NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bills-Dolphins Week 3 TNF Recap and Head Coach Hot Seat Watchlist

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook are back with another late-night recap of football action, this time covering a 31-21 Buffalo Bills victory over the Miami Dolphins. Josh Allen added another signature highlight to his reel, Tua Tagovailoa was intercepted in crunch time and the Dolphins are 0-3... meaning head coach Mike McDaniel could be on the hot seat. All of the best TNF action and more on the latest from NFL Daily!NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Coming the other way and out of bounds at the 40-yard line. Terrell Bernard, Mr. Fourth Corner, comes up huge. He read Tua like a book. Oh, and it was a bad ending. Once again, to that book for the Miami Dolphins. 31 to 21. The Buffalo Bills win on Thursday night football over the Dolphins. That was Chris Brown on WGR.

We are getting used to hearing Chris Brown at the end of these games because the bills just keep winning 3-0 on the season. Another efficient offensive performance by the Miami Dolphins offense, Nick shook just until the moment that they needed a game-winning drive and then a big-time mistake by Tua. Yeah, and the third straight, different outcome, like different style of game for the bills. They have a furious comeback in week one. They have a dominant performance against the Jets in week two. They win a close one because their defense steps up on a night in which,

their defense couldn't get off the field against Tua's improvisation. Not the most high-scoring entertaining game, but an entertaining game if you like close games with a bit of a chess match going on in the second half between these two teams. Yeah, it had an early season Thursday night feel

to it in some regards. And yet it was intriguing. I can't say it was shocking, Nick, because it took me all of about 90 seconds in the show to bring up the fact that I hit this score exactly right, 31 to 21 to 21 on game debut.

I could go three more years without hitting one game score right, so I'm going to mention that. But the way they got there with great running really by both teams, very efficient, no turnovers until that play by Tua. And two offenses shook,

I'll start here, that to me were the symbols of, you know, what happened to my beautiful game. Like there were no deep passes in this game. You know how many throws, Josh Allen made that even went over 10 yards? Can you guess?

I'm going to say, I'm going to say three. One, and he didn't complete it. It was a dime. It could have been a touchdown, and the defender, who was that on that play? Isaiah Davis or something made a deflection just at the last second to prevent a touchdown on a nice throw by Josh Allen. He didn't attempt anymore, and I can't kill him because he didn't really need to. I think they watched that tape from the Dolphins and the Patriots last.

week and saw the dolphins just leaving wide open receivers underneath. And if you're going to give us eight, nine yards a pop, we'll take it. And for most of the night, it worked out. And then on the other side, you know, before we got on, you noted it's not, it's not too often. You see a guy throw the ball 34 times for 146 yards. That's what Tua did, you know, under four or five yards per attempt. And I only think he attempted. Let's look. He had many in the intermediate zone, one deep, but he only completed three of them, three of ten over 10 yards. So it was just like a dink and dunk and dink and dunk and running type of game. And ultimately, were you ever like actually thinking that the bills were going to lose this game?

No, I thought that the dolphins might tie the game and the bills would find a way to win and they'd win by one possession, maybe by three points. Although, I don't know if you can entirely trust Matt Prater. He had a bit of it up and down night. But what, you know, I think about that one deep ball. I know exactly which one it was. it was a shot down the seam to Tyreek. And it was a bit of a desperate heave by Tua. And it really, I think,

captured a lot of how this game played out between these two teams. Because the big story for me is Buffalo's ability to get to a off his spot and force him to improvise both kind of hands stirring, undercutting their offense early. And then he adjusted and was able to make plays in the second half to keep them in this game. But even with the score being tied, to answer your initial question, And I never quite felt like the dolphins were going to win this game because it took so much, such an effort just to get to the end zone because there weren't the explosive plays that it just felt like eventually because the bills are the better team, they were going to win out and they did. Yeah, I get the instinct to give them a pat on the back for giving us a good show. And I do get that.

It's a little bit of a moral victory. You're listening to Kirk Herbstry and Al Michaels talk about them. Like, you know, they deserve medals of valor for trying so hard in a difficult situation. And it is difficult. You know, the vultures are circling. There are reports before the game, one from our Ian Rappaport, who is on Amazon Prime, saying that the owner of the dolphins, quote, doesn't want to fire Mike McDaniel, but that had some caveats.

If fans stop showing up, newsflass, they will stop, you know, showing up if they keep losing. And then if the players look like they're quitting on Mike McDaniel, which we haven't seen, And the last two weeks have just been normal games that show the cracks in the dolphins, but they're plenty competitive after the first ugly performance against the Colts. Unfortunately, the record is what it is. It's still 0 and 3. You've still lost, I think, seven straight now to the bills. And it's a matchup problem.

And you're in now year four of Mike McDaniel, you want it to start moving forward. Before we get into all that, I do want to give the bill some love. because ultimately their offense, Nick, is playing with a pretty small margin for error. They needed to hit almost all these touchdown drives tonight to make sure that they won. And they went out and did it. And I think it shows a more mature Josh Allen.

One thing that stuck out to me was just how quick his decisions were. So he's getting rid of the ball really quickly. He knew exactly what he wanted to do when he scrambled, which was very rare tonight, only a few times. He was quick and decided when to do so. I think he's just making smart football decisions and playing with a maturity at this stage of his career of doing exactly what he needs to do. And this is what this game kind of required out of him. Yeah, I actually really like this matchup because it was a good comparison between two

quarterbacks who are just different at different levels. You know, Tua has to try to figure out how to improvise and it's not pretty at times. Sometimes he has to cut the field in half in his reeds just because he can't get to the other side of his progression in time or he's just not going there. He's missing open guys because primarily he doesn't have time to throw. And he's not a guy that ever really looks comfortable improvising. Josh Allen improvising is like just part of his game. Like there are some plays where the first reason out there and he immediately takes off and makes you pay it. The dolphins are committing, you know, Tyrell Dodson to spy him and it's not really working. There's one time where Alan scrambles for a big game, just shy the line to gain and

Dodson flies in and tries to, you know, finish off the tackle because of course you're not going to give up and pull up on Josh Allen Scramble. He could take that to the house. That causes some bills players to get a little, you know, irritated with how that play finished. But it's a great example of just the fact that this is a guy who's a weapon with his feet and obviously with his arm. And it shows why he's an elite quarterback, why he's the reigning NFL MVP. Yeah, I follow some Bill's fans on Blue Sky and I'm listening to them, will you let Josh Allen actually be Josh Allen in this? And I'm thinking, Josh Allen's doing what he wants to do. I think of the idea was like, let the shackles off. He's not going deep at all. And they will need that. And there were a couple

drives in the second half where they did eventually punt where, you know, it didn't work out. Ultimately, though, he threw the ball 28 times for 213 yards and three touchdowns. And, you know, any complaints about not improvising or not giving us enough entertainment, I'll send you to the first quarter of this game. Yeah. When he got one of the most fun touchdowns of the year to Spencer Haas, a Yale graduate, scoring a touchdown on Thursday night football. Alan Under Center on first and goal from the five, motion from Hawes,

Fakes the snap. Alan going to roll left, looking for someone in the end zone, and now shovel passes it. Complete to Jackson Hawes for his first career touchdown from five yards out. It reminds you of Brett Farve a little.

He flicks the ball while he's looking one way, tends it another. It almost felt like early in this game it was too easy for him, and he was just trying stuff out. Because he tried another flick across the body, a drive later further down the field to a receiver that wasn't.

wasn't even that open and it felt a little unnecessary and it was just like, yeah, I'm Josh Allen. Like, I can try things like this. It was a flick that probably could have been like a floated pass, like a traditional throw, like just a toss, didn't need to necessarily flick that ball. But it just shows that exactly what you said, which is that he's playing freely. He knows he's at the peak of his powers and that this offense runs through him and that no defense really has a real answer for him. And he can do whatever he wants, including taking your wrist sometimes.

And it's one of those things where like, when it works the first time, suddenly you feel emboldened and I'm just going to try it again because it worked on that touchdown pass. It's funny because on that drive, you know, the dolphins come out strong. They score a touchdown. They get a big kick return to sit themselves up. They go down and score a touchdown. I'm like, oh, okay, they're going to be a little punchy here. This is going to be maybe a close game.

And the bills go right down the field. And Alan caps it with that flip and I'm like, ah, yes. But then you must remember you are playing the Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins. And this is going to be a bit of a long night when you have to stop this quarterback. It's, it's really fun to watch. Like he's a top Mike QB index for a reason for plays like that. He's at the peak. Ooh, spicy.

How high is Dak Prescott right now? I should be. He's in the top 10. Oh, top 10. I mean, I know the QB Index has taken into previous years, but he might be top three, top one for me. He's not top. I'll look it up right now.

He is, he is, 25. I don't know why. He's ranked. I got him at eight. Okay. But you're taking into more than just these two games so far. I was just saying two games. By the way, I apologize to Jackson Hawes,

scoring his first touchdown in his NFL career. Before tonight, he'd barely run any routes at all. And now he gets a couple catches in this game. I called him Spencer Hawes, who was a top 10 pick by the Sacramento Kings in the NBA about 10 years ago. Who do you remember Spencer Hawes as? Because I remember him as a 76er.

I barely remember him. I don't know how that name was in my head. But yes, a nice moment for Haas, who's mostly out there. blocking. And while we're talking blocking, this Buffalo run game is where everything starts. And the threat of Josh Allen is important. But tonight, it's not like it was a lot of RPO nonsense or anything like that. It's just their straight ahead running game. James Cook goes 19 for 108 again. And his success rate for the season is just through the roof. He is taking advantage of

great blocking. And then he is making extra plays once he gets to the second. level, a lot of yards after contact. They actually had a rushing success rate tonight for 50% and that was much lower. I'm much higher until late in the game. And I think that includes the last cup in the last drive where they were just, you know, trying to get the clock to run out. So I've been really impressed by them. And one thing that stands out, you can tell me what you think when you look at the blocking scheme and the play calling and everything. I think the wide receivers block really well. Like the tight ends block well. And then you see all the wide receivers, including Keon Coleman, out there really effective on the perimeter in terms of

their blocking too. Yeah, I would like Bill's fans to understand one thing. You're not going to get the explosive plays you yearn for on a consistent basis because you don't have field stretching weapons. And that's fine because you've traded stretching the field for really good blocking all across the other 10 guys on the field. And it's producing a very balanced offense. It's producing first half for James Cook in which he goes seven for like 74, which is an insane rate. And it, It just makes you a more threatening team and a tougher team to defend because not only do you have to worry about the NFL MVP at quarterback, but you have a running back who is dynamic, a running back who has great vision, great burst and also makes guys miss. He's hard to bring down. He'll rip off a big one.

Your explosive plays are probably going to come on the ground about as often as they come through the air because you have James Cook. And thank God, Brandon Bean finally figured out how to get James Cook to the table and get that contract done because, wow, it would be a lot different story if he wasn't on the field. Oh, he was never going anywhere, but they treated him well like they. should, even though he had still a year on his contract. I'm surprised Ray Davis isn't getting more run, because he's a good backup, but you didn't even need him tonight. Ty Johnson's in there as a good third down back. So they can use those guys more. And he had a key third down pickup where the dolphins were just expecting them to pass, even in a short-yarded situation. Because he's out there, they have a lot of weapons. Like, Kincaid had a nice night, five for 66, had a touchdown. Could

have scored another if he stayed a little more upright. But Minka Fitzpatrick got him down at the goal line. Kian Coleman went three for 20, and yet I've been impressed each and every game. I've seen something really good that he's done a good contested catch on a third down. I like Kian Coleman. You mentioned the touchdown drive. So the dolphins tie it, 21 all in the fourth quarter. We got a real game here, and then the bills just do what they do. They went right down the field, finishing with a touchdown to Kaleel Shakir.

Shakir in motion left to right. And now in an orbit motion back to the left side. Back to pass. It's a screen pass to Shakir has a blocker in front, racing to the end zone and he's in. It's a 15-yard screen pass for a touchdown. As Shakir got great blocking downfield, got up the sideline and into the end zone.

And the bills have the lead back again. Yeah, I think that was Dawson Knox with some good blocking there down the field. So this is a good time. Well, let's pivot over to the Dolphin side, where the defense just hasn't provided a lot of resistance. There wasn't a lot of hope, at least in my mind, on that drive that they were going to make a stop, Nick. They're paying a lot of guys up front tonight.

I don't think they really had a chance to make much of an impact because Josh Allen was getting rid of the ball so quickly. Like, what are you seeing out of this Dolphins defense? You know, they get pressure or they at least cause a bit of havoc up front. The rest of the picture is inconsistent. And we know the injuries that they've dealt with in the second. secondary. They lost a defensive back. They lost Jack Jones for like a play. Like it was almost in succession. Jason Marshall, their slot corner also was knocked out of this game. Yeah. And then

Jack Jones came back in. Yeah. So you're thin. Like you're thin back there. And we talked before the season about their investment was very much in their front seven. And you know, he had a penalty that was just completely unnecessary tonight. But I have like the way that Jordan Brooks has played through the first three weeks of the season. I thought that he's, you know, a nice linebacker in that group. And so they're going to keep you competitive. It's just a matter of, you know, getting teams off the field. They did a great job in the second half. I thought that early on it felt like Anthony Weaver was a step behind Joe Brady and then we got to the second half and it felt like Weaver was a step ahead and Brady was playing a little bit conservative in his play calls. They

were taking a lot of short passes that the dolphins were all over. It was a good chess match, a good back and forth. So like I can't put high expectations on the Dolphins offense right now because they've been very hit or miss, but they were more efficient tonight. They did get into a rhythm in the second half. So it's hard to say which side is better. Oh, I can tell you. The offensive side is better. The defense stinks. Here's the thing. The defense does stink, except they forced three punts in the second half and kept them in the game. It's just that they didn't capitalize. So I'm looking at it here. And I'm with you. That was my feel from the game. Oh, the Dolphins defense, they actually competed. They figured out something. They were trying a lot.

Sometimes I'm looking at all the crazy, you know, things that Weaver is throwing at them and throwing at the bills in the first half. And none of it's really working. I'm thinking, does you have the personnel and the continuity to really do all this crazy stuff? In the end, you know, In the first half, they gave up two touchdowns and a missed field goal. They did force two punts in the middle of that third quarter, but sandwich between that was another couple touchdowns and field goals. So I think we are three games now into the season, and they've had a total of four stops.

So they had none against the Colts. They forced two punts against the Patriots, gave up scores or field goal attempts on every other one, and the same thing tonight. It was just a low-possession game where they're giving up these longer drives and especially their offense is going on these longer drives. it's rough and on the other side like this used to be one of the most exciting offenses in the league and they were reasonably efficient tonight you know they didn't turn it over until that

interception and so before that you had three touchdowns on seven drives like on a per drive basis that would lead the league over the course of the season scoring three points to drive like that that's great but man they are working hard to do it and you mentioned the third downs that Tua was pulling off actually in that touchdown drive at the end of the second quarter. Like asking him to play that game is to me like a sign. It's not really the Dolphins offense that you want to see. Yes, but I texted you this. It was kind of a gross game by halftime because like they got down there and scored.

And the whole way down was just like you're living on the razor's edge. Like hold on the side of your seats here because this is going to be a wild ride. It was like the pressure was affecting to, like I said earlier, he was basically forced to like only take half of the field. He was missing open guys. And yet he was finding ways to complete passes or at least extend drives. Tyreek Hill makes a phenomenal catch in front of two defenders and just not a phenomenal catch, but a phenomenal catch and run because he's just that fast.

He's able to outrun two guys to get to the line to gain to extend that drive. And by the time they get in the end, I was like, well, that's good for them. But God, it was chaotic getting down there. It was not clean offense. It just happened to work. The second half was much better for them offensively. Yeah, you're right.

like this is the strength of their offense. It's just about consistency and it's about details. Like the details kind of lost than this game more on the defensive side and special teams than offense. Of course, that interception was kind of an example of Tua immediately putting in his head in one spot and being like, I'm looking here and the defense reading it and him not seeing a blind spot.

And I have some issues with the way that he, the speed at which he gets through his progressions, but he was sped up all night. And so it's kind of difficult to hold that against him when you know that he was spit up all night. The two things that I took away from more than anything with that, he does not trust his offensive line. And he breaks,

he doesn't slide away from pressure. very well because he's just constantly like, I know I don't have time to throw. But the beauty of that is that they were, that touchdown drive that they pulled off in the second half, that throw to Tyreek Hill was exquisite. That was two guys who have played with each other for a long time. I know he's going to be there. I'm going to throw it up off a back foot with the guy in my face and cap off the most impressive drive of the night for them. Yeah, like that's the thing. He really did pull off three great third and longs and there was another one where he ran for in that drive. And him having to do that is not a great sign. At that point, he was 12 or 18 for 66 yards, which is crazy. And they were tied

in this game because, you know, we've been so hard on the dolphins here. Let's, let's listen to a happy moment from Tuatunga by Loa because they did keep it close. And when they finished off that second quarter drive, I thought, okay, we're actually in this game. Four cracks in the end zone. Back to throw, slap pattern. Waddle touchdown. Nice throw. Great call. And a terrific pattern by Waddle. What a great drive. Wow, one of my favorite touchdown celebrations, Jalen Waddle, finishes with five for 39 and a touchdown,

rewarding his fantasy owners that had some faith tonight. Like Tyree Kill, I thought, other than that one drop, which was big on the deep ball. And that was a, it was a balloon, but ultimately I think Tyree Kill would admit that he should have that ball. He jumps and gets his hands on it. He finishes with five catches, 49 yards, a touchdown, and an eventual backflip on that,

on that throw that you were talking about in the fourth quarter, which was just a terrific route by Tyree Kill. Ultimately, though, like, it's a good running game. A-chan and Ali Gordon ran the ball very well. Their success rate has been actually pretty consistently high all season and was excellent tonight.

I have questions about the Bill's defense overall, like long-term. Oh, you do too. What are your questions? I'm just, I'm glad that we've gotten there because you made the point about the dolphins maybe not having the personnel on that side of the ball,

I don't know if the bills do either, and I don't know if Sean McDermott has admitted that yet because that sequence that led to that touchdown just before the end of the first half was a display of how McDermott, I think, trust his guys more than he should in the way that he approaches defense. They ran a lot of man. They gave a lot of man looks, and that's fine. But that instance, when Tua throws a touchdown pass, I have no idea why they called the defense that they called.

Like, they're double mugging the A gap. They've got Tredavius out wide against Jalen Waddle playing soft off coverage. You're going to bring pressure. Why not try to press at the line? Because if you're going to speed at the quarterback, make the route harder to run. He plays off and it's the easiest slant I've seen in a long time. And it was one of many where I think in the second half when the dolphins were, you know, marching down the field slowly.

I mean, crawling down the field, kind of. There were a couple of instances in which they convert third downs. A lot of passes to wattle near or outside the numbers where they're showing pressure and changing coverage, rolling the shell at the last second and asking Cole Bishop to run from the hash to the numbers, like an undercut a route. And I'm just like, do you understand that you don't really have the guys to do all this exotic stuff that you don't need to necessarily do all this exotic stuff? I think that's a big reason why that they were, they struggled to get stops in this game

tonight. And it's correctable, but it concerns me just about their long-term approach. They need to look in the mirror a little bit and be like, maybe we shouldn't get that adventurous with our play calling defensively. Yeah, I don't think it's going to show up for them. They're going to have such an interesting regular season. And I think their fans might get annoyed. because I think this defense is going to struggle.

Our friend Jordan Rodrig is right with you, and she has big concerns about this defense. And yet, it might not really show up because they're going to keep winning. Like the AFC East out of division schedule is so easy because you play the NFC South. And like, for instance, the bill's upcoming games, Saints, Patriots, at Falcons, that's a little tricky, I guess, at Panthers. It's like, it's going to be a while. You then get the chiefs in the back end.

The Eagles are in week 17. but for the most part, it's games that they're going to be heavily favored and that they can win shootouts or games like this when they need to. That's just how they're built, and that's just how the schedule comes up this year. By the way, the dolphins at 0 and 3, and we're going to talk about Mike McDaniel and his future in a second after the break. Do have a softer part of the schedule coming up with the Jets and a game at the Panthers. But those two teams are also looking at the schedule and thinking,

oh, great, we get to play the dolphins. So it's like, every fan base thinks that way, but it's like the jets are also thinking, okay, that's a possible win, and only one of them is going to get it. So I always think to fear the moral victory. All right, let's take that break. On the other side, we are going to talk about coaches,

potentially on the hot tea. It's a little early, but I think with the dolphins tonight being in primetime, I just thought, like, let's think about like an early watch list of these coaches. And I don't think tonight necessarily got Mike McDaniel off that watchless. And we will also do a little bit of news before getting out of here.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner, of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Back on NFL Daily. All right, it's a little early. I feel bad about this, but I just thought the McDaniels situation is worth talking about big picture when you hear a report like that from Ian Rappaport before the game. This is a game where I think people will feel better about their effort. It will maybe calm the waters a little bit, but ultimately they're still 0 and 3, and I just started thinking about the different possible coaches that we're just

going to be keeping an eye on this year. And I think the dolphins unfortunately have that feeling to it, Nick, at 0 and 3, yet looks great that you have a couple games that are favorable on the schedule coming up with the Jets and the Panthers, for instance, then the Chargers and then at Browns. But losing those types of games are also the kind of moments that get you fired. Like, If they go 0 and 2 against the Jets and Panthers, like it's probably a wrap. If you split those two games, lose to the chargers and lose to the Browns,

like that could be trouble. So they could do a few different things here. They could have Mike McDaniel use Anthony Weaver as a bit of a scapego because the defense is struggling and that happens first before McDaniel firing. Or you make Anthony Weaver the interim, head coach. Either way, I just feel like we've kind of been through this story before with Miami

and they are going to need to win fast and they're going to need to do it with everyone watching because they're in prime time again next week. The NFL schedule maker is probably not thrilled with that one right now. No, no, I can't imagine they would be. You're absolutely right. The points

you made about the schedule and the matches that you have, you have to realistically, if you really want to get this, you want to quiet this conversation. You're not going to silence it, but you want to quiet it. You beat the Jets and the Panthers. Luckily, you get the Jets at home you do get them on a prime time stage though pressure's there but i also kind of want to think that the last couple of weeks have slowly crept back out of the dark place that they were in after week one like week one the body language was bad the performance was worse last week you know

they were competitive and then you know they had the the blunders in the fourth quarter giving up the kickoff return touchdown you know kind of falling apart offensively that hurt them tonight was their best showing this season like this is an oh and two team playing a two and a team that's expected to contend for a Super Bowl, and they're right there with them throughout the game, kind of a weird game, but they're right there with them throughout the game. If you can take that momentum into the next couple of weeks and win a couple of games, you can stave off the vultures for a couple of weeks. And the players, Tyree Kills' body language was a lot better than it was in the last couple

weeks, and they perform better as a team. Again, though, it comes down to details. It comes down to the ruffing the punter call that then buys the bills of fresh set of downs and they go down and score a touchdown. It's the small things. If those small things keep stacking up against the Jets and the Panthers and they cost you games, then that change is going to come quickly. he's definitely atop that list right now because of all the expectation that came with the dolphins

and how they've started so far this season yeah i i should have mentioned that that's a bad job by me that the zach sealer roughing the punter penalty really turned the game around because i said look the bills do what they do they go on a touchdown drive when you absolutely need it but they wouldn't have if not for sealer hitting the punter on a play where it looked like they had left a lot of their starters in, like they weren't supposed to necessarily be coming after the punter. This was at least the interpretation of Maurice Jones drew while as we're watching this in the film room. And Seeler just thought he could go make a play almost went rogue when they were trying to play it safe and having left so many their defender out there. And maybe that's

why Mike McDaniel got so upset. Let's move on and keep going through this list. So I agree. I think he's kind of atop the list. I didn't know where to go second because I was kind of ranking these. So this is a no particular order. But I do think Kevin Stefanski's situation for Cleveland this year is interesting. They have made it sound like, Shuck, that they're going to have all the patients in the world. It wasn't him who necessarily brought in Deshaun Watson. They didn't get their high, you know, profile quarterback this year. That's great. But I've watched enough, you know, NFL seasons to know that you can't survive two straight years where you don't win, you know, four games. And so to me, after winning three games like last year, they have to have some

level of competitiveness this year. And I think it's going to be difficult. I think that he saves his job over the course of this season if they play like they did in week one for the majority of their games. He loses his job if they fall apart like they did against Baltimore in week two. I think it really is as simple as that the fashion in which you lose is going to matter significantly. I also think that there are going to be quarterback changes ahead. You are going to see Dylan Gabriel at some point. You may see Shador Sanders at some point. There's just no reason if you're not contending for a division title or even a little bit of a hope of, a glimmer of hope of the playoffs that you're going to try out these quarterbacks. And the weird thing about it was as

they entered this season, it almost felt like if there's one team that's going to give a coach who's been there a long time, a longer leash and more runway, it's the Browns because they understand what he's stacked up against. They understand that their poor decision with Deshaun Watson has handcuffed their ability to bring more talent in. And I think that their draft has panned out well so far. And Kevin Cefancy's won coach the year twice. He's gotten them to the playoffs twice. This is a level of production that the Browns have not seen consistently

and a level of stability they haven't seen since they came back in 1999. So all of that's going to give him a longer runway. But again, it's the fashion in which you lose these games. Because they're going to lose most of their games. They're going to get beat by Green Bay. They're going to get beat by Detroit. They're going to get beat by Minnesota. If they're competitive in any of those games, it quiets a little bit.

But it's a gauntlet that they're facing. It's that week seven game against Miami. You could have two coaches coaching for their job. I just think that such a drastic move is going to take longer in his case than it might with the Dolph. Hey, how about with the game? I'm going to go see him play. The game of the one that got away, Carson Wentz and the Vikings versus the Browns in London. I mean, your Browns, you got to try to win that game.

You got to win some games. I know, like, stylish losses are nice, but you got to win some games. And they do not have an easy schedule like the Dolphins. The Dolphins, on the other hand, like they're in a difference. situation. It's not just about style points. They are going to need to stack six, seven, eight wins at the very least, I think, to keep Mike Daniel's job. Brian Callahan's just on my radar a little bit. I just think he needs to show some progress with his young quarterback, Cam Ward, and his offensive line. They said it's going to be a good

offensive line. If Cam Ward plays well, I think then Callahan's going to be okay. I think that the two things can be independent of each other because it's hard. Because this is a franchise that's undergone a lot of change in recent years. You know, Ron Carthon, uh, getting the boot, uh, Mike Rable getting the boot. Like, it's just regime change after regime change, different leadership involved. But throughout that whole stretch, they didn't really have the, what they believed was the answer at quarterback. And now they think they do. And I think they do too. And I think that they could feel good enough about washing their hands of the current regime if it's really ugly and still be like, hey, we have our quarterback. We just need to pair them with the right guy.

We need to do what the bears did. Well, what they attempted to do. with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. I think this is one of the more likely ones based on just the way, again, early, but I just don't expect the Titans to be super competitive this season. Yeah, very early. Brian Daibel, I guess I was ranking these would be pretty high. His tenure, I think, is going to be really dependent on Jackson Dart playing well,

playing at all. I don't think Russell Wilson is going to have the whole season. I also think, though, that Brian Davel is higher of Shane Bowen and taking advantage of this defensive talent, like the team could be bad enough and it could be negative enough there that even if Jackson Dart looks okay, who knows how long he'll be there. And then Dave Canales was the other one. I would just throw out there based on the history of this Carolina Panthers organization.

They keep changing GMs. They keep changing coaches and they're off to an ugly start. So I didn't want to go too deep on this watch list. I don't know if either one of those stands out to you as more interesting than the other between Canales and Dave. I think that ownership matters a lot in their history. and if there's an ownership group that makes a more rash decision, it's the Carolina Panthers.

So I would hate to see that because I think Canales and Bryce Young are a better pairing than the situation that Daebel's in right now, and Daibel could have gotten fired last year. But these are two examples where I'm like, let's let it play out. Let's see what really happens. It's all, let it play out, but it's just we try to get ahead of things here on NFL daily. And after a couple weeks, and certainly this dolphin situation, I just thought it was topical.

Before we wrap here, a lot of people, People asked, Nick, after listening to the preview show, appreciate everyone checking it out, where was our Unca the Week? I don't know if you were on top of that new weekly segment, and that was my bad. And I do want to belatedly award the Unca the Week to Tony Jefferson, the safety of the Los Angeles Chargers, who made a ridiculous interception. And I didn't even know before this segment started, everyone on the team already calls him Unk. And so he's, that's his nickname on the team. I saw it in social and people are sending it to me.

I was like, he obviously has to be the Unk of the week. A 36 year old safety who was in the scouting department for the Baltimore Ravens and is out there, you know, making some pretty big hits and a nice interception. Congratulations to Tony Jefferson. Yeah. You were destined to be the Unk of the Week at some point this year. You didn't fumble this entirely. I believe you talked about this on the Sunday show. I did. I did bring out that. He was a strong candidate, but you got to finish it off. So I just didn't want to let that go. And then just a couple little news items before we say goodbye to the PIC show where, you know,

we don't hit the news too much. Brock Purdy believes it will go up until game time for him to possibly play. He was limited in practice. Mack Jones was very secretive saying he wasn't sure if he was going to start or not. It almost feels like Kyle Shanahan has prepped these guys for exactly. what to say. And I got to admit, it's working. I don't, I don't know who is starting at quarterback for the 49ers. So I just, I just wanted the listeners to know that too. Yeah, Greg, it's week three and I'm already tired of the way Kyle Shanahan handles injuries.

It happened in week one with Christian McCaffrey. It happened last week with Brock Purdy and with George Kittle and it's happening with Brock Purdy again. Stop playing games with me, Kyle. Like, I'm just dreading Friday afternoon. Kyle's going to talk at about 435 p.m. Eastern. And he's going to be just as not the non-specific about. with his answers as he was this week. He's just to let everybody believe that there's still a chance. There's still a chance and we'll have to wait until game time for it to happen. Yeah, Kyle Shanahan is about as untruthful, I would say, with the media in terms of injuries.

Like, he goes out of his way. And I respect it in some way that he is so dedicated to the craft. His dad was exactly like that, too, which is just... They're poker players, though, Shanahan's. That they're both like that. Some injury news out of Tampa since we taped our preview to Cody Mocked there. good guard who's really developed. I mean, they're so good at developing these offensive linemen out for the season.

Surprise, because he finished out that game on Monday night. And now he is gone. And Luke Getakie is going to be out for multiple weeks. He's going to, I believe, injured reserve with a designation to return. So they're going to be without their right tackle. We don't know if Tristan Worf's is going to be back. And now losing Cody Mock. And, yeah, that might inspire me.

Go back to the Jets. on my pick show on Friday we'll see I don't know I mean they're a touchdown favorite missing three offensive linemen that's a big deal for their season even if it's not a huge deal for this week when they face the Jets it is and they've been absolutely decimated by injuries

in the offensive line you just ran through all of them but if there's one quarterback who's built to overcome that it's Baker Mayfield oh yeah you know who could use a quarterback like that you know who could use a quarterback like that Chuck Cleveland Browns Kevin's Devensky yeah oh gee let's rob it in why don't you a guy who put up a 40 bird

in the playoffs. You know what? I defend their decision to go away from Baker. Where he was... It was never going to work. It was never going to work with them. Sometimes you need a fresh start.

Maturity-wise. Maturity, injuries, and all that had been built up with him as a number one quarterback. If you really want to criticize a team for letting quarterbacks out of the building, I mean, the Carolina Panthers had Darnold and Baker in the building

at the exact same time. And no one really thought that they should keep them, but they did not know how to develop either one of them. All right, Shucky. That's it for the Shook Week. It was a big one.

You will be back with me. Big time assignments on Sunday. Me, you, and Patrick Claibon. But we will be back in the feed, as I mentioned, on Friday. Cynthia Freeland and I going through all of our picks. We did it. We remembered the yunk of the week. We got a fairly entertaining AFC East game in primetime.

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