a playoff weekend, too. The Eagles Super Bowl run happened to coincide with the year that they were sending me to games. So I was there for the NFC championship. I was there for the Falcons Divisional Round win. And yeah, there is something that they were greasing all the poles. So remember that was the whole thing?

It was great. So a car, a truck had broken down outside of the stadium. And Yvette, the Uber driver, she was like, oh, they are going to have to move that at least three hours before kickoff. Otherwise, that thing's going to be on fire. And I was like, oh. Sounds good. I'm ready. So casually.

Yeah, yeah. It just was great. I was like, all right, note to self. And an underrated city in general. Emeka and I who love a good sandwich, love a good meal. We once went down on the Amtrak from New York to Philadelphia just to eat as many sandwiches as we could in a weekend and catch a couple of baseball games. Philadelphia really is an underrated city to just visit. So I recommend.

Are you guys just doing this? I don't know why. I don't know why. I feel like because I've missed some time. in here. Like, I feel like you guys are buttering me up somehow that this is not real. You're like the significant other that doesn't give us any attention. So we're just even nicer to you. To get more real. Speaking of which. What? I'm just kidding. I was, I was Tim. I did not know where you were going with that. But yes, Tim Wolfe, we love a good Colleen brother. Yes. Yes. How are you

feeling, though? Since we're not going to be previewing the show, that's going to be tomorrow. We have Patrick Claibon in the studio. We have some special guests. We have some special guests. for that one. How are you just feeling about the Eagles journey and where they are going into this game? I mean, I don't love that they're playing the commanders because the commanders are just like so oddly frisky right now and playing with

house money type of deal. And it just feels, I don't know. I don't know why I feel like... Would you rather be going to Detroit though as an Eagles fan? Would you rather they go anywhere? I don't want to play anyone in tax. Glad you're not on the team. But it just feels like the worst case scenario would be for the Eagles to lose to the commanders in Philadelphia at home in the NFC championship game.

Are you kidding me for a chance to go to the Super Bowl? And it's Jaden Daniels, a rookie going to the Super Bowl. I can't have that happen in my life. That is true. You sort of give up being the underdog. Not that they would have been by point spread in Detroit, but it's the number one seed. It would have just been a coin flip type of game. And now you're like a heavy favorite.

Chris Long talked about it. He's killing it at the green line. a light podcast where it's an amazing atmosphere. It's a huge advantage. But it's like any great home field in the playoffs. If you fall down a little bit and they get a little tight in the moment, it almost flips to the point where you can really feel it. Hopefully they can stand up to that.

I think they can. We have other stuff to talk about this today. We're going to go through some news. We got some big news. Colleen's dog. That was something we're going to hit towards the end of the show. We also are introducing a new quick segment. um that's going to be called i choose violence you know you know like you see a tweet and it's like

he woke up i don't know if we need a sound effect we didn't talk about that ahead of time because i don't want people to get too great it's you know you wake up and you have a thought that you don't mind that might annoy some people out there you you wake up and and you're choosing violence with your takes yeah can i tell you what i wrote in my notes about this segment i said i don't have anything violent i think i'm just really tired yeah well the take isn't violent it's just You're just saying something that maybe people don't like. Maybe not. We'll see.

We'll see how much we really incite violence. But first, let's do some news. And yeah, we have a new head coach. Ben Johnson is the Chicago Bears head coach. It came out on Monday pretty soon after the lions are out of the playoffs. The Lions lose their offensive coordinator to the Bears. Some reports out there that the Raiders were. in on him there's some buzz of like was it a money thing did did the bears just come over the top

um they did florio throughout that the buzz is that it's around 13 million dollars a year and there's the average is eight right there's separate quote unquote buzz that maybe they really did make a difference in terms of their offer versus the raiders and that the raiders had a chance that's not confirmed i'm just like thrown around the scuttle but Colleen what do you think about ben jonson staying in the division and now coaching up Caleb Williams. I do love that he's staying in the division. Like, that just feels, I know it's not on purpose to be petty, but I just like the petty nature of it,

even if it's an indirect kind of petty move. And I like that he's going to see the Lions now twice a year. I like that he's putting together this coaching staff, which we're going to talk about a little bit with potentially Dennis Allen. Talk about it. No order to it, however you want. I mean, listen, it's just, I'm happy that we, finally have at least like that head coach i want to like start checking off the list here um the jets

are interviewing like 75 000 people i just like i want answers and i don't like floating in like the in between of everything and speculating so i'm happy that that one at least is done i think the bears handled this a lot like they handled their quarterback search it was very clear that caleb williams was their guy very early on so too with this it was very clear and then like probably some agent floated reports that Ben Johnson was very interested in the bear's job and there was a mutual interest. And then also they made it very clear that he was the target that they were identifying. And yes, they went through the process and they interviewed a lot of candidates as well. But they were going after Ben Johnson and similar to how they were going after Caleb Williams,

not bringing Jaden Daniels in for a 30 visit, going to Caleb Williams Pro Day, bringing the entire brass out there. They were courting Ben Johnson less publicly because you can't really do that with the coach. who's currently playing and in the playoffs as you have your search. But they were, he was there, he was considered to be one of the top guys, one of two perhaps, in this coaching cycle. And they wanted to go get their guy. To your point, Colleen, I do love that that's in the division. You are going to have to pay him also based on what happened last year

when he sort of deferred and declined to even entertain some of these jobs that were out there. You were going to have to pay him a lot anyway. He made that very clear. But also to be in the division. you were going to have to throw the bag at him and the Bears certainly reportedly did that. I am absolutely shocked at what Jordan and I were watching earlier,

Ben Johnson, without a hat on. I didn't even know he had hair. And he has a swoop. He's got a swoop. Yeah, let's actually listen and take a look at that video. It's Ben Johnson arriving at the Bears facility. Everyone get back and work.

Listen, thank you so much. My family and I, we are beyond excited. This is exactly where we wanted to be. It's exactly where we want to be. This is a, this is going to be a challenge. I'm all aware of that. I know what this division's about. And this is exactly where we want to be.

Oh, he's giving Dan Campbell a little bit there, and I like it. I like it. Dan Campbell, Kevin O'Connell, hi-like a mashup between the two. Don't you get that vibe from him? And we haven't. seen him a lot in public. I mean, he has press conferences. But in those press conferences, he does give off a little bit of his reputation vibe, which is he was from a math background and he's very serious and analytical. And if you've heard anything negative about Ben Johnson, it's,

it's sort of from himself that he likes to be by himself and just drawing up plays. And that's where he feels the happiest, which is some of the criticism he maybe got from others around the league, which was just like, is this a guy going to be ready to kind of lead a room? So it was fun to see him in that scenario. Although it's also, that was like a long video released by the Bears and I loved it, but it's halfway between awesome and like unintentionally funny. There is something funny about the whole building coming out and like welcoming their savior. And I don't know, something about it just seems what a weird industry. Which they've done. I think they've done every two to three years for a while now, you know. But I really, I hope the best for that franchise

that's been trying to find the right leader for a while that's been trying to get even on the same page, let alone in the same book with the front office and the quarterback and the coaching hire for years and just kind of have been off by a year or two every single time. I hope for them that this is the case. And I do think that even if he's not necessarily outwardly this very clear guy who very openly and obviously in every way that he presents connects with players or you see him and you think that guy gets his players. I think when you watch him call games,

Greg, we talked about this on the show last week. When he calls games, he notices these little details about his players that maximizes their talent that builds these bonds together. The Jameson Williams, Teddy Bridgewater,

trick play that he called, has history to it. And I won't re-litigate that. But like, it just was a very cool detail that empowers his teams. He is full of those, according to Jared Goff.

And he's been full of those moments which really helped bring Jared Goff out of the darkness a little bit as well. I'm sure Jared hates this. Yeah, big year coming up for Jared Goff. I am very curious to see where Dan Campbell goes for his offensive coordinator and just how it looks. Because, yeah, if you remember Ben Johnson took over the play calling during the 2021 season,

it was an immediately better offense. And so I always say with head coaches, you want them to bring something, something that you can define. And maybe it's like Dan Campbell who brings in a great staff and is obviously, a great leader, but maybe it's just schematic advantage. They were seven, third, and fifth in DVOA on offense

at the end of each of the last three seasons, so he did really well. But I'm just going to do it now. I'm choosing violence with my Bears take, which is that they're still going to be the worst team in the division more likely than not. Like going into next

season, I have to see a Bears plan work until I believe it. Is that what you thought going into this year that they were going to be bad? Yes. And I have thought that, admittedly, I'm like wearing my biases

like for five years straight. And I've been right five years straight. And every year, Bears fans who are the most optimistic and some of the loudest fans out there and knowledgeable and they love their team so much are convinced every offseason. I'm told like, no, this is the reason why.

And it was in the Fields era and even late in the Nagy era. now. And to me, it goes to the highest levels there. It goes with the structure of the GM and ownership and Kevin Warren as the CEO president who I have questions about. And so it's kind of like the jets for me that the bears are in that territory, that it's like there's just a lot to overcome. I feel like in the building that I will believe that the bears have like turned to corner when I see it because they're still in this division and those are three of the best coaches in the NFL. So like, he's still fourth to me, right? People bring up the example of

it can be done when they use the commanders as an example. But that's a very different situation. Yeah, ownership change. Because, well, thank you. I was just going to say that. Yeah. I'll just, I'll just leave. Sorry. I'll just go. That's fine. That's, that's everything. They got to bring in a shaman. They need to sage the place. They need to just do a full clean-out. It is a big change. Sorry, Jordan.

It's okay. I might choose violence, but it's fine. Please do. I mean, I was trying to hem, you know, kind of tiptoe around it a little bit. Everyone's doing great today. Because we're, you know, here. Back in the saddle. At NFL media, but I don't know.

Lyons might lose their DC too. Like I wanted, I wanted more for him. Yes, they might. Let's go to the Jets. the Jets have Aaron Glenn in the building as we're taping this according to our NFL media insider Ian Rappaport

the object today is to not let them leave the building it really sounds like that's so dumb it's so dumb I hate it so much block the door it's like I can't believe they let them leave the building can't believe it why'd they let him leave

just like lock the room yeah it's such a weird thing. It's a good visual. I just... Now, do they mean, like, I guess close the deal. That is, of course, what they mean. But I visualize it as like Hodor and Game of Throat, like, holding back. Even there, like,

you might be back at your hotel, but by the time they really, like, negotiate as your agent, really, they're working it out while you're at a different part of the building. I don't know how that I'll work. They're bringing in, like, crab legs for you and just like, oh, and now there's a dinner and a show that we'll have. You can't leave. Not yet. You never

know what could happen, but we went developing news on our website about this, and that got my radar up. I was like, we're going developing news on just that he's going for a second visit. And as the day has worn on here, I feel confident just talking about this and we'll see if we're wrong, as if Aaron Glenn is going to be the next head coach of the Jets. What do you think about this one? Much like the Bears. I have yet to see anything work. And similar to hiring a great coordinator to become a head coach in Ben Johnson. Aaron Glenn is a great coordinator.

He has all the qualities you would want in a head coach. But I have yet to see proof of concept actually work for the Jets who have taken these big swings in order to try to sage the organization from a football perspective, taking the big swing for the quarterback. And it still hasn't worked out. It is still rippled and crescendoed or decrescendoed into dysfunction. And I think that that is where I'm trying to actually see the steps. I'd like to see once the hire is in place, okay, what are you going to do to fix so many elements similar to the bears of this franchise that has just been in Congress for so many years?

They make these moves every year and it's, you can build a believable case based off of it and you can really talk yourself into why some of these things will work because on paper, a lot of times it seems like, yeah, okay, they've done everything that they needed to do and now here are all the ingredients, now make the dish. and then they just end up, like, completely burning it or just, like, messing it up somehow. I, I'm with you on that, but it's just, I don't know how they're going to turn things around without kind of cleaning everything. And I do not doubt one bit that Aaron Glenn will be a great head coach who will develop great talent, a lot on defense,

and then also hire people to develop talent on the other side of the ball. I believe that 100% that he has all the tools. But so did another coach who got fired midseason after a couple years when the people decided that it was his fault that this was moving backwards yet again.

And I don't want to see that happen to another really bright, promising leader and great defensive mind and great head coach who just continues to get put in these terrible situations. Yeah,

and I don't think this should be terrible. Lance Newmark is getting interviewed for a second time as a general manager. He is the assistant GM in Washington this year. But he was in Detroit and worked with Aaron Glenn for a long time in Detroit.

And it's believed that they will be a package deal. And I like that. The Jets have done the setup that the Bears are doing right now where there are different alignments. In the Bears case, it's a GM who is needing to keep his job. And then also like a president that came in halfway through the GM's job and is very front and center, and now it's a new coach.

And I don't love that. Here's a new GM and a new coach if they do, in fact, hire Lance Newmark that know each other well that are aligned. Supposedly, Aaron Glenn has a good staff in place. I don't know who that is. Like, it's very hush, hush right now, but he's been in a league a long time.

Yeah. I think it's really interesting if you're a Saints fan that the two hottest head coaches in this cycle and the Jets again get the hottest one of the best head coach candidates were both in the Saints building forever you know Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn

and they weren't even interested in in Ben Johnson's case in like taking that interview in Aaron Glenn's case it sounds like they were kind of using the Saints' leverage he had an interview set up for later this week a second interview with the Saints, but it doesn't seem like that's ever going to happen.

If he's not allowed to leave the building. Right, right. He can't let him leave. He can't physically go be there. You're not going anywhere. That's not a great sign. Like two guys that were there in your glory years. And Ben Johnson,

and I wish we had circled back to this, is apparently trying to recreate that staff by getting Dennis Allen as his defensive coordinator and possibly getting Darren Rizzy if he's available as his special teams coordinator. Which I love. I love that. So I would really love.

that as a full staff because it is similar to the models we see working and it won't be like that right away just to hedge a little bit. But it's a similar model as what we see Andy Reid do, where he hires a capable, quote unquote, head coach figure to completely manage the ecosystem of the defense. Matt LaFleur hiring Passaccia to completely manage the ecosystem of the special teams unit. I love that. When it works, it really, really works. And to what we talked about at the beginning where Ben Johnson likes to be the mathematician, kind of hold up with the quarterback and some of the offensive skill players and the lineman in his office designing things and figuring out different levers to pull and different cool things to do.

Well, if you have hires like that, if you have people who have proven capabilities of running one side of the building or one side of the football team, then that allows him to be a little bit more hands off in that regard. It's a collaborative effort less so either someone who has to be in every single meeting room, which stretches a lot of young head coaches really, really thin. They don't quite understand when they take the job, just how much is demanded of them time-wise. Yeah, it is worth pointing out Dennis Allen was a really good defensive coordinator for a long time with the Saints. And that sort of fell apart this year. Their defense kind of finally didn't look good. But before that,

he had been running pretty great defenses. So maybe he can have his like spags, you know, life as just as a coordinator. Yeah. I also want to say about the Bears thing, like, me having doubt about their organization, this is the hardest thing to predict in the NFL, like, what high-res are not work or not. It's impossible. This was the right move. Yeah. Like, it doesn't mean it wasn't the right move.

Finding an innovative head coach to pair with Caleb Williams, like, I'm really excited to see what he does. I just... I'm really excited to see what the Saints do. Yeah. Well, they have second interviews. It's interesting about Darren Rizzy, by the way, both Alvin Camara and Cameron Jordan.

put public support on Twitter on Tuesday behind Darren Rizzy. We call that the old Max Crosby. Yeah, we'll see. Who is lovely, by the way. We're on Game Day morning this week. Oh, my God. The size difference between you two standing next to each other. Incredible.

At one point, we took a picture and I was like, oh, I can't even go on my tiptoes because I'm already on my tiptoes and heels. Like, I can't, there's nowhere else to go from here. Yeah. The Saints, by the way, I guess while we're on, on the. Now, coaching interviews. Supposedly they're doing some second interviews. Mike Kafka and Anthony Weaver are both in the mix for second interviews there.

Liam Cohen getting at the first second interview in Jacksonville, which a lot of people think means he's the favorite, that they won't want to let him leave the building. So that's something to keep an eye. And then there's the Lions. Dan Campbell spoke this week about life maybe after these coordinators. and how he sees his team moving forward. Listen, all we can do is move forward. Man, you brush yourself off.

I've already gone through the loss of a family member feeling to anger yesterday to now I'm back on my feet ready to roll. And I've acknowledged, I can look in the mirror and say, you know what, you failed, man. What are you going to do about it? So that's where we're at. Move forward, man. Questions. Damn.

That's where we are. He moved through all of that quite quickly. I kind of like that, though. He went through it kind of like a fan does. It's anger, it's acceptance, and now... the stages of grief. He's ready to just crush everything in his path. I picture, so they're obviously practiced and sitting in his press conferences, but I picture being a reporter on the other side of it, you're ready for this big monologue, open kind of a thing. And he goes, all right, questions. And I mean, oh, shit. Okay. Ah. You know, get my recorder ready. Like my off season had already started kind of a thing. But I also, as a very highly caffeinated person myself,

I could kind of see some of that quintuple espresso coming through. But I, you know, burnout and crashing happened with these deep post seasons happen so easily and catches these guys when they least expect it. Dan Campbell, I think, is going to be one of those who outruns it a little bit. Yeah, I could see that. I hope so. I hope. I want them to

stay in the mix at the very top of the game and it's tough in that division for everyone. I think they will. The defensive injuries are not to be ignored. It was there like three of their best four players essentially on defense and I think they have enough on offense.

to, and they made it that far with all of those injuries. That's still saying something about the talent on that roster. Back on the Saints for a minute, I wouldn't be surprised if they looked back at Joe Brady. Yes. He was in their building kind of as a quality control, offensive assistant, intern type of role under Sean Payton. And he has connections that are still in that building.

If they decide they do want to go young, maybe not quite ready yet, but somebody who may be ready over the next couple of years, but get in earlier type of hire. and then start to rebuild what that offense looks like. And, you know, you've got Spencer Rattler to, you know, mold a little bit. Could be him. Could be Mike McCarthy.

I think McCarthy was possibly the backup option by, according to the reports. He was probably the backup option to Ben Johnson in Chicago. He was hopeful of getting that job. He might be in a similar spot in New Orleans where he either gets that job or it's a young guy. And speaking of young guys, we have some breaking news as we're taping the Vikings. and coach of the year candidate, Kevin O'Connell. I've agreed to terms on a multi-year extension, which is hilarious to me because pro football talk

and another like outlets were picking up the buzz on the, is Kevin O'Connell going to get traded again like on Tuesday morning? Like just out of nowhere, this started picking up and then later that day, here's the extensions. Like that's how the sausage gets made. It's a pressure being applied. And it's good to see. I was very interested to see Florio,

who seems pretty tied in with that organization, say that there was, he wrote, and he was careful in what he wrote, but he said there was legitimate tension. I'm using the word legitimate. He said there were tension. There was tension between O'Connell and the organization about the status

of his contract late in the season. But that all goes away when you sign a big fat deal, so good for them. Easy way to smooth things over. If I'm just thinking about what the optics of it looked like, there are a lot of other coaches

or some other coaches from that hiring class that got extended before he did without the record. So if I'm looking from that perspective and looking at the optics of it, I'm like, well, excuse me, what the heck is my organization? What is my ownership group doing right now? Where is this?

I've got all these wins stacked up. Right, what's the hold up here? And Ben Johnson just got $13 million. I'm making way less than him. I'm a deal. I'm half of the Ben, of the Kevin O'Connell, Dan Campbell, hybrid man.

coaching the bears. And when they hired Kevin O'Connell, like, no, at least most people on the outside had no idea if he would be good or not. I thought Lefleur was a weird hire because, like, his one year in Tennessee was pretty disappointing. He just needed to recover from Sean, that's all. Yeah, maybe

that was it. So good. That was his eat, pray, love year. Good for them. And it'll be interesting to see if Quesi, their GM gets a similar extension that just matches up with Kevin O'Connell. No word on that. Sometimes that doesn't get announced another

Ian Rappaport is reporting that they are currently working on the contract extension for Cueceidofo, Mensa and it's likely, quote, Ian, that both will be around for years to come. Good to hear. You were on the forefront

of the Lou Anirumo beat this off-season. Yeah, see, I remembered that. Yeah. Interviewed with Atlanta, but he's going to the Colts. Yes, which I just feel like because there was so much buzz around Lou Anorumo this hiring cycle and coming from the defense in Cincinnati who did not have a great year, I feel like that is sort of damning to Cincinnati because of the way that

they set up Lou this year. And I think that ever since Jesse Bates left, the whole defense kind of crumbled. Like he was sort of the jenga piece, as Dave Damesh would talk about. I feel like he was the jenga piece for that defense. And then it was just like they weren't able to to do the things that Lou likes to do. And that's why things just ended up the way in Cincinnati. But I don't think it's an indictment or a reflection of Lou as a coach. And I like the hire in Indy. All right.

We'll revisit this. And let's get him. She's back in on the Colts. I hear it. Oh, no. I hear it. Oh, that's a good call. I was going to say in six years when Lou's looking for a different job,

they'll give them six years there. But no, how about in a year or two when the Colts defense is coming off their title game appearance or Super Bowl winning thing and lose getting head coaching. I was early in. She's back. I did want to ask you this, Colleen, are you surprised that Ballard stayed? Like, that was one where I just, I thought that was

a given that he would be gone, but I guess not. I mean, I guess maybe the relationship that he has with Ursae must be really good for him to still be there, but I'm always surprised when it's not a full like GM head coach

everyone's out. Let's bring in a full new chapter for each team because that always feels like it's the right way. And I know we've talked about like there are examples like the Rams and like some other teams that, that do it differently. But I was surprised that they kept them. I love it. It's a good move. It feels like they needed a new voice. Gus Bradley had been there a long time before Shane Steichen. And I think it makes a lot of sense. Just some quickies before we take a break. Brian Schottenheimer, the offensive coordinator of the Cowboys, is interviewing for the head coaching job. some belief in Dallas.

He might be the favorite there. We mentioned Jeff Ulbrook is Rahim Morris's new coordinator in Atlanta. And John Stryker, back to the Patriots, not back to the Patriots, but back to Mike Rable. He is like his numbers guy, consigliary. Yeah, Mike Reese, ESPN.com, was reporting this over the weekend that he, John Stryker, who is doing a situational game management and analyst role for the Rams. and specifically for Sean McVeigh is going to be heading back to Mike Brable's staff.

McVey plucked him out of Tennessee when Vrable was not going to be doing a job this last year. And it's interesting because it's pretty much night and day, nicknamed Stretch. He had had such a stellar reputation across the league for finding little ways to win in margins and finding little advantages, little rules bending, little things with game management and situational analysis that's been such a huge talking point. around the league, little things with the clock and with managing officials and all of these different types of things that we don't often think about. But when they happen, we're like, that was so cool. How'd they think of that? That was all stretch. And everyone remembers the

punt play or the, excuse me, the clock management where Vrabel out Belichick, Belichick, you know, Stretch was on his staff at that time. And he completely changed the way that Sean McVeigh manages games. I mean, he's now going forward on fourth down most of the time when he should. he's doing really interesting things that he never would have even thought about before like fake throwing a challenge flag now this is not confirmed he would not confirm this to me

but he laughed hard enough to make me think this is what happened fake throwing a challenge flag even though you knew you couldn't challenge the play because there was forward progress on the play and you could not challenge it but the challenge which you knew you weren't going to lose

because the officials would give it back to him because you can't challenge on that play would give the defense time to reset and sub in different things like that that the Rams have quietly been doing all year because they knew they needed those advantages with a roster that was either young or less than in a lot of different ways. I think this is quietly a huge hire and it also does play into or a rehire in that regard. And it does quietly play into a lot more coaching staffs are

very under the radar hiring these guys who exist with the Ravens, you know, John Park with the Cowboys who was with the Colts for a long time. They definitely miss him. Guys who are on the field doing these things versus in an office somewhere down on the other side of the building, working with an analytics department. They're in the headset now. And I think that's really interesting. Yeah, it's a good hire. He's a rabble knows him well, so he's consigliaria.

And what is old is new again. I mean, that's Ernie Adams' role with the Patriots, which NFL films has done about 15 different, like no guy that didn't have an official title has been immortalized more than Ernie Adams, who essentially was Bill Belchick's game management analytics guy in the headset during games the whole time he was with the Patriots. So Rabel's got his guy. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back with the segment

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on the field, but can they outplay, outlast, and outthrow each other in the ultimate survival challenge? You leave everything you have with a guy beside you. We find a way to win the game no matter what. Let's go, baby. The stakes are high and the competition is fierce. But I thought we were done.

I definitely thought we were done. Rise to the top and who will be sad. This is brand new information. That's the problem. I ain't right back. Let's go. This is quarterback Island. Ooh, it is.

Here ye, hear ye as self-appointed mayor of quarterback island. Oh, no resident. Congratulations. Yeah. Am I allowed to even be there? I herefore call this surprise. emergency meeting of quarterback island to order. Our co-executive producer, Jordan Rodrig, said she had an item of business.

And it's like one of those things where the Congress all like leaves early for the holidays. And they're like, nope, we've got to vote on some bills on Christmas Eve. Everyone get back to the Capitol. Yeah, we've got to do the people's work here. I deem this topic and this matter at hand as crucial and necessary. business. Okay. I hereby use my one and only riptide card. We still have them. We still have them. Okay. To pull Sam Darnold off of quarterback. Oh my gosh. Well, remind everyone what a riptide card is. A riptide card is a one single use card for an entire NFL season and postseason that in which you can pull

without argument, one player off of quarterback island that you so choose. Now, unlike Greg's opinion on the matter, you cannot then instantly replace a player of your choosing. Well, let's be honest, we're all just playing fast and loose with the rules at this point of the season. Your honor. Some people. There are no rules. But I thereby would present to you all a nomination, which then we would vote upon. Okay. So to review, when we finished the season and we thought it was for the season. We even sent out a little graphic. The final class of QB Island,

2024 was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, and Gino Smith. And you believe the evidence since then has caused you to just pull that poor boy, Sam Darnold, off the island.

And it wasn't just the last game of the season. was that the struggles compounded into the postseason while another quarterback ascended. And so now that we have an empty space on quarterback island, I would like to argue back and present to you for nomination Matthew Stafford. First, I admit that he wasn't a fully worthy islander by the end of the season based on some of the lulls of his season overall

and especially the back third of it, which he admitted to me. We talked about this after the Vikings game about how he did not play his best football or even close to it through the back third of the season. Admitted to me. See what she's doing here?

Yes. Yeah. You know, I'm there. I cover the team. Yeah, that's good. Anyway, so yes. And so actually justifying not having him on.

But the postseason performance against the Vikings, after the chaos of the fires of that week and the relocated game, Stafford did not just play an efficient game. He made a couple of his signature like only Matthew Stafford would even try that throw,

let alone. complete it. And even then, I'd say, okay, good stuff. You'd still be fair, leaving the island as is, because only extreme circumstances might get us to revisit what was voted on and therefore solidified at the end of the season. And I think these are extreme circumstances. I was in Philadelphia watching and listening as he, with busted ribs, single-handedly sent a ripple of quiet dread into one of the toughest and most badass fan bases in football history and in the snow and icy wins made even those Eagles fans into believers as he put that defense totally on the ropes with those last two drives, the way he played in those moments that made everyone understand

that if the Rams were to win that game, they could legitimately win the Super Bowl. And his whole team came with him and he convinced the head coach, who at times has been the one who you've had to pull into the feeling and the quarterback who can actually do that to get Sean McVeigh to believe right along with you. That quarterback who can silence that Road Stadium and sling it in the elements and take control in that way, even though he can't move for crap, should get to spend his offseason in the warm comforts of quarterback Island, where other current members, Sam Darnold, Jared Goff, and Justin Herbert, well, not Darnold anymore, totally crumbled in the playoffs. Thank you for the time and for your consideration.

Wow. Listen, I'm not going to stick up for Sam Darnold. He burned me in a really big spot multiple times. And I am just very disappointed. Like, I am mad and disappointed in Sam Darnold. Oh, wow. That's right. On Game Day morning, you went hard on Sam Darnold. I was like, this is going to pay off. If it works, I'm going to look like a genius.

You did a whole social post. Flew up on my face. I actually gave you a gift of telling you how right you were about Sam Darnold on this show. Did you keep the receipt? You know, times, things change. And that's just what life is. It's unfortunate because, like, for a lottery. He really did help define the season, and yet this isn't the MVP vote.

Why do we have to be locked into the end of the regular season? We're making this up as we go along. And now when you look back at the season as a whole, I do think you will remember those two Matthew Stafford performances. When I rewatch that game in the snow, I was even more impressed on the All-22. That first drive, and it was indicative of the rest of the game. game included three tight window throws that just shouldn't have been completed that had to be absolutely perfect. It wasn't snowing at that point, to be fair. But just the tight window rate in that game was so much higher than any other team that played all weekend. Darius Slay said it

after the game, just how Stafford was sling it into like the smallest of windows. And he got it done and to do that and do it after the performance that he had with the, with the Rams having to evacuate and then leave the city and get the win. He is one of the defining features, and I am ready to vote yes on Sam Darnold. Well, you don't get a choice on. I use my riptie. You don't get a choice,

but the vacancy should go to Matthew Stafford is my argument. Yes. Oh, I meant to say Matthew Stafford. I think everyone is agreeing on that. I definitely thought that Matthew Stafford was going to lead the Rams to win at the end. Thank God Jalen Carter came in and stopped that. They had all the momentum in the world, though, and the Rams looked really, really good.

And it was just like in the snow. Yeah. It wasn't, it didn't feel like that was supposed to happen. And then all of a sudden, they had life. Thanks to Jake Elliott, missing those two extra points and, and the way that they just kind of caught fire and were able to just march right down the field.

Two things. One, the guy who was running the elevator to get us up and down into the boughs of the stadium where we were running to post-game press conferences and all of that kept referring to, kept saying the phrase, Missy Elliott almost cost us the game. Oh.

And I was like, it took me so long to actually click that's it was incredible i was like i love philadelphia eagles fans like that's amazing because he missed the two kicks and oh see it took me so long to actually understand and because i was like how was she here like i haven't been sleeping yeah and then and then and then the other thing was like that that jalen carter outside inside fake step to make it look like oh my god running a stunt and then actually coming up the middle had bollimmer in a blender And it just, it's fortunate that, you know, it's a rookie center for the Rams playing there. The stadium, like, I give all the compliments and I mean it to Philadelphia Eagles fans.

I love this, Jordan, you are doing great today. I mean, I love football. And that was so effing football. It rocked. Snow games? It was so sick. No games in Philly are the absolute best. I was so sad that I wasn't there.

It was so sick. And, but they, it almost felt like they were all holding their breath. Oh, yeah. That was, it was spooky and cool. And no, it wasn't snowing, snowing, but there was, like, ice and sleep coming out of this guy the entire second half, even in some of those tight window throw. Oh, yeah, no, I meant that first quarter drive was electric,

and he kept it going in that, that 10-play drive. There's, he might be the only guy on the planet that could have done that drive that way, getting 10 plays done 140. He was, he was absolutely incredible. So he had football lift in you? Sure feels like it. I know her. There you go.

So Matthew Stafford, you've made it. Congratulations. Thank you for that. And hopefully Steve Weish approves, you know, but we outvoted you anyways. We got a voting block of three. Yay. A yes for Matthew Stafford. And now QB Island is closed.

Now I won't be murdered in my sleep. For the season. Sorry, Sam. Let's do the segment. See, that was a nice little surprise. It was just something that you thought that basically, maybe you'll upset people, maybe not, but that you're going to choose violence

on this great Tuesday. Why don't you go, Colleen? Oh, okay, great. That did sound violent. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. Honestly, I choose violence,

first of all, against my landlord, who's deciding right now to rip up all of the bricks and concrete that's around the house. So jackhammers are nonstop all morning and afternoon. And that's fine.

That's something that I'm dealing with, though, personally. But I choose violence against the Eagles passing game is a problem argument. Oh, against the argument. I can't do the argument right now. I mean, yeah, I'm so sorry this problem is like such an issue that they are one game away from going to the Super Bowl. I'm so sorry that they didn't pass the ball in the snow and all of those conditions. I'm so sorry that they have Seguan Barkley and one of the best. offensive lines in the entire league how dare they run the ball how dare they do what's working for them like who cares how they're winning they're doing it that i don't understand why people are complaining and picking apart this team when they're going for the nfc championship this weekend like get out of here uh-uh how will they ever fix themselves oh no like i get it things would be a lot easier for the eagles if they were able to have a more consistent balanced offense

sure, like these wins would probably come in an easier fashion for them. But they're still winning. And if you have Sequin, you have this defense that's so good, that offensive line, that running game, just lean on it and see where it takes you. Cook. Cook, Colleen. It's so annoying. I hate it.

Also, rewatching that one again. First half, Jalen Hertz, that was like a B-plus Jalen Hertz game. He played well. He took a couple of sacks he shouldn't have, which he's just going to do at this point. but if Devante Smith doesn't get his head taken off and A.J. Brown doesn't drop a great go ball on a touchdown. They're up 20 to 7 at halftime and Jalen Hertz has about 170 yards and he made all the right decisions in terms of when to run,

take the five yards, when to slide. And he actually was hitting his checkdown more often than usual. He obviously has shortcomings as like a pocket passer. He is also obviously the worst quarterback playing on this weekend, which is an unfortunate. But the good thing is, it's a team sport. And he's playing at a level, I think, that can get them over the finish line and win the Super Bowl if they all play well around him. And he plays closer to his best version and that he's healthy, which maybe by the end of that game, he was not playing at his best version. But I really definitely got hurt in the third quarter.

I do give them, it also is like, we're talking about like a couple of different snaps late in that game that people are talking about. didn't think he was moving that bad, actually. He didn't play nearly as bad as I thought upon rewatching. And the offensive line had one of their worst games of the season. The offensive line's sneaky, not been amazing for a month. That's my like lukewarm take. Oh, they're terrible. No, they're really good.

Terrible too. But they're like, they're not getting the running game going consistently enough. Their success rate and they're down to down production hasn't been good. And they made a lot of mental errors. And they gave up a couple mistakes mentally for what the Rams were doing. in terms of their pass rush that they'd like won really up front. I said this to you before the show. I thought that was a B-plus Jalen Hertz game.

I thought it was a D. Kellynne Moore Hall game. Because when... Philadelphia loves you today. Loves Jordan Roder. I had a great time in your city. So I send me more cheese stinks, please. Everyone really rubbed off on you. I, in the walking in, I mean, you know, you never know.

What can happen walking into that stadium in the parking lot. No. No. So, you know, the deep drop calls, I hate it. I'm like, yeah, get him going in the checkdowns and the quick passing game. Don't even make it a checkdown. Give him a first two read outlet that's actually a short and a quick or a hot, like do those types of things that you can give to him. So he's not taking these deep drops and doing exactly what the Vikings ad nauseum did with Sam Darnold, these deep drops that play right into the hands of the strength of the Rams young pass rushers, even minus Braden Fisk. That's what he kept doing, including in the end zone. I did not like that. But that's not on Jalen Hertz. And when he was able to pick up gains and when he was able to get the ball down the field, whether taking the right moments to run before he got hurt or getting the ball to his playmakers, I thought he had a B plus game. I did not like the way Kellan Moore called that game at all. I agree. But again, I guess it was rewatching just and you can do this a lot of games, but I think it was more exaggerated with this one was they were that

AJ Brown like just three specific plays AJ Brown dropping a pass he catches almost every time the Mackay Beckton illegal man downfield which is a mental error and the Lane Johnson false start

at the goal line if you get even two of those three you're scoring 40 points I could not believe they they made mistakes but offensively they move the ball more than consistently enough and the Rams were up for the challenge,

but also, like, if they don't make those mistakes, they're putting up 40 and no one's talking about jail. All right, your choice to choose violence. Not really violent, but I do choose violence on behalf of punters everywhere. Ooh. We've had some really good punts this year, guys. Oh, my God.

What is this? Colleen, like, got her head down at the table. I think if a punter pins an offense inside the five-yard line, and then the defense gets a safety, and then the punter's stat sheet should account for one of the points. I choose violence on behalf of punters everywhere. I mean, that feels more like a cat on your lap on a nice, warm day. That's like warm and fuzzy.

I don't know if that's violent, but I love it. I literally wrote, I don't have a violent fake. I'm tired. That's good. I like that idea just as a proposal, though, that punters, we should have more punting stats. In general. Thanks. Like inside the 10.

We want to expand the game with more punting storyline. That was just a nice way to give Ethan Evans is his name? Well, yes, Ethan Evans had a great punt, but also right before the safety, but also we've had some really outstanding, especially punting is becoming an extension of the defense on some of these teams. And I've loved watching that. I will say I have another one that's, I'm annoyed. I don't feel violent about it.

Okay. But I'm like annoyed about it. I don't think that coaching candidates. regardless of whether they're in a playoff game or not, should be able to interview with teams until everybody is done playing. Yeah. You know who agrees with you?

Who? Me. But also, Bill Belichick. I saw him make... How could you argue? Yeah. I was surprised because it's been a tough... I'm annoyed by it.

Paras social relationship year for me and Bill Belichick. He doesn't know this, but I have not enjoyed his media career. It just hasn't been saying anything. and I often disagree. It just hasn't been good. I don't like how he handled it. I'm not saying anything.

No, no, no. But he made this point and I saw it this week. He made this exact same case. And I do agree with it. Greg was like, finally Bill Belichick says something that's worth something. Yes, exactly. I'm just annoyed about it. I think it sets everybody back, whether it is trying to do right by minority candidates,

whether it is stressing the F out of candidates who are preparing for playoff games and taking things off of their plate, whether it is basically just wasting time by people you know you're not going to hire, you're just waiting for coaches on good teams. And it's like everyone chill, wait one second, it's your own fault. If you're so god-awful that you fired your coach halfway through the season, let the good teams cook and fully focus and wait your turn to speak to him. And then in that way, everything equalizes a little bit more. This is common sense.

Like, this is what the rule should be. And you wonder, though, if the Lions hadn't lost, let's say they go to the Super Bowl. Does Ben Johnson get hired by the Bears for sure? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe they wait until February, and it's fine. And it's kind of agreed to, like Kyle Sannay was back in the day. I don't know.

Like, the whole thing seems off to me because, of course, it's a distraction. People talk about, like, oh, distractions in the locker room. And, like, I'm not saying that the lion's, lost because of that. But of course it's a distraction. You're going to these interviews. And if you really want to get the job, you're really preparing hard for the interviews and spending a lot of time. Not that, like, you're not, it's not like they're missing team meetings or anything like that, but. That's a lot of stress on one person. It's just like. Well, and also, and also it's, it's derivative of the candidates time, regardless of, of who they are, because you're saying, oh, we'll go on

Zoom for an hour. That way we're not taking up your time. And it's like, how the hell could you get a feel for somebody over Zoom in an hour? And then second of all, like, you're not even really actually doing proper research at that point. And it's all being agent fed instead of you getting in the weeds with these people and like actually looking and seeing what they're about. And like it, okay, I am violent about it. I'm annoyed. Yeah. And Johnson never even met with the bears in person. Like that was just a, right? that's why everyone came out to see him and we're like are we sure this is him brought it back around he's not wearing a hat are we sure this is him

I mean it yeah it is a little crazy and of course it would be distracting less so for the GMs this is actually a good time to be taking those interviews they're busy but they can they can handle it but that's like a lot of a lot of preparation actually our friend Anthony Weaver I'm calling him a friend

because he was a guest on the show and I don't think he would know who I was quite yet but I'm calling him a friend. In Miami, they asked him a week or two before the season ends about interviewing for these jobs

and he was like, oh yeah, my agent was getting on me because he asked me what have I done to prepare for these interviews and I told him absolutely nothing. I'm just,

I'm putting everything into these final weeks of the season. And that was, you know, the regular season. and that was maybe a tell that like he might have an uphill battle in this in this cycle because there are certainly coaches that have gone through it a few times and they I would respect that though yeah I do respect it if you're especially if you're working for the dolphins you you respect

it but like it takes a lot anyways let's go to my favorite part of the show and it's called puppy corner let's learn about Colleen Wolf before we say good Bye. I know your life has been thrown upside down by a new creature. Yeah. You know what? One day, why don't I just drive out to Palmdale in the middle of nowhere, go to the pound and pick up a puppy. It's going to be so nice. I finally will have like a full time puppy living with me. And I mean, I didn't really realize how much of a puppy this one was. They said that she was about a year and a half, which, you know, Yeah, that's still puppy energy, but she's a border collie. So she's very smart and very active. And I went with Kima, which, by the way, if anyone gave me a name submission, thank you. That was so entertaining. Here's a picture.

If you're watching on YouTube, it's the only exclusive place you can find a picture, beautiful Kima. So, yes, I went with Kima. I got hundreds of name submissions. My mom has actively told me that she doesn't like the name Kima and has given me another set of possible names. But Kima is, I can't leave the house without Kema freaking out because she has separation anxiety. So I have been sort of under house arrest and just trying to work with her. She pulled out her stitches and staples on her. She got spayed.

and she worked her way out of multiple cones. So we're now on the third cone. I watched Sunday's games, the Eagles. I watched everyone on Sunday at the Animal Hospital because I was there with her as she got re-stitched and stapled. So now she's home and I have someone watching her. So I'll go back. And yeah, today I found her standing on top of the kitchen table.

Like a cat, but she's 45 pounds. She's a counter surfer. I love it. Oh my gosh. I grew up with a Sheltie, a Shetland Sheep Dog, which is a close relation, a mix that includes border collie. Yeah. And I could have told you, they're a little more, you know how some people say like, oh, yeah, my dog is, he's kind of like a cat. Like, they are not that.

They're going to take their high maintenance. They're a lot. Yeah. They're a lot of fun, but they're a lot. She's very funny. Just very smart though So she has already figured out A lot of workarounds for things

Yeah you know what I'm a terrorist I'm so excited for you First of all she is fully emotionally And physically in charge of your house now So congratulations I'm really excited for you though Because my Tucker is a shepherd colleague mix

Oh He counter-surfed just to give you a heads up He counter-surfed until he was six No So and this was barricades He knows how to open doors He learned how to do all of these things but once they

I've cried so many times over the last. No, but I'm saying, it's a good thing. It's a good thing. Once they grow into you and learn you, it's like they really respect your tendencies and your personality and the way that you operate and like they fit themselves into your life

in a very cool, very human way. And it's so rocks because you can see them figuring it out. Like she's figuring you out. She is. I don't know why, but Eric is laughing more than I've, I just love that. for you. I'm excited for you. I love it too. You have about five years until she like really comes

out. You had a child. Congrats. Yeah, that was like. I feel like it. I have to get like daycare for her. I'm flying my dad out here to watch her when I go to the Super Bowl because like she can't be left alone for even 30 seconds. She cries when I go into the shower. She freaks out. Yeah, once our dog, Mindy got to like six or seven, then those were prime, you know, years after the amount of negotiating I do with her. That's she, that's, that's, that's, that's, they. love that. Uh-huh. Yeah. She learned steps the other day and what mirrors are. So we're really just, um, I have, she's like four months old, it feels like. I'm so happy for you though, because you two are going to become this bonded pair. Like she's going to be ride or die just

all about. It's just cool. I'm excited for you. I know it's a lot. I can, Tucker and I volunteer to help with whatever. He's very calming. He's been through it. Okay. You know, he's like, I've been that girl. You know, so yeah, whatever you need, we got. great yeah well that was another episode of puppy corner there will be many more i can't wait i can't wait to return i've cried so many times oh my gosh are you okay yeah i'm sure it's like riana said you know you found love in a hopeless place there was there was all this um tragedy in our area and coming out of the fires there came keema uh-huh into your life you did a really good thing Colleen.

You will, you will remember. I mean, it'll all be mashed up together, right? The fires and chema coming into your life now forever. I love her. She's really sweet. She's funny. She's just a handful. So I brought a terrorist into the home.

And I mentioned at the top of the show that you are still receiving some holiday cards before we say goodbye. Who cares? It's January 21st. Here you want to open one? I have a feeling Colleen's tree is still up. Am I right? No. No.

Uh-uh. I thought maybe. You got one from Germany? Got one from Germany. That's cool. It was really fun. This is from Pascal Broghammer. Cool.

He says hi to Tim, my brother. So thank you for that. We got one from Emily Volz and Luke Gagne. Shout out to Toby Strayker, the only listener who addressed me and colleague. Oh. So I like you. We got one from South Dakota. and North Dakota.

You guys got one from Adrian Vasquez from North Texas, and he said something I can relate to. Forgive the smeared envelope. I'm a lefty. Best wishes for 2025. Toby, by the way, is a Raiders fans.

Does mention you specifically, Jordan, in the card and says he's looking forward to more draft content soon. I'm glad you mentioned that, Toby, because we're going to go hard. It's a daily podcast. We're going to go very hard on the NFL draft. I'm looking forward to that.

Sounded like a threat. Season. Oh, Emily got a new puppy. Oh. She says, uh, Merry Christmas to Colleen, Greg and George. Look at that dog. Oh, my God. Yes. Corner continues. You guys are the best. We, we love our viewers, our listeners. Keep playing it. Erica, as we get out of here. Oh, go birds from one long-suffering Philly fan to another. My dog says hello. I love that.

I just hope. Honestly, if you guys keep sending Christmas cards throughout the entire year, this can be a semi-regular. Oh, this is amazing. Part of the show. We'll be back on Wednesday. Luke. Patrick Claibon, some special guests. Yes, when the Jets and the Bears are getting their fan bases, hopes up again.

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