NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Bunkercast XXV: Kyle Brandt Redemption

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler are joined by Kyle Brandt to discuss all things football. The draft is quickly approaching, Dak Prescott had a party, and the first NFL player was diagnosed with Covid-19. Kyle brings back a segment that bombed so hard on GMFB involving Wess... is redemption in store?Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, Greg Rosenthal, what is up, boys? He's, hey, Dan. Another day, another day. Not the only hero joining us today. Oh, yeah. He starts every day saying, Good morning football. His resume is weirder than yours.

He can destroy you at Techmo Bowl. Making his debut appearance on the Around the NFL podcast, please welcome Kyle Brent. This thing got sexy fast, guys. Is this the lethal weapons soundtrack? What is this that we're listening to? My favorite thing about this guitar solo is that it's turned into a roar shock test. Essentially.

People hear what they want to hear. Peter Schreger, your colleague on Good Morning Football. What are you here? Kyle. He heard Emmanuel in space. He heard 1995 Cinemax. Chris Wesleying, I believe, hears, or maybe with someone else, the 90s Chicago Bulls.

The Bulls entrance music. Well, you know what Shreger has been doing during quarantine, I guess. I heard rings and Murtaugh, the original lethal weapons soundtrack. I thought you pulled that on me. And I appreciated it. I would have gone Red Shoe Diaries in retrospect. That's a great call, though, because you could totally see, you know, Mel Gibson, introspective, brooding, drunk after something bad happens and that rolling.

I get that. What's up, Kyle? Listen, I'm so excited to be here. The five of us have been part of the NFL media group for years, and this is the first invite I've gotten. So I can tell you guys are huge fans. And I'm really, really glad to be here. It's criminal.

It's criminal that we haven't had you. on yet. I have no idea why it hasn't happened and it's well overdue, but we're so happy that you said yes. And we're probably now, once we've gone and taken this step, we're probably going to ask you all the time. So if there's any like resentment on your end, just start sticking it to us by hitting us with the, you know, hand in the face. There's no problem. I can tell this is already the hippest show because we have five guys on here and not a one of us has wireless headphones. We all have wired headphones. Like I should have the foam orange ear coverings. Like, Marty McFly.

This is going to be great, guys. Five white guys on wire headphones. I was going to say, that was maybe your obstacle for barrier. Adding another white guy to the mix just feels like a little too much. It's a lot. Yeah, it's very, it's very, uh, 1999. But it's very good to have you here, Kyle. And good morning football.

And we talked about it a lot on this show. And I was lucky enough to be part of the show. And just a small way last season for the first time. The, you guys share, you know, the DNA of our show. So I can guarantee you if you're a listener to the around the NFL podcast and you can access good morning football. You should watch it because it will become addictive in short order. I really think Kyle, and I love everybody on the team. But Kyle, you are a creative driver of that show.

We all know it. And you do such awesome work. So we're pumped to have you here. And we all love you. Thank you very much. I remember the first time I listened to this podcast. I remember what episode it was. The content for the first episode I listened to, it was a few years ago, and it was a very odd story about, you guys will remember, when Tony Romo announced that he was done, there was that weird night where he suited up for the Dallas Mavericks.

Remember that? And you guys were going at it, and I saw it flashed across Twitter. I'm like, I want to hear what they have to say about that. And I loved it. And I've been listening ever since. Can you imagine that being my first episode? Completely forgot about it. Whatever I had to the Romo.

I don't know what. Maybe he just drank himself into a gutter. I've never heard his name since. It's crazy. It's a good call. I still think it was a shame that they never played him in that game. It was a half measure where you can suit up instead of put him in the game. And I want to see somebody just lock him down and embarrass him because everything works out for Romo.

I wanted to see it could block that he just sat there and smiled the whole time. That's true. He was in the layup line, right? Wasn't it the whole thing? Warmups, uniform. He was on the team, but I never put him in the game. So odd. Wait, he was active?

Yeah, I mean, look, he had a uniform and warm-ups on. He was on the bench, you know, next to Dirk or whoever. He didn't. Yeah. He wasn't filling out that jersey as much as some of the NBA players. No. Let me ask you this question, Kyle. You're a married man, happily married.

Yeah. I am happily married as well. But my wife has a story during her post-college days living in Dallas, getting a knock on her door. And it was a tall man, a rookie for the Dallas Cowboys, unknown, not playing named Tony Romo. and according to my wife he asked for a Band-Aid and my wife gave him the Band-Aid and that's how the story

ends for me should I believe that that was the full story. Well is can I have a Band-Aid? Is that like a euphemism for something? I don't know. I took the story at face value but it's like time passes, I wonder sometimes. Yeah, well listen, maybe so.

I'm glad that that is not my wife's story. It sounds like it sounds like the start of a red shoe diaries. The doorbell came and there's Tony Romo looking for a band-aid. Dan, I would put it at a strong 97 percentile probability that something nefarious happened in the story you're getting is just part of the story, a skinny. Yes. But then we know anything about Tony Roma. He couldn't close.

So like that ending, he left with a clavicle injury. Ah, yes. All right. Awesome to have you here. Great to be here. We are going to, you have some business to settle. We're going to tease it here at the top picture. We're going to get to it at the bottom, something from the past that connects you to the show, and specifically to Christoph Wessling.

Yes. I'll tease it like this. I have a feeling there's a Star Wars vibe in this room. I certainly have it. I remember when they first came out with episode seven, and it was the first one with Kylo Ren, and everything. Just you and Mark. So remember the first line in the episode seven was the very first line was a wrong will need to be righted. And some line like that, and it was basically people were saying, they're alluding to the prequels and how bad they were and they're going to fix them.

We need to fix something here on the show as it relates to certainly one of the hosts and as it relates to me. There's a wrong that needs to be righted. I understood the parallel and I thought it was a very strong one. The other three people on the show are they're going to have to do a little bit of research off there to get a very strong point made by Kyle Brant there. What do you guys? What are you going to do? I don't know. They're kind of too cool for it.

is the same thing. But I have to say, I do get the ref that the 99 movie, which is the only one I've seen in the theater, was an abomination. Terrible. And then no one liked the other ones either. So those three movies, I tracked it. I was tracking that.

I clocked it. I'm all in on it. We're good. I just wonder which one of you has the right. It's going to be one of you guys. No, more than getting drunk and making bad decisions, not like sci-fi. Okay. What was the 99 movie called that?

Phantom Menace. Phantom Manus. I remember sitting in the theater and not really being into Star Wars, but it was such a huge cultural event, being like, all right, let's fly. Let's see what happens here. And then within about seven minutes, thinking to myself, this is one of the worst decisions I've ever made.

Well, it's a shame that that's the only one that you paid a ticket for. I remember being five or six minutes into that thinking, this has to be a practical joke. I tugged the friend in who had never seen it. And, you know, there's this hideous Jar Jar-Jar Banks character in there. And he just kept hitting me. He's like, who is this horsey figure walking around?

I said, I don't know. I'm horrified. You know, I don't know what's happening here. And I'm always more disappointing. Was the Phantom Manus more disappointing or the Jay Glazer news that he promoted and then broke this week? Which one? It's a tight race. It's a tight race.

That is a great. That is a great tease to get into the news. Yeah. So let's do it. Ricky. Among the last six picks taken, a familiar name if you're a college football fan. Tom Brady, the quarterback who all he did was lead this football team, put them in the right position more times than that. And when he got pulled from the game and Drew Henson came, he.

in, Michigan football was not as good as it was when Brady was in. No question. No question. Yes, it was 20 years ago today that Tom Brady was drafted by the New England Patriots. I know a lot of people don't know this, but it was 199 overall in the sixth round. And how, you know, when you're that deep in the draft, we all know how draft coverage goes. It gets a little spotty in the back end. Tom Brady was drafted during a commercial break.

straight up how about Tarrico on the call there Torrico a full head of hair Durrani was a day day three definitely a Michigan guy and a big spot

there by Tariko has been doing it for a long time and all right a little quiz the six quarterbacks drafted before Brady in 2000 Kyle Brandt well Chris Redmond

for sure I have a first person story about Chris Redmond too I'm just going to interrupt the break your format and say it about three years ago I was on a family vacation

we were in like a warm weather area around a hotel and i'm walking down the beach by myself i'd had some dacarees and it was my wife was with the kids and i'm just sitting there my feeder in the water and i look and i see this tall guy this crew cutter guy and i go is that chris redmond and i walked up to him this is about three years ago i was on good morning football at the time and i go excuse me you're chris redmond right he goes yeah how you doing and we're talking and i'm half drunk and and i just i kind of just go so dude like how much does the brady and the draft thing come up and he goes every day on my life and what can I do every day in my life and I go well I guess I'm the guy

today yes I was the guy but he's like what can I do I had a nice career I did everything I could do and I thought he had a great attitude about it so I ran into him every day of his life and now we brought it up here chris redmond that's Chad pennington Giovanni carmazzi Chris redman T martin mark bulger and Spurgeon win so can be started on Spurgeon win and let me all but you know pennington was the first off the board to the jets around 20 overall 25 that range. My favorite Jet quarterback ever, one of those what-if guys, kind of like you're Greg Cook, West, maybe not at that level skill-wise, natural skills, but he really was tracking to have an excellent career, but the shoulder injuries just derailed it. And he still, even with those

injuries, one comeback player of the year twice and had a really nice career, but it's a what could have been in Jets history, Mr. Pennington. All right. And by the way, if you're watching this clip on social, you'll see that in addition to the Princeton, photos in the background, which I imagine a young Kyle Brandt is in those because he played collegiately there. All right. So can we get into this? Yeah, I just want to say you're wearing a Brady jersey with the Buck's jersey.

I got a Brady jersey, the goats, the three goats in the Godwin jersey, right? No, it's the new. It's the Brady and everything. Did they send you on? I had a lot of trouble with my background. Yes. The Buccaneers sent me a damn jersey. But I have pictures of myself, which if you ever watch Good Morning Football, I am extremely low to

ever bring up my college playing career because I'm on the same network with Ladani and Tomlinson and Terrell Davis and I just don't, I have other stuff I want to talk about. I just don't do it. I have nothing to put back there. I tried this Walter Payton picture that was really cool and they shot it down because it was a copywritten photo. I've tried all these cool pop culture things can't do it. I keep getting shot down. So I'm like, you guys, I have to put up pictures of myself, which is like the douchiest move of all time. But other than that, it's just these crappy closets that are encasing my hot water heater in my hostage chamber basement. So that's all I got.

I'm sorry. I know it's lame, but I have nothing else. I'm sorry. I'd be hanging out posters of myself if I played on any level of college football. I think lean into it. Would Schrager be apologizing? No, he'd be saying what a badass he is, you know? You know what, Greg?

I was thinking about something. I have photos of my three good morning football co-hosts in different athletic endeavors, different points of their life. I have a picture of Peter Schroger on like the fourth grade swim team in a speedo. and I was going to print all those pictures and put them here and Kay is like playing volleyball and Nate's doing whatever he's doing but the Schreger like grape smuggler picture is unbelievable I'm even going to try to pull it up as we're talking so I can show you guys

I mean Shregor and I are very tight I have to ask did his athletic career go beyond fourth grade in the in the pool no it didn't go on before grade anywhere and the funny thing about Shregers Shregers easily 6-3 he's coordinated I've played Catch with them. You start to play catch with a football. You can tell he's coordinated. And I'm like, Peter, you're so obsessed with football. You're so big.

Why did you not play tight end or something in high school at least? And wasn't, I mean, in my high school, the coach would, like, run down anyone in the hallway who was kind of big or had like, it was tall. I was like, where was your coach? Because Peter, you could have maybe done something with this. He just had no interest. Never wanted to play the game. And when you know how you do photo shoots at different, you know, the NFL media things,

they want you to take a picture in your suit or whatever. They always have a ball. there's always a ball on the set and they want you to take the ball and like hold it and toss it and everything Peter will not touch the ball ever he refuses to touch it

and the photographer's I was like hey Peter let's get a cup with the ball I won't touch it and I won't do that I'm looking at my phone because I have so many contacts things I feel like he's told us this story it's so important to him that he's relayed the story

so I always make sure that when he's doing his pictures I throw him the ball and make him catch it and then I tell the photographer when he's holding the ball take the picture just to torture him. There's more to the story.

A lot. There's a lot in the sub-genre of Peter Schrager. Wow. Yeah. I'm going to find the picture. Yeah. Keep looking at it. Grape smuggler.

Is that what you referred to it is? Yes, I did. The look? Okay. Yeah, we say plum smuggler. Plums. Well, you take plums. You know, all right.

Listen, Jay Glazer said he had a huge scoopage and everyone connected it to the lame floated report by the moose over WFAN that the Vikings and Browns were closing in on an Odell Beckham trade. Well, everything we're hearing from plugged in people in the industry say that's not a real thing. And then Glazer comes on a show and says his big scoop is that RAM center, Brian Allen, tested positive for the coronavirus. A RAM spokesman confirmed the diagnosis on Wednesday, adding that Allen felt symptoms, but is now feeling much better.

He's 24 years old. He's the first active NFL player to publicly acknowledge that he's tested positive for the virus. If you were expecting a huge NFL transaction scoop, it wasn't that. But it is notable the first NFL player with coronavirus. Thankfully, it doesn't look like it's one of these serious cases. The most memorable thing I think about this story is it's the first time I can ever remember Jay Glazer getting dumped on. Like, Jay Glazer's had, it's really a credit to Jay Glazer that he's had this great a career that I can't think of another time where people are just mad at Jay Glazer for,

overselling something. He never gets things wrong. Or, you know, in this case, people just thought like, this wasn't enough. You know, you feel for Brian Allen, but I understand that. I think he misread the room because it's a, it is an important story. And obviously, coronavirus is what everyone has talked about. And it's the biggest thing in the world. But I don't know, maybe there's a bit of a, people are so used to hearing people have it now that it's not something that floors people. And it just, and people were looking for the big NFL news story. So they hit out it. I'm going to give glazer pass is what I'm trying to say. I understand where he was going with it and people just wanted something else. The tone was a little off. It's like,

hey, everyone wait around until, you know, X, Y, and Z Pacific Standard Time for this big announcement. It's going to be a fun one. Then it's like, this person has caught the pandemic. I, it kind of threw me in the wrong direction. All right. He graded his job. I'm not sure this qualifies his scoop. The Rams did have to close down their facility. It does raise some questions like They didn't answer why they closed their facility a little earlier than everyone else. So it kind of answers that. He also said he didn't have the ability to taste Brian Allen for two and a half weeks. He tested positive twice, I think two or three weeks apart.

So even for someone as healthy as that, it's taken him a while to shake it. The glazer thing, Dan, was he called a shock. Like when you go on Twitter and say, huge news tomorrow, we are in an era where we're all dying for something to react to. or a story or like just give us anything and then I was like who the hell's Brian Allen I had I had I don't know I was not familiar with that player I understand he's from the chicago area and he's a meat potatoes type of guy it did make me wonder you obviously wish health and wellness for everyone who is the NFL figure that if glazer said he had corona and he's okay now who is the person that would have blown Twitter's hair back and be like oh my god there's a crazy story

Because I do have an answer in mind. Antonio Brown? That's their answer? I'd go Tom Brady because he is the health and wellness guru that apparently can't catch any sort of. The common cold has no idea who Tom Brady is. Greg? Yeah, I mean, Belichick, you're making a good point that really people were mad that it was Brian Allen. If it was a big star, then people would be fine with it.

It's not exactly the NFL's Tom Hanks. Brady's my guy as well. I think, listen, I think the answer is simple. And Dan, I hate to bring this up. Yeah. If it was Sam Darnold, that would be really that's true. We can't have Sam Darnold being the guy. I mean, any other player in the league after what went down last year.

And obviously, I don't wish that anybody. But then, speak as a Jets fan. Donald and Corona and, okay, he's not fine now. But Jesus. I'm putting him in a bubble. And I'm just taking him out of the league. I'm saying you were supposed to be the shining sub. But now your wellness is more important.

He stays in a bubble for 70 years. Yes. You get a lot of that out indefinite. with coronavirus and Sam Darnold pointing at the camera. Exactly. Don't tease me with surprises in this era, all right? If my wife tells me I ordered something incredible for you online and it's more bath pals, like you can't mess with my emotions in this era.

And I think that's what Jay was going. All right, we're hitting Glazer with the L. Moving on, here's some more trade rumors out that this one floated by former NFL executive, former colleague of yours. I know you had a good relationship with the Mark. Mike Lombardi was told by a league source that the Bucster. looking to trade tight end O.J. Howard, former first round pick, a guy who really flashed in the 2018 season before going down. And then 2019 was a huge disappointment, West, where

he couldn't get going. I believe he had some injury issues and maybe fell out of favor in the Bruce Ariens regime. So if this Lombardi report tracks and is indeed accurate, this is a young and talented guy that maybe just has not been able to get his footing in the NFL yet. The timing seems all off on this one. It's a year too late. You know, Every person in America who plays fantasy football said Bruce Ariens doesn't use tight ends last year. They should trade O.J. Howard while he still has a lot of value coming off a very promising 2018 season. And now it's like Tom Brady, who was used to throwing passes to a six foot seven highly athletic tight end for 10 years, now has another six foot seven highly athletic tight end and the bucks want to get rid of him.

I don't get the timing. I don't really look at Michael Lombardi the same after that ugly clash he had with Scott Hansen on Twitter this offseason. So it's tough for me to take this trade news and you embrace it in the same way that I normally would because I'm just Team Hansen. Team Hansen all the way. Awesome clash. My favorite clash in a long time. You almost have to wonder if Howard, I mean of all places could wind up. I can think of a team that Brady is linked to that needed the tight end desperately.

Why not New England? and suddenly the guy Brady should be throwing too. I mean, also anything that Mike Lombardi reports, I have to feel like there's a little Patriots angle or shade to it somewhere. Then there's no tight ends in this class, apparently. So you would think someone would give something for him. Hey, Greg, lest anyone not be aware of it, could you just remind us what the Hanson-Lombardi feud was?

Because I'm a big handsome guy, too. Yeah. Well, I recommend go back to Twitter. Okay. You know, search these two names. Titans. I believe Lombardy had a comment on his podcast. Oh, no.

It was a diatribe. Essentially said Scott Hansen doesn't know anything. And Scott Hansen shouldn't be giving any criticism about play calling or when to call timeouts. And Scott Hansen, just read your little teleprompter and do the news for me because that's where you're at in the world. And Scott did not take it well. It was a beautiful thing. Good job by Scott pushing back. Good job.

I mean, he has seven hours of commercial free football guys. That ain't easy. I love Scott Hans. Yeah, because Mike Lombardy is unimpeachable when it comes to takes on football and getting things right and wrong. Right, Mark Sessler? Well, I agree with whatever the host of our show says. Like petty Twitter squabbles are one of my favorite sporty events. Me too.

In other news, come out, you know, come back to us, Dak Prescott. He held a social gathering over the weekend. There's no social gatherings right now. I don't care if you keep it under 10 or if it's over 10. Just nicks it. Everyone else is eating the poop right now. You do too, Mr. Quarterback. Anyway, he held a party, and Zeke Elliott was also there.

And Dak is upset because he thinks it's been blown out of proportion by the media and by idiots like me, saying it wasn't more than 10 people. It wasn't out of control. It wasn't a rager. But Stephen Jones said Tuesday in an interview with the fan. Dallas, that he talked to both Prescott and Elliot about not conducting gatherings while most of the country remains under quarantine. Prescott released a statement. Where do you come down on this, Mark? Dak, you angry with him? You furious? No, I'm not furious. I think two things.

The Jane Slater followed up to report that some of the images that showed this sort of swanky, you know, bizarre-looking party center was actually a local restaurant called Nick and Sams that she's been to and they actually took their own photos of the spread they sent to DAC. With all these things in general, it's like, you know, and I, if someone were to, from a PR angle, examine what I did from age 22 to 28, it would be a horrific story for the nation to follow along. But in general, like, let's try to stay, let's just like not get in our own way while the entire country is gripped by the biggest health-related news story of our lifetime.

you're Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliott hanging around eating, you know, lamb wings or whatever it is they're eating. It's like just, why do this? How about do this virtually? Humans eat chicken wings when they go. I'm just saying, well, who knows? We don't know what was on the menu.

I might be right. Do I have to stop going to my neighbors? I have to stop going to my neighbor's front yard every day at five o'clock and sitting eight feet across from each other. You're sitting eight feet across from each other. You're not having a party inside your house, which you're all having dinner at the same table. He said less than,

fewer than 10 people, right? I mean, it's kind of hard to keep track of the rules and get a handle on severity when the message is so mixed from leaders at the national state and cable news levels. We have Dr. Fauci telling people that, hey, take a swing on Tinder if you need to. He basically said it on that podcast that we mentioned. If you're willing to take the risk, go down that Tinder Avenue. Fauci said, shoot your shot is basically what he said. You know, it's a dangerous time in the quarantine because this is,

kind of a screw it time meaning someone might be like, I'm sick of this, screw it. Like I'm tired of doing this. I'm going to have my friends over. I've been doing this for weeks. It's tired. I want to see my girlfriend, whatever it may be. It's sort of the screw it period. And I think maybe that's what Dak got into. My

question, why is Dak hosting anything? He shouldn't be hosting. That means he has to pay for food and drinking everything. There's like six different people on the Cowboys that should be hosting a party. Zeke should be hosting. The Marcus, Jalen, all of those guys who have been paid,

I picture Dak at his front door charging $20 a solo cup to come in. He's the last guy who should be hosting. They should be hosting him. It's fair. Right? There you go. It's not the end of the world, but it's also, Wes, like, days after he's out working out with Des Bryant

and everyone's got their arms around each other. And at some point, yeah, you're young and you make mistakes. Again, it's not the end of the world. But you're also like an example for everyone tracking Dak Prescott in the state of Texas. And, like, if it's cool that he's just going out, like, basically living his life as he normally does, then other people think that they can, too. Moving on. Let's head to the desert, Greg.

I know you like it out there. You don't like it nice and dry. You're like Saul Goodman walking out there. When it rains. I do. I like, I kind of am, like, a, like, that's the Jew in me. I like it 95 degrees and just dry. Like, give it to me.

Heat. Nice, Greg. All right. So, Caesar Sport. Sportsbook released their NFL win totals and playoff odds for all 32 teams. Greg, since you're good at this, the Patriots open with a win total of hit it. Eight and a half. Well, you told me, right?

Eight and a half. Show business, baby. But I think on this very show a few weeks ago, a Twitter listener get, I pointed out, I guessed eight and a half. So that was right, right about that's like you're like the 12th best team in the league. You're on the borderline of a playoff spot. So that seemed about right. Brady's new team, the Bucks, open with a win total of nine. Very interesting.

The two highest win totals, 12 each, the Chiefs and the Ravens. And, Kyle, you guess the teams with the two lowest win totals, it's set at four and a half are four and a half. I mean, I guess you can still look at Cincinnati. Are they in, are they have four and a half? No, the number one pick is going to do that much? Is it, um, is it, um, is it a, Miami? It is not Miami. It is an AFC South, the Jacksonville Jaguars, and the Washington

Redskins, so not a lot of hope in the desert. Well, what that tells me is Kyle has been adhering to the NFL's don't gamble on football policy. Smart. That's good. Can't do it. I don't even, this overrunner, I even know what the hell you guys are talking about. I'm not even sure what that means. I'm trying to just play along and be a good guess, but I'm lost right now. You're off the hook. And we're not sure Greg is adhered to that policy on any way. I am perfectly adhering to that policy. My weight gain has been over under like 16 and a half pounds over the last month. That's what I know.

Topstein. All right. You know what? Let's get in. I know get that club gear on. Hopefully it still fits because we're heading into the kicker club. Let's go. All right.

Guys, Kai, four bath, already on the roster. Cowboys bring in Greg Zirline on a three-year contract. And first thought, two words, Wes, when Zerline comes in, your first thought on Kai, four-bath, two words, not Kai's Kai? Free Kahn. He gone, free Kai. Free Kha! Hashtag, free Kahn. And, you know, that is the situation.

But guess what? Everyone thinks that Zerline's the favorite. Zirline, he's speaking out on it. Well, first I want to... Here's the quote from Zerline on the kicker competition. Ideally, I win. Okay?

But, Ricky, use that other thing I sent you now. Could sound like this. Ideally, I win. I just... That's how I imagine drag the leg. It's incredible. Production value here. I'm blown away when I saw the wired headphones.

I figured you guys wouldn't have anything. This is really good, though. I like that we're talking kickers. Any time I talk kickers on the network, I get made fun of. I really, I like talking kickers because they just get crap down all the time, but it's like they're the ones that put people in the Hall of Fame. They're the ones put people in the Super Bowl. Every time I try to bring it up, I get laughed at.

This is, I feel at home, I feel at home, especially a club. You pick the right show, Kyle. Thank you. Let's head back into the club. Your thoughts, Wes? Who do the Cowboys think they're kidding you? Right. With this competition, they give one guy guaranteed millions,

a former All-Pro to come in and take the job in Kai Forbath, who have, what, 10 kicks for them last year, as some kind of token of loyalty, they're letting him do the cut. If you want to be loyal to Kai Forbath, set him free, let him go kick for someone else. Right line's your kicker. I feel like if there's one truism of any kicker battle, if a team gave any guaranteed money,

If you gave even $50,000 to one kicker, he's winning the job. They gave Greg Zerlein a million dollars guaranteed. It's over. There's no chance. And Kyle, I tease that this is the right show for you to join us. Oh, yes. We have a child. Hello.

My son comes in quietly every time. We don't let him speak. Walker? What's up? Walker, how are you doing, bud? You like kickers, Walker? Walker, do you like kickers? You a big fan of kickers and two, you know, the field goals and whatnot?

Wet not. Cat's got his tongue here. A born broadcaster. Will you guys indulge my kicker fetish just in doing around the horn? Do you guys each have an all-time favorite kicker in the NFL? Just give me one. I do. As an old school Browns fan, I'll go Matt Barr, who when I would get annoyed,

when he would, you know, flub the occasional kick, very reliable, good kicking family, Matt Crossbar. All right. I mean, I'm a Patriots fan. It'd be a little weird to say anyone but Adam Venetary. I feel like the most overrated kicker of the 21st century, a fellow lefty like me, David Acres of the Eagles who would, there were years where he was getting 150 points every year.

Yes. Justin Tucker is the best player in the league if you factor in how much better he is than anyone else that's his competition. Like Justin Tucker is better at kicker than like Julio Jones is at wide receiver. That's what you're saying. And I agree with you. That's where I say. My guy growing up, I was a Bears fan in the 80s was Kevin Butler.

I loved Kevin Butler, but I really fell in love with the guy who won my first ever fantasy championship. Do you remember in the mid-2000s what a heater Jeff Wilkins of the Redons was on? He would give you 25 fantasy points a week. It was so awesome. So I love Wilkins. Love you, my man, wherever you are. All right. We're staying in the club because, yes, you're very lucky man.

We're now going to do a quick draft breakdown of who you need to know about from the kicker position. Hit the music again, Ricky. The number one prospect. By the way, COVID-19 hasn't shut down the boot factory operating in the Peach State right now. Sure. Because you got Rodrigo's Blankenship from Georgia. We got Tyler Bass from Georgia Southern, both guys that could go on day three. I'm not saying anybody's going to go day one or two, but day three.

Blankenship, he's a heavy favorite to be the first kicker off the board. Top-rank kicking prospect back by a majority of draft experts out there. He's got a big leg. Hit six of nine kicks from 50 plus last year. Drilled a 55-yarder against Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl in 2018. Touchback machine. Bass is a nice player, nice prospect. Keep an eye on him.

He did really well in the senior ball. Now, I want to throw a couple more guys out there. Ricky Aguayo, the brother of Roberto Aguayo. Oh. He had his own... No, I don't have the energy for this. Yeah, he had his own career at Florida State, not as celebrated. He also had some fights with fratpros.

I remember that? And there was a turtle that didn't make it out of it. It feels like actual points for that. But he is in the mix this year. Also, speaking of Adam Venetieri, Chase Venetieri, out of South Dakota State, the same school that Adam went. Chase is the son of Chad Venetieri, Adam's older brother. Whoa.

He's a quality kicking prospect. He went to UCLA right in our backyard here. Keep an eye on him maybe as an undrafted free agent. Maybe is a Mr. Irrelevant? Just keep your eye. Well, it checks all over that. I mean, the Patriots drafted their last hicker in the fourth round. They're not shy.

Jan, please tell me you have like a Vladimir Janikowski coming down the pipeline. Is he also in the bloodline? Because the way this is going, I feel like you're about to drop that on us. I would love to have that. I don't know if Sebastian Procreated, but he could have a family member. Nobody that's popped up yet. And just one more fun fact. For you, Greg, Chase attended Super Bowl's 36 and 38 when Adam made game-winning

field goals he was in the stands i mean the man adam hit a kick in the snow to close down a stadium to start the greatest dynasty in sports history no one's ever gonna talk that no one's and and don't forget adam vittieri undrafted i believe he played in the world league before we're getting that getting his shot all right yes now that was a trip to the kicker club that was that was a long one so we can gather in that club um and discuss kickers but we're killing Jack Prescott for having a few people over for nerds. Well, that's fair. That's fair.

We haven't yet put in the testing procedures that are necessary, but we just like to party with the kickers. All right. Moving on. That's what's happening in the news. All right. How do you want to get into this, Kyle? I want you to maybe take the reins here

and take us through where your headspace is at, something that was important enough to you, something that's really never happened in all my years doing the show when I talked to a guest that's coming on. You reached out to me and said there's something we need to talk about. Let's get into it. There's a great wrong that needs to be made right. When we started Good Morning Football in 2016, we started doing a segment that we called the Nerd Bowl.

And the Nerd Bowl was, in essence, a trivia contest where we would take Schrager and he would go against a producer or a statistician or someone like that, nerd, a term of affection that you love football so much. You're a nerd for it. And Peter was tearing everybody apart and he would always beat them and always beat them. So we went to Houston We went to Houston before the infamous Patriots Falcons Super Bowl And we did a live show in front of a live audience And our schick that day was

We're going to do a nerd bowl And Peter's going to say I'll take on anybody in this crowd They can come out of the crowd Right up here right now And I'll take on anybody Well, we had a plant It was a work

And that plant, yes, was on this podcast right now And his name was Chris Wesleyan And he came up and he was an incredibly good sport and what ensued was the most terrible disastrous segment in any show ever that's ever been done

in history. We pitched this as Schreger and Wesley know everything. They are experts. They know every little detail of football. We proceeded to ask them like 12 trivia questions and I don't know if they got any of them right. Every single one was wrong.

Kyle, here's a sample. Here's a sample of how it went. You got audio, go ahead. That's the low-hanging What was that second one, Chris? Well, we don't want to play the questions here, Dan, right? No, we're not. I'm going to know it. Unfortunately, I have to call time on you.

We've got to move the Nerbil fast. Peter, would you like to steal? I don't know. Honestly, I'm going to guess. I'm going to take a random guess. I don't think he actually won't. No, it's not right. Peter, way to show up for your A game in Houston.

It's Courtney Upshaw. You can hear the frustration in your voice there. The segment just wasn't seeing, Kyle. The Good Morning Football staff still talks about that segment, about how terribly produced it was. And let me make it clear. The questions were way too hard, way too hard. Or were they?

We're going to find out today. I have in my hand the actual questions that Schrager and Wesley were asked on that fateful day in January of 2017. Get ready for like, who made the game-winning field goal in week four of a 1983 game? These are the questions that your producers came up with. And Chris, there was no false.

of your own. I know. Because in my house we talk about this segment too and we talk about the Good Morning Football staff and the esoteric arcane nature of these questions which trivia is supposed

to be fun. This is really trivial. Nobody cares about any of these questions. So who brings it up? When you talk about it in your home, West, do you bring it up or Keisha just everyone's just... Me and all my good time friends. That damn segment. It's a black eye on our show. So guys,

Here's what I'm going to need right now. I'm going to need two contestants that are going to get the same questions that Chris and Peter got. I will ask them, who wants to play? Chris, you're ineligible, but the other three, who wants to play? I'd love to try. All right, Dan, you're in. Dan, and who do we got, guys? I mean, I assume I'm going to come out looking.

If Wes and Schrager can't get any, I just feel like I've got nothing to lose. Greg, maybe we could each go halfway, but I'll throw my hat the ring. It's going to be Dan versus Mark, and Greg, I need you to help me keep. deep score. Can Greg be a lifeline? How about Greg's life line? Sure. I got to wet my whistle for it. Hold on. I mean, Wes could be a life line. We're going to need an indexed encyclopedia.

Here we go. The first question, and this is the same question that we asked on that day. I love you got the music. Are we buzzing in here? How is this going to write it on? No, no, this is just for Dan. This is just for Dan. You always get your own question. You've got an opportunity to steal. Dan hands this. Now, let me preface this. All of these questions, remember, it's January

2017, and they're all about the Falcons and the Patriots. They're all based on them. Here we go. Dan Hansis, your question. When Atlanta last defeated New England in 1998, which Falcons' tight end caught two touchdowns? I'm going to say Algae Crumpler. That is incorrect. Mark, would you like to steal? Not particularly. I'd like to steal.

Any guess? Now, I want to point out, this is one of the only questions that Chris got right. So, Mark, do you have no guess? 98. 98, Falcons tight end, two touchdowns against the Patriots. It was not L.J. Crumpler. That felt good about that answer. Jock Robertson.

That is incorrect. Neither one of you guys get the point. Chris, what is the real answer? I believe it's O.J. Santiago? Yes, it is. Nice little playoff. Santiago. Greg, didn't get that.

That's impressive on its own. All right. So that was the one. that Chris got. Now, your next question, Mark, for you. Name the only Patriots to win a Super Bowl as a player and later as a coach with a different team. A head coach? A coach, assistant coach. And stop clarifying. Just answer. All right. Um, wow. I feel good about this one, too. Okay, Dan feels like he's going to steal if you don't get it right. He won the Super Bowl as a Patriot player

and then won a Super Bowl as a coach with another team, the only one to do it. Who is it? I don't know. You got nothing. Dan, would you like to steal? No, I actually got it. No, I had it mixed up in my head,

but I was going to say Pepper Johnson, but that's not it. Greg, do you have a guess? I should know this, but I don't. The answer, my friends, Peter Strager that day guessed Don Hasselbeck, which is wrong, Wesleying guest Raymond Barry, which is wrong. The answer is Larry Izzo. Larry Izzo, yes.

How did you guys not know that? It makes sense when I hear the answer. Wes, is there a sense of vindication washing over you as everyone else stumbles here? This is going exactly how I remember it. All right. I mean, how do they... I mean, how did they think that Don Hasselbeck won a Super Bowl or Raymond Barry as a member of the Patriots? At this point, they didn't even understand the question.

Wait, let's do a couple more. Trigger's a proud man. When you go to commercial break after the second, segment bombs, and Wes is a good sport, and you send Wes off? Is Schrager steaming? Does he, is he saying you guys made me look bad in front of the live audience? Peter was probably berating me and the staff for making the questions too hard. Cut that from this.

No, don't. All right, next question. I mean, I'd be the same one. I like that you thought about how to answer that. Going into the Super Bowl, if he throws two interceptions in this Super Bowl, Tom Brady will tie which quarterback for the most playoff interceptions in NFL history?

Interesting. It'd have to be a guy that played a ton against, most likely. Who played many playoff games, was airing out a lot, would have some games. I don't think he was a great quarterback, so I don't think he had a lot of messy games,

but he played so many. I'll say Jim Kelly. That is not correct. Would you like to steal, Mark? I would. I'm going to go, Peyton Manning. That is also not correct. This is my point. Here, Chris at the time gets Bart Starr, which is not right. Schrager guest John Owey, which is not right. The answer is Brett Farr, guys. Brett Fav, most playoff. So we're just bottoming out here, and we're going to crescendo.

I'm not going to kill that question. That question was reasoned. It's not a bad question. Not a bad question. All right, how about this? How about just a really simple one? This is very simple. There's no time history. Here we go, guys. This is for you, Mark. Where did Falcons wide receiver and return man? Eric Weems play college football?

What? I will go University of Georgia. That is incorrect. Dan, would you like to steal? Eric Weems. You know, such a... Better not be Googling there, Dan. Powerful name.

He googled. Just the way he's building this up. He Googled this. We've done too many shows. together. The Dan starts acting. I think it was a Bethune Cookman, was it? Wow! Yes, he went to Google Cookman. Yes, the answer is Bethune Cookman.

Really well done with the sleight of hand, hands us. He thought he might get away with that answer. Chris, did you remember that Eric Weems went to Bethune Cookman? Because at the time, you guessed Eastern Michigan and Schroger guessed Akron. Did you remember a Bethune Cookman? I do not remember that.

That is an impossible question. Now, Wes, I mean, he was the guy at the time It kind of mattered. Bethune Cookman, we're going to do this show four years from not going to ask again. Should we crescendo now with the lightning round? All this is is six very fast irreverent questions, and whichever of the two of you says the answer first gets the point. Are you guys ready?

I would suggest these questions are not capable of bringing lightning. We'll find out. Here we go. Lightning round begins. What is Vic Beasley's jersey number? 58. No. 91.

No, 44. Which Patriot at the time of 2017 had climbed Mount Kilimanjaro? Amadola. No. Chris Long is correct. We got a point. In honor of Keanu Neal, name any Keanu Reeves movie. Speed.

Point both. What is the name of the single off of Dion Sanders' rap album? Must be the money. Correct. In retirement, Drew Bledsoe has started a business with what? wine is correct and the last one what is the signature color of the do-it-yourself super store founded by arthur blank orange oh orange is correct wesling you got it yes deserves it oh my gosh he couldn't help and you know what's funny at the time

all three years ago west lane also got orange that that is i know how people are perfect for you brother do it yourself my man so that i i i did we learn anything dan one i think i think in one. Got some speed round. I might have pulled a bell check to get there. I'm not sure. Are we counting Bethune Cookman

that was Googled? So it's two to one. Well, let's also take it back to what was Wes's reaction coming off the stage? Because now I am having a vague memory of asking him hours later when we first saw him for the day.

I go, how'd that GMFB segment go and you were steaming? Well, I think my initial reaction was dejection. I beat myself up quite a bit for not doing well. And then I thought about it for why

I was like, those are the worst questions. Terrible. Who out of those questions should not hold a job. Kyle, how about this? And you feel free to shoot this down. But we have our own trivia game called Win West's Toaster, put a lot of care into the questions. Sometimes those don't pass the smell test with Wes either, but I think in general, the track record is good.

What if, and hopefully there is a Super Bowl 55, what if you guys did a rematch here? and it was Wessling Schrager and we were able to work with you to come up with the questions and we'd be on the same time like it can't wait to do it it's a great idea and we get to be in the Rokes Gallery

watching the whole thing go down Of course, yes absolutely Wesleyan you up for it it's more about you I was going to say I choose not to run but if Kyle's coming up with the questions I assume he may have come up with the original ones

but I assume whoever it was has been ejector seating out of NFL network by now and it no longer works in football or anything to do with entertainment. They were left in Houston as I recall. I didn't even ask you guys the question where the answer, the answer was Cornelius Bennett. We had a Cornelius

Benet. There was a Courtney Upshaw answer too, according to the clip we answered. There was an upshot and we had multiple weems question. It's ridiculous. I think as I recall hearing the story behind the scenes that Shreger ripped up the return tickets for each of the people on the production team for getting on the plane.

Kyle is that Stregor. If Kyle is the impresario here, I'm in. Respect. We'll do it. We'll do it. February, God willing, of 2021 in Tampa Florida. And, Wes, the reason it's good that we're going to be involved, too, we want to protect you and protect your brand because you represent us. My brand?

Yeah. Thank you for that. I've been worried about my brand for a while. All right. There it is. Well, Collie, we've said it all. You've come on the show for the first time. It was overdue.

And as everyone expected, you know, you did it all. You said it all and you hit a home run. Thank you. We talked to Brian Allen, the player apparently is on the Rams. I met a young Rosenthal. We got to talk about some softcore. So, I mean, that checks all the boxes for me, guys. Thank you so much.

Just an absolute trip to be with the heroes. Thank you. Thanks, I should say that our friends over at Rocket Mortgage, thank you for supporting our program. Yes, I know they named their company after Rocket Ismail, who was a childhood hero of mine. So I'm very, very excited to hear that. Thank you. Beautiful. Total kismet.

Kyle, so good morning football back. Yes, good morning football. We'll be back. Draft week, live TV from the basements. Somehow, some way, we will land on the moon. So please watch us. Will this be the background? Will it be the Princeton or are they too corporate to let that happen?

They might be. It's too corporate for them. Too toolish for me. I'm going to be up all night tonight thinking of tapestries and sketch your drawings or anything that's better than this. I mean, look at me. Come on. Carol King Tapestry album, there you go. Be proud. I hope so. Thanks for joining us, Kyle. This is Dan Hentz.

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