NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - CeeDee Signs and Power Poll with Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Frelund

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Patrick Claybon and Cynthia Frelund to debut NFL Daily's 2024 Power Poll. Before the poll, the group gets caught up on the new news including CeeDee Lamb getting a new contract with the Cowboys (2:42). The Power Poll starts with the teams at the bottom of the power struggle (21:27), followed by those stuck in the void (30:47), teams that need to make the playoff (38:29), Super Bowl contenders (43:37) and is capped with the favorites to win it all (49:47). Note: time codes approximateNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. don't miss it listen to the move the sticks podcast on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts you get your podcasts welcome to nfl daily where they would never make up an injury about us before putting us on injured reserve for the season get them great i'm gregg rosenthal and i'm here in the Chris Wesleying podcast studio with Patrick Claibon and Cynthia Freeland. We're here, baby. Never had this trio as a podcast, but we have done a television show together for a few years, Game Day View.

Spoiler alert, it comes back. There we go. The Thursday. Friday. Friday, whatever. The day after the first game of the season. I'm excited for it. That's a show where we pick games, where we go through every games.

I like to think of it as man versus model and the model being Cynthia's computer system I thought it was just me I've gotten too old for that now darn it that is the way to characterize the show

I have not warranted inclusion sorry the description of the show because I have not Ben versus the model man versus model and Patrick's there too sorry actually

Patrick could be a model so it works out he's a really good actor live remember all of us are really good actors We were in a really fun commercial together. That was fun.

Little Little Caesars come back at us if you're involved in the 24th season. Still want to be a part of the family. Like we enjoy Little Caesars. I do think I have been in contention in all of these seasons. But then I really go on tilt at some point. And it just goes horribly wrong. And yeah, Cynthia and I have done this show. I think this is either the fifth or sixth season now.

I think it's sick. And I was not a competitor. I was not even close to winning. I thought he was going to say he wasn't a fan. The first three, but I'm a back-to-back defending champions. The model has got to step up. Model does. We're going to be doing some math today, actually.

I mean, it's going to be more fun than that. We did a power pole where we each submitted our power rankings. And in Cynthia's case, it's her win projection model, which is even more exciting to me. And we averaged them all together and we decided kind of going into the season. This is the last week, really, before our week one schedule. And I just kind of wanted to say, where are we? How do we view the league right now? And then we can look back on it at the end of the year.

That's how we looked at it. So we have some fun exercise this week. We have an AFC and NFC preview. Also coming up, I'm going to be going over all the cuts. And a few of them started on Monday, but for the most part, they're going to be happening on Tuesday. So I'll do that with Evan Silva. But before any of that, let's do some news. Lamb, it's done. It happened. He has signed with the Dallas Cowboys. And if you had to guess

what day would it possibly happen, I would have guessed the Monday, you know, almost two weeks before the season start. Because that just gives you enough time to sign. That was my guess for Trent Williams. That one hasn't happened yet. We'll talk about that in a second. But the financials, frankly, aren't that interesting. It's just Justin Jefferson, but a little less. Which, if I'm in the Cowboys front office, I'm just thinking, like, well, why didn't we just do that three months ago? Just take Justin Jefferson's contract, which was four for 140 with 110 guaranteed, and then say to CD, you're great. You haven't produced quite as much as Justin Jefferson. Let's go four for 136, 100 guaranteed.

And that gets the deal done, Cynthia. I mean, but he got his summer off. Yeah. I'm sure he did fun things, you know? Like, no, he didn't have to go to camp out here in California. He didn't even, he didn't have to do anything. Oxnard's nice, though. Oxnard is hot.

It's like, it's smoking up there sometimes. You're like, oh, it's like, I've been there and it's been like swampy. It's like a 20 minute ride from the beach. I mean, I'm not going to, I'm not going to stay in Ventura or something. They're not allowed to. But he's, he's been there before. Yeah. He's been there before.

He's done all of this. I'm with you. They needed you in the room, apparently. I would have hopped in there. CD could have given me a little bit of a percentage. 3%, I think. to say hey um why not do this because the price isn't going down no the price is never going to go down but it was like Colleen prophesized uh last week maybe all these things happen and we do DAC right as

the chiefs for getting their Super Bowl rings before the game on Thursday like maybe that that's how it all goes I guess that that's the bigger question and DAC's been practicing this whole time and yeah they gave 38 million dollars on the signing bonus for CD so that they could call it a record when the insider's report that it was a record signing bonus. Every agent wants some sort of record. And there's a way to slice it eight different ways. So he got that record. And it's well deserved.

Look, they've done a great job identifying talent in the draft. So you've got to give Cowboys credit for that. It's one reason why I'm not as worried about the Doron Bland injury because they've done a good job drafting cornerbacks and they have another guy ready to step in. I don't think Dak wants to sign with the Dallas Cowboys long term. I think he wants to push this into the future. What do you think? going to be a team you likes quarterback? I don't know who he's going to be, but I think

he wants to see what the world looks like next February and March. That's all. That he's reached this far, that he's annoyed enough with the situation, and knows he can make more money by just kind of kicking the can. Well, he's an athlete's first person, you know, they're located in Newport Beach, just saying. So I do know, I mean,

obviously, Asians can be anywhere and they go for any team, but I don't know. I just feel like, I'm with you. I don't think we see, I don't think we see Dak there next year, but that's not It's just informed by T leaves, not by math or data. Yeah, and there's no need for bombast from Dak. Like, what he said about previous quarterbacks and going to other teams,

I think it's entirely true. I think he would be just as comfortable being a Dallas Cowboy as he would, not being a Dallas Cowboy. And however... That's really mature now. And, like, I feel like it'd be more comfortable to be a quarterback of any team than the Dallas Cowboys. That's just...

This doesn't seem comfortable. And, yeah, I mentioned Trent Williams before. There was a report from ESPN, Jeremy Fowler, that Trent Williams is willing to... to skip games if he doesn't get his contract fix, which almost goes without saying. That's what a holdout is. But I think just the fact that that's getting pushed to the front right now on a day that I thought he might be signing, maybe tells you he's not as close to signing.

And he would be the rare player that I believe would push it into the regular season, just because he's made enough money that the money he's losing, maybe it isn't going to bother him that much. And he knows he's one of the greatest players of all time and he's 36 years old. That's a big part. I mean, he's already signed seal delivered to Canton, no matter what happens now, right? But I'm looking at the opportunity for him. And I watched that Raiders and Niners game. And I've said this now, Patrick's had to hear it like three times today. But Brock Pretty sliding was scary to me. Like, and that was a... Wait, why three times? You did Fantasy Live earlier. Everyone should check that out. It's on air now every day of the week. So check it out at 6 p.m.

And then we were sitting in the green room talking about it. And I brought it up again because you guys are just all about ball. It's all ball. All ball. I was just sitting by myself alone at the huddle, just eating. Why didn't you text us? Well, I texted you what the news rundown was going to be. I didn't know you.

That's on us for not being like, hey, Greg, we're downstairs. Okay. Cool kids. So you didn't like, you didn't like Brock Purdy sliding, yeah? No. It scared me. It scared me. It didn't look natural.

I mean, it just was not a baseball slide. It was like a, it was like my dogs pulled me down and I was a little, you know. Because this should almost go without saying, but if you had to choose as a 49ers fan, which player is more necessary to have the top shelf offense that we need on the field. Iuke or Trent Williams, it's Trent Williams just because of how great a player in the position he plays. Yes. And I don't get the logic that like, well, if we do this with Trent, you don't, like you don't have to treat anybody else like Trent. Like Cynthia said, Trent's going to the Hall of Fame.

Trent had people mess with his money throughout his career. Had a team in a GM, like massage a cancer diagnosis. Like, Trent's been through a lot. Like, just give Trent his money, get him on the football field and try to win in Super Bowl. It seems weird. The Auk stuff is weird to me. The Trent stuff is even weird to me. And Ayuk was at that game traveling with the team to the Raiders.

It really seems to me like that is just a matter of time. All right, we're going to go quickly through the rest of the news, But there were some just interesting nuggets. The Dolphins, their head coach, Mike McDaniel, said Bradley Chub, Isaiah Wynn, going to the PUP list. Odell Beckham's uncertain. So they're not putting him on it now, which to me says they're hopeful, I think, that he plays in the first few weeks of the season. But they also literally have not seen him practice yet. And he didn't practice on Monday.

Yeah, it was a little. I mean, the dolphins, if you look at their team as like a healthy team, it's a good team. with all of these injuries, it starts to become a little less. The picture becomes a little less rosy, you know, especially in the AFC East, which is a weirdly volatile, it's a very volatile division. I got to start looking at the lines for week one because dolphins, Jaguards. Like, dolphins to me are the classic, like, man, they're a tough week one team to talk about because of the injuries you talked about.

But also because, like, Mike McDaniel has now a two-year history of cooking up some insane stuff week one that just blasts the other thing. Who do you trust more? Mike McDaniel, architecting plays, or Press Taylor? That's the question. I would go Mike McDaniel in that Jaguar. Just saying. Just saying.

Another Chub, Bradley's brother, Nick, will also be on PUP. But the Brown's activated. That's not new. I mean, we knew. No, we kind of knew that. It's official now, but we knew. It's just checking the box. I was pleasantly surprised Jalen Phillips is back practicing close to full right now

in my play week one. Sounds like you will, which is great news for the dolphins. But yes, Nick Chub, to PUP was not a surprise. And they activated a four pack of starters, O'Dalvin Tomlinson, Judgeick Wills, Jack Conklin, and Greg Newsombe. So that's good.

Wills and Conklin, to me, and Greg Newsom, too. But in the back, like, that's a great defense. But, like, let's, that O line is a big deal. Because we have, I don't know what I'm looking at with that Browns offense. Yeah. And we don't know if they're going to be ready for week one. We'll get that next week. But that's just kind of checking box on a story in terms of the Browns.

We followed a lot. The Seahawks lost Uchena Nuoosu. He only played a handful of snaps. He was going to play one series in that last preseason game. Unfortunately, got injured, hurt his knee. He's a candidate for injured reserve. The prognosis is two to six weeks. They just traded away a pass rusher.

And so then they just traded back for a pass rusher. So they traded Daryl Taylor to the Bears, but then they get Patrick Travis Gibson from the Jaguars. You just kind of hate to see them lose. Who I would say if you had to choose one is maybe their most important edge rusher and maybe just defensive lineman, period,

Ucheninuos. Yeah, I don't think it was a probably about it. And then we saw last year because Mike Max defense was so good, like the contributions from Jedevi and Clowny, especially like early on in the season, we're so key and like that edge piece is such a key part. And now they're clearly scrambling

to do a replacement where just at a time where these guys aren't available. Like there's nobody to go get off the couch or in a deal. if they're valuable, unless, of course, it's somebody maybe in New York that maybe they don't want to pay and maybe we could

that would be fun, but they've already traded for Travis Gibson. So they traded a... I don't know if Travis Gibson precludes you from from doing that move. I guess you're right. That was like a late round pick. And if the Jaguars are giving up on you as an edge guy, it's probably not a great sign, but he's been a backup

for the Bears before. That is a rare case. People always say like, hey, you're putting the tape out there for all the other other 32 teams, but you'd actually don't actually see that many players get claimed off waivers or things happen. But Travis Gibson had like a great preseason game right before this trade. And so that that probably helped him. Yeah. Juju Smith-Schuster is back with the Chiefs. I was a little surprised about this. I guess it's, for she Rice insurance. I think it's more familiarity with the scheme because now you've got, you know, Hollywood, you've got Xavier Worthy, you have some injuries. And then now you got a guy who

knows how to run like he knows a playbook i i'm not suggesting it's helpful from the standpoint of fantasy or he's not going to be catching a bunch of touchdowns but i i just think it creates a little bit more depth and you don't have to teach someone something they already know yeah especially considering like hollywood's had the health concerns uh this preseason as well you get some you get a guy who knows where to go and and how to play within the davis kelsey's still there they're fine it's i think they're fine but the vibe it might be maybe it's more vibes too like i can't imagine Judea Smith-Suster is active on game day for the Chiefs. This is a good wide receiver group. And Ju-Ju-Smiths'rudey Smith-Schuster did not get cut from the Patriots because, like, he was a

problem. It was because he couldn't play football anymore. Like his body, unfortunately, I think all those blocks and the way he played football, kind of like a young Heinz Ward, it happens in football. The body just broke down where, by all accounts, in Patriots camp, he couldn't move. He couldn't separate. And they owed him $8 million guaranteed. And they still. him. So we'll see. I guess it's just insurance. Maybe he's someone that really is there in case Rishi Rice gets hurt. That's my theory. All right, two other weird stories. I mentioned Erdus Jones, the show with Nick, is on the trade block from the Rams. It was clear it came from the team, not from the player. Just a little update that he's not even with the Rams anymore

at practice. And Sean McVeigh was uncertain if he ever would be again. And so that says to me they've just kind of decided they're going to trade this dude for whatever reason. We can get into another time when it actually happens. But the fact he's away from the team tells me it's probably it for him, which is interesting. It had a nice run, was a team captain, helped them win a Super Bowl. And I think they're going to end up starting this undrafted kid, Omar Spate, who they're really high on at middle linebacker. And then finally, this is minutia that not many shows would bother to cover. But I found it interesting. Did you see the third quarterback rule? today, Cynthia? Okay, how do we explain this? We thought because the owners approved a rule

that you could bring a guy from your practice squad as your third quarterback to the active roster for games that it would be easier for teams to kind of keep a third quarterback and then you keep activated them. It's very small minutia. I didn't know this was a thing, but the NFLPA, the Players Association, had to approve that. So it really wasn't a rule. And the Players Association said no. The takeaway for me is just that teams are more likely to keep quarterbacks right now when they're cutting down their players to 53 this week. Right. It just means they're on the active as opposed to on the practice squad. Yes. They're trying to, I think the, the spirit of it is to not hoard people on your

practice squad, but now you're just going to hoard them on your 53. Like, there aren't 32 great, like there aren't 32 amazing quarterbacks, let alone 64 or 96. Like, you know, it's, it's, it's it's hard to find, to get quarterback right, especially with injuries. I find this stuff interesting. I guess the reason they've pushed against this most likely is they just want the active roster to be bigger. Stop pretending the practice squad is your active roster for people who don't pay attention to this type of stuff, which is 99% of the people that, you know, love football.

They've really changed the practice squad significantly year after year after year where it's this huge thing that you really have. have a 70 man roster and you can do all these elevations. And that I kind of like, but just, just make it active. And so that's going to all be part of like the next CBA and making the 18th game if they re-signed stuff. But it never made sense to me. Like, why can't we have more than 48 players active on a game day, Patrick?

I don't know. Let's carve it out right now. Let's carve it out right now. Let's make this particular point in negotiation. And let's go from 53 to something else because I definitely understand the PA's position in this where we're doing all this manipulation with. the practice squad and the elevations. Let's just pay somebody.

Right. And they do get paid if they're on the active roster, right? Exactly. So when they elevate them. Yeah, active has a minimum. Practice does not. And then, yeah, it's very, it's very confusing. You know, that's the other thing I will say just to put a point on like things people

don't like look at. I think the extra coach's challenge flag is the same thing. Nobody's thinking about it. We're all talking to the new kickoff rule. Blah, blah, blah, kickoff rule. Well, now you don't have to get both of your challenges right to have the third. challenge. You just have three. Like, before you had to get your both challenges right, you just have to get one of the two right now to earn a third challenge. That's going to take certain coaches

who are very smart with it up a level. They're going to get another timeout, basically. And then eventually, and I hope to and plan to be doing this NFL daily show a long time. Well, it's daily, so you have to do it every day forever. If we can somehow remember this, Eric, in the year 2026 when this comes true, eventually they're going to just let it. Eventually, they're going to just let you have as many challenges as you want if you keep being right. Because it's still stupid. There will be one game where some coach goes three for three and then there's another fourth call and then when after that game happens, then they'll change the rule.

They always wait for like a dumb reason. What if hypothetically? Yeah. We just fix all the mistakes without anybody being involved. That would be fun too. I'll be down without the challenges. Yeah, I'll be down. That could happen sometime too.

That would be from the eye. But think about it though now, but in the way. it currently is, you only have to be right on half of those two challenges. Why wouldn't you take one that's dicey? Yeah, you should. You get an extra time. It's going to be annoying to slow down the game a little bit, but that's how it always should have been. Anyways. So I

like it better. We're not breezing through any of these games anywhere. I know, Patrick, but pace of sports. We're sitting there the entire day on Sunday. Pace of sports, you can feel it. It matters that the 301 length game, it feels way better than the 314. I just, especially as someone

that's been watching, we've been watching football our whole lives if you're a fan like the 255 game feels great the 320 game doesn't feel good i'm just telling you it makes it i could not tell you the length of any particular football game that i enjoyed well after the fact no but while you're watching that's what matters you know what else matters a lot is our power pole i mean this is going to determine who's mad and who's happy among all the fan bases we're going to take a quick break and yes we're going to come back and reveal who are the best teams and the worst teams and the worst teams teams in the NFL, because we know.

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Yeah. And two co-hosts, but only one. It was me. Celebrated a birthday this weekend. Oh, thanks. Happy birthday to Cynthia Freeland. Thanks. What did you do?

Nothing too crazy, you know, went to the beach, hung out a little bit, chilled out. The dogs were especially nuts. So we have two now. Two rescue dogs. One came from the draft. His name's Clyde. He's getting settled in.

Well, you got one of the dogs that were, on the stage at the draft or in that, from that group. That's pretty incredible. Yeah. Because I think if, you know, our listeners watch the draft, they saw the whole, the dog thing's a thing now at the draft and you have one of those. Does that make them more valuable, like more lovable? Yeah, people, he's the most lovable.

I mean, they're both the most lovable. But here's the thing. I don't think you know, like, the cool part of the draft is all the wood and, like, the materials from the draft they made into a homeless shelter and a spay and neuter center. So pretty cool, like, recycling effort of that huge thing that they built. and not going to lie, like, Clyde just stole my heart. And I didn't even, you know, didn't ask Kyle, just showed up at home.

Shut up. Your significant other, Kyle. Here's not your other dog. No, well, I didn't ask Gordy either. Yes, yeah, just wanted to clarify. Yeah, but I just showed up. But Cynthia, I got to say, you know, I've known her a long time, she's doing L.A. right. Patrick and I are close.

We love our families. We're close-ish to the beach, but just to live, like, right there in the beach town. If you're going to live in L.A., just do it all the way. And you do. You guys did it right because, like, you had your children at, like, a normal age. Well, I'm not getting into the children part of it. I'm more getting into the location. Right.

We're like, what I think we're called, like, dinks. What does that mean? Dual income, no kids. Okay. So dinks, it's a little easier to live at the beach. I don't like that phrase because it just sounds negative. No, it's a great thing. I'm happy for that.

A bunch of things. Actually, I'll steal one of your kids. Breaking news. They're getting too old for that. They'll be in college before you read. I'll give them back for them because that sounds expensive. So we each submitted our power pool. We did it a little differently because I just thought,

I know how Cynthia's mind works and her mind works through the machine, through the model. And so I just asked for her win projections because the amount of numbers and everything that goes into those projections are more significant, I would say, than Patrick and I just doing it. the top of our head. So why don't we take those numbers and combine them with what Patrick and I are doing off the top of our head and create an ultimate poll that can't be wrong? So we're going to go through in a bunch of different tiers. I named the tiers. In the first tier,

we're going to go bottom to top is called the season ends in week 18. Now, in general, we're not saying these are predictions exactly. It's just where they're at right now. But I just decided that these eight teams, it would be very surprising if they made the playoffs. And the NFL, we're selling hope at this time of year. And so when I think hope, I think you got a chance to make the playoffs.

And look, the teams on this list, they have a chance. But to me, they are the eight teams how I would categorize it if they made the playoffs. I personally would be surprised. Number 32, the Patriots. Wow, sad times.

31, the Panthers. Number 30, Giants, this isn't nice music. Number 29, the Broncos. I think it. The music is perfect. Number 28, the Titans. I like how you said that. Titans. I drop that T-off into now I'm trying to make it.

Yeah, yeah, no, I like it. The Raiders are 27. Commanders at 26, a little higher than I would expect it. And 25, Cardinals a little higher than I would have expected. So maybe I'll start there. You guys are a little higher on the commanders than I was when I looked at all of our boards that you know putting in another 25 like why another team in your division also appears on that list it just makes it a little bit easier okay that helps yeah the significant gap there and

already said i was irrationally a little too high on the washington commanders and i'm sticking with that i a couple of those teams are significantly below where i had the commanders and so that that's it you had him 25 by the way and cynthia had him 24 overall so you you were pretty much aligned i was the only one yeah i had a bottom three i was i just look at everything but Jaden Daniels and Terry McLaurin and think, I don't know, doesn't look very good in the defensive tackles

and maybe the, you know, coaching staff as a whole. I like Dan Quinn, like as a whole and maybe on defense. No, I think as a guy who maybe can bring a team together, yeah.

I think I'd flip the Broncos and the Raiders. I'm glad you brought up Broncos. Yeah. You were on the sideline. It was. Preseason. But I would flip them

and I also went to Raiders camp too. so I've seen them both live and up close and in person. But I think I would flip the Broncos and the... I actually had the Broncos much higher than the two of you, which surprised me. You had them second to last, Patrick. You were in between me. And I didn't think I had them that high,

but I guess, Patrick, you're not really buying or feeling the positive preseason vibes. I feel like no fan base in the entire league has better vibes just based off the last month where, like, suddenly they think they... are contenders. And most importantly, the last three weeks

of those months. Yeah. Because when I was at Bronco's training camp, it was not pretty. It was decidedly not pretty. I remember on this show, I said,

I thought Jared Stidham was going to win the job. I told that, Cynthia was like, no, Patrick. This is Bo Nix's job. And apparently, Bo really got a whole lot better after I left.

And I'm glad that he did. But I still don't, like, just looking at the rest of the roster and the way things are, it's tough for me to have them that much higher than everybody else

that we had in that group. I just, I think that the think that the thing with the the thing that the Broncos have going for them is they're all rowing in the same direction this year. You know, they're a really young team. They're very

like they decided to be Bill Parcell's model. They have big pass catchers. They're all huge. Like, you know, don't even let their names fool you. Little Jordan Humphrey. He is massive. Right? So all big receivers, big targets. Greg Dulcich is back who you know

a, you know, a Sean Payton offense. executes best when there's a really great tight end and Bo Nix listens to what his coach wants him to do and does it. Sure. As opposed to the last quarterback. Yeah. It could be an upgrade.

But he's like a hall of fame. Like Sean Taylor is the best ever do it. Absolutely. Vance Joseph, you know, just hasn't had a difference making defense in a while. Listen, you put a white corner in and I love you. Riley Moss, baby.

He might be. Do it, Riley. Cooper Dejean to. Oh, I think he will. I haven't seen Cooperity. The starting lineup, yes. But Riley Moss actually played really, really well. Like, it was really impressive to watch it.

And I, I mean, Pat Surtan is quietly, should be getting paid. Like, quietly not saying all the things that. Yeah. You know, Sean Payton, when he's asked about Patrick Sertan, is a little cagey that, like, hey, he's kind of, he kind of is like, he's got to prove it to me. Then he, he's downing his a year ago. It's just a small thing. I have to admit, though, Patrick, I hate this.

This is the problem with the preseason. because I was very down on this Broncos team is just like they're not talented enough. They're fun though. They're having fun on the sideline. And this whole vibes thing plus Sean Payton is just telling you.

He like can't lose more than nine games. It's just kind of been proven. Okay. So far and last year, even last year he didn't. And so then now it's like, now I kind of see it. So I was the one who ranked them higher than you guys.

I just had him like 24th or whatever. But I just thought, okay, maybe they're just going to be seven and nine again. Maybe I was wrong. But I hate falling for the vibes in this month. Okay, but the run game, you don't have to fall for the vibes, but the run game and stopping the run are two at Barron Browning starting the season, not injured.

There's a lot of good things going on. I mean, Malcolm Roach came in there with all of it. He's like the most fun. I want to have a deal with him. Okay, Broncos employee. I get it. I'm just telling you what I saw firsthand and it was good things. And by the way, fantasy players, we do fantasy, whatever.

Giovante Williams looks great. And so does Audric Estimate. Audric Estimate, Notre Dame. His biceps, are the size of, like, tree trunks. Shook-like. Nick Shook-Lew. They look like Nick Shook's arms.

And he's not as tall as Nick Shook. Nick Shook's much bigger man than Audrey. I'm like, geez. Which is even more impressive for Shook that he's... Sure. He's got the pythons like that at his height. It's incredible. But it's...

He finally didn't wear a tank top on our Sunday night show. Why? It was nice to me. Let's talk Titans before we get out of this. By the way, let's just rest in peace. Titan. New England Patriots. just that, okay, they're, they're dead last

and they're the Vegas favorite for the first overall pick and everyone's just like, yep. I had them 20. I had a fourth to last Patriots fans out there, but these two guys... I had them last before I saw the offensive line in the preseason game, I wish there was a 33. One thing I'll say about that offensive line

is almost none of those players are going to be playing the same position in week one. Now, that's a problem in itself, but they were trying something and... It didn't work. It didn't work. They're just not showing us, let's put a positive. extra cage.

They're not showing us anything, you know? I like their quarterback better than a lot of this bottom tier. I will say that. Like I said, Cardinals, commanders, Raiders. Yeah, Cardinals getting a little bit of love up towards the top of this. Raiders, Titans, Broncos, Giants, Panthers, Patriots. Let's just talk Titans very quickly because I feel like they are the team I have not talked about. Yeah, they get like lost in the sauce.

Like, I feel like I don't hear as much about them either. I am hopeful that Brian Callahan and his pops can. create a watchable offense because of the offensive line, just improving that much. If you go from 32nd, 31st offensive line to 13th or 14th through scheme, then suddenly the guys they have can look a lot better and we'll love us as a little fun. Do you have any hope for the, is there anyone in this group, by the way, where you think they do have a playoff chance, a real playoff chance? I'm trying to remember the group again. Yeah, I'm not going to say and say that they have no chance.

Yeah, not no chance, but you would be surprised. I would be significantly surprised. I have them just behind a few teams that I also don't think are going in the playoffs, but I don't think. Titans. They're not in my bottom tier where it's like, I would be shocked. Yeah, look, the Titans, if they can, if they can, I just have a lot of questions, right? You know, obviously DeAndre Hopkins not playing the beginning.

Like, that's a big loss, big target there. It's a Calvin Ridley's team now? What? Like, that's been some weird reports about Calvin Ridley in practice, but we'll see. Right. That's what I mean. Like, you've been hearing all these conflicting things and then you have some like pieces on the defense. Like, maybe we're all not seeing anything, right?

Maybe we just have no idea. Tough division too. Tough division. Very exciting division. Up and coming division. So I don't know. Like, that's not the one I would pick on that list that had the better change. Okay.

Shout out to the Cardinals just for getting to 25. Yeah. I think they've got, they've got some uphill. uphill climb here to be a good team but the fact that they're 25 helps when you have a quarterback

we believe in you Cardinals all right our next group and this is the smallest one that we have I call this trapped in the nether world yes number 24 Vikings number 23 Chargers

and number 22 Saints these are the teams that are just kind of like in the Bermuda triangle of like the NFL to me right now Vikings Chargers Saints. Where are they? We don't know. They're trapped in the netherworld, Patrick. And also, I love the music. The netherworld sounds frightening.

It's creeping me out, literally. Yeah, especially considering the quarterback in this particular group, like one of them being Sam Darnold, and so there's a Sam Darnold factor there. But between Carr and Herbo, like, these guys have won a lot of games. And you wonder what the particular. I thought you were going to say one quarterback really stands out out of these three. Well, yeah, for sure, he does. But everything that changed, they lose so much talent.

And I'm not necessarily the biggest Greg Roman fan or believer. And so that's where I had them there. I'm a little surprised that you guys kind of felt the same way I did about the Chargers. But with so much talent leaving, like, where is it coming from? I understand that they want to run the football. I don't think they've made any, I mean, clearly. And I think taking Joe out was a great decision. It doesn't make this year easier, though.

And is Ladd McConkey going to be your lead receiver? I don't know. Even if he's awesome, that's still a rookie. And rookies notoriously have a hard time against these NFL defenses. They're not easy to pick up right away. And you're in the AFC West, for goodness sake. That's what was a guy that was like a role player more or less in college. I mean, he just wasn't like a one.

You know what I mean? I'm just saying that it's confusing. Right. Like, I like him. I think for fantasy, he could be a great pick. Like for a later round guy, like, cool. But for real football. all hard to, hard to distinguish.

I actually thought that those saints were going to be down in that, not making the playoffs division. So I wanted to separate these three because, well, look, it's how the numbers spit them out, too, but I thought they fit well together. No, they do for sure. I think they could make the playoffs. In fact, we haven't done our predictions here, but I look at this exercise power ranking as different than predictions.

If you're telling me the Chargers get that last AFC spot because they have a great coach and a great quarterback. they scheme up their defense a little bit, that to me wouldn't be that surprising. Like the Saints, they won nine games last year, and there's a reason to believe they're the same, essentially. And the Vikings are actually sneaky talented. Well, here's the one thing.

The little trick of the schedule, the NFC South plays the AFC West. So it would be more likely, in my view, that the Chargers would make it than the Saints because then, you know, like the Chargers get to play, perhaps, you know, some other teams that appear like the Panthers, right? like so and I know that the Saints do too but the Saints also have to play the cheap like it's just

I'm debating between Chargers and Jags maybe as like my surprise is with the Jags be surprised I don't know just no one's paying attention to them that's all definitely not Greg okay what do you mean I'm just kidding frisky it's yeah it's

I feel the the Jags defensive doubts have been strong in your mind for for a couple of years let's go to the next one because the Jags are in it here we go it's called frisky and these are just these are just the team that I consider frisky. 21, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Number 20, the Chicago Bears.

Not as much love as I expected. Number 19, the Steelers. Number 18, the Colts. Number 17, the Jaguars. Number 16, the Seahawks. Number 15, the Browns. Now, Patrick, you mentioned Jacksonville. I've had doubts about that defense.

I've got to say, having John Shipley on the show and hearing about Ryan Nielsen, sometimes scheme can make up a big difference. Trivon Walker's a little better. Okay. I'm a little more thinking about, okay, this could be a good year for Trev and people are kind of forgetting about them.

But I really like the Colts too. I had a hard time separating those two teams. I had them both of them. I had actually a little higher than this 17-18 ranking. Wow, the Bucks are the last group, the last team in this. I think they're frisky,

and they're not even in the same category as the Falcons because of you guys. No love for the Bucks? It's not no love. anti- it's not being anti-bucks it's i i appreciate those teams uh that are ahead of them i too like the the colts and the jags i think being in the division with the texans makes things a little more difficult for them but as far as the overall i mean you can say that but you can also rank them 20th no when i have them 16 yeah i'm just saying the results may not may not ultimately reveal

like my particular rankings okay but that's because the results don't always indicate how good the actual football team you have the jags though patrick and And we'll move to you, Cynthia, significantly higher than the cold. So between those two teams, why do you like the Jags? Why do you put them a little higher? I think experience as well as continuity. And I like, I like you, value what John says about the Jags. And I think they're getting better.

My only rank, like the reason that the Bucks end up becoming low for me is because my model doesn't love the South in general. So it's very narrow between who comes out of it, between the Falcons and the Bucks. I think it's hard when we have yet to see them have like a very consistent run game and no matter what quarterback you are, that is hard to do. I do love that Mike Evans and Chris Godwin both seem to be healthy and Godwin's back in the slot. That is good. But it's very hard to consistently,

they've got a lot of turnover on their defense. And I know Todd Bowles is a defensive-minded head coach, but I still need to see it all kind of put together. Yeah. And this exercise, again, it's a power ranking. It's not exactly like our predictions for the season. We see the Browns as a mid-level team. team and we see. Well, the Browns, no, no, no. They are an elite defense, best defense,

one, two, maybe. But I don't know. What am I looking at with the offense? And when will Nick Chubbe back? I love Nick Chub. But like, I don't, I'm confused. I want to know what I'm looking at in the offense. I want consistency. Someone pointed out, now I forget who it was, a stat that shook me. I'm down on the Browns relatively because of their defense, not because they won't be good, but just because they won't be as good. And I think it was that they gave up 29 plus points per game on the road last year. I was just like, man, that's half the season. They were a bad defense.

They were literally one of the worst defenses. And they were so dominant. And it's just kind of random and it's schedule and backups. And so, yeah, like them and the Seahawks to me were perfect teams to be 15 and 16. No, I'm with you on that. Because each of those teams, I think they certainly have a chance to make the playoffs. I think each of those teams have a chance to win the division if everything goes right. Because the talent that they do have is like top tier talent.

And that's what defines a frisky team. What do you think of my title of the... I love frisky because those teams, every team that's within frisky has a propensity, has a quarterback that can put that can put points on the board and maybe can be erratic.

Like Baker could light it up with anybody, but also... Caleb too. I think Caleb's going to be... I'd rather have Caleb than Baker. Obviously, even this year, by a decent amount. And yet, I think he's going to have some magical games and he'll have some learning moments to the Steelers you know probably lower today than they would have been if we did this exercise a month ago I think they are taking a little bit of heat a little bit

maybe even unfair just recency bias because just the preseason's left a bad taste in her mouth let's go and so all those teams we think at least for me I'm speaking for myself that if they made the playoffs wouldn't be that big of a surprise so we're like we have about 21 of those teams where I think their fans would be kind of disappointed if they didn't make the playoffs so that's why yep it's tough The next one, it's more definitive. If these five teams don't make the playoffs, it kind of equals problems, whether that means changes in staff in terms of coaching or just criticism from their fan base.

Like, their fans expect them to make the playoffs. Let's take a look at it. Number 14, the Falcons. Number 13, the Jets. Number 12, the Rams. Number 11, the Cowboys. And how about the Dolphins sneak? in the top 10 here, but I was a little harsh and decided to cut the tier line right there.

I wasn't going to put them in the tier above, even though the numbers kind of said I should have. So that's where you can just put your finger on the scale if you host the freaking show, Cynthia. I like it. The dolphins, to me, a lot of that comes down to injuries. Like, I mean, and look, I'm going to be, I'm not going to be popular for saying this, but do we really seeing the Cowboys are that good? Do we, we had them 11th? Of course, all Cowboys fans expect them to go playoff.

12 games the last two years. So they have a great quarterback. Yes. And they have. And CD? If I, you know, to me, the best defensive player in the world. If I had to choose one. Agreed.

So. But I'm really worried about their O line. And Ezekiel Elliott forecast to be their starting right back. I'm just saying like, I'm just a little, like, that one's a little, that one's a little high for me. Okay. But they get to play in the east. I mean, I'm pushing back on you. And yet when it comes to predictions, like I might not, I might not.

I might just have them out of the playoffs because I feel like I need to have a few teams in and out and I'm not picking them to win the division. Right. So, like, there's a chance there that it falls apart a little, but power rankings-wise, when you just look at experience coaching staff, the roster that they have,

I'm even feeling a little better about these rookie offensive linemen. What stands out to you out of that group, Patrick? It's the dolphins. I have the dolphins significantly higher than that. I understand that there's been... Oh, that was... You were the one that did it. So you had Dolphins six.

Dolphins 6th. You were the one that did it. It's me. Cynthia had a nine. And I had him 12. I have him high too. It's just all about injuries. Okay.

Six. That's awesome. Like why? I think time together. Continuities was the biggest part of the way that I put my list together. Ultimately you've seen the Chiefs went back to back Super Bowls. They've been able to maintain continuity among key parts of the staff and the team. And I just think the longer you keep a group together, the better of the better of the

results get as other teams, like some that we'll talk about coming up here, are getting worse. I think there's some title contenders that are actually getting worse. And if those teams are getting worse, then you've got teams that are up and coming to get better. And I think Miami falls into that. But we know, we'll see. We'll see how things get. A lot of questions, though. Offensive line, defensive line. I feel like that. Agreed. I think the east, of all the divisions, the AFC East comes down to people's availability. There's a lot of players on the bills. There's a lot of injured players on the Dolphins. There's a lot of injured players. Or

the Jets maybe don't have people coming. You have the Jets 10th, which was higher than Patrick by a good amount. Patrick had him in the middle. I was kind of between you too. And then I notice you have Bill's Dolphins Jets 8, 9, 10. So you see those three AFCE teams very close. What happens is when you do projections, when things are close, it gets close to 0.5, right?

So I don't have anyone in that division having like 0.6 wins, meaning 60% of the time they win. And you know how finicky the model, as you both do. So I think, like, it's going to be, it's very volatile, like the stock market the past few weeks. A lot of VIX. The VIX is high here. Rams, I think, would have gotten a little more pop coming into this season. They're 12th here. Falcons are 14th. If it wasn't for the preseason injuries, just dimming them just a little bit. Injuries, they were, it was a

totally, like that number significantly changed. They're, they're the, a lot of these teams to me are boom or bust. Actually, I should have called that the section. Not just no playoffs equals problems. boom or bust because Dolphins, Cowboys, Rams, Jets, Falcons to me, high ceiling, also could easily miss the playoffs and that wouldn't shock me. I'm not as high on the Falcons as you guys. I just

got to see it. To me, a lot of questions on the defense and even the offense, which has a lot of name value, I got to see it. Although I looked at their schedule and, man, after their buy, if you were trying to create and who knows how it's going to work out, but if you were trying to create like the easiest

six or seven game slate, you possibly could, That's what the Falcons are after they're by. If the Falcons don't win, that's the biggest no problem. Like, like, if they, this is it. Like, they push all. Yeah, but here's the thing. That's a new staff. And, uh, I know it's a new G, it's not a new GM.

People have gotten fired after one year before in life. Like, all they got to do is like win nine games. No one's. I just think, no, I just think if they don't somehow make the playoffs, it's going to be. Well, that's true. Yeah, that's true of the Jets and the Cowboys, certainly of this tier. All right. Let's take a quick break and then we'll hit the final two tiers.

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Back on NFL Daily. You've waited all show to find out who are the nine teams. Nine. That are the very best in the NFL. And this next tier is five of them. I'm calling just, it wouldn't be a shock if we made the Super Bowl. I'm using that word. If you see these teams in the Super Bowl, it wouldn't be that surprising.

So let's start at number nine, the Packers, who I expect are going to get a lot of, like, they make the Super Bowl love. I was thinking to go in that way. Number eight, Bengals. Number seven, Eagles. You were thinking of picking the Packers to win the Super Bowl? All off season, I thought I was going to, and then I'm coming off of it now. Oh, spoiler alert.

Six bills, five Texans. How about the Texans being in the top five after being 32 in this exercise if we did it a year? it go. That's an awesome group. And where do we want to start? How about the Bengals, Cynthia? You had him number five, I believe. So that was the highest of the three of us. And I wanted you to talk about it. Fourth place schedule, baby. Yeah. That's a huge deal. Fourth place schedule for Joey B and his guy Jamar Chase, who I fully expect to be all good. He's practicing now. He's practicing, which means likely playing. I'm not breaking new here because we're we don't know, but, um, you know, I, I think it's very interesting how things like these small,

those three unique games can make such a big difference, especially in the north where that's the most difficult division in football in my estimation. So that's truly. Yeah, you had them ahead of the Ravens by a tiny, tiny. And in this exercise, Patrick and I, in it, to me, it's power rankings who has the best team where they're at now. Well, we had a pretty big gap between the Ravens. I know you power ranked it, but I did it by winter. I know. I'm just saying, no, I think, I think. I think the Ravens are a better team, but I think the Bengals have a better schedule. It's a good combo.

You had them at 10th, which is relatively low, but I guess not. They finished eighth, and they're in this group where you wouldn't be surprised to be covering Joe Burrow and New Orleans. Oh, not at all. And I think they are a better team than they were last year. That would be fun. Even without, right, the Burrow, Joe being back is something I talked about all last season. We actually talked about earlier today that the Bengals lost like 96% of their snaps at safety. And then they come into last season, and it looked bad on the back end.

And so they go get Gino Stone, Von Bell comes back. It seems like an admission, okay, we need that. Yeah. And so I feel better about the team as a whole. And I think Andre Yoseva's looked incredible. Complete player, I think. The whole time that I was there for Bengals Camp. And so I believe in the offense.

I think the defense is better. I think they're a good team. It's funny. The Texans finished fifth. None of us actually had them as high as five, but it was just 6-7-6. We all see them in that group. The talent's pretty overwhelming.

Eagles was a team that I thought I'd be the highest on. I had him seventh. Cynthia had him second. Love it. They might be my Super Bowl team. You know, I don't do this, but I have to look and see how everything shakes out once all these 53 are set. But I kind of wanted to.

I'm thinking about them. I picked them to the Super Bowl the last two years. One year, that was a fiasco. One year, it was fantastic. So, I don't know. I mean, the way that I, this one's interesting because I think they're super boomer bust. Like if things start to go a little teeter tottery for them, like that could be the ones who, like, I think that they're just by talent alone. Exactly.

Really, really strong team. But if, so if something did go wrong, I do see this as being like, like, that would be terrible. So they, but you know what, the Niners who are the other class of the division or class of the NFC to me, they're seemingly in a lot of question marks too. So who's unquestioned marquee? Nobody. That's a great question. I had the bills higher than you guys. I would have had them in my first tier.

I just, I don't get the, I don't know if doubt's the right word, but you have the dolphins ahead of the bills, for instance, Patrick. I don't know. To me, it's just like they are the closest thing to the chiefs in the NFL. I know they haven't won the Super Bowls, and he's not Patrick Mooms. He's not, but they are. the other team, 49ers, obviously, but I meant in the AFC,

just like they're so consistent. They, I just know who they are on defense in terms of the schematic advantage McDermott provides, and I know who Josh Allen is, and I'm not really worried about anything else. I'm worried about the defense. Yeah, okay.

Matt Milano, not being there, huge. Their safeties are completely different. You guys have them eighth. It's not like you have them buried, but you do have them a tier lower than they probably would have been the last few years in this exercise. Right now, I mean, this is the first time

we'll see the no Micaheahide or Jordan Poyer at safety. in however many years. That's a big thing. And they're two starting corners and there are three starting corners. The best one's probably Tehran Johnson. Like, that's scary, man.

I'm going to need somebody on the defensive side of the ball to be closer to Chris Jones before I say that they're the closest thing to the Kansas City Chiefs. What about Vaughn Miller? No. I mean, we got 2014, Vaughn, like, busting through.

Yeah, but it's just, it's all Josh. And I love Josh, but it can't just all be Josh. at this point. It seems like... Good line, good system. I think good depth throughout the depth chart. Not wide receiver. Not as many...

I disagree. I think they're deep enough in this... At least a cornerback and at wide receiver. Maybe not top shelf talent, but like enough Bs. Enough B level play. I hope like I... Look, to me, Josh cures a lot of evils. And that O-line cures a lot of evils as well.

I think the way you navigate this is can they solidify the run game? Because if they have a really solid run game that's not just Josh, That'll be fine because they can control the clock. They can put themselves in more manageable downs and distances, anticipate what passes are coming against them. But I would really feel better if Matt Milano were there. Agree. And he might be by December, so they just got to stay in the mix.

We'll see. The final group, we went to chalk. It's the teams that were in the final four. It's a power pole. It's the favorite. It's the lion's fourth. So that should make you feel better, Cynthia, that they're not higher. That's right.

Lions, 4th, Ravens 3rd, 49er, 2nd, Chiefs first. So basically how the last season would end it. That's fine. It's a power pole and there's really not huge reasons to go against any of these teams. The 49ers may be in the short term, but in the long term, it's kind of hard to argue with who they've been. I'm finding at least for this exercise, not a lot of juice here, not a lot of disagreement. We all had the Chiefs first. None of us had the 49ers anywhere lower than third.

The others were pretty consistent, too. We were basically in agreement on these teams. If there was a team here, I'm going to just go hard. Because I'd be surprised if any of these teams didn't make the playoffs, but if you had to choose one of these four teams that did not make the playoffs, I actually think I would choose the 49ers. We're lock solid. We talked about all the weird stuff that's going on in Santa Clara right now.

And the division and the schedule. I mean, think about it. First games against the Jets, that's like a hard first one if things aren't put back together. And like once that, like, it's hard to get things back together if you don't get the, you don't get the chemistry going. And, you know, I don't know. I also just trust quarterbacks more. And I think the quarterbacks on those other teams are just significantly more trustable.

I find it interesting how good the chiefs look on paper when the last couple of years on paper going into the year. There was actually more concerns about them. Yep. And, you know, won the Super Bowl, both of those years. This year, it feels like there's less, and I don't know. There's not really many things to pick apart with them, maybe the cornerback. Yeah, we do kind of hand wave away Legerius Sneed and his departure a little bit, but it's hard to overlook.

To me, it's more human nature. I got into it with Pete Sweeney and Arrowhead Pride that, to me, it's more just like human nature. And even that might not be, or just like the luck of the draw that like, hey, you just might not get through this single. elimination tournament unscathed again just because it's hard to do that's that's kind of the way i feel like it when i close my eyes and think of the difference between the afc and the nfc it's like the nfc those teams should make the playoffs and they're probably kind of going to fall the way we see them after week four but in the a fc we see you makes it and it's like a single elimination tournament could roll the dice either way that's where it gets more difficult they also are uh you know the most likely

team to have the one seed just because the schedule is not that tough in the division But even so, I still think that two games, they would have to play really tough people. It's not like, no, it doesn't, like the AFC to me, like, do you want to play CJ Stroud? Do you want to play the Bengals? Do you want to play the Ravens? I'm like, the answer is kind of no, like for all of that. So we're not exactly putting in all of our predictions out here. We will have an AFC, NFC preview.

We'll also have a game day view season preview where we get into the numbers of it all and try to pick who's making the Super Bowl there too. And have fun. I have a request. Yes. Can your kids pick their Super Bowl favorites, too? They need to be in the mix for that. I'll ask. I will ask.

I feel like, and then in a few years we'll get yours too. Ellis will pick the Rams. She's not really into the other 31 teams. Who cares? And I think the Walker will pick the Texans, which would be a fun. But I think Walker is like, he's really on it.

He's on it now. He's on. You would be careful. He might be coming for your job. Walker might be coming for your job. Bring it. That's cool with that. It's hard, you know, this is a daily show.

We need. Yeah. Well, if it's going to be every day forever, Walker better be training for this. That's right. Every day forever includes Wednesday, at least Wednesday morning, where we'll be recapping all the cuts around cut down down. Actually, tweet at me, let me know, we've been putting up the podcast at the exact same time every day.

Let me know on Twitter if for Cutdown Day you want to get it out there sooner. My instinct is actually, okay, it's all the cuts and I know it's not going to be like crazy. huge news, but this is a day as someone who's into just like how teams are formed. I'm really into, so I'm thinking about just putting that one out when it's ready. So let me know if that, if you want that, if you don't, we should... Tweet it, Greg.

For the older... Or if you want to hold it for overnight. Thank you, Eric. Let's play the music. For Patrick Claibon. Yeah, catch him. Cynthia on Fantasy Live. Like I said, Game Day of you will start a week from Friday. Week one.

We're here. On NFL Network, but it was a pleasure to have you guys. Until next time. I just love you guys. We too. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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