NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bills Titans Recap & Arif Hasan on the Vikings

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal & Marc Sessler recap the crazy Monday Night Football game between the Buffalo Bills and the Tennessee Titans. Arif Hasan joins to talk where the Vikings sit during their bye week and the heroes preview the TNF matchup between the Broncos and Browns. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. The Around the NFL podcast is a figment of Mark Sessler's imagination. Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. here room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. A little bunker cast action today on Tuesday. How big Tuesday it is because Mark Sessler is not going to admit it because he's already on some level said he's thrown in the towel on this season, but he's nervous. Huge Browns

matchup coming up on Thursday. He's nervous. I'm annoyed is what I am. I mean, if this is a figment, And I'd like to also, is my, I'm having a bad hair day. Is that a figment of my imagination? I'm wearing a shirt that my parents sent me, you know, that was two, it's about two sizes, too large for me. But one of the bunker casts, as I'm sure you know, to some degree, is that people can't see anything other than this little box. And so the shirt looks presentable.

They can't see my hair from other angles. Why is it that when moms send shirts? And it's adorable and moms are amazing. but they always send them like seven sizes too big like what is up with that i think that's what they what they maybe want us to be like i'm always like are you eating well are you eating enough well it's like you've sent me a shirt that i could fit three of me in it's like this is a shirt for a 500 pound man man mother what is happening mother i just appreciate that mark you know doesn't have to go into work he's going to put it in the most comfortable thing he owns a button down you know checker

two sizes too big 100% polyester well i'm trying i've never worn this on our show before so i'm premiering it right now all right this is a good one good good pot good tuesday pod like the tuesday pod during the season chop it up a little bit have some fun arif hasan who covers the vikings for the athletic i'm i love this viking team i've always had a soft spot for the vikings but the complete stupidity of their 2021 season. It's just a big, stupid, dumb, fun season so far. And as they hit their by week at 3 and 3, this feels like a good time

to check in with Minnesota and Areef is a fun to the show. And I feel like he's going to give us some answers trying to figure out this team. So that's coming up. We also the aforementioned Cleveland Browns have a very important football game, a monumentally important football game uh coming up on thursday and we're going to get into that we're going to preview that game against the denver broncos two teams uh sitting at three and three and trying to figure out what happens next in their season but before that well before that how are you gregg i'm great

yeah how are you that's that's nice i'm good uh deb and keith i picked them up at the airport today so i got my parents in town so my mom could give me a triple x l size shirt in person so That'll be nice. And I'm going to have a couple Titos with the old man and enjoy the Mark Sessler Thursday night recap a little later this week. I'm just all sorts of excited. I mean, I feel like my mom stopped giving me shirts. I don't know, 15 years ago because I was a jerk to her.

You know, I was just like, stop giving me shirts. I mean, Greg, we've posited that you were born 15 years ago. So it's, you know, at some point, you know. Born age 32 standing up, yeah. No, but I think what's. what for me regenerated my mom sending me shirts as an adult male was being on the television

and she's like, oh, you look sharp in the shirt, you look handsome. I want you here. Mom, come there. Here is my mom, by the way. Here's Deb Hansen's. Just wanted to get her purse. That's Debbie. Hi, Deb. Love her. Good to see her. She's a legend. Hi, did you bring me a shirt? Actually, I can't tell you what I brought you to surprise. Oh, all right.

All right. What's better than moms? We ruined the surprise. All right. All right. Let's do some Monday night football. Alan, under center, sneaking. No, he did not make them.

I do not know. Let's see where they spot it. He did not make them. The Titans think they have stopped it. Let's wait. Alan tried to sneak. He got nothing or so it appeared. He got it.

They got it. They did it. They did it. Yes. Not yes. Not yes. Hill yes. Ha, ha.

When in doubt, get the radio call. Those guys are amazing homers, especially Mike Keith and Dave McGuinness for WGFX. Titans win. What a victory. What a victory for the Tennessee Titans, who, you know, a few weeks back, you know, fell on their butts against the Jets of all teams.

And now, in Monday night, they go toe to toe with the Buffalo Bills, Derek Henry goes mad running for a buck 43 and three touchdowns and they get that goal line stop at the end of the game and a lot of hype and talk around that game of the decision Sean McDermott made to go for it there.

Greg, your thoughts, let's start there. Let's start at that fourth down. It's fourth and less than a yard. The bills have a chance to tie the game. Instead, Sean McDermott leaves his offense on the field. The execution obviously wasn't there, but what did you think about the decision? Yeah, I like the decision.

You know, I don't love Josh Allen's decision to kind of veer left there necessarily. It looked like maybe a bigger hole on the right, but he slipped. I mean, a game comes down to them slipping. Greg, navigating the QB sneak strategy. I like it. I mean, it's up to the QB where he goes. It looks like there's a bigger hole there. Jeffrey Simmons is sitting there.

They kind of won. It wasn't atypical the night. I thought the Titans defensive line, even though they gave up a ton of yards and points, played pretty well on the interior. You know, it very much was a Mike Rable, our guys are bigger than your guys type of game, which worked on when the Titans were on offense, did not work when the Titans were on defense,

except in a couple spots they won up front, and they got a little lucky there. That's what you need to do to beat the best team in the league. I mean, in the fact that Josh Allen, he's 29 of 32 on third and fourth down sneaks career-wise, I like the decision personally. I think for me, coming out of this game, you know, it doesn't change how I feel.

about the bills. They're four and two. They easily could be, you know, with a few things different, five and one. They fit right there. They're still for me the class of the AFC. But I, you know, Mia Culpa, because on our Friday around the NFL broadcast show, and I'm getting killed by some people in the Tennessee area for this, I said that this game would be a primetime embarrassment for the Titans. And you're getting put into one of those little mash-up films of every talking head loser that, you know, predicted Doom for Tennessee. But you know, it's like I think that week one crushing by the Cardinals was a poison pill for a lot of people that just kind of wondered what Tennessee was going into this season. But it's

Derek Henry. And just watching him run, I feel like his touchdown, his early touchdown run that made it 7-6 was it's just sort of a thundering announcement every time he barrels down the field that way. And I made this comparison before to you guys. I'm trying to figure out like how to describe what I see when I watch him run and the closest thing I can come to is like a gigantic steel front door being dropped off the top of a building towards like, you know, 80, you know,

stories below onto crushing four or six cars. That's what he's capable of. You're making my mind do like inception level like gravity turns to try to figure out the comparison. But I get what you're saying, that he's a monster and a beast and pretty much unstoppable like gravity. You know, the Titans aren't,

like a great team. They might not even be a good team. They haven't had E.J. Brown and Julio Jones on the field together, almost at all, which is not. However, however, the one thing that the Titans are, are battle tested over the last couple of years, and they are afraid of no team. And I think we saw that if you put them in this way, Mark, I don't even remember you making that disparaging comment about their chances in this game. But that's why when you think about it, you take a step back, you realize the pedigree of the team

and what they've been able to do the last couple years. The fact that they're playing at home, the fact that it's under the lights and that crowd was going to go mad. Not that stunning in retrospect, but at the same time, it's the Bills who have been a much better team this season. So you just got to give the Titans a ton of credit,

and it really changes the shape of their season because I think they go from a team that a lot of people had questions about, whether it's the coaching staff or whether the roster is as good as it needs to be. Well, now I feel like this is going to be similar to a lot of the other Titans teams where, yes, they're not going to go 14 and 3 here.

but they'll go 10 and 7 or 11 and 6 and they could be trouble in the playoffs because they have, and I was thinking about this, boys. I'm curious where you come down on this. I'll start with you, Greg. In my football fandom, my choice for best running back of the century is Adrian Peterson. And when he was both before the knee injury and then that, especially that first year after the knee injury, I just thought he was special to the point where he was an all-time great. And this Derek Henry, it wasn't just yesterday, obviously,

But this run that he's been on for three years, if he stays healthy this year and puts together a record-breaking season and 2,000 yards again, is he the best running back of the last 25 years? Is this who we're watching in these games? I don't think so, but he's going to have the best numbers over a three-year stretch, the most dominant three-year stretch any runners ever had. But I don't think he's, that doesn't mean I don't think he's the best. Success rate matters to me. He has so many unsuccessful plays, And it's worth it. He's obviously a great runner.

But the fact that he piles up those one, two-yard runs before he ends up breaking him, I personally would take a guy like a Peterson or Ladanian-Thomeltson if we throw Falk into this century, certainly him ahead of him, because they're winning in so many different ways play after play. Now, that said, if he stays healthy, right now he's on pace for 500 touches. He's on pace. So he's breaking new bounds, even for the big. big dog, 450 carries.

If he can keep up that pace and he can lead the league in rushing touchdowns and attempts for the third straight year, I mean, it's never been done. So that part of it's unquestioned that like statistically no one's ever had a three-year dominant stretch. I went and looked for this. Like, OJ was pretty close. Tomlinson was pretty close. And Peterson, but never, never this dominant.

I would take Adrian Peterson along with Greg on that, but I love the idea of what Derek Henry is accomplishing during this span in 2021, not back when Peterson played when there were a laundry list of featured backs back then that you could count on fantasy-wise or whatever to get a certain amount of carries. I mean, it is just an atypical age for Derek Henry to subsist in and like, I love him. I love watching. I think they would have been blown out in the first half. Tanna Hill played one of the worst halves. He's played all year. um the bills get stopped two times inside the 10 you know one time josh allen misses a pretty open receiver in the end zone another time titans make a you know a good stop um but for the most part the bill's offense is doing what they wanted and if henry doesn't pop off that run and henry doesn't keep them afloat in these games like they're done like i want to see what this offense looks like with and with uh j brown and hulio healthy and together and i don't even think we got that last night

because they're going you know julio's going great aren't they done the last three plus years without Derek Henry? They're not who they are. But this is extra because the offensive line to me is a lot worse protecting Tana Hill and the defense is still showing very little signs of life. They had a couple last night, but not many. Taylor Luan got hurt in this game. Two more quick things on Henry. One, yeah, the long touchdown run changed that game. Two, his straight line speed on the touchdown run was the fastest according to the next gen stats and he running back has reached this season. So when we're talking about a unicorn, one of one, a guy of his size that is the fastest running back this season as well on a play, yes. That would be the speed of an iron

door being dropped off the building. It's the same actual speed. And how about this? I know that this will be completely left out of the lineup because it's an ill, it landed in an ill way for the two of you. Buffalo Special, why are we not trying for an helmet catch on that play there? I mean, are we just going to continue to sweep that sensation on the little bit of a special? wrong? That's why everybody does it. There's nothing unique about it. It's not it's ironic. The Philly Special actually isn't really special because everyone has it in their playbook. It was when it occurred. It has been copied. That something is copied does not mean that it wasn't initially an original site. I'm sorry, Mike. You'll never get those sandwiches.

But the listeners can keep on coming at it. And here's my last known on Buffalo Boys is for all and you check under the hood and all the advanced analytics says, this is the best team in football. They're a four and two record. That's fine. They're going to be fine in the AFC East. I think this is a 11-12 win team. They will be in contention, I think, for the buy.

So everything's, I think, good for Buffalo. But it is interesting to note that they're number one or close to it in almost every major offensive category, except for red zone conversion, where they're 26. Now, I think they're too good to not get that straightened out. And I would imagine that Sean McDermott's going to be working hard on that to figure that out. But we saw it in this game, Greg, you noted it. Killed them. Including their game ending on a stall inside the 10-yard line.

That's something that they need to get better at. Right. They lost the fourth quarter 10 to nothing. They, it felt like they could have put up about 45, 50 points. They didn't. And I think this is a bad matchup for them. They got, you know, the Titans put up a 40 burger on them last year, too. They are a lightweight, faster flowing defense.

And the Titans aren't that complicated. They are just big, especially on offense. They are trying to bully you, and it seems to work. It's just another reminder, like, no matter how good your defensive stats are, you're probably going to be mediocre if you play against a really good offense who's playing well. Because every stat was that they're the best defense in the league, but it's really just they've played pretty lackluster offenses. And when they got up against a team that was playing pretty well in the second half,

and they got a little help by their defense keeping them in there, they got run over. And you've got to love this. Go ahead. No, no, go finish, Greg. No, mine was I was going to veer off into some game broadcast criticism, which is, you know, my special. All right, we'll circle back to that, Mark. Go ahead. I was just going to say that, I mean, you have to love where the bills are set up.

I mean, after the by, they play the dolphins, jaguars, and jets. So they're about to be seven and two. All right. Now, Greg, please on your broadcasting tips. Let's hear some Greg game broadcast honking. Well, we've gone back and forth about this crew, and all I've got to say is they didn't discuss whether that was a good decision or not to go for it in the moment. Like, literally, it didn't come up.

They didn't explain the situation. They had a timeout to work with, too, in there that ended up being taken, I believe, by the Titans, didn't come up, just sort of overwhelmed by the moment. I put that on the play-by-play more to set it up for the thing, but it's crazy to watch. It's a crazy situation. Overwhelmed by the moment feels a little strong, but I see what you're saying. I don't know, maybe this isn't letting them up the hook. It just like happened.

It literally just happened. Like the conversation's happening on Twitter, but it's not happening in the broadcast. And that was one of, you know, that is a moment that like coaches would have never gone for that in the past. Right. He did it with no hesitation here.

It decides the whole game. And it took until after the play of being like, I like that. To your point on that. It's bad play by play. It is the job of one of those three dudes to bring it up. And also, the reason why you bring it up is,

not just to say, oh, by the way, you can kick a field goal here because the audience knows that. But I think it does speak to a larger shift, as Greg notes there, in the way head coaches, or at least the smart ones now operate, which is if the game's on the line or I need a huge play and I could choose the conservative route or I could put the game in the hands of my best player, you're seeing that more and more now. And that's what McDermott did. And maybe it's becoming so common that the guys didn't think to bring it up. rather than they were overwhelmed.

But I think it's worth it's worthy bringing up. I think if I don't know if McDermott got killed for it after the game. If he did, shame on whoever did it because that's just, I think if you're the bills and you're walking in that tunnel, you're thinking to yourself, man, eight or nine times out of ten, we win this game. And it just didn't come up our way. Because, man, these prime time games,

and it happened last week with Baltimore and Indy, they're weird. These are strange games. in there, like what I do with the power ringing? Sometimes I'm trying to figure out, like, do you have to add, like, that weird, like, Monday night voodoo when trying to figure out what it means for a team and what does it say about them?

Because just weird stuff tends to happen in these games. Here's what it says, though. The bill's defense didn't get a stop. Literally no stops in the second half with a chance to win on the road. So that was a little surprising to me. Count the truly dominant defenses in football right now. Like, who's out there?

Truly dominant? Even the ones we talk up, like we talked up the church. The Chargers are a bunch earlier in the season. Yeah, I think there's some that can create problems, but there's no truly dominant one. I mean, the Browns, the Browns are a defense that have struggled, the Chargers, the Rams have had their struggles, like all the teams that you kind of circled,

even the Bucks, I know it's a lot of injuries here too. I put the Bucks in that. I trust the Bucs to figure out whatever issues they encounter. I don't think the Bills defense is a total mirage, by the way. It's just, you know, bad match. They got beat in a bad matchup. The Titans need Julio to stay out there, I feel like, for them to realize there. That seems, it's getting harder and harder to do as he gets older.

A.J. Brown also has some chronic health issues. So there's, you know, with the Titans, everything has to, I'm very happy for Grave Digger. I'm sure that was a thrilling win. It must be cool when that happens for your team. But also, a lot of things are going to have to go right for the Titans to make a, a deep trip into the playoffs. I mean, it was a heroic performance by A.J. Brown, by all accounts, Derek Henry said after the game, he's just glad they had enough toilet paper

in the facility to deal with the food poisoning that A.J. Brown was dealing with in how much he was pooping, I guess. I think that's what he was suggesting. Yes, he got it from Chipotle. He said he will not be getting a, any sponsorship probably, you know, calling Chipotle out, but it was, it was Chipotle. And he goes seven for 91. He was his best game of the year. Turn my stomach a little bit. That's some graphic toilet paper talk in a big spot.

Right. As if Derek Henry's in charge of the toilet paper supply inside the Titans building, he had, he couldn't have been farther away from that mission. Whoever supplied all that toilet paper to bring up. One of the great toilet paper stories ever in NFL history was the last time the Jets went to London against the dolphins, they said, you know, We've heard stories about the quality of the toilet paper in England. So they shipped 350 rolls of toilet paper to London to take care of their heinous in a big spot. And they won. That's focus on what matters from the Jets organization.

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And to do that, we will welcome back certified friend of the show. Listen, not a member of the Hit It and Quit It Brigade. And our live show is in London. People are asking, who are the guests that are on the Hit It and Quitit list? maybe we shared maybe we didn't you'll never know one person who's back because we like him is arif hasan who covers the vikings for the athletic and uh arif welcome back to the around the NFL podcast it's been a couple months yeah man thanks for having me back on I mean we have to be the only like national podcast is just like man we haven't talked to any you know kind of team

reporters in the in the country in a long time like where do we go first it's Vikings it's during the bye week it's beautiful yeah it's a three and three team absolutely The team is like, it is fascinating. It is a fascinating team weirdly, though. I love the Vikings. I've enjoyed watching them, really, for the balance of the Kirk Cousins era. There's just all sorts of stuff going on around this team. And you've been covering a Vikings team this year that has been all over the map,

where they've looked terrible, they've looked great. They've had late game meltdowns, late game heroics. So three and three, I guess, is about right from where they are right now. But where do you see this team in terms of, like, a ceiling and a floor because it's kind of hard to figure that out where we stand. Yeah, like sometimes it just feels like judging teams by records leaves so much information on like the cutting room floor, right? Because there's like three, three teams that are average, right? And then there's three and three teams that are completely all over the place that you could just

be anything, right? And that's exactly what the Vikings are. You know, when the offense is rolling, it's a really good offense, your top eight, you know, maybe offense, maybe even better than that. And the defense has looked really good. You know, Patrick Peterson's not healthy anymore, but, you know, when he was healthy, it's looked really good at the past, you know, a couple of games. And so, you know, if that happens at the same time, it's a really good team that's got a shot to make the playoffs. But, you know, that hasn't happened at the same time. Either the defense is carrying them or the offense is carrying them, hasn't been both.

And so when those things kind of collapse, you know, they're a bottom tier team. You know, the offense can't get going. Play action's not working. Deep shots aren't there. Defense is giving up, you know, big plays. So, you know, I kind of wish I had an answer to kind of, you know, what trajectory the Vikings are on, but like it is a wide band of outcomes. I mean, I could see them pulling off a run of like five straight wins.

I mean, a tough part of the schedule to do that. But, you know, I could see that. I could see them doing five straight losses. I could see them losing by multiple scores. I could see them winning by multiple scores. Anything is on the table with this team. Total chaos. Yeah.

I think it's got to be the best Kirk Cousins has looked to me in Minnesota. And that's a reasonably high bar. But I just feel like he's playing so well right now. And he's playing a little freer. I mean, they keep putting him in positions to set up a game-tying or game-winning field goal. And if I'm right, I think he's 4-4-for-4. You know, Joseph isn't 4-4-for-4, but I think he's gotten him in that position.

Well, he had the Brown's game. That was the only time that he wasn't able to do it. Right. And that was like a Dalvin'clock. Like, yeah. Yeah, that was a little different. But, like, when it was just like, hey, we need a field goal, it's not screwed up a game-winning drive attempt.

Yeah. Right. And did, and at the end of that game last week, I actually, I want, you, since we've talked about this so much on the TV show, to break down the shove with Zimmer, because I'd like to talk about Cousins' play, but the interpersonal dynamics between the shove

and the moment that Zimmer's face appeared to be truly angry at Kirk Cousins, or just like what is happening? I'm getting shoved right now. Like, what do you think is going on? Let me just tee it up for the audience that might not know. This was the conclusion of the week five game when Greg Joseph hit the field

goal to save them from absolute horror home loss to the Lions Reef. take it away. Yeah, I think, I think Cousins is just like trying to be a dude. He's just a guy trying to be a dude. I don't know that he's got a lot of experience in that department, so, you know, he initiates context. Zimmer, I don't think, likes it when other people initiate context. I think, like, reflexively, you know, he's reacting to that. But, yeah, I think they're kind of enjoying the moment and they're caught up in the emotions and Zimmer's got a reflexive response. It doesn't help that, like, the one guy is holding Zimmer back and that makes

everything look like 10 times more like dynamic than it actually is like Zimmer's about to like throw one on cousins and of course the next week there's a there's a shot obviously taken by the vikings but there's a shot of them coming out of uh of panther stadium into the tunnel where they're like waltzing or something i don't know but i i feel like that is like a direct response to the to the weird coverage surrounding which i entirely deserved weird coverage by the way surrounding the you know cousins and zimmer's reaction to the game winning field goal. I would ask you this. I mean, it's like the, I think there's these camps that, you know, now everyone is in love with Kirk Cousins over the last couple weeks. That's fine.

But it's been long stretches of time where it's the Kirk Cousins is the reason the Vikings can't go from kind of good to great. I would ask you, though, is maybe, you know, you look around the league and we've got all these young, aggressive coaches. And I listen to your pod, Norse code, which I think is a great name for a Vikings pod. And you talked about even watching last night's game where like, oh, Wait, there are fans out there, like a Titan fan, that has the experience of just watching their team go in and do what they do well, focus on their strengths, and manhandle someone else the way that you'd hope. And you're looking at the Vikings, and it's like this hot and cold thing. Is it actually maybe Zimmer, who is the guy who's on my radar is holding this whole operation back?

Because to me, it feels like someone who's stuck in like 1996, while the rest of the league is evolving and changing. And he's also very cantankerous. I don't know. Like, is he happy? Oh, I get it. Is anyone happy with him? What's going on here? I get it.

And thanks for the podcast blog. It means I don't have to do it. Yeah. No, Zimmer's like really weird because, you know, in some aspects of football, he's, like, way ahead of the curve. He's, like, a really innovative defensive mind. He's very flexible when it comes to that defense. I mean, they've changed and shifted their coverage rules, their coverage shells, what they like to do on defense so many times.

I mean, a lot of people known for the double A gap look, but there was like a period of time in the middle of his tenure with the Vikings, where he didn't do that very much at all. He just found other ways to create one-on-one matchups. And a lot of people are taking what he does from a front perspective and applying it, you know, to defenses nowadays. And so there's some areas where he's very innovative, very adaptable. And there's some areas where he's just like, yeah, you got to run the ball to win. I mean, that's just how football is. And so you just kind of have to, like, figure out where he is in some respects in that regard. Last year, they were one of the more aggressive teams on Fourth Down. If you take a look at, you know,

the various bots out there about, you know, is it good to go. go forward or not. The Vikings were like a top 10 team on fourth down aggressiveness. This year, they're like third to last. So sometimes it's just like very weird to figure out kind of where the Vikings are. I don't know that Zimmer is directly holding back the offense from being kind of a pass forward, innovative offense. But I know that his presence kind of does that because the only types of offensive coordinators that he's ever going to hire or bring on board are the types of offensive coordinators that agree with him in the running game. So I don't think he's like interfering with like the way the game is called and asking for them to do this in the game plan.

He tried doing that with John D. Filippo, and that did not work out, so he just fired him. And so he brings in offensive coordinator that, and you take a look at like what Pat Schumer did after he left. You take a look at what Kevin Sfansky's done after Zimmer's left, and they're doing the same stuff that they did, you know, with Zimmer. So it's entirely about kind of who he's bringing into the building and the culture that he's trying to establish, which is, I think, from an offensive point of view, a little bit Now, Clint Kubiak comes from that tradition.

He is doing some kind of newer stuff. The Vikings are doing motion a little bit more. I think they've hit league average and pre-snap motion rates. They're much more willing to have three receivers on the field at a time, which is, like, what an innovation that is. But, like, it is a little bit more modern. The Vikings are getting rid of the ball really quickly now. Like, I think Cousins has one of the faster times to throw, first time in his career that he's ever been in the top 10 in that category. So they are doing some new stuff.

But within that framework of, yeah, I mean, definitely. And Cove and Cook gets the ball 30 times you win the game. That's just math. Like, that's the framework that sometimes that they're still operating under. And, you know, back to the shove. I mean, it's kind of like the main reason I wanted to ref on the show today. I'm sorry. But Zimmer and cousins, they like each other.

Let's be honest. Let's like, just be real. They can. Has any quarterback that's played for Zimmer, like, has he, like, really liked it? Oh, Teddy and Zimmer were close. Like, like, Teddy and Zimmer were like father and son, honestly. Yeah. Like, Zimmer was real broken up about the fact that they had to move on from Teddy, which, I mean, did they have to?

I don't know. I think he's kind of maybe transferred that resentment onto cousins. Like, I think that's kind of an unfair, like, you know, son-in-law is sort of like you have to live up to these expectations sort of thing. But, yeah, I mean, we asked, because the Broncas held joint practices with the Vikings this year, and we asked Zimmer about Teddy, because of course we did. why wouldn't we ask about that? And he just, like, went off, like, about how much he loved the kid, which is great. I mean, you're right. Everybody loves Teddy.

But it's, like, very much, like, when cousins gets hit, like, in the head when he's sliding or something like that, yeah, Zimmer will be mad and you'll yell. But, like, when that happened to Teddy, especially, I think, against the Rams a couple of years ago, Zimmer went on to the field. He was ready to fight some players. He yelled at refs three different times in the same game. I mean, this is poetry. Greg here, so just, you know, keep going.

This is such a Kirk Cousin's storyline, though, because this was his thing in Washington. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, the coaches and the players, they don't really like love the guy. Has his level of play helped change that? I think so. I think in Minnesota, because they obviously, like Jefferson and Oz, like, they obviously must respect him. He's delivering some dimes right now, and he's coming up pretty big and big moments.

I think Osborne especially, right? Like a guy that didn't even get an offensive snap last year. had like less than 600 yards in his final year of college. Like, yeah, no, absolutely. Osborne, I think, is probably on board of what Cousins is doing right now. But, yeah, like, I think that he's earned their respect. But I think respect earned solely through level of play is, like, fairly thin ice, right? Because that could just fall off if your play falls off.

Whereas, like, you know, Teddy won a locker room, right? Like, he just, like, he's not even playing all the well and people love him, right? And so that's, I think, a little bit harder. to lose that kind of respect. So that's kind of the question, right? If Cousins kind of folds, right? And he's a streak of quarterback. Like, you're right, especially the beginning of this year.

Cousins was on this incredible hot streak. Now it's like a little bit less true, but he's still kind of up there in terms of like a lot of statistics and like you said, clutch moments. But if the streak turns the other direction, which historically it has, you know, is he going to be able to maintain that respect? I mean, I've, Justin Jefferson's rookie year. Yeah, and these are just field outbursts that they might not mean much. But there was like a time where you got caught on the mic, you know, yelling that he was open and Kirk didn't throw it to him, right?

I believe, you know, he cursed a little bit of a blue streak as well. Imagine Kirk Cousins was actually a bad quarterback. He'd be like the most hated man in NFL history. Oh, he's out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that's the problem. I think you have to be like exactly that good to, like, create that level of resentment, right?

Because you get the feeling that you're like, because people didn't like hate Christian ponder. They were just like, I would like to move on, but he's a good guy. it's not his fault with cousins it's like i know you can do this why aren't you doing this i see a new kirk like on that that touchdown to osborne his underneath receiver was open and it's like kirk kirk went oh yeah he went for the he went for the kill shot he's like i'm not leaving this up to gregg joseph or letting zimmer run the ball on third and long to set up a 50 yard field i'm like going to go for the win right now not take the first down i do feel like he's he's playing like a little different a little bit he's scrambling more he's scrambling a little bit he's scrambling a little bit

He's playing a little bit freer. I would just say, let's talk in a month. But, okay, I mean, I'm with you. I like being part of this. Mark's mad because I said, like, you know, Kirk Cousins is like a, you know, Baker Mayfield's future if he's lucky right now. I mean, at this point, he would want, you should want to be Kirk Cuthers. Now you're just starting fights with a guest on the show.

We don't have time for this. I get it. I get. I think there's a lot of cousins in the league, right? There's, you've got your Garoppelos and your Mayfields and your Tannahills, right? They all have various degrees of how much they're willing to play, kind of looser with the rules, like Mayfield and Tane a little bit looser, grapple is a little bit tighter,

but yeah, no, I get it. I'm on board. It's just like, it's a tough thing to say, well, Baker's, like, plugging through an injury, probably shouldn't plug through. And we're going to talk about Baker in a minute with our TNF preview, but before we say goodbye to Arif, I'm going to do it. I know you just said they're capable of winning five in a row.

They're capable of losing five in a row, and that's certainly true, but at the end of the day, we come to you for the bottom line, and I'm setting the Vikings over under final win total at nine and a half. Where are you coming in? It was like six more games with, okay. Yeah, I see it.

I see it. I'm going to take... The over. I'll take... I'll take the over. I don't know. It's more fun if I take the over, so I'll just take the over. They're a playoff team then.

Because that NFC, it's very murky. You know, you have those superpower teams at the very top, and then there's a lot of room for you to win, you know, nine games might get you in a wild yard. Yeah, and the underlying numbers for, like, the Packers are not that great. Like, there's an opportunity. I'm not saying they're better than the backers, but there's an opportunity. They have five more division games, which is a big chunk of the schedule. But they also have the Cowboys at the Ravens and Chargers, at the 49ers, the Rams are in there.

Like, this is just like a lot of, a lot more insanity to come. I do feel like this was a good choice, Dan, like the Vikings are just going to be a great supporting character in this 2020 season. I don't know. I don't know how it's going to play up, but they really were. Yeah, they're Jughead for sure. they're such a jughead team and this is good for a reef as the beat guy but like doesn't it feel in the stars that this particular

and the Vikings are infamous for having a crushing losses across the spectrum regular season in playoffs this more than any other Vikings team seems like they're built for some type of Greek tragedy of epic proportions come January I hope it doesn't happen because Vikings fans don't deserve

more of that but I'm a little worried about this team in particular oh yeah they're setting up all kinds of B plots Yeah, no, for sure. All right, yes, check out Norse Code, Reef's podcast on the Minnesota Vikings. Also, that wide left podcast, this guy's got content all over the place. Aref Asan, thank you, buddy, for joining us and enjoy the rest of the season.

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Relax. We enjoy it. And we feel like not just Vikings fans enjoy it as well. It's good to get a little deeper. We literally talk about all 32 teams except for the bi-week teams. three different times every week on the Thursday preview on the Sunday recap

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That sounds like Greg's solo pod not something that we're choosing to be on But now what you're really here for Brown's Talk on the Around the NFL podcast Thursday night football, Denver Broncos at Cleveland Browns, two, three and three teams. Once upon a time, the Browns were three and one, the Broncos were three and O. But both squads have fallen on hard times. It was announced on Thursday that Nick Chubb will not play on Thursday night.

We already know Kareem Hunt, who suffered that calf injury late in Sunday's loss. He is on the shelf for an extended period. weeks. He'll be out, unfortunately. And then you have the saga, Mark Sessler of Baker Mayfield, who revealed to the media this week that he had, you know, he suffered the labrum tear. It's a complete tear of the labrum. He's now telling us. And, you know, the injury that he suffered on Sunday against the Cardinals is added complexity to what's going on. And yet, he had a quote today that I'm the one who decides if I play or not. And I am playing. I'm paraphrasing a little bit there

is there somebody that might need to step in to protect Baker from Baker I don't know if I need to go there Well I ask you the question Well I mean but I don't because I think it's spinning it like Baker's being reckless and out of control I think he just desperately wants to play the same way Not true the same way that's not true

The medical professionals can stop him from playing If they if they believe he shouldn't play they will stop him from playing So I would want that out of out of a quarterback that you're going to need people to drag him off the field to not get in there. And I don't think every NFL quarterback is that way. Do I think he should? I mean, I guess, you know, that's up to them, but I think that he's been hindered. I mean, you saw how much he was in severe pain after he re-injured it in that last game. I think it does affect what you could ask Baker Mayfield to do on things like rollouts and certain, you know, some of the stuff that I think

he was more effective at last year. The percentage of those plays they've run has gone down a bunch in the last couple of weeks. And, you know, he's in a tough spot. You look at the Browns, and, you know, if the both teams are three and three, there's no question that, you know, I'm seeing stuff already on Twitter that the Browns are the most disappointing team in the NFL.

I mean, injuries, you cannot blame everything on injuries. But in this game, they've been stripped of the identity we've latched onto all offseason and through last year, which is the best offensive line in the league, which may not have either tackle. We'll see. They haven't put either of those guys on IR, which I think is,

notable that they're going to be playing soon, but this Thursday, we don't know. Best backfield in the league, completely gone. You know, you just, you've got wide outs that are banged up. So who's going to step up? Is it going to be the defense that was completely overwhelmed and flamed by the Cardinals? Against this Teddy Bridgewater Broncos offense, maybe, but they've got plenty of weapons, too. I don't like the set up for the Browns at all. I think the Browns, after last year coming out of that season saying that Kevin

Stefansky, outside of a couple wipeouts early on by AFC. North foes was the coach of the year and someone that you could trust implicitly with game plans week after week has had some issues in this season up and down. I mean, I love them going forward on fourth downs, but they have been terrible on these fourth down attempts. It's cost them points. You don't veer away from that strategy. I get it. You'd be absolutely removed from the media to suggest as much in 2021. Everyone wants to go for it on fourth and everything. And that's who they are, but they've not been successful. And a lot of that is on Baker Mayfield. And Baker Mayfield has not played well in three weeks. The Chargers game, he played well, but like he did

not do what you need a quarterback to do at the very end. I'm with you with on that guys. I'm not trying to stick up for him left and right. This is a very tough spot. And Von Miller before, you know, today basically announced that he is going to destroy whoever, whatever human being they attempt to put it left tackle. For the Browns is directly correlated to how long his monologue is. Well, no, because, you know, you get one shot on this show to talk. So then it's over. But I'll tell you something else like it's not nerves it's not nerves it's like they are you can have as many shots as you want if anything i feel i feel honestly and you guys may deal with your fandom differently like my my move is typically to start to detach emotionally because i i don't really like where this

is going the vibe is ill right now i don't like the vibe of the browns at all i told you that going into the cardinals game they don't stack up and now they're completely depleted well this this matchup sets up because the Broncos are, if not the worst, among the worst teams in terms of pass rush, in terms of pass rush win rate. So you would think you don't get after Baker too much. I'd love to see, you know, if those tackles are playing. I think they both might. We don't know.

That's a huge factor. The issue with Baker's injury, though, and saving him from himself is he's the one that keeps getting himself hurt. His number one fault as a player is getting sacked. He is second worst in the NFL. in like a stat PFF has, which is like converted pressure into sacks. He's one of the most sack quarterbacks in the league, and yet he's one of the least pressured quarterbacks in the league.

You can see it. He thinks he's Russell Wilson. He thinks he's Aaron Rogers. The play he got hurt on was a play. He just held it forever, and he thinks he's going to make these plays. And he does sometimes. I mean, he couldn't have made that Hail Mary without great escapeability and an incredible arm. But more than those great, like, he doesn't make them at a rate that it's worth it.

and he gets sacked a lot, and a lot of the time it's on him. Like, they have protected him well, and the calibration of when to let go of the ball has not been there this year, especially on Sunday against the Cardinals. Like, those sacks were on him, and so that's, it's a lot of things. It's receivers.

It's the offensive game plan, but, like, that's the number one thing I think he needs to fix. And I think the Broncos are a great team to do it against because they're really struggling to do anything defensive. We thought they'd be a good defensive team and they're giving up 30 a week right now. They're banged up too at linebacker. Denver has lost three straight games

and yeah, they're not getting after the quarterback. They're struggling to protect Teddy Bridgewater. Bridgewater, when he's pressured, is making mistakes. He had three interceptions, one of them in garbage time, but he didn't play well at all last week.

He was sacked five times. They're missing opportunities. So it's like, my take on the Browns because, yes, they are banged up, A lot of teams are banged up. The brands are especially banged up right now, but you just no-showed against the Chargers. You're in your building.

It's a short week. You got a struggling Denver team. Miles Garrett, clean up, kick ass, win this game on your own. Baker, if you're playing, find a way to get Odell Beckham involved. Make some big plays. Get a couple splash plays. You're not going to score a ton of points to beat the Denver Broncos, but you're going to need to score a couple touchdowns.

And I think there are, there's still star talent intact in Cleveland. and at home on a short week against a struggling team win a game and then take the mini by and try to get healthy. I think this is like a survive in advance because I think if Cleveland doesn't win this game, all the things that you're saying, Mark, about kind of the bad vibes and the bad juju around it, it's going to amplify and they're going to be really,

if you're hearing buzz now about the Browns being one of the most disappointing teams, if they lose at home on Thursday of the Broncos, it's going to be amplified times two. So they've got to find a way in this game. And to your point with Miles Garrett, I mean, Teddy was sacked five times. He took 13 hits against the Raiders. The Raiders blitzed on 3.6% of the time that game. So, you know, that's another quarterback that's taking punishment. And this defense for all, for how stacked their secondary is, they have given up 23 pass plays that are 20 plus yards, which is worse than all but seven other teams in the league. So there should be opportunities. This defense has not become what we thought it would be in August. Not yet. and their offensive line is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. So Miles Garrett does need to show up. He has to have one of those games where you unquestion or look at him as a defensive

player of the year type candidate. Three sacks, force a thumble, go nuts. Even last week, though, I thought their defense kept them competitive in a way that the offense couldn't stack up. There was a stretch in that game where they forced a couple three-and-outs in a row and they stop the Cardinals from scoring touchdowns on short fields either two or three times in a row. And that was like a five drive set there. And that's where the offense needs to, like it's 2021.

Your offense needs to take advantage during that stretch. You can't ask for that much more against the Cardinals. If you throw away the Chargers game when they didn't have Clowny or Ward and they really were injured on defense or getting healthier now, I think they've generally shown they can beat some bad teams or that they can make a difference. And right now the Broncos offense is mediocre at best. You're counting on Tim Patrick and Cortland Sutton to make plays. Giovante Williams is absolutely a good running back. But this is a mid-level offense that was counting on their defense to be very good.

Instead, the defense is as bad or worse than the offense. I do think the Browns have more players. I think they have more ways they can beat you. I'd love to know that the tackles are playing or even one of them. That certainly would help the pass a game against Denver. But I do think the matchup works out okay because Denver right now they just can't get after the passer

and I think the Browns will be able to score enough to win. They got to win this game. They are favored, not by a ton, but if Baker's playing, you've got to win this game. You can't go three and four, you know, when you're really honestly playing a team in Denver that is beatable no matter. The injuries are one thing.

I'm not putting this all in the injuries. I mean, you're right, Dan, that there are five or six teams that are scattered on that front right now. Well, the Ravens, you know, have 17 players on IR that leads the league they're not all premier players but you're right like their position groups were wiped out going into the year look at the broncos where's the excuses right the broncos are very similar and teddy bridgewater showed the strain of it last week like

he collapsed in that game he he played an awful game by far his worst where are we at gregg on the team of uh was it thall the team of thaw team of t h a i mean they're not playing well i thought the defense would be a lot better they're hurt um that you know they're going to get jerry jes Judy back, which I think will help, but it's not going to be for this game. It doesn't look like. And that was what was going to make them special. Like all of these guys to throw to plus a good defense. The defense, like, isn't good.

That surprises me. I think Fongio maybe can figure some things out. They're still healthy in the secondary. They shouldn't be this bad. But they need to win this game, too. This is kind of a, you know, boat sailing and direct different, you know. Bork in the road game. Two, yeah, that's right.

Right, that's it. Fongio's answering questions about his job future already, which is not surprising. If the Broncos could win this game, they get to four and three again, they hope they get Judy back. And like, you just hope that this is a bad stretch of the season. If their defense doesn't get better than this, I mean, they're cooked. Pinch yourself, Greg. You got Gino in primetime, like three or four weeks in a row here. Gino versus James in prime time.

Gino versus James. You got, and now you're going to get the team of Thal. in prime time against Mark's brownies. And by the way, Mark, I'll be listening in like the rest of you. Mark says he has a special guest joining him for the Thursday night recap. So, I mean, I feel like win or lose, you're going to want to check out and see, get Sessler's temperature. Well, by the way, it wasn't some sort of power move where I removed you from the TNF recap. This was something, you know, behind the scenes.

You have family there. So I'm hoping that you're doing with that. No, you said you will take a seat and I will make a power move. Those are your exact words. That sounds like something I'd say, right? Yeah. Well, I hope it works out for you, Mark. Well, isn't it better for you if it goes terribly, terribly poor?

And then I have to respond to that. We're all on one podcast. We want it to go well. I just, you're really building up this special guest. Well, now, now. I think I know who it is. I'm not going to guess, though. Now maybe too much.

Like, I mean, they are a very special, you know, individual. But I think they would be annoyed that I'm pumping them up to this degree, possibly. Very interesting. All right. stuff. Check it out. And Connie Fox will be, of course, anchoring the coverage on NFL Network. So make sure you watch that as well. All right. Good stuff. Tuesday show.

In the books. Anybody have any final thoughts? It's good. Greg, get your expenses done from our trip to London? I have not done that now. Oh, people should know. We didn't get a chance to address it on Sunday night, and I'm afraid that I'll forget Thursday, and then people will just be confused. But I got some, you know, breaking news here, Ricky. This was the terms of the trade between Greg and I.

Greg, of course, famously, last Thursday got jumped in the draft because of a hesitation, like 2007 Viking style. I swooped in, I took his beloved Chargers' Ravens ball game. Greg came to me privately, hat in hand. He said, listen, we've got to make this happen. We got to make a trade here. I need that game. And I saw leverage and I exercised it.

And I said, okay, you can have that game on Sunday. That will be your game that you're primary watching. And I get to jump you at any point in the season going forward in drafts three times on three occasions. So I have three jumps of Greg Rosenthal starting in week. week seven through the playoffs we're really week seven or week 18 so keep an eye on that because i'm hoping to make the jumps really uh really hurt quite frankly i want to i want it really to stick in greg side i knew you were and the chargers and ravens it wasn't even a good game like what would be the uh what would be the best for the show because i said you could just jump me the

whole rest of the season but you to your credit as a host realized like yeah there's not as much excitement in that, it'll feel more drama with this setup. I mean, Greg, I have to ask. I mean, A, you know, your first lever pull was in Mike Tice fashion to completely miss the pick. And then you turn around and overcompensate, Dan, to an extreme level. The Greg's inner front office is, you know, I would say at this point, in turmoil. It's Belichekian.

I live in the moment, though. And then ultimately, I realize, like, if you just told me I'm picking third, the rest of of the season every week. I'm fine with that. Just give me the game I wanted this. Sure, downplay it. You know, downplay it as you as you need to. That's fine. Fine with that. All right. Good stuff. You do get the turn. You know, you get the, you get the, what was that? That was the snake. That was a snake? I don't know. I can't make a snake. That's the snake. All right. Schedule. Thursday. Preview show. around the NFL broadcast.

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you want to be on, you don't want to miss the wave. That's my surfing analogy. Matt Money Smith probably could do it better. Get on the board because we're doing huge numbers week after week. I think you nailed it from a kind of a nature more importantly, it's a good show.

It's a good show. You know, we're getting better, and it's a good show. Is it a good show because it does huge numbers, or does it do huge numbers because it's a good show? Don't ask questions. Don't ask questions. We're just, we're riding that, you know. Sunday, we'll be back to the flagship show.

Direct deposit. Put it right there. Thank you to Arif Hassan. This is Dan Hansa signing off for Ricky Hollywood, who I think's alive? I don't know. We haven't heard much for her. She's been under the weather.

Ricky, you with us? Yeah, no, I'm here. I made it. I survived. Are you physically? in a good place. Yes. Yeah, it took about a full week.

No one can get sick. No one can get injured. Never again. These four people together, we must. We need to get on a Cal Ripkin-like streak starting now. All right. Dan Hans is signing off for Cal Ripkin. He was a baseball player, played many games in a row.

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