NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Big injuries, big contracts and BIG Announcement

Episode Date: July 27, 2018

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Marc Sessler & Chris Wesseling – give you an episode you cannot afford to miss! The heroes have a huge announcement about some big plans for the podcast. (01:47). They also talk all things off-season football including Jason Verrett’s season ending injury(10:29), Julio Jones’ deal with the Falcons (14:33), and a trip to the Dawg Pound to visit the Browns (32:01). Greggy Does Dallas Part II (49:53) and Marc talks about the blood moon to wrap up the show! (53:56)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast has better hair than O'Dell Beckham Jr. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Hansis, joined in a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethall. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Is that true?

I know you are very, your hair is celebrated widely, but I don't think that anyone else is walking around and thinking they have better hair than O'Dell Beckham. Better question. Does O'Dell Beckham have a good hair? We'll start there. I wouldn't do what he does with it, but he has a flexibility to do a lot of different things with his hair.

Yeah, he's got good hair, sure. He's flashy, he's got flashy hair. Wes, we'll go to you as a source of us. Hair's overrated. Hair overrated. There you go. That's the answer. It's not a surprising take from a man without any, but

Ball is beautiful, Greg. Yes, this is the Friday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. So much to get to today, some deals, including one of the best wide receivers in the league, gets paid or gets a little bit of a raise, another devastating injury for the Chargers to contend with. You can't believe that. and our buddy Greg Rosenthal was on a road trip yesterday so we're going to get to that a little bit later and then a little entry from Mark Sessler

a Mark Sessler entry I call it to close the show so a lot to get to but we've we've teased it long enough I mean I could send I could say or should we do it at the end of the show no no it is time It is time If you're a listener of the show And you've been waiting patiently since we first

Announce that This big fucking announcement For Ewee Signal's Rebirth It is time For

the big announcement that we've been wanting to make on this podcast for many many years an announcement that frankly this time last year I thought we'd never be able to make and yet now here it comes the around the NFL podcast is going to London. We did it.

We did it, Greg. Clap it up. Clap it up. Yes, it's official. You just touched Greg. Had to. Don't like to do it. Had to do it.

I like it less. I need that human emotion. To my right. Yes, it's finally happening. We have so. many thousands upon thousands of loyal listeners of the around the NFL podcast overseas all across the world really but in the UK the the fandom is particularly strong and in the first week of September this is coming up we will be in London and perhaps beyond London but in England for a full week leading up to the beginning of the 2018 season we're going to be doing what? We're going to be doing shows. Live show, hopefully. We're putting that together. We're going to be doing

an appearance. And what's that called? Piccadilly Square. Piccadilly Square. It's a big NFL event on the date, Saturday before the first NFL Sunday of the year, which will be a part of. Maybe like a Q&A, I think will be part of that. I think hopefully a live show at some point, maybe not in London. Little Sky Sports action. Yeah, see our good friends at Sky Sports. Visit the studios there. That's in the books, on the books.

And also, of course, we're going to do some meet and greets with the fans and maybe a bar or a tavern or two. A pub will be frequented. Some talk sport action with my friend Nat Coombs. A little Coombs. It's a jam-pack schedule. I mean, we're making the most of it. So obviously, this is big news for our show.

and there's more good news about the podcast to come if you're unable to, and we'd love to see as many of you as possible at the different events that will be around our trip to England again in the first week of September. But if you can't make it, there's more good news to come about this podcast. Some people thought, is it bad news? No, no. All good news. And also, Erica, you're going to be there as well, behind the glass sitting in for Lindsay today.

Yeah, I'm going. I get to go film you guys. Super excited. How exciting is that? Have you ever been to London? I have not. I'm very excited. Neither is Dan.

Half of the broadcast gets to go to the UK. The broadcast? Yeah. What's the hatch? It's a broadcast. What was the action? It's a broadcast. Ooh.

What's the hash? It's a broadcast. Yeah. You know, your unbelievable ability is self-promotion. It just knows no balance. I just fell on it. It was an accident. I really didn't mean to play that. The broadcast, check out the broadcast, which is you and Emma VP and Connie Fox in some capacity.

Yes, when we can book her. I will give you the warning that Connie was also technically on our softball team. And also at one time was on this podcast, and sometimes she's hard to nail down, especially she becomes more successful. Connie has put more effort into the broadcast than she did to the softball team. no doubt about it. She's appeared multiple times. I think she'll be part of our Tuesday shows during the season. At least we're pretty hopeful of that.

But yeah, Tamposi will be there. I feel like she'd be high on the list of people that might not make it back. Like if I had to rank them just for something happening in London that prevents it. Like, Mark might just escape and try to stay. Temposi might be, you know, detain. I'm definitely a flee candidate, a candidate just to, at the end, I'll do all the work and then not return. Teposi might not be allowed to come back.

Like it's just some sort of lawn incident. Mark's going to hand me a letter sealed in an envelope and say, Dan, I'm trusting you with this. Please do not open it. Give it directly to Simone when you're. Well, I would invite them to join me. That man's not jogging. He's taking a powder.

I would invite them. I would invite them, he lies. Like sending an evite. If you can make it. So yes, that is the big news for the show. We're really excited to do it. And thanks to everyone behind the scenes, the shadowy league figures, for helping to make it happen. Yeah.

And all those letters to Rod finally paid. Yes. I mean, this has been going on. All those postcards get out finally like, all right, let's do it. Yeah, all those, it's been years that we've talked about wanting to make the trip overseas. And it's finally happening this year. It almost happened last year. We were quite disappointed when it didn't.

but this is actually even better because Wes is healthy this year and so it's going to be the four of us. In the nine days, which I never would have really imagined. We're getting there a long time, yeah. A week before week one starts, and then we'll be there until the Monday after week one. So there you go.

What better place to usher in the new season? Perfect place to do it. And we're going to get a rude awakening on the time difference for games as well because we'll have a lot of duties to handle Mark, but I know you can handle it. because it is grind to 30. I mean, I've been there before,

and the jet lag is not a concern to me at all. We're going to fly right through this. It is a little, I will say that for, Greg, you were there. Like, first 24 hours, I drank all this, like, strong British coffee and nearly threw up on a bus to a Bill's practice because your body is going through some things. Maybe it was the Bill's practice.

Could have been. All right, so there's the good news. More good news to come for everyone, but for people in and around England and the UK, come see us and we're going to have a lot of fun all of us together it will be a celebration of

our show and the audience can't wait let's do some news he's Tom this is Tom you're Brady and you're Tom and you're Tom but I'm Tom too

he's Tom too you get the same name how cool I got your name you are That is Tom Brady at Patriots Training Camp, meeting two toddlers, both three years old, I think twins that were named Thomas and Brady. The parents, shortly after some Super Bowl conquest, I believe it was the Seahawks game,

gave them those names to match up with the famous quarterback. I don't like when Tom Brady comes off as likable and kind and personable. So I didn't enjoy the video, but I'm sure some people One of them as Edelman is the middle name too So it goes on beyond just the first That's pretty wild It is Thomas Killian

And then Brady Edelman or Thomas Edelman All right And of course Colton Sessler So you're kind of in this world as well Actually exactly the same Yeah I named your

I don't I don't like bring that up A lot in my own house But named Colton after Colt McCoy And literally the night That Colt was born the Browns drafted Brandon Whedon. I remember that. Well, Colt McCoy's long gone.

Colt McCoy just signed a contract. Oh, exactly. And that's what we're leading the news with. My judgment was sound. All right. So let's start with the Los Angeles Chargers. A lot of buzz out there that the Chargers could be a team of ATL. Favorite this season.

Well, it would help if they stop losing key players to devastating injuries before August. NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported Friday that Chargers cornerback Jason Verrett Buret suffered what is believed to be a torn Achilles. Oh, during his conditioning test. What? Only the Chargers. This only happens to the Chargers that will likely knock him out for the season. This is the first day of camp.

This is a cornerback just 27 years old, but has not played much. He's always been dealing with injuries. When he has played, Greg, he has been. he's shown signs of being a stud but his career keeps on taking blows and so do the Chargers it feel like we start every season with this news of bad news

happening to the Chargers Hunter Henry the tight end and Jason Verrett were two of the brightest talents on the team when it comes to Verrett though I guess we have to admit it's been more in theory that he's been a great player than practice he was at an all pro type level in 2015 when he played most of the season.

But he's been in the league now five years, if you count this year. And that is literally the only season where he's been healthy. So he's just one of those guys, unfortunately, that's never going to have the career that he could have had because of injuries. Why not the Chargers ever have like a fourth string receiver with a hamstring? It's always the starting cornerback with a season ending injury or it's always a key player out for the year. It's never a minor nagging injury. And the timing.

It's always either before the season, early in the season. so it's like an entire year seems like that. I do want to, like, I would love to look in an actual study because anecdotally the Chargers are more cursed injury-wise than anyone else. But I want to see on paper if that's actually true. Warren Sharp of Sharp football did a study. They have lost over the last five years. The fourth most games due to injury and are the unluckiest teams in one-score games.

So bad luck has been haunting this team for a half decade. And, you know, you could say as much as I'm a Chargers fan, like rocking a chargers cap sometimes now when I'm going to school in the morning. Maybe they've brought some bad luck on themselves in terms of juju in terms of leaving San Diego. I don't know. I mean, in terms of, you know,

they had a great fan base there. They left them and I don't know. Well, I think more like scientifically, they've had medical personnel that has come under a lot of fire. The people that they've hired for the medical team have really, I don't know if it's the same now, but five years ago, they absolutely did back then. Of course, that medical team will also say, don't bring us into this. This guy stepped on the field for the first time.

I do want to point out before we move on, I thought they had the deepest cornerback group in the entire NFL. Desmond King was incredible last year as a rookie slot guy. Casey Hayward is a pro bowler, and Trevor Williams played excellent last year. So they had four quality cornerbacks, which no other team has. I do think that they can survive. Yeah, they also have Derwin James at safety. I mean, their secondary is very strong. They were top 10 in past defensive metrics

and third in scoring defense without Varet last year. So it's not like this is a back-breaking injury. Mark, based on the scientist Chris Wessling's data, his waterfall of data. Oh, that's a new one. Are you ready to now agree that the old Zeus are nailed it by naming the Chargers, the number one team on the back? No, you got extremely and overly aggressively cute

with that move. You name that number one, what? On the pain ranking. And you know what? They're one of the better teams in the AFC and they were last year too. They remain number one because that was written in digital ink and it's just there. It's like the Olympics. Maybe, Mark, four years from now, maybe you can get that spot back.

It is a total charade this conversation. Let's talk about players that got paid. Some players are looking to get paid. Some players do get paid. Julio Jones, the superstar Falcons, wide receiver who was upset that he was not getting his contract reworked, despite there being three years remaining on the deal. While they come to a compromise, Chris Wessling, a revised contract that had just, this is very similar to our own situation a couple years ago where Wes led the charge and was kind of out in front of it. I think there was even some tweets where a guy like said, I'm taking down my Chris Wessling screen saver. because he's complaining about money.

Like, I think I remember that. The Falcons have agreed to a revised contract that adjusts Jones' salary for the 2018 season rap sheet reported. Atlanta moved a total of $2.7 million from 2019 and 2020 to the 2018 year of the deal. It's a modest raise, obviously, West. But it was enough to get Julio to say, okay, we'll play ball.

Yeah, I mean, it's an excellent analogy, except for the fact that I could barely eat, couldn't afford rent, and could not afford to even drive my car. and Julio was making millions of dollars already. These ball players make millions. Where do they get off? This goes to show, I think, how stable the Falcons are. Julio came out after this and said,

I'll be a Falcon for life now. They promised, in addition to giving him $2.9 million this year from future years that is borrowed from, they promised to sit down and negotiate again next season for a new deal. But name a franchise that is set up for success better than the Falcons over the next three years. Maybe the Eagles, maybe the Rams, I don't know, but the Falcons would be right there in the top three or four.

They're in that window, and it's good front office work. They just extended Thomas Dimitrov, and you find out why, because your Super Bowl window is still open, and you don't have this as an ongoing drama with Julio Jones. It's not a ton of money, but they figured it out. He's turning 30. That's still a tricky contract to deal with next offseason, but you avoided what could have been a month of ill stories and back and forth.

I'm all in on these Falcons. I want them to be one of those best teams in the league. I want them to win a Super Bowl. Until your Patriots knock them off in the Super Bowl. I mean, if they happen to play the Patriots in the Super Bowl, then obviously I wouldn't be. If you reach the Super Bowl and then reach, what, the second round of the playoffs the next year,

you're already one of the best teams in the league. Oh, absolutely. They could have won the Super Bowl last year, I believe, and they have the roster, I think, to be right back in the mix. In other news, Taylor Luan, the star left tackle of the Tennessee Titans, is now the richest offensive linemen In football, he signs a deal with five years, 80 million, 16 million per season, 50 million in guarantees. Although Greg will point out, not guaranteed.

Got to see those details. Anyway, the deal for Luan tops Nate Solders' big deal he just got from the Giants. So he, Luan is locked in and is worth every penny for the Titans, right? because what's harder to find than a stud left tackle? Yeah, I mean, Wes, you said it on the last show, position scarcity. Why are these guys getting paid this kind of money? Because there aren't enough for them to go around league-wide. When you have one, you absolutely let them go.

You have a major void to fill, and the college game is not producing left tackles at the rate that it used to. Let's give the Cowboys a lot of credit here. Franchise quarterback is so obviously the most important asset in the NFL, a rock-soled offensive line is probably the most elusive asset in the NFL right now. 10 years ago it wasn't. Now it is.

And the Cowboys planned ahead when you see Taylor-Rwan and Jake Matthews getting paid this kind of money and then look what Tyron Smith is getting paid. It was a Hall of Famer in my mind. And Travis Frederick and Zach, I mean, Zach Martin got paid too,

but the Cowboys are in great shape on that offensive line. And the Titans are in good shape too. Let's give them credit too. John Robinson's really done an incredible job, I think, in his three years. Not that he drafted Luan, but the draft classes that he's had

and now keeping the right players there. As Wes mentioned, Jake Matthews and the Falcons also came to terms on a new deal. Very similar in terms of raw numbers to the Luan deal. Five years, 75 million, the number six overall pick in 2014. He has been a rock for that team, and he will not be going anywhere, which is very good news from that run. He's a little up and down. Who?

This just shows Nate Solder and Jake Matthews getting that kind of money just shows how tough it is. And it's kind of like quarterback where a slightly better than average starter is worth that much. Because I think Jake Matthews is a guy who's had ups and downs and he's solid, but he's not a guy that you think of in the same way as you think of a Tyrant Smith

or even Luan. He's getting paid because he's not a liability. Right. Can I clarify my rock statement? Yeah. He's there every... He plays every game. 63 out of 64 games.

They put him there and never have to think about the position. That's why you're in the lab. Hey, listen, I'm down stuff. I think that was a good point by Dan there. Good word choice. Except for when you're getting shredded and some key playoff moments.

You've got to think about it. Hey, Nate's old. got paid a ton of money he's been treaded i who doesn't get shredded your boy joe thomas was a guy that was uh seen as almost pure right all these guys have ups and downs right we all do sometimes we have podcast episodes i try blocking freeney uh spinning hoofs fair uh in other news oh this is fun the eagles the uh defending super bowl champions carson went so we should issue a podcast correction it was i guess erroneous data that we had data a fire hose of data we got and we got and we got sprayed by the hose in the face.

We took a fire hose of illicit data right to the face, Mark. Totally erroneous. What was the data point that was incorrect? The data point that was incorrect was that Carson once would start the preseason or start training camp on the Pupp list, which we said on Wednesday, not the case. He's not on the Pupp list. He's practicing with the team. And in his, what's that, Greg?

I'm just saying we shouldn't take the blame. We were just passing along, you know, NASA. We got blasted with the fire hose of data. It's not my bad data. A reporter asked once, did you get any workouts in, any rehab work during your honeymoon? He was just married. I got some workouts in.

In the fitness center. Bang. Mark? Does it do anything for you? Not news flash. Husband and wife engage in physical relationship. It goes to, I think Wes has a. Wes has a...

That's how the world works. A long-running truism that anything said by a coach or a player in a press conference is laughed out about 500% harder and everyone thinks

it's far funnier in that context than it would be in real life like Peyton Manning was like a modern day Chris Rock people thought behind the mic and it's like well you know.

Well it's similar remember when you were a kid and like they would show like a half an hour TV special in class and everyone would be sitting there and then it would, these are on old VCR tapes, they'd include the commercials and everyone is splitting, like laughing hysterically at the commercials, but at your house, you

would never laugh at the commercials. It's like that Eddie Murphy joke from Raw or whichever one of those delirious, where he talks about when you get out of jail, like a cracker tastes like filet mignon, you know, this best cracker you, when you're at a press conference and you listen to these canned responses over and over again, an attempt at humor feels much funnier than it really is. Plus just like, you know, boning on a honeymoon is, it's just, it's It's funny to think about. I think you guys sound a little cynical. It was kind of a funny little moment.

You know, our podcast, we sometimes like to shine a light on little funny moments. It wasn't a comic genius. Just a nice little aside, good timing from Carson. That's all. Yeah. That's all, Mark. He pulled it off. No, you pulled it off.

That's all I'm saying, Mark. I am not a major, like, I don't have any major negative thoughts about the interaction. I just, I was watching your face. It seemed like you were annoyed by it in general, the reaction. I think in general, if you are watching our programming, a lot of stuff happening right now on NFL Network is, this isn't funny, but we sure are going to make you think that we think it's funny. We have semi-breaking news.

Yeah, we're in mid-season form over here. Semi-breaking news. On the end of the table, what do you got, Wes? Taylor LeWan was not the only Titan to get a contract extension. Oh! Delaney Walker. Pro Bowl tight end, two-year 17 million extension. Love that guy

Pro Bowl Greg Pro Bowl You know A guy that's a major Difference maker on that team That's breaking news Good job boys

I think we should use Breaking News more It's just like a fun little sound I did a I did a study about 10 years ago When I was working for Greg About the way About Greg

No about the way Different positions age And 10 years ago Tight ends aged not quite as poorly as running backs, but close to it. You didn't see too many tight ends into their 30s playing well. And now because I think it's much closer to a wide receiver position, they age like wide receiver.

Delaney Walker didn't become a starter until age 29 and he's been a pro bowler at 31, 32, and 33. What if he didn't spend his first seven years of his career behind Vernon Davis? Blocking. The stats this guy would have would be really impressive. I think if they had a league-wide tournament of some sort of like ultimate athletic showdown of power and speed and all of that.

Delaney Walker would be one of the top seats. Maybe we should try to make that happen. I don't know if it's like ultimate fighting or exactly what it is. Well, it used to be like the 80s. What was that? They had the skills competition. Battle of the network stars. Walker would do well.

Battle of the network stars, ESPN, FS1, NFL Network. Let's have some fun. Let's fly. Let's do it. moving on Greg you we have a segment on the show called Greg likes rap

and it's not a second I don't want to do it pops up occasionally on the show you are as someone that represents the New Orleans region as a college student down there or Tulane you obviously must be a big Lil Wayne fan

either past or present absolutely the goat if you've never heard Lil Wayne a prominent hip hop artist of the last 10 12 years This is what he sounds like. Hit me on the aim. He said they want to kick back.

I tell him watch a soccer game and tell him I get back. You know, is jealous because I'm the real deal. You're just well. So, of course, that is not really, Lil Wayne. The horrific rules of our country.

company will not allow us to play any music that's commercial music but that's what he kind of sounds like that one was a little closer than most i had to put a lot of bleeps in there that was in our library and i was listening to her and i was like oh my god wow those are those are my executed bleeps it's in our library aren't we allowed to play it with the the sea the sailors language right definitely not let's sail through that loophole um anyway so uh kyle shanahan the 49ers head coach, obviously grew up. Is he around our age? Yes.

He grew up a little Wayne fan, obviously. And when he had a son with his wife, he named his son Carter after a little Wayne. That's little Wayne's name, given name, birth name. Correct. Also the name of his, you know, the album's Carter, Carter, too. Right, of course. So what is a little Wayne do?

What does Weezy do, Greg? He sends an autograph photo to the son and father and autographed CDs and a note that reads to Kyle. Thank you. I appreciate the honor. That it is. Hell, I have three boys of my own and only one is named after me. L.O.L. Love, Lil Wayne.

Hit it, Lil Wayne. What do you think about this story, Sessler? I like it. Let me tell you, Chris Sims, who broke this little anecdote. on his Bleacher Report podcast. Kyle Shanahan reminds me of you a little bit, Dan. He said that Kyle's one of those guys, if you're hanging and we're drinking beers

or whatever, he's got to control the music. Now, this part doesn't, but he says of Kyle Shannon, then he has ADD so we can never listen to a full song. But Dan is a guy that when you're hanging with Dan will bring remote speakers with him. I like that. Right?

And so you and Kyle Shanhan, a little bit of similar DNA. I grew up, music was always playing in my house when I was growing up. My dad was usually playing the Stones or Q104. The classic rock station was on. My mom was usually like Carly Simon. The Beatles would be mixed in.

And I think I just took that into my own adulthood. I just think life's better when music is playing in the background. Absolutely. Yep. Anyway. Delightful young man. Your wheelhouse. So there you got.

Nice job by a little Wayne. Oh, he's a huge sports fan. I mean, he's like a legit guy. Nice job by Kyle. What's up with juvenile? What's he doing? It's important. It's important to name your kids something that reminds you something you love.

Let's isolate that. I did a little research. I like juvenile. Didn't we decide that he could be in jail? He came up on this podcast somewhat recently. B.G. was in jail. I'm not sure. That prevented them from, you know, doing the much-anticipated reunion, that jail sentence.

Wow, look at this. You're talking about the hot boys. The hot boys. Love it, Mark. You're jumping ahead. We'll shift over to Hot Boys. You're jumping ahead to Neighborhood Superstar, one of their great hits. Rock Ice.

I need a hot girl, a third line. You're referring to Taco Charlton in Cowboys Camp, said he's nicknamed the Cowboys defensive line, the Hot Boys, and they were kind of competing to decide who was Wayne. Kind of no one, I kind of thought maybe Randy Gregory's BG, who's now in jail. I don't know. I mean, it lines up. But it really shows.

I was in New Orleans during the period when the Hot Boys first came to prominence, which is why I think it had such an influence on it. It was like the Beatles. It was like the Beatles, Juvenile was like Paul McCartney. at the time in New Orleans. I thought he was more John Lennon, actually. But it shows the influence that they're still talking about it all this time later. The Cowboys Offensive Line, he called Wayne the Goat.

And so they were having kind of a defensive line competition to decide who was Wayne. That's kind of like it's got to be DeMarcus Lawrence, right? Come on. I don't know. He's the best player by far. I mean, the rest of them, let's get them to play 16 games. I'm going to let you decide that. Although, Greg, if you had your own cadre of rappers, you would obviously be the cute boys.

Moving on, Sammy Watkins, who is very rich and in a very good situation with the Kansas City Chiefs. He signed a deal with them. And he decided late one night, it was 3 a.m. I think there's some people in this room that sometimes struggle to sleep. Mark, I know you. Oh, I do. You as well.

He was up at 3 a.m. Just wide awake. And he already decided to do two weeks before he was going to Chief's training camp, middle of night took out a pair of clippers and cut off his dreads that he'd been growing and worn for over a decade. And his quote, and the quote was kind of interesting to me, Chris, and we'll go back to you as our hair consultant today. Kind of just wanted to be different this season and just be about business.

I've had them for 12, 13 years. I'm 25 now. I don't want to be 40 with dreads. I just decided to cut it. So he got ahead of it by about 15 years. Cut him off. I can identify with that. There's certain looks that you want to have when you're younger,

but you know that it's not quite the same when you're 40. But he's not 37. It's 25. Yeah, but that's, it has to be, I can't really imagine it because I have never, none of us have gone through it. But it has to be an emotional thing. Something you've been growing for 12 years, that's a pretty big. Oh, it has to be a liberating thing, right?

Yes. He looks a lot different. He does. He kind of, to me, looks like a special teams player from, like, the 1980s. Like, he looks like he's from a timing. A little bit of an 80s look to him. One sneaky side part to this is, you know, you go to Roto World, you go to NFL.com, you go to ESPN. They all have the player's stock photo.

And all those people that do that now have to say, you know, he looks completely different. You've got to get an updated photo. You got to put it on your website and get all the new. You can't have Dreds, Sammy Walkins on your Roto World thing anymore or NFL.com. Someone's got to be dealing with that right now. Get to work. Get on it, Silva. Someone's dealing with that.

Get to work. Or if they took the team photos before training camp, by the midi camps, you're banged in a big spot. And the other thing, this is the quote, by the way, came from the Casey Star. And I want to give you the headline of the story because I quite enjoy that as well. New team, comma, new cut, colon.

Sammy Watkins sheds dreads to prove he's all business. That implies that the rest of the league with dreads, not all business. I'm not buying it. Or that he has. hasn't been about all business in the past. Yeah, I'm not sure about the connection. Headline writing is a lost art.

It's a tough one. It is time now to take a trip. We went to the Ravens Nest multiple times this week. Let's take a trip over the dog pound. Oh, that's cute. Intiminating. Sounds like a sad dog wanting to be bought at the pet store or something. That's depressing.

A bunch of little Brown's nugs to hit. Let's start. They have a new slogan as they look. to bounce back from 1 in 31 and 016 as they and it's signage all over their facility and Berea welcome to the hardland of America your thoughts about that mark I see it as a tie into hard knocks but it's to me I am it did not latch on to me successfully I think it conjures up other images I think it I'm not sure how it got out of a committee vote that this is where we want to go yeah oddly enough that was also that was the same

for Carson Wentz. Really? No. Gotcha. This from the Browns official site, football from the hard land of America, a phrase that will be seen on science banners and more at Brown's training camp

embodies the refreshed identity of the Cleveland Browns, consider it a starting point for the next generation. Oh, it's like a foundation. What do you guys think? A generation of Browns football. I mean, I don't have a huge example.

Dan, you had one good comment. It's like, how about just no slow, less slogans. It seems like, Every year, it's a re-creation. Right. And then when we go seven and nine or eight and eight, and people are feeling really good.

Slogan that. Yeah, no, I agree. Even as slogans go, it's pretty bad. And I do want to recognize Wes was an excellent joke there with Wentz. It just flew out of all our heads. It was a solid owner joke. The delivery was, the delivery wasn't on. It just wasn't good enough.

It just flew right over my head. In other Browns news, there is a big RV parked outside. The facility in the parking lot, a luxury RV, and according to reports, it is the property or the temporary property of Browns quarterbacks, Baker Mayfield, and Tyrod Taylor. It's their own personal little club, their own private space that no one but quarterbacks are allowed to be inside. And this is a Hard Knock's dream subplot. I mean, I think it's created specifically for Hard Knock. There's a lot of these little things bubbling up that feel very much set pieces for this show. Now, why do you think that?

Didn't Tyrod Taylor or Baker Mayfield do it themselves? I mean, number one, I'd hope you to invite Drew Stanton in there as well. But, no, it feels a little manufactured. But I like Baker Mayfield a lot from what I've seen pre-football. Just him in general, I really dig the guys. It's a likable duo, those two. Yeah, I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. Drew Stanton, good dancer, a good celebrator.

Has it been allowed in the RV? I'm assuming he is. How about Brogan Roebuck, the undrafted free agent at quarterback? Broback! For the next four weeks that he's on the team, he'll be probably invited to. Isn't this the number one criticism of reality TV for the 25 years of his existence? Is it really reality TV if you're manufacturing items for the show? Well, that's our theory here.

Yeah, I don't think there's no way they're having this bus if there's no hardening. I don't think, I don't buy that. This seems like, I don't know, I need to read the reporting on this. I believe Diana Rossini from ESPN. That's what she broke it. It sounds like a Baker-Mayfield thing to me that he decided to do. Or Tyrod, but one, I don't think it has to do it. Look, if they can play quarterback better than what we've seen in that team for the past two decades,

I don't care what vehicle they hang out in at all. Very fair. In other Brown's news, Jarvis Landry had this to say, according to Sports Illustrated. You'll be lucky if we don't score 40 on you, if we get everyone. playing to their potential, we can win the Super Bowl this year. Okay, again, file this under Hardland for me. Clip that off. Don't need it.

And we're going to play it every week throughout this season. Yeah, no, when I saw that, let's score 40 points between week one and week three. How about having some brown players with a little bit of confidence? They do. I don't mind that. It does feel a little bit different. Do you call that confidence? They're coming off of O in 16?

Sure. I think Jarvis Landry is a confident player. I don't call that confidence. He's a guy who loves football and is very confident about his abilities. That can't hurt. That is premature boasting bordering on hubris. In other news, Bruce Ariens, the former Cardinals coach who retired this year is a new game analyst for CBS. And he is slated to broadcast Pittsburgh and Cleveland's week one matchup in the hard land.

Wes, you wrote a piece on this. Great piece. Oh, thank you, Mark. Well, there's a lot of history involved here. Bruce Ariens got his start as a play-calling savant with the Browns, and as Mark knows well, was the play caller for Kelly Holcomb's shootout loss in the snow, I believe at Pittsburgh, 3633. Holcomb throws for 429 yards.

One of the great, that was the last time the Browns were in the playoffs, one of the great playoff games, forgotten by a lot of people. Ariens goes from Cleveland to Pittsburgh to come to play caller. he's replaced by Todd Haley, but not before a big kerfuffle in which Tomlin vows to get Ariens to try to get Ariens a contract extension that year. Instead, there's no contract period. Ariens is let go. He claims to be fired. He's still bitter about it. So I think you've got all these. He was fired. He just didn't have his contract renewed. Right, right, right. They didn't want.

The Rooney's didn't want him back. Right. He was essentially fired. Wasn't he Big Ben's best man in his wedding as well? I believe, and they have like adjoining houses on whatever that lake is in Georgia. Coach Drew Stanton. I mean, number one, I think Aryans, for all the times they roll these coaches out, we all think he's going to be great. And I'm already signed up to cover this game. No one else is covering this game.

I have a suggesting because he's doing this on CBS, right? Yes. You know how we have a cough button for our show while we're on? How about some producer should be assigned to have the cough button and press down the entire game on Trent Green. I don't need to hear what Trent Green says that entire show. It feels redundant. Just keep Aryans, have Ariens and Greg Gumbull,

and then Trent Green can talk, but no one actually hears what he says. Torn apart in the dog pound. Didn't see it coming. It happened. Well, if we had a power rankings of broadcast teams, the Gumbull Trent Green one is not high on our list. He's just taking air time away from Ariens, in a perfect game for Ariens to debut.

Taking Aryan's time away. Sorry, Trent. And finally, the Browns are, I guess they're adopting dogs or putting dogs up for adoption in conjunction with their dog pound roots. And they're giving the dogs different names on social media to drum up interest for these pooches. And one of them that just was surfaced or put on display was a beautiful 12-week-old Rottweiler hound mix called. Miles Garuff. And, Mark, that is problematic, potentially, in terms of intellectual property. Yes, it is.

Do you would like me to explain why? Yeah, a quick explainer. This was more on Wes's radar. Sorry, Wes, I should have teed me up. Our editor and boss, David Ely, this started yesterday. I think it was like a, was it Barker Mayfield? Barker Mayfield was another dog. Very nice.

Ely suggested Miles Garuff, I believe he added the Browns on Twitter, and then today they came up with the name. Oh, he added them? Yeah, but that's what we can get deeper into, but they did not seemingly give David Ely the credit deserved for. I was going to say, if it was just something where he threw it out there, it's not like there's no way you could land upon Miles Garuff. But if he added the Browns, there's a conspiracy here, West.

There's a conspiracy, and there was a certain listener, Brandon Blemker. I'm sure he's a fine guy, good, good dude, loyal listener, but he said in response to Dave's joke, you're never going to land Chris Wesleyan's best man with jokes like that, Dave. Whoa, let's get Dave on the phone. Let's call down to the newsroom, Erica, and see how he's feeling about this, and maybe while we're on this discussion,

aren't some points with the groom to be. Good luck. News desk is Tony. Hey, Donie. Can I talk to Dave Euli, please? Sure. Who's this? Is Dan Hanzas City around the NFL podcast? Oh, yeah. Hang on one second. New England, kicking off. They won the toss. They have the first.

NFL, this Dave. Dave. What's going on, guys? So let's get right to it. You know what's going on here. Send out a tweet suggesting a name for a dog in this Brown's adoption. scenario for dogs. And it looks like your idea was pilfered by the Browns with no credit given. Your thoughts on the situation. I think it's a big moment for me. A lot of people did not enjoy the joke yesterday. It's Miles Gareth, a playoff of Miles Gareth, a playoff of Miles Garrett's a little puppy. I think a couple there are a couple of groans when I sent

it out. Someone added West and said this is proof that I should not be a best man, but a couple people in Cleveland beg to differ. And you know what? I don't need the credit. I just hope the dog finds a good home. I'm glad you went the high road because there's only so many different ways you could name a dog after Miles Garrett. And this to me strikes me more like kind of the Twitter joke that everyone makes the same joke. Like everyone, including myself, made like a screensaver joke after Julio Jones. And you think, you know, you're clever. But you don't accuse other people of stealing your jokes.

I think it's just a natural dog name for Miles Garrett that they came up with. You're kind of saying that Ely had nothing to do with this. No to comedians like Anthony Juzzlenock, so I thought it was funny. I mean, I mean, I mean, Craig's comedy chops are a lot higher than mine. Well, I mean, come on. It's not even that great of a name. I kind of like Dan's version, Miles McGruff. Here's another one.

I have another one. This one's for free. Go ahead, Dave. Go ahead, Dave. Gabriel Puppers. Oh, all right. That's better than Miles McGruff or Groff anyway. All right.

So, in summation, well. Dave not only might have been robbed by the Browns of his IP. He also has come up with another cute name. And beyond that, his having a good nature in a good-natured way saying, it's not a big deal as long as these young puppies find a home. That's all that matters. Isn't that the type of character that you're looking for, the best man? Absolutely.

And to top it all off, we see how wide his influences. Dave Ely has gravitas, as you can see, the Browns changed the Browns made a change because of David Ely that's the way I take this that all makes up for the fact that it was an awful joke and a terrible name um wow also Dan I have a scoop for you do what do you got yeah um a noted NFL network insider might be hitting up the Browns to confirm where this name came from wow really very good and I respect that a lot too yeah that's intrepid that is intrepid that's a journal work I have a little breaking news here.

Okay. Just got this report from desert people. After the latest update surrounding Dave Ely, the Vegas odds dropped from 275 to 1 to be

Wes's best man to 272 to 1. Look at that. So we are going That's how you read Wes's reaction? The arrow is moving. I didn't see it that way. I'm glad we've moved past the whole romper controversy from a few weeks ago. Clearly, Vegas believes that we have.

Well, I think your influence, that's another thing. The Rams come out wearing rompers. That's got to be an ely influence. This is some amateur lines making that kind of like. Because there's some sharps there in Vegas. They got a lot in their bankroll. And whatever the maximum amount is, they're just putting on it because that's free money. This should be $10,000 to $1.

All right. Greg, you've always been a proponent of mine. I appreciate it. And Dave, of course, has his own dog, Cam, named after the quarterback that he does. Another prominent romperware. So take care of Cam this weekend. And hopefully one day, maybe one day, Dave, you'll be able to share that dog with a one. We can only help, right?

All right. Bye, Dave. Bye, Dave. All right, take it easy. And finally, in the news, let's leave the dog, pamp. Maybe as the season progresses. and if we all, as we all hope that the Browns dig themselves out from the hardland and move to higher ground, the dogs themselves will start to mature.

I'd like to think so. By week 17, some nasty, you know, mean-sounding dogs. They've gone from believe land to hardland. I mean, I'd workshop this behind the scenes before we go public with some of these items. Finally in the news, congrats to an old star of Thursday night football, Priyanka. who's engaged to be married to a Jonas brother of all people Nick Jonas in May December romance

Briaka 36 years old Nick Just a boy of 25 Good luck to both of them Still one of the best Football theme songs Thank you People don't remember it

Just have her superimposed over like burnt out buildings in Cleveland, it was, like, great. Actually, I think it was a future motif, if I recall. It was. There was a lot of glass buildings with, like, reflections coming off them and stuff. Yeah. More TNF news. Connie Fox got a job as part of Thursday Night Football.

Sure did. Congratulations. And the post-game show, that's a big spot. Pretty good. It's a big spot. She will not even be returning our texts a couple weeks from now. She's reaching that next stage where we are being. left behind as we're all too used to, but we're very happy for Colleen.

She's beyond saying we're the rest of Destiny's job. One of the things you need to be successful with this company is to eventually move beyond us, and that's where Colleen's heading. Are we ever going to move beyond us? No, no, no. We're going to London. We belong. All right, that's what's happening in the news.

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Gregi does Dallas And And Seduction Friday Guess what Whenever there Whenever movies a hit And maybe you could say

This is a bad thing about Hollywood Or in this instance The Hollywood Adjacent industry What happens? The sequel North Hollywood To be exact So let's talk about Gregi does Dallas, too.

Cowboys have all the fun. Gregi does Dallas in 30 seconds. That's it. How about that? That's it. You're going to give 30 seconds on this? Let's do it. Right, and hit it. Ezekiel Elliott is in better shape than the previous two camps of his career.

Cowboys are county on Tava and Austin. Too much. Someone named Blake Jarwin is the guy who's going to start at tight end. Everyone loves him. Jane Slater is the best tutor for interns ever. Could not be more generous. Michael Gallup, I think, is going to take Des Bryant's Red Zone snaps. Layton Vandrish.

He's going to get that middle linebacker job over Jalen Smith. Dak Prescott is the ultimate Garrett guy, and it's still a little weird that the Cowboys built a tower for the Jones family to watch practice. Oh, right on the button. Right on the nose. That is a little bit weird. It's very Bear Bryant, which I believe did he play.

I think Jerry Jones played for Bear Bryant. This is off the top of my head. And so it's very old school football. There's a tower, and it's got a huge star on it, and that's where Jerry and Stephen Jones watch practice just lording over their minions. You saw your boy at Gilbrand there as well, correct? I did.

He didn't make it into the 30 seconds. He didn't make it into the 30 seconds. When you're a man of Gilbrand's life experience, at a certain point, I think you stop being called a boy in any conversation piece. That's fair. Gil's a legend, though. He's going to 11 training camps as part of his.

He's going to 11 training camps as part of his serious XM tour with Alex Marvez, another a great host. And so he's still getting it done. He's plugged in. I'd knock that down a few. I'm just saying. So I'll, you know, love Gil. You're saying pace yourself.

It's a long season. You're concerned about him being called affectionately a boy, but you're trying to read, you're trying to now take command over his schedule. I'm saying that Gil is a. treasure of NFL media and the entire football world, it doesn't have to be a quarter after grind. You know, maybe let's move away from Grind 30.

He didn't get to be the godfather by taking time off from Grind 30. He might be, he might get into Canton one day and that's from grinding. That's fair, fair. Anyway, if you miss the video show from Wednesday, we have about a 30-minute segment or fly-on-the-wall segment. and you can check that out at nfl.com slash ATN Live. We do a video show every week, and that's this week's edition. Also, have you nominated the Around the NFL podcast for the listener podcast awards yet?

It's free, easy to do. Just head to podcastawards.com and nominate around the NFL in the sports category. You've done a great job, Erica, to lose cannon, putting this on our radar and helping us promote it. Do you have any insight to how we're doing? I, there's no way to see the measurements. Oh, you can't find out. No. Stop that bad.

What does your intuition tell you? I think we got this in the bag. Yeah, what's your woman's intuition saying? You know what? My ESPN is telling me that I really think we're going to win. Your ESPN? Yeah, it was a joke mark. Oh.

All right. I'll hit. I mean, they don't know all land. That's life. Let's get out of here again. Oh, oh, how can I forget? Well, oh my goodness, Mark Sessler. One little update.

It's an important update, too. I do not want to belittle because this is an important update about the calendar and what's happening right now in our solar system, Mark Sessler. Yes, let's pause now for a critical life update on the impending blood moon set to cast its crimson shadow over the earth. From a variety of news reports, we know this. As Friday turns into Saturday, Mars will make its closest approach to our planet in 15, years, creating the longest blood moon eclipse of the century.

Both the moon and eerie Mars will dominate the overnight hours on July 27th and into the morning of July 28th, traveling across the sky, twin-like, while appearing to be separated by the width of a finger. Two of them across the sky, Dan. You're going to be there to watch it. I will be.

A report from... I'm into the moon. You are into it. A report from Roya Backland of EliteDaily.com notes the blood moon event comes packed with deep spiritual tremors significance. In quotes, all full moons naturally bring your shadow self out to play. But a total lunar eclipse is a full moon multiplied by a million, meaning tensions begin swarming our world long before it even begins. This lunation doesn't simply change your mind, it changes your entire

world. As the blood moon comes to a close, you'll begin to feel your feet dangling over the spiritual edge. Your intuition spilling harsh truths and the sensation that's something big is about to happen, and let me tell you, lunar eclipses never lie, end quote. This lunar eclipse will be in the progressive zodiac sign of Aquarius, ushering in a period of revolution, inspiration, and of course, change. Dear friends, this can mean only one thing and one thing only, the end of the New England Patriots. I thought it meant that we were sponsored from Mr. Flames' economics class.

Uh-oh. We come in peace. They seem friendly. I say we trust them. How great for our planet. Nothing left. You got ten more hours, Greg. Hope you enjoyed it.

I did. It was great. Be sure to tell your significant other this weekend that Mark Sessler says it's time to bring your shadow self out to play. That sounds fun. All right. We'll be back. we will be back on Monday with another announcement, not quite as big as the one we made today.

Again, we are going to London. We're going to England for the first week of September and the lead up to kickoff on week one. So make sure you clear your calendars. We're going to give you more information about what exactly is happening as we approach the event. But thank you, again, to all the listeners

because this would not be a possibility if it weren't for your fanatic devotion to the show overseas. thank you. We'll be back on Monday, three shows, including a road trip. So more on that on Monday. Until then, Dan Hansa's signing off for a quiet storm, the mailman, the boss, and the loose cannon behind the glass till Monday.