NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - BURNING QUESTIONS for the 2022 NFL Season

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you the latest in the NFL starting with the very sad news out of Dallas that Cardinals cornerback Jeff Gladney died in a car accident (7:45). Aaron Donald spoke about retirement and his contract status with the Rams (9:30), David Njoku signed a big extension with the Browns (13:30), and Akiem Hicks is heading to the Buccaneers on a one-year deal (18:00). Then, the heroes answer burning questions for the 2022 season (33:00), covering when Tua will be benched, where Baker will start Week 1, the 49ers quarterback situation, and more. We wrap up the show with group power rankings of the top broadcasting pairs from the five major networks (1:02:10). Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To my left, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler. Oh, yeah. What's up, boys? Heroes of plenty. Oh, yeah. Team in with heroes. Dan had a variety of technical issues heading into the show today. And I think he's, you know, it's rare that Dan seems rattled.

A little bit. A little rattled. It's like a laptop. You know, I'm doing some pre-show work at the house. It's like, let me get to the office a little bit early, get ahead of thing. Sure. Get there. A professional.

Computer doesn't turn on. Then I have a backup laptop. and then it's like a password from like July of 2021 don't know that I got IT in the mix then I got people coming in and saying hello and you know you know how it is Mark what people do in the rounds oh yeah people do the rounds together as they say her it really cut into Greg my prep time which I don't like because I like but you also just don't like to talk to other people unless they've yeah you're talking to a wrong guy had a had a pre had approval that's that's Mark's thing I'm okay with talking to people I don't know I I do not

when I'm getting ready for my podcast. You keep like a famously tight, though, list of people allowed into the inner circle, especially for like a Christmas party. That's different. Very different. It is. People have to pass a certain test. They have to be bringing something to the table.

Can't be taking things off the table. But if they're not bringing anything, if they're just like in the middle, they might not get asked back to either. Yeah. It's like in, and if they're sitting at the table and then after the party, like, oh, where's salt pepper shaker? You guys see that? I had a Tabasco bottle.

Here's Larry. Forks and knives? Where are they? Somebody took something off the table. They don't come back. They've got one chance with you. But that's the thing. I'm a friendly person and I'll talk to anybody here in the office.

But in terms of like hanging, yeah, it's a little tighter. I don't see. You with a huge circle, Greg. Like, everybody, come hang with me. We've been to your house once for your son's like second birthday party like a prior decade. Yeah, I'm not taking any shots. No, I'm more. I feel like I'm more of.

I'll be happy to talk to the... In fact, Mark complains about me walking around the room talking to too many people here. I continually and being character-assinated during this. I enjoy many people. I like going out and meeting new people as well. All day, every day. Even at this time of year, remember that?

I don't think I'm speaking at... 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. I don't think I'm speaking out of turn, Mark. But I think what got on Mark's radar is that he saw that as potential ladder climbing attempts being made when you were glad-handing through the newsroom. Well, it's usually like Jeremy Bergman and the... David Ealy, that's pretty much who it is.

I mean, I see Greg in our office for about eight minutes a week at this point, so I'm not really concerned. I do try to time it now. Lunch opens at the huddle at 1130. Just time it so that you get there right when lunch opens and then have a nice, luxurious, delicious taco. All right, I'm looking forward to that taco, but first, we need to deliver a quality podcast to you, the listener. Thank you for following us all season long. Here we are deep in May, the last day of May, and we're going to get you caught up to what's going on around the NFL.

Also, you know, people, people want answers. People want to know what's going to happen in 2022. People, they're burning questions and they demand knowledge now. And that's where we come in. We fill in the blank there. You give us questions. We took some from the internet. We have some of our own, perhaps.

and we're going to be asking each other questions about the 2020 season. And here's the thing. A little bit of a spoiler alert, we are answering these questions with the actual answer about what's going to happen. So be ready. Don't turn off the app. Let it play with the volume down so we get the download figures. But understand the information you're going to hear about the 2022 season is something that will occur. So get ready.

And I think for if you're the type of person, person, because you sort of said, you know, generalize that everyone wants answers, and I think that's true. But for some people, it may be the enjoyment of sport is to allow the drama to unfold in real time. This is a dangerous episode. Absolutely. I would say, yes, this is one of the more dangerous episodes because you're messing with the time and space continuum. Sure. And people are wondering, how are you going to know these answers? Are you time travelers? No, it's something like that. It's just something we're going to look into the abyss and the answers will come to us because we've been doing this podcast since 2013.

We now have all the information. We're experts. You know, there are a lot of people in this day and age who don't really rely on expertise. They think they're the expert, but they're wrong. Thank you. We are the experts. Thank you.

It's well said. All right. Speaking of well said, we got a lot to do news-wise. Let's hit it. Let's hear from a voice that's very near and dear to us. Man, I'd love to see somebody. like Matthew Stafford with with Sean McVeigh. From the archives of around the NFL, it's the legend, Chris Wessling.

And that was dated September 6th, 2019, Week 1 preview. Sean McVeigh, you know, at that point, I believe Jared Gough was a highly productive starter at that time still. But Matthew Stafford was going through his. his Detroit Lions career and what season was that to 2019 entering 2019 okay golf had just signed his mega extension and you were all talking about it reacting to it and that's where that came there were a lot of there were golf supporters on this on this podcast Greg I thought that you were quite a golf guy for a bit of time there really he had a he had a he had a he had a

he had a stretch where he was talked about as an mvp candidate when we went yeah when he went to the game in 2018 it was mostly that he just threw a pretty ball no he threw that he had that beautiful Thursday night game, but I do remember, and this is not anything against you, but when we went to Rams camp, I remember talking out on the site and we were all kind of really impressed by his arm strength and just the free and easy way in which he threw the ball. I mean, there was a time where Goff seemed like the guy, but Wes, to his credit, but what if Matthew Stafford and Sean McVeigh got together. It's a special connection too, because I know Keisha told me that that was like the last

football conversation they ever had basically was stafford getting traded to the rams and uh and she mentioned to him you know what had happened it wasn't like a long talk but um but he he was excited for her that that her team got such a great player and then it all ended up with her at the super bowl watching him win great pull can't believe the rams and bangles played in the super bowl uh we miss you chris westling and by the way shout out to joe whitehead listener who dug through the archives and found that. Yeah, I love when people send us stuff like that. That's great. We would never have known that or remembered. All right. Let's hit the news starting with some sad news. We, and this is for the second time in a couple of months now because we lost Dwayne Haskins due to a accident on a highway down in Florida. And now we get the news that Arizona Cardinals cornerback, Jeff Gladney, killed in a car accident early Monday morning. His agent confirmed this to ESPN. The Cardinals released a statement. Monday afternoon, also confirming the death, which occurred at around 2.30 in the morning on Monday. Gladney was 25 years old. He had signed with the Cardinals in March after a jury found him

not guilty on a felony assault charge. It was that assault charge and those legal issues that led to the end of his run with the Minnesota Vikings who took him in the first round out of TCU in 2020, but he was released in August when he was indicted on that charge. So, um his NFL career never got off the ground off the field issues caused a major strain for him but at 25 years old uh jeff gladny passes away very sad and a passenger female passenger in the car also lost their life yeah rest in peace in other news on the football field aaron donald speaking of the rams and the super bowl champions he is eight years into one of the most legendary careers of any defensive lineman in NFL history.

Now he's got his ring. Remember him pointing to the finger after he got the big takedown of Joe Burrow. He says he'd be at peace with his career if he and the Rams can agree to a new contract this summary. He signed through the 2024 season, but he has no guaranteed money left on his deal. He was on the I am athlete. It feels like there's a missing word there. But all right.

I am athlete podcast. This is what he had to say about the. situation. Me talking about retirement, that would happen to be way before we won a Super Bowl. I've been saying that since I got into the league. I was going to play eight years and be done. That's just, you know, that's just what I've been saying. It just came out down to everybody think that, you know, oh, he's saying, if he won't

a Super Bowl, you're going to retire. No, I've been talking, I got teammates, coaches, my family know about this. I said, I'm going to play eight years and I'll probably be done playing football. But winning the Super Bowl, you get kind of a little addicted to it. I want to feel that again, though. I ain't going to lie. That's like that experience is like none other. If I was to play, it's just to win another Super Bowl,

but at the end of the day, it's still a business and it got to make sense to me and my family. Mark Donald said that he and the Rams probably will work out a deal, but if one can't be reached, he won't walk away mad. I mean, this is different to me than Kyler Murray in his anti-drama wiping his Instagram account. I think Donald is being truthful. He's in a place of individual comfort with where he is in his career.

Now, do I think that a mega deal from the Rams that will make him the most highly paid defensive player in the league and the fact that they're sitting right in a wide open Super Bowl window probably will have him inking a new deal and sitting Pat with the Rams a few weeks from now, months from now, yes. Right. He said it's about, it's not about the money, but it's a business. So it's a business.

And it's just one of those things when you sign a deal that he did and the teams were looking to get guys to sign long deals. He signed a six-year, $135 million contract. But it had a $40 million signing bonus, $86 million is guaranteed. I mean, it was more than fair. He signed it when he was 27. Now he's 31, and now he's underpaid. The money that he's making this year doesn't make any sense.

And teams have to understand this when you sign a guy to that long of a contract. Yeah, you get flexibility, but you're going to have him coming back after four seasons like he is right now. I think he'll get his money. But it's tricky. I mean, what's he worth? He's the best defensive player of all time. I mean, if he was worth $86 million guaranteed last time, well, that's pretty simple.

I mean, it's like he's worth so much, but he's 31, so it's a little tricky for them. All right. It's whatever the top of the market is in that position group, he should be the top of it because he's the best. But it's like way over the top, right? Like, is he worth more than Devante Adams and those guys, the receiver contracts?

I think he could certainly make that argument. I would tend to agree. More than T.J. Watt, more than Joey Bosa. I know the salary cap is something easily manipulated, but like, are the Rams in a tough position here where he wants to back up the Brings truck and have a kind of positionally changing type contract, how that position is judged and what he's been able to do with that, is there an impasse possibly? I don't think so. And I think it's all ultimately a bargaining tactic. Aaron Donald will be lining up week one. I saw a Brinks truck during my vacation.

And the first thing that goes through your mind is, I mean, I don't think I could physically pull this off, but how I would like to rob it. Oh. And just take a small amount. I just take a small parcel of money. But in a nonviolent scenario? So you're thinking, how would I do it?

Yeah. It would have to be what you do. I don't know. I'd have to give it more thought than I did. I guess two minutes later I was saying about something else. I feel like this segment is not a good piece of evidence to put out there. You know what I mean?

If you're going to do it, this is on record. Unless they think because I've said it, I won't do it now. There was a woman who was convicted for murder last week in Washington State, who had one point written a blog post, how to murder your husband. And then she murdered her husband. So it's like that's the type of digital record you can leave these days. That blog spot will get you every time. In other contract news, the Brown signed David Njoku to a four-year $56.8 million extension

and includes $28 million guaranteed. Rapsheet noted that, by the way, you and Rapsheet, ice broken? There was no ice to be broken. I don't know how that works, the ice. Did you break the chill? What is the terminology I'm looking for, Mark? Well, things got a little hot between you. Things thought.

This is all your narrative. It's not taking off. And I think you should look inside yourself for that. What do you mean not taking off? These are questions. You're hoping this is going to be a whole narrative. And this is the first I've heard about it since you last brought it up. Well, I'm asking now that you were aware of it on the last show, I brought it up, were any steps taken?

This will shock you. But that show was the last I thought of it. And I'm sure, I'm sure Ian is thinking even less. And it seems chilly. Greg, it still seems a little. Right. Right. freezing. I'm just saying you said yourself, he's your number one insider source.

You're going to, before the season gets going in earnest, you might want to build a bridge there. Because if you build a bridge when training camp starts, he might sniff it out like, oh, now he wants to be friends with me again when I need scoops. Just saying. There's other sources out there. Wow. Okay. See, well, I think we move the story a little bit there, Mark. I think, you know, you're doing the work of a journalist, Dan. Anyway, Enjoku, according to Rapsheet, is the fifth highest paid tight end in terms of yearly average.

Mark, you've watched Injoku his entire career, former first round pick. The money surprised me just because I know he's more a guy that has flashed as opposed to actually put together a big season. Do you think this was money well invested by Cleveland? It's a projection. I think it shows faith that, you know, half the Brown's fan base would say he looks the part. He's also been extremely frustrating at times. I will say he's been in a system with multiple coaches, up and down quarterback play. And when he was, you know, in 2020, I thought he made a, took a real big step forward.

Last season, skittish again to some degree. But it tells me that there are a dearth of playmaking tight ends around the league. He's getting paid because there aren't just that enough of these guys that I think the Browns, look at Dave and the Jokku and say, with DeShon Watson a quarterback, with the year three of Stefansky's system, that is a tight end friend. system for the most part, unless you're Austin Hooper. They're saying, we believe you're worth the money. I was kind of shocked by it.

I mean, he's just, every fifth game of his career, he'll make a couple of plays, and you'll be like, great. This is David and Joku. Well, he's demanding to be cut a couple of months ago. He has 15 touchdowns in five seasons. So it's not come together. He has 1,700 yards in 500 season. So that's an average of what, Dan?

What was it again? Give me it. 1,700 yards and five seasons. That's not fair. 1700 across five seasons yeah about 281 yards it's over 300 yeah but you know uh somewhere between three and four yeah we definitely were 300 i took your cue either either way it's low it's um i don't get it and but it's self scouting they know him better than anyone else he's it's basically a two for 25 deal but that's that's a lot for they just got out of the austin hooper business and

they didn't really judge that contract too well maybe right maybe he he he's improved as a blocker he's adds the versatility that they want. And right now he's their number two receiver. Their wide receiver room is a mess. Right. There's this whole idea that's like, Deshawn Watson's just stepping into like a Super Bowl ready roster.

And one of my takeaways from doing projected starter was like, this roster isn't the same as 2020. That was the 2020 Browns roster. The offensive line, I think, has more questions than it did. The secondary is a little thin to me. And the receiver group is one of the worst depth-wise in the league. after Amari Cooper.

It's just you're, I think they'll actually add some more players. One thing they do have a lot of is cap space and money and that they just spent some on in Joku, but they've got more. You could imagine Will Fuller

potentially going there. In OTAs, they've been... I only get to bring up Will Fuller on this podcast. You know, that's a rule. Then you can say it. I'll believe Will Fuller would be an excellent fit with the quarterback that they... That's a good point.

That's a good point. It'd be a nice pickup. Beckham, whatever. That's just sloppy. I don't know about, you know. If that's not happening, it would be funny, though. Yeah. All right.

Time now for Greybeards, news and notes presented by Upwork, where you can build the team that will build your business. Learn more at Upwork.com. Akeem Hicks, he goes from a fake team, the Greybeards, to a real one, the buck and ears. A one-year contract up to $10 million, probably not close to $10 million, but it, If he had like 27 sacks, he'd probably get $10 million. Anyway, but he's 32 years old. He was a guy that thrived earlier in his career. He's had some injury issues, Greg.

And now he slots in, I guess he'll be in the Endomicon Sue spot for the bucks unless they decide to bring Sue back. But that feels like a nice fit for Hicks. Yeah, great fit for Hicks. Great for them. He's someone, I think, would benefit from playing a little less. That hasn't been by choice lately. he missed most of the last season and most of 2019.

And even when he played a full season in 2020, he wasn't like peak Hicks, which was an all pro player. But I think they've shown Todd Bowles especially that they can take these guys towards the end of the career and get a ton of value out of him. I mean, I'm going back to the same thing I keep repeating about the draft.

It's like, Akeem Hicks, if he's healthy, he's going to make a bigger impact than most first round picks this year, even though he's coming in. I mean, he's going to give you 500, 600, a good snaps. And in the past when they signed Sue, they got them for good money. I think they got good money and good value again right

here. I like it. I think Sue is a target for the Cleveland Browns, although they say they're not interested. But if another short coming for that team, that roster, the defensive, interior defensive line is an absolute mess right now. Did you jump it off a flaming bandwagon? That's smart mark. What? I mean, the roster, maybe not so hot.

You got the mess at quarterback. Maybe you're doing a jump and a forward roll off the wagon as it goes off the cliff and flames. Potentially. I just think that they're being overvalued because of what they did at quarterback in terms of the roster. There are problems there. Defensive tackle is the other spot I should have mentioned there. You're right.

I kind of think they are, I give them credit for identifying some values. I think they will. They are one of the teams I think are going to sign multiple pretty solid veterans on the rest of the office. Yeah. I'll miss your question mark. Where you're at right now in your Brown's divorce. do you have you changed your offseason habits are you not following the beat reporters anymore beyond what you do for this job are you following the team in a different way than the other teams or have you disconnected on that realm i dive so deeply into all 32 teams that i don't think that there's anything different about the tone of this off season very good that was a great answer i mean it's a great answer by the way speaking of the graybeards uh the wide receiver position, Beckham, Antonio Brown, Jarvis Landry, Julio Jones.

Landry landed with the Saints. Antonio Brown came out and said, don't play yourself and think I'm going to be on the team. It's like, whatever, dude. I still think he'll be in the mix, potentially, but it doesn't sound like he's going to do with a team. We do. I'm not, I'm not nervous yet, although his attitude is abhorrent. Julio Jones still there.

I'm not excited about that. I don't know. I mean, if you're the Browns, Like, why wouldn't you bring in Julio Jones on a cheap contract? Why not draft him in 2009 like you should have to begin with? Ooh. Well, that was a... He gets it.

He's off. This guy gets it. That was a gaff. Who did they take instead of Julio? Well, they traded down and took Alex Mack, who was a great center for them. But, you know, they had no answer at wide receiver for the next eight years. Julio would have been a better pick than Alex Mac. As much as we like Alex Mac.

That was Greybeard's news and notes presented by Upwork, the world's work marketplace, learn more at Upwork.com. In other news, the cults, you know, there is a lot of selling going on around the cults right now, but they have solved everything now because they have Matt Ryan in 2022. Maybe in 2009, it would have been amazing for the cults, but they've, you know, they have this version of Mr. Ryan and Michael Pittman, the lone 1,000 yard receiver a year ago on Indianapolis.

Oh, man, he's like, everything's in play when it comes to Matt Ryan. No rules. Matt can pretty much put it wherever he wants, so you kind of just catch it, turn, and then run. So he's going to put it where it needs to be. Hey, listen, he's got the green light. Go, he'll put it there. I was worried for a second that you weren't using this headline

just because it delighted the 12-year-old boy in me. But no, you are using this headline just for the... that reason, so thank you. Put it wherever he wants. Hey. You got to think about that as a headline writer. Or maybe they did think about that as a headline writer. Because now I'm seeing sites like PFF said that out this quote.

They know it's going to get reaction. They know put it wherever it wants. I'm sure Michael Pittman isn't thrilled with the way it's circling the internet. But I understand what he's saying. I don't know. He's on the news cycle now. Maybe he came up with this plot to begin with. So finally in the news, this happened early in the holiday.

weekend, but we got a lot of people that wanted our reactions. So let's listen to, and I know we have a guy built Roto World brick by brick. I myself am a former NFL fantasy commissioner for well over a decade. So here's Giants outfielder Jacques Peterson discussing what happened with Tommy Pham, a I guess he's a red. He's a Cincinnati red. Tommy fan they were in a fantasy league together that involved multiple major league players and Tommy fan before the game approached Jacques Peterson and slapped him in the face will Smith style and it was about a fantasy football rules dispute jock peterson when approached by the media for the story did not spare any detail hit it just we were in

a fantasy fantasy league together can you pause it for one second i want you Greg is a brick by break guy yeah to try to really kind of let's parse his words and tell me who you think yeah get to the bottom of this good i put somebody a player on the injured reserve when they were listed as out and um added another player uh and then um there's a text message in the group saying that I was cheating because I was stashing players on my bench and then I don't know I looked up the rules and sent a screenshot of the rules how it says that one of the players ruled out you're allowed to put him on the IR and that's all I was doing and then it just so happened that he had a player Jeff Wilson who was out and he had him on the IR and I said he's surrounded by reporters right on your team on your real storyteller and then I guess he was in two leagues he was on the IR and one of them he wasn't so maybe that was a confusion but on the ESPN league we were in it was listed out so it's like it feels

very similar to what I did and that was basically that all of it there's not much more to it Um, okay. All right. Um, I'll give my take first, Greg, then I want to hear yours and Mark, any thoughts you have. Uh, the failure here. Well, first of all, some lunatics slapping a guy in the face in the outfield over fantasy football league. I also know that though, because I was in a fantasy football league in my 20s like these guys are and it's really, there's a lot of bad blood in fantasy leagues when you got a bunch of like 28 year old guys that are way too much invested in it emotionally and financially. But the failures of the commissioner, in my opinion, Gregi, because he set an IR rule that could be easily manipulated. You've got to set this thing hard and fast. You could say you only go on to the IR unless you're actually on real life IR. If you allow people to slide in guys that are simply out, it invites issues exactly like this. Well, I didn't even need to hear him say anything. The guy who slaps another man for a fantasy football crime in the outfield, I don't.

care what happened. And then, oh, by the way, the other guy didn't do anything wrong. The rules are the rules that's totally typical of a fantasy league that you could put guys on IR if they're out. That's not, it's not, right. It's not a strange rule at all. If the commissioner, if the system lets you do it, you can do it. It's not even like he was looking for some sort of loophole. He was just playing the game. Shouldn't this have been sealed up when he sent the screenshot of how the league is being run and he didn't go outside and heard all this? How it works. And the, The other issue... Slapping alone is just like you are admitting you're in the wrong.

And how long is he knew that they were going to face each other on the diamond at some point? How long does the slapper in his mind say to himself, when I go visit, when I go into this game situation, I'm going to slap him. I mean, fantasy football ended in January at the latest. It was the 2020 season, Greg. So... This feels like it's an absurd set up to some degree. There has to be more to the story, but...

Well, there's a giff involved where... the giant stodgers and Padres. There was like a weight thrown in the air. And the Padres guy, that's where Pham was playing for at the time, got crushed by the weight. So there was some, you know, making fun of the Padres as well.

But he also, that guy, the slapper, also quit the league over that issue in the middle of the season, which is the biggest no-no. You never quit a league in the middle of the year unless something heinous went down. It sounds like the slapper should be the slap-e on some level because he's quit the league. He's a hothead.

He's probably nuts. So that's the problem here. Like you're like, what is, what are we missing here? Oh, the guy Tommy fan is a lunatic. It's got to be. Come on, man. All right. Before we take a break, it's time once again for it came from the internet.

All right. So here we go. Mark, you love that old CBS. pre-game with Brent Musburger. Oh, yeah. And for a while in the studio with him was Brown's great Jim Brown. All right. Here is an excerpt of a telecast that I believe was in mid-80s, around 84 or so, Gravedigger.

Let's listen in it. Jim, it amazes me that the big backs in the league are able to take as much punishment as they do. I mean, they get whacked coming up the middle of there. What, it amazes me, too. Well, a lot of them are getting hurt now because I think the conditioning program is great yet. As I said earlier, and I hate to say it, there is a cocaine problem which in the league. And you cannot play under the influence of cocaine. What was that, Jim?

There is a cocaine problem which in the league. And you cannot play under the influence of cocaine. No, Jim Brown, probably not wrong. In the early 80s, and it wasn't just an NFL problem. You look at the NBA, which was basically torn apart by cocaine use. The NFL, I'm sure it was a thing. MLB, you had Keith Hernandez and a trial admitting to it. society.

I mean, I was a very, an 80, it was on a fire in the 80s. I was listening to an interview and they were talking, it was like a director talking about their parents, like their parents would just openly do coke at parties in front of kids back then. But like the Brent Musburger was like,

oh, uh, this just took a different turn that I was expecting. So that did a little like research. Jim Brown, he's, he's a legendary player. His,

his off the field life, not always Sterling, but he's a very fascinating individual. And I have to say he is someone, if you dig into this period of his life, the early 80s, he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated on December 12th, 1983, and a full Raiders uniform. He wanted to come back at age 47. But he hadn't been signed, but he just did a photo shoot wearing a Raiders uniform. And he just, he had something.

He had, he had an issue with the modern game at that point. I feel like maybe he thought it had changed. Here's a quote and it connects to the dialogue with Musburger. Where are the heroes, the gladiators? He's also asking whatever happened to, you know who? Absolutely. We need more Jim Plunkets, Ted Hendricks's, Lyle Alzado's, Jack Lamberts, John Rigginses. They are throwbacks to the old days.

Today's heroes are insulated by their money. They're more worried about their women and their drugs. The lady, cocaine he's referring to. And the ladies go together. together. Cocaine is the prettiest lady of the mall. Like, he was on this like, these guys are doing Coke now. Well, he was right, right? I mean, well, like, he's part of, I mean, the most consistent thing in human history is there's always someone telling you that it used to be better. People used to be tougher. The world used to be better. The generation before were

better people. That's like consistent. In this case, Coke was part of it. Right. It's just kind of interesting. He could not help, but shoehorn into every conversation he was having about the modern football player. Also, you should know that Franco Harris at that this time was trying to, who was very close to the NFL rushing record. Of course, Jim Brown retired after nine seasons with the record. So that's why he was planning to come out of retirement because he thought it was a great injustice that Franco Harris, a man that ran out of bounds and didn't take punishment would ever break his record. So he wanted to go back and distance the record, which was broken anyway by sweetness. Walter

It was about two years later that big back Kevin Mac was actually nailed for cocaine. So, you know, Jim Brown right on topic there. All right. Well, that's it for it came from the internet. And we'll be right back.

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So, um, one of our own making. Of your own making. Why don't you get it going, Mark? Why don't you ask me a question? And again, if you do not want to know what's going to happen in the 2022 NFL season, turn it off now. Volume down. I like this one. This one, um, I'd be interested to see what, uh, what you think about this.

Is there a quarterback that you could see getting benched before Halloween that nobody is talking about? Not, you know, someone that's out there in the mist from the wilderness. that would shock us right now. There is. There is a quarterback. Ah. He plays in the AFC. He's connected to a team that,

People are very high on. He's a first-round pick with the journeyman behind him. And yet, there's too much smoke. Ah, way too much smoke. His struggles will lead to a change. That will make Greg Rosenthal very excited. Tua. Tunga Viloa will be benched by Halloween.

I could see that. So this is like a Miss Cleo situation. You're just like wiping away the cobwebs and seeing the truth. In a way. In a way, I don't want to, we do not endorse black magic. No. We do not endorse the dark arts. We are not time travelers. As far as anyone knows, that's accurate.

But we have done like 1,500 NFL podcasts. And with that comes a level of clarity that, like Greg says, If you think hard enough into the abyss, the answer presents itself. And that's what happened. And I see, ooh, yeah, Tua is not happy on the sideline. Oh, wow, a little spicy. You're really asking for Tuan on to come after you. Tuana.

You have put it out there that Tua is not going to make it until October. He'll make it to October, but he won't make it to November. No, not to November. as the starting quarterback. As a human, yes. I am almost certain he will, wait. Yes, he will also make it as a human. That's very good.

But Teddy Bridgewater is exactly the level of backup that a head coach who, you know, first year head coach who's seeing an offense maybe not go how he wants it to go. Maybe two is a little banged up too. That's just what's happening. I mean, it might not be a permanent benching, but I could totally see new coach, an owner that I don't think is totally sold on Tua when they could have had Justin Herbert, that if you have Teddy, you want to give Tua a break if he gets into one of his little Tua slumps.

And you could come at me right now. And Alphid's been like, oh, man, he was talking about the other thing last week with ownership and all the things behind the scenes. That's, I didn't mean to do that. That was a question presented to me. I didn't know it was coming. And that was the answer that came to me. First four games, home to New England at Baltimore, home to Buffalo. at Cincinnati.

To your point, seeing the future here, Tua has to play at a very high level to help the dolphins start off well. It eases up after that. But if you get in an 0 and 4 or 1 in 3 hole, I don't think it's being that controversial to say this team might not have as much patience as they're going to be putting out there.

Expectations are so high now, especially with the Tyreek Hill acquisition, if he doesn't get off to a typical Tyreek Hill start who knows he might talk as well there could be some bad vibes there so a lot of pressure on to come out of the gates fast i will now turn my attention to gregg i say look and you know what you need to do here gregg you're going to tell people what's going to happen it's scary what will Baker Mayfield's 22 NFL season look like I'm looking at this

dig it, baby oh, that's so clear it's so easy he's starting week one for the for the Carolina Panthers it's so easy so the clouds parted immediately I don't have to go like go think about all this it's like oh yeah hey we're going into the season with Sam Darnold as our quarterback.

It's the most clear, you know, it's, I don't need to be clairvoyant to see that it's just it's a manufactured joke that Matt Ruhle would feel comfortable going into the future after almost getting fired because Sam Darnold almost got him fired with no other option. And they're playing this little game here that they don't have to, you know, look at, they don't have to pay Baker Mayfield salary hopefully in their mind and they're only going to pay a portion of it. And that's all fine. They're in no hurry. I just see it.

I just don't see him sitting on the bench. And I actually think under Matt Rule, he would be a pretty good fit. They would have to get the ball out of his hand a little quicker, but it's a lot of short throws. I think he can do it. He can at the very least represent what Teddy did a couple of years ago, which is all they might need for a little upgrade at quarterback. I will tell you that looking at this question,

We're on the same party line. Number one, what's juicier in the fact that he goes to Carolina? Matt Rule is under fire. Baker Mayfield, it solves that position, at least for this year. And they play Cleveland in week one. That is the stepping stone to Baker Mayfield, guiding the Panthers to nine and eight, saving Matt Rule's job. And he wins comeback player of the year while the Browns don't make the playoffs.

Grave-tigger. Ah, something's coming to me. The Progressive Ad Campaign. Oh, no. Who is the new spokesman? Not Deshawn Watson. I think that's not. You're a sear is what you are.

I bet they're in a tricky spot right now, Progressive. They're just waiting for this to happen, but I don't know. Imagine I have sympathy for Baker's entire offseason, even though maybe he's a little knucklehead or he talks too much, whatever. But like he not only has he been left out to dry by the Browns, hung out to dry, the entire football world has said, we're not so hot on you either. And you got that progressive phone call that's just kind of, you're waiting for that one because they're probably not looking to do business

or a guy who's not really a starting quarterback or a guy that's seen as a high-octane NFL player. So it's almost like that's the last indignity, the phone call from the progressive higher-ups. Counterpoint has a nice guaranteed salary coming his way, barring other issues, and he made a lot of money off of those progressive commercials already. But you're right. My clairvoyance that I felt that I had

might have been a little off with the whole week one idea. It would be tricky for him to get in there win that job even before playing the Browns. I might want to avoid that. But I just see him. I see him in that uniform. I see it. It all makes sense.

Okay. All right. Why don't you throw one out there, Greg? All right, Mark. I'll ask you a question here. All right. Which defense will be seen as the league's most dominant in 2022? Take us there.

This is not tricky to me at all. Well, you're not. not using your brain to figure out what the answer is. It came to me. It just came to me and it was a beautiful image. Right. So it presented itself. An NFC squad that has gone through changes but remains a team on defense that I think the stamp of who they are is zero fear, immense swagger, and it's the New Orleans Saints. They've had some changes. You know, some faces have vanished, But some, you put Honey Badger, I think, who is one of the best locker room presences in football, into the perfect spot. And I know the offense may be hot and cold next season.

We'll see. Sean Payton not being there. But the defense has enough carryover. Marcus Davenport, Cam Jordan, CGJ, Marshawn Latimore. I love these guys. So I just think the Saints is my answer. And it's very clear to me. There was nothing else that came in there.

I saw a little vision for a minute of the Rams. but I but I that's loaded away floated away well according to football outsiders saints were number three in defensive DVOA behind Dallas Dallas and Buffalo and just ahead of New England and we're in we're top two the year before too so that is consistent and yet I don't know I think another team in their division was where I'd go we just signed to keep but he didn't go anywhere again no that I thought we were experts And so after doing this show for so long that that somehow... It is.

It's a little confusing. Look what the Saints defense. Sometimes it's confusing with Dan. Let's us know. It's just, it's not, this isn't your opinion. That wasn't Mark's opinion. Right. That was, it came to him.

Can I have a different opinion though? Or is Mark's just... Well, you know it's wrong though, right? Well, that's a good point. Yeah. But you could share your wrong opinion. It's sort of on spools the segment to debate because what we have been given are like, you know, a vision from the gods almost.

That's a veteran who's a veteran who's done. 10 seasons worth of the shows. But if you want to share your opinion, that's incorrect, please. I love sharing incorrect opinions. I think the Bucks are the team I would watch out for there. That's all. Well, what does the Saints defense do to Tom Brady year after year? That's fair.

That's a fair point. All right. Let's do another round. All right. I want to ask you this one. Okay. I don't know if I mentally, I'm a little bit. I think this is a pressing question.

This will test your ability. The San Francisco 49ers and what is happening with their quarterback situation, just take us there and tell us what happens. That's the question so many want to know. Where are we by week one? Why does it not hurt you guys? I see confusion. I see arguments behind the scenes. I see phone call.

So many phone calls. John Lynch, he wants to trade. He wants to trade. No one says yes. No one says yes. Phone calls. That's a phone calls. Landlines.

So many landlines everywhere. No one using wireless technology. Now, speeding through training camp. I see two figures. Okay, one is definitely Jimmy Garoppolo And yes, Trey Lance

Hmm Trey Lance's finger looks okay Good Week one It's Trey Lance on the field Hmm But By week six

It is the veteran Garoppolo. Oh, no. God. Who leads the offense from San Francisco. Wow. You okay? I can't do another one of those.

No, that's taxing on you, I can say. Yeah. So that's... It seems to really go, like, inside of you in a way that it just doesn't with market. Did you ever see ghost? Yes. It's very exhausting, yeah, for whoop. And again, we're not seers.

We're not fortune tellers. but when Whoopi, when she had to, like, go in and see things. I mean, it kind of seems like we're seers here. When Whoopi. It's the role we're playing. When Whoopi was done, she was fatigued afterwards. I think maybe that's potentially where this is coming from. But I don't know.

Not every seer goes to the same sort of physical toil. But with you, it's very... It's taxing. It's visible. Physically, yes. I also think that this answer that you gave, It could have been an answer to another question that you got, which quarterback would get benched early?

Because if Trey Lance, when Trey Lance gets benched early for Jimmy Garapo, unless it's an injury, I guess that's possible here. His finger is healed, though. That would be a seismic move. That would be, and I have no reason to doubt any part of your vision because it's the truth. Right, there will be a seismic move. they have to start trey lands he's going to get all the reps this off season you've got to get it ready and yet can't you just imagine um if this team doesn't get out to a fast start like a year ago

it's the kyle shanahan type of thing to do and that locker room it matters i think you you heard it time and time again how much these guys really like garropolo he um also for the record was not healthy uh tray lans said he couldn't throw a spiral last year because of his finger we know gharaproopo obviously was playing banged up and you just yeah, you wonder because the other part of the whole thing with Trade Lance coming out of North Dakota State was he had very limited

reps, he was very raw and he didn't really get any opportunity to really learn the NFL game last year, the way he was used, the way apparently he was limited. So now you didn't even get that first developmental year. It's a very tough spot for Shanahan and the Niners who have

otherwise very much a win now roster. Carl Shanahan, John Lynch, have been relatively bulletproof through a bunch of injury plague seasons. You had the Super Bowl campaign, the loss, but a lot of up and down. And this would be nothing short of a gigantic disaster if Trey Lance is benched by week six. For Jimmy G, who's super imperfect.

And what the vision, what came to me there is they really want to make the Lance thing work because of what they invested in him and what he potentially could bring to that offense in terms of his ability to be a two-way threat, which Garapolo is not. He did make a little. lot of plays. That's the thing I feel like gets lost a little was I was pretty intrigued by the

two starts and they were very different and there were a lot of bad plays too, like very negative plays. But his great plays were great. And I thought he looked pretty good in that Houston start. We brought up Wes earlier. I'll bring up again and we brought up fantasy earlier. I'll bring that up again. One thing whenever we did the fantasy extravaganza, which of course will be coming up again later this summer. Wes, one of the advice the advice he always gave out was don't settle on a guy

that has a floor and a low ceiling. Like take the chance on the guy that could really win your league. And I think you could take that principle and take it to the Niners. You know what you have in Jimmy G, right? But what if Trey Lance healthy in another year in the system

is a stud? San Francisco is the best team in the NFC. And Trey Lance's mobility, fantasy-wise, makes him like Jalen Hertz very high floor. Well, no, now I'm talking, I'm talking real football also. Just saying like. But his ability to do everything. I think he's a very dangerous player.

I think it gives him a higher floor too. I, there's a couple, and it seems like we're being hard on Kyle Shanahan, but I feel like there's two moments in his career, which he probably will almost never get criticized for. But I'll have it in my mind as a criticism. So just he'll know that if he listens to this. Number one, you didn't draft Patrick Mahomes or any of those guys when you had the chance.

It's just like, you traded down and took Solomon Thomas. And they sort of got a pass for that when you absolutely need a quarter. Number two is, Tray Lance wasn't going to play worse than Jimmy G. In those last five games, it was where the worst, I would say that's the worst four-game stretch of Jimmy G's entire career. They made it to the NFC championship game and a quarter away from the Super Bowl, despite him. And in some way, I think that got people to believe that's like, well, I guess it was the right move.

It's like, no, Tray Lance could have given you a pretty low base. line there and not made a lot of mistakes. And who not, they might have been in the Super Bowl. They might have won the Super Bowl. I think it tracks back to the fact that I'm not convinced Kyle Shanahan really ever wanted Trey Lance and probably prefers Jimmy G in ways that is problematic for the Niners.

Let's look at the Niners schedule because it is also important. Yes, that Trey Lance does get this job that he starts well. At Chicago. Doable. Very doable. Home Seattle. Doable.

At Denver. Tricy. Sunday night football. I like that. Trey Lance, Russell Wilson. Let's give me some. And then Monday night football, home against the Rams.

That's, you know, with, and then you got a nice little at Carolina at Atlanta. Oh, but then look what happens. They call that the like NFC South like layup machine. Just like, hey, you guys need some help. Let's play the Panthers and Falcons in back to back weeks.

Yeah, but this Panthers team is going to have Baker. Maybe we've already discussed the Panthers. But in this, because it's been seen, that means in that stretch they're going to go something along the lines of three and three two and four leading to a change against the chiefs in week seven so wow unbelievable and I hope uh I hope everyone uh is holding on to their butts because we're not done yet Greg all right this is another topic everyone wants to know everyone wants to know who is the rightful victor of the

Devante Adams trade. Wow. That's what everybody wants to know. Feels like an opinion, but okay. Okay. I mean, yeah, is that the future? Is it the past? Ow!

Yes. What? Ew. Oh, geez. Not there. Oh, what? Michael Pittman? Ooh.

Seeing a lot. I'm seeing pain. I'm seeing suffering. And I'm seeing a lot of happy Las Vegas Raiders fans. The Las Vegas Raiders are the victor of the Devante Adams trade. You want to know why? Just look at the name of the trade. It's not called the Future Picks trade.

It's called the Devante Adams trade. I don't think that the Packers are going to fall apart because they got rid of Devante Adams. I think considering where they were in their team building cycle and Devante Adams wanted out, they got enough and that they're going to be okay. But I believe that a wide receiver that changes everyone around you.

I did the PFF podcast last week, or they put it up this week. Steve Palazzoa would call it a force multiplier. I believe in that. A top wide receiver makes everyone around him better, including his quarterback like Derek Carr. And they are just, they are going to be the winner of that trade. And you want to know why I know

they were going to be the winner because the Packers didn't want to make it. Devante Adams made them make it. Okay. No, that's that sound theory there that the Packers would have like to have him back. And now they're in a position where they're scrambling and they didn't make a big move on draft day, the Packers to try to replace them. So I think, yeah, I think it makes sense that this is how it's going to play out. Now, will Adams be, well, answer, this is good, Greg.

You're still in the headspace. I hope physically you can handle it. Um, Devanti Adams, does he have 100 catches with Derrickar? Looking, uh, at the final, ooh, that's, ooh, I'm going to have to, well, I'm not allowed to talk to people about anything because this, this would be a, uh, a true advantage in Vegas if I knew that. I would say you should probably, but I did look at the 22, 22 final standings for a reception. Devante Adams only came in fourth, but it's with 103 catches. 17 weeks, he's got that extra game, famously durable, gets over 100. Greg is so going to use this power for ill. Right, to line his pockets.

Right. Oh, wait. Oh, oh, oh. Raphael Nadal has won the 2022 French Open. Check out Courts of Thunder. He got a plug-in there. It's distasteful. The last four years for Adams, or actually,

say the last three years he's played at least 14 games. He's had 111, 115, and 123 catches. So even he'd be down 20 catches, or he is going to be down 20 catches. And yet, I think the Raiders would sign off on that in a second. I do worry about Josh McDaniels kind of is in a funny spot. Maybe this is a little off topic. And just because he's taking over a team that I think overachieved and made the playoffs. And I feel like they could be.

The Devonti Adams trade could make sense. They could have had pretty good off-season moves. They could be good, and they could still not make the playoffs. And then people think the Packers won that trade. But I don't care. It's still the right. Their own division. They play the NFC West.

That is thorny. All right. One more look. What's the juiciest one out here? Which one? Thank you to all the listeners who contributed, who wanted the answers. And we have provided them,

whether you're happy about it or not. Again, that has nothing to do with us. This is not an opinion piece. Don't come at us. It's our ability. Right. Will we see the return to glory for Monday Night Football as an entity now that Troy and Buck are there? And I ask this.

I want to learn some real details about how this Monday Night Football season goes. Great question because Mark famously is turned on by Troy Aikman in so many ways. And yet this answer that's coming to him will have nothing to do with that because it's not about Mark's opinion. This is a perilous one for me. Because he's in a position now, Greg, where he might have to say something negative

about a hero. You really put him in a tough spot. He has no choice. I am not getting painful physical vibrations. I'm getting the opposite. because let me tell you what I've seen. What vehicle on television football providing vehicle has been more lamb-baseded by this podcast than Monday Night Football?

Years on end. There is no, yes, showcased telecast that we've been harder on. Two words. Problem solved. We already know they can do it. I would say this about Troy Aikman. Yes, he is a handsome man, but one of the reasons that I gravitate towards Troy Aikman is just that he was like at the centerpiece for me football-wise growing up.

And he's one of those last Cowboys quarterbacks. You got the Tony Romo thing that he has done it with Buck for so long. They've got great chemistry. I think that Buck is unfairly critiqued by people. Troy Aikman's gotten better in the last couple of years where he's a little, you know, he'll get a little edgy. Totally agree with that. He'll get a little bit flustered and angry at what he sees on the field. I think this is going to take Monday night football.

and turn it back into something special. It has not been special in a very long time. They're not taking a risk. They're not rolling the dice with people we've never heard of. They're not sticking a player in the booth that's getting overpaid and never announced a thing. We talked about the floor in fantasy. The floor here is extremely high. But I think they're going to start to gravitate towards better matchups for Monday Night Football.

I'm giving it a solid grade. Here's the thing. Why this surprised me. Obviously, it happens. So it is now going to be a huge story. Andrew Marchand is going to be writing endlessly about how huge the ratings are and what really surprised me that that could be even possible because it's kind of like this idea that Monday night football has to return to glory. Like it needs to be a conversation. It needs to be, you know, we're around the water cooler on Tuesday and we can't stop thinking about what Joe Buck said to Troy Aikman. And it's like this is not the 70s anymore. The idea that.

Monday night football is an important, quote, unquote, telecast is such a product of a bygone era that I think they, go ahead, this isn't George Bush. Boomer thinking. This is not George Bush with the mission accomplished manner on the aircraft carrier. They can do it. ESPN, put up the barrier, put it up the, put it up on the wall, on the carrier. The mission is accomplished. I have one vision, though, that's disturbing me.

Well, let me just finish. like yeah but at the same time what they accomplished was they have an a plus booth but it's not going to be changing the world it's not going to be something that the america is talking about there is one disturbing element oh and this does this does make me this does cause me a problem inside um because i think does it reverse what was happening before i i think that the cat this it's as it on its own product will be very successful and i'm with you on the on the on the status of television and the fact that it's not the biggest thing on the planet, but you're still dealing with the Manning cast,

which I think is the future of how so many people want to, a big chunk of people want to experience football. And I think right away, that takes away from Buck and Akeman. Wait, we're connecting. They said it couldn't be done. Look, will we see a return to glory for Monday Night Football? It is parts of two telecasts that are, creating the best night of analysis and play-by-play.

You've got it all. It is glory, if you look at it from that. And it isn't just a boomer take on things, like the way that they've set it up. They have actually gone and created a type of broadcast that didn't exist a year ago. They've already done it with the Manning cast. I'd think that we're looking at something special.

They were all together, like at this dog and pony show at the ESPN. I don't know if it was ad sales, up front, whatever. And the four of them were together. They're all looking at it like they're on the same team. I'm sure they look at it like the money makes any sort of rivalry or eyeballs that are being taken away, you know, not a problem. And I do think Monday night football, I think it matters materially. Because like, what are we talking about? It needs to return to some glory.

NFL's dominant. It's already there. We are talking. Everyone is talking about Monday night football on Tuesday. but there is something that the schedule looks better on paper this year. I don't know if they had to do with Aikman and Buck or if that had to do with Thursday night not getting as good games. Hold, I'm getting a vision.

Okay. It did have something to do with Akeman and Buck. It felt like it. They took some from Thursday, gave it to Monday. And most importantly, is the game, and this is partly why we talk about it so much. It's the one game of the week where we're just watching. Oh, yeah.

And there's no distraction on Sundays. There's no podcast we're doing immediately after, like on Thursdays potentially or like finishing certain columns we're writing that night. No, I mean, it's the time. Yeah, you are. I mixed it up there. It's fine. Sorry, bro.

What are doing over there, Dan? I want to do something real quick before we say goodbye. Because we are really, it has been a science. seismic off season in the booth I want you guys to there are five different teams here ESPN Fox CBS NBC and Amazon five points to your favorite booth for to your second favorite three to your third to your second to last one to your least favorite booth well this is let's do this is tricky is on the fly this is tricky because I like the mom I also need so close preseason power rankings need a pen yeah okay how about use a blue pen I never use blue man this is tough rarely but all right here we go I want to give it a four-way tie for first okay here we go but you can't Greg you just can't remember five points to your favorite oh it's tough oh stuff oh stuff Okay.

Not for me. I got my. All right. You want me to add them up? I think I could do it. Wait, number one is the one we like the most, right? The least. The least.

Oh, I messed up. Greg. I made it so clear. I repeated it like three times. So three, Greg, would stay the same. We could add it. Edit this out. Let's see the people need to know how it went.

All right. Here we go. Because when I saw Mark's list, I was like, huh, you have him first? That's surprising. All right, you guys speak amongst yourselves while I handle the tabulation. I mean, we are an edited program after the fact. Nope. We are on YouTube, though.

Right. Dan handling the math, though. Just do it. Check us out on YouTube. How are things, Greg, with you personally? Pretty good. Pretty good. How are things with you personally, Graber?

By the way. Grave-digger let it slip the name of his paramour. You can bleep it. That's actually kind of what I imagined the name to be. Yeah, that's in the wheelhouse. I feel like you guys knew that. See, well, you don't know how the old Zeus are driving the show here. It's getting a little driving the conversation.

I'm captivated by watching you add the numbers, but I'd like to spot check it as well. I mean, sometimes you've got to know strengths and weaknesses of the personnel. It's why I tried to volunteer. I thought you would see what I was doing there. No, I like this as a test. It's not that complicated. I like it as a test. But, Greg, you would have added it wrong.

You would have done it in the opposite. Well, I flipped it around once I realized. All right. We're coming up now. Oh, this is very tense. Wow. Here we go. We're coming up right.

Ooh, it's really close. Really close. Are there stark differences between it? I guess we can get into that. Okay, here we go. Here are the final. Bring that music back. Let's get the tension.

Um, here we go. The power preseason power rankings of the rejigger boots. Number one, 13 points. I already changed my mind. I want to change my. CBS. Nancy Romo. Hmm.

Number two. 12 points. Ooh, so close. Fox Excuse me, ESPN. Yeah, okay. Three. Ten points.

So very close, which is a good sign that they did a nice job here. Toriko and Collinsworth. After that, Fox, the Burkhart-Ulson team, seven points. and this one hurts Al Michaels

Kirk Herb Street, Amazon three points total we all were in lockstep I'm not surprised by that we just don't know it's like Al and Greg's going to do the math now that's fine

I want to change my answer already it's too late it's too late it's too late I was higher on Buck Ikeman not surprisingly than the two of you that actually makes sense sense. That all adds up to me. Maybe incorrectly. All right. Good stuff. Good app.

I mean, Mark voted to RICO and Collinsworth second to last. I was wondering how they didn't win. My issue is... I put him first. You don't like Collinsworth. Collinsworth is too fulxy for me. I don't find him funny. I use very good at what he does, but it's just taste. All right. Listen, that's your opinion and that's fine. Right. Now we're back in the realm of opinion. It seems to differ from how you two feel, which is, you know, I'll have to reconcile that on my own. Well, I would say there's going to be a lot of private introspection you'll have immediately following the show. All right. We'll be back on Thursday.

So make sure you check that out. Be there. And thank you to everybody for listening. Great to your Chris Wessling's voice there. Love it. Till Thursday, heed the call. You know, So,

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