NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast XXIV: Odell Trade?

Episode Date: April 15, 2020

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Hey, Dan. Hey. How's everybody doing? It's hump day. Hump day in a quarantine. Nothing worse than the entire world has ever happened. It's nice out, though. It's beautiful here in Southern California.

It is starting to really get to me, though, this no sports thing. And not a big college sports guy. So March Madness, you know, that was an excitement that was lost. Other people, that was a much bigger hit. I get that. NBA, that stinks, but the Knicks being terrible was taking me out of the league a little bit until playoff time. But not having my Yankees. And I think there's a lot of people out here, like the masters and people that are big baseball fans and hockey would be getting hot right now. For me,

it's starting to like, I'm feeling that itch. Like, where are my sports? I'm talking to you guys right now because I fell in love with sports when I was young. So this idea that they've just gone now and it's becoming just a part of the world, I'm not used to it. In fact, it's starting the itch is getting harder to scratch west it's right in the center of the back yeah i had football was my first or baseball was my first love and and i was obsessed with it most of my life i got back into it a few years ago with the reds and they've been keeping me sane baseball's every day and you get used to that you know for a hundred and sixty two straight days you get one day off a week maybe but it's there every day and it's for the first times in

our lives except for the 94-95 strike it's not there And I had sort of, I was excited for the Reds for the first time in a while that they might actually reward my faith and loyalty and have a good season. But I have a mental block on baseball. I just won't even allow my mind to go there because I was so excited for this season. And now I just don't think it's happening this summer at all. I hear you guys. I mean, I openly don't track baseball or really any sport outside of football the same way you guys do. But I don't say that cynically.

I think that I've got in my own friend group five or six guys who lean on sports to de-stress and to connect with something and to simply sit back and enjoy. And it's been replaced with nothing. I'm at the point where I don't care what Netflix show you are obsessed with. I'm done with Netflix. I'm kind of done with movies. I'm looking at the books on bookshelves and being like done with books. There's too much time to inhale content, and at least sports are highly unpredictable in a two

or three hour time capsule, and I think that's really missed. With baseball, and I think Dan would probably back me up on this. It's not even just watching the games every day. It's sort of the stories and the soap operas that you get into, like so-and-so is having a bad year, we need to see him benched, or this guy's really hot at AAA, let's bring him up to the majors. He's a solution to all of our problems. And it's that day-to-day sort of soap opera that you get into, and it keeps your mind busy. And I miss that. I miss getting caught up in the particulars of a season.

I like being in that inner group that follows the season closely. And I'm reading all the fan blogs and the beat writers and just like completely, it's a release for me, baseball season, as a daily exercise just like the NBA season or hockey or these other sports that are gone are for other people. So that's the new normal we are in right now where it doesn't exist. From Greg, our hot governor, Gavin Newsom, this came today, I believe, or maybe yesterday. He called sports and other large events unlikely this summer in California. Here's the quote, the prospect of mass gatherings is negligible at best until we get to herd immunity and get to a vaccine.

So that's a little bit foreboding. And we're going to get to it just in a minute or so in the news about the idea. of all, what does this mean for the NFL? Because the way this all broke schedule-wise or timing-wise for the NFL, it left football in the clear for the time being. But you know how this is going to be. It's going to sneak up on everybody unless this thing makes a hard left turn. And we're in the clear.

The NFL is going to face issues just the way these other sports have. Yeah, I think as this has gone on, the reality of how long it's going to take is setting in. And you guys mentioned, like, the baseball season. In sports in general, I feel like our job on some level is just like, like to help distract people from, you know, the reality that they're going to die someday. Like that's, that's what sports is. And now you got none of that.

And just sum it up, Greg. Right. I mean, instead of, like, being distracted from that, I think people are facing that right in the mirror. And we thought we had the perfect timing with football and everything. But, and we'll get to it in the news, just like the Bay Area, you know, I think it's like the sports commissioner, like health commissioner there. He's, you know, saying, like, we're.

making the decisions when people are back in stadiums. It's not going to be the president or the commissioners of sports leagues. And maybe there's going to be a push and pull with that, but you realize, like, it's not as easy as just like, okay, they'll be back to go in September. What was that take that sports distract us from the fact that we're going to die? Well, I think most, true. I think most everything. I would let me know a little more on that. You don't just gloss over a statement. Yeah, okay. Well, I think most every sort of like, you know, light. entertainment is, yeah, on some level, kind of like a distraction from that, you know, we're all on this earth. And eventually we won't be anymore. Is this a podcast? Is it finally happening?

Let's do it. You got to, you know, spend, you know, you got to use your time up kind of like getting distracted from that. Yeah. Well, I think a cornerstone of depression is dealing with the fact that we're all going to die. A cornerstone of mental illness is that despair. And anything that can take your mind off of it is valuable. I think it could be an okay thing, like being aware of that. That means you're going to make sure to enjoy the time that you have. And for me, that's like watching and covering sports, diving deep and stuff like that. I'm not disagreeing with you per se, but if that's the reason I watch sports,

it is buried way, way, way in the back of myself. Well, of course. That means it's working. One thing with, yeah, maybe. One thing with having young children, too, when you have a five-year-old or a four-year-old in that range, when they start asking, they start to, understand the notion of death, they start asking some questions that are difficult to answer. So that's been floating around Hansus Manor for about a month or two now.

So deal with that on top of it. Yeah. What kind of questions? Oh, am I going to die? My five-year-old asking, are you going to die? Are you going to get old? I don't want you to get old. I'm never going to get old.

You're not going to die. There's stuff like that. And then it's like, well, how do you handle this? Most of Walker's biggest fears are about that. We were just talking about it because I mentioned, you know, we're going to talk about Willie Davis, the Packers Great who passed away. And they asked me about that because I was looking up some stuff in a book. And he happened to pass away in Santa Monica. And they were just like, well, where does he go after the hospital?

I was like, well, either goes, you know, in the ground or, you know, they burn him up and put him in a can. You know, not the way I expected to get into this news brief, but I just say they go to heaven. But you could give them the literal breakdown of what happens. Well, we go by cemetery. It's come up before because they go swimming near a cemetery. They ask what that is. I tell them. Wes, that is something you have to look forward to.

A little toddler corpse talk. Maybe bring Greg in on it. I may not borrow the can speech. I didn't really say that. That part of it I was making up to be funny. We might talk about spreading ashes somewhere, you know, over the ocean, but I don't know about a can. And son, make sure you use a good crematorium.

You don't want chunky. You want nice. I didn't really say that. All right, yes, let's do some news. I like to spice it up here at Casa Dill Slayer. Today is Hero and Villains Day. All right, about 35 minutes before the show is scheduled to start. I said, Erica, do we have a news drop yet?

She said nothing yet. You know, waited one, two, three beats. And then I was like, okay, here it comes. Maybe we'll use something for my new viral video that I put out. Okay, right? Well, you know it's important because it's the first time in at least like four or five days that Erica's repeatedly asked us to retweet something. So it's like,

four to five days. The second time you've exaggerated. If you said smash the retweet. Ricky, tell us about that video because it's getting some love. It's getting some pop on social. Yeah, it's doing pretty well.

We just did a quarantine, you know, uniform reveal. We have all the Browns released theirs today. We actually had this video done last week, but we wanted to release it when the Browns did. So it kind of, you know, match the peak. That's social for you, Greg.

And, you know, it's just funny that they do. these dumb hip-hop videos like revealing the uniform. So we're like, why don't we do what our quarantine uniform looks like? Mark, do you have a problem with Ricky using the back of your favorite team's uniform reveal

to launch a viral content and maybe steal the spotlight a little bit from your Browns? Not overtly because if I suggest any sort of anti-Ricky narrative attached to this, what will happen is on our Instagram page, my image won't appear for the next two or three months.

It'll be all Dan and Greg, and it'll probably take place on Twitter and other platforms. So I have very much in favor of what Ricky's done. And if Ricky can overtake our Instagram page with images of none of us, but all of her friends, why not? Go for it. Well, Lakeisha, Colleen, Jane Slater, they're friends of the show. They are. They are. They did some great camera work.

All right. And every once in a while, you could tell. there's going to be a little of a Cessler edge to the show. And I think we got the edge today. I'm looking forward to it. I'm barely spoken in the show so far. All right. I mentioned that we talked a little bit more about, you know, what's going on with sports going forward.

Will we have any type of sporting calendar in 2020 as COVID-19 turns everything in the world upside down? It's time for our first appearance. from Dr. Anthony Fauci. We love this guy, Tony Fauci. It's the guy that Colleen has fallen for. She said it as much on last week's show. He's the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Affectious Diseases. And he's a member of Trump's White House Corona Task Force.

And he's a guy that a lot of people are trusting in this time to give us smart, sensible, medically based, and based on science, input on what's going on. with this terrible COVID-19 in the coronavirus. He also is debunking the myth that 5G lowers immunity to coronavirus, which is all good stuff. We need somebody out there to say, you know, your cell phone bars aren't going to give you coronavirus. Fauci, just an example of why he's such a stud in this situation.

Right, Mark? I think he's doing a great job. And he's doing it with people around him that might not be direct allies. So there's an element of bravery. to saying what's on his mind and how he feels. Yes, Fauci was on Good Luck America. I don't know what that is, but a man by the name of Peter Hamby interviewed Fauci,

and he asked Fauci when we might expect to see sports again, baseball, football, everything else. Here's what Fauci had to say. There's a way of doing that. Nobody comes to the stadium. Put them in big hotels, you know, wherever you want to play, keep them very well surveilled, namely a surveillance, but have them tested like every week

and make sure they don't wind up infecting each other or their family and just let them play the season. Ricky, do you put that music under there? No, that was from the show. So, yeah, again, it seems far off, but since we have no way of knowing how long this is going to linger and when it comes to a vaccine

or this idea, we know that everybody's safe, it feels like the NFL will be affected and perhaps seriously, you know, by the time August and September rolls around. I feel like since I was a child, every sports publication, you know, every few years you would see predictions for the future. And one of the predictions was always like, at some point before you die, sports will transition fully to television or internet and there will be nobody in the stadiums. And it always seemed joyless and sterile to me.

And it's not something I really have interested in. Hmm. It would be weird. I kind of see what you're saying. I'm with Wes a little bit on that. Aesthetically, I understand where you're coming from. Absolutely. But let's say you have the option of having a half of red season, but it's without fans.

Are you going to watch it? Are you going to want it? No, I've checked out for seasons at a time before, even with fans. I'd rather read a book or study the history of baseball. I just, that's not for me. And it's easy to say that now, maybe if we, maybe if it goes on for a long time and I'm, I pine for it, maybe, but it's just not something that interests me. I, well, I'll say this, Wes, since it's so unprecedented, I don't think you're,

you're saying that now is totally fair because you can only say how you feel in the moment. If the game started and let's say the Reds are 20 games over 500, and the product was the same for the most part, it's guys playing at the top level of the sport against each other. And, and you kind of get used to the lack of noise. know that will take a while for all of us if it happened. But I feel like I would be able to get into it if the product on the field was still good and that didn't feel like it was compromised. That to me is the biggest thing.

That's a fair retort. I think, you know, if the Reds were 20 games over 500, I'd probably check to see if hell froze over before anything happened. But yeah, I might get swept up in whatever fever that causes. Oh, man. This is weird. It's crazy. I mean, the guy I mentioned earlier was actually the, uh, the, uh, the, the Santa Clara, what is it?

The chief executive for Santa Clara County who thought it'd be a major miracle for the NFL season to start on time. Now, you know, I'm sure there's people within the NFL that feel differently and the governor's going to have his say on it, as you mentioned. But these are not, you know, events that are just taking place in a vacuum. People are traveling for these events. Who knows what the travel restrictions are going to be in. terms of like traveling across states who knows at that point like i i kind of figured when this

all started okay well we have enough time before the nfl season but i think it's pretty safe to say that whatever world we're returning to is going to be different for a while maybe until there's you know a vaccine yeah i'm with you gregg i think it right now it's a wish it's a nice wish we would wish that the nfl season would start on time and you can continue to beat the drum of we're going to aim for 16 games. We're going to aim for all of this and maybe fan-free venues. I'm fine with, I would say this. If the Brown season started today, I would check in because why wouldn't I? What better do I have to do during big chunks of this and beyond it even being our employment? But it would matter what's happening around sports. I personally, just

personally would struggle to fall into, you know, pockets of distraction and delight around a stadium-free football game if the rest of the country is still totally melting down. I mean, I could for a bit, but it's a limited distraction. Let me pose the question to you one more time now, Mark, a week later. You could be part of the team that finds the vaccine and puts an end to all this indecision and madness and craziness. Or you could be an all-time great coach for the Browns bringing multiple titles. to believe land. Your choice.

Well, I mean, we've just discussed Fauci and his, you know, henchmen, positive henchman. So I think they've got it under. You just gave me my fantasy baseball team name if a season happens. I don't know what they need for me at this point. I still see a Brown's team that needs all those changes. So, again, B. That's a great bad name.

That is awesome. Positive henchmen. All right. Let's move on. So B, you're sticking. with a, okay. By the way, no judgment there. Just wanted to see after that conversation if that changed anything. Nothing? No, not at all.

I'm very strong in my opinion on that one. All right. Some sad news in the NFL, longtime Packers defense event, Willie Davis. He's passed away at the age of 85. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1981. First two years were spent in Cleveland with the Browns, but then he got traded to Vince Lombardi's Packers in 1960, spent a decade there, a big-time pass-rusher.

Sax didn't have become a stat, which blows my mind, but Sachs were not an official stat in the NFL until 1982. So all these greats coming off the edge in the old days, it's difficult to measure what they were if you didn't see them, but he was a big-time pass-rusher. He led the Packers to five league titles, including the back-to-back Super Bowls to start the Super Bowl era, a grambling alum and also a member of the Black College Football Hall of Fame.

So very sad news, Willie Davis dead at the age of 85 West. In your studies of the game, do you have any good Willie Davis anecdotes? There was a time when Mark and I were growing up and you would hear about the Packers' defenses from the 60s dynasty with Vince Lombardi. And the only name you would hear was Ray Nitchke, the middle linebacker who was sort of a Dick Buckus-like bone rattling menace in the middle of the defense and then you read further in willie davis and henry jordan on the defensive line dave robinson at linebacker herb adelae and willie wood in the

secondary this was a defense that was as star studded as just about any you would ever see and willie davis was a five-time all-pro maybe even the best player on that defense he would easily have the packers all-time sack record um over a hundred john terny who is a football researcher who goes back and watches games from the 50s and 60s. He said that Willie Davis has somewhere between 100 and 120 career sacks. And Davis has said Paul Horning reminded him one year that he had 25 in a season. So you're talking about one of the better sack seasons of all time. This guy was legit stud.

As if Michael Strayhan's sack record could be any more legitimate. What a joke. And he started his career. career as a Cleveland Brown. I can just imagine the 1960s version of Mark Sessler, who knew of Willie Davis as an offensive lineman for one year on the Browns, who was then traded to become maybe the best defensive end in the NFL. He was the captain of the Packers. I mean, of all these great, like he was the first black captain, a black guy being captain in Green Bay in the 60s, the leader of that team. He played for Eddie Robinson, Paul Brown, and Vince Lombardi.

I mean, that's like the Mount, I would say, on the Mount Rushmore of football coaches from that era. It's crazy. Good point. And it raises the question. And I know this would probably be far too in the weeds and take too much time. But what if you had a committee that went back and their job, you hide them away? I mean, it's almost like a CIA project. You hide them away for two or three years.

They watch every NFL game ever. and they bring us up to date on some of these sack totals. And like, what stunning results would we have from that era that are completely lost and careers and achievements completely lost because we weren't tabulating certain numbers back then? It's a great idea. The only problem was I imagine there are various telecast dark spots, right? Oh, yeah. I don't think you had, like, you know, full-fledged all 22 from like seven angles happening back then.

Right. But even one angle. I don't know. I would imagine. That's probable. I've looked up quite a bit of this stuff. Like, Ternie has Deacon Jones with a couple of seasons, 26 and 28 sacks. There's a guy who played for the Bengals in 76, 77 named Coy Bacon,

who some studies show him with like 30 sacks in a season, and then other ones have him at like 22. So there's no like agreed upon total. Also, before we move on, his nickname was Doctor. And they asked, you know, why was his nickname Doctor? He said he was called that as a child by all the women because he made him feel so good. That's honestly the best thing of Artem.

I'm so happy you brought that up because that's something I want to be heard about myself if my eulogy was delivered. Good job, Greg, putting a button on it. Not the only sad loss in the NFL fraternity. I missed this earlier this week, but I wanted to make sure to touch on it. Former Vikings and Seahawks quarterback, Tavaris Jackson,

died on Sunday night in a car crash. He was just 36 years old, 10-year NFL career, began with the Vikings, drafted in the second round of the 2006 draft, started 21 games, including a playoff game for the Vikings, but was typically a backup with them. He bounced around a little bit before leaving the league. He had been doing some staying in football, not at the pro level, but as a coach in recent years, Tavares Jackson, dead at the age of 36, and that is terrible. I would give you a little nugget related to this show and Tamara's Jackson that, you know, when we started before the podcast, we were around the league, a blogging site that kind of launched inside NFL.com and suddenly Dan and I were the initial people to write for that and had general managers and agents and players suddenly startled and annoyed at us for some of the articles coming out from that time. And the first ever around the league post was based on Tavares Jackson. I don't think it's appropriate for me to discuss what the angle of the story was, but he was the subject.

And so a little bit of podcast history attached to him. Super Bowl winner. Back up for Russell Wilson on the Seahawks team. Was he really? Wow. He was the number two. Yeah, because he started most of the season. I think it was the year before Russell was drafted.

Had about a 500 season. Had a winning season with Brad Childress and Darrell Bevel and Troy Williamson and Adrian Peterson back before that as a starter too. I have a Tavares Jackson memory. Back in 2006, the Jets and Vikings were on the schedule against each other. It was early December. And my friend Greg from back in New York is a huge Vikings fan. So we said, you know, let's do it.

Let's fly to Minneapolis. And it was both teams were in playoff contention. So it just worked out that way. luckily we had bought the tickets far in advance. So it was a week 15 games, essentially a playing game for both teams. And the Jets jump out to a big lead. It's 26 to 7. And Brad Johnson is the Vikings quarterback.

And he's not playing well. And the crowd's cheering. And they want Tavares Jackson, who was the kid that had the big preseason. They bring him in in the third quarter. It was essentially his NFL debut in meaningful football. And he led them to a touchdown drive and kind of put him back in the game. The Jets still won the game. And then afterwards, me and my buddy were walking outside the Metrodome, and there was a card and comic shop across the street from the stadium, and who's in there signing autographs?

It's Tavares Jackson, and he's in there, and everyone, the whole place is packed with a huge line, Vikings are great, that's a great fan base, of waiting, and he's sitting next to his girlfriend at the time, and I don't know if it was as a future wife. I have no idea. I know he's married to three kids. But I remember thinking at the time, wow, this, like, we're here for this guy's moment because at that time it was very clear that Brad Johnson was going to lose his job. And Jackson did take over as a starter the next week. And I made me think of that immediately because I remember seeing, like, he clearly, even though they had lost the game that he had gotten his chance and he just seemed to be in good spirit.

So it was, you know, very sad to lose Tavares Jackson this young. Total bummer. All right. But moving on, Mark, you've been waiting for this. The Browns revealed their newest jerseys, and it is one of those throwback to the future deals, and they have adopted essentially, and correct me if I'm wrong here, Mark, what is their more traditional look, the one that you grew up on in the 80s, maybe some minor differences, helmet face mask color aside.

This is the Browns uniform you've been waiting for, right? I think it'd be safe to say that 98% of Brown's fans of a certain age were hoping this is the direction they'd go in. They certainly hinted at this. I think to maybe prevent pre-reveal outrage, they made it clear, I think, for dating back to a year plus that the uniforms would return to a traditional look. I love them. I think, because I love them because they just remind me of a uniform. they should not have veered away from to begin with. Some of the more notable changes,

because if you go back to some people are saying, you know, it's just the 2014 uniforms all over again. Well, the orange and brown sock stripes are new. They did keep the matte helmet finish from the more recent debacle version, which I like. I think that was one of the only things I liked about those. It harks back to classic Brown's uniforms.

And, you know, depending on where, you sit aesthetically, I would say these are some of the better uniforms in the NFL. I'm being objective about that. They're simple. They're sparse. And in a time when, and it's not just Nike, but I think we're seeing uniforms go in these newfangled directions that are getting tagged as AFL looks or certain college looks. This is old. This is old school. This is Cleveland. And I think the response has been extremely positive. And I gave the team credit in an era where this has been a problem for them. They listened to the fans. They didn't get too cute or too creative or too off bent here. And they nailed it. I would consider it a home run at a time when the Browns

needed something. It's similar to the Bucks. When the Bucks are a bad football team, but their uniforms make your eyes bleed, you're doubling down on the pain. The Browns have removed at least the uniform aspect of this. The next part is to bring some of the traditional winning back versus five and six win disaster dramas to our house every autumn. This quote from executive vice president and co-owner J.W. Johns, I didn't know. I thought the Hazelms were the only owners, but this guy must have a minority stake. As you look at iconic franchises like the Browns, the Bears, the Packers, and the Cowboys, they're true to who they are. They're not doing a lot of changes and trying to make a lot of flashy moves with their uniforms.

Well, yeah, they should have never changed them in the first place. I understand there's always that move you want to kind of freshen things up. But when you're the Cleveland Browns, we've talked about this 100 times, Mark, there's only so many directions you can go in the first place. So going with the more historic meat and potatoes version always made the most sense for the Brown. So you understand why they gave into temptation because it seems like a really fun thing to have all these different reveals and the teams go nuts and social and with big events. I remember the Browns event five years ago when the guy got stuck underneath the

the overcoat when he's trying to pull it off and it had all the flashing lights everywhere. It was like a club scene. This is what it should always been. So they're admitting a mistake. The Browns, they do that from time to time make mistakes. And it's good that they're, you know, getting where they should be, right? Yeah, I wonder what the other people in the room think. I mean, I'm pleased.

What do you guys? How do you feel? Uniforms are a touchstone for classic franchises especially. When times are bad, they make you, like you said, harken back. to the times when they were good. And I would even, you talked about the NFL teams, the Packers, the Cowboys, the Steelers. I think the Raiders are one of those teams with a classic uniform that stand the test of time. And you could, to me, I think first of the New York Yankees, Dan's team, like the pinstripes,

and you think of the history and there's something there to grab onto as a fan. It just stands a test of time. To me, it's sort of like, this is how sports should be. You don't want your organization changing for change's sake all the time. And I think the best organizations keep things classic. No, they look great. Although, to be fair, the color rush ones, they kept also look great. And those are newer.

It feels like a home run. Congratulations, Mark. I know this was very important to you. Well, it's like if they got it wrong and there's nothing else happening, there's no other news happening, this becomes the centerpiece for four or five weeks. And then frankly, four or five years. So are you going to enjoy it? I mean, what are you doing to celebrate? How high, like, how long will this high last for you?

I mean, I'm opening up all the doors and windows in my house and I'm just to have my car running in the driveway with no one in it. The little things I can do in the current environment to show that I'm pleased. If they rolled out ugly uniforms, would you have backed that car into the garage and then closed it? I would have simply walked right into the hot zone of COVID and just said, take me away. where is that located i would find it in the hospital all right uh and speaking of the browns some news floating around there j glazer uh me and him have feuded he's not aware of it about mailbag stuff in the past uh but he's also pretty gifted uh NFL insider in the sense that when glazer says a scoop when he talks about scoopage you take it seriously because he's one of the most

plugged in guys and on tuesday night uh he teased his Wednesday night radio show, which is coming up in a few hours, a Fox football now promising, quote, big national news. I'm not kidding around. So we don't know. We'll find out by the time you listen to this. You might know what it is, but we don't know what it is. And as that scoopage has been hanging in the air, WFAN, which comes up a lot in the show,

especially recently the New York sports radio station, Mark Malusis, who works for that station, tweeted that the Browns and Vikings were in trade talks for star-wide receiver. O'Dell Beckham, here is the tweet from Malusus, who is not a plugged-in NFL media guy. You should understand this, before I even read this, that this is not scoopage. You should take seriously, but sometimes as things do come to pass. Here we go. Discussions on a trade that would send Beckham to the Vikings for a second and fifth round pick next year. Trade is not done, but the deal is being discussed.

So people are connecting the Glazer big announcement with this. I don't know about that, but it's in the air. you guys think this is something that could happen you think the browns mark would move on from beckham after one year well i mean i want to hear what what gregg has to think about the source of this number one but um i would say this that uh two things before beckham would ship to the browns and i'm someone that when i get caught up on a browns like rumor i will go deep twitter and i'll read anything that anyone puts out there and there's a lot of you're on the dark web i mean i i just i just i want to just see what's out there. And there was a lot of chatter about Beckham on a low-level plane that

no one would take seriously before it happened. So I just think that in general, stuff gets out there. I don't, I would say this was, this seemed to come more from the Vikings, according to this report. My two things is, why? Why move someone who at this point, unless you're going to go draft wide receiver, is critical to your offense? Number two, I don't think is salary is extremely prohibitive and get more value than that. If you're going to trade O'Dell Beckham, who a billion, you've just released New Jersey's, how many people right now are buying Beckham jerseys? Okay, I just watched a documentary with Kevin Stefansky, whose son is obsessed with O'Dell Beckham. That has no factor in this. But if you're going to move on from him,

I need a good explanation of why that's happening. And the value better blow people away where the lingering criticism around that would fade quickly. Well, you're not going to get the value that that the Giants got. If they traded Beckham, you're not going to get that package. I wonder if the explanation is, I wonder if the explanation, Mark, is that he's a pain in the ass and he's always hurt. But, I mean, pain in the ass feels to me, because he honestly, yeah, there were a few little things with him in a, with a team that was very dysfunctional last year.

Like, is he that big of a pain in the ass? I mean, is that something that the Browns are saying? I think it's why it wasn't on the Giants anymore. Well, but I think the media, like, is going to cling to that no matter. what. I just don't see that he if you go look at the good things that O'Dell Beckham has done in Cleveland and I'm talking about charity wise and for his teammates and other stuff. I just don't buy into the we've got to move on from this problem character on any level. I just think they have unfinished business. Like as somebody who believes in his talent and Baker Mayfield's talent,

it would be very disappointing to me if the Browns just cut the cord without us seeing like a full healthy O'Dell Beckham season and an offensive line that can block. for Baker Mayfield. And I don't want to plug Jake Glazer's show anymore because, you know, we've already brought him up four times in the last five minutes,

but he did tweet. What's the TV show, first of all? Not a radio show. That's fine. We can get a little misinformation is not a bad thing. Here's what Glazer tweeted. The news I have tonight is not transactional news,

not a player getting traded or signed. So, you know, it's probably not Beckham related. So everybody calmed down a little bit. There is a reason why no other, you know, people that cover the NFL is reporting this. because to Mark's point, I think maybe things have been floating around like on the dark web

and maybe, you know, someone like Malusus, who doesn't have as much experience is going to put that out there. That said, it doesn't seem that crazy to me that Beckham would be a guy that gets traded on draft day, especially if the Browns are sitting at that 10 spot and they have the receiver that they love. And if they got a package for Beckham, then it makes a little bit It makes more sense. Bob McGinn, who we all respect in the draft realm, and he's writing for the athletic now. I think he said that the people that he's talking to,

there are like 15 wide receivers who can legit play coming into this draft class. So if you wanted to get out from under our contract and bring in somebody on the rookie scale that you really believe. There's only two or three that you could conceivably believe, you know, would replace O'Dell Beckham. But there are those guys. Whereas most drafts, you would not have that.

Or zero. Or zero, but at least you might have a front office believing that those top guys could do something like that. All right. That's what's happening in the news. Before we sign off, I thought it would be good to check in with somebody, somebody that we haven't heard from for a while, someone who's been very busy within the walls of our company, virtual walls. as they are now, somebody who's got takes, somebody who just turned a year older, and there he is. Coming to you right now, Dave Ely.

What's up, everybody. How you doing? It's nice to see you and talk to people. Senior editor, NFL Media. Is that accurate title? Yes, that's accurate. How about you was senior editor? I mean, when you bring in a surprise guest, you really hit us with the star power here,

Dan. Listen, I think there's a lot to touch you. of the bunker one. So I mean, I'm sure I wasn't top of the list. Do you have, do you have like earphones or anything, Dave? Are you just, you're just speaking into your computer microphone? I'm looking into the company issued computer microphone. It's crisp. I'm sure. The audio's good. First of all, I want to thank you, Dave, for working so hard, keeping the desk moving for NFL.com. I just want to touch on a couple things quickly with you before we say goodbye.

Number one. Even a little more quickly because of this audio thing. Let's be honest. man i know that's not just gregg you just got a Dave what is going on with you right now you just celebrated a birthday what was it like to celebrate a birthday in deep quarantine it was interesting um I turned 33 last week uh I did a bunch of zooms with some friends

um share um pop to solo bottle of champagne that was fun oh not again yeah and You know, just trying to get us. Listeners might remember that Dave had a bottle of champagne all queued up to pop in a hot tub when the Panthers were in the Super Bowl. He worked the desk that night. Cam Newton didn't fall on the fumble. The Broncos win. And Dave then went back to his house alone and drank the champagne in a state of depression.

Month later, because I also saved it for a potential UNC National Championship. And that's when they lost their Gildovo on the last second. Oh, yeah. Curse Ball of Champagne. Not that three ball. Yeah. So a little bit of a curse champagne. But this one went down a little easier?

It was great. Okay. Speaking of Cam Newton, topic number two. And you could follow Dave Ely on Twitter at. David underscore Ely. Really good stuff. And also on Instagram at. David, no underscore Ely.

So just D-A-D-E-L-Y. There's a lot going on on that Instagram account lately. I recommend plugging in. Hmm. There you go. There's your little plug that you asked for, Dave. And then the Panthers, speaking of Cam Newton, how about the idea that you kick the hero out of town

for the guy that averages six air yards per attempt, Teddy Bricklellan? I mean, it is what it is, the new era they're rebuilding. I hope to see Cam Newton land on his feet with a good team somewhere. But if he landed on your Patriots, Greg and Erica, I think that would be fun to see. But it was sad. my mom for some reason she sent me like a care package

and she included the copy patrol observer from the day that Cam Newton was released for some reason and I'm sorry she's not on your team it was an interesting birthday present. So Ely you named your dog Cam

I did kind of much like Mark named his kid Colt are you you know with a dog you could change the name in theory right yeah what about down arrow 6.0 we're we're rebranding teddy bridgewater dan it's 18 air feet per attempt oh my gosh you guys are rough oh there he is cam that's a cute dog he's a good boy he's a good boy she she oh interesting and um i just want to touch on you have the dog and that's good to have

companionship during this situation yeah it's nice um hmm so you have the roommates to you No, I guess not if you were eating, drinking alone. We talk a lot. I took a log of everything she did one day because I was really curious about her sleeping habits. So that's kind of like the entertainment I think I was going on quarantine. Do you ever go online and take a log of everything your ex-girlfriend does in a day? No, I have not yet. I think that's more for like if it's post-June 1.

Because I think for a lot of people during this time, you might check in on what's going on social with certain people. It feels like a right time for that. Yeah. Yep. Um, maybe in the future. I don't know. It's been like, it's been 10 years. I think that'd be a little weird. Gilly, what, um, like, I, I would imagine the story is grim for this app, but what is happening, um, on Tinder in the middle of all this? Oh, great question. I don't know. I wouldn't know. You're off the dating app. How about some other dating app?

Well, I just, how about other dating? I'm on Tinder. There's other apps that I prefer. What, what's your preferred app right now? You could say it. Bumble. Bumble. Oh, yeah, Bumble's good. But what's happening? today? Is Bumble nice right now, or is it sort of a... Is it like an airport? It's a mixed bag.

It's a lot of sexting. I mean, you do what you can, you know. What it is. If you connected to somebody on Bumble, and maybe you have... Everyone knows that. If you connected to someone on Bumble and really hit it off, would you risk it all with a meeting? I would not risk my health in the quarantine times. And no should any of your viewers out there.

Very good, Dave. You keep closing doors. I don't know why you're closing any doors at this point. Anything else? I mean, I'm not long anymore. Tusha. Again, speaking with Dave, Ilya,

editor, NFL.com. Dave, again, you've been doing great work leading the team during this crisis. Thank you very much. And I would say that if you did want to reach out just to see if certain people from your past are okay, you can do that. And I don't think it's even weird. I think it's a breach of any protocol.

I appreciate it. All right. Dave. And Dave, the people that say you're working like a nine-month pregnant, Lakeisha, a little too hard. I defend you against those criticisms, but I think they're basic. I really appreciate that. Who are those people, Greg? People talking.

And one final note, the headphones of the Europeans. I can't give up the sources. A headphone to a microphone, whenever you do something like this. say what i lost you for a second don't worry about it Dave Ealy follow him on Twitter Instagram we love you buddy just wanted to check in you're looking good you're looking healthy so we're happy to we're happy to see and hear it thanks thank you appreciate it

all right thanks Dave there you go a great Dave Eelie I just thought it'd be nice to check it and Greg I saw you arched an eyebrow but um you talked about how you on our most recent show you'd like to go back to the office and get back in the Oh, yeah. That's somebody we haven't seen for a long time. The arch was completely at the audio quality. I mean, you can't come on.

You cannot come on a podcast. It was just like driving a car into, yeah, the garage or something. It was terrible. Yeah. Do you want to put that on Erica a little bit? You can do that. She's a producer. That's a little pre-production work, maybe.

Don't you dare. Don't you dare. I mean, Erica also has the power just to remove Greg from the show whenever she feels like it. Or me. Yeah. Now is a fine time. I think we're wrapping up. All right. Big show coming up tomorrow. I'm excited about this one.

Kyle Brand of Good Morning Football, the NFL Network family, one of our favorite guys. It's his first appearance on the show. And I will do a little tease on this, Chris Wessling. He has some unfinished business or something from the past that obviously was something that stuck with him that he'd like to kind of bring to the forefront on tomorrow's show. And that's what he's going to do. Nothing bad, nothing negative, but something clearly that has stuck with him that he wanted to address when he made an appearance on our podcast. So that's coming up tomorrow. You're saying this has specifically to do with me.

You are directly connected to it, yes. I am befuddled. Yeah. Nonplussed even. So nothing negative, but something clearly that's he wants to address. It feels like maybe something that's been on his conscience or what. I don't know. But Kyle reached out to me specifically to say he wanted to talk about this.

the show. And I was only too happy to say, yes, of course. Let's do it. I am for clamped, but green light. Let's go about it. So not another feud per se with a GMFB character. Definitely not a feud. I think the opposite, in fact. And then Friday, the Twitter show is back. So Thursday will be our final audio show of the week tomorrow. And then Friday, the Twitter show is back. And we have Cam Jordan, the star, superstar, Saints Defender will be joining us live on Friday. so make sure you check that out maybe oh really is that still maybe i don't know if it's confirmed go yeah but probably probably let's just say it's a go and yeah it's not it's not and he's bringing a surprise guest all right good so tune in for that dan hansis signing off for quiet storm the mailman

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