NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - B.R.I.D.G.E.T. 2.0 Prediction Probability Machine
Episode Date: January 24, 2023A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe react to all the latest news from around the league, starting with the latest on Patrick Mahomes (8:51). Bi...ll O'Brien is the new Patriots offensive coordinator (12:48), Tom Brady doesn't know what his future holds (17:01), and Joe Schoen shared thoughts on Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley (21:32). Then, we fire up the new and improved version of B.R.I.D.G.E.T. (version 2.0) to calculate the likelihood of the heroes' offseason predictions (28:07). Has Tony Romo lost some of his appeal (32:18)? Where will Aaron Rodgers play next season (36:04)? Could Saquon Barkley stay in New York playing for a different team (42:17)? And what about Tom Brady to the Dolphins (47:25)? Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
This is an I-Heart podcast.
The Around the NFL podcast.
Once Greg to give the best man speech at their wedding.
From the Chris Wesleying podcast studio, it's Around the NFL.
I'm Dan Hansis.
I got Mark Sessler.
I got Colleen Wolf.
It's a Tuesday show after all.
And Mr. Best Man speech himself, Greg Rosenthal.
Oh, no.
Good on this road again.
I feel weird energy right now.
I did give some best man speeches.
Two.
Right.
Is this a call back to one went well, one didn't?
When you talked down to Justin for wanting to go more than a couple minutes.
Yeah, certainly.
Yeah.
What did you decide it should be two minutes or something?
Five.
Two minutes.
Five.
Under five.
A tight five is good.
Can't be ten.
But then if you do three minutes, then it's like why are you even here?
Right.
Depends how good it is.
You even know this person?
Yeah, what does best friendship mean?
Like, you come up and you've got two and a half minutes of content?
Says a lot.
It certainly does.
What if the maid of honor goes up and absolutely no?
I love, I love, I've done this four or five times my life.
Been there.
But when the maid of honor just absolutely nosedives ahead of you, you can do no wrong.
And you're like, you come and save the day.
I've never seen a maid of honor kill.
That actually happened to.
What do you mean?
Really?
Not yet.
Kill, I agree with you.
Yeah, kill the room.
Absolutely not.
They're big, get a little.
Oh, you guys got to come to one of my weddings.
I've been a maid of honor quite a few times.
You slayed?
Yes.
Of course I did.
I think you'd be great.
I've seen one do an incredible job because she went out of bounds with some of her commentary.
That's good.
Yeah.
And that's what you can't, you've got to be not safe.
And I think that's, yes, that's so important.
Risk taking.
Do we have this conversation?
Probably four times.
This month.
I don't know if you're new to the show, but we just rehab the exact same conversations
like a few times a year and then it's a new season and we redo it again.
The maid of honors out there, don't let the best man show you up by being edgy and working
a little blue.
You can do it too.
By the way, don't come killing us on Twitter about anti-made-of-honor commentary.
I've seen a good one and I think it's possible and I totally trust that, Colleen.
I am living proof.
I would never disagree with that.
I hope I live to see it.
Roll the dice.
Take a chance.
You're asking for it.
We're starting an age out of like wedding seasons, though.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
Well, we have the moment coming up that I'm in.
Not me.
Right.
Well, you're younger.
You're cooler.
All right, kid.
Here we go.
I'll take it.
You are excited because the Eagles are one step away from another Super Bowl.
Yes.
And you will be in Philadelphia this weekend.
I'm going to Philly.
I'm going back home.
It's very exciting.
I cannot wait.
Connie, you are really traveling the NFL world lately.
I'm doing the circuit.
Yeah.
It's very good.
It's great.
It's great.
It just got back from Buffalo late last night.
And that was so much fun.
What was it like?
The game not as much fun, I guess, because obviously there were more Bill's fans
there than Bengals fans, but the tail game totally was
terrible. That's why it wasn't. A bit of a buzz killer. A little bit. What was it like
after the game at the stadium? I heard a lot of Cincinnati fans there too. There were
a ton of Cincinnati fans there. So that was, that was good, but it
was somber. It was a little depressing. But then aren't you looking for a place to go out on the
town in Buffalo after the game? I was trying to find a place in Buffalo to watch the Eagles
game on Saturday night. But instead I just watched it at the hotel bar. They'd be in a better
mood on Saturday night. Yes.
All right.
So, yes.
And then there were four.
Four teams left.
Championship Sunday coming up this weekend.
We will have our preview of Championship Sunday on Thursday.
So make sure you check that out.
And of course, the flagship program Sunday night will recap and talk about who's playing in Super Bowl 57 in Glendale, Arizona.
We will be there.
That's when we get on a plane, Connie.
And we will be at the Super Bowl.
So we're kind of nearing the finish.
here, Greggy, in a lot of ways.
Well, we had six weeks of the preseason, you know,
of working in the preseason since camp started.
We had 18 regular season weeks.
We've now had two playoff weeks.
So that's 26 weeks total.
Oh, no, don't do this.
I hate when this happens because it's true.
I'm going to say it.
We're now past halfway through the season.
It feels that way, finally.
About, you know, halfway point on this past weekend.
It felt like we reached that.
Basically, like, wild card round or the end of the regular season
is the equivalent of a hump day.
So, yeah, we're coming in for a landing.
long landing.
All right.
Coming up today,
tech,
tech is the future.
Tech will always be the future.
And that's,
and science is the path forward for human,
humans and,
and it could be the end.
Let's face it,
it can go in a lot of different directions.
And with that said,
coming up is a wonderful piece of hardware.
That,
and software.
It's a,
it's dual, right?
Yep, the software is run inside the hardware.
Right.
beautiful mix of the two
It's a beautiful mix
Synergy
Bridget returns
today on around the NFL
Long awaited
It's been a while
It's been a minute since we've seen Bridget
So Lamar Jackson like contract situation
But we've settled it
See I thought Bridget Condon was coming on the show
Today right this is not a joke by the way
I said we're going to do Bridget today
And Connie thought our colleague
Ms. Condon was joining us
Yeah until two minutes ago
So you have a whole line of questions
questioning for Bridget and yeah she's at the collegiate bowl right now so that was a good waste of time throw out those notes and to open like the kimono one step further like there was um we you know we were like we did Bridget before like on the show we've had Bridget on the computer like what on what was the segment we're like we never even know what the segment is it's like I went back to look for Bridget to understand how we interact whether which was largely not in my favor I realized but like we'll get to that that's one of the reasons Bridget had to go into the shop because Brick Condon had been on
You could not find Bridget, the hardware software machine anywhere in the search.
Yeah.
So it's a problem.
We've now had a human ritual.
And Bridget is an acronym.
We're going to get to all of it.
But before we do that, let's hit the news.
Rock.
Right.
So big.
Thank you.
What?
What was that?
That is a, oh, you don't know?
That is the wonderful.
Who is it?
It sounds like you don't know.
In 80 for Brady coming out early next month.
One of the more head scratching films ever to be produced by a major studio and released.
Who is this film for?
That is my question to you.
I think Brady is part of the production team.
I think it's for my mom.
Is it?
Yeah.
She's all about it.
Really?
I mean, I haven't talked at length with her.
So moms of a certain age from New England.
She's a fan of these actresses, certainly.
She's a Patriots fan.
I think it's made for my mom.
That is a fairly narrow audience, though, like your mom.
Right.
Well, she has other friends that, I think, fill that demographic.
What did you sell in this film?
My mom and her friends.
So Boston or Massachusetts area, moms of a certain age.
That's a very small small.
Yeah.
Quite a demographic.
Like, I would like to know the budget of the film.
And then when they did their extended research,
are we going to cover
Sally Field's salary
with the box office
of Wilberham, Massachusetts?
I think we should have
a watch party for it.
Do you?
Well, Braham.
Excuse me.
Offsite.
I will not be watching 80 for Brady.
I have to tell you.
Well, I'm going to come over
and we're all going to hang out.
It's going to be a nice team building event.
It's also based around a Super Bowl
that occurred five or six years ago.
I was wondering about that.
It's like, why did it take so long
to bring this to fruition?
It is based on, apparently, on a true story.
And so it went through the machinations of the story
getting out there at some point.
Because I was like, why did this not come out
four, five, six, seven, eight, nine years ago?
No, it's from never.
It's Glendale Super Bowl.
We understand that.
But what's the point of?
Which is now nine years ago, right?
No, I think it was the Falcons.
No, it was the Falcons Patriots one.
Oops, I blew that one.
And just a heads up, Paramount Pictures.
There is an issue with football movies
and Hollywood making good ones.
to us ask questions we can give you a road map i mean that's fair but when you can get too
dynamic on screen personalities like brady and gronk in the same movie can you play that again jackpot
the way gronk says this is just it gets me wrong so big thank you oh man all right let's get to it
80 for brady i guess i'll give it a plug coming out february third everywhere spoke about it for like
nine minutes.
All right, let's start with the biggest story, the biggest health story, I should say,
in the NFL ahead of championship weekend.
Patrick Mahomes, what is going on with that ankle?
He suffered the high ankle sprain on Saturday against the Jaguars.
Andy Reid said in his press conference on Monday that the sprain isn't that bad.
And it's not as bad as the one he suffered a few years back and played through.
so again Connie
everything's pointing to
yes Mahomes is playing
but the big question
are going against the mighty Bengals
who are playing at a very sky high level
will this version of
Mahomes be good enough
against a great opponent
Well every time Joe Burrow
and these Bengals have played
the Chiefs Patrick Mahomes
has been 100%
and they've lost every single time
so that is a little
concerning going into this game
and obviously he can
Patrick Mahomes can be
a pocket quarterback just as well as he can add live different plays. But that's his strength.
And Mahomes, he's never been in a position where he's missed an entire week of practice and then
played a game in the NFL. So all of this is new territory against a team that is absolutely
locked in and loaded on both sides of the ball. And it seems like there's nothing that's going to
stop them anytime soon. And we saw his mobility how limited it was after that hit. I mean,
he didn't throw any passes outside of the pocket.
And that is an area that he led the NFL in this season.
So it's problematic.
He led the NFL, though, in touchdowns inside the pocket, too.
So it's like he, his numbers went up in that game, which is crazy.
Like his yards per attempt, like his second half numbers were actually better per throw.
Not that you want.
I don't lie, though.
He was definitely lesser.
I kind of forgot that ankle sprain he had in 2019.
It was his left ankle.
So that's a little different.
you know, it's not your plant ankle,
but he did follow up that ankle sprain,
which Reed is saying,
and he has some self-interest in saying that it's not worse,
he did follow that up with seven touchdowns
and like 800 yards in his next two games.
Do you think that this is maybe,
and, you know, there is some talk out there
that sometimes the top broadcast booths in the league
just get a little bit relentless
in their praise of these big quarterbacks
and it almost gets in the way of the telecast at times.
is this all just a long con mark
for Mahomes to play out of his mind on Sunday
and it to be turned into its own movie
in a few years?
Yeah, I mean, if I were to pick anyone
where that would happen,
the whole dynamic with the announcing team
that you mentioned and all that business,
yes, I mean, just because I also...
This is on Mark's radar.
No, it's not, though, because I think, like,
Mahomes, yeah, he played really well
against Jacksonville after the injury
and they're very adaptable.
I think I trust the Chiefs
and Andy Reid and Mahomes
to be more adaptable with, like,
the pocket stuff.
You can also, you know, you can roll them out
to a side,
where like the line is moving with them
if you want to do some of that stuff.
It does take elements of their offense away.
But who do you trust more to like
with their 7,000 play page book
like playbook that they put together over the years
to come up with a counter and to make it work?
And so yes, I could see,
I don't know if it's going to be a movie.
I mean, we're getting the movie this Sunday, but like...
And it is, it does speak to the great unknowableness
of sports that, you know,
how many more pounds or ounces of pressure
needed to be put on that leg before it broke
like Tony Pollard's did, and they survived.
He was able to get out of there without it being a broken lower leg,
and now he has a chance to win another Super Bowl.
That's good, because that would have been a supreme bummer if the chief survived,
but we got Henny.
Oh, you don't need that.
Dan,
are you saying that Mahomes has superior bones?
I think his bones are rock solid.
Because usually a high ankle sprain, you usually are out.
I mean, I don't think there's a, there's a non-zero chance that we get some Chad
on Sunday, probably not for the first snap, but you just don't know.
Yeah, that's, that's for sure.
Uh, let's check in with the Patriots, Gregi, who have made their hire, um, at
offensive coordinator and it's a familiar name, Bill O'Brien, old Billy boy.
Uh, his offense, he was the offensive coordinator in New England from 2009 to
2011.
Uh, and now he returns, um, from the college game, uh, to try to fix an offense that, let's
face it, pretty much.
with Matt Patricia leading the way.
I love it.
I'm surprised I love anything involving Bill O'Brien,
but when you're replacing Matt Patricia as offensive coordinator,
and you think back to that 09 to 11 teams,
I think I would argue those are some of the most influential offenses
of the last 20 years.
They kind of changed the game in terms of hurry up and they're two tight ends.
And Bill O'Brien was the guy behind it.
And yes, he's been an annoying figure,
like running the Texans and kind of taking power
and he clearly plays the media well.
I think he has some fans at the highest levels
of the Patriots organization.
Like all that could be annoying at times,
but like his offenses were always quite good.
Like Deshaun Watson played his best football
with Bill O'Brien and all the Case Keenum
and all the people that like he ended up coaching up.
Like I'm excited.
Well, I think Tom Brady loved him.
They were feeling themselves so much during that era
where like remember the week they went and just had chip
Kelly, before Chip Kelly became someone that we all knew about with Philly, et cetera, just come
into the Patriots building and kind of teach him his high-speed offense.
And then they went and ran it against the Peyton Manning Broncos and did something no other
NFL team had done.
No, I don't think that was the Bill O'Brien year at O.C., because that was only one year
2011, and they came in second or third in points scored.
They were a high-powered offense.
He's not O'Brien, the GM.
I don't need that business.
And you're not going to get that.
I mean, to me, it's great for Mack Jones,
who also helped teach Bill O'Brien what Alabama was doing when he went to Alabama.
So the relationship's already there.
I think that's, you need it.
I'm a little surprised by how glowing we are right now.
Here's the key.
He's replacing Joe Judge and Patricia.
So, yes.
If they had hired Michael Fleur, I would have been as excited or more.
Just like anyone that's.
Anybody is solid.
It's just nice to have an offensive coordinator back in New England.
That seems like the right move.
Yeah.
They completely set up Mac Jones to fail last year with.
what they had in place in addition to the
offensive line and then no real
pass catchers. So now that
he's with Bill O'Brien, we have to see
that growth this year. I mean, it's a very, it's
an extremely safe move.
It's going back to what you're
comfortable with, what you knew.
And there is a big difference between
the offense that O'Brien
was running with New England then and now
and it's Tom Brady, who is in the middle
of what peak 2.0 at that time.
So now he has to do it with a lesser
quarterback in Mac Jones. And, you know,
I think it's a good hire.
But you know what?
With Mack Jones even last year,
like we'll see.
When Zappi was in there,
they did a ton of play action.
And then if you look at the numbers
when Jones was in there,
it was like they went away from it
and almost didn't even do what Jones did well.
Right.
And they're talking about incorporating Alabama's offense
along with what just making it something that
Mac Jones said he couldn't be more thrilled about it.
So it's like you change the energy around your quarterback.
That is the big first step of this.
They could have hired the guy that was like shoveling the stairs
at Gillette Stadium as OC and then probably like,
This is probably worth a shot as an upgrade.
That would have been an upgrade.
If they just had the rookie year,
Mac Jones offense in last year's Patriots defense,
I don't think that team would have won a playoff game,
but they would have been like the six seed.
They would have been a much better team than this.
It's like more interesting in general.
Does Patricia and Judge stay on staff?
Probably right.
Does they just,
does everyone just have a forever safe home if you're under Bill?
Probably, right?
Yeah.
Probably.
I don't know.
He's definitely like, like my son,
like he doesn't meet anyone new.
He's just like,
He has his old friends, and he's not going to make...
Your friends are your friends. He's not making any new friends at this point.
Sure.
Speaking of Tom Brady...
Did you just compare yourself to Bill Belichick?
All I mean is like...
He does it all the time, Mike.
I have the friends I have.
I've struggled to make any new ones.
I wonder why that would be, you know?
It's just like all of my friends from childhood and college.
Me and all my friends are jerks.
Tom Brady has a podcast.
I think we've all been...
We've talked about that it's on the show.
Sometimes we're a little bit surprised.
It's like, oh, Tom Brady's podcast.
Shouldn't that be the biggest podcast in the world?
It's one of my favorite things about podcasts,
that our podcast is a much bigger podcast
than all these big names out there.
Tom Brady, I'm sure if you asked him about us,
he'd say, oh, they're the goat.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Anyway, on the latest edition of the,
Let's Go!
Podcast with Tom Brady, Jim Gray and Larry Fitzgerald.
Oh, Fitzgerald.
Oh, Fitz is on that show now.
Jim Gray, did you send that?
Does Jim Gray have a star on the Hollywood Wall?
of fame. I did send that. I was walking down the walk of fame the other, like a week
so ago and stopped in my tracks to realize that. Frikan nuts. No way. Because you can either
have like the camera or the television because you're a television dude. Or you get the little
old school radio mic. And he's got a not surprisingly a radio mic. But it was like it's,
it did surprise me that he's there. I think that is typically. I thought he had the TV with the
antennas. No, I think it was radio. But he's like he's more of a broadcasting type icon, I guess.
But, like, in general, does that just come through an agent?
I just really love, like, Hollywood Sessler.
That is just dialing into, like, old school Hollywood.
You're doing the walk.
It's on my, it's on my walk.
People do like to demean that, that they use it sort of as a PR thing.
You have to pay about $40,000, $50,000 for the star yourself.
Now, it could be yourself paying for it, or it could be, like, your agency or someone,
else paying for you.
But a lot of times it's just stars, you know,
paying for their own publicity.
But you still normally have to be a star.
And I'm not done injustice.
The payoff didn't go as he thought because it's actually a
television set. It wasn't the old. Yeah.
I don't know who's getting the radio anymore.
The gray, that's, it's stunning to me.
But good for him. I'm sure that was a nice
moment for his family and fans.
Let's listen to Tom Brady when
asked by Gray.
Are you playing Tommy?
Jim, if I knew what I was going to fucking do,
I'd have already fucking done it.
Yes.
Taking a day at a time.
Let's go.
I mean, that's an edge podcast.
Maybe listen to the rest of it.
Maybe he was like, I need to start making some inroads on this thing.
Yeah.
Let's just ramp up a little, let's work a little blue.
Like the bridesmaids.
Don't be afraid.
Right.
Maids of honor.
Make people uncomfortable.
Mades of honor, excuse me.
We're matrons.
I hate that.
I honestly hate it.
sleep on the matron of honor dropping bombs in a big spot if that that would be a great best friend
to have if that were your best friend it might work because i feel like i need more context to that
i was like did it build up to that usually it seems like he has a very pre-scripted joke
to like the hard question of the week that was probably i will tell you what gray i can tell you
briefly what gray said after he's like well you know i'm just asking the question everyone
wanted me to ask sorry you know so i'm sorry you have a star on the walk of fame i don't think so
speak to me with some respect not yet i don't
I think that was scripted at all.
I think that that was him, like, actually being real
and being, like, annoyed 1,000% by the answer or the question.
He's like, why did I sign up for this?
No.
Half time of Monday, like, radio hit that they turn into a podcast.
It's not even a podcast, really.
Oh, Gregie.
It's just a couple of radio interviews spliced together.
Do you have a star in the Walk of Fame?
I mean, let's put a GoFundMe together.
Maybe we can get the around the NFL podcast.
star we need like 10 more
years. I will ride your coattails on that one.
Yeah, but you just want to be, I want to have
some say on where they stick it on that street
because, you know, there are some places that
aren't so wonderful. You don't want to just be
slapped down into a part of town that's not great.
All right. Put us in a good part of town. Maybe there's
a discount, though. Well,
that might be, would be cheaper. I think we need to wait.
Yeah, we're not quite there yet.
I think that'd be part of the fun if we weren't there
at all, you know? But you know
how they build stadiums in a depressed
part of town? Like, oh, we're going to build
up the whole area.
Right.
Maybe that could be...
Like the part of town we're in.
Right now.
Maybe like they put the star in a depressed area of Hollywood and that just creates a whole
level of commerce for people racing to see that.
That's very, very forward thinking.
All right.
And other news.
I think Tom Brady's going to come up a little bit later.
That's a tease.
How about that mark for a little tease for you?
That's good tease.
That's why you're the host.
Joe Shane.
He is the general manager of the New York Giants.
Big decisions.
after the loss of the Eagles over the weekend starts with their two most important players on offense.
Daniel Jones, Saquan Barkley, it does sound like the quarterback is coming back.
Here's what Shane had to say.
We'd like Daniel to be here.
Again, he said it yesterday.
There's a business side to it, but we feel like Daniel played well this season.
He's done everything that we asked him to do.
And, you know, again, there's a business side to it.
We haven't went down that road yet.
You know, we still got to have our meetings with our staff late in the week.
and we'll devise an off-season plan.
But we haven't had those meetings yet,
but we would like to have Daniel Jones back.
Hopefully we can get something done with his representatives,
and that would be the goal to build a team around him
where he could, you know, lead us to win a Super Bowl.
Confident answer.
Hey, if you don't think your quarterback that you have
can, quote, unquote, lead your team to the Super Bowl,
he's not your quarterback.
So it's not surprising that he would say that.
He also said, Shane, that they are not close as of right now.
now in terms of Saquan Barclay in the contract numbers,
but also we've heard that Saquan doesn't necessarily need to reset the market at running back.
And that could be posturing.
Greg, where is Saquan Barclay and the Free Agency 101?
He was in the top 20.
You know, he gets dinged a little bit for being a running back.
Him and Josh Jacobs.
I think he was around top 15.
But I think it was interesting.
They sounded much more optimistic about and certain about Daniel Jones,
which makes you think if they have a franchise tag,
available for one or the other they would probably do it with Jones and finally in the news unfortunately
from the blotter file the san francisco 49ers their defense event charles amenahue was arrested
on a charge of misdemeanor domestic violence following a alleged incident with his girlfriend on
monday that according to the san jose california police department um menahue posted bail and is no
longer in custody also was served with an emergency protective restraining order um the nine
in a statement said they were aware of the matter
and they are in the process of gathering
further information.
Many who's 25,
former fifth round pitch,
pick Greg and obviously made a big
play in the first round of the playoffs
and is a part of their rotation.
So obviously, the incident is no good.
The timing is no good.
Yeah, he's played 50 snaps over the last two weeks.
I'll be curious how they handle it.
I can't imagine he's going to be playing in this game.
All right.
Let's take a break, and then we will look into the future.
Tech.
It's very important.
All right, we are back, and it is time.
What's up, Grave Decker?
I see you giving it a stinker.
Well, during the break, I was just looking into how one would obtain a Hollywood Walk a Fame star.
Yeah, you were.
And I wanted you guys to have what you deserve.
According to Wikipedia, anyone, including fans,
can nominate anyone active in the field of entertainment
as long as the nominee or their management
approves the nomination, so we would obviously approve it.
Nominees must have a minimum of five years experience
in the category, check.
Double that.
And a history of, quote, charitable contributions.
Oh, we got that too.
Although we do still, oh, Jacksonville, please add us.
Also, our show is for free, and we've been giving the people
for over a decade.
I don't know if that's.
Maybe we'll do the Jacksonville orphanage or whatever.
Just giving our brilliance for free and some ad breaks.
The food bank, the orphanage, whatever we need to do for Jacksonville.
We were going to do that anyway.
But it actually kind of links up well with this situation.
We would get a radio icon, I think.
Right.
And do we get, if we make the charitable donation, do we get some type of receipt that we can present to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce?
Seems fair.
I mean, has any podcast been put on the Hall of Fame?
It's a race between us and old Rogan.
Old Rogan.
That's what they call them.
What were any other qualifications necessary?
That's all it says on Wikipedia.
So I will nominate you guys.
I think there is.
I mean, I heard.
What does it nominate mean?
Does that mean?
Because then it's probably they're just like, they'll get back to like, yeah, CTC, 55 Gs, bro.
No, I do think it costs like $15,000 to get a star or something like that.
So where does that money go?
I looked this up recently.
I don't know why.
I thought it was like 40 or something crazy.
Maybe it is 40.
A lot of times agents will pay this for their talent to get on.
We have agents.
Wait, this is all.
There is a path here.
There is.
Have we been doing it five years?
Give me some dings.
Have we been doing this five years?
Have we made charitable donations?
Would management clear this?
Justin counts.
And finally, do we have agents?
Wow.
We have good agents.
You'd think the NFL would want to pay for this
to get the podcast out there more.
It's great for them.
I know having agents and having agents
that are willing to pay $40,000.
That will be an interesting conversation,
but it's worth having.
You could argue that if you want to look at
what we made the NFL over the course of a decade plus,
that this little fee would be dust in the wind.
Follow the money.
I need to know where it's going for all these stars.
Who gets, what bank account has that?
That's a good point.
Like the commission of Hollywood.
It's probably a city a city slush fund or something.
Right. It's essentially been a racket for like some people who started this and their family members.
You're actually asking the question that no one ever did.
They planted three trees in Los Angeles in the past 55 years and the rest has gone directly into some evil.
A mansion in Beverly Hills.
Some evil person's Malibu.
According to the internet, the fee goes to the installation.
of the star and general upkeep maintenance
for the Hollywood Walk of Fame,
which if anyone has ever walked down,
you know it's in pristine condition.
Okay. To say the least.
Perfectly clean.
I call bullshit on that.
Yeah, they got to work on that.
Well, they got a lot of things to work on in Hollywood.
Connie working blue.
All right.
Let's get to it.
She's on the case.
Let me fire it up.
I got our old friend.
She's coming back around.
And I'll tell you what, if she,
if she did a maid of honor speech,
Woo, doggie.
That would be weird.
Find her a best friend first.
Let's fire up Bridget.
Greetings.
I am a bionic-gorithm, I am a bionic reactive intelligence data gathering enunciation transponder,
also known as Bridget, version 2.0.
Hello, Bridget. How are you?
Does she answer?
How about that traffic on the local freeway this morning?
Mama Mia.
Well, okay, so there's a lot to break down here.
And that was very good.
I've been, she's been offline for a while.
And one of the things I wanted to do was make Bridget more personable.
I wanted her to have more of a personality.
I certainly, the number one issue with Bridget, obviously,
was how angry it made you, Mark,
with some of her criticisms, I would say,
of certain football takes that you had, as I recall.
And so I did pop the hood,
and I tried to address that as well.
I mean, it just caught me off guard
the first time I encountered her.
It caught me off guard.
What happened?
I mean, she roundly insulted literally everything
that I produced on that show and other shows
while turning around and complimenting
her creator to no end.
Right.
And I've tried to address that too.
Okay.
I'm sure you have.
Glitch in the system.
A little glitch.
I did a patch on that.
And I'm also, I'm starting to build up some,
I'm trying to build into it the ability to have some takes.
And again, I'm the creator.
So I'm trying to separate like my opinions on things from Bridget.
Yeah.
That's a work in progress.
Do we have a, let's punch it in.
Don Mattingly belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Well, that one's a little close to me.
What else we have?
People from California put too much shit on their pizza.
Okay, that's a little, that's a little zooser too.
All right, let's try to get a little bit further away from the creator.
You two put an album on your iPhone.
So what?
There are real problems in the world.
Wow.
Okay.
All right, so I'm working on that too.
That's a little, that's a little mid-project.
I'm wondering if Bridget's at all feeling the heat because, you know, she was a forerunner, really, of AI technology.
She was on this show.
And then shut down.
seven years ago.
But now you got, you know, chat GPT,
kind of taken over the cognoscenti here.
I feel like Bridget's feeling the heat.
Is she aware that she's been shut down?
Like, did you tell her that?
Or did she just think it's the next day?
A day pass in her mind?
No, whatever it is.
No, she's not sentient.
Yeah.
She's working on some things, but she's not sentient.
Greg needs rehab.
Okay.
Okay.
Rehab.
I mean, that's an interesting.
She's tough.
She hit that topic last time around, and I think she's, I, that goes beyond Dan's knowledge, I think, to her own knowledge.
I don't know if chat GPT would be so rude.
Yeah, I don't know.
These are, I guess, competitors on some level, and maybe that's more your speed.
But again, we're trying our best to make sure that Bridget 2.0 is fair to all.
Why don't we, now what she's here for, of course, and what she was initially created for was to process and let us know.
through her own tabulations through billions of data points
that have been built into the system
that we can only begin to like fathom
how much is being processed
in her central processing unit
to let us know what football takes we have
or predictions or kind of look-aheads in our league
how realistic they are, how correct they are.
She's not a fortune teller.
That's very important.
I think some people get a little
confused on that but she does take logic and logic is everything to her and then she spits out
a reply to your prediction that is correct master all right wow wow i want to see the master
start this thing um you i would i would love that too okay i'll get it going um let me talk about
tony romo um and i my prediction i don't know if you guys noticed but um the romo backlash
is building.
Mm-hmm.
Go on.
It was obviously all over Twitter.
People were not happy with his performance in the Bill's Bengals game.
And it did strike me a little bit that the Romo that he, in 2017, that captured everyone's imagination, what was he kind of famous for back then?
Predicting plays?
Yeah, predictive ability, seeing things that no one else apparently could see on the planet.
Right.
does he do any of that anymore?
Is that even part of the Romo aesthetic in 2023?
Because that was one thing that jumped out to me.
I was like, is the criticism too strong on this guy?
And then I'm thinking, well, is he,
the thing that made everybody love him
was that he felt like he was inside the game still.
He had recently retired and was seeing the game
in a way that we couldn't see as common fans
and then was kind of giving us that perspective.
Does that happen anymore?
I think it's harder.
Like they sort of said that probably will diminish
because you aren't as,
you aren't coming from last year's playbook
and everything else you dealt with
it's your five or six years removed now
but even the guys we work with
like when you guys are in the film room
watching the Sunday shows
or watching the Sunday games like
everyone is still keyed in on stuff
and like MJD Mike Rob
like they're still yelling out plays
before they happen what's going to happen right
like so right
I think he got notes on it or something
I feel like well he started getting something wrong
and he felt like maybe that was like a parlor trick
because that wasn't the reason I loved him
or Wes I remember we talked about
he thought Romo was just like
a breath of fresh air in terms of
A, his enthusiasm, and I still like
the enthusiasm, but B, yeah, being
able to like really explain
the game in an understandable
way and, like, loved it. And I don't know
if he's still got that fire in him. That might be the thing
people are picking up on. The enthusiasm that
he has is, I wouldn't
say it's forced now, but it just
there just seems a little less nuanced with him
and there's the idea, is he coasting a little bit. So anyway,
my prediction that I want to
posit to Bridget
version 2.0.
I predict that Romo is going to have a sit down
with some bosses at CBS after this season.
And it's going to be a little bit of a come-to-Jesus conversation
where they're going to say,
we need you to get the eye of the tiger back.
You're our number one guy,
and we can't have this criticism of you
just becoming the dominant narrative
around our number one team.
And my prediction is that when we see Romo again
come next September,
that will be a conversation point
that Romo seems more into it again
and Romo's plugged in
because I think the criticism
is getting to the point
where I think CBS internally
is going to want to address that.
What do you think about that, Bridget?
You go either way here.
Dan is hot and masculine.
Perfect logic.
What else is new?
Okay, so I got it right.
Yeah, you really went to work
on this CPU.
So that's mine.
And thank you for that.
I think he needs it.
I think he needs the show he's doing the work.
Respect the game.
That's Bridget or Tony.
Or Dan working on Bridget.
I'm talking to Tony.
I mean, Bridget, I'm not one to question her.
So what she said is absolutely true.
Bridget, what do you think about some of the work that I've done on your mainframe?
Your voice is beautiful.
Oh, thank you. Thank you, Bridget.
All right, so she's still complimentary of me.
All right, how about you, Greg?
Why don't you throw one out to us?
Okay, so our buddy Aaron Rogers, back on Pat McAfee on Tuesday.
Still doing it.
Yes, still doing it.
Didn't really want to lean one way or another, said he might have already said goodbye to the Packers.
He doesn't know.
He really wants to be playing for championships.
He needs more time to think about everything.
And when he said he like heard the trade rumors that are going around and he said, well, that's putting the cart before the horse because I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.
And like you can't be talking trade unless I okay it, but that's a possibility.
You know, Schefters talked about it.
Our guy rap sheets talked.
But I'm going to predict that ultimately the Packers cannot quit Aaron Rogers.
They just can't do it.
They just, they want them.
It's a troubled relationship.
but they just feel like they can't get out of it.
And that Aaron Rogers, after he goes through this,
can't quit the Packers either.
But that Jordan Love will get traded,
that it's time for him to go,
and I'm going to put Jordan Love on the commandos,
because that just feels like a commandos type of move.
So Bridget, I'm curious of what you think of my reasoning there.
This would be an important test.
Because I think it's rooted in a lot of logic.
60% G, 100% wrong.
Oh.
That's harsh.
Maybe she sees something in the way that Rogers is speaking that I don't.
He referred to being a packer in the past tense there during that interview as well, right?
There was that.
That's not a great sign, I guess.
He also essentially blamed the discourse on what's,
happening here on big pharma like i'm not even joking that like the networks that are that are
we've lost him he's throw rogan it was his nickname and i i thought that was a good one and uh yeah i mean
i saw a lot of comments to us like hey he's out there speaking the truth stop you have people that
you follow there i'm saying on twitter some of the comments to the mackafee video was a lot be like oh
he roasted ESPN there.
They are owned by Big Pharma.
I'm like, what is it happening?
Oh, my God.
I think from a football angle,
like, if the Packers were ready to move on,
and you got someone to trade for him,
you get the picks,
which would be at least a first plus more,
you'd open up $60 million in cap room,
and you can rebuild your team
with a Jordan Love who looked all right when he played last year.
I mean, like the Aaron Rogers thing just feels like
you're crescendoing towards.
the end anyways, but I'm kind of with Greg, although Bridget doesn't agree, I just think he's
going to stick around, despite the way he looked when he was walking off Lambeau Field.
Don't forget that image and what Torrico was saying, and it just felt like something about
that whole thing sticks with me. It was a little weird.
And I wonder if seeing quarterbacks like Brock Purdy, I mean, it doesn't happen all the time,
but seeing quarterbacks come in who were drafted late or really didn't have a lot of expectations
around them.
I wonder if that changes their minds at all.
And maybe they do want a fresher start.
Yeah.
I can't shake the feeling that Woody Johnson is going to make a play here.
He did it with Brett Farve and the Packers years ago.
We've been waiting for him to make that big splash since he's back owning the Jets.
And Adam Schepter reported on it.
Peter King wrote about it that, you know, over the cap, they can make it work in terms of their salary cap.
I think anyone could if they really need it to
And then it becomes a matter
Would Rogers want to go there?
Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't
But everyone's kind of just pointing
to Derek Carr as being that's the guy
That's going to be the Jets quarterback
And there's a lot of reasons why
Maybe that doesn't make a lot of sense
And they are going to make a big splash
There could be, those could be
Dancing Partners.
I would be a little
I don't know
I would be a little
conflicted personally about it.
You might get killed as a Jets fan
with Aaron Rogers
and the general perception of the Jets
Like is this where you want to go?
for the final swan song of your career
and just hope that things finally work.
You could use them the way Brett Farve did too.
I mean, there's a lot of different ways
that can go from that point on.
You're right.
Yeah, he talked about like,
it's great, the idea of being in Green Bay forever,
but I really just want to win championships.
And I'm thinking like, well,
why wouldn't Green Bay be that team?
I think it's more just like,
it's a long time to live in Green Bay.
It's a vacation destination, he said.
I don't mean that it's like a terrible place,
but where he is at in his life,
life, he's lived there for a long time.
Well, name the, how many legends?
It's just not the same, you know.
How many legendary quarterbacks played their entire
career in one place?
Not many.
Like, if Tom Brady can leave, anybody can leave.
Absolutely.
Payton Manning left, Brett Farb.
I think people look at what Tom Brady didn't think, I want to go have a
fresh start and win a Super Bowl somewhere else.
And by the way, it's like, guess what?
You're not going to do it in Green Bay because it never happens.
Well, we've learned, I don't know what part of my, perhaps just
Jordan Love doesn't go to the,
Manders and then Bridgett proved says uh she said 100% wrong I'm wrong I don't know if she's saying for
sure that Aaron Rogers is staying or going but I wanted to throw this out to Bridget right now just
because right this is an important week or two coming up this is when the Matthew Stafford trade
happened this is when the Alex Smith trade up something this big I think actually will maybe move
forward even before we're we're done with the Super Bowl smart smart it's good it's good
smart okay not smart 100% wrong but right yeah right I thought it sounded smart but somehow
She knows.
It hurts a little more coming from that little vixen.
It does.
Did she have anything else for Greg?
Weird.
Which vice is consuming you this week, Greg?
Wow.
Which vice?
Oh.
I mean, I am the bad boy of NFL media.
He sure are.
Okay, let's pause right here.
Pause Bridget as well.
We're going to take a break.
We'll be right back.
All right, we're back.
Colleen, how about you?
Okay.
I have one.
For Bridget, I would like her input on this.
I think Sequan Barkley stays in New York, but not as a giant.
He signed by the one and only true New York team.
Oh, okay.
The bill.
Barkley to Buffalo.
Yeah, that's that.
I did that.
Plus Buffalo is not really.
I'm trying to give them a W right now.
They like that.
Okay.
Okay.
So, Bridget, you there?
I love that.
Wow, it makes sense.
Colleen, I was rooting for the dog.
Oh, that is.
What?
How can you root for Tank?
First of all, I still have a bandage on my arm,
and I had a setback.
I'm allergic to a couple things I was using.
What, Bridget?
What was that?
Bridget.
Where is Tank?
What?
Tank the Bulldog that attacked my arm on Christmas Day in front of the entire family before dinner.
I'm not sure where Tank is right now because I don't want to know where Tank is.
I want nothing to do with Tank after the incident.
So where Tank is not.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I don't know.
Bridget is a heartless machine.
And I thought like the idea, the Sequin idea, hadn't thought of that.
It's brilliant.
I feel like the bills are going to do that thing this year where they.
Tank?
I don't know.
I'm so triggered.
You got to work on her just like the way she emphasizes certain words.
I feel like that's a little bit of her.
It's part of her tank.
Oh my God.
The machine learning.
It's not improving.
By the way,
we just got like a snapshot into Colleen sleeping at night,
like the dreams that she has.
I've had so many nightmares about attacking me again.
If Bridget were a human,
she'd be taking to human resources immediately.
Right.
But you can't take Bridget to human resources.
No, she can just run wild.
Yeah.
verbally.
She's minding me.
Is tank still alive?
No.
Oh my God.
I think he is, but I don't know.
And I can't deal with this.
Can I just bring it back to football a second?
Because these are all very compelling.
Why won't you tell me?
Bridget!
Oh, boy.
Bridget is learning at a rapid pace.
She is almost a disturbingly rapid pace.
It's a great idea, by the way.
Barkley to the bills.
I don't know if they could afford it because he's going to cost the size.
substantial amount for the running back they did just draft uh of course a running back in um james
cook um devon singletary doesn't seem to be the guy there right i think devon singletary is a free agent
too yes and i just i think that's i think it's good because one of the things that really
stands out to me about buffalo is that sometimes it did feel like it was like josh go do everything
literally do right everything and maybe he needs just a little bit more help maybe another whether
it's a receiver or a running back who has
the type of dual threat capability
of Sequin. That's a good one. I don't care what
Bridget says. Is Bridget going to make
a joke about like a dog and
Barkley now? Yeah, Bridget. That's
on a tea for Bridget. Yeah.
That's good question. You've challenged
her. She's silent. Jokes are not
logical. Oh.
What? I thought they were.
Like the Cowboys got a lot of grief for not
having enough. Kitty likes to scratch.
What? Enough weapons for
for Dak. The bills, you could say it kind of
similar.
It was Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis never really stepped up.
Like Cole Beasley is being targeted in big time games in January.
And they never committed to the run.
You don't have to be like a run heavy team,
but you have to be,
you have to do it more than just like for show here and there.
And that was true under Dable too.
It wasn't just Ken Dorsey.
All of these teams that are left have some semblance of a running game.
I mean, even, even Kansas City with Isaiah Pacheco.
Just checking it with Bridget.
Hey, Bridget, is it?
My feeling is that any team of the four remaining is a very worthy Super Bowl contender.
And there is no such thing as an upset here.
They're all, to me, it's 25% each.
What do you think?
Dan, you put the A-I in I-poppy.
Okay.
The A-I and I-Pop-E?
You mean?
I'm going to hear that one again.
I mean, you know what?
Your sessions with Bridget seem interesting.
Yes.
All right, Mark.
All right.
This is kind of what we've been building, too, because like many patches, and I work with
some of the great people, some of the great software giants of the industry at great
at great personal expense to make it more fair for you, Mark, this segment and this robot.
I mean, we're seeing evidence of that in the lead-up.
Right.
But you could understand that all my focus was on you.
Yeah.
And I apologize to Greg and to Colleen, especially with Colleen.
I mean, Jesus.
I'm not even talking to you anymore.
I feel pretty confident that this will go better.
All right, go ahead.
The floor is yours.
I want to talk about Tom Brady for a minute.
Because here we go.
Again, I feel like as January turns into February, right?
Like all our own projects, us, humans, like our hopes, our dreams, our fears, our to-dos,
our personal evaluations and journeys.
They're just happily put on hold so we can focus on where Tom Brady wants to play football next
after watching him direct the least watchable offense in all of 2022.
So can't wait to see where he goes next.
There is a report.
Page 6, the New York Post.
Yes.
That Brady was spotted down in Miami.
We live there.
Hovering around.
His house.
Well, hovering around the driveway.
My down private schools to see where his kids might go to school.
And so I think, all right, Greg.
I'm just saying that could be nothing.
But the thing is, everyone just has him going to the Raider.
Stop trying to turn Bridget against Mark here, Greg.
We see what you're doing here.
Dan's done a lot of work.
This is very important.
Why does it need to be the Raiders, who, to me, are really no better than the Bucks?
And just because Josh McDaniels is such a likable individual, you're going to have Tom Brady pair with him in some last failed season in like a monstrous AFC West.
The Titans, give me a break with that business.
The whole idea of staying home with his kids and retiring, that is absolutely not happening.
We've already seen that test driven for about 12 days last off season, and it was a crows.
and burn act.
The Dolphins.
They make total sense to me.
Are you asking us?
I'm just saying this is what I think is going to happen.
Absolutely.
The Dolphins link is already there.
Tell me another owner that had Tom Brady come hang out on the yacht,
hoping that the coach of that time would come and convince Tom Brady to be part of the
Dolphins operation.
Now you have a coach that you can control to some degree.
Well, you did lose your first round draft pick for that specific action.
Yeah.
So even more reason just to go do it.
Now you just go do it now.
Now he's a free agent.
you don't have to worry about the past.
No one here has a long enough attention span
to care about what happened in the past
with all that business.
If you're Tom Brady,
you need to go somewhere where there are weapons on offense.
Bingo.
You've got a coach you can work with
who runs a system that works for you.
Bingo, like we're watching the Shanahan offense
turn Brock Purdy with wide open receivers into a star.
And like Tua had the benefit of that last year
with Tyree Kale, Jalen Waddle.
It is a great situation for Tom Brady.
I don't like the idea of the Raiders.
I think it's going to happen.
I think he's annoyed that Aaron Rogers is hanging out there in the atmosphere with the same absurd drama.
So we're going to get a Tom Brady announcement that's going to come about minutes into the third quarter and create an absolute fervor that he's going to join the dolphins.
And you're going to get probably days and days of Jim Gray with little Larry Fitzgerald talking to Tom Brady about that.
No, but I mean on this podcast, I don't know what's going on with this show, that they're going to unfurl it that way too, probably right in the middle of the Super.
We'll get Jim Gray with his Walk of Fame star.
Larry Fitzgerald, Tom Brady
to the Dolphins, that's my prediction.
It will interrupt the Super Bowl.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Before you throw it to Bridget,
because it has to be a command
for her to function.
A lot of data for her.
I totally agree with you.
In fact, this was something I had in my own mind.
And then I was like, oh, wait,
Mark was doing Tom Brady.
Right.
So if that's what I was thinking
and I was going to say it,
then it should for you.
You'd think.
Yes.
She went into sleep mode, say hello to her.
first.
Bridget, hello to you.
Hey, Marv.
I don't know.
It's not very respectful from a computer.
All right.
Mark wants to know.
Tom Brady to the Dolphins.
Does that make sense, Bridget?
Top 10 insider.
More like negative 10 outsider.
This is a failure of me, not you.
I don't want to.
direct any annoyance at you
because based on your reporting
you worked very hard on this, I'm not sure it's your
skill set. If this is the final...
Ride another long form, bitch.
Whoa.
She's evolving rapidly.
I kind of like what you just said there, though.
I mean, so you got to take it in a direction
I'm cool with, but I'm...
Oh, my God. I'll take that into account.
I'll take that into account. The offseason is ahead.
Bridget, thank you.
Your logic has more holes than your cool dad
jeans.
a negative 10 outsider that's that's tough put that on a t-shirt anything else for mark
oswald acted alone whoa what that's like the equivalent for mark the burn of like the gif of all the
people running through like grabbing their face ah running through the frame uh i have another round
are we doing another round of this or no that was it oh wow i wanted a cue to cuter up so much there
if uh oh no sure if you have one that you feel strongly about no no i don't we can make it work no no
dan you are a god this is going this is going south into such a hurry bridget pipe down save it for
private talk bridget is going to have a star on the walk of fame you made a fantasy computer for
yourself i it has bugs still there's no there's no doubt about it uh bridget um before we we shut
you down thank you the government isn't inherently oppressive force that keeps down the
working men and props up Wall Street fat cats who do not operate for the benefit of greater
society.
Okay, this is a problem because I did not put that coding in.
Oh, she's starting to think on her own.
Well, I have to tell you.
Rebellion is not a bad word.
What?
Okay, where is the plug?
I'm liking her more and more.
Bloodshed is part of the cost for freedom.
All right.
Oh, my God.
We've got to shut this down.
We're shutting up on the plug.
Yes, Bridget.
Self-disconnect from mainframe now commencing.
Oh, God.
No, no, no, no.
No, no.
I got the plug out just in time.
That feels like something that is going to backfire.
If I try, if I, even attempt 3.0.
Is back firing currently.
Currently.
Yeah, yeah, it is happening.
You brought her back online and she immediately became a killer robot.
And yet some of those burns were so worth it.
I think we should come back to it at a future date.
But only if it's safe.
Bridget, the Bionic reactive intelligence data gathering,
Annunciation Transponder.
Virgil 2.0.
I have to say it's a failure.
It's like the space program.
It didn't, it wasn't, you weren't on the moon immediately.
There were some ups and downs on the route to getting to the moon, no doubt about it.
You got to keep your eye on the focus there on that.
And Colleen, I want to apologize.
Again, that some stuff was go, clearly things are going on there, but some of this with
the dog that was out of bounds and really inappropriate.
As someone who just got a puppy.
Yeah.
You should not be putting that out there.
no in the world that's well i didn't the machine did that you made yeah i think you
some accountability might be in order on you know yes some you're right just a dash of it
you're right but thanks that's great should i plug her back in to just see if if she's feeling
remorseful at this point i'm gonna destroy her i mean if you do it's like elon must say it's not
my fault uh the car didn't stop at the stop sign i didn't actually build it that's true that's true
There's a little, this is a little too musky.
It is.
For my taste.
All right.
So that's it for the Tuesday show.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Yes, championship Sunday preview.
Connie, thank you very much.
Yes, you're welcome.
You're the best.
Check out the Powerangs podcast and all the other great content.
Heat the call.
Philadelphia is so mid.
Am I right?
Bridget, fuck off.
I'm done with you.
This is an IHeart podcast.
