NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Best fits for free agent QBs

Episode Date: February 24, 2017

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling & Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including Bears QB Jay Cutler saying he’s considering retirement, and the latest on Teddy Bridgewater’s injury and whether or not the Vikings QB will return to the NFL. The heroes also take a look at the top QBs in free agency and predict where each one will end up before diving into some of your questions from the ATN mailbag.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is binge watching Scorpion this weekend. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. That reminds me.

I did promise back in January or December that I would, would binge watch Scorpion, and I cannot lie to the audience or not keep a promise. The CBS program. The audience, Wes, I mean, Greg, everyone knows what Scorp is. It is one of the top-rated hour-long dramas, and the only place where you could have a commercial like this. What's harder than preventing a nuclear disaster? Conventing a nuclear disaster.

Thank you for coming. With your mother. So I will. I have to find it. Is it streaming? Let me, let's look at this. How have you held yourself back from? completing this mission between the end of the Super Bowl and now.

How? You guys, you know, talk amongst yourselves until I find out of Scorpion is streaming. The whole show has stopped for this B-minus-level CBS program. B-plus, probably. Maybe it'd be. Probably. You've never even seen it. It looks like season one is on Amazon.com.

I'm going to look into it because it's time I made my promise. I will be watching Scorpion for all its glory. How are you doing, guys? And we're just picking up the pieces from what just happened. I don't know what. I once tried to explain the whole scorpion bit to my wife. Good luck with that. Yeah, it was a little hard to really get into.

We had lunch today with the Gold Standard. Oh, yeah. Sid, behind the glass, does this make you a little nervous or upset at all? Just to even hear me make that statement. Listen, he came in and he was just the friendliest dude I've ever met. That is true. New money and Gold Standard would get along very... very well long term gold standard for the 90% of the people

I'm not sure our former great producer out there yeah a great producer and a great man who's uh is doing it in the world uh has spent some time in england now he's back in the u.s so we had a nice lunch with the gold standard always good to see him this is the Thursday edition of the round the NFL podcast sponsored as always by mr flames economics class in the hague the netherlands Good show today, gentlemen. We are going to talk Cubie Carousel.

Mark Sessler wrote a banger. Because, you know, I don't know if anybody's noticed. Last few shows, you know, talked a little bit about Wes's, some of his, Wes's stuff, talk some of Greg's stuff. And, you know, Mark, Mark was over there, probably thinking to himself, when do I get my stuff talked about on the podcast today, my friend? Today we'll talk about your banger. And the true shame is it's not even that original,

of a departure from what we talked about on the last show when we talked about where Roma would land up. I just expend it just took it out to other quarterbacks. Beautiful cell mark as always. Well, it's February 20-something. Of your work. This one involves Kirk Cousins and some other guys. All of them.

Good. So we'll go through the carousel. Also, we will be opening up the mailbag. We love to open up the mailbag because that allows us to connect with our listeners all over. Brings back bad memories for me. TerraFerma. Yes. It does.

Wes, a former U.S. postal worker, and that might come up. That's called a tease in the business. He worked for the U.S. males. That's what they used to call it. Is that like a strip club associated with the postal service? No, I used to call it the U.S. males back in the old day. Nobody at the Covington, Kentucky Post Office, called it the U.S. Males.

Nor did my father who worked there for 42 years. Is that like a subgrade Chippendales, the U.S. males? Apparently. That is what I. Nobody wants to see a mailman naked. Just don't Google that Whatever you do Not where I was going with that

But no circumstance Good luck in this room And also of course We'll go through what's going on In the news And before we do that We will formally say hello To the first lady

Over on the NFL podcast She is New Money Hey guys What's up Oh not much You know I'm just chilling back here Having a great time Same old same old

You play the sleeping beauty drop And listen I didn't It wasn't familiar to me. I still want to, I want to play like a more famous Disney jingle when we introduced last Sid, but we need to get a shadowy league figure on our side about this. We do. I'm not sure which one to approach.

I think I know who the person is. So we're going to work on that because I think you need a more recognizable Disney jingle when we introduce you. You deserve it. All right, gentlemen. So that's today's show. Let's do some news. Why are you smiling?

Because I love football. Football's fun? Fun, sir. Let's start in Minnesota, where Teddy Bridgewater suffered that catastrophic knee injury last summer. One of the strangest injuries in all my years following football, he planted his leg in a practice, and the knee just went a major injury. And the hope at the time was that he'd be ready for this upcoming season after missing the 2016 season, which, of course, led to the Vikings trading for San Bradford.

But it still sounds like he is far from out of the woods, Teddy Bridgewater. On Thursday, General Manager Rick Spielman declined to say with 100% certainty that Bridgewater will ever play again, according to USA Today's Tom Pelliserro. Spielman said, everybody's hoping the GM added that Bridgewater is still not doing any football activities, 24 years old. He dislocated the knee and tore his ACL in a practice last September. a sad story, Mark Sessler, and you hope you see him again. But as far as the Vikings are concerned, again, the trade for San Bradford is looking even better now

because there's a very good chance he's going to be your quarterback in 2017 as well, it seems. Yeah, when the trade for Bradford went down, I remember being in the office that day, and it was a weekend day and there were not a lot of people around. And my initial thought was, well, this probably to Mike Zimmer, A, you don't have a lot of years to prove that you're the guy for the job. And you have a good team here, and we thought that Vikings team coming off a playoff appearance could go right back again, that it was a move that said we're not giving up on the season. We're going to get the best quarterback available.

It's not the best quarterback in the league, but it's Sam Bradford. But now it does look like a truly smart ploy on their part because maybe they knew at that point, maybe not to the degree they do. They must have known that there's no reason to believe that Teddy Bridgewater was going to come back, A, late season, obviously, but maybe even not for the beginning of next season. And now it looks like we don't know what the future is. Well, I think they just don't have any idea. And I think they knew when the injury happened that this could be a multi-year process.

And we just don't know. Mike Florio, my old boss at PFT, who's usually pretty tied in with the Viking. He said even the speculation scene likely, not likely. It's almost off base because it's not like Teddy Bridgewater's doctors know where he's going to be at. He's still relatively early in this process, which says a lot. You don't have football injuries like this where six, seven months after it, you're still early in the process. When it happened, it was described as a torn ACL, dislocated knee,

and other structural damage. Yeah. The way it was described, I thought immediately this is probably worse than Marcus Latimore, worse than Willis McGehy, and immediately people were saying he might not ever play football again. And on top of it, so much changes with any football team over. two seasons, that if he gets healthy, there's no guarantee that when he comes back he's the starter for this team on any level. Well, right. I mean, Sam Bradford could either be great this year and lead them to the playoffs, or they could be six and ten and have a different person

picking players. A lot of people think this is kind of a boom or bust do or die year for Rick Spielman. Their general manager has been there for a long time. Moving on to other quarterback talk in the NFC North. Soon to be former NFC North quarterback, Jay Cutler, is currently a Chicago bear, but there is the strong belief that he will either be traded or released in the coming weeks. And NFL Media Insider, Ian Rappaport reported on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access on NFL Network that Cutler is still considering whether he even wants to play or retire and just walk away age 34.

Of course, Chris Wesleying, who you wrote the piece up on NFL.com, this seems like a very transparent move by Cutler to torpedo whatever trade value he has, which can't be much, and get into free agency where he could maybe pick his own team. Is that how you're reading it as well? That never occurred to me, honestly. This happened on Total Access yesterday, a little peek behind the curtain. Pick it. Credit to Dan Helly, who immediately stopped Ian Rapidport and said, you're bearing the lead because this was way down on the list of items about Jay Cutler that Ian Rapaport had. And I texted Ian because the way he brought it up, I thought E.M. didn't want it to be written about it. It was kind of a minor thing.

But he said, this is just the fact of reality in the NFL now. And the modern NFL where these guys make that much money, you get to your mid-30s, and you're taking everything as year-to-year. You're evaluating whether your situation is what you want. If you're Jay Cutler and you get very little guaranteed money, you have to compete for a starting job in a team that's going nowhere, is that going to keep you from retirement? When you've already made $100 million? I don't know. like what's his motivation i think the real story maybe we're bearing the lead a little bit here is uh the headline on the end around today an ode to j cutler and what i'm really seeing as

the big story is dan hansis starting to convince himself talk himself into that maybe j cutler is a good option for the jets here's the start of his third paragraph from dan i've always strangely admired Cutler's brand of let's just call it DJAF. He never seemed particularly interesting. You're getting in on Jay Cutler. I kind of like Jay Cutler. I'm not saying that he, and this is kind of like the West Greg beat

because you guys always fight about Jay Cutler, but I've always found it to be an entertaining character. Oh, he's a character. Back in 2012, I wrote up, I looked it up when I was writing that column, which you should check out at NFL.com slash end around. That I wrote that he was the NFL's greatest villain because there was a time where he could actually really play and his attitude

and the way he kind of would mess with Mike Tice on the sideline and just not care about anything and still perform. I don't think he can really perform and it's very important to note that he's coming off a torn labrum and his arm is his best characteristic. So if he doesn't have a strong arm, I don't want anything to do with Jay Cutler. But in a rebuilding year for the Jets

where they really just need somebody to play quarterback, if I can have a year of fun with Jay Culler, where he makes some plays or is a total disaster and the Jets are behind the steins doing the right things to build for the future? I need somebody to play. Would I rather have Jay Cutler or Josh McCown or Brian Hoyer? Give me Cutler.

Let's have some fun here. And you may get your wish because it sounds like of all the teams out so the Jets are the one, A, they desperately need something a quarterback. They just need something. They have interest. And you have the right attitude. If you're looking at Jay Cutler and you're trying to tell your friends and neighbors,

hey, this guy's going to push the jets over the top, look out in England Patriots. That is going to be a disastrous ride for you. My eyes are open on the Jay Cutler situation. I think they're more open than they were with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and I would think he's an upgrade over Ryan Fitzpatrick, frankly. I think the Jets are really the only team that makes sense because he has burned so many bridges, not just with teammates,

but with former coaches and the new Jets quarterback's coach is Jeremy Bates who had him in Denver and Chicago as quarterback's coach. And by all accounts, the two of them get along great, and Bates is a big Cutler fan. I think there's a couple places, it all depend. You know, we'll talk to Carousel later, but just specifically for Cutler, you know, Kyle Shanahan, if he can't find what he wants in free agency or something, could he go with Cutler and a rookie?

Is dad drafted a couple? Wait, right. Is this bumping into Mark's free agent carousel? Well, it's the Cutler part. You don't want to step on March 3rd on this. Let's wait for the Carousel. Don't you think Kyle Shanahan is trying to institute a culture in San Francisco? The last guy you want instituting a culture is Jay Cutler.

You made fun of me for throwing out the possibility just that Foles would have a chance. I'm not stumping for. Who made fun of you? Wested. And I, I, I, I, I, that's not, that's you framing the question. I really, I really, I really, I didn't, my point is I really think Cutler will. I hate it that you put the energy out there that Fools could be a started quarterback. I really think Cutler will be starting.

So one of the, one of these, these carousel spots is going to stop and Cutler's getting on. But this way, Josh McCann, we wrote about this on ATN today. told a reporter recently that four or five teams are courting him. So many teams are courting Josh McCown that he, so many teams are courting him. He can't even keep count. Well, Jay Cutler is going to have a market as well. There is one big difference between McCown and Cutler. And it is how they are viewed within their own locker room, I think.

McCown has been a pristine teammate. He may be done on the field very soon, but people want McCown around for more than just his playing ability. Culler is going to have to probably convince teams other than the Jets that he still wants to play football. He would have to convince the Jets too. Well, the Jets may say, listen, we don't need to have. There's a little bit of credit mark. The Jets can say we'll have that conversation later.

Do you want me on your corner? Because if the Jets don't even need him to want to play, I'll probably be on the corner. He's also five years younger and has started 130 games at an average level. If he thinks that J. Cutler, what do you say? I don't want him in the Jets. That's going to be a disaster. You love Cutler. You've always loved it.

I've always held out hope he could turn it around. At this point, you know, it's looking pretty dim. Early 30s, why not now? We need Bruce Ariens to save him next year. Moving on, a little bit of tackle talk. Tackle talk. Russell Okun is not going to be on the Denver Broncos next season. The team declined to pick up his option, that initial deal that he framed himself with the Broncos because he was his own agent.

turned out to be essentially a one-year $5 million deal with an option for a $40-year $48 million agreement. This is the case against being your own agent, by the way, because nobody would really agree to that if you had a functional agent on your side. So now Russell Okung is going to be on the marketing. And Greg, what are your thoughts on this? And where does he fit in into the big old top 99?

Well, we just finished our top 99 free agents. Okung, we're not sure about it because we've got to add him to the mix. But he'll be in there in the middle. The tackle group is terrible. I could see him returning to Seattle. He'd be in my top five tackles available. I mean, he played last two years healthy enough, not particularly well, but he's a starting left tackle in the NFL,

which means he'll get paid by someone. I don't get this. It seems to me like writers are in bed with agents when everybody's waiting to pounce on Russell Okun. He's not the first player to be cut after one year. Whether he signed his own contract or an agent helped him. This happens to players all the time. But you can usually...

Lost of money, though. At his age, you can usually probably get some guarantees into the second year. Depends. He wasn't at the top of his game. He was signed to be the starting left tackle, the defending Super Bowl champion, and he made $8 million on one year. That's not good money. Pretty good.

$8 million. For the leverage he had going into the free agency, I don't think he signed a good deal. I don't know if he had a ton of leverage. He was an injury-prone guy. And that Denver line is so depleted at this point. I would put a sandwich right now that they draft at least three offensive linemen. because what's out there in free agency, there's good guards out there,

but if you're looking for tackles, it's not a great free agency class. Three or more. How many draft picks are they out? That might take you up on this. Let's take me up. I mean, you know what? We've been betting sandwiches all season.

Nobody's paid up, so I'm going to just keep betting them. I don't care at this point. You actually make a good point because the game loses all value if we're not paying off the sandwiches. I think it doesn't. It begins now.

It begins now. We have to start. And that's bad news for you. Maybe you shouldn't have brought it up, Mark. I like Dana. Why is it bad news for me? Because, You lose the most sandwiches.

Who picked over to, who picked Super Bowl going into overtime? Was it you? Was it Wes or Greg? Was it new money? I'm obviously, you know it wasn't new money. I'm obviously. We know it was in the standings. Huh?

Definitely wasn't West. Wes wasn't even there. I wasn't there. Wes was undefeated in his Super Bowl predictions on our Thursday podcast before the big game. Other offensive tackle news, Jason Peters will stay with the Eagles in 2017. Ian Rappaport reported Thursday that despite speculation the Eagles could move on, he'll be back with the team he's set to make nine and a half base salary and his workout bonuses bumped that number to close to $11 million, $35 years old used to be, you know, in any conversation

of the top blindside guys in the league, but time and injuries have taken a toll, but not enough for the Eagles to divorce themselves, guys. It's just a quick show of what Mark just said. There aren't tackles available in free agency. It's supposed to be a bad tackle class in the draft, according to. to Daniel Jeremiah and move the sticks. So they asked Jason Peters to take a peka and he was like, no. And then they just kept him.

So that had a nice job by Jay. And by the way, just one thing. DJ, move the sticks. Heard about some shade being thrown our way on your show. You're punching up. Punching up at the big leagues. In what context? What was the shade?

I just called this the Toaster podcast, I think, was the exact word. The Toaster. Pretty funny. You're coming out the big chairs. Just, you know, pipe down a little bit. I would just say if you're the Eagles Wait, was that me or was that the announcer? I have no idea.

Let me go full, Francesa. Hey, Danny, why don't you go get the ratings book and tell us what you think about the Toast Show? All right, go ahead. I don't even remember what my point. I think it's this. I mean, you've got Carson Wentz, and we can say that Jason Peters is declining.

He was still, if you would care about what PFF says, I think it was the eighth-rated tackle last year, and you can't go replace that position necessarily if you let him go. It's the wrong time to suddenly have a major issue at left tackle. Anything else, guys? Sit on that. That's it for tackle talk.

Finally. Trooperat. Trooperat. Trooperat. Trooperat. The offseason pool party continues. One of the more popular tropes of the offseason player X making strides and rehab program.

This time we have Eddie Lacey who posted video on his Twitter feed running at a pool at the University of Alabama, his alma mater. That is one of the great tropes. This is about a month after we saw David Johnson recovering from a knee injury jump out of a pool. Eddie Lacey recovering from ankle surgery that wiped out his 2016 season after about six or seven games. So Eddie Lacey on his way back and also back on the fitness. On a fitness kick, you know, conditioning has been an issue with Lacey. Last year it was P90X with Tony Horton, which, Mark, I know you followed very closely. Yeah, I admire him for it.

But Lacey apparently has dropped Norton in favor of a man or woman. Autumn Calabresi. It is a woman. How many men are named, or Autumn, by the way? I don't know. Why would Autumn have to be a woman's name? That's my character. I've never heard of a man named Autumn.

seems certainly like a Are we overdue for a man named Autumn? What's wrong with Autumn being a male name? That's a different conversation, maybe. So there you go. Autumn Calabrese. Well, by the way,

well, they all work for the same company. So it's, I don't think it's dropping Tony Horton. Oh, she's with the PX90 group. They're all with the Beach Body Group. But Conororor, she does a program called 21-day Fix, and Connor Orr did it before he had his wedding, which was last year at some point. Right.

And shed like, I think it's something like 20 pounds. Wow. And I'm doing it currently, and it is fantastic. Autumn Calibrease is a great teacher. I can see why Eddie Lacey. I understand he's the butt of jokes because it's, oh, football player wants to work out and get better in the off season. Let's start taking the guy to town. But, I mean, I think he's trying.

I like that you even know the subcorpos group that P90X and Autumn Calibresi is a part of. Very plugged in. Calibrate. It's true. We've heard a lot about this program. I mean, I think you've talked about the program as much. much as you've done the very into it listen you know what

I mean I think Connor and I are on this we're on this track and we're not going to give up how many days in are you 12 days are you ready to hit the beach I don't know I don't typically

hit the beach in general but I mean why not I will be soon all right talk to me in nine days let's track can you do a pod shirtless at the end of the 21 days

that would help absolutely no one in this room or outside if you've a beach body Is that the name of the program? Isn't it beach body? That's the like the corporate. That's the corporate name, yes.

I don't think I'm 12 days. I'm not nine days away from what they're claiming you could get to. Quite a bit away from that. Okay. Well, you look good. They look real good. Thanks, Greg. That's what's happening in the news.

All right. So it's time, everybody. To hop aboard. It's a little rusty. Watch out for the tetanus. The QB Carousel All right, so Mark Sessler wrote a banger

And as Mark puts it in the lead of his post Offs seasons are shaped by quarterback movement And this season will be a very interesting Offseason Because there are so many You know, name brands, I'll call them

They're not necessarily stars But names that are recognizable Players like Tony Romo, Kirk Cousin, Ty Rob Taylor, Jimmy Garoppolo, those type of names So what the Carousel aims to do, Mark Sessler, is what? Well, I wrote it as if you get off the carousel,

then you can't go to three different teams. If you get off the carousel and you land in San Francisco, we're not going to project someone else to San Francisco. Is it a kind of a domino game? A little bit of a domino type thing, but there's also some bizarre non-attached dominoes at the bottom, so that didn't quite fit. So I went with the carousel.

Did you ever think maybe, instead of carousel, go with the QB domino effect? Yeah, but like, again, some of the characters at the end are not attached. to anything of mean they're just dominoes yeah it's like it would have been like if you have the dominoes it wouldn't have been knocked down so got you all right thought about it went against it all right very good so mark's piece breaks it into subdivisions uh and the first division is headliners and kirk cousins i i i think west might be on the same page as me on this i still

struggle to imagine kirk cousins being anywhere but washington but there continues to be people who believe he will be playing elsewhere. And Mark, you're one of them because when Kirk Cousin steps off that carousel, it will be in Santa Clara, California, the home of the 49ers. Whoa. Yeah, I do. I just think that the kind of the heat around this is growing. And I think we'll know, you know, initially this was supposed to come out next week during

the combine. And I thought, we've got to get this thing up sooner because it's going to be completely, this will be completely irrelevant by then as the whispers and things start picking up. And I think a lot could happen at the combine around whether if the 49ers are serious about cousins, we'll know a lot more a week from now than we do today. What kind of heat are we talking about? What do we hear? They look to trade for them.

The Redskins would franchise them and then they can organize a trade. And it's not just us. You know, you're not going to like this at all. But Daniel Jeremiah. Well, that's where this all started. That's the heat. And he's not coming up out of thin air. He's talking to people and he's hearing this.

Well, he said he would not be shocked if the Redskins in 40. Niners did a trade. And he thinks there's a better than 50% chance Cousins isn't a Redskin in 2017. I think logically that seems... 2018, right? He's saying this year there's a better than 50% chance. Wow. That seems aggressive because I don't think the red...

We talked about it last show. I don't think the Redskins coach Jay Gruden wants to get rid of him. And I don't think necessarily Bruce Allen is going to be confident enough to put his job on the line to get rid of Kirk Cousins and replace them with what exactly? I don't know. You better have an answer. It better be Jimmy Garapolo. It better not be Jay Cutler. You know what I mean? It's tough to get rid of a guy. And I don't see them wanting to help Kyle Shanahan out. But maybe the 49ers truly would give up a godfather offer. That's what this is all. To me, this is all just leverage trying to build up his trade value. I can't see a team like the 49ers with so many needs.

the number two pick for Kirk Cousins. I just, they have too many needs. I don't see them. I could see Kyle Shanahan being patient and understanding that the Redskins can't tag Kirk Cousins again next year. It would be 34 million. Kirk Cousins would be free to go wherever he wanted to go in 2018. I could just see Kyle Shanahan approaching this with a lot of patience, as he said last week.

All I would ask is if you're Kyle Shanahan and you can get Kirk Cousins, a quarterback that you know well for the number two pick. I know that sounds crazy at this time of year. What is a greater need than quarterback? I think I would look to Kyle Shannon's history. He has the quarterbacks who have reached their ceilings under Kyle Shanahan are Matt Shob in Houston, Brian Hoyer in Cleveland, RG3 in Washington, Matt Ryan in Atlanta. Whoever he plays at quarterback is going to reach his ceiling, in my opinion, I don't

think he needs to give up the number two pick for Kirk Cousin. Well, he loves Kirk Cousins, by all accounts. Right, but he also loves a lot of quarterbacks because he's a great quarterback coach. There is a lot out there that Kirk Cousins wants nothing to do with the Redskins, doesn't want to be in Washington. And the Redskins, I think, have totally botched this. If the coach loves him so much and the coach wants them around for long term, then they couldn't have handled this anymore with any less.

Well, they could assign him to a deal last year that would have saved them money ultimately if they had had the foresight to do so. I think it speaks to some dysfunction in the Redskins organization, number one. I think that's true, but I don't, if Channahan truly loved Cousins and they could get it done for the number two pick, why not? That's what I mean. Look at the number two picks over the last X amount of years. How many of them are worth more than a franchise quarterback? Almost none of them. I mean, you, you have a 50% chance whether that guy's even going to be a great starter. But you don't even believe Kirk Cousins is that good. I don't. But I don't think Kyle Shanahan does either. I don't think Kyle Shanahan thinks that Kirk Cousins is like a top six NFL

Quarterman. He tried to trade for him in Cleveland. For a fourth round pick, not the number two overall. That was a different time and Kirk Cousins was seen. And I hear you, but I don't think that Kirk Cousins is seen by even the Shanahan's who love him as one of the top 10 talents at the position in the NFL. And I wonder where all this is coming from. I want this to happen because if Cousins goes, then it all gets a little crazy. Because then Washington is in the mix and it's like, Washington.

And if it doesn't go, this entire article needs just to be deleted because it all falls down from here. Speaking of Washington and dysfunction, does anybody find it a little weird that a team employee essentially on a team-owned radio station came out and throughout the accusation or possibility that their GM is drinking against, Scott McLuhan, who has had issues in the past? That a team employee is saying that and then the Redskins declined comment on the whole situation, that's, you want to talk dysfunction? What is going on behind the scenes in D.C.? No one's heard from Scott McLuhan in weeks and weeks and weeks, but I think that's an incredible accusation just to throw out there. Jerry Brewer wrote this column that I sent to you guys about what's going on behind the scenes in Washington, and it just seems like the same old story, that there's always this backbite,

this fighting going on. And right now it seems to be a little bit of a power struggle between Bruce Allen and McLuhan and Jay Gruden and Cousins is wrapped up in all this. And who knows, I would just say read the article. It's very, very interesting. Moving on, Mark. Now you have Jimmy Garoppolo stepping off the carousel, as it were, and joining the Browns. And we've talked about that, but I'm just curious, how disappointed on a 1 to 10 factory of sadness scale would you be if the Browns came out of this offseason without Garapolo?

Do you think he's a must have here? I don't think he's a must have. I think that if Hugh Jackson would want him that much and they don't get them, that's very disappointing. If they are content to go somewhere else without mortgaging, you know, a big part of their draft, and that includes getting a quarterback and that would remove essentially RG3 from the picture,

I'd be all right with that personally as a Browns fan. Let's work under the assumption that Hugh Jackson likes Jimmy Gaw? I think he does like him. Not pounding the table. Well, maybe he is, maybe he likes him. one to ten how disappointed will he be if he's not the brown's quarterback week one i like i'm at this point i really truly i keep saying this i don't feel much anymore so okay one to ten where would you be six okay i think you'd be eight i think my main takeaway from this article from this entire exercise is that mark wants jimmy garoppolo on the brown sure sure i do

but that's that's that's not necessarily i think that's harder to pull off than people realize i I think the bears are in love with Jimmy Garoppolo. I think the Browns are probably in love with Jimmy Garoppolo. And I think Kyle Shanahan would love to get his hands on Jimmy Garoplo. So I think those are the three teams, and you're going to have a lot of competition. But the Browns make as much sense as any of them. I think the Browns make so much sense. And I think a lot of people, and we'll see how it really shapes out.

But I think the Browns really whiffed on Carson Wentz. And this would be a good way to kind of bury that sin if you can pull off a trade that doesn't, you know, destroy your future, which I don't think it would because they have so much depth in this draft class in terms of ability to trade away picks and still be okay. Go and get them. Take a shot. If you like them, go and get them.

Don't let another guy get away. Right. I mean, first round picks, I'm almost at the point. I think first round picks. I know the contract's great, but it almost gets a little overrated before you know who the player is. Then you find out who the player is and you watch them for, you know, and it's some turns into Cam Irving half the time.

Yeah, it's a defensive tackle. It's a tight end that never materializes. I mean, I would rather go with the known product at quarterback, not every other person. Well, and Garapola, the one thing that I'm not buying is, you know, there's the reports. The Patriots have to be bold over and they're happy to keep Garapol. And I get that on some level, but if two or three teams are really in on him, there's never going to be a better time. And I think he gets traded. I would be surprised if he doesn't get traded.

All right. You have Tony Romo going to the Bears. Again, a lot of logic there. Bears are looking to move on and upgrade from Jay Cutler. But, you know, the Bears, I guess the counter to this, West would be that the Bears are a team that's kind of a few years away. And Tony Romo is one hit away from his career being over. Maybe I don't agree with a match on those grounds that they're not contenders.

I could much more easily see Tony Romo in Chicago than Tony Romo in Buffalo. But isn't it kind of the same thing? I think the bears are in better shape than, than the rest of the football world thinks they're in, especially if they keep Al-Shaun Jeffrey. I think they've got a nucleus. They've got a young second-year running back who was second in the league in rushing. Their offensive line performed better than just about any team connected to Tony Romo

on his landing spots list. They really protected Matt Barkley well down the stretch last year. And I think they've got an intriguing front seven on defense. But they've won three games. It should be pointed out. I'm talking about the talent on their roster, which is better than the Bill's roster, I think. That's from a smart analyst perspective. It is like Tony Romo really diving through

and figuring out the total differences between, like, and seeing all that in his mind that the Bears have that much potential when they're a three-win team. Shouldn't he? I mean, who should be more invested? But here's the thing. No one knows anything.

Like, all we know is that they haven't had a winning team in many years. We know he's got a connection to their general manager. We know that he played college in that area. So that might appeal to him. How many years? does Tony Romo have left? Zero to two?

Is that, are the Bears the team to go there when your window is that small? I think, to me, that's what it comes down to. I think the Bears can compete next year with a quarterback. Interesting. There is a lot of connections with Tony Romo there.

Played football with the GM. You know, if they don't bring back Al-Shan Jeffrey, you know, if you're a quarterback, I would think that your weapons would be, you know, one of the things you're certainly concerned about, they might have the very worst wide receiver group in the entire NFL. What about if you tell Al-Shon-Jeffrey?

It's Kevin White and Cameron Meredith are your top two. That works both ways. If you do keep El-Shone Jeffrey and Kevin White is who they thought they were drafting finally, they could be a much better wide-receiving core than people think. Karen Meredith played pretty well down the stretch. Mark, is there anything, anybody else in this list that you would like to talk about before we move on? well you got there's a lot we can go through them all we got okay Greg go ahead take over Greg can say let's do it oh I agree with Josh McCown to the Cowboys I think lock that in

yeah I think that was almost going to happen last year he's from Texas he probably is thinking post career he's definitely a family guy that's going to move back to Texas and I think he would fit with Dak Prescott and they're probably going to keep Kellan Moore too I think that's a fit I know he's I know Dan you mentioned he's got a multiple teams coming to after him, but that might be the one. He can't even keep track. Right. A perfect backup, but durability issues and all that. But yeah, you know, they have a young starting quarterback in place. That makes sense. Brian Hoyer to the Patriots is, I feel like Hoyer, in my opinion, probably thinks to himself, I can go somewhere and compete for a starting

job because that's what it always seems to happen with Brian Hoyer, which is not happening with New England, especially if they trade Garoppolo and they like, they like Jake. I mean, you know. I think Hoyer can go somewhere where he can compete. I did that as, Ooh, slides me off a piece of that, Jake Briskey. You have Tyrod staying with the Bills. It's all fascinating, and you have the Redskins rebuilding from scratch, because if the Redskins really did get in the mix, like the Redskins could very well be in the mix,

the Buffalo, the Bills could very well be in the mix, Tyrod could very well be out there. There's so many X factors to this, like our hit on Friday's edition of Up to the Minute Live, which everyone should watch, 4 o'clock. Eastern 1 o'clock Pacific, Wes gets after me and really goes after me personally. It feels personal.

Just for believing that Tony Romo could go to the bill because he doesn't have that many options. In Wes's defense, at one point you also go, what do you know? You could watch all of that on NFL Network on Friday. Greg is one of my most trusted voices in the wilderness, but we have reached a point in our relationship where we just are never going to agree on quarterbacks.

That's that true. It's just like, I have no more faith in your quarterback. Wow. That's cool. Wait a minute. I can't deal with the Nick Fools and Mike Lennon-Lowe. Oh, I don't like Nick. And the Tony Romo is willing to go to Buffalo stuff.

I'm not. I can agree on. This has nothing to do with evaluation. We're trying to get inside of Tony Romo's head. Can we at least agree that we have no idea what really matters to Romo? No, I'm not going to agree with that. We have some information. I love it.

uncertain. We have some information that indicates, you know, maybe some of the teams wouldn't be out there. And there's some logic that they just would be desperate. You're asking me to bypass common sense and say that Tony Romo, with only a year or two left in his career, is going to want to go try to topple Tom Brady with a much worse roster. Make some money. No, I don't believe that. If he goes to Buffalo West, what will you give Greg? What will you do for Greg? Or even if he shows anything. Do you eat some softball pants? I've already done that. I'll think of, um, will you eat Greg's pants? No. I don't know where Greg's pants have been. On his butt. I'll buy him lunch for a week straight, though. All right, I like that.

A week of lunches is good? Wait, is this like the other food bets where no one actually does anything with it? I mean, the odds on him actually going to Buffalo, even for an optimist, like I'm saying it's possible, would be pretty low, like a one and four chance or something. It's not like it would be particularly likely. One and four? Yeah. No way. I'm saying for an option.

I'm saying it's like one in the very highest level. All right. In summation. Wow. comments made Greg to West What do you know West to Greg

I have no more faith in your quarterback evaluation Wow that's Wow it got personal It did quickly And it's uncomfortable I feel bad You know

It's not just Sydney back there There are multiple technicians working on the show And it's I feel bad for them All right Check it out NFL.com slash Sessler

And usually you say that The columns and things that you write Are assigned to you Mark But this one came from your head And you said I want to get this one out to the people, correct?

That's mostly true. Almost all of your articles are your ideas, right? That's not all true. Most of my articles, I mean, a lot of times I'm just assigned, you know, hey, this happened, this guy got cut, hey, you were the schmo's sitting in your chair, you write it. Whenever I set Mark, typically when I set Mark up on a story he wrote on this podcast, this first thing, he says, well, this was something that was assigned to me. Well, let me say, whenever they say Vanity U.R.R.L, hashtag our last name, it tells you

what they think of it because all that is is a list of every story we wrote. So if someone goes there three days from now and if I've written anything since, good luck finding it. It's a long list of stories. It's not going to take you straight to it. So it tells you what the editorial desk thinks of this work.

I think it might be a little easier to find articles on your author pages than you believe. Do our listeners know about the F8 function? Are we digging on the... Same for the F8 function podcast. Yeah, that's going to be a good one. All right. There you go.

Make sure you check it out. And now, let's move on to the mailbag. Mail time. Melton. Melton. Melton. Slightly cacophonous. What?

I enjoyed that. I'm going to have you having nightmares about that. I hope we can get that again before the show ends. All right. So this, of course, all these questions come from actual listeners of the Around the NFL podcast. And where do we want to start? Here's a good one, this one from, this one from Alejo Enriquez at P-R-I-O-N-S, who asks, what team besides the Miami Dolphins will make the biggest free agency splash?

It's a good question because everyone's, dolphins are where everyone's going. Oh, look out for the Dolphins. We did that. We've been saying the same thing, but what about another team? And I'll throw it to you, Chris Wessel. Let me look at some salary cap numbers here, Dan. Okay. Do we come back to you?

I feel like there are 10 to 15 teams who have more than they could possibly spend. Almost the entire league, like 20-20-5 teams. The 49ers make a big splash. They have about 80 million in cap space second only to the Browns, and they need warm bodies at multiple starting positions on that team. I think it's easier to get players to go to San Francisco right now with the, you know, Kyle Shanahan is an attraction. Pierre Garsohn is an obvious one.

who when he played, Kyle Shanahan's offense is based on the ex-receiver, a dominant ex-receiver. And I don't know if Pierre Garsohn's that guy right now, but he was one of the most efficient receivers in the NFL down a stretch last year. He played, he led the NFL in catches as Kyle Shanahan's ex-receiver with the Redskins. He's also had Julio Jones and Andre Johnson at that spot. So I would say maybe they start with him. I think the Jaguars, even though they've tried this over and over, I think it's their mode. I think they like to be active in free agency. they have the same GM, and they've got, to some degree, a new regime.

I think they're going to want to get some new blood in there, and they've got money to spend. Ellie, throw in there. Buckingiers, there might be a... Buckingiers, for sure. A sleepy one. They've got $60 million under the cap, and you know they're going to go hard after Deshaun Jackson. Yeah, people think they'd go for Al-Shawn, and I don't think that's possible because then... He's too much like Mike Evans, too.

And you would have to be deciding almost not to pay Mike Evans, because then a year from now, you would literally have the two highest paid receivers in the league on one team. It's an excellent point, great. It makes up for your Mike Lennon, love. Oh, sad. We're back in this territory. Well, you just trumped it with a sad. Well.

Sad. Sad. Sad. Anyway, next up, Heinz Bowman at Heinz Christian writes. And I'm going to tweak this just a little bit to make it a little more thought-provoking. No offense, Heinz. No, none taken, I'm sure. He asks, would you rather have Jimmy, no, the guts of the guts of the question.

question, or excellent. Okay. But, you know, just the host here. Here we go. There we go. Would you rather have Jimmy G. for 10 years or Tommy B. Tom Brady, Tom Brady that we saw this past season for three. Tom Brady, no question.

Who is you? I want to win Super Bowls. Championship banners fly forever. Who is you? Like who, what, what team, what entity? The Patriots? Yeah. If I'm GM of any of the 32 teams, my answer is Tom Brady.

Okay. I'm going to win a Super Bowl. Well, let me knock it down to Heinz's, question. Would you rather have Jimmy G. for 10 years? You edited its question? Well, you're joining us on the show, Greg. Or Tommy B for one. I'm still taking Tom Brady. I would take Jimmy G. for 10 versus one year. If I'm a bad football team and I get Tom Brady for one, that's truly swinging for the fences. I appreciate that. But you'd have Jimmy G. for 10. But in this weird scenario,

if you're a Patriots fan, I'm taking Tom Brady for one. Well, that I get. Because you would never want to disrupt anything that's. You never want him to be. I know Tom Brady's an MVP candidate. I hope Jimmy Garoppel can be a top 20 quarterback, but there's a chance. He's not even a top 30 quarterback. But if you're a bottom barrel team and you're saying you have Tom Brady for one season versus a quarterback that's been very widely praised by people that work with them for 10, I will go with 10. Greg, you've started to get into soccer.

Sort of, yes. I have chosen a team. I'm a West Ham fan. Yes, big news. Hammer. Breaking news out of... Nat Coombs from old... Around the NFL podcast headquarters.

Yeah, Matt Coombs from TalkSport, too. I do a show with him. He presented me with a West Ham jersey. I was there for that. At the Super Bowl, you were there, and I decided Hammers forever after that. So your fandom can be bought. Yeah, I've always kind of wanted one team to root for.

So Oliver Gray at Ali underscore 9 asked this question, and I will throw it to you, Greg, because you did hang pretty well in a soccer-related conversation with Gold Center at luncheon. Is it Leicester City? Leicester City Sacked. That is a terminology overseas or fired. Their coach, Claudio Raniare.

Should they have stuck with Clodio Raniare? Or were they right to sack him? And those that aren't fans of the Premier League, this was the Premier League. Lester City was a huge underdog champion, I believe, in the 2015 season. Last year, 2016. Okay, they're close to relegation this season,

so they sacked old Claudio. Your thoughts, Greg? Well, I'm no expert, that's for sure. But it seems outrageous. It'd be like if the Browns won the Super Bowl and fired Hugh Jackson in the middle, literally the middle of the next season. That's insane.

I'm with you. I don't know. We're talking to Gold Standard about it and what he explained and what Greg also weighed in. Like, well, no, Greg is a big fan, but, like, I mean, it seems ridiculous. Like, he sounds like he gave that fandom an incredible, shocking gift out of nowhere. And this is what you turn around and do. Yeah, we didn't watch many matches this year, last year for LC. But I'm sure he played a big role in them winning a title.

So, yes, way, a premature sacking. Wes? I agree. Here's a question for Mark is the most natural person asked this question from James Somerville at Mosh cheese. If any of you were a Jedi, what color would your lightsaber be? Big Star Wars fan, Mark Sessler, what color and why? Blue. And why?

I like blue. It's a good answer. Next question. Eric Jensen at Eric 18, Utah. A mailman story. Please. All right, Chris Wessling. Now that means we'll throw it to you a former U.S. Postal worker.

Give us a good old mailman story. I start my first day at the Covington, Kentucky Post Office. I believe I'm either 20 or 21 years old. And I am paired with a 6'3-270-pound man named Ben Calloway, who informs me immediately he used to play with the San Diego Chargers or was at least in their training camp one year, I believe in the early 80s. And he's taking me through the housing.

projects of Jacob Price and we go and we have lunch and it's a very nice lunch at like the VFW with some nice old men white bread and bologna sandwich the real action comes about 2 o'clock that afternoon we're going through the mail route and we see

a woman get hit in the face with a brick oh no like a middle-aged woman is hit in the face with a brick by who by a man a drug deal go wrong and we see this younger white guy take off running, and Ben, the guy who's training him, he says,

oh, yeah, that's his mom who just got hit in the head with a brick. That's a drug deal gone wrong. That was my first day on the job at the post office. Welcome to the route. Yes. So how did the citizens arrest go? That was storytime. What, you think I was going to go run after him?

That's what mailmen do. Something beautiful just happened there, by the way. Let's hear that again. And that was Storytime. with the mailman. Nicely done. That was better than my story. Next up, Tom,

that sounds like a terrible harrowing tale, Wes. I almost think there's probably maybe you can go into therapy and talk about it and get some things out. There are much worse experiences at the post office that I need therapy from. Moving on Tom Dow at Tom underscore Tom 84. This is an interesting one.

What would be your death road dinner? Love it. Greg, you and I have similar sensibilities when it comes to the menu. What would be your death road? I know, Dan and I, whenever we're ordering, we always get the same thing. Yeah, it's kind of cute. And I might go to what we had today at lunch, at least in that vein. I think I might have to go fried chicken for my last meal.

Fried chicken and like a biscuit. Solid. Potatoes. I mean, I would think about, like, a nice steak for sure, but I don't know, right now I'm thinking I'm feeling some fried chicken. I'm thinking like a little, like, I'm going to get a little sentimental because I'm going to be fried in an electric chair hours later. I'm guessing that's how this works.

I'm going to have my mama's spaghetti and meatballs. Nobody made spaghetti meatballs like my mama. Give me that, a little home-cooked meal. Yeah, it makes sense. You obviously would have made her proud if you're in this place. Yeah, assuming she'd even agree to do it if I was on death row, perhaps she would have cut off ties with me. But if I still have a sound relationship with my mom, her spaghetti and meatballs, Wes. My friend Alex Montuano from Cincinnati, his mom was a fresh off the boat Italian who made the most delectable morsel of food I've ever put in my mouth.

Her homemade lasagna, which she made the noodles from scratch. She made everything from scratch. you put a fork on top of lasagna the fork just sinks all the way to the plate it was that soft and light I want that lasagna there you go and Mark Sessler which I'm fascinated by because you're not a huge food

fan and society's telling you the last great thing you get is food Mark will just be like nah I'm okay well I would be like yeah I'm okay because I don't get the whole thing that if you're about to be destroyed that I need to eat a huge meal I would already probably have gone on,

because I would obviously be innocent and falsely accused. I would be on a long, like, juice or water fast to begin with. I would refuse to eat. I would not eat anything in total protest of the judge, the entire judicial system. Wow. And it botched this case. They botched it.

So let's say you did it. Let's say you snapped and you did it. Then what? I still don't think food is what I want. No, I would not eat food. If we're setting nods, the most likely to be on death row of our group. I mean, I would have to go to Mark. That is ridiculous, Greg.

By the way, that is ridiculous, Greg. Secondly, let me tell you something. If I had done whatever they thought I had done, I would definitely be pretending that I hadn't done it and still protesting. So you have, I mean, come on. There we go. I'm not going to suddenly change my tune. I will refuse to believe I did it.

Okay. There you go. Which current, this is from Bronco Fanatic, at Bronco underscore Fanatic. Which current or former NFL player would you? most want to switch lives with for me this is easy as long as you get to time travel i would like to be joe nameth early 1970s upper east side of manhattan living the life that would be my choice i don't know the first name that came to mind is bobby lane in the 1950s he treated

the football season like i treat softball season just an excuse to get together with your buddies and drink beer? Okay. Can it be a coach? Which current or former NFL player? But if you want to... I never like these things. It's like who would want to switch a life with someone?

I would much rather be a coach. I don't know what. I would pick a... How about be Belichick and see how that is? Be fantastic. A miserable old man. I don't think he's miserable. I think he's...

I mean, think of me, he's on a boat right now. He's just one of a boat named Seven Rings. There you go. Sounds great. I'll be Malcolm Butler right before he makes that interception. Can I point that? Oh, now the Patriots lose. Greg just had to be.

Rosenthal dropped it. Ricardo, like that just ran over the defensive fact. What's that guy doing out there? Get an ambulance. This is from Lily Jaquith. Jackwith? Lily! At Lily Jekwith.

If all of your wives slash paramour had a podcast together. What would they talk about? I don't think we'd need that to happen. That might not go well for us. This is basically a pitch that John Gonzalez, Colleen Wolf, hashtag, or slash Connie Fox's husband, has proposed to do essentially a Wives of the Around the NFL podcast reality show

where he's sort of the centerpiece here, but it's kind of like how we're never around during the season. and they're just drinking champagne and getting into different dramas. Okay. My wife would want to know who's raising our infant son and two-year-old during these parties. I think it would be, I would love to hear it. I wonder what roles they'd play. I don't particularly think that Simone, my wife, would want to be on a podcast,

but maybe she would, maybe she would warm up to it if it's, you know, Emily and Emika and the rest of the group. Emily definitely wouldn't be, there wouldn't be a lot of football being discussed. I don't think that would be the expectation. No. Yeah, it'd be different. Emiko definitely would not want to. Anthony tried to get her to come on to the Rosenthal and Jesselick Vanity Project, RGVP.

No one even remembers that. But he did. People came up. People came up at the Super Bowl looking for it. And I had to tell them, no. The shadowy league figures at the NFL short-sightedly shot it down in yet another one of their lack of foresight decisions. I think the paramour would love to be on a podcast. I think she would too.

I think she'd be good on it, too. I think she would. I think she'd be great on it. Why do you think she'd only be good? All right. Question, does John get to me on this podcast? Oh, he, oh, believe me. He's got, I think he's got a larger design on the whole thing where it would suddenly, you know, become much bigger than anything we're involved.

There is something funny about that, that it's him and. They would love him, too. What about the idea of the wives agree to having John on the podcast? Why not? Why does he get the, wouldn't they potentially say, we don't need you here? In a sense, though, he would be. the match to Connie Fox, so it makes sense. Oh.

That's the whole point. How this works. Come on. Well, then you're opening it up to the whole universe then. What do you mean? Then you got Lindsay Rhodes' husband. Sure, he could come on. Patrick Claibon's wife.

Sure. That's fine. They would all appear as they naturally appear, which is in some cases periodically in some cases regularly. Kevin Patrick's fiancé. We had Troy Aikman on here. It's not Tony Romon here. It could be his wife.

Now, okay, that makes sense. Very interesting. Okay. Dan, you'd have to hate on this show because the ratings would be good and you'd have to start. It would get very ugly. I would support it if my wife was involved.

At Corbock. She could cast it. When will Greg pick his NFC South team of the season? That's an interesting question. Hey, by the way, I said the NFC South is going to be the most exciting division. It got pretty exciting. You're right.

It got pretty exciting. Well, every year I'm a year off, because I had the Falcons winning two years ago. I think this year I had the Saints. So I don't know. Who am I going to blow? Maybe I'll go with the Bucks. Your heart's in New Orleans.

Yeah, I don't know. Get out of the 7 and 9. Yeah. At some point they need to improve. Finally, from Mark Ferreiraresi at M.J. Ferreiraresi. Favorite movies, TV shows, books, scene read from 2016. And we could move into early months of 2017.

anybody favorite movie tv music books anything that's uh jumped out at you recently or in the last year oh planet earth too oh is that i'm looking forward to that i ordered it on demand is worth every penny you know i love nature you do love nature shows david attenborough is a he's a real hero in britain deservedly the narrator it's and it's beautifully shot in that new what is it h4 technology or 4K technology? You got to have a movie that you want to stump for? I loved Manchester by the sea. Yeah.

That would probably be my favorite movie that I've seen in the last year. So I loved, it's a little older, but I loved all things OJ related from last year, both the documentary from ESPN and the FX show. Love that. Thought the FX show was actually much better than the documentary. Really? Well, only because I followed that.

that I'm old enough to have followed that day to day, and the documentary was very well done, but the FX show gave me stuff that I didn't perceive or detect. I tried to watch the FX show, and I just couldn't get over the actors who were chosen to play the characters. Yeah. Just didn't do it for me. It was fascinating.

Other than Travolta, I thought the acting... Like, Cuba Gooding Jr. looks nothing like O.J. Simpson. That was a little problematic. But it's funny if you despise O.J. Simpson, which you have every right to. Don't not watch that because of O.J. Simpson, because Cuba Gooding Jr. does not have a huge role in the show compared to the lawyers involved and all the other players tied into that real-life soap opera.

I'd have to throw in the Elena Ferranti to me is one of the greatest writers that I've read in my lifetime. Hold on to write this down. How do you spell this? I banged through her Neapolitan novels, read a couple of the others. That was one of the, those are some of the best books I read in 2016. And I just read the new Michael Lewis who I think everyone in this room would like. It sort of applies to what we do. And it's kind of like a weird prequel almost to Moneyball in a weird way.

Very good. I will throw this in. I am watching The Young Pope on HBO. Oh, you're way in. It is, I feel like every once in a while you wish, you could, you find a show or a movie you wish you were attached to in some level in the production and understood how they made it. I think it is one of the best shows I've ever seen.

I don't think it's for everyone either, but it is absolutely, it is the acting's incredible. The cinematography in it is unbelievable. And every single episode has two or three super jarring, bizarre moments that I love. And I cannot stop watching it. It lost me. I watched first episode, but I, based on what you're saying, I want to give it another shot because it was really weird and a little bit kind

My wife instantly was kind of out and then I tried to stick with it. But it's definitely different. So I want to, I'm going to go back in on Mark's recommendation. Music. I like the radio head album a lot last year. Sturgle Simpson for me.

Sergill Simpson. I think it might have come out in 2015, but I really liked Taman Paul's last album. Yeah, that was very good. Been playing a lot of, It's raining men in the jukebox at dive bars and I think that song's coming back. What does that mean, though?

Let's stick behind that a little. bit. Why do you like it? I think it's why did that song get buried when they talk about the classics and no one mentions it. Why? This thing's, it's raining with. Two ladies. Angel Olson. It's great. The chance the, the chance Christmas album was way better than you could have ever imagined. The weather girls sing it's raining men. That's appropriate. The new run the Jules. Wait, Paul Schaefer wrote it? There you go. See, it's just a lot of pockets. Paul Schaefer did write it's raining men. All right, there you go.

Let's close up the mailbag. Mel time. Melton. Melton. It's very strange. It's worse than the pickle drop. We will be back on, let's see, we'll be back on Monday. Combine week next week.

So we will have a show Monday, and then we will do a show that combines the powers remotely from Indianapolis with, with Wes and Gray and Mark from the studio here in Culver. So get ready for that. So two more shows next week. And then after that, I think we'll be going to three shows a week leading up to and through free agency. So keep your eye out for more around the NFL content, podcast content, all spring. Thank you for everyone for listening, too.

We continue to get great kind of download numbers, which tells us that the audience is staying with us. through the offseason, which we certainly appreciate. You guys are awesome. And that's it. This is Dan Hansa, signing off for The Quiet Storm, the Mailman. The old boss and new money behind the glass. Till Monday. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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