NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast II: Free Agency is Coming!

Episode Date: March 16, 2020

A chat room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler bring you all of the latest news from the weekend. It couldn't wait until Monday! Tannehill signed a new ...deal and the CBA was voted on.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 This is like when they do the documentary about our podcast, they'll be like, it was really during the pandemic that they took it to the next level. Like those ATN guys, they were around and they were doing great work and they had a solid fan base. When that pandemic hit, oh my God, they took off. You know what? To borrow one of their terms, they made the leap. It's the guy, what's his name from the NFL Films?
Starting point is 00:02:46 With the name, the Italian name, Damon Amelero. Oh, Amendalera, yeah. Like his greatest career accomplishment is that somehow he managed to be an. every single NFL top 10 episode ever aired on NFL network. A mandolera taking shot. Well, no, Amanda Lera's had a nice career, I think, up there in New England and all that. But what, in terms of greatest accomplishments, imagine being on every, it's like the equivalent of Jennifer Aniston on every episode of Friends.
Starting point is 00:03:17 He somehow did it for a clip show. Although, as we, as we are aware, they don't pay you for that clip show. So, I don't know if it's that big a win. Yeah. So what about Nestor? It's like there's a fine line between win and desperate. At most we get like,
Starting point is 00:03:32 we'll get like a pound cake from like Southampton, England. That's at most what we receive for this effort. So, where are we right now? Well, we're across Los Angeles. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:03:49 It's a bunker cast 2.0. So I'm in the throwback podcast garage at my place. Wes, you're in front of the the pretty lights with the good feng shui got the good backyard lights going on too in your
Starting point is 00:04:02 abode Greg you are in the same room as Friday show I'm in my bedroom now I've moved that is that has a lot to break down there where all the magic happens
Starting point is 00:04:15 and Mark you talk a lot about how your house is always overrun by children at this hour are they in bed right now and where are you are you in the shack the back shack I'm in parts unknown I'm not even at my home address. Not going to get into any further details about that.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Wait, really? Oh, no. He did it. He was convinced the NFL to put him up in a hotel. Oh, I'm not convinced them to do anything. It's just that whenever this podcast comes around, it will cost me something. And this time around, it's cost me greenbacks, dollars, human dollars. You did not.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It's the dedication that I have to this show. You spend five minutes. There's no way. Spend five minutes in my house. Spend five minutes in my house and act as walk around, prance around my home and act like you could broadcast a football show about Ryan Tannahill. I guarantee you you could not. So, you know. But, but let's be real, you're never really, it's not that hard for you to come up with an idea of why you need to be out of the house and in a hotel somewhere. So this just lined up nicely, right? This is kind of a Nice coincidence. Once again, the pandemic coming up big for you.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Separate issue. Are you going to sleep there? That is a personal question, Greg. That's not for the British and the Scottish to know. Is that more of a motel? It is. No, actually, I will, to be honest, we are in a, this is a very, you know what, wait, I took us this log to get honest. A ton of people watching this are in the same situation.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You have two parents working. You've got kids that have been suddenly released out of their structure onto the home front. And the wife and I very collaboratively, as a duo came up with a solution where we can both work. And this is my day to work here. And we have found a home base for her to work here on her days. So, you know, she will not be joining the show. What is going on? It's hard to explain.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It is hard to explain. You guys have booked a hotel for the week, and you're going to alternate days at the hotel? We found a very low-level accommodation where we can both have essentially an office space. You know, and I think that a lot of people think, my children are wonderful and mine are, but they are also quite loud and destructive at times. And it's not the most work-friendly environment to do something on microphone. So when you weren't sure about taping tonight, it's because you had a big date with, you know, Skinimax a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Like, what's going on? I don't, Greg, I don't think that that network even exists at this point. So that is, I don't know where, what era. Again, I'm not sure what era you live in, but that is, that, that is not an active channel at this point. And what's the rate per hour at this motel? Is it like a friend's house or something? I think I've answered enough questions. Like, why am I something being thrilled?
Starting point is 00:07:17 Like, I, like, I, it was a stretch that I signed up. to do this. I don't need to be grilled the entire time. Move on into the low-level signings that have plagued the day. Okay, so we're not... Don't bring a plague right now. Yeah, let's address this, because we wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:07:34 doing this, Mark. I know you're annoyed for it. If it wasn't... I'm not annoyed. It's just the opening of the show is slightly annoying, but yeah. If it was like Ryan Tannahill and Callais Campbell deals, which we'll get to happening, I don't think we would have done this show. But this really was like a day
Starting point is 00:07:50 the NFL, unlike the NFL's ever had. The fact that you agreed to a collective bargaining agreement basically would have been the high point of Roger Goodell's life in career. And by the end of the day, it felt like kind of like a minor story. I mean, a lot of things in the NFL feel like a minor story right now. But to like to go to the 17 game season and everything that happens with the new CBA,
Starting point is 00:08:14 and then by the end of it, the fact that free agency is still going on, it's just, I don't know. there has never been anything like this in our lives NFL related but certainly just in terms of the world and how the NFL fits into it is fascinating because it seems like it's the only major business that's in sporting event that's trying to not be affected do you think an urban motel is COVID 19 safe like is it do you think it's a place or he's in the clear right now it's a good question I mean if anything I brought the COVID with me it's not that it you know I didn't arrive into the COVID. I brought it with me. But I think Greg, Greg made a very salient point there that was a nice introduction. And let's dive back into, and by the way, Erica is in the middle of, Erica's with us, Ricky Hollywood, in the middle of hosting an online movie marathon, book smart. And you're not able to comment on the movie at all because you're doing this with us. So, you know, let's shift into your annoying. Yeah, I was live tweeting. My hashtag virtual movie night,
Starting point is 00:09:19 VMN. Lakeisha's watching. Colleen's watching. Cynthia Freelan's watching. We're all live tweeting, you know. And Dan sent the text and here I am locked away in my bedroom. That's hot. Thanks. But you know, Greg brings up the good point because
Starting point is 00:09:38 this is also. Yeah, that was nice job by Greg. Good job there. But like this was, we're here because we kind of thought, like everybody thought that this free agency was going to get pushed back. Now, where we are now, it is 9.12 p.m. Pacific time. So it's after midnight on the East Coast. It could still happen.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I mean, the reports aren't there now is that the league it's going to start on time. And you're probably listening to this. And maybe it already has. I mean, and they sent a memo to the teams, you know, that it's starting out on time. And they sent that memo at 7 p.m. Eastern time. Right. But this is also a world where, and I'll quote the New York Times here, the centers for disease.
Starting point is 00:10:18 control and prevention recommended Sunday that no gatherings with 50 people or more, including weddings, festivals, parades, concerts, sporting events, or conferences be held in the United States for the next eight weeks in one of the federal government's most sweeping efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus. These are unprecedented times. So anything could change. But we are proceeding right now as if the NFL is about to go off as it does every year in this week of free agency, starting with Monday's legal tampering. period. So what we thought would be a good idea since we're going to have so much to unpacked when we do a show later Monday was to kind of catch up on the news that has happened
Starting point is 00:10:59 since we left you Friday. We taped Friday early afternoon here on the West Coast. And there's been quite a lot of it, Mark, including you mentioned Ryan Tanahill, which I find to be a rather saucy league news. But at all, of course, you have to keep everything in perspective. it is but i think that i think the bigger news and you know not to constantly cycle back to gregg's intro but it the cba getting something the timing of the whole thing because we we have been hitting on this in the lead up for weeks that the cb a timing with the launch the potential launch of the new league year and all the other stuff is i like feels like unlike anything we've experienced as NFL fans. And it was really, I don't know about you guys, but I was like on Twitter all day
Starting point is 00:11:48 long today trying to find out, is tomorrow's free agency bum rush going to happen or is it not? Like, it's like if you're us, you've got to find out what this week is about because it was one, it was very two distinct options. One, either we're heading into a waterfall of fire or everything goes totally silent for 10 to 14 days or more. And we got, and I thought all along, I was told by someone actually, and I sent this to you guys, someone very confidently told me, this is not happening. The league year is not happening. You can sit back in your easy chair if I owned one,
Starting point is 00:12:25 and you could just put your legs up, and it's time to go, like everyone else, start reading a ton of books and watching all the movies you never watched. But then suddenly... Mark, a little lesson in single sourcing there, huh? I single source. You've got a triple source that thing. I single sourced, a single source.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And you know what? I paid the price. I paid the price because right now I'm paying the price. So it's like we, I think the NFL and the NFLPA had no idea of themselves how this would end tonight. And here we are. All right. So let's get into it. A lot to break down starting yes with the collective bargaining agreement, which is in itself huge news. That's worth its own show. So let's get into it. Let's hit the news, Ricky. You say you're sorry. Sorry for purchasing. Sorry for buying all of this. No, I don't think that I would. Yes, that is a story that came up in the New York Times. A man bought 17,700 bottles of hand sanitizer, and his goal was to sell them online at a premium markup of almost $70. And it kind of blew up in his face.
Starting point is 00:13:41 and now he's decided just to donate him. So he's taking quite a financial hit. And you know what? That's what you get. You can't be greedy in times like this, humans. I think the proper level of shame was applied to the situation. Oh, he got killed. I mean, the New York Times did an article on him.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He sold 300 bottles of hand sanitizer at a markup on Amazon before the company removed his listings and warned sellers that they could be suspended for price gouging. So he did regret it. regretted apparently anyway all right let's get into it these are weird times everybody let's start with the news uh the NFL players association yes voted to ratify a new collective bargaining agreement that was previously approved by the NFL owners in February the final tally 1,019 to 959 very close vote that concluded at midnight Saturday the players signed off on the new CBA that that will begin with the upcoming 2020 season extends through the 2030 campaign,
Starting point is 00:14:47 and what are the notable changes? Okay, so we know it. The addition of two more playoff teams starting this season, 2020. Also, the option to increase the regular season to 17 games starting in 2021. The minimum salary shootup, performance-based pay and player revenue will go up. And there's a bunch of other things, of course, too. there's so much it's a very dense agreement but those are kind of the big
Starting point is 00:15:14 takeaways it's a done deal and that allows things to move forward in a time of such great uncertainty in the world in the NFL world everything would have been kind of torn asunder if this was a vote no it was close but it was a vote yes well the NFL got what it wanted with the 17 games
Starting point is 00:15:30 they get to take this deal and shop it to all the TV networks at the most optimal time for them or what they had planned to be the most optimal time with league peace and the players get what hasn't been reported a lot the pensions for about
Starting point is 00:15:48 11,000 former players go up 53%. That's good. Guys can get pensions now after three years instead of four if you've only been in the league for three years instead of four. And then you know the rosters go to 55 taxi squad goes up
Starting point is 00:16:03 so there's quite a bit they did get. Well they also you know get the 7 games if you're the owners, it doesn't seem to me like they had to give up that much to do it. If you had said when the last lockout happened that they ever would have added games to the schedule, I would have been surprised. It just felt like that was a no-go forever. And the fact that they got an extra game and they did it with a year to spare before the CBA even came up is amazing to me. And I think it was a good deal for the players too.
Starting point is 00:16:40 for a lot of reasons, and if they're willing to play 17 games, that's fine. You get rid of the preseason game, and on you go. But it's amazing listening to Mike Garifolo talking NFL network today that he thinks that there was like a late vote, and it's hard to really get the data on this, but that basically the situation changed so much from when the voting opened to when the voting closed that he said he talked to some players that had voted no. that maybe would have changed their mind and voted yes by the end of the week because we're entering a period of unprecedented uncertainty and that maybe there were plenty of owners who wouldn't have been that disappointed if the players had voted no because they wouldn't have offered such a good deal. Like it felt like a lot of the players voting late and the NFLPA tried to get them to vote as much as they could late in the week maybe voted more to pass it and it barely passed.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I think it's notable also that one of the side stories was that I believe it was 500 plus players that didn't vote at all, and you've got certain players, they talked about leaning on their reps to kind of represent them, which I don't know if that's for a lack of having really studied what was in the CBA or just disinterest, the same way with any vote that some people just decide not on either side or want to see if it gets rejected. and we can renegotiate. We're happy with that. I'm just wondering, is anyone, like, I'm kind of warming up to 17 games basically because, like with anything at work where they say, here's what's happening now, and you either just have to accept it or decide not to work there anymore,
Starting point is 00:18:27 like it's, I'm warming up to it. I don't, I've never really been a fan of 17 games because I find it unnecessary. I find it asymmetrical, which I think we've talked about before. I have always been a fan of the 500 record where it basically tells you you are ragingly mediocre. You're 8 and 8. And now none of that exists anymore. Well, just it's very, it was a penalty. Right. Eight and eight was a penalty. Right. You know what I mean? It was like you are a middling team. But you know what? To me, this is one part of this is yes, it's going to be asymmetrical, but it was also deal with the devil is strong because that's not a good connotation. But there's a Pandora's box.
Starting point is 00:19:08 element to this that it's 17, it's going to be 18 eventually because it just makes too much sense. If it says 17, 18 is going to happen as well. And then they, that will be the next thing that gets pushed for. Guarantee it, 2030. What, so I do, to me, I think that this CBA matters because compared to the last one, there's always these changes that matter for the players. But for the football fan, this CBA has to be one of the biggest of the last three or four decades because you're getting 17 games and suddenly you're getting a seven playoff team. And if you look at the teams from last year, and, you know, there are years where it would pan out where you get that team in there that you, everyone wanted in the playoffs. That's cool. I can sign up for that. Last year,
Starting point is 00:19:49 it would have been the eight and eight Steelers and the Rams. We know that some people love the idea the Rams being in there, but still, it wasn't like on fire. Who are those people? Well, I mean, I'm looking at one of them right now. No, I went. No one wanted to watch that team. But, you know, But it's just, I'm saying, like, you're not, you're not, it's like 12 and four teams haven't been left out of the mix here. So my one issue is that I always thought the NFL restricted, for the most part, half-ass operations from January. Whereas, like, if you're, if you're an NHL fan, every team, but like the New Jersey
Starting point is 00:20:24 Devils slips into the playoffs and the playoffs go on for four and a half months. Like, are we creeping? Are we creeping into that world? or I like when Mark pretends to know anything about any other sport. Listen, I listen to enough. You rolling over. I listen to like 7,000 hours of WFN. I know that like 82 hockey teams get in and you don't need that much.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But I'm cool with all of it. I just some of the playoff teams that would slip into me are do not deserve to be in that arena. Mark, we got, Mark, we got it. I made yourself very clear here. I'm not going to talk for 20 minutes. Can I just say one thing though? I think you referred to it as half-ass teams getting into the playoffs. Mark, you and I both root for half-ass teams or whatever your term was.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You're like a quarter-ass. Quarter-ass. But I don't find it right. This is great. I don't find it right that like for instance. Well, it is. It is what it is. No, but it's like if last year.
Starting point is 00:21:14 If last year's Cleveland team had knocked off Pittsburgh in that second meeting, they would have essentially been in line to make the playoffs. They are the quintessential team to me that did not do anything deserving of January football. But let's just fast forward to January mark and the nine and eight Browns. sneak into the playoffs. I'll be good with that. You're going to be on fire. Well, I don't know. It seems like it's about. It's about, you know, it's better for fans, I think, ultimately.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And I do like that the buy now is this total. It's this golden thing. There's only one in each conference. And you, that's one person, one team gets it and everybody else has to claw and fight their way through the first round. I kind of love that. So I'm not in on the extra game, but I love the extra teams of the playoffs. I'm loving Mark in the motel.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I mean, so far we've got ragingly mediocre, which is a great turn of phrase, and a waterfall of fire of news. Yeah, I love the waterfall of fire. It's like the Game of Thrones last episode. Not a motel. Is it someone's house? No, keep picking up your little investigative journals. You're not any closer to where I am. I just saw a parasite last night.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Is there a parasite situation going on right now? No more comments. No comments. What's that wacky poster behind you on the wall? not familiar with it i'll have to take where do you where are the where are the bodies of the people that own the house also also not describing that i i i do want to say before we move on to there's a couple like little small things where you have extra guys you know on game day the 17th game will not be around until 2021 at the very least uh so no nine and eight teams uh this year but
Starting point is 00:22:53 you do have the playoff teams uh this year and and it's funny that like I remember everyone thought that Roger Goodell was going to retire after this. This was, like, his big, like, mission in life was to get them through one more CBA and one more TV deal. And it's very, like, Roger Goodell, just how his career has gotten it. Like, this should have been the best day of his career. But instead, like, they have been fighting and on the phone trying to figure out what's next and taking a lot of grief for it. Because it's kind of an impossible situation for everyone. he is a bit of a fascinating figure in NFL history we're living it in real time right now
Starting point is 00:23:32 but when you fast forward 25 years I'm interested interested to know what his legacy is there are certain areas of the country where it will not it doesn't matter and I'm referring to new england but you could probably point to other places where he's never going to be liked or respected but what what he presided over in terms of the league's growth and getting these deals done we're now going to be uh by my math, which is never to be trusted, after this CBA, assuming everything goes off without a hitch, it will be 43 seasons without a lost game or a game with replacement players. So that's unrivaled labor piece that the NFL has pulled off.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Well, Pete Roselle is the best commissioner in the history of sports, the NFL commissioner in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s. And what he went through in the 80s from a legal perspective was way more dramatic. and confrontational than anything Roger Gidell's had to go through. Who's the guy in between? Come on. Paul Tagliabu.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Hall of Famer coming up. The guy in between. That's my guy. I'll go with him. They love him in New Orleans. Paul Tagliu saved the Saints more than their ownership did. By the way, Dan, I think you might have been a full decade off
Starting point is 00:24:46 on your season without a skipped game. If you were going to the 87 season, that was 33 years ago, not 43. but I appreciate what you were attempting to do. Well, he's saying by the time this one ends, 2030. Yeah. You know, go lay down on your bedbug-infested slumber area. That's not the way three years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Are you saying to the end of this deal? Oh, please. Are you done? You have no idea what could happen. Does this week not tell you that you have no idea what could happen over the next 10 years? Mark is now predicting the NFL will be over before 2030. Wait, it's not stopping at the NFL. Mark, I preface it by saying.
Starting point is 00:25:24 saying barring something unforeseen. I think I covered the basis. Well, I thought I covered the basis with about 20 of my sandwich bets, but no one wants to bring that up. Well, I like again, it is a very, it's a very thing with the Sessler sandwich bets. People popping up in my timeline, well, Mark's done it again. Pay him up. Sandwiches. Anything that comes even remotely close to Mark production, we need to give out sandwiches. I'm not saying you have to give me anything, but I would say that like it's because there is a pandemic now we owe you sandwiches. real about the fact that like, you know, like if you're just trying to see into the future, which is a hazy employment to begin with, like you're not sure of dates, but you're getting
Starting point is 00:26:06 somewhere close and then bang, here we are. I mean, what were you saying? You are much closer to nailing this one. You might be an MVP, you know, candidate. Well, you know, that was also. You were much closer to nailing this one than the Philly Special. Oh, please. I'm going to, I will walk right up the door of this establishment that I'm in. I wouldn't do that. It's probably in a very seedy neighborhood of the Southland. It's not. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It's not. Let's move on. Ryan Tanna Hill. Oh, yeah. He's locked and loaded in Nashville. The Titans and their quarterback have agreed to terms on a four-year extension worth $118 million, including $62 million, fully guaranteed, $91 million in total guarantees. Yes, there is a difference.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Rap sheet had those numbers. So the Titans after, you know, We don't know if they ever flirted with the idea of Tom Brady. We all had a lot of fun with the Syracuse game, with Brady and Edelman doing the FaceTime call with Titans coach Mike Brable, which gave more thought to the idea that this could be a landing spot for Tom Brady. Also, Tom Kern of NBC Boston, threw it out there, that it was essentially Pat's Titans or Niners. Well, it looks like the Titans were all in on their guy,
Starting point is 00:27:22 or at least that's how it ended up. So Tannahill's locked in with Nashville, and that also, West, clears them if they choose to go the franchise tag route with Derek Henry. They now have that option because Tannahill is on the books. I love this one. All the people who can't acknowledge that the Tennessee Titans exist from September through the end of December now decide that they've overpaid for the quarterback because they saw a couple of playoff games in which Derek Henry ran for 200 yards and Tanna Hill didn't have to do much. They've all decided that their quarterback can't play and that the running back carried the team. Well, you would love for your quarterback to have a 117 passer rating, 10 yards per attempt, some of the best numbers we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Is there a risk? Sure. Derek Henry carried the offense for a long time. But as Greg pointed out in his debrief, Tannahill wasn't just great in play action, which he was. He was great without play action. He was great on everything he did. We talked about it during the year. We talked about during the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Tannahill played the way everybody wants their quarterback to play. If you're a fan of a team, you want your quarterback to play like Tannahill did. He's athletic enough. He runs well. He threw into tight windows. He threw deep. He was aggressive. He earned this contract.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Still young enough. He's not a guy that's on the wrong, you know, he's not on the wrong side of 35. So he should have a lot of good football left in him. It would have been really risky, I think, to let him go. And people getting on the contract, this is just what quarterbacks are paid. The only thing that was surprising to me about it is that it's basically a three-year deal. So the contract to me said a lot. I think it said that Tom Brady stuff was always nonsense because the fact that they announced this deal right after the CBA was agreed to shows that it was essentially agreed to beforehand.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And Ian Rappaport had said it was always going to be Tanna Hill. You don't just put a deal this complicated and important together at the last minute. So they were waiting to see what the rules were going to be, but they probably knew they were going to have Tannahill as their quarterback. Brady was never a primary option based on them finishing it so soon. And the fact that Tannahill thought, and he did have enough leverage to get $62 million guaranteed, so that's the first two years of the contract. In theory, the Titans could get out of it next year in a Nick Foles type way,
Starting point is 00:29:42 but it'd be so painful and so terrible that he would have to be absolutely terrible for them to consider that. And if he's on the team next year, the third year is guaranteed. So it's basically a three-year contract. They are in on Tannahill, and I'm with Wes. Yeah, it would have been risky. Like, everything is risky at quarterback, but it wouldn't be way more risky to try to get Tom Brady or anyone else.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I think it's instructive that Mike Rable, friend of Brady, former teammate of Brady, John Robinson, ex-patriots front office, lieutenant, and a bunch of patriots or ex-patriots on the Titans roster did not create some sort of title wave to pull Tom Brady to Tennessee, that they are the team that knows the current version of Ryan Tannahill better than anyone else in the NFL, and they made the decision. And this was not made today based on Tom Brady saying no to them.
Starting point is 00:30:41 We heard this, you know, a lot of these fresh reports from the last 24 hours that the Titans were in on Ryan Tannahill. Ian had this a week plus ago. This has been on a show already. And the Titans were married to the idea of bringing him back. And the one thing that stands out to me what I saw about Tannahill over and over was just, and it sounds almost like a cliche football phrase, but just throwing his body into the fray, totally sacrificing himself for that team, week after week down the stretch. He fits the mental and physical, psychological makeup of the Titans. and why break away with what they had going on? I have no problem with it. I don't like Tanna Hill anywhere else. I wouldn't have liked him going to another team, but I love them bringing him and Henry back
Starting point is 00:31:29 and that they showed, I thought, sort of a clarity of vision from the start, you know, what they wanted. It wasn't really a Brady thing. That was more on Brady's side. Yeah, I think it was the right move. And, you know, people that are surprised. That's how the NFL works. I just, I finally caught up and saw the,
Starting point is 00:31:47 Mike Vic 30 for 30 four hour saga and it was a good reminder so Vic as an example signs a $100 million deal after his rookie contract with the Falcons of course then he runs into major
Starting point is 00:32:03 trouble with the law with the dogfight and goes to prison gets out of prison signs with the Eagles and then once he gets a chance at the starting job he has one good season and based off that one good season he got a second $100 million deal in his career not all guaranteed money but it just showed you that's how it works in the league and these
Starting point is 00:32:21 guys that in our league in this league and and the titans saw enough to say this is the guy we believe in and i'm with you guys it would have been a totally unnecessary risk in my mind to bring in tom brady based on name value and familiarity with the head coach this was the right move and i'm looking forward to watching the titans for the first time yeah yeah during the season and and and ian did report uh derrick henry is is expected to get that franchise tag. He said their long-term negotiations with Henry are basically non-existent. And Tannahill's money, by the, by the time he gets to the third year of this contract, he's going to be like the 15th or 16th or 17th highest paid quarterback. The money
Starting point is 00:33:01 won't seem that much. All the contracts are about to go bananas because of because of the CBA. In other big star news, the Jacksonville Jaguars are trading Kyleas Campbell to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for a fifth round pick. The Ravens then quickly got to work on a new contract for Campbell, according to Rapsheet, and they are close to finalizing a two-year, $27 million deal that will include $20 million guaranteed. Greg, this seems to me like your classic win now moved by a team. Campbell is getting older. He's 33 years old, but he is a proven contributor.
Starting point is 00:33:41 He's still maybe he's not at the height of his powers anymore, but is still a disruptive guy that is a great piece to add. to a defense that could use another disruptor in their front seven. Yeah, if they had a weakness, it was in the front seven and getting past rush pressure and Campbell still does that. He's turning 34, but you wouldn't know it based on his play. He's still been ranked in the top five of PFF in terms of interior guys or if you put him as a three, four defensive.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's just the type of trade. We've all been around each other too long. I just start thinking like how Mark would have thought. I just like the second this trade happened, I just imagine. and Mark being like, oh, the raven, you know, just like a typical raven's move. He's got to be sacking Baker Bayfield three times in week three. Wait, are you forgetting about Mark's headline from Super Bowl week? He's looking forward to the Ravens finally hoisting the Lombardi for the first time in several years.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Well, hold on. So my one note was winning the Super Bowl. They are going to. And I just think that they're, you know, we watch these teams that go from Farb to Rogers and Montana to Young. at quarterback, and you have Eric Dacosta who spent 16 years under Ozzie Newsom and is on a run right now to potentially match what Ozzie Newsom did if he went another 14 years, because what they got, how they unearth Mark Ingram and how they unearthed all these cast to
Starting point is 00:35:07 characters in the last couple of years for the very little cost and the low level of draft picks and what they do when they get 4,000 comp picks every year. They are one of the best. best-run teams in sports, and this is another example. Like, only certain teams should even trade for him. And they're one of those teams. He fits perfectly. He's one of the best locker room guys in the league, a lot like Mark Ingram. He's a perfect Raven, and they're going to go 14 and 2 and roll through the AFC.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And next year, I mean, why even play next season? I don't care. Add a 7th playoff team. Have a nice time. It's 7 and 10, you know, Detroit Lions or whatever you are. Please, I don't know. January 28th, 2020, Lamar Jackson among 10 NFL figures, I want to win a Super Bowl. Well, no, because you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Because you can't fight it. You can't fight it. If you are, if you have to just let the Earth energies take Lamar Jackson and the Ravens where they are, get flushed them through the system the same way we did with Patrick Mahomes. And maybe at some point, one of these lesser, you know, half-baked operation like your team or mine sneaks into this situation. We'll never happen. Why am I still doing this show at this point? That would be the question. So you've seen that the Ravens had two fifth round picks, right?
Starting point is 00:36:22 They had their own fifth round pick, which went for Marcus Peters. And then they had this fifth round pick from the Karay-Vevick trade when they traded their backup kicker to the Vikings. A police job. And they got to play as Campbell. So it's Karay Vedvick, their backup kicker who didn't make the team. He was traded and then got cut and then signed with the Jets and lost the Jets a game. that guy got them Calaisus Campbell like well that guy in a two year 27 million dollar contract Calais will have to have a good year because he's going to take up I think about 15 million of
Starting point is 00:36:54 their cap but this is a guy his numbers were down a little bit still one of the better I thought about him as a finalist for my all pro team probably at this stage more of a run guy than a than a pass rusher but he also was forced to play quite a bit inside last year because they wanted to get Josh Allen on the field more often this is a Super Bowl or bus season coming up for the Ravens. Lamar Jackson entering the third year of his rookie deal. He's now the reigning MVP. There's going to be a massive contract coming down the line for him.
Starting point is 00:37:25 If they're going to win it, and statistically, when you look at these guys, and it's why you look at the Cowboys and you have to worry about them a little bit with Dak Prescott and his contract coming up, you kind of got to win. You got to cash in when you have that window. The Ravens have to cash in in 2020. I found it interesting that, like, Leonard Fournett, I don't know if he was on a radio show or doing something the same way we are with just headphones in front of a screen grab camera. But like he was calling himself the Tim Duncan of the Jaguars because
Starting point is 00:37:55 everyone is coming. And people were saying the analogy actually doesn't really work and I will leave it to you NBA people. But he was just saying like how many rings for Leonard? Like call me the Tim Duncan. It's like wait. I mean if anyone was on essentially three years in a row of like totally hot water scenario, it felt like Leonard Fournette. But now he was. he is the constant there. So come on, Jaguars. How many ways would you like me to pick that apart? Yeah, Wes.
Starting point is 00:38:21 We could see up Wes for about an hour straight on that one. Give me a, what, Tim Duncan, first of all, he and Popovich were the infrastructure around which they had two decades of excellence. Leonard Fournette can't even average four yards of carry. Give me a break. So Tim Duncan is arguably the greatest power forward of all time. He won, what, six titles, Wes? So Leonard Four net would have to be.
Starting point is 00:38:44 the greatest running back, arguably of all time. He'd have to be Jim Brown level good, and he'd have to have almost as many Super Bowl rings as Tom Brady for that to play. I would say give it a week, Leonard. You might not be on that team anymore. I'm not even kidding. Set a tone for the entire organization and not the one where you don't work out in the offseason. In other news, Anthony Costanzo, the Colts left tackle.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He has agreed to terms with his team. The team announced it on Sunday. Tom Pelliserra reported the deals worth two years. and $33 million. He is 31 years old. He becomes the highest paid left tackle in the league for now. And Costanzo, who is a guy who has been very, very steady for the Colts. They decide to stay in business.
Starting point is 00:39:32 And remember, this is, despite a team that disappointed last year, one of the best, if not the best offensive line in football, they could turn around very quickly with a good offseason. Yeah, big win for them that they got them to. to not retire. He was going to be a free agent. He's someone where if he actually went to free agency, he took a hometown discount. You don't hear players taking hometown discounts too often, but like there's no question he would have made considerably more money if he just decided to become a free agent. Yeah, he was at the, I'm playing for the Colts or nobody stage
Starting point is 00:40:04 of his career. And have one of his best years last year struggles a little bit at times with the faster edge rushers, but still like you said, very solid at left tackle. One of my new rules. is I do not trust teams that find a way to lose their left tackle. If you're one of these teams, it's like, hey, we can't hang on to our left tackle. We're going to go into a season with like, you know, Joe Flabique playing bookend and you're screwed. Like I just, you're, you're out of my wheelhouse. So the cults are smart team. Like when the Browns let go of Mitchell Schwartz, I guess that's right tackle. Basically, yeah, like exactly. When you have Brett Beach saying and you have Andy Reid saying we had four Cleveland Browns playing on our offensive line last year.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Oh, excuse me, that's a coaching staff that understands what the sport isn't designed to do. I think it's possible you can get Greg Robinson back at a discount this off season. Yeah, I think so. Well, now that the marijuana laws have changed, you know, in the CBA, which we should have mentioned, get him right back in. In other players staying with their teams, news, Patriots have re-signed safety, Devin McCordy, to a two-year, $23 million deal, $17 million guaranteed. He's been with the team since 2010 when he's picked 27th overall,
Starting point is 00:41:21 and he plays every week. He's a rock on that team. And now I will tee up Erica to give her thoughts on the Devin McCordy re-signing. She's clearly not paying attention. Well, Katie is bringing me a new glass of wine because this was supposed to be a quick one, and we've been going for so damn long. But I'm excited. I think there's a lot of good stuff coming out of the Pat's organization, Dan,
Starting point is 00:41:46 and the fact that they re-sign the McCordy Twins and Slater, like there are some pieces that we're keeping in place, and that gives me solace. You're throwing in some extra news there. I love it. I love it, Tampo. She got the Jason McCordy. And, you know, there's maybe good news if you want Tom Brady back. Chris Sims reported today that, and he has Kyle Shanahan's initials tattooed somewhere on his body. So I feel like he's a good, source, this is a true story, that the 49ers are not interested at all in Tom Brady. So the Titans are out, 49ers are out. It's probably Bucks, Pats, and maybe the Chargers, but I don't really think the Chargers care.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So Bucks is too depressing. He has to just go back. I will give a wet kiss. I will give a wet kiss and handshake to every person in Los Angeles right now if Tom Brady signs with the Bucks. well what well no one wants that no but you don't want that they don't want that I might how's that sweating in the pot bring that Covina 19 my way no it is not Covina 19 that is not the technical term so in this situation Chris Sims is Rex Ryan and Kyle Shanahan is Mark Sandman no it was a group of them I think I think
Starting point is 00:43:03 Kyle Shanahan also has Kyle as Chris Sims's initials on him it was like a group of five or four or five bros that they all they all got their initials from UT but i'm i'm saying he's a good source it's a little mark you should know that i could actually see little green microbes floating behind you in your motel room well that's fine if this is the end you know this has been a joy to do this at nine 45 p.m pacific standard time uh anything else real quick let's hit a few more things bradley roby and the texans agree they do they do paper three years this feels extraneous um so uh gregg you wanted to talk no no i was saying no we're good but i think we're good you know the texans they don't have
Starting point is 00:43:53 anyone to play cornerback you got to sign someone i think uh ricky what is happening with your what is this um the viral um oh we just been doing yeah virtual movie nights hashtag vmn and we all just start a movie at the same time and can tweet and talk about it and so you can watch a movie with someone even if you're alone it's fun you know it's it's i want to say that that intellectual property ip might belong to me because i launched that with the love is blind after show live texting party that uh happened with us so maybe i get a cut on this if you end up monetizing it yeah what are you going to jump in on the next one and not schedule a podcast and well what what film is coming up next depends on the film um john uh calling
Starting point is 00:44:38 his husband John says that we he wants yeah he wants to watch I don't have any sound drops can you stop like setting me up for them like I'm literally in a bunker edit in post thanks um yeah shut up uh where he wants to do little women next so maybe Greg that would make you interested I love the new little women is I love the new little women I love the new little women I love Dan suggested that he's that he actually came up with the concept of multiple people watching movies together. This is Dan's intellectual property. This started with Dan roughly two weeks ago. Ricky, this is working out great for the virtual thing, because now everyone who listens to the podcast is going to know about it. I mean, based on the hashtag, it's only you and co-worker. Yeah, Colleen, Lakeisha, Sully, Emma.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's a good group. It's a fun group. but you could be doing it over text we might have to steal solely away from you what else do you have on twitter besides that's a good point we should launch a competing movie yeah and just do a better movie no we go dirty i like that how dirty you got to play to the cheap seats take away the crowd all right let's do it i'm there you're skin on russ mire's yeah um all right let's do roadhouse with Swayze. I feel like that could get a good crowd. Oh, that's a
Starting point is 00:46:11 good one. So what are we doing? We're doing podcasts every day this week. The crazy thing is they'll be if if free agency really happens as normal which I guess is is going to happen. Like this pretty much most of the NFL news for the year will be done like for the off season. It'll be
Starting point is 00:46:27 done by Friday. That sounds good. But yeah, we're going to be all over this. So you got your ATN bunker pod late night style. in your ears right now you'll have a show what
Starting point is 00:46:43 sorry there was a I've been live tweeting my virtual movie night and Lakeisha just tweeted at me something really like so laugh out by the way who's going to be editing and posting our podcast tonight when you're on your 14th glass of wine
Starting point is 00:47:01 watching your movie definitely me I'd want to say that you're a multi-class but you're only doing one task and it's not it's nothing to do with this show so so you know uh god willing we are going to run the table this week and uh attempt to do a show every week just like this uh keeping you the date uh every day excuse me uh keeping you up to date and recapping everything that's happened in the free agency week because while the world is spinning out of control the NFL has decided they will stay the course so we will stay the course with you
Starting point is 00:47:37 Follow along with us. Thank you for listening. Stay safe. Remember, wash your hands for 20 seconds. Got to get the inside of the hands. Everybody does the inside of the hands. We've got to do the outsides and you got to get the webbing area, you know, the connecting area. Get the cuticle too.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Thank you very much. Well, some people have a webbing situation and I want to be sensitive to the web people out there. And that's about it. Mark's neighbor over in 4C at the motel. He's a web guy. And Mark, it's probably not going to matter if the person that's looking for what's sewn into the mattress wants what they want. But put the chain on your door. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Farewell. And that odor that's coming from that closet, just keep the door closed. I'm in a delightful area, by the way. I think that if you were to see the entire compound that I'm in, you would have a different narrative. that curtain has been used as a transportation device for dead bodies all right mark well if if if what you're saying is correct that sounds like a very nice setup for you so you enjoy it and get a good night's sleep buddy
Starting point is 00:48:51 all right thank you very much i know it's good to know that you uh you are that you care very much that you're plugged in on a deep level uh this is dan hanser signing off for the quiet store God be with the quiet storm tonight. Keep him safe. We love him. The mailman, the old boss, and Ricky Hollywood, who's got a lot to do tonight. Thank you for listening. Until the legal tampering period. Later. Hey, Hey, everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here.
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