NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Best/Worst-Case for 15 big names in Limbo; Connie Fox Sweeps FINALS

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling and Gregg Rosenthal recap all of the latest news surrounding the NFL including ESPN wanting to acquire Peyton Manning in the booth..., the Chargers making some moves (14:10) and the Redskins allowing Trent Williams to seek trade. (18:42) The heroes go through the big 15 names in limbo (28:24) and where they could make sense before Colleen Wolfe joins to pick the WINNER of the Connie Fox Sweepstakes. (45:00) Thanks for all the submissions!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Come to you from a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesleying, and beautiful voice of Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Finesse in that note, I like it. When you were a goth lead singer back in the day, were the levels of talent that you were producing vocally up to far with that? Never was a goth singer.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Well, you were in a goth band, and you were the singer. Screamo, I think it was. No. Frog rock. Cromo? Prog? Passed. More like they might be giants, dead milkman.
Starting point is 00:02:08 There's a birdhouse in your soul? They might be giants and dead milkmen couldn't be any farther removed from each other. They're totally different. They both sort of just like talk their. Do you always bring up the dead milkman or we talk about your band? Well, that's, you know, that was our. The butthole surfer. That was our North Star.
Starting point is 00:02:22 We did some, you know, some Nirvana, but not publicly. More just, just for the basement. Now, Nirvana famous for their, their pixies like soft, loud dynamics. So the verses would be very low, building up. Then the chorus would explode. Do you have some recordings where you're kind of doing the buildup and the verses and then those vocal chords, that powerful voice just go, no recordings.
Starting point is 00:02:49 No powerful voice. No Nirvana demos? I don't know, but no. You were the singer, though. Correct. Love you, bro. Yeah. That will be fine.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But you remember, circling back to this, you do remember, Greg, that we said we would make a beefy donation to a children's charity, I think it was. If you just produced the tapes, children, Greg. Yeah. I mean, you could do that anyway, so that's on you. I've been told that there are tapes out there. We're never going to give up the chase, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Always time to help. I mean, I've learned if there's a bit on this show, it never dies. So I'm aware. We'll be like... This is not a bit... It's like, hey, remember that time we went up to a Big Bear? That West was crazy that one. It's not a bit.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It is a quest, Greg. And it involves the assistance to children, which this is a right time... It's the opposite of a bit. Right. Right. It's the opposite. It's weird how little you do to help children, you know, other than this. No, the bit is you preventing that help...
Starting point is 00:03:54 I take care of my kids. Yeah. I mean, in our house and our house. outside our house. Friday show, having fun, getting excited. It's all been building to this, the Connie Fox theme song Sweepstakes Finals. Today, we picked the song.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Connie will be here a little bit later. She initially was going to be on the whole show, and then she started sending some video texts out last night about a yacht rock show she was at. And I'm imagining she hit it pretty hard, and she pulled back. She said, I'm doing one second. So that's her right
Starting point is 00:04:30 I mean we're not paying her for this But I just wanted you and the listeners to know that Initially Connie whole show Connie goes out late last night Connie part of the show Do I have that right to just Raise my hand for maybe 12 minutes of the show tops? By the move by a host for the guests that's coming in
Starting point is 00:04:46 To immediately throw her under the bus While she's not here I mean we went through all this effort to give her her own song I think she could take a little heat That's fair little heat Also Zusa wrote a banger here's the headline
Starting point is 00:05:00 I don't know what's up with these headlines 2020 NFL QB Carousel Colin best slash worst case scenario for 15 big names in limbo What if Heaven's to Betsy That is a mouthful What if just once
Starting point is 00:05:13 When there was a quarterback overview Somebody slipped in like landscape Instead of carousel Can I tell you this Wes? I'm right on that I'm right on that same place with you And oh Greg
Starting point is 00:05:24 Greg just knocked over my bubbly soda On to my life Sorry about that On to the equipment Why are you leaving an open can of soda? What were you attempting to do When you reached over towards Dan's body?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Ricky, we might need a paper towel Adjust things I got tissues That will be good All right, just keep talking Anyway Delicious bubbly Now you watch out West
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's over near you I should have known to put it up there I speak with my hand. Thank you. Erica brings in a box of ultra-thin tissues. That should help with this. These are the ones that were right by your dorm room bed mark back in college. Do they make a thick tissue?
Starting point is 00:06:12 I don't know. I'm just saying versus like a hefty, you know, some sort of... You went to Costco for your clean Xboxes, I recall. I don't think Costco even existed when I was in college. Anyway, I wrote like 1,600. words this piece never use the word carousel once why does carousel need to be connected to quarterbacks it's in like editing 101 well we do get to use this drive so that's good but i did not write carousel all right so we're doing that also some news so let's get to it
Starting point is 00:06:47 let's do some news this i'll follow up with uh because someone who had had been seeking quarterback's for so many years. Now you seem to have it with Sam Darnel, but which of those four would you want if you could go after one of them? What was that? I'm sorry. I missed that. Which of those What is that? Worst case scenario. I was on live TV with money yesterday. Didn't hear a word he said and he's setting me up for a question and he's continuing to set me up for the question and I have no idea what he's saying or what's coming. Why didn't you hear him? I don't know. I just I just missed one word. Like, it's just one word when he was setting up.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And then I couldn't, based on context clues, track what the question was. I think the victim is the viewer. It was a bit of that scenario. I think it was me more than anyway, because it was just, Hamina, homina, hamina. Actually, it's great when you watch any sort of news program and an F-Up occurs. It's delightful. Now, that gets your attention.
Starting point is 00:07:45 All right, let's get to it and let's start. Oh, big Monday night football speculation. ESPN missed out on Tony Romo, who decided to sign that mega deal to stay at CBS for at least three years and perhaps a decade or more. But ESPN, they're not going down without a fight as they look to potentially improve their Monday night football telecast. ESPN plans, according to Andrew Marcheon of the New York Post,
Starting point is 00:08:22 ESPN plans to attempt to acquire Al Michaels from NBC Sports for Monday Night Football. ESPN would like to team Michaels with Peyton Manning in what would be their dream booth, according to sources. Manning is now ESPN's top choice as an analyst after Tony Romo agreed to his deal. Al Michaels is under contract with NBC. However, stranger things have happened
Starting point is 00:08:49 in the media landscape, money talks. I don't know if Al wants to walk. or move. We're going to see if anything comes to this, but at the very least, Greg, this is really spicy and a best case scenario potentially, I think, for the viewer.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I mean, Stranger Things have happened in Al Michaels' career when he got traded away from ESPN and ABC. For Oswald the Rabbit. Right. So it all would come full circle. There's a little bit of awkward ego
Starting point is 00:09:17 and, you know, taking care of a legend in Al Michaels going on here. though, that you can't let Al Michaels know that you would be happy to trade him and replace him with Mike Tariko unless Al's really on board with that. And if I don't think Al would even consider it unless it's like a home run pairing with like with Peyton Manning. If they strike out with Peyton Manning and everyone that's close to Peyton Manning says he wants to work in the front office someday and doesn't seem like he's in a huge hurry to be doing anything that serious right now. So like if they don't get Peyton Manning, I wouldn't think they can get Al Michaels. Well, Peyton has already turned down ESPN twice in previous years. There was a source quoted in one of these articles saying he already outplayed Romo every week while they were playing. Why does he want to be compared to Romo every week as a TV guy?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Which seems like maybe Peyton Manning doesn't think he can do as well as Tony Roe. Well, that's a huge X factor because it's a dream booth in terms of name and prestige. But But Peyton Manning's persona and career would change sharply if he went in there and pulled essentially a Jason Witten. He has to know inside. I know you test these games. You go and I'm sure he's in the past done like a test run announcing. But how do you know if you're Tony Romo? It's the person you're just going to be, if you're not as good as Tony Romo, you're going to start off on the wrong foot one week into the assignment. Well, two things. One, it's about, I think, the deal that Romo got probably could lead to Manning being more interested in this job
Starting point is 00:10:53 because the money is probably going to be a lot different. This works to Manning's advantage in a negotiation, I would think. He wouldn't get Tony Romo money probably, but he would get a beefy paycheck. Two, he's a competitor. He's a competitive guy. He said he might get more than Tony Romo. 18 million years. He's a competitive guy. So the idea that I need a new challenge in my life, he's certainly comfortable on camera and he doesn't shy away from the spotlight. So if the money is right and the spotlight is something that is attractive to him, he also doesn't need to be Tony Romo. Like I know that's like the idea here.
Starting point is 00:11:24 It's like, well, if he can't be Tony Romo, he shouldn't be doing this. All he has to do is be better than Jason Witten. You know, he has to be better than Bougar. And he has to be competent. He's got to be kind of like what Gruden was, which some people liked him. Some people loved him. Some people didn't like him. I think that's more of the bar that he needs to meet.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But he could. He was a great TV figure, though. He made people have opinions. whether you liked him. I liked Gruden a lot. The opinions varied with Gruden. Right. I think Manning, though, the bigger question is just like, would he want to do it?
Starting point is 00:11:54 I don't get the sense like you mentioned, you know, he would want another challenge. Who knows what he thinks. But my feeling would be he would want him more of a challenge. So this is not like. Well, I didn't say he would. I said he might. Right. Like it's a very difficult thing to do.
Starting point is 00:12:10 But it's not necessarily like is his dream. If it was his dream to do it, he would have taken the couple off. Well, I think getting Eli Manning out of the league helps because I don't think he wanted to announce anything involving Eli's giants, fading Giants career. But, you know, competitive is fine. Competitive doesn't necessarily make you an innately good communicator or observer of the game. It's just like what Romo's done is, it's surprising,
Starting point is 00:12:36 but it's a delightful surprise because you found out that he can translate what he knows so well to the viewer. So many quarterbacks have gone and tried to do this. Johnny Unitas totally flailed out at CBS way back in the January. No, Namath was terrible. I mean, it's just there, it's an ex, you play the game. The fact that you can make the regular, like a casual viewer understand the game and love it more is a total unknown. Everyone thought Brett Farve was going to be like the next big TV star and that never happened.
Starting point is 00:13:04 The ESPN could stumble into an even better announcer than Peyton Manning because their second choice is reportedly Kurt Warner who has done some announcing. very good. Philip Rivers has been connected to this, but it certainly seems like Phil Brivers still wants to play. I think Greg Olson would be great, but he wants to continue to toil. But the other big part of this,
Starting point is 00:13:25 it's fun to talk about because it's saucy, but Al Michaels, who's in his late 70s now, he's under contract for, I believe, two more years. Everyone knows that Sunday night is the best game of the week or the best primetime game of the week.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's probably comfortable where he is. How much of a fight does he want to put up here, would he want to go to Monday, which is a lesser game? And it's not as big in terms of ratings. He loves ratings. Al talks about ratings all the time on the broadcast. He would kind of have to get nudged or get maybe a little saucy package himself to make this work. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:57 There's a lot of things that have to... I was not moving without getting more money. Yeah, I feel like a lot of things have to fall into place for this to work. But it's a fun idea. And I think, like I was saying, like, I think viewers would be the winners here. Oh, especially if you got Tariko up there. But wouldn't it maybe change the Monday night lesser game scenario if suddenly you have Mel Michaels and Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 00:14:15 It would make it a better game to watch, even if the matchup isn't as good. Well, the crazy thing, firstly, they did have a great schedule last year. It was a little up and down. It was a little up having a better schedule than Sunday Night Football. They sort of lucked into having a lot of big games. But he is supposedly, according to this reporting, you know, on his way out the door after the next Super Bowl that NBC has, which I think is 2022, that Tariko was already going to start taking more games maybe starting this year
Starting point is 00:14:44 that Al would just have some regular weeks off. So like what, yeah, it's not going to be as comfortable. It's like a free agent quarter, but like if you're Tom Brady or you're Al Michaels, you've got to go to a whole other system, a whole other thing, like, I don't know. I hope it happens. Probably won't though. Meanwhile, if you're bugger and
Starting point is 00:15:02 Tessitore, you're dying, right? It's like, ugh. Well, those is just the major story of the offseason, I know. They've been doing college for years and that they would still be working. Yeah, it's got to be the ugliest thing to sit around and ponder that you're like everyone, someone, you're being replaced by someone. Right, you're kind of like the afterthought.
Starting point is 00:15:20 All right, well, so we'll track that and see how it all plays out. We had a trade that went down shortly after we did our show on Wednesday. The Los Angeles Chargers, well, it's a tentative trade. Tentatively agreed to a trade of tackle Russell O'Kung to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for Guard Trey Turner. Rapsheet reported this. the trade of two offensive linemen, two starters, is an interesting one, Wes. Why did it happen?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Well, if the Panthers had the highest sack percentage allowed to edge rushers last year, and if you watch their games, that comes as no surprise. Their tackles were terrible. Also, I think as much as people criticize this trade, because Trey Turner has been probably a more reliable, better player than Ruslo Coon, you have no idea what Matt Roald, the new coach, wants in his guard. It could be that Tray Turner doesn't fit that system, especially at $9 million or whatever. So go get your left tackle, and they must have information that Russell Okung's recent health
Starting point is 00:16:21 problems will not be problems in 2020. I just think like Tray Turner being much younger gives the Chargers. To me, I give the win to the Chargers, and I think that Tom Telesco pulled off a nice deal. And I read that from the Carolina side that it was Pat Meyer, their O-Line coach, who used to be with the Chargers, who lobbied hard for this trade. So it tells you your assistant coaches have a lot of power under Matt Rule to help shape the roster. Plus the Panthers, they're trying to trade anyone on their roster by some reports, including like Christian McCaffrey. I mean, I think they're willing to totally blow it up.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And Russell Kung's $13.5 million this year, like it's a reminder that Matt Herney, who was the GM, drafted a left tackle and Greg Little in the second round next year, and now that picks just kind of like a waste. It's tentative because all deals are not official until the start of the new league year on March 18th. But this looks like it's happening, barring some type of medical situation. In other Chargers news, Austin Echler got paid. Rapsheet reported that the running back agreed to a four-year, $24.5 million contract extension. That includes $15 million and guaranteed money. ESPN had it first.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Good for Echler, Mr. Sessler, guy, who went from undrafted free agent to a key. to their offense, especially when Melvin Gordon's holdout extended last season. He established himself, Echler did, as a real playmaker behind. Yeah, I guess it's like, so Melvin Gordon out the door. And what I like is that, again, Tom Telesco and the rest of the coaching staff identified that Echler was just better when he was in there alone. When they were together, he was not the same guy. I love the fact that he's, he's, they got a good deal number one. 24.5 million is not, it's not a bad deal at all. He's still 24. And it kind of reminds, I'm not seeing the same player of watching Priest Homes when he was with the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And you could see, his numbers weren't all there, but you could see a player who was about to blow up. And when he went to Kansas City and they isolated him, allowed him just to do his own thing. He had three straight 14-hart, 1,400-yard rushing seasons with 206 catches over a three-year span. And I think that Echler is a dude that can do it all. And I love that they are going with him over Melvin Gordon personally. Holmes is like he's the forgotten superstar of that era. It didn't last very long, but he was one of the very best running backs in the league for a stretch there. This is a testament to development, sort of like James White with the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You come into the league and you're not a very good runner, and then you turn yourself into what I believe is the best passing down back in football last year. I mean, he had 92 catches for 993 yards. Like Robbie Anderson's never had anything close to that, and he's about to get paid triple this. And eight touchdowns receiving. That is double the amount of Christian McCaffrey. Alvin Camara turned 81 catches into 533 yards and one touchdown. Echler turned 92 catches into 993 yards and eight touchdowns. And I know Camaro was injured, but that is the guy we thought who was the best passing down back in the NFL last year,
Starting point is 00:19:24 and Echler played circles around him. There was some shatter that why did he take such a team-friendly deal? But that's the problem with being undrafted. You get, you kind of get hurt on both ends. Like, like he hasn't made much money in his career. He could have been a restricted free agent and gone out and maybe got an offer sheet that was better. But I don't blame him. He would not, you would not want to play one more season without a ton of guaranteed, like, life-changing money if you're him.
Starting point is 00:19:54 In other news, Trent Williams, the holdout left tackle, former all pro of the Redskins. It just doesn't look like it's going to happen with Williams in Washington. the Redskins are allowing him to seek a trade. Two teams have popped up that makes sense. Our team's Mark, the Cleveland Browns, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer report, the Browns will explore a trade for Williams and the Athletic reported that the Jets are one of the teams
Starting point is 00:20:18 also pursuing the left tackle. He is, when healthy, one of the best in the league, Greg, as a blindside protector. But he's been out of the league for a whole year now, essentially. He's in his third. There's some risk here, but it makes sense for a team that needs an instant upgrade, right? There's some risk, but he's played at like a borderline Hall of Fame level when he's played. And I think from other players, like when they talk about the best tackles in the game,
Starting point is 00:20:48 they sometimes say Trent Williams is like number one, like the number one most ferocious guy to try to get past. And the back injuries are a concern and the missed game. What about the brain tumor surgery? Right. It's all... I didn't find a helmet that would work last year. That is all like a concern, but you know how good he is. And the fact that tackles are lasting longer and longer, like it's a position that age.
Starting point is 00:21:07 31 is not old to me. The back injuries are a concern, but that's someone you could have for three or four years. Yeah, I mean, the Browns and Jets pick 10th and 11th. And I just wonder what the asking price is because... First round pick. I guess, I mean, Dwayne Brown also 31 when he was traded. That was a second and a fifth. Gara Fuller does not think there's any way they're getting the first.
Starting point is 00:21:27 In fact, he said the Redskins cannot believe they're getting a first round. Second and a fifth sounds... I mean, I'm just saying, if you're Cleveland or the... Jets. Both of them have been reportedly interested. The athletics of the Jets are one of the team's interest. I get it. I'm just saying you're looking at a really good tackle draft.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Said that. And you're going to give away the 10th pick for a 31-year-old player. Now, if you get five awesome years out of him, I don't care what the cost is. If you have a Hall of Fame level left tackle for five years, first-round pick is finally. And even if he's great for two years or even one and then he's okay for a few years. This is such a big year for both of the quarterback. of the Jets and the Browns. They need year three for all these guys
Starting point is 00:22:07 from that draft class is going to be important. Lamar Jackson is the only one that I'm like don't have to worry about him at all. But I think they want to see big progress here. You know, and I think to get a left tackle that they can trust and plug and play there, I get it. The trick is he'll be the high, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:25 he's not going to do it without becoming the highest paid tackle in the league. That's the whole point of the trade. That's the reason why he's not going back to the Redskins. Apparently they kind of settled the off-field stuff, but he says you've got to make me the highest-paid tackle in the league. So it's a big commitment, but it's what are the Jets doing with all this cap-space? They got $80 million in cap-space.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Just spend it. I would be surprised if somebody makes him the highest-paid tackle in the league. I think you're really downplaying the risk here. Jadavon Clowny wants to be among the highest-paid players in the league. And Ralph Vakiano of SNY reports that the impending free agent is, quote, interested in playing for the Giants. Clowny is, what, top three on your free agent list, scientists? He's number three, I believe.
Starting point is 00:23:11 With Chris Jones kind of taken off because he was tagged or reported that he's going to be tagged. As we talked about back in Indianapolis, Mark another situation, like Trent Williams, where you're going to have to pay top of the line potentially for a guy that, I don't know, the injury risk and the production is it going to be there is going to match up with the salary? Well, Vachiano did question
Starting point is 00:23:34 Wachiano, Ralfi, did question whether the G-Men would be willing to be willing to part with $22 to $23 million per season for that kind of a player. Does that feel like a Dave Gettlement
Starting point is 00:23:45 type move? Erica, can you tell Colleen that her... You think it does? He's the hoggist up the molly with the glass. Yeah? You can hear her laugh.
Starting point is 00:23:52 She's so loud. Really? Yeah, we can hear her cackling and yelling. If she's got to be honking that loud, it might as well be on a mic. Be useful. I can't listen to what you guys are saying
Starting point is 00:24:02 because she's like talking. Colleen, stop talking. I was on a yacht. Our producer can focus. Yeah, she was like, oh. Oh, yacht rock. Fun. Anyway, go on, guys.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I have nothing more to add. I don't know. You got to you guys? He does seem like a Gettelman guy. He's the hoggest of the Mollies, isn't he? I think Gettlement is just going to spend terrible money after terrible money. Yes, everything is going to.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I mean, Clownie's good. I think they're going to spend it on. Leonard Williams, he's going to be tagged or get a huge deal. And they're just going to spend all the money because they know they're all going to be fired in a year if it doesn't turn out. The Seahawks are a smart organization. And if they're not going to be aggressive to pay the guy, and they are desperate for defensive line.
Starting point is 00:24:43 They are reportedly pretty in the cloudy business. They want them. I guess we'll see. We'll see if that actually plays out. But if they don't put up much of a fight, if I was a lesser GM, I'd be like, why aren't the Seahawks wanting to keep this guy? It feels like a 90s blockbuster movie.
Starting point is 00:24:57 We want to be in the clowny business. Finally, in the green blotter, mentioned the Jets. My boy, Quinn and Williams, who's, by the way, by all accounts, a really good dude and down-to-earth, sweet guy just finished up his rookie year, the number three overall pick last year, arrested at LaGuardia Airport. First of all, I can't imagine anything worse than being in a LaGuardia airport jail cell. The worst airport in the world. And now you're in a jail cell in the worst airport in the world. All right. according to pro football talk port authority police revised earlier statement now say
Starting point is 00:25:29 quinnon williams did not have ammunition near a gun at time of airport arrest well that's great but that's a big deal i just i just think it's pretty crazy uh that this happens occasionally how are these guns in the luggage and why are we taking guns on planes you can't take a gun on a plane quinn i immediately thought of plaques because of new york's harsh gun laws and there could be repercussions here. But if you're a millionaire athlete, I think you're more interested in security than you are if you're a podcast host. Oh, yeah, I agree. But you also, I'm saying, I don't, I'm not saying I'm judging him for having a gun. And it's a licensed gun. I don't think Plaxes was licensed. It's licensed in Alabama, not in New York. That was the problem. Well, that, that is a problem.
Starting point is 00:26:10 But it's more the idea of, there's pretty solid in terms of common sense laws that people knows, and one of them is that you can't take a gun on a plane. How does it happen? Personally, if I were walking around, what was the type of weapon, A.K., something? It wasn't an A.K. Well, I mean, I would fact-check whether or not I'm allowed to get on to an aircraft with that before. I mean, I'm not a gun guy either, but it was not an A.K.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Well, I don't know. The gun laws are so strict that, that difference that he doesn't have the gun, he didn't have any ammunition in the bag, according to the revised press release, could change what the minimum sentence is. Like, supposedly the minimum sentence, if you do have ammunition and the gun is prison. You know, it's years of prison. Three years.
Starting point is 00:26:52 But Mike Garifolo pointed out, Day Juan Bowers had literally the exact same story happened to him, a Bucks defensive end. LaGuardia gun, ammunition in the bag, but not in the gun. And he didn't, you know, he faced the hefty fine, but he ended up not facing any jail time and not any league suspension. By the way, worst airport, I'm going L-A-X with literally no reservations. Really?
Starting point is 00:27:16 I cannot. whenever anyone says to me you're just wrong you're wrong well whenever anyone says to me can you come pick me up at LAX like a wave of like trauma goes through me I don't want to deal with it I could as far as the LaGuardia is like third world LACS
Starting point is 00:27:32 is awesome and that it's not awesome some gates are much much better than others at LAX but LaGuardia is a disaster LAX is over maxed like they need help and they're trying to address it good LAX talk guys go stand in Logan Boston Logan you're in security lines
Starting point is 00:27:47 for three hours. That's wicked terrible. I'm always surprised by how quickly I get through security at L-A-X, that's right. Oh, Sessler with a take-down. I'm saying what I really cannot stand is, you know, it's like, hey, it's L-A-X.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Bring your guns. We love it. Hey, oh, you want an Uber out of L-A-X? Here, get on a hideous bus packed with 460 people's bags up at the front of the bus. Everyone is sweaty and angry. It takes you 17 minutes
Starting point is 00:28:12 to get to this ridiculous parking lot three miles away, and then you've got to wait in line for 30 minutes to get in an Uber. I mean, it is one of the least functional exit strategies of any airport I've ever experienced them. I like the cab, bro. If the NFL is playing, just take the cab. You don't have to wait.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Pay a little extra. When they're paying. I think they've done a nice job, but they're Uber. All right. That'll be fine. That's, you know what? I'll probably be frisked next time I try to get out of that airport. And speaking of a Jets defensive linemen in trouble, Mo Wilkerson arrested for DWI, possession of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He got arrested last June also. Oh, man. He went from one of the best defensive linemen in football to completely out of the league And that's just sad I think curb your enthusiasm has shown you What a few years with the Jets does to the fans But also maybe some of these defensive people
Starting point is 00:29:00 Perhaps perhaps That's what's happening in the news All right let's I guess because it was decided by Phil Specter That we have to spin the carousel Here's the headline 2020 NFL QB Carousel Colin best slash worst case scenario for 15 big names in limbo
Starting point is 00:29:20 This was the germ of this The germ article idea came out of In real time on this podcast last week And I just counted out how many quarterbacks That we knew Had some type of state of limbo And it actually grew since then
Starting point is 00:29:37 I think it was 13 to count then It got up to 15 We got Jimmy G involved now I'm going to pitch a ranking of airports to I'll leap on party after this. Airport, Carousel. You've worked with them for seven years and you can't get his last name right still.
Starting point is 00:29:50 I mean, at some point, that's disrespectful. I'm waiting to see the... Or worse. The luggage Carousel Carousel rankings. Nailed it. So, I went through these 15 quarterbacks and I laid out a best-case scenario, a worst-case scenario,
Starting point is 00:30:06 and then a most-likely scenario. So it is striking that there's this many guys that have some level of indecision around them. And then some people on Twitter, some people say I miss people. I left Josh Rosen off the list. But, you know, whatever. Come on. Josh dealing with his own stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I mean, he's going to make him to start. Flacco made the list, which I felt was generous. So you could have knocked his down a former Super Bowl MVP. Marcus Marriota, I did not put on the list. But I mean, yeah, I mean, you could say Marcus should be on this list. But I think Marcus, you know, I don't have much respect for the game of Mr. Mario. He's, you know, he's a factor in one of these other guys's names. But we'll get to him.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Okay. So how do we want to attack this, boys? Was there any names? Yeah, go ahead. Well, I'll also start because Mariotto was in the news today related to the third guy on your list, Derek Carr. And I think somewhere between your best case scenario for Derek Carr, which is just, you know, they believe in him and that he can move in to the house he bought in Vegas. And the worst case, which is Brady arriving and cars just for sale, is a middle ground where Mike Garifolo reports they're more likely to go after kind of a veteran backup, go the, Tana Hill 2019 Titans route,
Starting point is 00:31:16 and he mentioned specifically that they are definitely interested in Marcus Mariotta, and that they might have competition for Marioada. I think some teams out there probably look at Marioada and think, hey, if he comes at a bargain price, this is absolutely a guy worth taking a swing on. Mayok had Marioada as his number one quarterback in that draft.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Gruden sung songs about him on, you know, the QB... What was that show? Whatever it was. QB Hangout with John... That was an impact. close. Grudes in the cubes. That's what it should have been.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Grudes in the cubes. And so that kind of is like a 1B where a car is somewhere in between. Like a guy who's like on his trail. Derek Carr and Marcus Mariotta as my two choices. Well, car's the starter and Mariotta is the guy who, if things go poorly, at least we have another guy. If you're Derek Carr, you say, bring it on. Yes, that would be a, that's the new best case scenario.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Or it also means the Raiders know they can't get Tom Brady. I threw in as the most likely scenario that. They do stick with him, but is Mike Mayock for a second year at the controls and he's this draft maestro? Is he going to be able to resist taking a quarterback? That's his guy. I kind of see a young guy coming in and that being a major issue for Mr. Carr unless he plays out of his mind in 2020. I mean, I think this has been an extremely annoying and uncomfortable month for Derek Carr, and it's only getting worse. He bought that house in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Right next door to Gruden. I mean, right next door to Gruden. Oh, my. Who didn't see that as trouble coming? goes to the new Allegiance Stadium in Vegas and he breaks ground or whatever, he cuts the ribbon. I didn't check out the telecast of it. Yeah, he was part of that
Starting point is 00:32:52 whole thing. He's trying so hard to just ingratiate himself and put him into this team's future, but we'll see if he really is. Well, it's because of like the specifics of some of these reports, because there's this vacuum of news. There was a report from a longtime Raiders beat writer
Starting point is 00:33:07 that Mark Davis is not a fan of Derrick Carr, that if it was up to Mark Davis, that he might be part of the reason these stories are getting out there that, you know, he wants something better. Like, he's sick of it. And so now you know the owner who, by the way, dragged you, not draft, you know, brought you to Vegas for this dog and pony show wants you out of there. I'd be annoyed.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Well, the worst scenario with the draft in Vegas is, of course, Derek Carr will probably be there, you know, with Raiders fans and all this other stuff. And we've seen this full uniform. You've seen this happen before where, like, quarterback is at, you know, draft location and draft location team attached to that draft location with the bears. I'm referring, of course, to the Bears draft party with Mike Lennon and the Tazanine level of fans. I just think that we're, you know, this worst month for Derrick Carr could become a worse, two months for Derek Carr. Even worse scenario would be like if Joe Burrow or one of the picks, like, has a rough night in Vegas the night before and like falls off one of those boats on the way of getting drafted.
Starting point is 00:34:02 The boats. Where is it, the Blasio? They're taking a little boat up to the, up to the front. Where is the draft at? Does anybody know? I do not. I mean, I know where it's in Las Vegas. That's as far as I can tell you. I meant it like a location. Ricky, do you know?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Vegas. Cool. She's like listening to music back there, barely paying attention to the shit. So it's like a normal. All right, spin the carousel, Ricky. Somebody else is going to bring up, I have 15 quarterbacks here.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I got one. Okay, Wes. It is at the Bellagio. The one I think, here's one I think that you, your analysis is spot on. Okay, good. The most likely scenario for Chigobi Brisset.
Starting point is 00:34:39 His days as a starter are numbered. If it's not rivers, It will be someone else. And my sense from sitting there at the press conference with Chris Bauer is that they love Jacoby Brissette the person, but they're ready to bring in another quarterback. And if it's not Philip Rivers, then you're going back to the Frank Wright-Nick-Fouls connection
Starting point is 00:34:58 or even Jason Michael, their tight-ends coach, used to be the offensive coordinator and quarterback's coach for Marcus Mariotta in the Titans. Ooh. And if you bring in a Foles or a Marioita, it would not surprise me if Brist's. that hangs on to the job and against all odds hangs on to the job. But if you bring in Rivers, I think he's done.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think it's a good point to, you know, note that Brissette could be there with whoever they bring in because so much of his money's guaranteed and they have so much. He's a great backup. So much cap room. I mean, they're paying him starter money so that's uncomfortable. But if they're stuck with it anyways, why create another hole on your roster? I believe it's more than like $15 million or $14 million. I mean, all he did was do excited.
Starting point is 00:35:42 what they asked when they were thrown into total chaos. I mean, speaking of Capspace, they are right behind, I believe, the Dolphists are the most in the league. So they can, they could probably afford to carry that through the short term. His, uh, yeah, he has $13 million in, in 2020 pay still coming. I think attached to that, the Nick Foll's scenario is intriguing to me just because... Spin it. Well, it's, spin that thing. Spin that wheel.
Starting point is 00:36:06 It's a wheel. It doesn't sound like a wheel. It's a carousel. Sounds like a war zone. What do you do with Nick Foles? Because I think he's completely untradable. Colleen, wrestle her away from the motherboard, please. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Love it. What is Colleen doing back there? It is undetermined. I mean, I can't get to be on it from what I'm seeing. That makes sense. I mean, I told her to come about to 20 of. Okay. And she did right on time, even a little bit early.
Starting point is 00:36:42 but she seems to be in good spirits. Yeah, she's feeling good. She's saying how that she doesn't have to take an Uber from L.A.X and that a black car picks her up. Well, exactly. See, I'm just, I am from the earth and I'm a normal person. From the proletariat. Or crew from the ground.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like a tulip. She's back there building that puzzle. All right. Nick Falls, go ahead. I think you've got to keep them because I'm a huge Gardner Minshu guy and I think he's the better quarterback. Yeah, I think he's the dude. Come on.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I know, I know. You have to, we live in a world where these second-year quarterbacks, like, look at last season. Look where we were last year with Baker, Mayfield, and Sam Darnold. Things can change quickly. And look at Nick Folls, things change quickly. Suddenly, your career is in free fall. And you mentioned that if anything, if he got stuck with a, if they shipped into a disastrous team with a bad offensive line, he starts to rethink about retirement again.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And it's like, what is a good landing spot for a quarterback that I personally, again, I love Nick Foles, the person, great guy. like Philly's the best place that I could pick for. Oh my God. What a soap opera that way. I know. It's just that Tampa would be good. As a starter though?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Maybe. I mean, for a backup. Well, here's the thing. You're right. He is untradable at that salary. But which is 15.1 million. I mean, he has a much bigger. But they had to eat the money.
Starting point is 00:37:59 The Jax have to eat half the money. If they trade him, they actually get some cap savings. They get $3 million in cap savings. And they get rid of it. And they solve sort of the problem. If they have them on their roster, they can't cut him. Like, cutting is not an option.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So I could see a scenario where a team, maybe even in April, after everything dies down a little bit, like the Bucks or the Chargers or some team that wants a backup says, if you pay half his salary, like, we'll take Nick Falls for nothing. And that's what, that's all Tannahill was. Tana Hill, they cut his, the dolphins were so, you know, willing to get rid of Tiana Hill. They paid half his salary and they gave him away for nothing. It was a 6th to 7th round swap.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think Foles would be a great pickup at that price because it's all about buy low, sell high. Like he still has value. It was a terrible year. He had a terrible year. He got injured. He didn't play well. But I guess I, with Foles, like,
Starting point is 00:38:54 maybe he's never going to be just the guy for a team. But I wouldn't use last year as the be-all-end-all in terms of deciding- You can look at all his other years when he's been put in there as a starter for more than a month. And it's either injury or it's- He had like 27 touchdowns and two interceptions. I mean, he had one big year and then he had one huge postseason.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I would be very dubious about selling him to a fan base or to my own coaching staff as your starting quarterback. Right, needs to be in the right system. And I don't think he's going anywhere as an unquestioned starter. It's basically just how desperate is Jacksonville to get rid of him? I think they might be pretty desperate to get rid of him, and then you can get him for cheap. And of all the best case scenarios I have on this list,
Starting point is 00:39:32 his is kind of the softest. I think the best case for him is that he is in a camp battle with Minchu, And I think based on what we heard at the Combine, based on a point that you've made that where the league's going with quarterbacks, it just feels like Minchu would be the, you know, heavy favorite to win that job.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And that feels like his best case scenario right now. Yeah, he's tricky for a trade to another team. If you're an established quarterback for another team, Nick Fools is such a good guy that you're like, okay, that will, that's cool. And then you realize that the media is going to try to have him taking your job every other day because he's Nick Fools,
Starting point is 00:40:05 former playoff MVP. Right. I think Philip Rivers is an interesting guy to talk about. Spin it. Spin it. Stop talking to Colleen. I can hear you. Because he's probably going to end up with the colds.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That's what I hope for. I love Philip Rivers. It's like my two sons last night, Jack and Harrison, for whatever reason, decided they wouldn't go to bed last night. It just decided to, like, already and talk to themselves. And all of a sudden it was like 10.30 at night. It was two hours past when they usually go to bed. And there's really nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:40:35 You can't make them go to sleep. that's how you end up in jail. So you basically keep going back then. You're like, go to sleep. It's time to go to sleep. I will take away this in the morning. You won't do this this weekend. But you can't make them.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And you just kept on hearing them at the end of the hallway. That's what it is again now with Erica and Colleen. I feel like I'm right back in yesterday. You know what they used to do back in the day? You know, parents, yeah, people used to do back in the day. You know, slip them a little like, a little whiskey. Actually, Mickey was for a different reason. We'll take whiskey back here.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Whiskey and, oh, you're telling you. One of you, apparently. has plenty of it in you. That would be a thing. You'd take whiskey and you put it in the gums of the child. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:12 There you go. But that's, you know, they say to do that for airline, airline travel as well. I wonder with River. If Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:41:19 didn't happen, is there a chance that he doesn't get an attractive job? And that he does consider a Monday night football option.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Because I don't think Philip Rivers wants to be competing with someone anywhere. I don't think he wants to be entering a scenario where it's, like him and, hey, but we might draft someone in the top five.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Like, if the Colts didn't work out, is there a chance he could retire? I think Tampa would jump on that. I do too. I see him as a locked and loaded starter with someone. I hope so. Even if it's not the Coles. Does he want to be an announcer? Or is that just being thrown about?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Supposedly ESPN had some interest, but no one's... It's nice to have options. Verified that. I did include Flacco on this, and he is a guy, he would be a guy, he would be very concerned, just like pie in the sky is the best case scenario. I thought Ariens could be like, oh, he's kind of like Carson Palmer. He's a big veteran guy that could throw the ball downfield and all that stuff. It is amazing to see Jimmy G. second on this list.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah, it is pretty wild. But, Mark, it did cause me to do a search of Flacko's aborted Johnny Unitas biopic screenplay, which you wrote around the league post on in 2000. Not only I, but we, you know, the around the NFL team was all over this story. Trench and beat here. We were all over this. And Wes, you know, months later wrote a sizzling full. follow-up, which got into why that vehicle, that movie vehicle, did not happen.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Wes, why did the Unitas Flacco biopic fall part? There was a brother feud. John Unitedis son John Jr. was angry at Joe Unitas, who I believe was his son from a second marriage for this film. And John Jr. said of Joe in this movie, it is awful. The guy's a turd. Whoa. Flacco?
Starting point is 00:43:05 No. Joe Unitas He never talked to me He never talked to any of the first five children He's a guy that's just making money off my father You know where I'd send Flacco Although the Falcons just re-upped with Matt Schaub Which I don't get
Starting point is 00:43:21 Why is Matt Schab still the backup to Matt Ryan? This is this bothered me like three years ago And it goes on And it looked pretty good in that one game last year I got to say I mean what but Flacko could land behind someone like Matt Ryan and I'd be like, nice landing spot for both sides. Or he lands at the old, you know, screen actors Guild Theater just down the road.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I mean, when I think charisma and leading man qualities, I think Joe Flacco. Yeah, and he was just going to do the football part, right? He wasn't going to, he wasn't going to actually play United States. I thought he was just for the on-field stuff. I mean, United is. I don't think he was, he has to see, his father. Oh, it's so much less interesting. No, in the article that I wrote, Joan Flacco's own father said this is a terrible idea.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And he's mentioned this, my son has no. charisma and he's dull. Oh. No, I think he was going to play. But you know what? Johnny Unitas was kind of known as, you know, famously taciturned, no, charisma. You know, not a lot of... Wait, no.
Starting point is 00:44:13 That's not how you want to build a movie for that. Come on. Come on. You know, it was just on... Let's think one more spin. No, trust Greg. Okay. Because I feel like, you know who's gotten forgotten and all this?
Starting point is 00:44:24 What is happening to James Winston if the Bucks really do want to move on, which it sure sounds like it really sounds like the Bucks and Arians are just kind of over it. Another backup. He is not a... starter at this point. Although he does these amazing things, but he also, you're going to find seven to nine. I could see him in a very messy backup situation with Derek Carr in Vegas. That just seems like something John Gruden will just like love the chaos of it all. I like that. I would take Winston in that battle over Carr. Yeah. I think he'd end up winning now. And Tom Brady's at the
Starting point is 00:44:58 top of the list for a reason. He's the big domino. Everything falls after Brady. There was a report this week that He finally spoke on the phone with Belchek. It didn't go well, right? It didn't go well. People. I don't know. Well, you know, come on, Gregie. Come on, Gregie.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You got to handle this. Don't let this get messy, Greg. It would matter if it went really well. That would be a, we'd be a different universe. I told you, I'm hanging out on Jared Stidham Corner, and there are open lots available. There's just tumbleweeds going through. Like, we're going to have some businesses eventually, but like the land is cheap. Jared Stidham Corner, like, come on over.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Let's ride with Stittam. This is, you know, it's disappointing to hear that, Greg. This is the greatest player of all time. He's brought you so much joy in millions of New Englanders that they are going to do Tom Brady dirty like this. They're not doing it. Now, your organization is not always, they have not always compartmental to them.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's not my organization. But if they watch this and they make this an ugly divorce, shame on them. Yeah. This is Tom Brady. I mean, there is no. This is Drew Bledsoe. There is no scenario where he's playing for another team.
Starting point is 00:46:02 This is Tony Easton. And it's not in some way ugly. Right. He wanted the freedom to choose his own team. That's why they said they haven't really been that worried about him going out and testing other teams. Because it's like that's what he wanted. He can go do it and we'll see. Well, it looks like Belichick is giving him a little bit of a what for as damage.
Starting point is 00:46:22 He's not going to, I don't think Belichick's going to kiss the ring and I don't think Tom Brady would expect him to. He should, though. I'm sorry. This guy is different than everybody else. Think Belichick likes some FaceTiming with the Titans Coach months after the Titans defeated Brady in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:46:37 That's his teammate, former teammate. Yeah, but it's, come on. I don't know. I don't know. Belichick doesn't even probably understand how to connect a FaceTime call. How about hanging out with that Fallon character? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 A little eyebrow raising. I got you on that. Real quick, before we get Connie in here, best case, worst case, most likely for Garapolo. Best case, Brady reports are just smoke. Garapolo is the man in San Francisco. case, Niners Land Brady, Garapolo gets shipped out of town. I said it for a first-round pick.
Starting point is 00:47:06 What do you think Garapolo's value would be on the open market for as a trade? That's a first and more. This year's different because it's a buyer's market. Right. What team? The Patriots? I mean, best case scenarios, he leads the Patriots to a Super Bowl. What about Jared Steadham Corner?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Tom Brady. What about a Jared Steadham Corner? Hey, look, if you didn't count on any buildings really sprouting up around Stidham Corner. Just wait a see. So look how quickly you. You're on Jaredson corner for literally like two and a half minutes. I mean, the weeds are going to stand. If Jimmy G is open and available and not too expensive, sure, then you're right.
Starting point is 00:47:40 How about Jimmy G to the cults? Why are you signing up with an age-old Philip Rivers? You could have Jimmy G. I think that makes more sense. Remember when Stead and played last year? And then Belichick was like, I better go sign Cody Cessler for the next month or two. Why is Cody Cessler not on this list? He didn't make the cut.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Neither did Gino. Wow. Yeah, stuck it to Greg on that. I mean, it would have been weird if he was on there. All right, let's bring her in. Let's wheel her in. Who knows the condition she's in right now. What a night she had, according to some of these texts we got.
Starting point is 00:48:13 At the yacht. The yacht club? It was a yacht rock concert. Erica really doing a bang-up job. It's producing Colleen's knocking chairs over, carrying her own chairs, a tiny box. Look at Greg. This gentleman.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Look at this white knight on his horse. Greg wheeling the, took the heads out. This is happening on national, international women's day that Greg is lifting a chair over Dan to give to Colleen. Very nice. Erica's just passed out at the board right now. That is, that is. Erica's not like a soft contract holdout right now. Don't even know.
Starting point is 00:48:48 She's at work, but she's not really working. All right. Get this. What time does the pod start? 130? What are you doing? You're rubbing a microphone on the podcast, Wes. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Doesn't sound good, Wes. Doesn't sound good This is a mess All right here we are Colleen, welcome to the show Hey, thanks for having me This is the grand finale I walked into a trap
Starting point is 00:49:07 But it's fine In what way Because you were like Well you could just come For the last segment Or like if you want And I'm like yeah cool That's great
Starting point is 00:49:15 And then I hear You've been disparaging me Yeah I buried you a little bit Well No I just said that It's a bad job I had a host to disparage You guys
Starting point is 00:49:22 You guys came to the yacht rock Concert Yeah it was a lot of fun At the Wiltern It was a lot of fun It was amazing Was it real bands or was it covers It was a cover band
Starting point is 00:49:31 Oh that's fun I thought you were on a boat A physical boat No but I felt like I was at points Okay That Christopher Cross song was taking me places Man I went a lot of places Last time we saw Colleen was at the Waffle House
Starting point is 00:49:44 At around 450 in the morning in Indianapolis Waring the same outfit I believe No I just wear the sweatshirt a lot Okay Connie Let's just above the tree tops as they say as we now we reach the finals
Starting point is 00:49:59 and we're going to be choosing your own song you've had a career that's really gone through the roof there's no glass ceiling with Connie Fox and on National Women's Day
Starting point is 00:50:09 we celebrate what you've been able to do and build a career international All women around the world Global Woman's Day this has to be near the top of your accomplishments
Starting point is 00:50:19 that you're about to have your own song It's this between this and having NFL network live from my old neighbor Bar for game day morning. Oh, wow, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:50:29 That's like one A, one day. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's better. What was the bar? New Wave. If anybody wants to, just a taste of the Connie life.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Yeah. Connie and Gonzo, I'm sure, spent many hours. Our pictures on the wall in there. Head over to New Wave. Get your picture in front of the picture of Connie and Gonzo and send it our way and we'll shoot a retweet. Yeah. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:50:52 What are our chances of doing a live hit next year from the Irish Times? I would say probably low. Is that our home bar? All right. I'm just, you know, get a chance as any around here. We have five finalists, and this is how we're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Of the five finalists, and Erica, this is when we're going to reveal the names of the composers, and it would be great, potentially even get the winner on the phone if we can make that happen. I don't know if that's a possibility. But we're going to listen to each of the songs
Starting point is 00:51:22 one more time, and now I don't want anyone to reveal what their choice is. When I say, everyone write down your choice, one through five. There's five finalists. And then I will, uh, Ricky will also write down her choice. So it's the five of us in the studio that get one vote. Ricky gets a vote and the listeners voted, um, this week. In fact, 25,000 people voted.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Whoa. That's, that's, that's incorrect. Two million people voted. Two point five million people voted. Remarkable. And, uh, whatever the number was, you guys came out and drove to pick a song which is funny and great so they get a vote so the listeners get a vote Erica gets a vote the heroes get a vote and Colleen honorary hero as well gets a vote so that is
Starting point is 00:52:07 there all right it's seven no tie is necessary nailed it right no it still could be a tie you know oh sure yeah that's right but here's how you break the tie if we have a tie since it's calling song Colleen you will choose oh it could be three songs in a tie a deadlock right pocket veto have you talked about the prize yet? Could it be three songs in a deadlock? Wait, there's seven total votes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 How could you have a three-way time with seven? If two, two, two, one? Two-one. All right. Well, I should not be answering math questions. I'm flying. I'm not in last place right now. Yes, Colleen, we had talked about what will be the grand prize for the winner of this
Starting point is 00:52:48 contest, and why don't you let the listeners know? Well, there can only be one amazing prize given out, and that, of course, has to be. a puzzle. I mean, if you guys are writing these songs, the best gift I could give to you is one of the puzzles that I completed. Yeah, just not any puzzle. No. It's a special puzzle. And what makes it so special? Because there's a lot of weird animals smiling on it. And also it made the song and we all signed it. I put together some pieces so we can get that going. Yes, we're all going to sign this puzzle. It's already featured on the around the NFL Instagram page, I believe, this puzzle. The iconic Connie Weird Animals puzzle.
Starting point is 00:53:27 that she put together during one of her many off hours a couple weeks back. That's the prize. Plus, maybe you'll be on the show. Purchased by Gonzo, too. So Gonzo's touched it with his own hands. And ORA. Is Gonzo now at this point aware of the song contest? He is.
Starting point is 00:53:43 He was like, I saw something about songs. Does he know he's been dialed in? No, I don't think he knows that. That's tweet. All right. So, all right, Erica, are you, do you have any thoughts, questions? No, we can. We can get on.
Starting point is 00:53:57 We're all on the same page with us. Got to stick the landing on this one. So we're going to listen to the five songs. Again, we'll talk about the songs after each one, but do not reveal what your choice is. And then... Well, we have to rank them one to five. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Just your winner. Just your winner. Here is song one. Who is the name of the artist? This is... And where are they from? Dylan Stein from Denver, number one. This one's for Dylan.
Starting point is 00:54:27 on the show Tiny box is ready to go So that's the Saint Lucia Yeah, that we're like, gorgeous Tame in Palau maybe I'll sing. Maybe a little MGMT, maybe. Probably as strong, just like a sound in production as any of them. And it reminds me the most of, and I don't know if this is a positive, of like the Damashek
Starting point is 00:55:07 intro type songs. Oh. Oh, like Dick Banks, the one-man-house-old. A little Dick Banksy. Okay. Got to think about the fact that you're going to listen to this roughly 500,000 times over the next couple of years. Does that song have a title?
Starting point is 00:55:18 Oh, Colleen's never been on the show. No. Okay. So that was Dylan from Denver. I like that song. It reminds me of drinking with Sessler for some reason, specifically. Man, that's not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I can see that. It's a favorite of mine too. It's a bit of a woozy banger. A woozy banger. All right, number two. Number two is Joe D. Prospero from Jersey. Okay. Love this, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Her heart's is big ass Philly. She likes to act so silly. We like to call her tiny box. Tiny box, tiny box, tiny box. I have four words to make your day. Cutty Fox is here. Cotty Fox is here. The history is rich.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Braid. Connie Fox is here. Cutty Fox is here. Guitar. This feels like a sitcom. Right. And I'm like coming in. I'm spilling coffee.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It very much sounds like an intro. You turn to the camera and smile. The tone is correct. All right. That song is Connie Fox is here by Joe D. from Jersey. Or great production too Like the little touches
Starting point is 00:56:28 It was a great version And Joe I Well you know what I don't want to say I'll say afterwards All right Song number three All right
Starting point is 00:56:37 Three is Greg Scamato From L.A Piz on Some folks call her Connie Fox Others say it's tiny box But no matter You know who they mean
Starting point is 00:56:51 Do they mean She's here today on ATN Talking with your favored man NFL's lone wolf her name's collie golly wolf god of fox I do really like that one that one's beautiful little soggy bottom boys
Starting point is 00:57:08 soggy bottom boys again amazing production value you know and it's the own thing I like it it sounds like an intro for Wes I would say that's the only maybe small interesting I knew my name would come up because you guys think I'm a hayseed and I always talk with grass coming out of my teeth so anytime you do you are dressed like I are the cable guys We're wearing a Huckapoo's hat right now, too, which is perfect.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I know, I picked the right show for it. West is Southern. What are these tall buildings? What are your thoughts about that country song, Mark? I liked it a lot. I mean, also the artist is right here in Los Angeles, so if I were to vote against it, he could potentially find my house. Well, it's also, these are the finalists.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like, there's no more trash talking. That's a great one, though. All deserving. Yeah, go ahead. I hate to be a stickler, but to me, it's a little bit more bluegrass and not country. That's fair. I'm going to say it's bluegrass. I like the twang.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I'm going to change it to bluegrass cotton. A little bent note beauty. And Mark, you'll appreciate this because you sent me a gift recently. I'm in a very, like, good Los Angeles place right now because I did a late night viewing of Magnolia last night, which is one of the great L.A. movies. So the fact that he's a local guy. I'm happy for you that you watch that. Watch out for those frogs coming from the sky today.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Yeah, the ending felt a little unnecessary. That was very 90s. I've never seen it. I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay. Paul Thomas Anderson. Maybe you should watch the movie. Dial-in on that?
Starting point is 00:58:27 Skip the first 15 minutes. It'd be fine. Not really, but you would... It's like the three hours in between. Yeah, it's got some good stuff, you know, couched in the middle. All right, we have two more. Here's the fourth option. Number four is Sam Stringfield from North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Is Magnolia catching heat? Go ahead. No, I love it. Steel magnolias, maybe. Connie's here. She's going to piece it all together. for us finally someone we can trust
Starting point is 00:58:59 Connie's here why are all these animals smiling what could they be hiding on the fox to solve the puzzle I mean he's probably the most deserving of the prize because he had the he was clairvoyant enough to put that in the lyrics about and had no idea that that was the prize
Starting point is 00:59:23 also it's a good point. Oh yeah. Also it's sounds like he's had a few to drink. He sounds like he's three, yeah, he's like three bands into the Yacht Rock show. Yeah, that's true. Makes me kind of like him more. He tapped into the Colleen weirdness. He really did. Two things on that.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I wish we could have. Am I missing something? What is the call? Why are these animals? Is that from one of your YouTube videos? It's the puzzle. It's the weird animals. Oh, why are these animals?
Starting point is 00:59:44 Oh. Why are they smiling? What are they hiding? Oh, okay. And also, multiple people on Twitter thought that that was our good buddy, Jason Zumwalt. but it is not Jason It sounds like Jay
Starting point is 00:59:56 But it is Sam Stringfield from North Carolina It's a bit of a hairy Chapin feel to it Could call us Totally Right And the final The final entry This is from Rick M from Seattle
Starting point is 01:00:09 Moranis Moranis There's a wolf, there's a wolf, there's a wolf, can't blow your house down. There's a wolf, there's a wolf, can't blow your house down. Don't mess with her, don't do it, don't do it stupid. Don't mess with it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it stupid. that one slaps it slaps
Starting point is 01:00:55 it captures I think like the last two I would say capture the essence of you in different ways yeah very different ways like ways
Starting point is 01:01:03 that are unspoken like that that song makes me think of Connie Wolf even with it even before the the rare Connie Wolf even before the words
Starting point is 01:01:11 come in Connie Tiny Box Wolf that is what's that song X I always like the title as well there's a wolf parentheses stupid all right it's fantastic
Starting point is 01:01:21 That's great. All right. Now, everybody, you have a note card in a marker in front of you. And it is time. I want you to hide your answers. Remember, it's like old Scantron test. Cover your paper. Cover your papers when you're done.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Flip, flip it over. And here are your choices. I don't want anyone to mistakenly choose the wrong one. Dylan from Denver, the Woozy Bangor and the St. Lucia vibe. Joe D. from Jersey. Connie Fox is here. Greg Astrom, L.A., the Bluegrass Connie song. Sam Stringfield from North Carolina
Starting point is 01:01:54 Connie Fox is here The Puzzle song Rick M from Seattle There's a Wolf stupid Okay I got a vote too I feel like Colleen's vote should count double That's the one I'm most curious about at least
Starting point is 01:02:09 I feel like the listeners though Their vote should probably carry more weight Because they got a listen to it Are you guys did you just put a number or? I just wrote down based off what you just told us I believe I had the number right I wrote that number Okay, you don't need to fold
Starting point is 01:02:24 Do you want our names on it? I don't want to fold it I just want a nice You're out of luck Smooth, a little late in the game now Do you want our names attached to this? No Okay
Starting point is 01:02:31 You could speak afterwards Why you chose what you chose Okay This is the moment, guys Oh my God, I'm nervous Did Erica walk in here? She did Missed it
Starting point is 01:02:41 She's very With a funny paper All right, let me do mine Okay, here we go All right, here we go This is why I was late I missed some sleep because of it I was thinking about it all night
Starting point is 01:02:53 Now this I am going Jeff Probst survivor style right now Okay I have each of the votes I'm going to shuffle them up I don't know who the winner is I don't know even know who the listener's choice was
Starting point is 01:03:07 You would like to be a probst Wouldn't you a host of Survivor I stand in all of your integrity throughout this whole process Thank you Christopher Hey, well, I know which one the listener is. Did you note that? Okay, I would like to know that.
Starting point is 01:03:22 All right. Here we go. It's time. Wes, can you tabulate? Oh, I'd be happy to. What an honor. Vote one. No hanging chads, please, Wes.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And the Connie Fox theme song sweepstakes goes two. Number four, Sam Stringfield. Connie Fox is here, the puzzle song. Vote two. Remember, seven votes total. Any tiebreaker, Connie breaks it. Okay. So Connie gets a vote and the potential tiebreaker.
Starting point is 01:04:07 So she really does have kind of potentially two votes. Greg. It's fair. What is that? is the listener's vote. What is that drawing? The listeners have selected Rick M from Seattle, there's a wolf.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Whoa. Okay. Was it close, Ricky? Very till the end, and then Rick M really ran a shot away. Between what? Between five and what? Five and... Okay. Three, she was about to say three.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Okay, here we go. We can know what the vote was. She's been muzzled. There's only one probes in the room. Respect the probes. All right, so we got one for five, one for four. vote three again
Starting point is 01:04:50 Sam Stringfield Connie Fox is here the puzzle song Wes your style two to one Allowing this up is interesting Now Greg you're good at math So we'll know at what point
Starting point is 01:05:03 Does it is it a win If someone has Four Four I mean when they have more votes You can play it out Than our left Yes
Starting point is 01:05:12 So right now we're a way is away from the magic number Okay Vote four. Yeah, don't get into an 80-clock scenario. Four is two, five as one. The rest are in trouble right now. Yep. Need something.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Need something right now. Big spot. To be a part of show history. Number four, Sam Springfield, the puzzle song. And now Sam Springfield, Stringfield. In a commanding position. Up to with four to go. Four to go.
Starting point is 01:05:45 But he gets one more and it's over, right? No, there could still be a tie between that and the... Four, if you have four? This is why Schrager loves him. Four out of seven. Oh, yeah. No. Let's take math out.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I was thinking that Connie got double. There's three votes and there's one for the rap song, so he could still tie, but he has to win out. I'm saying one more, he's got it. Yep. Take it to the bank. Bad job, baby. Five's going to need a massive comfort behind. I was thinking the Connie double.
Starting point is 01:06:14 The next. vote the fifth of how many you should you should seven votes total this is where you need to Jeff probes would know what the answer is the bill does this probe doesn't know number five oh Rick M there's a wolf that's got to be great good no I would this isn't a 20 to three scenario for I would not have such good handwriting this is Eric I believe so with two votes left let's break it down that's Colleen Colleen well we could say who we voted for Colleen voted for number Greg, there's only one probes in the room. Possibly allowed Dan to go through with the ex-office.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Man, stepping on his toes. Oh, my God. I knew it was Colleen immediately as well. Oh, don't you want to tell the list there? It's what we talk about after. After. Amazing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Oh, my God. I love it. So, eliminated, unfortunately. Dylan from Denver, number one. Joe D. from Jersey, number two, eliminated. Greg S. from L.A., the Bluegrass song, also eliminated. Trow. It's down.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Really good one, though. I know. It's down to Stringfield. Connie Fox is here, the puzzle song, and there's a wolf, parenthetical, stupid, closed parenthetical. Here we go. The sixth of seven votes.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Bluegrass song. Whoa. That's Wes's vote. Absolutely. It was the best one. Now, this is what it comes down to. If this is anything other than, well, if it's the Sam Springfield song,
Starting point is 01:07:40 it's over, but if it's any other song besides Rick M, it's also. it's also over and it goes to Stringfield Wait If it's five Then there's a tie Yes This needs to be Rick M to force a tie
Starting point is 01:07:52 Ricky This is it Scoreboard is really working here Will it be Connie Fox is here the puzzle song Or there's a wolf stupid We're about to find out Wes looks nervous
Starting point is 01:08:09 I'm just interested Dan's got me on to answer my seat here. Here it is. The final vote in the Connie Fox theme song sweepstakes goes to number five. We've got a turn. Rick M. from Seattle. There's a wolf stupid.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Wow. What a comeback. And you know what? As Greg ruined, we know that Colleen voted for number five. I did. Is Greg ruined? Totally ruined, but would have been a great tiebreaker. scenario.
Starting point is 01:08:45 So, Colleen, this is now your decision to make. Are you going to double up and it makes sense that you would, but maybe you would see that the Connie Fox is here at Puzzle song really pulled extremely well. The listeners chose your song. That's interesting. You know I am very susceptible to peer pressure, but in this scenario, I'm going to stand my ground. I'm going to double down and I'm going with number five.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Wow, and there it is. There's a wolf. Stupid by Rick M. from Seattle. That is your Connie Fox theme song Sweepstakes winner. Congratulations to Rick. What a moment. You are sympathetica with the listeners here. What a moment that I ruined.
Starting point is 01:09:30 That works. It's all right, Greg. Yeah, it did take a little air out of the blue. I mean, they built the coalition number five. You know, they got the listeners. That's broadband. They got the song. They got the person the song's about to get.
Starting point is 01:09:43 on board. That's the way to look at it. If you build a vote by, you know, getting different genres of people. I like that the song is vaguely threatening too because it's like,
Starting point is 01:09:52 don't mess with her. Like, I don't know what's going to happen if you do mess with her. On Global Woman's Day, especially for that to be the song. International, but that's, okay, isn't that the same kind of though?
Starting point is 01:10:01 I don't know. You're Jeff Probst. Should I try to get him on the phone? Yeah, let's get Rick on the phone and you guys are right because although my vote, all of West, you had the bluegrass song.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I guess obviously then Mark I had number four and Erica I think must have voted for Sam Stringfield's And that would have been my second choice if there was like You got to feel for him
Starting point is 01:10:23 because it looked like he had it in the back Well how did you read the cards in a different order He would have had the great comeback that ended in a tie But it looks like he was the Atlanta Falcons versus the Patriots A little bit of a 283 vibe for Sam
Starting point is 01:10:36 But we love your song And like I've said Even though there's only one winner And it is Rick M from Seattle There's a Wolf Stupid parenthetical. You'll hear some of these songs again, but there's only one official theme song.
Starting point is 01:10:49 There's only one person that gets the puzzle, the autograph puzzle, and only one man that potentially gets to join the around the NFL podcast heroes right now as Connie dials in. Colleen, final thoughts on what's been really, I'm sure, a heady day. Right of your life.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah, it's really been a stressful sort of experience. Like I told Ricky Hollywood, I didn't really ask for this, but then once it was bestowed upon me, I felt it was my duty to pick the best song, and I think that's what we did here today. Now, you are a noted hip-hop head. How huge was that,
Starting point is 01:11:23 that he went down that road using kind of a... what was a really solid hip-hop beat, had a good flow to it. That must have been really a deal-maker for you in a... Well, it was like he knew what I was thinking. It was like he was one with my brain, and I like the vibes that that whole song casts. I want that to be sort of the atmosphere when I walk in every single room.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's like a walk-up. It's like a walk-up song. And many other people tried hip-hop and none of them made the finals. So you had to, like, you had to be good. I like that we had so many different styles, so many different types of songs. Let's talk to Rick. Rick is on the line. Rick from Seattle, the winner of the Connie Fox theme song challenge.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Congratulations, Rick. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Hey, how's going. Thank you. a cat. Tell us how it happened, how this song came to you, and, you know, how excited you are right now, which I imagine is quite. So basically, I just heard the beat first, and then I just came up with it in about like 30 minutes, and then I just recorded it on my phone. And I sent it. Are you somebody that has a simple process? Do you have like a hip-hop background? Are you a recording
Starting point is 01:12:33 artist yourself, or is this just something you do in your own time? Yeah, so I got to do rap, all kind of music. Ooh. Very good. So we're feeling a ringer here. You want to throw a plug in here? I mean,
Starting point is 01:12:45 why not? Yeah, where can people hear more of your stuff? I actually haven't released anything yet. Well, yes, you have. Yeah. That's my first song.
Starting point is 01:12:55 It's a banger. It's a number one hit. What's it like living in a submarine according to the sound of your connection? I'm driving right now, so you're on speaker. You're on Bluetooth. I mean, we actually are pretty lucky.
Starting point is 01:13:07 We just caught them Without any warning, I believe, and here he is. Rick, how do you feel about puzzles? About what? Puzzles? Well, Rick doesn't know. One of the prizes you get is the autographed cat puzzle that colleagues put together. We all signed it, and we're going to send that your way.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I don't think there's any cats on it. Yeah, I haven't got puzzles in like 10 years, but I'm here. Nobody has. Yeah, your prizes you get to put together a 700-piece puzzle. No, but in all seriousness, Rick. It was awesome. We had so many great competitors and your song, we loved it immediately and you are
Starting point is 01:13:43 I imagine as a fan of the podcast forever now tied to the show and you're a part of the show's history. And you won the popular vote. You won the fan vote and you won Colleen's vote the two most integral votes. It came down to a tiebreaker but Colleen got two votes essentially and she chose your song. Did I tie with the Animal Collective guy or who was it?
Starting point is 01:14:04 You did. You tied with the The Connie Fox is here with the French horn and talking about the puzzle. The Animal Collective guy. I think Animal Collective played the first Super Bowl halftime shoot. I mean, everybody was great,
Starting point is 01:14:19 so I'm just happy that the fans show's mine. Is it either just to be nominated? Yeah, exactly. All right, Rick. And are you a Seahawks fan? Yeah, I think he also had. Do you want to drop a go-hawks before you sign off? Yeah, let's see.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Should I do the Russell Wilson voice? Yeah, please. It is. If you got it. Go hogs Great good Rick, thank you and Erica will be in touch with you
Starting point is 01:14:43 about getting you your amazing prize Rick from Seattle Congratulations Thank you guys Wow what a competition it's been And what a journey That we have now completed
Starting point is 01:14:55 And it is I think the only way to sign off the show If anyone has any other thoughts They want to throw in I would take the puzzle And hide it inside it Like all the pieces A giant bag of cocaine
Starting point is 01:15:07 So he's getting a little more than he bargained. Well, that's quite illegal, though. I mean, that puts him in danger as well because it's a... Put Tamposi in a weird spot. High-grade narcotic. Are you going to... Who's going to get it? I don't have access to a huge...
Starting point is 01:15:18 You're also working on the assumption that he would want the cocaine, which we know nothing to break up. I think he could sell it for a lot of money, and so suddenly the prize is... And now you're turning him into a drug mule, essentially. We should definitely put it in some flour, though, now. A little borax.
Starting point is 01:15:30 We're learning more about what Mark's been doing with this... No, just, you know what? No, just ship it up through L-AX. It's so easy to get it through. LAX is so convenient and easy for everyone. Just have no problems. All right, Rick. Well, be on the lookout and open it in private.
Starting point is 01:15:42 All right, thanks for listening to the Around the NFL podcast presented by Intuit QuickBooks official sponsor of the NFL. Let's say goodbye and play out the new official theme song of Colleen Wolf. This is Dan Hansa signing off for The Quiet Storm, the Mailman, Connie Fox, the Tiny Box, the old boss, and Rick Hollywood behind the glass. Monday. Hit it, Rick. I mean, when the bass drops.
Starting point is 01:16:20 There's a wough. I've got to go play this in the parking lot. It's growing on me pretty fast, too. It should start every Thursday night football like that. It's way better than Rianca song. And I like to be honest. This will get on TNF one time, I predict it. It better.
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