NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast VII: Free Agency Friday
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My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm coming to you from a city filled with heroes in bunkers.
Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosenthal.
What is up, boys?
Hey, Dan.
How are we doing?
One of the all-time great Matt Money-Smith intro is right there.
He's not phony in during the coronavirus.
I think the biggest shock to me during this whole month, which is, you know, seeing human.
civilization turned on its ear
is when I found out that money was doing a podcast
with Gianna from
Love is Blind.
Gianina.
What's her name?
Gianina.
I'm still...
This is like a regular job or it was like a one-time thing?
Hey, if you can get Gianina.
I guess I just didn't think that money would do that.
I mean, she seems...
She certainly seems to
have plenty of free time. Just judging
by, you know, kind of a light scan of her Instagram activity.
She has no concept at all that the world is troubled on any level at this point.
She's sort of just floating around, you know, jogging around town, posing with her, like,
legs up against the door.
Oh, you're tracking that closely from your location by yourself, aren't you?
No, I believe that I've shared with each, with some of you.
Wait, you're still in the motel?
Some of the discoveries.
I thought you were doing out yesterday.
Just for the shows. No, I told you we re-upped for the show. If you were to see my house, there'd be no, there's no separate room for me to go to, to do this. So I'm doing it. I'm happy for you. I think you made a wise move.
I will say that I hope to come out of this with a teachers
and with a Los Angeles County teacher certificate
because both parental units are into our seven or eight of homeschooling
and they are not effing around with the curriculum.
It is hot.
It's intense.
Yeah, they gave us some,
they gave us some, you know,
suggested work packets and this and that.
Let's just say we're going by our own plans.
Oh, rock and roll.
We'll do what we can.
Yeah, the boys have a one-hour seminar right now.
There's a mommy on the Internet that has her own two children,
and she teaches like a preschool-like class.
And, yeah, and one of her children melts down in the middle of the live stream every morning,
which is kind of funny.
Because what's you're going to do?
She's on a live stream with a lot of people watching it.
Mark, I do love that you said that you're doing this for the audience and for the podcast.
Not for you at all.
Not for you to be in your own place miles away from your family.
Well, it's definitely for our.
for the sanity of our family too, but
it's, I'm kind of getting
Well, there you go again. You said for the sanity of your
family. You can take a look around. There's nothing to do there. You said for
the sanity of your family. I think there's some
Mark Sessler involved with this as well.
Beyond the podcast community and the
family. Well, I mean, it's
so, of course this is the direction that
you will take. But I
believe me, this was
the best plan we could come up with
for what our house is under right
now. This was a smart move.
So I don't, you know, no shame
involved. This is a
getaway for anyone who has to do actual
No attempt at shaming. Just trying to get to the bottom
of it. That's all.
Well, that is the bottom of it.
I mean, there's no other secret
plans being had. I don't have anyone like hidden in
Well, how much longer do you have it now?
How much longer do you have this
residence
attached from your house?
Indefinite? Or what
like what's going on here? Well, we found
it, no, not indefinite
because remember I mentioned that the rate of it
was alarming. And it's not surprising because not a lot, not a lot of people are Airbnb in
Los Angeles right now. So the people were kind of saying, hey, do you want to keep going at this
place? And we're like, this is making sense for us. And the re-up was what you would pay for basically
one night in a typical LA Airbnb for another week. So we're just, we just said, let's do it
because it's a place to go. And I don't think it's a bad plan, frankly. I mean, you, if I had a
garage separate where I could go broadcast. It might take some of those issues away, but we just
don't have that space. So I'd be basically in like Luke and Colton's room attempting to discuss
how important it is that Todd Gurley landed with the Falcons on a one year $5 million deal
with, you know, waves of chaos foaming around my ears and mouth. I don't even. Yes, Todd
really did find a new home quickly. And we're going to get into all of the news since we last
left you and this is our sixth podcast in six days that is an around the NFL podcast record so
give yourselves a pat on the back barry harwood style ladies and gentlemen of the show and rickie
you can update the around the NFL podcast history book um if you don't mind you got it yeah working
on it tirelessly here you can also mark this day down as the the first time emma my wife ever
slithered on the ground in the background trying to get something out of this room to avoid
being out. Is this the first time Amica's ever heard any of the show, even if it's just your
voice? It is. It is. Well, they have been complaining her and Alice, my daughter, how loud
my voice is during this, that the last thing I need is a gigantic microphone. So we're going to go
through the news and we're also going to check in with where we stand now, Friday afternoon,
late afternoon on the East Coast as we're taping this
and check in with free agents that are still out there,
teams that could do well to connect with these free agents that are out there.
But before we do that, before we get into the news,
Wes, you would mention that you would have been kind of spinning around the league a little bit,
and I was curious what teams you thought have gotten a lot better
and a lot worse so far in the free agency process.
Well, I think the teams that have lost that,
the most Patriots, Rams, Texans, and here's a team that we haven't really talked a whole lot
about, but the Vikings have lost a lot. We saw today, Everson Griffin says he's not resigning there.
So Limbaal Joseph, Xavier Roach, Trey Wains, Stefan Diggs. I mean, they're losing good players.
They're losing guys who were nucleus for their team last year. So the Vikings really strike
me as a team. I don't know if we see them as like a division contender anymore. I don't
don't. Well, I'm not even a contender. Not for the division title. No, I don't think they're in the
Packers League and I'm not sure they're in the Bears League. Well, it's super early. Like the Patriots,
for instance, and I'm sure the Rams and Vikings look at this too, are going to be aggressive in
the second phase of free agency and that's when they often find a lot of their good players. But the
Vikings especially, they've had such continuity on defense. This will look different than any Mike Zimmer
team. He's going to have to prove kind of his coaching bona fide that he can take a bunch of guys
that they find in the draft
and turn it into what's been
one of the better defenses in the league.
Yeah, and I would say to fans out there
of teams that have not been active
that are perhaps freaking out
on subreddits or wherever right now
to hang tight.
As a fan of a team that has made splashes
in the first wave of free agency,
the Jets, and it often blows up in their face,
it's not easy to nail these first wave signings.
You're putting out a lot of money,
you're bringing in a veteran
that the team, in many cases,
the team he's leaving
did not make it a priority
to keep him in the building
so just because you don't hit on
some of these quote-unquote big names
doesn't mean you can't do damage at all
this is when it really
you got to have a GM that knows what he's doing
in an organization that has its crap together
so hang tight don't panic
don't panic in any way in the world
I think about it
a year ago there were images of
right as free agency was going crazy
and people were lauding the active teams
and fans of non-active teams were melting down.
Images of Bill Belichick and I believe like Barbados diving off a pier,
kind of thick-bellied, diving off a pier into the water.
And it's like he wasn't even in the office on the first day or two of free agency.
So, you know, there are many ways to attack the market.
I'm my issue with the Rams a little bit, and we hit on it yesterday,
but they also have burnt through draft stock to a degree where they're not able just to turn to the draft and solve their issues.
I'm a little hard-pressed to figure out
how they're going to solve some of the vacancy.
Wes, is there another team that jumps out to you
that maybe isn't getting as much talk right now?
As far as getting worse?
Or better. Either way.
Yeah, some of the teams that are getting better,
I think a lot of teams I can see a plan,
but going beyond that, who's like,
who could win more games this year
because they're clearly better,
the Arizona Cardinals,
I think are clearly better.
They've added on defense
in addition to DeAndre High.
Hopkins, the Miami Dolphins.
I like what the Browns have done.
And I think the Colts are a better team,
getting two impact players in Philip Rivers and DeForest Buckner.
A couple of AFC West teams, Broncos and Chargers are better, I think.
Buffalo Bills.
Buffalo Bills, ready to make that move.
And the Patriots long reign atop the AFC East, maybe, we shall see.
All right.
Now, let's do some news, gentlemen.
And yes, let's start with Todd Gurley.
who we just talked about it yesterday that
it felt that like Gurley could be in a difficult situation
because the Rams cut ties of them.
There are questions about that knee.
But the fact that he's a free agent,
I think there's a,
I think it's important distinction here.
The fact that he was on the street
is different than Cam Newton's situation like the Panthers.
Cam Newton has a medical situation as well,
but he's still attached to a team
and that team wants to maybe trade him
and that mucks the whole thing up.
Gurley is able to be a free agent, quickly contact any team.
The Falcons interested, and they assign him to a one-year, $5 million contract,
essentially a prove-it deal for Gurley to show that he can get back to his former dominant ways.
The deal, of course, now is contingent on the 25-year-old Gurley,
passing his physical with the team whenever that comes.
So Gurley is unemployed for less than 24 hours.
It's a good landing spot, Greg, isn't it?
because he's a, Devante Freeman, was let go by the Falcons.
This is a team that had no identity running the football last year.
Perhaps Gurley is in a situation where he could kind of resurrect himself.
It's a perfect, well, maybe not perfect situation,
but it's a better opportunity than I necessarily would have expected him to get
$5.5 million guaranteed, $6 million base.
That would indicate to me there was some competition for Todd Gurley,
because I was surprised that he's getting that kind of money right off the back,
considering how he played last year.
He fits what they want to do in terms of the zone,
like the one-cut power scheme.
I just, I don't see any reason to think that he's better than average.
I think in a good situation, he's going to be a decent starting running back,
and that's probably the best case.
So much of this is unknown, and I think that starts with Todd Gurley himself.
The year they went to the Super Bowl, by November, he wasn't the same back.
and I think he was trying to figure out how much of his knee was the same as it was a couple of weeks before.
The Rams have been operating in the dark.
They haven't known how serious the knee injury was or to what extent it would affect him.
And I sort of, I get what Greg's saying.
It's especially alarming that he was useless in the passing game last year.
Beyond useless, he was terrible in the passing game.
He didn't make plays.
That is usually a sign that a guy is losing his ability to make people miss when that happens.
On the other hand, we're going to be another, what, six?
seven months removed from the last time he ran the ball.
Who knows how much the knee is healing on its own in that time?
I just feel like it's an acceptable risk for what they're paying him
to see what he can come back as with the Falcons after giving that knee some more rest.
We just don't know.
I think it's a reminder that there are two or three raging stars out there today
that have signed mega deals.
And the way that it works with a lot of these skill position players is we have no idea
where they will be two years from now.
I mean, the narrative on Todd Gurley,
where we are today from when he signed that extension,
is one of the more shocking trajectories for a player in a long time.
And honestly, I'm kind of happy for the Rams
that they don't have to dance around answers
regarding Todd Gurley anymore
because I feel like it's been two off-seasons in a row
where there have been all these kind of ridiculous,
not half-truths because I think they just didn't know
what Todd Gurley would be.
but I don't want to hear about it anymore.
It's like we all get it.
He's on the fringe at this point,
and we can only find out who he is with the Falcons when the game start.
I don't want to hear promising, you know,
flowery reports about how great he looks in non-padded practices
until we see it this time around.
The money tells us nothing is to be there.
No flower reports and flowery brands.
Well, that's...
Well, you're lucky, Mark.
I don't think we're going to have any non-padded practices this year.
I'm beginning to wonder if we're going to have...
I'm saying.
Training camp even as far away as that's nice.
Bill Barnwell, a great football writer for ESPN.
He tweeted out yesterday, which, you know, is a fair point.
Imagine the Texans just kept DeAndre Hopkins and then signed Todd Gurley for $5 million.
It feels like a better situation than having Randall Cobb and David Johnson
and giving up a second round pick.
I don't know.
Feels like a better team-building scenario.
You're right.
But Bill O'Brien doesn't want to be around DeAndre Hopkins or any other good players on his team.
Except Deshaun Walsh?
There's every scenario that includes taking back like the worst trade on paper we've ever seen.
You could say that.
In other running back news, Melvin Gordon finds a home.
So 24 hours ago, one of the kind of conversations around Free Agency Week was how quiet the running back market has been.
Well, now it's starting to move.
Melvin Gordon has signed a two-year $16 million deal with $13.5 million guaranteed with the Denver Broncos rap sheet reports.
this is another weapon with Philip Lindsay back there, Royce Freeman.
It's a bit of a crowded backfield and an interesting move.
Gordon, let's face it, at the end of the day, Mark, this cannot have worked out too much worse.
He did get a two-year deal.
We were talking about he might have to play on a one-year proof of a deal.
So he does get two years.
He does get almost $14 million guaranteed, but he's not even walking into a situation
where he's going to have guaranteed number of carries going his way like Todd Gurley has for right now.
I thought it was interesting that Ian reported that Melvin Gordon, there were a couple teams interested in Melvin Gordon, and that he specifically wanted to stay in the ASC West to stick it to the Chargers, basically, that he wanted to stay in that division.
I kind of love that because, you know, last year could not have gone worse for Melvin Gordon. You have, you stage what was one of the more ineffective holdouts of our time. You come back and you aren't, you kind of, you don't fit with Austin Eckler. And if anything,
I think it kind of dragged the offense down, had one of his worst seasons.
I still think he could be awesome somewhere if he gets healthy, if he's on a hot streak
and he plays the way we've seen in the past.
It kind of bums me out if it overshadows or steals away from Philip Lindsay because,
and I know Wes loves him too.
I think he's one of the more electric, exciting players.
So you've got to find a way to make that work, but I don't decide it's signing at all.
I mean, the Broncos need help on the audience.
We're saying that Melvin Gordon almost narrowed his choices.
down to three other teams in the league because he wanted to get revenge on the Chargers.
This isn't exactly Brett Farrb leaving the Packers to go to the Vikings.
I mean, come on now.
They wanted to pay him last year.
He didn't want their money and he cost them games.
He's the villain here.
Give me a break with this that he's going to get his revenge on the Chargers.
The Chargers are going to get the revenge on him when he's sitting behind Philip Lindsay this year.
And it's amazing how quickly things change in the NFL.
We've seen that several times this week.
But last summer, Melvin Gordon is holding out,
and now Austin Echler gets more guaranteed money than he does.
His backup got more guaranteed money.
And at this time last year,
the Broncos were telling us that Royce Freeman was going to take carries away
from Phil, Lindsay, and be their number one back.
It's a super volatile.
There's no more volatile position in the NFL than running back.
Things change so quickly due to the pay schism
compared to the other elite positions in the league
due to the injuries.
how losing half a step seems devastating to a running back as we're seeing all over the league
every year. It's just wild how much things change. I want to know what Mark feels just like emotional
inside with this Melvin Gordon, you know, trying to get revenge because he's a lifelong
Chargers fan according to the hat that he's broke out today. Well, I mean, I was a fan of a different
team. The Titans yesterday and it's like half the people on our show apparently have eight different
favorite teams and Greg is now a bucks fan so I you know I'm just joining the totally confusing
roadmap of where anyone's loyalty is two points I can enjoy I can enjoy uh I can enjoy other football
teams and I'll tell you what I might be well so am I allowed to yeah that's why I was just
all right I don't understand where the question comes from mine mine is two for I uh I like I love this
signing though I mean I know they have Philip Lindsay but Elway said quickly you need two backs and
that makes sense to me I think for what they want to
do. Melvin Gordon, when he's right, I remember, you know, thinking he was a better player than
Todd Gurley as a rookie and I wrote it and I got, and I probably took more grief like on Twitter
for that opinion over the next few years after that than anything I can remember writing because
Gurley just like took off like a supernova, but I would still take Melvin Gordon over Ted
God Gurley. Like when he's right, he's a complete back and that's a great backfield.
I would take Ted Gurley over Todd Gurley at this point. I know you don't buy the
Wes, I know you don't buy that Melvin Gordon is a functionally good person on any other than this point,
but wouldn't be better to go to the Rams if you want to stick it to the Chargers?
No, I would say go to the Rams.
That was Ian's report.
I didn't bake that out of nowhere.
But like, I'd say go to the Rams, replace Dodd Gurley.
There's really not, there's competition there as well with Henderson.
But like you thrive in L.A. with the other, L.A.'s other team, that's revenge.
Denver, who's going to be pay attention up there?
we live at a time mark where when you make mistakes you keep doubling down on them
according to the leaders in this country because you can't ever be found out and melvin gordon is a good person
who made a mistake last year and he keeps doubling down on it because he doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake and cost his team games
and it's also 2020 and the idea not to hammer this point any further but the idea that you have to stay in the division to get your revenge
everyone sees every player in every game now it's not like if you leave the region or leave the time zone
or leave the TV market people can't keep up with you and decide whether or not you were worthy of the deal you thought you were worth
good luck to melbourne gordon get get back on track buddy but come on let it go
i mean something something tells me the broncos offered the most money to him
and then it's just a funny thing that fun thing that an agent tells a reporter in other news
Tom Brady officially a Tampa Bay
Buccaneer. He has signed a two-year
$50 million contract
and includes another $9 million
available in incentive, so
it can get up to $59 million.
No trade clause, 20-year
veteran getting that much guaranteed
money, no trade clause,
a multiple-year contract. It is
unprecedented. And
according to Roda World, only Jared
Gough, Ben Rothesberger,
and Dak Prescott, and
Russell Wilson,
and Jimmy Gropolo, excuse me,
will take up more of their team's cap
at quarterback under center.
So Tom Brady finally paid like a superstar,
super duper star. He gets the money.
Turns out that the Patriots never even made an offer
for Tom Brady, which is somewhat notable.
Mike Giardy had this report,
and Giardy's been a good job, done a good job.
He's been pretty plugged in.
Clearly has the ear of Robert Kraft.
here's what Giardy's report was today.
When I spoke to Robert Kraft, he made this analogy about Tom Brady's departure.
Here's the quote.
Think about loving your wife and for whatever reason there's something her father or mother
that makes life impossible for you and you have to move on but you know you don't want to.
Hubba, hubba.
Now, with that said, Ricky, let's do a little bit of a investigation here of who Robert Kraft could be alluding to.
Could it be Bill Belichick, head coach of the New England Patriots, noted butter of heads with Tom Brady?
Focus of drama in the Seth Wickersham piece.
Could it be Don Yee, the sports agent, Tom Brady's agent.
Could it be Alex Guerrero?
Argentine alternative medicine practitioner, an alkaline diet advocate, personal trainer of Tom Brady,
and the source of much, much consternation on the Patriot Way.
Could it be, Jazeel?
Brazilian model activist, author, actress businesswoman, wife of Tom Brady, and the woman with the eternal quote,
My husband cannot effing throw the ball
And catch the ball at the same time
Who is Robert Kraft
Talking about
Wait can I go with another option
Sure
I'm going to go
Gee a clumsy analogy that made no sense
It's just like word soup
No here we go
Here we go carry that water
Oh, I'm not a Patriots fan anymore, but you are defending this organization at every turn.
It's quite the opposite.
I'm saying that the less said, the better, I would say, considering some of the quotes coming up.
I'm just saying it's such a tortured analogy.
There's a chance it means absolutely nothing.
I know you want it to mean absolutely nothing, but perhaps it doesn't mean absolutely nothing, Greg.
Perhaps some things mean something.
I thought he was just calling Bill Belichick.
a mother-in-law.
Right.
That would be good.
Tell me what that means, Greg.
Tell me how that's just word soup or word salad.
And that's not something that's pointed and he's referring to someone in particular.
Because he's, if you've looked at the quotes in the last few days, he's clearly in his feelings.
You know, and he's just sort of like, I don't know, lashing out, basically.
Like the other quotes were that he, that was that Tom Brady made the,
choice to leave like i don't basically i don't find it like a overly credible source what do you
mean robert craft his quote directly to mike giardi i i can't i'm not making sense of your
defense of this situation here this is not a defense i'm trying to you know walk a tightrope here
i'm just saying i i'm not too worried about his quote i guess i i would say like that it has any
meaning in the greater way anybody else have a thought on this i mean dan yes i think if it's robert
Guerrero, the TV12 and fitness guru, he is going to be found underneath the mass turnpike,
because if he's the reason that Tom Brady is no longer with the Patriots, that's not going to sit
well with an angry contingent of people in that state. I mean, maybe it was a somewhat clumsy
quote, but it's to me, and maybe I tilt in the other direction than Greg does on this,
Robert Kraft seems to be pointing the finger at someone, and he's not pointing it.
at himself. And to me, it's Bill Belichick or bust, but he also pointed the finger at,
he pointed the finger at Tom Brady specifically a day or two ago, which was probably like the
least classy thing that went on in this entire after effect. So that would be the opposite.
Yeah, logic would say, of course Belichick didn't want him. They didn't offer him a contract.
I think one thing I would note on you mentioned, he finally gets that big time quarterback money.
this wasn't that good of a contract.
He made this money last year.
He made this money on his previous extension.
The fact he got two years is pretty interesting,
but the fact that he's making $5 million less than Ryan Tannahill this year,
I found interesting.
Every report said he had $30 million at least per year
that the Patriots were offering it a month or two ago,
and those reports turned out to be total agent-generated garbage.
How does...
Go ahead, Wes.
he's making 25 a year
that's what he made last year
this guy has
this guy has
habitually taken less money
I mean why would I think that
he tried to get as much money
as he possibly couldn't get it
because the reports
literally two days ago said
his he told both teams
he would only you know
he wanted to start the negotiations
at $30 million guaranteed per year
and that the chargers and the bucks
were in immediately off of that
but that isn't ultimately that's not
what he got
I just I don't believe
that he tried to get as much money as possible.
It's not what he's done in the past,
and I know you've tried to frame it other ways,
but he could get more money,
and he's never tried to get more money.
He's never said, I want this to be purely about the money.
I think he understands how team building works.
The Patriots did not, as I said,
did not make any type of offer to him,
and the Patriots said Tom Brady never came to us.
The Patriots not even engaging with him on this.
That's interesting to me as well.
And if he wanted $60 million and he got $50 with a chance to get up to $59 with another team,
it sounded like the Patriots are never going to play ball with them
if they never got involved in any tangible discussion with it.
I think that's right.
I think they, Belichick most likely, played it in such a way that Brady had no other choice but to leave
in that he probably had the feeling that Brady wanted to leave to begin with,
but either way, they were ready to move on.
I agree.
All right.
Last thing.
I'm just going to go through.
I'm going to parse it one more time, Greg.
So think about loving your wife.
And for whatever reason, there's something, her father or mother.
So in this analogy, Kraft is the husband.
The wife is Brady.
Okay?
There's something, and there's an outside figure, the father or mother, someone close to the wife,
that makes it impossible for you and you have to move on, but you don't want to.
I don't see how he's not pointing the finger at someone.
And if it's Belich, that would be wise.
my point is he pointed the finger at Brady two days ago, which was really surprising to me.
And maybe, like, why are you still talking about this if you're, if you're, all right, let us.
Well, because it's the biggest NFL story in 10 years.
That's why.
Well, but here's the thing, Mark, he was literally silent.
Uh, sure.
If, if, if, if the other option is that he literally was calling Stephen A. Smith during ad break,
because he didn't like what they were saying on the air
and then he's kind of taking away the work
that they put in with the state public statements
that they're reaching and then deciding to point the finger
at Tom Brady to an ESPN analyst
so that he can then relay that you're pointing a finger
and now there's another finger being pointed.
There's a middle finger being pointed.
Kraft has a lot of pride and Kraft has always been willing
to talk to the media at length and I think he wanted to make it clear
to everyone, I am not the reason.
Whether it's Brady and whether it's,
he's throwing some shaded Brady also said
some very nice things about Tom Brady
and whether he's throwing shaded person X,
which is Belichick probably.
He's making it clear to everyone in Boston,
I'm not the reason.
Right, which is, I think goes back to Wes's point
and the reason why this part frustrates me
more than anything to deal with the Brady divorce,
it's a total lack of responsibility.
You know, it's the person at the,
top choosing to point fingers instead of accepting that, like, hey, this happened, I'm in charge.
I share the responsibility and probably the best thing to do is to be like my quarterback and coach
who would never say something. That's fair. If they never made the offer, if Brady and the team
hit an impasse and Brady said, I'm going to go paid elsewhere if you're not going to be aggressive,
when it's all said and done, the owner should just take ownership and say, we decided to go
in a different direction. Because when you do this, you have gibronies like me and everybody else
out there that are now going to parse your quote and wonder if there's a schism here with
Belichick. And that's what, you know, going back three or four years ago, that Wickership
piece for ESPN, everyone always wondered whether Belichick and Brady could survive as, you know,
a pairing in terms of their egos and relationship. And this just kind of throws kerosene on it,
quite honestly. And I think it's going to continue to be a story because as good as the Patriot
way is with keeping things off the books, I think this is one that leaks and will continue to leak,
Because like Mark said, it is one of the biggest NFL stories in a very long time.
I think you're absolutely right, but it's also, it's supported in basically every report around Brady how eager he was to have a different type of voice in his head.
Like the people that seem closest to Brady keep reporting how he wanted to be treated like an adult.
I think the Aryan style of coaching, like he just was sick of that, which is very natural.
after 20 years, that he was sick of that type of coaching.
He didn't want to go back, like, competing with Jared Stiddem.
You're totally right.
And I would go look at Tom Brady's Instagram post from today
where he talks about, I think with excitement,
about starting over calling it year one
and how it's his responsibility to win over that locker room
and win over his coaches and show them from a day-to-day process,
the way he did in New England that he arrives with nothing.
He just has to show it.
Brady to me sounds like refreshed and happy
like he's the one that got out of this marriage
he wasn't happy about.
I like that Chris Godwin is not guaranteeing
that he's given the number 12 away.
Well, that's bargaining.
He was saying like he can't wait for it
to play with Todd Brady and he's texted with him
and everything.
But he was also like, well, it hasn't really come up.
But, you know, I kind of want to hold on.
We should all wish to have such leverage in negotiations
that Chris Godwin has right now, you know?
Let's stay on the topic of dramatic situations involving head coaches and players.
This story, and I read it in ESPN, Michael Rothstein had it.
Darius Slay, who of course was traded by the Lions to the Eagles,
who then gave him a new contract, a big piece added to the Eagles secondary this week.
Slay spoke out about issues with Matt Patricia that he didn't see, quote,
eye to eye a lot with one person in the organization.
It was Matt Patricia, and he cited two specific instances, one where Slay returned from
working out with a collection of star cornerbacks, and when he met with Patricia shortly
after that, Patricia made sure to tell him that he wasn't in the class of these cornerbacks,
Richard Sherman, Akid Talib, Xavier Rhodes.
He told him that he wasn't, quote, elite.
That's him straight out of the Greg Williams book of Code.
coaching. And then the big incident involved Slay posting something on social media about a wide receiver that he had been practicing with that had some success against him in the practice. And I guess Slay posted some type of positive message with a picture of that wide receiver. And Patricia went off on him in a team meeting and said something very beyond the pale to put it softly, you know, don't suck up.
to an opponent or another guy like this, you've got to be tough, but much more coarse than that in terms
of the language. And that led to a total breakdown in Slay saying, I almost, you know, I had to be
restrained, but I kept my cool, but he could never look at him with any respect after that.
Matt Patricia is a major problem with the lines, I think. And this is just another example to me
of a situation where they have to get out of the sooner rather than later.
It's just another example of a Belichick disciple leaving New England.
coming to a new place
and without really establishing
any kind of respect
without earning respect
has started acting like a jerk
to his players
and we've seen this with Eric Mangini
with Josh McDaniels
Bill O'Brien
you're not Bill Belichick
you can't act like him
act like yourself
and I'm a little confused also
at Darius Slay
his offense at this
was more about his manhood
being questioned
than the fact of
sexual orientation
in general being besmirched, I just, like, the whole thing.
I mean, he comes from a different place than us, a different background, and it's a level
of manhood challenging that I think Slay took offense to.
I mean, that's how he saw it.
It wasn't so much of challenge of his orientation.
Well, get over it then.
If it's only about challenging your manhood, then get over it.
If it's about something deeper than I understand.
And this is Slay's quote, right there after that, that's when all.
All my respect went out the door for him as a man.
So, you know, Patricia is entering year three.
The Lions, you know, it seemed very, it seemed like a coin flip whether he would stick
around.
They decided to keep Patricia in the building.
And he's going to need results this year because I think he's going to be when I put
out the hot butt rankings later this August, hopefully.
Patricia is going to be right at the top of the list with Doug Marone.
He's got to be, right?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, in a best case scenario, maybe he's.
He's just like one of those people
who tries to be funny and sarcastic,
but then everyone around them just thinks like they're...
That was another quote in it
that is sense of humor does not click with the players.
Tough sitch, as they say, for Matt Patricia.
In other free agency news,
Eric Ebron has a job,
the former Lions and Colts tight end,
signs a two-year, $12 million deal with the Steelers.
He's only 26.
He was a first round pick a long time ago, it feels like, but he's still just 26.
He had that breakout season with Andrew Luck in the Colts a couple of years ago, 13 touchdown catches, I believe.
But he did not make an impact last year, was banged up and had a very disappointing run in Detroit overall.
Steelers hoping to get something out of him.
This comes to the same day that Ben Rafflesberger in a report is saying that he feels great.
He hasn't thrown without pain like this in a long time.
So that was certainly welcome news on the Steelers front as well.
Well, and Ben Rathusberger also has been, you know, preparing, I think, for the end of days in this pandemic, you know, for a long time based on, based on how he looks.
So he's ready.
I like that Ebron signing.
The Steelers have been trying to fill that Heath Miller hole every year.
And Ebron's only, what, a year removed from that 13 or 14 touchdown season.
I saw somebody comparing his numbers last year to Jimmy Graham's numbers and give me a break with that nonsense.
sense. Watch the film. Get out of the stat book for a show. Ouch.
Ebron can still make plays. He can still box out and jump over people in the end zone.
Jimmy Graham's not doing that anymore. It's bad dog. Andrews P. gets a big deal from the Saints.
He sticks around a five-year, $57.5 million dollar contract. No player at his position has gotten
this kind of money in free agency. That's $33 million guaranteed at signing. Number 13 overall pick.
Greg, were you surprised to see Andrews Pete get this type of guap from his team?
I was shocked, and I wanted to put this in the rundown just to mention Saints' Twitter, just being aghast.
And this is the worst thing that's ever happened.
All they'd like to do is make fun of Andrews Pete every day.
My guy, that boy, Wolf.
I mean, they were just hoping, I think they all unfollowed Andrews Pete, just hoping he was leaving for another team.
and then they bring him back and give him a ton of money.
He was like the biggest reason they lost that game against the Vikings.
Your boy, Dad Boy Wolf,
waited the Bengals asking if they would accept him as a fan now.
Wait, so the Saints, they unfollow Andrews Pete in mass?
Is that true?
Well, I don't know about that.
That's kind of a going bit that, again, I mean,
Dat Boy Wolf is getting made.
That boy, Wolf killing it right now.
Every time one of their bad player,
One of their players goes to another team.
He just, like, quote, retweets it and with all caps unfollowed.
And so, I don't know.
They just hate them some Andrews P.
And then so this contract, I think, threw them for a loop.
Hey, Ryan.
I haven't seen hate like this from Saints' Twitter since Kirk Coleman.
Hey, Ryan, a.k. Dat boy Wolf.
You're having a moment, man.
I know things are tough right now, and we're all getting through it the best we can.
But just know, you're having a moment, and we see it.
Maybe it gets overlooked in the big picture, but you're having a wolf.
You're having a wolfy moment here.
Moving on.
Let's get into it.
That's what's happening in the news.
There's your rundown.
We talked about it.
We wanted to go through players that are still out there and are, you know, could be a nice pickup in the second wave of free agency.
We'll start right here, and we could go through the list, but we'll start.
right here. Mike Giardy, our own Mike Giardy, reports that the Patriots are, quote, unlikely
to target free agent quarterback James Winston. So if Giardt's reporting is accurate and it has
been to the state in Patriots-related matters, you could cross off another potential starting
job for James Winston. Let's talk about Winston a little bit. Do you think we're reaching the
point where the man coming off the 33 touchdown 5,000 yard season, also 30 and
receptions is going to be holding a clipboard in week one, barring some type of unforeseen
circumstances?
I think we're getting closer and closer to that.
I mean, no one was rushing out for James Winston.
I still see a few landing spots out there where if he got into training camp, the current
quarterback in question could be unseated.
Because I think, I would say Jacksonville would be somewhere where if that team kind of melts
and James Winston were at the backup quarterback spot Pund Gardner-Minchia
that he could easily be starting by week five or six.
I feel the same way of Andy Dahlton went to Jacksonville.
Right.
They hired Jay Gruden, who drafted Andy Dalton with the Bengals.
That was clearly, Mike Brown wanted Kaepernick,
and Jay Gruden wanted Dalton.
I could see definitely the Jaguars getting Dalton.
I don't see Jay Gruden going for James.
But Dalton makes a ton of sense.
I just, but there aren't a lot of spots where Winston, if he goes,
is going to, like, be seen as a starter.
I can't find anywhere for him.
He's not going to be a starter week one.
Probably his best chance to play would be Washington.
If they kind of take him as the,
if Dwayne Haskins struggles, let's play James Winston guy,
which just feels like a Washington move.
I can very much imagine James Winston's struggling on the Redskins.
I don't think it would be a good move for James Winston,
but I just don't see him having.
options. I was wondering if the Patriots might be
interested, but it's great.
Well, there's a lot. Here's another option.
Potentially, the chargers
are out there. Now, everyone's connecting
them to taking a quarterback, which
if that's the case, if they're set on that,
they're not going to go near Winston because they already have
a solid backup
in Tyra Taylor.
And I'm trying to think
where else would he, I'm talking about
anywhere where he would have any chance
to be the week one starter. I think
Jackson, Washington,
perhaps, Jacksonville, perhaps, L.A., perhaps.
But we're running out of options, and that goes for Andy Dalton, of course, as well, and
Cam Newton.
Not logical.
I went through his former offensive coordinators.
I went through his former quarterbacks coaches.
None of these guys are even in the NFL anymore.
I don't see a fit.
They don't like them anyway, it seems like.
Yeah, I don't see anywhere for James.
Like, I don't even know where he's going to go to be a pure backup.
Denver, I thought, maybe if Elway, you know, just wanted to bet on some talent as a guy to put behind Locke.
And it is another reminder in football.
Running back is the most volatile of these positions, it seems.
But quarterback is right there, too, because it was only a couple summers ago on hard knocks that James Winston was the darling of Tampa Bay.
And he was up at 5 a.m., listening to affirmative words of affirmation, those audiobook.
and the whole building was just obsessed with him,
seeing him as their present and their future.
And now he's in a position where he's going to have to basically rebuild his career from
scratch.
And everyone is saying how shocking it is because he had the 30 plus touchdowns of 5,000 yards
passing.
But I think the book on him got so thick over the years and years of careless play
that it just poisoned him on this market.
I mean, there's no other way to look at it.
I mean, he basically has to remake his entire game, and I don't know if that's possible.
It certainly didn't look like he had that ability in five years in Tampa.
I mean, they didn't slow out.
Yeah.
With, I was to say, with James Winston's throwing in an interceptions, 30 interceptions,
they lost like five or six games by one score, and he threw seven pick sixes.
I mean, can you ever imagine him on New England when Bill Belichick benches are running back?
who will, if he fumbles, up by 25 points in the third quarter.
So it's like, I can't think of a worse marriage than a team that is obsessed with flawless football.
You need to find someone that's looking for a gun slinger and maybe just banking on talent.
And I just don't, to Wes's point, I don't see where that landing spot is.
Oh, okay.
Denver.
Now, the more I think that it really does feel like.
Because what a true lock is just not much by week four.
Then you have a viable.
They need something else there.
You have a person behind him.
I don't know about it, viable.
You know, Jonah Gray, is that his name?
He's still chained to a radiator somewhere.
Jonas, yeah.
He had a 200-yard four-touchdown game on Sunday night football,
and then his iPhone didn't go off,
and Belchek basically ruined his career for it.
So, yeah.
That is what it is with Bill sometimes.
Bill's Bill.
Yeah.
I mean, if Jonas Gray was meant to be the next Earl Campbell, it would have happened.
Anybody, Wes, you want to throw one out there,
throw out a player.
That's still a free agent right now as a Friday late afternoon and perhaps a fit.
Well, this guy is not like a household name, but he, he's a very good starting safety,
Von Bell from the Saints.
They signed to Malcolm Jenkins, appears to have taken his place,
so he's probably not going back to New Orleans.
But I see all that, you know, the reports that all these guys are interested in going to Tampa Bay
and playing with Tom Brady, I don't know if Evan Bame is really moving the needle on that front.
but, or Joe Hague, I guess, is the guy they saw.
Joe Hague, Colts backup linemen.
But Von Bell, they have a need at safety.
Could be a fit there.
And I think the Bears are another team after losing Ha-ha Clinton Dix
that they could pair him with Eddie Jackson.
I would love to see.
He's one of our highest-ranked players.
I would love to know what the market is now for a Jadavian clowning.
I would like to know where his price tag is at.
Because at the right price, if he is not being.
paid as one of the most, you know, if he's not valued by the league is amongst the highest
paid players in the league on defenses, which what he wants it to be. If that price tag comes
down, he makes sense for a ton of teams. I mean, you can name 15, 20 teams that could use
a guy like him that could at times dominate from the edge. So I'm not going to even attach him to
one team, but I'm just curious if his market is coming down and he's not going to get the
money he wanted.
I think it was, what, $20 million annually?
If any number of teams should maybe check in, even if he initially wasn't on the list
because they thought he'd be too rich.
Well, the Seahawks reportedly had a multi-year.
And he had interest in the Giants.
That's one.
If the price gets down to the certain place, New York Giants.
The Seahawks reportedly had a multi-year offer on the table that he didn't like.
So maybe it was like a three year or 17 a year.
Or he might have to take a one year contract for more, you know, per year money that are parents.
You know, Wes, this would be another example for the GM.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know how that would work, actually.
Maybe there is some type of moderator.
All right, I got it.
So we as a moderator, as a, yeah, as a moderator, you, you have the intel.
You know what the offer is.
And then you kind of drop it in there at the top of the thread, like top thread.
Hey, Jadavian Clowny right now, it's four years, 48 million who can beat it.
And then that could basically juice the market and everybody gets a chance to look at it and decide whether to play ball.
Well, I see this as an opportunity to expand.
It's like from the developers of the GM app, we present the free agent app.
Shop yourself around the league.
So it allows you to use the GM app as an agent.
Isn't that basically what an agent is being.
hired to do.
We're changing everything.
Isn't that what the GM is that hired to do?
So you're killing like 600 jobs basically.
I mean, they're agents.
Well, the app handles that.
That's what all apps do.
They kill jobs.
My other question with the app is, aren't front offices,
aren't one of the main tenants of an NFL front office to not share information
with anyone else?
And this does the,
I guess the point,
I guess one of the points.
You know,
this is a new tech.
Right.
It's 2020.
The world is upside down.
Maybe it's time.
to take a look like it's like how los angeles is an example with everyone off the roads for the
most part industry at a standstill we have never had better air quality uh you have to go back
you know hundreds of years to match the air quality we have right now 1640 guess what 1640 bro
and guess what uh nobody would have even known that if if this didn't happen and and now we have
a chance to do something similar in this realm where no one ever thought that things needed to
change or what could happen if you did change.
Excellent. And now here we are. Here we are standing at the doorstep of history.
Are we going to walk in, Mark, or you're going to just stay on the outside? You make the
decision.
All right. At the same time, like every eatery, bistro, bar, public place is closed. So, I mean,
the tradeoff, we have some nice air, and that's, that's a positive. People are dying.
You can go anywhere. You can't talk to anyone.
You can go on hikes, though. I feel like people, you can go on walks. You can go exercise. People,
people taking this stay inside thinking a little too much.
They're saying, go get outside.
Ricky, you are.
Well, you've got to figure it out, Craig.
I mean, we could have gone hiking before, too, though.
So it's like, you know, hike now.
Well, now we have to.
I mean, Ricky, you're a glorious social butterfly in the prime of her youth.
With that, there has been some buzz out there.
I think La Keisha Jackson-Westling had thrown it out there as a possibility of some type of happy hour.
Like a everybody gets on a Google hangar.
out type situation and cracks a few and gets loose? Is that something that you maybe can spearhead
because you are very good at these things? Yeah, definitely. I'm actually, it's with some of my best
friends from home, we're doing a virtual happy hour at five o'clock Pacific because it's eight
o'clock there. So we'll have to schedule ours a little bit later for me to be able to jump in,
but yeah, I can I can spearhead that. I guess I'll plan on being virtually happy. I haven't,
you know, Wes has said that he hasn't had a drink since the start.
I have not had a drink in 45 hours about, and I'm feeling like it's time to treat myself.
Mr. Jones.
45 hours.
You were in hot water.
It sounded like on Wednesday or so, so this is a positive update.
It's time to get loose.
I have completely destroyed my body.
My body is destroyed.
He's dead.
It's done?
It's a wrap.
It's just like there's no coming out like of this.
Like I try to do workout videos and I've been going up for walks, but then I just totally.
destroy every bit of progress that I make.
What would you say you're ingesting?
Just like way too much booze, way too much booze.
Anything else?
You know, I don't think so.
So, like, I drank a little bleach.
There you go.
I want to check in on this deflated wide receiver market.
Connor Hughes does great work for the athletic,
covering the Jets. He reported today that it is, quote, radio silence on the Robbie Anderson market,
which, you know, speaking of the bill come and do, the bill came due on James Winston, all those
mistakes, and now he can't get a job, and he's in a tough spot.
Robbie Anderson, even though he kept his nose clean this past year, the fact that he's not,
you know, he's not exactly a polished wide receiver despite having great speed and playmaking
ability. The fact that he was a knucklehead off the field and has had multiple issues
in the past, when you combine those things, teams aren't looking at him, it seems, in a way
where they want to pay him. Or, or maybe all the reports out there that he wanted $15 million
a year is scaring teams off and it's time for his price tag to come down.
Now, it's probably, actually, it's probably maybe a little bit of both, but probably more
than money. I think very strongly that the Jets should get Robbie Anderson and keep him in the
building. I've said that multiple times, but I want to
throw another team out there. What are the
Packers doing? We love our
boy, the big
German. This is your corner.
What's his name again? Who's it? Goody.
Goody. God. Let's listen to that, Ricky.
We love Goody,
and he did a great job or great-ish
job rebuilding the defense last year.
But it has been pretty...
Packers need more weapons for Rogers
is Dan's corner. It's his off-season corner. And you know what?
It's been pretty quiet. And I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what,
Emmanuel Sanders is out there, two still.
Robbie Anderson is out there.
Rashad Perryman, which, all right, but DeAndre Hopkins.
No, I'm just saying nobody's signing wide receivers because of this draft class coming in.
Okay, so if that's going to be the route to Packers go, great.
But how about Goody?
I'm going to put a challenge out to Goody.
Pick up the phone and just make sure there's no other DeAndre Hopkins situations out there in the league.
Get on the GM app and say, hey, anybody else looking to unload a franchise wide receipts?
receiver for reasons unknown.
I need one because Hopkins would have been an amazing fit across from
Devante Adams in Green Bay.
People would have been going nuts about that.
Is A.J. Green, who's been franchised by the Bengals, are we sure?
Is the football world absolutely certain that if you made a phone call to Mike
Brown or whomever in that building that you couldn't maybe get A.J.
Green in a sign and trade thing.
Kick some tires, Goody.
Don't go all in on the draft class.
That's one thing that stands out to me.
There are whispers out there, and I get that they're not coming from the Associated Press at this point, but there are whispers, and this is how the O'Dell Beckham trade started in Cleveland initially.
Sessler always on the defense.
I don't know why.
There are whispers that, no, but there are whispers that he is potentially available.
And I just throw that out there talking a week and see if I.
Who's he?
What do you mean, who?
Who is he?
see who is available?
Odell Beckham.
Okay.
In Cleveland.
That's been talked about forever.
That it's just,
it's not that they're trying to move them,
that they're desperately trying to move them.
It's not a Bill O'Brien situation at all,
but that they are listening to that.
And I still think if I'm Green Bay,
I would rather get someone like Emmanuel Sanders
than Robbie Anderson on a short-term deal.
But the Packers notoriously last off-season
were singing Dixie about how excited they
were about their young guys. And I thought the season played out to show that they shouldn't have
been. And are they doubling down just because that's how they felt a year ago? I doubt it.
I agree with you, Dan. They need to add weapons. But it's a good one to see. O'Dell Beckham,
how cross is O'Dell Beckham that the Brown's new uniform fashion show is canceled? I mean,
that's been the thing that he's had circled on his calendar for decades, potentially. He's going to lose
that. How do we know it's canceled? I don't know if it's going to happen. I, uh, do that virtually.
I think with Robbie Anderson, I'm glad you mentioned the money.
Like, as a younger person, I used to think, you might as well just ask for as much money as you possibly can.
Like, it couldn't possibly hurt.
But I think, like, sometimes it can hurt.
And in Robbie Anderson's case, it's like, yeah, like, he throws that money out.
And everyone's just like, okay, forget about Robin.
Oh, by the way, James Winston did the same thing as soon as the season ended, thought he was $100 million quarterback.
Right, exactly.
And we had reports on our network saying they were going to franchise him
and that he wanted more money than that.
And sometimes that can cool the market on a guy like Robbie Anderson
who I think we'll still get a decent contract,
but where there's no interest.
I'm going to make a match, by the way, while we're talking receivers.
Manny Sanders to the Cowboys.
There's this perception that the Cowboys don't have cap space.
They got plenty of cap space right now.
I would love to see a little Manny Sanders between Gallup and Amari,
Cooper and fly. Like let's
let's win now. Yeah, that Cowboys Cap
Apocalypse probably doesn't hit for another two years
or so. Well, there's an update on
this as we went to air. ESPN's
Todd Archer said, based on
multiple conversations I've had with
Cowboys folks, I'd be stunned
if Manny Sanders ends up there.
But that was
in the air for a day or two.
I still like the Ravens as a
landing spot for him. I just think that
he is a perfect
teammate he fills a perfect need for them at a Super Bowl open window scenario that I think he wants
to that matters to him right now and you know they don't have a ton of cash necessarily but
with what they've done on their defense like the Ravens are one of those teams I think that have
helped themselves a lot and I do see a need for wide receiver and manny Sanders would be how about the
Niners find a way to keep him in the building he was a great pickup for them the only reason he faded
at the end is he was hurt sounds like that's possible I would love to like give some cool players
especially Cam Newton to the Patriots,
but the Patriots have zero cap room right now.
So I'm curious what they are going to do about that
because they have some big moves, I think, yet to make.
Maybe it's still restructuring
and you just go with Stidim and this is what they're doing.
But knowing Belichick, it feels like there's something big coming
to clear some of that space out
so that they can get flexible and do something.
Maybe they're just going to go to camp with Stidham,
but Cam Newton would be a lot.
more fun. What about like a direct snap
offense where you use Joe
Tunney as an all-purpose
fullback who the center is
direct snapping to and he gets six to
700 touches this year for
780 yards? They are bringing
in Danny Vitale, the
pullback from the Packers. Like that's been
the Patriots big move. You could go double fullback.
How does just from a mechanical point of
view more than a realistic
possibility, the
first round tender given to
you boy, Taysam
Hill. How does that work? So if you
sign him to
an offer sheet that the Saints
failed to match, you have to give up your first round pick?
Exactly.
But you could work out a trade
and that's happened plenty. So in
theory, if the Patriots
wanted to offer a second round pick
for Taysam Hill, you know, the Saints could
still agree to take it if they wanted to.
Maybe catch Sean Payton
while he's not feeling 100%
and snatch Tasing Hill away.
Cold-blooded.
What, I'm just saying.
You know, it's like he's probably not total head in the game right now.
You could maybe...
Feels like the whole chick would go there.
I think he would.
Doesn't sound like a very nice man.
Sessler's like like the Tom Hanks friend who's trying to like take advantage of him during his time of need.
Take take some money.
Hey, can I go stay at your house in L.A.?
You're in Australia.
I don't put a best bill like sending a package or something to Sean Payton.
And that's how this all started.
And it was all part of a long play.
What's in that package?
Well, you can pick that.
Yeah, I agree.
I think they need to, they're going to change.
they're going to change some players.
I don't know.
The cap thing with them is interesting.
I just feel like they have,
like maybe it's Julian Edelman.
How about that?
Little FedEx COVID-style, Ricky Holloman.
Yeah, seriously.
What is Erica laughing at?
Because Dan was like,
I think Bill Belichick literally sent a package to Sean Payton,
and this is how that whole start,
this whole thing started.
And Greg's like, yeah, I agree.
Like, he didn't even hear.
And it was just funny.
It does show how much our world's changed.
Six days ago, Sean Payton was,
in a packed shoulder-to-shoulder infield of a horse racing competition in which he owned some
horses and he was doing interviews about how free agency was going to get delayed that was six
days ago and he was surrounded by like a thousand people at that point interesting times yeah
think about the horses any uh anybody else want to throw out one before we uh sign off for the weekend
this sounds very hometownish for me but like clay matthews is out there and i think that very few
draft day gaffs by the browns annoyed their fandom more than not when he was there and he was
available not drafting clay matthews after the incredible hall of fame worthy to me career that
clay matthews too had in cleveland for years and years that clay matthews is available they could
use a pass rusher and i don't know why you just don't bring
Bring him in for one year.
Wait, got those old uniforms coming back, like you mentioned.
That's who you model.
You virtually model Clay Matthews in your old school Brown's uniforms.
He goes in there.
What do you have, eight sacks last year?
I'm not saying he's the same old guy, but he had a pretty solid season, at least the
beginning of last year.
Just see what, you know, you have to drop $45 million on the guy.
So you basically just want to bring him in because he'll look hot in the new uniform.
Is that basically what you're getting at here?
No, because his father played there.
And it's like, if, like, if Todd Gasson.
to know are available.
You know Todd Gastonel on the gym,
so it's the same that you would.
I hold no affinity for Mark Gasna.
Don't worry.
You have Neville Hewitt.
You don't be in Todd Gaston.
Ouch.
Hey, not a free agent, but Trent Williams,
he's sort of like James Winston to me.
I went around the league, all 32 teams,
and I'm not seeing a team desperate right now,
which seems weird after the last few years.
I'm not seeing a team desperate for a 32-year-old.
left tackle.
Teams like the Browns, I think, are eyeing the draft with a strong tackle class.
And to me, the Redskins need Trent Williams more than anyone else does.
That's a good one.
Jason Peters is out there, too.
And he is 37 years old, turning 38.
Feels like a guy he could still play, maybe a good short-term guy where you, I'll use my
team as an example.
If you're in the market for a left tackle in the draft, that you could get a guy like
Peters, maybe start the rookie on the right side, and then when it's time he could slide over.
He's also injury insurance.
If Peters gets hurt.
The just have George Fant.
What's that?
All their problems are settled with George Fant.
The Jets have George Fant, and they're good.
Hey, listen.
Yes, you know more about offensive line play than the movie Joe Douglas.
Joey Douglas, because Joe Douglas has been making savvy under the radar offensive linemen signings all week.
And we don't even need to get into it on the show.
But this guy is plugged in and he knows what he's doing.
Look out.
Is Indama Kansu still a free agent?
Or did he resign?
He is.
He's on the street.
This is his move.
He doesn't sign right away, does he?
No.
What's his buddy?
Lee Ayacocca.
He's always hanging around.
He's been talking to Lee Ayacocca and he's, you know.
I forgot about that.
Is a Chrysler guy?
Yeah, Lee said, hold off.
You could sign always later in the summer at this juncture of your career.
all right
everybody
have a nice weekend
is it even a weekend anymore
have weekends ceased
well we don't have the podcast
yeah that's a difference but in terms of days
are days a thing anymore or days over
not really well I would say honestly
I will not be
doing three and a half hours of math
and reading homework with a child tomorrow
I mean we'll do something more engaging
and fun I hope where will we go
I have no idea
that's good for structure
that's good like I was I was asked by Phil Specter our editor to put together a post free agency wave one power rankings and I was thinking to myself you know I have to file it by noon on Monday which means should I write do some work today Friday because I want to keep the weekend open to spend it with the family was like all I do is spend time with my family now so I think I will be doing some of that assignment on Saturday and Sunday so it's kind of essentially flipped
everything's inside out now i don't like it i like the way things used to be yeah we we the city of los angeles
and our entire state well you got you got your clean air down since we last have your nice pure clean air
now we're supposed to have an NFL now and total access at NFL network today and it's all canceled the
entire building is closed there is no more NFL network rickie we have a what's essentially a thriving
video NFL analysis show five days a week that we've been doing six days to be completely
accurate what how is this not something that the shadow league figures can just put on
television five days a week you know what i've i've been pitching it and that's why i've been
doing all these different things with videos so we are putting out video content so we appreciate
all the shares and likes on instagram and twitter and hopefully we'll be used to me come on
not only do we give trenchant analysis with a dash of mirth
we also are doing it every day and they don't have content
how many times like I checked in on NFL and they were right before we came on
and it's James Winston Showcase was the name of it
and they were just playing James Winston games which by the way
James Winston is he is he paying NFL Network to essentially
advertise his wares although I guess showing Winston highlights from last year
might not be a great advertisement but
that Bucks Rams games
underrated, 55. Just put us on the air. We're not even asking for a raise yet.
Hey, Mark, via two...
Now is maybe not the time. Two minutes ago from Tom Pelliserro,
tight end Seth DeValve has agreed to terms with the Panthers, per his agent.
Listen, I mean, the Panthers, they're going to rebuild and they're looking for superstars of the future,
and that is Seth DeValve right there. So I think it is a tremendous landing spot for him,
and I expect tremendous huge things.
Great.
That was very Trumpian, by the way.
Just say tremendous a lot.
Just say huge.
And nobody will notice.
I think I tops his press conference from today, actually, based on what.
Seriously.
I am.
Do you do?
Yeah, I'm having trouble hearing you, Mark.
Maybe this is a good time for us to say goodbye.
Thank you to the audience.
Thank you.
to you, Ricky, for helping us to do this, a full week of shows done in five different
locations. Technology's not so bad. Thanks to my kids for staying quiet. Are they still in the
house? Are you guys here? Well, let's sign off so you can make sure they're safe. And I need
to do some dad work now as well. So everybody, stay safe. Do what you got to do. Stay inside the
house. Don't do anything stupid. Don't go to spring break. I mean, are you kidding me? You're going
the spring break kids i mean i get it it sucks it's it's screwing your spring break but are you being
serious with this less come on come down on these kids i can't wait until i have to deal with all that
what a disaster anyway uh thank you for listening this uh this is the around the nfl podcast
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but all across the Southland, till Monday.
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