NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - BREAKING: Buffalo Bills Fire Head Coach Sean McDermott — Where Does Buffalo Go From Here?
Episode Date: January 19, 2026Gregg Rosenthal and Ollie Connolly provide instant reaction and analysis following the bombshell news of Sean McDermott's divorce from the Buffalo Bills organization. The duo discusses the power dynam...ic in Buffalo, key candidates for this now-coveted opportunity and McDermott's future in the NFL. In the end, reigning MVP Josh Allen will work with a new head coach for the first time in his career.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to NFL Daily, where when you think this coaching cycle can't get any crazier, it gets crazier.
I'm Greg Rosenthal.
In my garage on a Monday morning on the West Coast, it is evening in Manchester where Ali Connolly joins us.
You can check out Ollie's work at the read optional substack, but we got them on last second because we had some breaking news on Monday morning.
Sean McDermott is out, fired after nine seasons as the Buffalo Bills head coach, Brandon Bean,
is not only staying as general manager, but he has been promoted to president and, I don't know,
some sort of VP of football operations.
So we didn't want to wait all the way until Tuesday afternoon to talk about this.
Ali, I have a feeling you have all sorts of conflicting.
feelings about this after watching the ups and downs of what was, you know, a really successful
nine-year run for Sean McDermott in Buffalo.
I do have a lot of opinions, and I'm operating on three hours sleep, so I cannot be
held responsible for any takes during the show, but that makes the show fun.
It's a decision where I'm not in any way shocked.
I am surprised this was the year they decided to do it after successive failures in the
postseason.
This probably being the second most heartbreaking one after 13 seconds, but this is the second.
is not the year Shaw McDermott deserve to lose his job. It would be previous cycles where you could
say, okay, maybe it's time for the full reset. And if you're going to do a full reset, keeping Brandon Bean
and promoting him, to me, it's just ludicrous. Yeah, it is a lesson in managing up that, you know,
this is true in all walks of life, not just the NFL. But sometimes it's not the guy or woman who
deserves to keep or get the job. It's the one that does the best job keeping the job and
cozying up to ownership in this case. Speaking of ownership, we'll just quickly read the statement
that the bills had sent out on Monday morning announced that Sean McDermott has been relieved of
his duties of head coach. Sean has done an admiral job of leading our football team for the
past nine seasons, said owner Terry Bagua. So I
and being a little bit of a jerk here,
but to have a typo,
five words into the statement,
which was like an hour after the insiders had it,
that you fired your head coach,
is absolutely brutal.
Yeah, Sean has done an admiral job of leading the team.
But I feel like we are in need of a new structure
within our leadership to give this organization
the best opportunity to take our team to the next level.
We owe that to our players and to Bill's mafia.
And I do think beyond the typo,
it is really relevant here, Ali, that Terry Pagula, the owner, led with the new structure.
So Brandon Bean is now president of football operations and GM overseeing all parts of the football operation
and will be leading the search to hire the next head coach.
And so it really is a decision that Brandon Bean is the guy.
And I think you talked about, you know, deserve.
And I thought McDermott did a better job this year.
But the roster has been lacking, especially adding blue chip talent over the last few years.
So it is fascinating to me that Bean not only stays, but gets an upgrade because there was always a push and pull here between McDermott and Bean.
McDermott essentially hired Bean after McDermott's first draft, which was, by the way, probably his best draft.
I know it didn't have Josh Allen, but he really started.
the rebuild right in 2017.
So he hires Bean and then Bean eventually usurps him
and twist the knife bin out his way out.
And even in that statement, they imply essentially
the Brandon Bean will hire the whole coaching staff,
not just hire the head coach and the coach coach goes
and picks his own people.
So just shocking to me that this guy has managed to fail his way up in that regard.
I think if you look at the failings of the bills this season,
particularly in a one-off postseason game, one sample size,
you can pinpoint almost all those failings at the feet of the GM
rather than the head coach.
Now, we don't know exactly in those personnel meetings
who was lobbying for who,
who was set in the direction of the franchise.
But I think if you look at their Cardinal Sin as a team
going into the season,
it's the general construction of the roster,
it's the philosophy of the roster.
It's how they assembled an offense last season
that was ahead of its time.
They raced to a new direction on offense
that took the league by storm effectively,
kind of guided where the league went this season,
and then fundamentally misunderstood themselves defensively
and didn't build anything that was designed to counter those meta trends that they themselves had set.
That is so hard to do to get the theory of your team wrong.
And I step back and look at what they built defensively as a roster.
And it screams to me that they built themselves to beat one team in the postseason.
And that team didn't turn up for the party.
And to me, that is like the most fireball of all frail.
It is so arrogant.
And everything about Brandon being frankly has been arrogant throughout his tenure.
But that Ross construction is pure arrogance.
Yes, maybe the only team that was unhappy that Patrick Mahomes didn't make the playoffs.
It's hard not to think back, though, to Saturday.
It's a rough way for Sean McDermott to go out in many respects.
I gave him grief because I hated how hard he went in the paint, just only talking about that call,
calling the reporters afterwards, saying he's standing up for Buffalo,
but really inciting Buffalo and the anger over that call, which I guess you have to call.
just because enough people are upset about it.
But of all the calls, it seemed pretty, it seemed like a pretty clear call.
And I, it just bothers me.
I hate when these men in leadership positions who always talk about principles and taking
responsibility and owning up to when, when you struggle, when things really get hard.
And that's when we learn about you, just point the fingers.
The number one guy for me this year doing that was the Notre Dame athletic director.
I forget his name now.
All of Notre Dame really bothered me.
It's just like, hey, when you actually come up short, just blame everyone else.
But McDermott did a little bit of that.
But ultimately, he was also quietly blaming Brandon Bean in press conferences,
especially in the playoffs.
But when I pointed out that he's been doing that lately,
kind of talking about how you really missed Jacobi Myers,
you know, or you really appreciated how great Jacobi Myers had done
and the lack of cornerback depth they had.
Darius Slay, by the way, when I was going through the free agents for them this year.
It was just funny to see, oh, Darius Slay's a free agent for the bills this year.
That trade left them short at cornerback, and he was almost taking shots at Brandon Bean in public.
And that speaks to what must have been a clear fracture between Bean and McDermott.
At some point, you know, they were hand in hand.
I think McDermott was the more powerful one for most of, if not the entire tenure.
but at some point, I guess being got the favored status in terms of ownership and that they
were not really seen eye to eye.
It's tough to wonder though where that comes up in terms of roster construction because,
you know, the defense, in fairness, looks a lot like, you know, his defense from six years
ago.
A lot of his favorite players are still there.
It does.
I mean, they had a ton of injuries you bring in guys.
I mean, going down on your shield of Shaq Thompson and Trajavius White and actually being able
to hang in a one-score game where the only way you give up explosive plays is you're rolling
in the seventh and eighth cornerback and Sean Payton picks on them for deep rockets in the postseason.
That's a pretty tough way to go out.
I give McDermott a ton of credit.
I was not in any way McDermott fan through the early phase of the Josh Allen experience where
his defense was so static.
It was the same group he had in Carolina.
It was not keeping up with the modern times in the league.
And then he had this kind of epiphany.
I don't know if he went on some ayahuasca venture, whatever he did.
But he starts going for it on fourth down.
He kind of leads this disguised-based world that defense.
defenses in and other guys get all the credit, right? It's Vance Joseph, it's Mike McDonald.
He is going so far out on the extreme compared to other people. And the one thing I
admire about McDermott is he would throw people under the bus all the time. So I don't
think he can be too upset about this decision. But every time he just kind of got into a room
and said, this is a working defensively of my DC calling it. I'm taking it over. Their metrics
was skyrocketed to the moon like the stock market taking off the week after he stepped in.
and his ability to become midstream in the middle of his head coaching career,
a specific designer, a game plan coach who gives you a serious advantage with no personnel,
ill-fitting personnel to face the offense,
no guys who can just play one-on-one match-up football,
and to be able to grind through games without the right stuff,
I thought was really, really impressive.
So he became, to me, just kind of a neutral coach who made was rah-rah culture guy,
to being a really additive coach on the defensive side of the ball.
I had a great vision for where the league was going on offense before everyone else,
Everyone getting credit about big personnel and extra linemen.
They were there a year ago and were wrecking people.
And then they just mis-evaluated it themselves for how they were trying to stop it if anyone
tried to replicate it.
And I do kind of want to get to the big picture.
First of all, like where McDermott could go, where the bills could go in terms of their
coaches and in just the tenure in general, because I do think it's fascinating what it says
about the last decade in the NFL.
But I don't want to leave Saturday quite yet because the crazy thing is he did in this
game what you've been talking about him.
doing as a coach all year, which is adjusting in-game brilliantly. And for a while in that game,
he's sending pressure against the Broncos. It looks like they're going to be able to pull off
another comeback. It's not just the Broncos who've been pulling off these comeback. It's been the
bills all season long. And they're so close. If Josh Allen doesn't one-hop Khalil Shakir or,
you know, if he doesn't miss that throw to Dawson Knox for the potential game-winning touchdown,
Obviously, if Brandon Cook holds onto that ball,
and I do know when you looked at the All-22,
that Alan might have had a hand in his face on that throw to Knox,
so it wasn't the simplest throw.
There's a lot of what-ifs.
But the crazy thing is, and this is just the NFL,
and this is where you get to deserve,
and sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.
I think I would take them over the Patriots, maybe?
At the very least, it's just at worst, it's a 50-50 coin flip
on the road in the AFC championship.
And we could be talking about this as the best coaching job,
that McDermott did, and they're in the Super Bowl,
and it would have been a fascinating moment.
They would have been underdogs, I think, in the Super Bowl,
but it would all be different.
And that's just football.
And so that is just unfair.
But it is, I guess ironic is maybe the wrong word,
just that he goes out on one of his best jobs.
I mean, it's probably helpful for the coaching interviews
he's going to have coming up.
They did a great job rather than being viewed
as a Dunderhead down the line.
But it seems like he just lost like the Game of Thrones
or Duncan Egg, I guess now,
power struggle in the building.
And that typically happens because the GM gets to sit next to the owner in the suite and complain about the coach and ignore all the roster failings they've had.
Not going and getting one-on-one winners at receiver.
Every big ticket free agent item missing, right?
We're going to go and import pass rush, Von Miller, Dud, Joey Bosa.
It doesn't make a single play in the postseason until he hits Bow Nix 10 seconds after a play trying to show he's a tough guy.
And then coming out with all the stuff about just his theory of the team, Brandon Bean, was so off, arrogantly talking about the receiver position,
talking at the trade deadline that all these young whippersnappers, GMs, they just played fantasy football.
Well, those guys made some pretty impressive moves that made their teams better down the stretch of the season.
Meanwhile, McDermott's going out with all these older defensive pieces, just guys he trusts and can communicate.
And whenever they have to throw Brandon Beans, young fellas out into the lineup to get fried over the head.
So it's tough one for him.
I think it's a pretty brutal firing.
But I think if you take the totality, it makes sense.
I don't want to sound like I'm just defending McDermott completely.
I mean, there's a lifespan for these things.
It ran its course.
I think it's fine to say they need a fresh new voice,
but doing that while keeping the gym and place just makes no sense to me.
Yeah, that's the part that is tricky.
And I know you're firing right now on three hours sleep.
How much coffee are you just mainlining?
Because you're on like East Coast time and just staying up for these games and watching,
man, it must have been crazy to what.
Did anything stand out to you, by the way,
up from that Bill's Broncos game,
watching it.
Standing out re-watching it,
Bo Nix is absolute nails
throwing the ball down the field.
That's a good point.
What else there is to say it?
I love the Bo Nix. It took him until
Wamp Oseason game in front of a ginormous
audience to prove that he's not just some
kind of like can move around a little bit, dump the ball
out guy like he can really rip the ball down
the field. And Sean McDermott doesn't
have a job because Bo Nix can rip the ball
down the field. It's crazy.
He's the sixth winning
or of the six winningness
active head coaches. So I'm not including
including Belichick here.
Four were fired or quit during this cycle.
So that's Tomlin,
Sean Payton,
who's obviously still coaching.
John Harbaugh,
P. Carroll was fired,
and now McDermott.
McDermott finishes in Buffalo,
98 and 50.
Incredible record.
Top 20 all time in terms of winning percentage.
Only, quote unquote,
eight and eight in the playoffs.
It's a lot of win-one,
lose-one playoff runs.
I think they,
they peaked really in that 20 to 22 window.
You know, they make the, the AFC championship game
lose to a better Chiefs team in 20.
In 21 and 22,
even though they only won 11 games in 21,
they led the NFL in point differential
in both of those seasons.
And I've said it many times,
but I'll always believe
if they win the coin toss for that overtime against the Chiefs,
I think they're winning the Super Bowl that year,
even though that was the 11th.
when year they didn't make it to the conference team.
That was a divisional round game.
And then 22, they were excellent too.
And that was the DeMar Hamlin season.
And they ran out of gas and got beat pretty bad there.
And you've made this point plenty of times before, which I think is a great point,
that often the team that isn't close to being the best one is the side that breaks through.
And it really was that for them this year.
Brandon Cooks just hold onto that ball.
I do believe they go to the Super Bowl and then who knows,
in a 60 minute shot with Josh Allen at quarterback,
but they've had significantly better teams.
They've had better teams where he's been more at fault
and they decided not to move on.
Then they have a significantly worse team
where they're only in the party to begin with
because of Josh Allen and what he's done for them defensively
and they still decide to move on.
Ben, I've asked around.
I'm sure you have to a little bit.
Josh Allen has to be consulted in this, right?
They have to know his general feelings.
Do you think that's fair to surmise?
Yeah, I think that's very fit.
Yeah.
I mean, you don't know the specifics of how much this or that,
but I have seen some Bill's fans, you know,
wondering that, basically.
And I don't think this decision gets made without Josh Allen being involved,
which kind of takes us to who could be the next head coach.
Immediately people throwing out Brian Davel coming back
or elevating Joe.
Brady. It's hard to say if that's just people dot connecting. Do you have any gut feeling of where
they might go next? I think from personal experience, the person throwing out a Brian
Dayball reunion is Brian Daible. And I admire him tremendously. This is the best head coach opening,
possibly in five years that you get to walk in with an MVP in his prime. Roster is not great,
not in great shape, but you have a settled offensive line. They did lose their offensive line
coach who may be the very best in football who retired after the game on Sunday Aaron Cromer.
That is a huge loss for them.
As big a loss as losing the game, frankly, on Saturday, because he was such a forced multiplier
for them in keeping Josh Allen clean and individual play development.
So they've ripped that out of the building.
They lose the great defensive mind, but you still get to walk into an MVP caliber quarterback
in his prime.
So to me, it's the best job opening in a long, long time.
And who wouldn't want to put themselves up for the job?
But if you go through the list of guys that they could look at, it looks like it's going
to be offensive side of the ball.
make sense. They've kind of signaled that in their messaging. I don't think it's a job where you can
have someone learn on the job where you walk in following the guy where the point is you've got to have a
parade or it's a failure and you're going to bring in what, a 34 year old, a 30 year old who's never
done the job before who's been in the league three or four seasons like Nate Shield us or Grant Udinski.
So you're going to have to go with a retread type candidate or promoting Joe Brady. The failing this
season was not on the coaching staff. So maybe you just think you broke Joe Brady and you can fix
things on the margins and you bring in a similar caliber guy defensively, you can get over the hump.
Brian Daibald to me would be an absolute no-go, retread hire for them.
But if it's just what Josh Allen wanted to make him comfortable, that probably does have
to come into the conversation.
And I think it's a situation where the GM, in this case, Brandon Bean, is going to be wanting
to hire the opposite of McDermott in that he's going to want to have a guy who he can control.
Like Brandon Bean is in charge now, so who's going to go along with the program?
Now that could be guys he knows.
Davis Webb was in that building once too.
Was he a quarterback under Brian Dabor or was he a coach under Brian Dable?
I can't even remember.
He was a quarterback and he had that great famous profile where he self-proclaimed himself
Josh Allen's best friend without consulting Josh Allen and who in fact is his best friend is.
That's another one where I could see that happening.
I could see him coming in as the offensive coordinator, assistant head coach to be alongside
Josh Allen, depending if you bring him more of a CEO type guy as just the head coach or you do end up
with a defensive guy, because you know you're getting Davis Webb in there.
But you cannot put the best friend of the quarterback in the position of being the guy
who must win a Super Bowl as we open a new building of whilst it's a catastrophic failure.
That is unfair to do to that coach to me.
That's a great call about the new building.
I didn't even think about that.
And the Bill's ownership situation makes me push back.
I think the Ravens would be, is a better job.
I don't know why.
I just trust the building more.
You do have Lamar there as well.
you could make, you know, the case for Josh Allen moving forward over Lamar or whatever,
but I trust that I just feel a little more comfortable.
If I was a head coach going into this, that the Ravens is maybe a better job,
which also makes me think about, I wonder if John Harbaugh and Kevin Safansky are looking at this
and wondering, huh, that's interesting.
I think New York state law has like a 14-day cool-down period on contracts.
I wonder if John Harbaugh's calling the lawyers and seeing what it is.
I wonder if, you know, Kevin O'Connell, Shane Steichen wishes he was fired in this,
He's looking around going, why didn't you just fire me?
I could have been Lamar's coach.
I could have been Josh Allen's coach.
I wonder if Kevin O'Connell calls the agent and says, you know what, first round pick?
You get me away from JJ, you get me to Josh Allen.
If you just go through the number of proven offensive commodities, which is what everyone
wants is some kind of schemes of on the offensive side of the ball and people, particularly
on the certain side of the internet, just do away with all the head coach responsibilities.
Just scheme up football for Josh Allen and will take us to the promised land.
It's a pretty thin bucket of guys you can look at.
I can't imagine they'd be in the Mike McDaniel business
just because of the seeing it up close and personal in the division.
That would be a massive swing from Sean McDermott to Mike McDaniel.
You couldn't get more opposite personalities.
And so as you go through it, it's a pretty thin list of candidates
who actually would fit the model of maybe the best job opening in five, six years,
which is where I would certainly start my proceedings by calling Shane Steichen,
calling Kevin O'Connor and asking them if they just have any interest
if we flow at first round pick out there.
I mean, is that ink dry on the mat,
Fler contract, I doubt it. That's just, that's just agreed to at this point. Why do you think
it's better than the Ravens job? Something about the ownership situation has me just the, I mean,
it's, it, but the, the schools have been, have been good for, for Buffalo and everything. They're
getting the stadium built, but it just feels also that Brandon Bean is there. And Brandon Bean
feels like he actually will have juice. And so you're risking a little bit of the Rahim
Morris situation that he just had in Atlanta.
where the GM is on a shorter clock than the head coach,
because the GM is out if this doesn't happen in the next two years,
I would think, and then everyone is just out.
Yeah, the bet I would make would purely be Josh Allen.
Rehom did not walk into Josh Allen.
He walked into Pennix and cousins.
And I thought Ben Johnson did something similar,
which was staple myself to the quarterback
without absolutely loving the situation with the front office and ownership.
And as I win games, I accrue power,
and I can start whacking through the building who I don't like.
And if you get to a championship game,
you get to a soup ball, you can clean house as the head coach because you'll be the biggest guy in the
city and you'll have all the power that you want. And Josh Allen is the cleanest path to do that.
It's just more Lamar's health than Josh Allen's health, though both may be risky moving forward.
Or I'd bet on that, but I will say Steve Bishottie's press conference after the, like, John Harbour
go, is maybe the most electric thing I've ever seen an owner do in public. I adore it every minute.
I'm going to say it as like a wake-up motivation clock in the mornings.
And him saying, and you mentioned it before with whether Josh Allen would have input.
into the decision.
When Bishotti said,
which is how all owners I think believe,
but don't say it publicly,
which is everyone gets an input,
but I have the power.
Unbelievable billionaire insecurity
to let people know slamming the table,
I'm the man with the power.
I imagine that's how it goes down here.
And I don't love being tied to Brandon Beam,
but I think you just have to close your eyes
and say, well,
Brandon might be frustrating and annoying
and build a poor roster,
but I do get Josh Allen on third and goal to win a game.
And not to get too deep into it,
but there's just some concern,
And Kim Pagula was helping very actively to run the team.
And then she's had health and medical problems the last three, four years that is
taken her out from doing that.
I actually was watching some Australian open coverage, big tennis guy after the Senate.
And Jesse Pagula, their daughter, who's a top 10 player in the world, wrote on the camera
after she won, that was a catch with a frowny face.
And she's 31 years old.
And there's a hole, if you want to get deep into it, succession style.
battle going on there. And I agree with the Bill's fans that I saw in social media that's hoping Jesse
Pagula wraps up this tennis career in the next five or six years. And she's the one that takes over
because she's sharp. I know I'm just viewing from afar, but I really like Jesse Pagula. All right,
last thing is I do want to just give some love. When they took over, and it was McDermott with the
power, like, it was a rough situation. They had not made the playoffs in, what, 16 seasons.
They end that streak in McDermott's first season. If you were teaching,
how to rebuild a franchise, you could do worse than what he did with the Buffalo Bills.
First draft, first pick, Tradavius White. Now, granted, they traded down in a draft they could
have taken Patrick Mahomes that was brought up to me when I mentioned this. But Tradavius White,
Zay Jones, you know, okay, Dionne Dawkins, Matt Milano in that first draft. That's huge.
They bring in Mike up Hyde and Jordan Poyer as cheap free agent in the first offseason.
Right there, and that's none of that's Brandon Bean, by the way. That's all McDermin.
I mean, that was as big a home run as you could ever have.
The next couple drafts have Josh Allen, Harrison Phillips, Tehran Johnson,
Tremaine Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox.
They've had actually some really good drafts that popped up here and there after that,
like 22 with the Benford draft was very good.
But it's gone fallow the last three years and the free agency stuff has been even worse.
So it's really, if you're judging off just the last three years,
it has not been great.
And this gets me to my final question here,
which is, what do you think of the theory of that,
like coaches, GMs,
they do their best stuff off the bat.
Like, they do their best, most inspired stuff
in the first five or six years.
And it's a little unfair,
but it just seems like it's true.
That's when they come in with all the ideas
and the connections and this and that,
and they do it immediately.
I think McDermott could do it again somewhere else,
but it's almost like you need to take advantage
of that first five, six year window.
or else it starts getting a little calcified and stale.
I agree with that.
And I think the idea of the five-year time with the quarterback and coach,
if they don't win one there, it's just not going to happen.
You may as well not keep running it back.
I think that is true and fair.
I think McDermott is a bit distinctive in that he had a complete metamorphosis
in the tail end of this run in a way that I just never fathomed he be able to put together.
I don't know where he got that new influx of energy and ideas
to completely reshape his model defensively and on offense too, frankly.
So he's a little bit different in that regard.
draft certainly went stale.
But yeah, if you don't get over the hump
after five years,
it's probably best to just part ways.
And it's unfair,
and I just keep seeing a lot.
It's like,
oh, what is the NFL coming to being,
you know,
so short-sighted?
And I'm thinking, like,
I mean, look at the Premier League.
Those guys are lucky to get,
like, 18 months if they're doing well.
Like, look at the NBA.
Like, they change their coaches like,
like anything, like uniforms.
It's, it happens.
And I guess it's not fair,
but it was,
time. If you were picking a spot, I wouldn't mind seeing McDermott sit out the cycle because I kind of
don't want him to go to Arizona necessarily or Tennessee or a place where he's going to be
fighting uphill. I think he is a good candidate for a second job. Do you agree on that one?
I think he's a solid candidate and it'd have to be the right situation. The one that I look at where I think
you could have a real immediate impact would be Vegas where he could kind of reestablish what a
disaster it's being and get everyone on the same page and build a solid infrastructure.
structure and then you just hand it off the one, the hot shot young offensive minds in three years
and you at least build a stable enough foundation. Now, they tried that with Pete. That was the same
game plan and it was a complete disaster. But I think McDermott sells his pulse on the game
enough where he built to bring in cool, fresh ideas, assemble a great staff. The problem he's got
right now is it being so late in the cycle, everyone already, or not everyone, but multiple teams
in the final spans of interviews. I'm not sure if they're going to say no to some of the finalists
to sit down and interview Sean McDermott, whether his stock is that high around the league to be able to do it.
going to be left up to Arizona where he can have the similar kind of influence he would have
in Vegas. That just feels like a milk toast, six, seven, win, couple of seasons, and everyone
shakes hands and moves on after it, whereas at least in Vegas he would have the upside of
maybe Fernando Mendoza special. Maybe he could build something for the medium term.
It's easy for me to say, but he's getting paid a lot of money to not coach the bills.
This year, he's only going to be 52 years old when the next head coaching cycle starts.
I think that's plenty of time for a good kind of 2.0 version,
and you might benefit from being away from the game.
And I think you would be a solid hire in the right situation because of what you said.
Like, he still had his hand on the pulse of how to coach up defense.
Ali, appreciate you.
This was a last second bat signal call over to Manchester.
So thank you for jumping in on very little sleep and a lot of coffee.
Chris Bobona, by the way.
to our producer.
He was apparently in bed when I texted him if he could come in.
That he's coming in on what would have been an off day.
Shout out to him too.
You will hear from myself next in the feed with our next 40s and pre-agents episode with
Daniel Jeremiah looking at off-season in the AFC, at least until another coach gets
fine.
This is an I-Heart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
