NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast V: Nick Foles to the Bears

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler recap all of the latest news around the league. As free agency frenzy begins to slow down, many teams are still making moves. We go to the kicker club and also hit some 8 o'clock delight.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wesleying, and Craig Rosethal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. Hey. How's everybody doing? Well, I think, I don't know. I feel like today I took a walk out onto the streets of our proud city, Los Angeles. And, you know, I think up till now is kind of like it's nice out.

There's no traffic. This might be actually like a good thing. But what I witnessed walking into a crowded sort of urban outer mall area attached to a shopping market, Ralph's, I got the first sense of what seemed to be unrest. I don't want to overplay it because it was just maybe my feelings too. But there were like 30 or 40 people, you know, sort of frustrated and waiting in line. to get into a grocery store where nothing that they want will be in there. And a lot of people just sort of milling about and hanging out and some people just lying on the ground.

And I thought, this doesn't feel as vibrant as it felt a few days ago to me. I'll tell you, my feeling is somewhat similar in the sense that when this thing went nuclear and it got very scary and became, you know, a thing that changed everyone's lives. Here in L.A. that coincided with a very rare bout of poor weather where it rained over the course of several days, which kind of added to the claustrophobic nature of it all that you were inside and you didn't really have the option to go outside. I have noticed the last couple days now when the sun's come back out that when you go outside and there's blue skies and there's no one else outside, it is kind of a Hitchcockian type move where some of those great Hitchcock movies like the birds, where part of what makes it scary is that you are outside and you're not in some haunted house running for your life. It even makes it more frightening. There is an unsettling vibe to the quiet nature of living in one of the most populated cities in the world, hustling and bustling Los Angeles, and just nothing going on. There is nothing going on. It does feel like we're

in a movie. That's not normally this quote. Yeah. We, we've been reading like apocalyptic pandemic books and movies and here we are the thing that's hit me lately is it's just the beginning i mean we're talking about it like this has been going on forever the week like this weekend like the world was much different over the weekend compared to now it's only wednesday so what's it going to be like in a month you know like that that is what i'm what i'm curious of Yeah, I have some theories. I'll probably keep it to myself as so as not to incite any kind of panic. Yes, that's part of our jobs. And we have heard from many, many listeners out there that are appreciative that we've been going every day during this free agency week. Of course, today. And we're happy to do it because quite frankly, it gives us something to do as well. So we're, although we are heroes, in this specific case, we don't need to be called heroes. Not that anybody called us heroes. They just appreciated what we're. did. I'm going to keep moving forward with my comments. Today was the beginning of the new league year. And now I'm not going to go, I'm not going to go down Mike Floreo Lane here and start

pounding the table and say, how could the league have done this? How could it have stayed on schedule and started free agency during this global pandemic? No, I don't believe in that. In fact, I still think on balance this has been great that we've had this distraction. Why not? This is not something that's going to come and go in a week or two anyway, so you might as well just go on with the show while you can. One thing that has now changed, and it became very clear today, was Monday and Tuesday, the legal tampering period, quote unquote, basically the same as past years. But today, right at 4 p.m. Eastern, when in the past you had all the signings becoming official, people giving interviews, press conferences getting set up, more deals flying through. That did not happen at all

In fact, I felt bad for Andrew Siciliano and Rich Eisen and I'm showing all the other networks. You're supposed to be, it's supposed to be, it's literally called free agent frenzy on NFL network. There was no frenzy today. As my three-year-old Harrison puts it when he sees or is told something he doesn't like now, Boeing. And that was my takeaway of today. Today was Boeing. Yeah, I think that's right, Dan. You lose the press conferences, which added some.

But I also think it's just kind of a continuation. of how these free agency weeks have gone. By Thursday, which would be, you know, tomorrow, it's been totally dead. And this year, especially, all the trades, the Brady News, everything happened Monday, Tuesday. I looked this morning, right when I woke up at our original top 101 list, Chris and I's. There was two players in the top 25 that were still available, Clownie and Chris Harris, who was number 25. So it was like there wasn't that much less, that much more to settle today. It's like almost every big name and Clowny's still out there.

And there's a couple good players. But we basically know 70% of like the big, big names. One note to add to that then. If your list only had that many of the top 25 players still hovering around, then the list that Dan and I created suspiciously and in theory before your list has the same. amount of players available, Dan. Is that correct? Same exact number. And in fact, the same order, because the order doesn't change,

I believe, into the mid-60s. So that was just another, another subtle power play by Greg, whose eyes always on the prize. And he didn't want to give our list the pop a dessert. It's a fair point. What team are you on with? What's that?

What team are you on with? I'm on around the NFL podcast. I tweeted, I tweeted, I tweeted Boeing, or I'm bored. today and Mike Garifolo replied made a point that I didn't really think of because obviously he's in the middle of it. He's like in Nam here on the air, you know, 12 straight hours on the phone that there's a little. That's like a soft guy's name, by the way. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's jungle fighting and you know that type of situation but uh he he's he's much busier than we are put it

that way right now and he pointed out that once you got past the brady and the quarterback stuff there's not a lot of skill players on the market and that's what kind of drives the excitement of this process remember robbie anderson who's fine as a deep threat wide receiver he was viewed as the top wide receiver on the open market he's still out there the running back market is very slow, which is not surprising after the events of the last couple of offseason. So there are still a lot of dominoes to fall, but maybe curb your enthusiasm, because it's never going to get as hot as it was Monday and certainly Tuesday with the Tom Brady News, which was all time. That's the first time I've heard Robbie Anderson's name all week. And I've

only heard Melvin Gordon's name once or twice. It doesn't seem like there are many teams in need of a running back and I don't know if anybody wants to pay him even close to what he thought he might get at this time last year. All right. You guys want to go through the news that we did get from the time we left you yesterday until right now. And perhaps, Ricky, as you're as you do, you kind of keep an eye on anything that happens in case there's some breaking news, okay? You got it, Dan. How are you? It looks like you're in a nice furnished room with a framed photo. of loved ones, and it just seems like a nice, a nice setup for you.

Yeah, I set up my whole home office. I got my monitor and my TV going. I got my two computers set up. I've been grinding over here, you guys. And let it be said, I believe that we have, but it bears repeating that Erica is doing an incredible job this week, keeping the show going without Ricky. We're not on the air right now.

So, bravo to you, young lady. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Let's get into it. Greg, Greg just barely gives it up. I was given the golf clap before anyone. Come on. All right. Let's get into it. There was some saucy quarterback news is the biggest story of the day. Nick Full, Super Bowl 52 MVP, the man that beat Tom Brady in that great shootout Eagles Patriots. Well, Brady's on a new team. And Nick for the third time in three years is also on a new team. The bears are acquiring foals in a trade with the Jaguars, Mike Garifolo reported. Jacksonville will receive a fourth round pick in exchange for foals.

One season of Jacksonville, ruined by the collarbone injury in week one, a jaguar organization that was burning alive. And then he comes back, doesn't play well. And then Gardner Minshu takes back over for the end of the season. So just a total loss. and for just one season, the Jaguars paid $30.5 million for Foles, who leads behind almost 19 million in dead money on the cap after the trade. So Jacksonville is just in a world to hurt right now. And they just do not expect them to be a contender in the immediate future. But on the bear side, we'll start with you on this West. Nick Foles comes to Chicago

for one reason and one reason only to be the guy that could push Mitch Trubisky, either push Trubisky to be a better player or push him right out the door, the former first round pick who's coming off a very disappointing season. Yeah, you give a coaching staff like this where Matt and Aggie, Bill Laser, and John DeCallipo all worked with pulls in the past. You give them an excuse to find a guy that they know and they're familiar with. Most coaching staff are going to do that. And then you throw in the coronavirus on top of it where people don't know if you're going

to have an offseason program. People don't know how much work you're going to be able to do before training camp. I think that ends up being a pretty big factor in a situation like this where their familiarity with Nick Fools scored pretty high. And Bill Laser also worked with Andy Dalton with the Bengals too. So maybe you figured they just liked Fultz better than Dalton. Well, Fulst has a higher upside. It's been weird for me today to see all the flaming of the bears

for this move and all the jokes of just like, okay, well, now they have two terrible quarterback. So that's really going to help. And maybe I overrated Nick Foles when Wes and I had him very high in our free agency, and I was on our rankings, and I was leading that drive. But he's not a bum. I mean, these two guys are even the next time Mitchell Trabisky has one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time, has an NFC championship game where he puts up 40 points, has a full regular season

where he has 27 touchdowns and two interceptions. Nick Fawes has done some things in the NFL, and to me, if it's an even if it's actually a fair fight, there's no question to me. Nick Foles has a higher ceiling and gives them a better chance to win and maybe gives them a little bit of juice. I'm with you on that. Like, I don't hate the signing at all. My one concern with Nick Foles is not, when he's available, he is an immediate upgrade for me over Mitch Trubisky and deserves another shot to be a starter. but his availability is suspect. It's been that way for a long time.

And, you know, but if you're, you know, the bears were looking into Cam Newton. There were reports of that. But Cam Newton is getting totally banged by our society right now, where if you're someone that is open to moving from team A to team B, and you're essentially someone who's been a figure nestled away in rehab, you can't take the physical, you can't show the team where you're at physically. you can't even go have that conversation. So to West's point, these teams with embedded coaching staffs that have been there for a while

that find players that they know they can plug right in, that come with, especially at the quarterback position with knowledge to teach other people and to be that presence, of course Nick Foles makes sense. I don't think you would ever have chosen to start over with a risky free agent trade candidate instead. So I've killed the bears over and over. At least they recognize that they need to upgrade the position and they've done something about it. So box checked, I hope that Foles can stay healthy.

To be clear, Mark, you said that society has banged Cam Newton. I feel like to be more clear, it's been this pox that has fallen upon our society and changed society the way we operate as human beings. You know, it's the pandemic that's banged Cam Newton. Yeah, that's a good clarification for me to blame. society in an isolated fashion is not fair. And the Jaguars are still paying for their original Blake Bortles sin. They were so desperate last year to find somebody to replace Bortals that they overpay for fools.

And now, like you said, $19 million in dead money because they kept the fulls charade going on for so long. They have $33 million total in dead money this year. So that's like money they could be spending on making the team around Gardner, Minchew better, including the defense. I mean, you're going to have to score a lot of points to keep that defense. And that said, it's well known if you're a listener to this show that certain people on our show love Gardner Meenchu and certain people don't, namely me. It's a good setup for him in the sense that I doubt where the Jaguars are. It feels like they are in more

now of a rebuilding period. I would doubt that they would bring it a veteran and Andy Dalton type guy when they're so far away from contention at this stage. he might get in trouble because they're not going to have a great supporting cast around him necessarily. But I would also think that Minchu is going to get a real shot now to be their starter, at least entering the season and see how it goes from there. Well, I mean, this spoke louder than anything they could have done, which was to clear up this two-headed quarterback situation ASAP. But I don't like Minchu's chances to win games with the way this team is constructed. They're in Cap Hell. They are allowing every defensive

player worth anything at all to escape and be traded or escape and leave the team. And unless you're an offense that's going to put up, I just, this defense was terrible last year with half those guys on the roster. I don't, I don't know how he's going to survive or to, to add on to what he did last year. It feels like a regression season for the quarterback position. And I'm forever grateful for what Nick Foles did to Ricky and Greg's Patriots a couple years back. But I would have thought, Cam Newton, to me, has more sex appeal as a guy to bring in.

And he could be a guy that not only pushes Mitch Trubisky, but can kind of get his career back on track. And all of a sudden, they have a standout quarterback out of nowhere. It might have been a good, a good gamble for that organization, which kind of needs to hit on something big. But Foles is the safer choice at this stage. But not by that much. Like Mark said, this guy can't stay on the field himself but cam newton and you're right he is an attractive uh attractive man um very hot this bears spot being filled and then it's funny hearing a man talk about good looking funny why why remember his comment his comment it's funny to hear a woman talk about oh oh nice i like that if he goes to new england i'm going to be so mad don't be mad yeah this is where i was

going with this erika um i don't know if he i don't know if he i don't know if he's he would go to New England, but the combination of this news today with Foles, and then Ian Rappaport reporting very strongly that the chargers after losing out on Brady are going forward with Tyrod Taylor and presumably a rookie. They have a top six pick and they can maybe move up and get Tunga Vialoa or they could take Justin Herbert, and that's kind of what I'm expecting the charges to do. It leaves the Patriots in a situation where if they want to go bargain bin hunting. They've got options. I mean, there's James, there's Cam Newton, and there's Andy Dalton. And it feels like a very Bill Belichick move to see who sits out there the longest and is

just the total deepest that they think they could build an offense around. And to me, Cam Newton would be the guy that I think would get Josh McDaniels excited. All right. Let us now move on and talk about Other news, you know, let's check in on the Judevian Clowny because he is the highest remaining player on the top 101, correct? Yes. And, you know, some people surprised that he is not connected to a team and you haven't heard a lot. Well, Mike Garifolo noted Wednesday that Clowny has not found the market he expected.

The Seahawks offer that he has in hand could be the best that he'll get Garifolo added. So the past, the past rusher, we've talked about this forever on this show, or at least it feels like forever, that his production has never matched his stats or his production has never been in jive with a guy that should be paid like a highest paid defender in the league. But then all the big D word gets thrown around, not the one you're thinking of disruptive. He's very disruptive. And yet it seems like teams are shying away from an injured guy, a guy that has injuries that has. always produced statistically. It's all relative, though. I mean, Dante Fowler, for instance,

we'll talk about him, but he got $16 million a year. So I'm assuming Jedavian Clowny is going to get significantly more than that. And maybe he was thinking, like I was thinking, that he might get an insane amount. And he's clearly not getting that offer or else we would be hearing more. Seattle reportedly made a very aggressive offer, and that might end up being his best bet is to just return to the Seahawks. He won't be alone in Seattle if he does return.

Bruce Irvin is back with the Seahawks. According to Rapsheet, the 32-year-old defensive end has agreed to terms of the Seattle Seahawks, reuniting him with Pete Carroll. They took him 15th overall in 2012. If you remember back then, that was seen as a surprise. Irvin had dealt with some off-the-field issues, as I recall. But he's always been a very steady contributor. He went to the Panthers, had a nice season.

But now he's back with Seattle. So if they can get, if they do get Clowny back, you got Irvin in the building, they could really maybe make some gains getting to the quarterback, which was a problem last year. I like Seattle's like ability. One thing about them, because when players leave a team,

it's almost like you're never allowed to have that player come back into the fold. Like you would never bring some of these guys back. Seattle is like, this is like the fifth or sixth guy that after a stop somewhere else, they're like, this guy fits our system. He was in a system in Atlanta that's similar to ours, and we'll have him right back, no hard feelings. Like, it kind of tells you that, you know, unlike some of these teams we talk about, like the Texans and others, that they don't burn the bridge. They keep the relationship alive, and you might need a guy later, and Irvin is the perfect fit right now. At this point, Irvin, you know, it's fun to get him back together.

He's with KJ. Wright. It's like good memories. He's kind of a bit player. But their biggest move so far has been bringing Geron Reed back. and that was late last night, that was to a two-year, $23 million contract, which is pretty good money. He's been an up-and-down player. Seahawks fans were thinking they were going to go wild.

I think they're a little disappointed that that's like the highlight of their first couple of their first couple of days, but it's like calm down. They've signed a couple of offensive linemen, too, Brandon Schell and B.J. Finney, and it looks like they expect both of them to start. Those aren't big names, and they were not on our top 100 list, but there they are, starting for the Seahawks. in other news a trade we love trades the Denver Broncos are acquiring Titans defensive lineman Jarrell Casey in exchange for a seventh round pick rap sheet reports nine news Denver

Mikelis had that first Denver had a hole on their defensive line with several guys hitting free agency so they add a five time pro bowler west did this surprise you that Casey came free for a bottom of the shelf draft pick it did surprise me? It did surprise me. me, but those things always surprised me unless I read a Greg article saying this guy's making too much money and needs to be cut and found jobless. Those are usually how Greg's articles go when he does this cut guy. Is this a, I cannot tell. That was either a really nice compliment or a withering put-down. I never really know when guys are going to lose their job until Greg covers it. And I, Jarrell Casey was not on my radar. I feel like Jonathan Simmons,

played so well last year that I guess they feel like he can slide into that role and they can maybe get more pass rush and sacrifice a little run defense and then use some of that money for guys like Derek Henry. I find it unjust that Jarrell Casey, who's been consistently awesome and consistently outside of like, you know, PFF football heads and certain types, mostly ignored by the casual fan and as no one even knows who he is for the most part, the minute that the Titans get, you know, kind of sexy and are going to have a bunch of primetime games. Bang, he's sent off the team.

God forbid, Jarrell Casey ever get the attention he deserves for having been consistently awesome. I was stunned by this trade. I guess he had a shoulder problem last year. He has been around a while, but he's been durable. He's been really productive. I know he's been one of your favorite players, West. It seems like a steal.

And they're trying to cut some salary cap. Maybe it's a Derek Henry move. But it was on the same day that they signed. Vic Beasley to a $10 million contract. Vic Beasley, who going into this free agency period was like the guy I would have wanted my team to sign the lease because he just knew someone who was going to pay Vic Beasley hoping he could have the one good season that the Falcons basically were hoping they would get out of them.

And they never did. So I know they played different positions, but I'm a little mystified. The Titans defense always seems like this formless, you know, I know that they're a little more fun on offense, but the defense still has that old. nickname that Pan used to give them. So let's talk Broncos then. We haven't talked about their side of the trade. They had J. Ralele Casey. They are picking up A.J. Boyer. They kept Justin Simmons. And they get Bradley Chubb back next year. This defense was playing really well at the end of last year. I like what the Broncos are doing on that side of the ball. If I was Tony Realli, you know, around the horn,

I'd be giving you some points right now, Wes. I like that one. That's what I feel like. I feel like we're on around the horn with these little... How many points do I have, Greg? I'd be holding up a sign, thanking you... How many points do I have, Greg? I feel like you would be judging me negatively. You've got a lot of points. If we had started the points before the show when you were breaking out a conspiracy theory about an NFL network mishap that I won't get into, that would have been negative points, but you're doing great once the show started. Yeah, I save the negative point conversations for off the air. And before we get overleaks,

excited about the Broncos West. You know, Joe Flacco is about to be cut or it has been done. They have Drew Locke and then two jags, subjags behind him. It feels like quite a gamble at the quarterback position right now. I specifically mentioned the defensive side of the ball because although I like the Graham Glasgow signing, the point you mentioned are legit. We don't know about their quarterback. They only really have one proven wide receiver. I don't know.

They got a lot of question marks on that side of the ball. Well, here's the thing. Cam and James and Dalton have to go somewhere. They're not going to not be in the NFL next year. And so, you know, now that I've been, like, I don't know, maybe Denver is a team, even though they're in, they say they're in on Drew Locke, it's like at a certain point, if these three guys are making, you know, $6, $7 million like a backups type money,

it's like they'd be crazy not to try one of those guys. Elway already swung and missed at one washed up veteran and Joe Flacko. Maybe Cam is a guy that he would wait on and then bring in again. He seems like a guy that would take a big swing there. He is the guy that got Peyton Manning once upon a time when he had injury issues. I mean, John Elway watched Cam Newton basically take the Super Bowl off. I don't know if that's the greatest selling point for a prospective employer. I mean, he took one playoff.

I didn't see him. I didn't see a whole lot happening outside of that. one play but I'll take your word for it. I just gave marks some points. I did. It's so funny, I thought of that again today. And I know you Panthers fans as at the end of the Cam Newton era, so many of you are still thinking about that play. Super Bowl 50, about two or three minutes of the play, ball on the ground in a one score game. And Cam watched. Is this you rubbing salt in the I'm just saying I think about it sometimes. If I was a Panthers fan, I'd probably think about it all the time.

Gotcha. In other news, speaking of the NFC South, the Falcons make an addition to their defense. Their pass rush gets a boost. Tom Pelliserro and Rap Sheet report that they are expected to sign Dante Fowler to a three-year deal. This guy is getting some frequent flyer miles in his career. The Falcons could not get to the quarterback last year. And Fowler's been a little up and down in his career. but he had a nice run with the Rams and now Dan Quinn's defense is going to need him to be a

consistent guy off the edge. Mark, do you think he could be that? Well, I think, you know, we hit on Vic Beasley. And at this point, you need an upgrade. And if he plays the way he did with the Rams, that is a distinctive upgrade. Dan Quinn coached him at Florida. So it's another one of these relationship scenarios. He's young. You're in theory getting him at a time where he could round into someone that does what he did last year, which was 11.5 sacks, which was a personal best for him, year after year. I mean, the Falcons to me, I need to see their defense before I trust it because it just seems like it's not really clicked in a while at this point. How is Dante Fowler only 25 years old? What is going

on here? I'm with you. He's one of these guys. I almost 40. And this guy has been, he was essentially 23 for seven straight years. Well, he was always distinctively young. than you, but fair enough. Yeah, he entered the league young. He got this much money because the Rams reportedly really wanted to keep them, and they went pretty high to keep them. So that's a good sign that a team that had them for a year and a half wanted to pay him big money.

And if I'm a Rams fan, and I'm looking at this defense, and you think of what they have lost so far, they've lost Michael Brockers, they've lost Dante Fowler, they've lost Corey Littleton. They got rid of Nicole Roby Coleman, who was a pretty good player, and Eric Weddell retired. And Wade Phillips has gone. You have a first-time coordinator in Brandon Staley. That is a lot of uncertainty. Yeah, but you're leaving out one thing, Greg. Leonard Floyd's in the building. That's true. He is being signed by the Rams. Pelliserro and Garifolo reported. So they are essentially replacing Fowler with Floyd, who was released by the Bears on Tuesday, former first round pick so they're hoping that he will somehow find the spark so get excited

LA it's not every day you get the sarcastic retort um wouldn't that that was working on a lot of levels with a segue how many points do i get for it one and a half you're the host you know one thing on um oh what on the falcons defense this is like a conga line since we started the podcast certain guys come in, then they come back, Adrian Claiborne's in, Jack Crawford, Vic Beasley, no, it's Dante Fowler. The name's changed. The defense still finishes like 17th, and you can run on them all day. You and Mark did have that great Super Bowl experience where he was the coordinator of the Seahawks and you guys just fell in love with Dan Quinn. Oh, my God. What a love affair. What a love affair. There was a part two to that,

which I believe I've mentioned once before where it was an owner's meeting scenario where there is not a lot of Atlanta Falcons beatwriters hovering around, but it was one of these breakfast table scenarios where it was Dan Quinn sitting there alone and me sitting with him, and De Orlando Ledbetter, someone who I have a lot of respect for. And New Orlando showed up with a gigantic plate of like eggs, bacon, and toast. And I thought, listen, this is the celebrated Falcons Beat Rider. I'm going to allow him to unfurl three or four straight questions at Quinn before I drop in, you know, what I need to go with. DeLid. D lead just sat there and continued to eat.

Like I was like at some point you've got a, this is a working function. I'm sure he got to his questions down the road, but I got shifted into small talk with Dan Quinn and I'm asking him like nine or ten questions about the Falcons when I at best have one, maybe one. So, you know, part two. Mark just advanced to the finals. Anytime you have a, any time you have like a D lead eating story in there,

automatic. I love that guy. But, you know, since we are adjacent to the, you know, reporting world at that level, you start to pick up on some things. And I think D-led gobbling down the breakfast before getting to work is to me the equivalent of Larry Fitz Sr. at the Super Bowl's taking out the folding chair and just putting it smack dab in the center of the clubhouse and just letting the chaos unfurl around him before he gets in gets his quotes. A perfect parallel. And I, and I, I'm only a imagining that with his with his experience that d orlando had a longer slow play um plan at work

there that i was the you know i was the idiot that's trying to jump in and do my thing i'm sure he got something great out of that meeting after i departed i don't doubt it's an ancient parable it's the turtle and the hair you know all right moving on speaking of the nfc south and uh big name players gerald mccoy he is leaving that division and heading to big d the cowboys He's not the big D. You're thinking of. The Cowboys agree to terms with McCoy on a three-year deal. Rap sheet reported ESPN first had it. Garifolo says the deal has a base value of over 18 million. He could get to 20 million with some incentives hit. He's 32 years old. Went to Carolina for one season, played 16 games. West, not the same guy that he was during his heyday in Tampa.

but somebody that could still do some damage. And I would see this as a positive signing for a Cowboys defense that kind of needs some reinforcements. Yeah, Greg talked about the Rams losing so many guys. The Cowboys have lost as many snaps as anybody, I think, in this free agency period with Robert Quinn, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, takeaway Jason White, and Randall Cobb. And then Malik Collins, who Gerald McCoy is going to replace. And I'd say McCoy, even at age 32 or whatever.

where he is now, is a better pass rushing presence. So he's a more disruptive guy on passing downs and it's now a passing league. That was probably a Cowboys priority. I would have been pretty worried going into free agency. But I think the first few days have gone about as good as you could have hoped, considering how much you had to pay, Dak, that you got Amari Cooper back. They re-signed Anthony Brown, Blake Jarwin's back in the building. That's not a big deal.

Sean Lee, whatever. The way you said it sounds like a pretty big deal. The important thing here is Kai's Kai. Kai was re-signed as like a day one free agency. Oh, yeah. Greg, can I just, with all due respect, that was not your news to break. I mean, I'm setting it up for you. Because you know, the one place that does not close during the coronavirus pandemic is the kicker club.

the Dallas Cowboys have signed Kai Forbath he stays in the building after being just an absolute standout down the stretch for the Cowboys nearly kicked him in the playoffs let's face it he went a perfect 10 for 10 on field goals down the stretch so Kai who absolutely was nearly drummed out of the league just because that's some bad word of mouth is how I see it you were spreading it didn't that word of mouth didn't start with me but I was told some. negative things, famously, at a area hospital here in Los Angeles before the birth of my first son, that, you know, Kai's Kai's going to do what Kai's going to do, which is the universal indicator for, you know, maybe not the best dude. And now Kai is back on his feet. And he never deserved to be off his feet because the boy can kick. Yeah, I think that, you know, Dan, if anything, you deserve at least have the credit for the career revival that he's experienced over the last

six, seven months. So I would say I put him more, this is what I'll take credit for, Mark. Sure, please do I will take credit for enhancing his his Twitter viability, his profile, because there are more hashtags dedicated to Kai

on the internet now that ever existed before. Let's not, don't stop there. Like, the original renters came out of the bubonic blade. It was a side effect of it. And here we are in coronavirus time. You have given a renaissance to Kai Forbath's career and you should take credit for. Maybe I will take a lap in the kicker club, which again is open for business. We are one of those sects that do not believe in the ability to pass germs. So the place is packed.

So if you want to come on down to the kicker club, we have DJ Pauli D spinning tonight. And everyone, because on a little coronavirus promotion to get people in the building. Everybody gets to go behind the velvet rope and shake hands. So come on down to the kicker club. Somehow I'm good. I don't know. I don't feel like the tractor being pulling me over to that event tonight, but perhaps down the road.

Okay. Okay. Fair enough. In other news, the chargers are expected to land a premium name on the secondary market. cornerback Chris Harris is signing in LA rap sheet reported. The deal is worth two years and 20 million. Harris then confirmed to ESPN that he's going to the Chargers. A nice pickup, nine years in the league. This will be his 10th season. We talked about it a little bit when we

learned that he wouldn't be going back to Denver. Greg, that Harris maybe not the same player used to be, but maybe stick him in the slot and he could do some good work for the Chargers. He looked awesome last year, and the combination of him, Casey Hayward and Desmond King is about as good as it gets at cornerback. I'm going to fall into the same trap. I kind of like the signings. They've had Bulaga at right tackle. They bring in Linval-Joseph, not so sure about that. But either way, it's like the Chargers roster outside of quarterback, which seems like a significant position, looks pretty good again. Let's get back on the Chargers bandwagon. What a team they're building in every room except a quarterback room.

Can we send Andy Dalton there for a fourth round pick and be done with it? How about that? I mean, they are going to draft someone. I don't know if they love Justin Herbert and so they feel fine that they're, if he's there at six or if they are going to try to trade up. Maybe they'll be the team that takes to a, who knows. It's funny because in Jeremiah's pre-free agency mock draft, he had two teams the Colts and Bucks back to back taking Love and Herbert and I just think the

Chargers are when you're looking at potential free agents and you're making it clear that you're not chasing after a veteran they are locked and loaded to go get a rookie and restart that position from scratch and if they get the right one to Greg's point like the team around them because the offensive line has been improved at least on paper right now too is this is a great situation for a rookie compared to some teams you could land with. The more I think about it, they really should be a team that should be thinking, and maybe they are, to give it all up to get to a, you know, like that's a guy you can open your stadium with, and they have such a good rest of the team.

They've been so patient, drafted pretty well. Like, I could see them giving up a huge raft of draft picks to go get to, to open the stadium with him. That'd be fun. Do it. that makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. Points for Greg. If you, everybody was like,

uh, Tom Brady, he opened the stadium with Tom Brady. Tom Brady's going to be 43 in week one. If there's a week one, you go get a young quarterback then could put some meat in the seats and then he's a guy that could be there for 15 years. Let's fly. That is a gross term. It might be 44 in week one.

Oh, my God. He could be 49. Um, all right. Let's hit up a little, uh, 8 o'clock delight, Ricky. Malcolm Jenkins heading back to the. Buy you. Four-year, $32 million deal with 16-and-quartered guaranteed to go back to the Saints, leaving the Eagles. Does he got anything left, Greg? Yeah, he was playing well last year, replaces Bonne Bell, Saints, fans love him. Sean Peyton, love them. Saints. Yes. Andrew Whitworth is not going anywhere. The Rams are in a time of

transition, but they decide that they want to keep Jared Goss blindside protector. Three-year deal for Whitworth. If he plays out the contract, West, he's going to be in his 40s, like you. Yeah, that means he should probably wake up with a different body part hurting every day and may only last about four games into the season. Don't get too close to 40. Thomas Davis is reuniting with Ron Rivera on the Redskins. Can't kill Thomas Davis, Mark Sessler.

I also wonder if the Redskins might look at Eric Reed, who the Panthers just released as well, because Rivera feels like the kind of coach that despite selling you fresh ideas is going to bring in every aging player he can simply because he has them in his cell phone. And I like Rivera. He's fine, but it just seems like you're going to get a lot of ex-cancer. Hey, two points for you, buddy.

And also, maybe Cam Newton goes to Washington. Stranger Things have happened. Patriots defensive back to Ron Harmon is heading to Detroit. So, Greg, the Patriots Exodus continues. Yeah, congratulations to the Lions. for taking all of the players the Patriots didn't want. You know, Jamie Collins, Danny Shelton, Duran Harmon. This is the way you build a championship.

Is there anybody left on the Patriots roster? Besides Ryan Izzo. It's all spit-em, baby. It's just stood them, course. Greg, remember when your biggest concern about the Patriots is why there weren't more coaches on their staff? Now you have real concerns. Oh, yeah, it's a huge concern that the Lions are overpaying, like,

role players for the Patriots. I mean, one thing I know is that when Jamie Collins leaves New England and goes to a different team, you're going to get the best version of Jamie Collins, hands down. The Raiders and veteran cornerback, Eli Apple, agree to a deal, a former 10th overall pick. He's bounced around a little bit most recently with the Saints. Now he's in Vegas. It's one of those guys you want as your third corner,

because if he's your second corner, they're picking on him all the time. And with the Raiders, at this point, he might be their first corner because they tried for Chris Harris and offered three years. And Harris decided to go two years. And finally, Wes, it looks like the softball team is in dire straits. We're giving away final years of our careers because Corona might take us out. Yeah, I talked to Keisha about that, that I thought I might not have to make the retirement decision after all because Corona is making it for me. But, yeah, after we talked, there were several days. where I woke up and my right shoulder was hurting so bad that I could barely move that

day. So I didn't think there was any chance I was playing softball. And that is eight o'clock to light. All right. Boys, girl. Any, any final thoughts before we sign off on Wednesday's edition? What do we look? What is a domino we're waiting now? Like, what do we want to learn? We want to learn where clownies going. We want to see where James and Dalton and Cam end up. What What else is out there that kind of interests you? I want to know where Robbie Anderson goes. I hope the Jets bring him back. What about you guys?

I'd say back to Melvin Gordon. I brought him up earlier in the show. A team like the Falcons who released Devante Freeman could use him. Somebody, one of you guys brought up the bills the other day. I still like that to pair him with Devon Singletary. But he might be your new Falcons running back. I have a feeling. I mean, the Patriots quarterback situation,

I know we're joking about how they're diminished, but I'm still very intrigued to see what Bill Belichick is going to do. And there's still some pretty good players out there, and it seems like they're going to jump in to this part of Free Agency. Emmanuel Sanders is a guy I'm kind of keeping an eye on. Cowboys reported. How about you, Mark? I would be interested with some of these tagged players

that don't seem like necessary long-term fits for their teams. I think I'm a guy like Anthony Harris on the Vikings, where there are whispers that teams, the Browns are won, safety, needy teams might be able to go and trade with the Vikings for some of these guys. I think that's sort of, and I think we hit on this maybe, but this new wave of like franchise these guys and then trade them versus letting them walk is a savvy move at this point. And I could see two or three winding up elsewhere than where they are today.

More points for Sessler here. I think Ngakwe is going to get traded. That's a pretty big name. out there, and then Matthew Judon might get traded. So Sessler, I think, won that. I think he won. Wow. Who's giving out the points?

I thought the host was. I mean, it's a smart move just to appease me, and then in a separate text chat, you know, tell yourselves that I absolutely did not win. What are they doing that show? What are we doing that show? You mute somebody when they get annoying to you? Is that what happens?

Yeah. Ricky, can you mute Greg for 10 seconds? I think so, maybe. Oh, it was ending. Okay, he's been needed. He's trying to talk. It doesn't seem fair. All right, bring him back.

Oh, hey. He's back. He's back. And one last, one last note I have about Free Agency Week is, you know, nine-minute segment with Dick Vitale today on NFL Network, the retired NCAA coach commentator guy. Heroes can't get on any of this programming. How much, I mean, you got hours of space to fill. We are the most popular NFL podcast in the goddamn world and we can't get on.

And Vital's on for nine minutes. I'm giving myself some points. Get us on that show. I don't know. I'm not even saying we, you know, maybe we don't have the internet capability to do it. But Vital for nine minutes. How was he? How was he?

It was on in the background. Did he play the character? He played. I think he's a friend or a golf buddy of Brady. So it was basically getting his reaction to the Tom Brady news. but he played it as like the same character he's like mr tampa oh that's right he's a buck season ticket holder that was the hook that was the hook so he c s the key guy i think what a hook it is so we will be oh and one last thing what's going on with the beards i know rickie try to take the air

out of it but has everybody grown him grown him yeah gray i'm i'm supposed to do NFL now tomorrow I don't know. I got to trim this thing at some point, but I'm not there yet. What do you mean? You were growing that thing in hardcore during the season. That's true, but there's like a, you know, there's going to be a pretty ugly in between real soon. It's in that middle period where you look like you've done something wrong to a child potentially. So, yeah, we need to. I have some concerns about how the neck beard is growing at a far more aggressive rate than the face beard. And it just kind of makes me look like a homeless person. You got an Andrew Luck situation going on?

It's a bit of a luck situation, and it's not lucky for the old Zeus. That's what I mean. Like, you got a, I'm triven that neck sooner than later. But here's the thing. If you're going on TV, I get it or whatever. But if you're in a situation where we're just going to be doing internet content, I say we just ride this out for as long as we can before we have to go on television. No blade shall touch my face until we get the green light.

And Ricky, that goes for you too. put down the razor let's fly uh sure like the unshaven armpit is coming back uh with the younger generation i've noticed a country that is some outrageous stuff it's just a factual statement that i'm making no you're right you're right and we have to tread carefully because uh certain things we're not supposed to have opinions on anymore but uh that you know that's something i can't get behind this that's something that's happening in society with the kids i'm with you i don't i don't see um but again i it's not an impact me at all no not at all impact me in any way so good luck to your body hair and it's not your body and it's not your choice so no but that's i this is actually

what you were saying a minute ago so don't i don't need the left i'm just i'm keeping us all in the clear i'm making sure everybody's in the clear i am not instructing anyone to do anything but i Can I just also make it clear that, like, I do shave? Like, I'm not over here, like, growing out anything. So, before that, it's global. Okay. Not yet. Put the blade down.

And speaking of global, Ricky, we have a global audience. Do you want to get a plug in for your live streaming, movie watching, live tweeting thing? Yeah, hashtag VMN, virtual movie night. I don't know if we're going to do one tonight, but potentially tomorrow. Colleen is in. John, I hope you. You guys will be in. We'll pick a movie, and we can all watch it together from afar.

My suggestions have been largely ignored, the two suggestions that I've made. Even our weekends anymore, do they mean anything? I know. My suggestion of Roadhouse stands. Yeah. No, I think, I feel like we need to do like a legally blonde, because everybody can get behind some, like, happy Reese Witherspoon right now. Yeah, but does Patrick Swayze rip out of guy's throat and legally blonde?

I don't think that was part of his fit. Does Patrick Swayze say pain don't hurt while he's getting stitches without anesthetic? Does that happen in that film? I don't know. I haven't seen it in a while, so. I like that you are bringing up legally blonde as the movie that brings all genders together. And is that a thing? I think so.

I'm not really at a special reunion while we're at it. Yeah. I just think the, you know, people that don't like women growing out their armpit hairs might not get behind a film like Legally Blonde. So if you don't fall in that category, Greg, I can't blame you. Let's just all get together and watch Lifetime. Have a little red wine. Yes. Yes.

Drinking. I've been drinking a lot. I think that looked well for you. My drinking has gone up. You know, I've been trying to get on the bike daily. I've been on the pelt on trying to drop some weight. But I can't stop drinking. So there's kind of like a bit of a tradeoff going on.

don't know how the scales are going to work out yeah but the bike purchase looking good i mean i i'm the idiot that joined uh gym three days before covid 19 truck the nation so i did a i did a hundred squats a hundred push-ups 100 sit-ups last night and then made a root bear float with all the junk i have in the house yeah it's a tough situation for it's a it's a classic tough suit so tough sit because we're all bored stuck in the house it's gonna there's going to be some unhealthy habits that are going to just float up to the surface no matter how you cut it yeah all right no way around it good talk i haven't touched a drop of alcohol since since it happened wow you west a little little solidarity with uh with your pregnant wife no she wants me to drink oh oh it's already pointed out like i didn't get

the drink when i had cancer i had to sit and watch her so now you know it's my time it's getting even time what's just a personal campaign then of sorts good for you Sometimes it's good to take a step back. And finally, a reminder. Wash your hands. 20 seconds. 20 seconds can change the world. Warm water.

Soap. And get both sides. Including Wes. Hey, why would it not? This is an audio show. But he clapped his hands and then pointed to his cuticles. Uticles are clean. Also, if you're one of the web people that live in the sewers, make sure you get the webbing.

These pipes are clean. Thanks for listening to the Around the NFL podcast presented by Intuit QuickBooks official sponsor of the NFL. This is Dan Hansa signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman, the old boss, Rick Hollywood behind the glass. Stay healthy, stay well, stay isolated. Till Thursday. You know, Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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