NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast! ™️ & NFL Cuts

Episode Date: March 13, 2020

A google hangout full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler all video chat about the Coronavirus and what it means for the NFL. As of now, free agency will still begin this upcoming Monday and the heroes discuss a slew of cuts that happened today in the league.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wesleyan, Greg Rosenthal. Oh, my goodness, what is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Oofa. This is an odd one. This is different territory for, well, I was going to say for the podcast, but then let me just, I'm going to pull that back, go above the tree. treetops and say human civilization, at least in modern culture.

So here we are. Well, I think we should explain where we are. We're in five different houses littered across the Los Angeles area on some Google hangout that Erica Tamposi did a great job setting up. Great job, Ricky. Yes, we are littered across the Southland. And per the rules of our company, the National Football League, and really, you know, as everyone knows, across this country and across the world, a lot of people now are not able to work from their office. We are no exception, at least for today. That might change next week.

In fact, it probably will. But for today, we are going this route. And who knows, depending on where things go with this coronavirus. pandemic this could be a regular way that we stay in communication until the show goes from five people to four to three

to two and then me just me as the host that'd be cool oh you survive yeah that'd be fine oh I'm alive by the way I just want everybody to know I'm okay I it was medium C was an accurate

description it wait medium C is the coronavirus Oh, is that what that was decided? Yeah. You add the little C. Maybe like the medium rare C. I don't know.

I had strep throat, and I am back to 100% now. And it is a weird time. Also, weird week to get sick. But I was never concerned that I had anything associated with this coronavirus, thankfully. And how are you guys doing? What's going on? I mean, arguably, you could have milked that for much. much more, you know, company-wide and probably at this point,

listener-wide sympathy where you just to say it's up in the air. You can't get tested for Corona. You might need six or seven weeks away from the grind to find out where your body is at. That crossed my mind actually yesterday, that this was the ideal Sessler scenario where I could have been like, eh, it's a little Corona eat. And then they'd be like, stay away, stay far away. And all of a sudden, Mark is out for. a year, three years, something like that.

Well, I've learned pretty quickly. I think this was, you know, a distant fantasy of mine, some sort of nation, earth-shaking, you know, issue. But now that it's here, and now that, for instance, my kids are suddenly home on a Friday versus being tucked away at their school, and our house is utter chaos, save for this hour that we're taping this. I'm not so sure that I'm excited about what's happening.

I am less excited. This is rough. it's not fun this is rough this one of my big takeaways um as this is now coming into focus

and schools are being closed across the country as as I already said offices are now sending everyone to work from home all businesses and movie theaters and malls and concerts and everything is all shutting down

everything is going into the home everything's funneling backmark to the home this coronavirus and you know God willing, it does not turn into something much worse. But if this is kind of where it ends up in this kind of general zone, it will still test marriages and family structure like nothing we've seen before.

It may test that bottle of Tito's over your right shoulder from the way that we're seeing it. That could be tested soon, I believe. That will be tested and defeated. Just don't test it as a hand sanitizer. Tito's released an official statement this week. it does not have enough alcohol to try to make some homemade hand sanitizer. Good to know. Yeah, very true.

Wes, how are you doing, by the way? Very sexy. Ricky, I know you do such a great job over on the social and VATN podcast on Instagram and around the NFL on Twitter. I'm sure some people will be able to see this Google Hangout. We have set up. Wes is in his commode with string lights behind him, some well-worn books, including an autobiography on Weave Eubank, the great Jets coach.

From Dr. Z. Paul Zimmerman. Oh, there it is, Dr. Z. And you have some plants hanging, a lot of good feng shui situation. This is good feng shui. This is, Lakeisha has put this room together. She calls it her green room. Got a little bohemian feel to it. It's good energy back here.

Very good energy. That's good. And Greg, you are, you're a guy who doesn't think anything really matters. matters or nothing's a big deal. Is this a big deal? I don't agree with the premise of your question. There's nothing more important than right now, Dan. Right here, right now, Jesus Jones? This is a time. I like having the kids. I don't know.

Take advantage of the positives of it, you know. I kind of love it, but I say that now while my children five and three, their daycare is yet to close. So I know what's coming here. All right. So let's get into it and just talk about where we're at. So obviously earlier in the week, the World Health Organization officially declared the coronavirus outbreak of pandemic. And I missed the Wednesday show with that illness, but not the corona. And it's crazy what happened just from when you guys.

guys finish your recording with Omar Ruiz? Good job, Omar. Thanks for helping out. To what happened a few hours later, which was kind of an unprecedented hour that I don't think any of us will forget if you were kind of plugged in the social media between Trump's speech, where he was very solemn and it became clear that our government was taking this seriously at this point and was finally aware of what we were up against. You have. had the NBA season shutting down on the spot after Jazz Center, Rudy Gobert, test positive for the coronavirus. You had Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson announce that they had tested positive. And if Tom Hanks can get it, any of us can get it.

What am I missing? I feel like there was one other thing in that kind of 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern window where everything kind of changed. And we talked about it on Monday how there was in the air of things were shifting, but really from Wednesday night to where we are now, the whole world is essentially shut down and we're going to get into the NFL implications of that all. But these last, you know, 72 hours have been wild. We've seen things like this in the past, you know, after 9-11, sports shut down for a little bit during World War II they shut down for a while. And of course, sports didn't get big until the middle of the 19th century when the industrial revolution, like the results of that happened, and there was leisure time for the masses. We were engaged as humans in survival for all those thousands of years, and now we're engaged in survival again. This just happens every time there's some kind of worldwide pandemic that shows us that sports are important for some reasons, but they're never as important as the human race surviving.

That's a good call, Wes. And, you know, like, the other weird thing about this, yes, 9-11, and from a surreal standpoint, this does bring back some memories of that week. It's not the same level in terms of shock and tragedy at this point, but still kind of like you wake up in the morning, like, oh, my God, what is going on right now? Disneyland is closed, you know, just like that type of like, what's happening in the world right now. But sports went away for that week, and then they came back. And I think the weird thing that's making this, there's a lot of. of reasons why this is a unique situation, but sports are just gone. Every sport is gone indefinitely. So NFL, obviously, we're in a situation where it's the offseason, but we know

all these different various league calendar events are getting stepped on potentially. The owners' meetings have been already canceled, and we're waiting to hear about the start of free agency and the league year, which is supposed to start next week. But MLB, NBA, NBA, major League Soccer, the NHL, PGA, PGA tour, golf, sorry Greg, the World Tennis Tour, all the European soccer leagues, the XFL, the March Madness Tournament, all that stuff gone. And that's what's kind of, that's what, to me, you know, as a sports junkie my whole life and somebody that, as cliche as it is, sports is like one of those centering things. It's like, well, I still got sports and you can kind of take your mind.

The fact that that's gone right now, that is, that mess. with my head a little bit, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. I think one thing, like, you know, with 9-11, it was stuff that you're used to seeing worldwide. You hear about, you know, a bombing and attack, and it just feels like a distant news report from somewhere that you'll never go. And Corona, personally, it didn't take it seriously on any level until suddenly it wipes out the NBA, and then the Tom Hanks thing happens. And I think that was obviously like a major turning point for everyone's awareness. And then there's all this, then it's a PR angle of like all these other leagues have to respond and kind and look like they're

as attentive to it and caring about the fans and the players. And there was this sort of watershed moment. And then suddenly, you know, kids are being sent home. And what happens if like a police force gets coronavirus and there's no police on the streets or firemen? It's like we, I think this is a little different than 9-11 because a couple weeks after 9-11, I wouldn't say order was restored. The world was changed forever, but it wasn't like the next huge thing was happening. We just don't really know the way forward with this, and I wasn't taking it seriously at all 10 days ago, and now it is thoroughly on the radar. Right.

We tape this on Friday, and the next time we tape, assuming we do tape on Monday, which we're scheduled to do, it's a lot more is going to happen, and it's probably very early. in the process. It's been said kind of no one cares about something like this happening, a pandemic, until you know someone that's been affected. Someone compared the HIV, you know, being spread and coming into public consciousness. This was never a thing. The government really didn't care about it until Rock Hudson got it in 1980.

It's been around for 20 years. And it's like this has been happening, the half of the largest country in the country. the world was essentially on a far more aggressive shutdown in a dystopian existence two months ago. And people always think, like, oh, the world's so connected with the internet and everything like that. And ultimately, like, this country wasn't too too into it. You know, it wasn't affecting us. And so it wasn't that big of an issue. And I think, I mean, from our perspective, it's like, what is going to keep changing? The NFL is in a lucky spot, I guess, that if they want to just push back the offseason, they can.

But no one really knows at this point how long all the other sports are going to be gone. I think the difference now, and Dan and Mark know this as Browns and Jets fans, for 98% of us every year, the season ends in disappointment and despair. But the key is there's always next year. And even in the 21st century,

there's next week or next month with news about your team, updates about your team. And the difference here is always next year or always next week, doesn't apply because things are kind of suspended and we have no idea what's going on. And I think, I used to think, why are sports important? And I would think of the lofty stuff, the art, where it's close to theater. Look what humans can do.

And I think when you have like anxiety issues or depression issues, it's because sort of the sharper the pain of life, maybe the more intense the desire is for like a temporary reprieve. Can I get a few minutes or a few hours where it all goes? goes away and you know the happiness those pure moments you get from sports are sort of like the respite's from despair or anxiety from the norm of life and you get these ascendant moments and there's a lot of anxiety out there right now and this is one of the things we do need sports for it raises the question and i'm sure the NFL has talked about this on a number of levels when free agency is next week at this point they have said there's no plans to move it

Mike Floreo, a pro football talk, is reporting that the league is discussing, pushing it, but they might not do it until Sunday, which would be the day before free agency basically starts, but a day after the CBA is voted on by the players, does the NFL, like, kind of weigh the possibility of like, this isn't the worst time for some mindless entertainment as a distraction in a world where ultimately they could run free agency probably if they want to or as Florio indicated based on his sources are they worried by the optics of it which is my least favorite word and feels like you're hiding behind something that they think it's a bad PR move essentially to do free agency I think it's a fair question to ask I don't really personally have like a strong answer on either

side of that but I think it'd be hard to come out the winner on that though because I don't think the NFL wants to pitch itself as mindless entertainment. No, that's not what I mean. I just mean, like, life is going on. Like, we are still living, we're going, we're eating, we're taking care of our family. This is just, like, do you do this thing as a small distraction? We're all watching, like, people are going to be watching Netflix like crazy. Essentially, that's all, like, NFL free agency is. It's just like a trivial little thing that is going on. And if they wanted to, if they think it's going to interrupt their own business in terms of like they can't do it the way they would want to do it. That's a

different question. But the PR angle of it all, I think there's a case to be made on both sides. Here's my take with that, which is I think they would survive the Twitter blowback of how could these guys be making money. That seems silly to me. And the optics, ever since we have that boss who didn't let us do the podcast all at the same time because they thought the optics were bad that we weren't all in the newsroom. I've hated the word optics. I think more from a practical standpoint, because as things dominoed starting, like I said, Wednesday around 9 p.m. Eastern when Trump got on and he made the travel ban announcements

and everyone was like, holy F. And then the Tom Hanks thing, Tom Hanks, man, all that. And then the dominoes, they all fell. Once that happened, the leagues, basically team by team very quickly shut down their operations. They pulled their scouts off the road. They closed the team offices. How does that impede what is a huge week of decisions, multi-million dollar decisions that teams need to make? If they are at all at a deficit in terms of where they are bandwidth-wise,

why wouldn't they just push it a week and see if things clear up enough where they could put people back in offices? That to me seems logical. but at the same time maybe they think that's not necessary and they still think they should keep to their schedule and they find that important for different reasons as well. It's all going to be interesting to track. You could look at one season that's not too long ago,

which was after the lockout when obviously free agency and the overall NFL calendar was totally jacked up and it created actually something pretty great fan-wise. I thought that free agency period was instructive in one sense for the league. and I just think that if you want to maximize, if the NFL wants to maximize the excitement of free agency, I just don't think that Monday is the day to do that.

Like that would be, to me, like moving at two weeks, you can recover from that schedule-wise, and you have a lot of people maybe in a better or a different headspace. I don't have an, I'm not offended by free agency occurring, but I just think you've got a lot of people that are thinking and focusing on the unknown and things much more important than where Corey Littleton winds up and what his signing bonus is. I mean, it just seems absurd to me.

There's another element here of what should have be overlooked is that the stock market is in crisis right now. The U.S. stocks had their worst day on Thursday since the 1987 Black Monday crash. We are, it's a bare market. People are in panic. I mean, the fact that the league is run by billionaires,

is that something, is that connect to this at all? Is this a situation where the owners are like, I think so. We got to get some things locked down in our own personal affairs and things of that nature before I turn my attention or put any focus on my little play thing, which is my team. There's so much unknown right now, and it's a little bit overwhelming when you start going through it all, and that's why the Tito's will be opened up shortly after the completion of today's show. Well, I think the timing is so weird that the players are voting for.

the CBA and maybe we'll get to some you know small level news but it's still happening like teams are putting the franchise tag on players on Friday so for now it's business as usual but the vote happened Saturday night then you have like a 24 hour period 36 really until Monday afternoon when tampering is supposed to begin so you would think Sunday would be the day but here's the NFL network you know the NFL owns it at this point has I think eight plus hours of live programming on Sunday to kind of cover the expected frenzy that was supposed to happen before. So it's all like in a very short timeline. And I'm with you, Dan, that there's no negative, there's the downside to pushing it all back.

And based on reading between the lines of what Florio wrote and it's tricky, we can't talk about, you know, the big NFL network reporters aren't reporting on this yet. But based on reading between the lines of what he wrote, if he's accurate, I am. I'm thinking it's going to get pushed. If that's just a total guess and our free agency. Other insiders are pushing back against that, but Florio continues to kind of pound that drum that it's going to happen. Well, the league is officially saying at this time there are no plans,

which I'm sure is accurate, but it seems like they're getting right. They're probably just doing legwork and talking to all these teams. And I don't know. Some teams are run differently than others, and it just seems like there might be a bit of a competitive, advantage or disadvantaged scenario to weigh also about how each of these franchises are operating because it's like it's almost like federal versus state law each of these teams have put forward similar solutions but they're not all the same i mean a lot of them are probably running their

front office the way that we are right now looking at each other on uh google hangouts or fill in the blank technological platform mark you're glowing by the way i am your skin looks great are you are you taking this time away from the office are you getting into of your little smoothie kicks? Any time away from the office is a melmishes into self-care of various forms. Do you have any? You did have a humble brag the other day.

You texted, you're like, oh, the gym today has like 100 people less than yesterday. Well, you know, I will also, if you want statistical correctness, that's the third time I've been to the gym in two years. So I'm not, it's not that much. I didn't even have anybody to spot me on the bench. Well, that's true. That individual was not there.

Ricky, what's going on with you? So West Hollywood, what a mecca it is for youth culture and, you know, partying and just to be alive and young, take us through where you're at, emotionally, physically, and otherwise. Well, yesterday, it was crazy. I went to Trader Joe's. Everything's off the shelves. I tweeted about it. Got it, like, empty. Some guy called me a B word for standing in line. Wait, why? I wanted to follow up with you on that. Why did he call you the B word for being in line? I, but that's what I don't know. He was like, he was like, hey, B, like, can you move up? And I was like, I'm in a line. Like, I can't move up.

Like, what, what are you talking about? Like, it was, like, really, he was, like, sweating and, like, seemed really anxious. Let me just say, I'd like to hear his side of the story. Yeah, there seems like there's other things happening here. Yeah, well, what was I? I was literally just standing there with all my, you know, end of the world items, like a normal person. The lines were out of control. It was pouring rain.

I can't take my dog out, you know. Things are tough over here. Well, there's some different experiences going on in L.A. Because I saw Charlie Yook posted a video, too, of a grocery store where shelves were empty. I went to the store last night probably about 830 or 9 o'clock because I try to go when nobody's there. And it was like a normal grocery shopping existence. The shelves were stocked. Everything was there.

There weren't that many people in line. I wouldn't name the store west. if ever you keep that. No, I'm keeping that to myself. Yeah. All right. I just keep reading so much stuff on Twitter and you have to be careful about what you're actually sharing

because you don't know what's real and what's not. That's true. I'm of two minds on this. There's something like everyone else, you kind of conflicted about what social media and Twitter has done to the world. But it is kind of cool that everyone is still connected even when you're shuttered behind the doors of your homes.

But it also does, like, create that ability to create panic. Like, I was listening. I never listened to Joe Rogan's podcast, but I think it was like Mike Giardti on Twitter, tweeted out something yesterday like that Giardy had a guy that was some type of expert in the medical field of disease control. So I clicked into it and I started listening to the podcast. And after like 15 minutes, I have to shut this off because I'm sure this brings a lot of clicks,

but there is some like doomsday talk going on. And I was talking to my wife last night, and we had a long talk because she had a lot of anxiety about where things are. Like we are in a situation, all of us actually on this podcast, where we are not close to our families from where we're from. So you're kind of a bit on an island, and it adds to some of the anxiety. So social media can kind of feed into that. So it's a good time to stay like my friend. I have a good friend that's basically offline. I mean, not totally, but he's not on social media.

I'm just saying it's a nice time to stay offline. How much you put up, Sessler? I'm very opposite to you guys. Whatever I read, whether it be on Reddit or Twitter or wherever, I just simply believe and allow it to form my thoughts and opinions. You know, like any city at Los Angeles has very strong, strong points and very weak, weak points. And I've sort of made my peace with the traffic and the shallowness of the people. But a new problem I've had developed with Los Angeles is sort of that anxiety where Dan says,

it's a city full of people who are away from their families for the most part. So they move out here and you don't get that normalizing influence that love the stasis of having a family involved. and it's a bunch of weirdos who have no one else in their lives so they're way more into themselves. That's all of us. I know it is. That's my mania with Los Angeles now.

To Wes's point, Los Angeles is a city as cliche as it is. It's true. Of dreamers, of people that came from all across the country to become successful, whether it's an entertainment or whatever, for us it was sports.

And when you are, when you classify as a dreamer, when this type of stuff hits, maybe not the classification of people that handle it the best. That is well said. I can report that the John Gonzalez, Colleen Wolf household is taking it very seriously. They are,

or Gonzo is definitely the couple that is, you know, loading up on everything at Vons and taking it away from you. Gonzo had a quiet birthday celebration, in which they really debated un-inviting everyone because they didn't want anyone to come over. But I have to say Colleen makes like an unbelievably good upside-down cake. She's a talented woman.

I mean, she can do it all. Colleen can cook. I mean, it was an incredible cake, professional grade, I would say, yes. What a catch. And she can fly a plane? She can do it all. It's pretty amazing. You know, Gonzo did well.

I think Gons has been told that many times in his life. I think he's sick of hearing it. Yeah, I would imagine he is, but probably at the end of the day, it all works out for him. I think Colleen did well, by the way. Absolutely. Anxed an outstanding gentleman in person. And yes, happy birthday to Mr. Gonzalez. I wish his birthday fell on a different time of the year, because we had all planned.

We had all, yeah, we had all planned. This is how quickly these things shifted, by the way, because I'll do two examples. One, again in the sports world, before the jazz game, who were they playing? It was the Jazz and the Mavericks. Before that game, right before Tipoff, got shut down. Mark Cuban, the owner of the Mavericks, was in the locker room having a meeting with players, and he was asked, what are the chances that the league suspends play? And he told his players, two hours before Tipoff, 10 to 15% chance.

cut to two hours later, they're walking back to the locker room and the NBA is shuttered completely. Okay, that's how quickly this thing is mutated. Now, you pull back to our personal experience. Last Friday night, we're getting loose. We are out in downtown Culver City, and I like to think of it now in retrospect, as it was our John Gonzalez birthday party.

We met up... And maybe the last time we'll ever all hang out together. Yeah, that's certainly... In play. We met up at an Irish pub. to start, and then we moved over to our old haunt Rockos. We went back to the famous adultery bar, Mark, and the alleyway behind Rockos to close up tonight. Well, I'm not sure that's how we want to advertise the night.

That does not, that's how we view the Lord. It's Mark's Adultery Bar, you know. There's a bar in downtown Culver City. If you live in this area, and if you know downtown Culver City, you might know what we're talking about. Mark and I in our younger years were real bar flies, you could call us, of this region. and this particular bar is tucked in in the alley.

It's very dark. And we just, as men who are faithful to our women, we still, we have takes. And one night we were in there, and we were like, this would be the place a guy who was looking at cheat on his wife would go. This is in an alley. It's dark.

It's tucked away. Not a lot of people know about it. So it became the adultery bar. Now, have we committed adultery? No, at that bar. No, not at all. But that is how it's not. Just at that bar.

Exactly. We are clean in that establishment. But anyway, so we were talking about Gonzo last Friday night. We had a whole plan set up that revolved around. Actually, it was going to be last night on John's actual birthday. We're going to have a huge gathering, and we were going to watch once upon a time in Hollywood. And that totally melted away to, I guess, just Mark and Greg and his upside-down cake and like two buddies from Philly, right? Yeah.

Although he did watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. and now is my only second time seeing it, and I know you guys are obsessed in it, and it really does reward a second viewing. It's delightful. There you go. A great hangout movie. Yes, it was awesome.

Take that, Jane Slater. Slater takes a shot. Wes, I heard your take on the women of NFL Network, and now it's almost like a take-back with a little Jane Slater. No, see, when you respect women to the extent that I do, you just have this easy rapport where you can joke around with him. When you respect women, and to the extent that I do, Chris Wessling.

All right, gang. Let us move into more traditional around the NFL podcast fair. Ricky, let's hit the news. Oh my God. Okay, it's happening. Everybody stay calm. What's the procedure, everyone?

What's a procedure? Stay fucking calm. Wait, blah, no, no, but everybody is to be calm down. All right, since we have started today's highly unique. and a very special edition of the around the NFL podcast presented by blah blah blah blah blah blah blah we have a number of transactions to get through so let's let's see what is going what rickie what do you like mean to say blah blah blah blah blah blah well we're contractually obligated to do it twice right in the front and the back yeah so if they want it a third time they got to pay peel out the guap wamp them Anyway, as my dad would say, nothing's on the arm here.

Danny's the barn, is everything on the arm? It's like, yeah, dad, yes. All right. All right, let's get into it. There are several cuts as teams adjust their rosters as they prepare. Yes, whether it's Monday is the legal start of the tampering period or it's pushed back a week. Teams are still getting, you know, like an Independence Day, not to bring up a disaster movie

in these times, but in the Independence Day, when the spaceships all start to get into sequence across the planet to prepare for their synchronized attack, that's what teams are doing right now. They're all getting ready for free agency and to make their attack on the market. So let's start with the Tennessee Titans who part ways with tight end Delaney Walker move that will save them over $6 million, almost $6.5 million against the cap. He is 35 years old now, and it seems like injuries have been the thing that have held him back. He's always been a guy with high upside in Tennessee, but very rarely did it play out that way. So he is now looking to catch on somewhere else.

The Titans say goodbye to Delaney Walker. Well, you mentioned off the air that you were surprised how old he was because... I was. He started his career and, you know, all through his rookie contract and even a year or two after that, he was a backup and special teamer rarely used behind Vernon Davis, and it wasn't really to his last couple of years in San Francisco and then Tennessee, where he broke out and he had the prime of his career in his 30s instead of his 20s. But when he came back from that, was it a compound fracture, the leg injury he came back

from last year, it was pretty obvious that he was a shadow of his former self. and they were a much better team when John Huss Smith was on the field. Well, he's one of the best free agent signings of the last 10 years. I think the Titans probably got more value out of him than just about anyone. And so they also cut this week, Dion Lewis and Cameron Wake. So that's three guys, Wake and Walker at the very end of their careers. We'll see if they get another job, maybe not. Dionne Lewis turned out to be more or less a disastrous signing,

but they can live without him after he arrived. in New England. But that frees up a lot of money. It just makes you realize, like, they need to free up a lot of money. They already had over $50 million in cap space. So it's not like they were close to the cap. But you need a lot if you're going to franchise tag Derek Henry and sign Ryan Tannahill or franchise tag Ryan Tannahill, which if they don't move the league year and they don't move the franchise tag deadline is kind of the first big quarterback domino to fall. We'll find out, I think they'll go with Derek Henry with the tag and just see what happens. with Tannhill. Well, there was a, you know, Ian Rappaport noted, reported yesterday that they are,

the Titans are focused after the Tannahill edition to hand big money to Henry, that was the quote, in big money. So, you know, I, I just love that they're keeping both of them or that they're going to try to because I don't like either one of those guys nearly as much anywhere outside of Tennessee. And let's give them a little love, and I'm doing this because I love my man, handsome Hank, Henry Hachin, Vice President of International for NFL media. Cameron Wake, if this is the end, he's 38 years old now. He just turned 38 earlier this year. And speaking of guys that got a late start in their career,

he didn't arrive on the scene with the Dolphins until he's 27 and put together one of the great runs as a outside linebacker, defensive end type, including a first team all pro bid at his age 30 season. So I wonder if this is the last time we'll see Cameron Wake, but quite a career after a guy who started, I believe, in the CFL, right? CFL, defensive player of the year, I think twice. He's got an outside shot at least to get a little Hall of Fame talk, especially when he gave him a little CFL pop.

Right, Warren Moon got credit for his CFL season, so Cam Wake should too. I feel like that's somebody the Jets should throw a lot of money at. It might happen. Cabin Wake, three years, $70 million, solved that problem on the edge since they haven't had a true edge pass rush option, Chris Wessling, since Blank in 2005. John Abraham! That is the Kansas City Chiefs, wide receivers, haven't had a touchdown in 2017 stat of Jet's history. You had Calvin Pace stumbled into a 10-sac season, and other than that, nothing.

Bunk. All right, in other news, Xavier Rhodes, his tenure ends with the Minnesota Vikings, the one time standout, defensive back, really fell off in the past season. He's 29 years old. The Vikings, they peel $8 million off their cap, $8.1 million, but they're still going to eat almost $5 million, which tells you that they were ready to move on from Rhodes. And it is a reminder. People talk a lot, a lot about why you don't want to do big business with running backs because the way that they age and they're easy to replace at a cheaper rate. Well, cornerbacks, it's a buyer beware situation.

As somebody speaking of the Jets who went round two with Dorel Revis as he reaches 30s, Tremay Johnson, as we just saw, things could fall off very quickly at that position. Especially if you're a big cornerback like Xavier Rhodes. It's easier, you know, when you're quick, Your drop-off isn't quite as sudden as when you're a big corner and you don't move as well. And last year, he got exposed. I remember seeing a stat from our research department when the playoffs started that he had basically the worst cornerback season in 10 years. As far as being beaten one-on-one, he was just getting beaten so often.

At this point, that's two down seasons in a row. You just wonder if he's going to be starting anywhere next year. I think Mike Zimmer was sort of overtly frustrated with him and also trying to verbally back him for such a long time. And a lot of the roads meltdowns seem to happen in nationally televised games too where you get this close-up of him walking across the field after getting toasted by somebody, not a great look. And the Vikings defense, and I think we mentioned this before on our show,

that it's had the same cast of leading characters for such a long time. I mean, it's, that's not the case going into next season. There's some big names out the door. Right. The question was just like, how much are they going to blow things up? And we're learning now with roads being gone that was expected. They also announced, or we found out on Friday, that Linvald Joseph who's been there and been great in the middle of their defensive line is gone. Everson Griffin for now is a free agent.

They essentially don't have anyone in their secondary. They have Harrison Smith and Mike Hughes, a cornerback who they drafted two years ago. Holton Hill has been had some suspension they have three other or four other uh significant free agents in their secondary so they're starting from scratch they have about as much to do this off season as any team in the league i just learned from my wife so i am in my wife i'm in the living room uh because of the wifi connection she's working in our office garage uh because she is now working room home as well and i just saw her her coming to the house with a horrified look on her face. I accidentally locked her out of the

house. I noticed she hadn't gotten up the remedy that. She had been trying to get in. I never even saw it. And then she had to find the spare key that's hidden on the grounds of Hansis Manor to get in. Like in one of those fake rocks that you can peel off the bottom of the rock? I have no further comment on that, but it's amazing how spot on you are, Mark. And so I just want to apologize to my wife for being a bad husband. I didn't mean that. Honey? Did you, though?

Like I said, this coronavirus is going to test relationships like nothing our country has ever seen. You better enjoy spending time with each other. Exactly. Sorry, dear. He broke out a deer. She just gave me a wave. She doesn't even like me referencing her on the program. I love Emily

Tell her I love her I love her Erica says she loves you But is it really true I believe the last time She appeared on our show Dan was actually the Debate Club episode

Many years ago When she came on to talk about Eric Barry's Fear of Horses That's right Emily was on the ATL debate club Talking about My wife has a

Horse riding background as a youngster and I thought she was quite insightful on that episode. And then she decisively made it clear she would never appear on the show ever again. And she stood by that declaration. All right, moving on.

Honey, make sure you put the key in the fake rock and return it to the yard, okay? She said, what is it wrong with you? All right, Courtney Glenn and the bangles have parted ways. Cincinnati was attempting to move to the veteran tackle via trade, didn't work out, despite being a 19-game starter. You know, he's a jag, as they say,

just another guy type dude, maybe somebody for some depth on the pre-agency market, but he's 30 years old. These guys will still have a market because they seem to kick around, Mark, these offensive linemen, as long as they're not total disasters, they're not old men, a guy like Glenn will probably get a little bit of a scratch. I think what's notable to me is how Glenn got there because they made the mistake of not keeping Andrew Whitworth

and they let him go. And then they made the mistake of drafting the wrong tackle sort of over and over. And you've got Glenn and he was really never at the top of his game with them. He was a patch, but surrounded by, you know, Jag would be a complimentary term to describe some of the other linemen they've had float through there in recent years. and it's affected Andy Dalton.

It will certainly affect any rookie quarterback. So I can't think of too many teams that have more work to do along the line. They've got a couple of young guys, but some that just have not panned out. Mark, can I just tell you that we might be days away from the ultimate scenario in terms of Cessler-Rage? Mitch Trevisky, Andy Dalton, same team.

I think it's actually effective to, if you have multiple enemies scattered around to get them into one room and then you just nuke the room. Again, Independence Day, Corollary. They chose specific markings across the realm and then shot the laser down to get rid

of enemies in a concentrated area. I know on this show I'm supposed to act as if Andy Dalton is some sort of special performer at the position. But if you have had the Mitch Trubisky problem that you've had and you go out and you tell this fan base it hasn't really had a great quarterback in their midst for so long.

We've solved it with Andy Dalton. I just think you're going to have, you know, Ryan Pace, you're going to have to work with that message from a PR angle. It's not going to win everyone over. That's what you say now. But if Dalton signs with the Bears, he's going to be one of your favorite quarterbacks in the league by August. Check with me on that one.

Oh, because he took over for Mitch Trubisney. Right. I just think you've got to slowly find yourself falling more and more in love with Andy Dalton. I would much prefer Andy Dalton, but I'm just saying that of all, all the options, of all the creative avenues you could have gone down to solve this age-old quarterback problem, Andy Dalton feels like you didn't exactly shoot for the stars. You didn't go

the distance there for your fans. But I'm sure he'll be wonderful. The Broncos placed the franchise tag on safety Justin Simmons. Let's get into some franchise tag talk. He is one of the best safeties in the league. The tag will make him about $13 million this year. But it seems like the Broncos, from what we're hearing, want to do long-term business with Simmons. So that could be something that still happens. Yeah, he was an all-pro last year. Their best defensive player, he's in the prime of his career. This was inevitable. Hunter Henry also gets the tag. The Chargers, this was an expected move. We're going to with the tag on the tight end, who has battled injuries throughout his young career.

But when he's on the field, Greg, this guy is one of the better tight ends of the league. And in this market and in a draft class where there isn't a ton of tight end talent from what we have been told, Hunter Henry was probably going to get a saucy offer in free agency so the chargers lock him up with the franchise tag. Yeah, he's someone who doesn't have better numbers, particularly than Austin Hooper. who will get the free agency, but to me is a much, much better player and I think would have gotten paid a ridiculous amount.

But Hooper now as the only really top shelf free agent, Eric Ebron, is probably number two at the position in terms of free agents. According to Tom Pelliserra is going to get like crazy money, like he, I think every free agent is going to get crazy money this year and just every position is going to get reset. But it wouldn't surprise me if he's, you know, if Austin Hooper is getting $15 million a year.

Because I think all these positions are going to have to reset to a new reality. You know, assuming, you know, COVID-19 doesn't change everything that the cap space is supposed to just explode in this new CBA. And every team has way too much cap space in my mind to begin with. It's like, I think we're going to go back. It's like a correction. You see this in sports. Every team saved up for a while. The NBA did that for a while.

It's like, oh, flexibility. You know, that's what we need. And then all of a sudden it went the other way and you saw a ton of terrible contracts again. And I feel like now it's time for the NFL to switch back to some terrible Dion Sanders getting $50 million from Dan Snyder type contracts. I was going to say, if you're going to give Austin Hooper's

very nice player, he's, you know, tight end. He has a Hall of Fame level quarterback playing with him in a dome for a team that can't stop anybody on defense. No big plays. Throwing the ball all time. If he's getting $15 million a year, I know they're different positions, but Jets, pony up and keep Robbie in your building. Oh, no.

Hello. Holy God. Well, it's pretty exciting to- acquire coronavirus live. Thank you. I've also never seen somebody panic at that level from sneezing. It wasn't Hachu, it was, oh, no. I think she knew.

You knew that Mike was right by your mouth, and there was no getting in off in time. I couldn't pull. I could see, like, the little green microbes, like, crawling around on your, like, hair and jacket and the cord of your mic. You almost concussed yourself. I just slammed my head on my table. Wait, what's that sound? It's men in yellow suits, radioactive, at your door to take you away to the CDC Center in Atlanta. I'm sweating.

I got my sweatshirt. It's a workout. Yeah, I'm anxious. Oh, sorry. Oh, what are you saying? No, Robbie Anderson, any of these guys, $15 million. We're giving Austin Hooper $15 million. A lot of, and you got, you have the best.

I'm with you on the Jets, man. Oh, come on, keep them in the building. I'm with you. I think, like, I, the Jets receiving corps goes down to bare bones. And I, one thing on the Chargers, if I'm a Chargers fan, and there's a lot to not like about what's happened with the team, you know, for a lot of reasons, but that they still scouted to re-sign and keep Austin Eckler and that they realize they're going to,

you can give us all the song and dance and dog and pony show about Tyrod Taylor. They're going to have a rookie starting week one. I would gamble at this point. And to not lose your tight end and have that position be vacant, because if you're a rookie quarterback, an awesome running back and a proven playmaking tight end,

that's the recipe right there. And they did the good job this off season. Great receivers to just put, you know, to clean things up a little. But they also cut Thomas Davis today. They cut Brandon Me, So this actually is the most active day of cuts. Teams are kind of operating as if free agency is going to happen.

I guess for now they have to. Thomas Davis, that might be the end of another great career, NFL man of the year. And I don't know if he gets another job, but had a great run. A guy that came back from, I believe, three ACL reconstruction surgeries. Yep. Not too many guys can say that. Here's one last franchise tag.

situation that's different. Matt, Judon, linebacker of the Ravens who had a big year for the AFC North Champions 28 years old. But there is much speculation that Baltimore is going to go a different route with Judon and perhaps tag then trade the standout defender. And you would imagine he would have a very healthy market for teams in the mix for a disruptive playmaker on the line.

Yeah, he's an interesting one because last year when the Ravens let Terrell Suggs go and they let Zadarious Smith sign with the Packers, the word around Baltimore was, hey, they need to save money so they can lock up Matthew Judon, who they like better than those guys. And now we're hearing they might trade him, which would leave them with what at pass rusher?

Nothing. But the trade would be because they want a long-term deal and they can't get one. and you get something for them for nothing. From another angle, like Super Bowl window still open, why would you dare go into the season without Matthew Judon unless you've drafted or acquired something in its wake? They're trusting the process.

The Ravens have always found a way to find these guys, and I guess they're thinking that they can do it again. Especially at that position, but this off-season specifically, that is their biggest need with Judon. They don't have pass rushers. they don't really have front seven talent like they would want, and he's their best player there.

So I actually am skeptical that they could get a D-Ford or Frank Clark like trade for Judon. So it might just end up that he returns there. Teams might see him as kind of a product of the system. Maybe not, but I also don't think they're going to want to open up like a massive need, which that would be. They're in the bottom half, according to Over the Cap. They're in the bottom half of the league in cap space,

but they're not in terrible shape. They have right now almost $38 million. Yeah, I guess that to me, it was a little bit surprising. I'm with you guys that with the window the way it is and he just had a breakout season. Maybe he's a guy you would keep. He would almost seem like an ideal guy to tag. Yeah, I agree.

I would think so too, but that's what they have them. Tag and keep, I mean. Anyway, any other news guys that you saw that got you all hot and bothered? Well, speaking of Austin Hooper, one of the spots he's connected to quite a bit is Green Bay, that the Packers will be chasing him, and they released Jimmy Graham. Oh, what a segue. Yeah, I mean, I thought that that was, that was only a matter of time. He just can't get it done anymore. You don't want, he's sort of like Jason Witten. He's in the progress stopping stage of his career. He's not helping you win games. Graham is, you're saying. They both

are. Oh, yeah, I don't, that is not something that excites me at all. Awesome. Hooper to Green Bay. If that's... Really, I think he'd be great. Oh, I meant Whitney and Graham are in the progress stopping that Hooper would be a good addition. Hooper is fine. Hooper is... I'm saying, yeah, I feel like you would be an upgrade over Graham, but that's really not saying much.

I don't know. I would say that with the Packers, if that was... If he was the big three-agency splash they make to upgrade the offense, I would not be thrilled, but maybe other people feel differently. Well, it's still have a lot of options. I mean, do we care about... gronk finding work of his own as a grappler. I do, yeah. Tell us more, Mark.

Well, I don't have, you know, I'm not a, we have people in the building that consider themselves to be sort of adult wrestling aficionados. I'm not one of those people, but he joined the- Adult wrestling officiators. Well, it's like, hey, I'm 38, and I still go to wrestling matches. That's cool. I mean, I don't. I don't have the funds or the interest for that.

How smug, both of you, the old men of the group? What? I loved to wrestle. I am not, I am not a professional wrestling fan. But I know, I know your laugh, Wes. That's the I agree laugh. I am not a professional wrestling fan actively. But one of my pet peeves is people who really, whatever it is,

look down upon people for what they're into and this idea that you could, as an example, Mark, not to attack you, but like as a guy that goes to, let's do it anyway. You're getting attacked. That goes to like, that goes to the Star Wars opening night. and is probably pumped about $20,000 into that franchise over your life. Like, how is that any less, you know,

immature as professional wrestling? But, yeah, but, Dan, you, you, in print and in verbally make fun of Star Wars and people that like Star Wars on Twitter all the time. I do not. I can find 30 tweets. And also, oh, that is absolutely, you, unless you get on Twitter now

and search and delete all your past little top takes on this, they are out there, it. And that's fine, but it's like, I'm not sitting around preoccupied that certain men or women in our building love wrestling. Good for them. There's a lot of worse things you could be into. It feels a tad juvenile, and it's also not a real sport, but those are separate bullet points. We're good. But anyways, Gronk is now a wrestler. So what do you want to, what do you want me to tell you? As far as my Star Wars digs, the farthest I go is occasionally dropping in like Star Trek instead of Star Wars just to get you guys fired.

And I, like, and I, what I get annoyed at is being, you know, like anyone chunked in with these, like, clowns dressing up as, like, you know, Mace window or something. I'm not doing that. I don't own any garb or walk around, like, with that. And I guess wrestling fans would probably would not want to be grouped in with, like, that famous viral clip guy who was like, Ricky, can you dig this up? It's real to me, damn it. Like, I just want to thank each and everyone, you know. for all you've done to your bodies. It's still real to me, damn it.

I mean... Thank you. Not all wrestling fans are like that. They just like the theater of it. They don't see it as a professional sport and sports entertainment. Very nuanced group, the very, very nuanced... Listen to you.

No, I'm like, I don't doubt that at all. And your little P-code in your living room. I don't doubt that. My house is crazy. This house was built in like 1908. There's no internal. heat, it's freezing in here. Hey, I love doing the podcast like this, by the way.

My laugh contains multitudes and is not so easily predictable. I know you, yes. I know you. I was laughing at Mark because I figured that somebody in our office who likes wrestling is going to hear that, and then he's going to have to hear from them. I mean, Adam Wright's. Adam Rank has many interests. I don't think of him as only a wrestling fan from what I know.

If you go back in the relatively short-lived lifespan of the end-around on NFL.com, which was a brief Hansus imprint that burned out after a beautiful life. I had a running joke where I predicted that Gromk would be in the WWF in the lead of almost every article I wrote when he would show up these different league events. And it's always been a matter of time, and now it's going to happen. And hopefully his back holds up. yeah but for the first time i don't think he's coming back to football i did i pounded the table on that all through last year i think he is enjoying life as is that walker ronk or was that a child my

daughter ellis just jumped in i'm with you gronk is like Ellis they want you to come back oh but she can't hear us right she said she would have to put the headphones on but she says no i have no control who's running that household anyway good for gron and and mark good for Star Wars. Can I tell you one thing with all due seriousness, Mark? I have opened up the door because it's so all-consuming Star Wars pop culture that my

children now are justifiably curious about it because they'll see certain kids at the daycare and they'll see the non-stop barrage and the various video platforms that they look at that I did open the door. I said,

do you want to watch Star Wars? Do you want to watch the movie? And so far, they just go, no, that's ballwing, but I am going to keep the window open. And I will watch it. I have not seen Star Wars since about 1985, but I am open to watching it again. Well, we will not spend more than six more seconds on this, but I would suggest that you only watch three of the nine. If I were introducing Star Wars to my two boys, which movie should have been? The 1977, a new hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, I would be fine if you didn't watch anything beyond that at all.

That's just my take. Other people would have me shot for saying that. I think that's where I'm at. What an olive branch to behold there. That was special. The world, I mean, the world's on fire. At this point, the idea of fighting and quibbling over something as silly as Star Wars or, you know, like if my kids, if I want to introduce them to Captain Spock,

I will. I mean, that's just the way it's going to be. What's going on in football? I think that's it. I think we covered everything pretty much. We covered a lot of news there. There's a lot more to come. XFL shutting down. Yeah, and you know what? Good speaking there. There's a nice segue, West, because Vince McMahon of the WWE, of course.

I got more segues than Job. Yeah, you do. Oh, very well done. Job, who hosts the Fox Lego show, which is staffed Bob Castrone of the Throwback Pod. Watch it. Popular show in our house, too. I thought you'd have been Job, the biblical figure, but I couldn't get it. George Oscar Blue. Vince McMahon and the XFL did shudder as well.

And this gives them an easy out, by the way, because they could say, well, we were really making progress. looking high. And there are people in the sports landscape, I think, for desert reasons that have been carrying the water for that league, trying to tell the public that it's been a success. I would imagine this would give Vince a nice little out if he decides that this isn't working where he could just point to Corona as the reason why it didn't work. And then we could get ready for another launch in about 24. Well, I have no idea what the finances are, whether they're willing to lose some money in the short term and how the different team operations go and everything.

But people go crazy. Oh, the ratings are dropping the ratings. Okay, that's all true. But it's still, even at its lowest, is outrating tons of sports that are on all the time. Like an MLS game that they put, like that is a thriving league right now 20 years in. And it still couldn't compete in ratings with the XFL.

Other, you know, smaller sports, tennis, whatever. it is even like some basketball game like NBA games like the ex-fell was getting ratings there was interest like there were a couple cities that embraced it pretty hard it was definitely had fans in the crowd St. Louis loved it Seattle loved it like I don't know like the finances of how much you have to do it but it's like that that what more do you want you have people in the crowd you got people watching all right I can see I'm being overly dismissed I'm not going to watch it in particular but I can't imagine they'd be that just they'd be disappointed about this the first five weeks so that's I feel like it paves the way for them to come back because the final note on it isn't, oh, the ratings sunk every week.

It was a plague essentially was dropped on the landscape and that ended the XFL and they have an opportunity to come back. I do think that it's important that some, a couple of these players get NFL tryouts and get maybe some NFL work to have it function as a developmental league on some level because otherwise, If it's like none of these players are leaving the XFL, I don't know. Then I start to unplug personally. They all are allowed to now. They're out of their contracts and they can sign with NFL teams. I'm sure some will. It's, I guess, a question whether they make any impact.

And I'll just throw this one last bit of data out there, Greg, to kind of counter to your point. A report two days ago from the sports business daily has that the XFL ratings have dropped 63% since week one. Yeah. I get it. I just mean, because I read pretty closely their last Sunday night. And it's like, yeah, it's on ESPN, and it's dropping precipitously. But it's like building on their MLS audience. And it's building on their other programming on Sunday. So as like a TV property, like it's building on some college basketball game from, you know, the big 10 on a Sunday. It's like they're putting, that's making TV. So why not? I see that. There's two ways to look at it. The other way is that they've lost half their audience since they started.

a month and a half ago, which is not great. Sure. I mean, I think that's the blueprint we'd like to follow on this show. It's never, yeah, it's never going to maintain that initial, uh, initial buzz. I don't know. All right. Keep carrying the water rose and small. I have no need for it.

I literally didn't watch a second, but, uh, it's like people, people were into it. You're just a football junkie. He's claiming he didn't watch one second of it, but I mean, uh, it's not a claim. It's the truth. All right. All right, here we go. No need for more XFL, please. So we will, this is the last time you'll hear from us this week.

Like we said, it's possible there's an announcement from the league on Sunday. Possible that they push back the league calendar a little bit here because of what's going on with the coronavirus. If that does happen, it will change our schedule next week. But as of right now, we've got a huge week coming up on the podcast. We have three video shows that will be available digitally Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, covering free agency. We'll also have multiple audio podcasts three, four, five. We don't know. We're going to hit it pretty hard if free agency does indeed happen.

So just be aware that you're going to have a ton of content from us coming if the league calendar holds. And if the league calendar does not hold and there is a postponement because of the coronavirus, we will also. be with you in a lesser form in terms of amount of shows. We'll do a couple shows, I'm sure, next week, but that will change how much you get from us. So just a heads up there. And, of course, everyone out there. We have listeners all over the world to, you know,

take care of yourselves and wash your hands. What do they say, 20 seconds? And you've got to get that whole hand. You've got to get the palms, the fingers, the other side, and the crevices in between your fingers. Finger nails are big. Big, fingernails. Get your fingernails.

And don't touch your face so much. It's unnecessary anyway. Get your hands out of your face. And be kind to each other. And one last thought, like I said. Old Surgeon General Hanses here. I like this. Listen.

See it ever advances. Mine's just as a fact. Remember when Greg told us on the show like a week and a half ago? The virus disappears in summer. We're all good. That was a joke. That was a joke. was a joke that was not a joke that was said in a very serious way hey um let's see we're not at the

summer yet uh be be kind to your loved ones within your home it's stressful for everyone well wishes to my brother tim who's going through uh some surgeries of his own non related to any viruses or anything but tim thinking about you love you and get well all right get well soon tim and be well everyone uh thank you for listening we were happy to do the show today looking for that normalcy that sports, the sports world can't give us right now. So thank you and everybody for your support and all that good stuff. Ricky, thank you for giving us the technology hookup and making this happen. There's literally no way we were doing the show today without your ability to be a youthful ambassador. And in addition to being a beautiful woman, intelligent and

savvy and technologically efficient at an extremely high level. This doesn't sound so Surgeon General at the moment. I think you've veered off of the path there. You're almost suspiciously educated on technology. Like you might be a double agent for the government. You've been tracking us for three years. Yeah, this is all going into my records. But thank you, Ricky. Especially the part in the beginning where you're like, Dan, Dan said, Erica, don't put any of this on Instagram. I've got all of that. I know you do. You could put us under. It's like Don Draper said Lucky Strike could turn out our lights. That's what Ricky could do for this podcast if you wanted to.

And Mark, enjoy the rest of your afternoon in the old shack and behind your house. This is my house. This is about as luxurious as it gets here. You got the facility in the back. You got your own little private domain back there. I am actually in the house across from Greg's Street, and I've been spying on him for three days. So be careful what you wish for. All right, everybody.

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