NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Cheers to 10 Years & News Rundown Friday

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler bring you all of the latest in the NFL including the latest with Ron Rivera announcing his fight with cancer (8:51), Gronk be...ing in the "best shape" of his life (12:50) and a trip to the throne of sleaze (17:10)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Mark Zessler, Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Yo! I'm excited. I am feeling the love. I'm feeling the love. Why are you yelling directly into the microphone? Yo!
Starting point is 00:01:45 Greg, I mean, this has already gone, you know, on Instagram somewhat viral. I don't know about viral, but it's been put on Instagram, and you seem to have learned no lesson. So I deleted the gram off my app, I don't have to watch myself do. stupid things. I'm going to do a stupid thing possibly during the show, too. There's a fridge repair guy who they got a cancellation. They're coming. Having a fridge broken during a heat wave is a problem. And I'm going to have to answer that phone. So I'm just warning you. Well, and Dan's just walked off set. So everything should be fine. Eric and I can handle it ourselves.
Starting point is 00:02:17 This is, this is life right now with pandemic. Okay, you got the pandemic still, still rolling. Dan, Dan didn't even mute his mic. He just left. He just left. The kids are starting school again, and now, like, it's like, it's like virtual learning too. This time we mean it. Like, you're going to lock your kids on the computer for five hours and the NFL season starting. Was that a door, Dan, or did you just hit your children? I did not beat my children. You were not muted.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yeah, no, I didn't, I don't need to mute it. I think our company and also all major companies that are acting as if, you know, this is okay. that working parents can somehow juggle full-time jobs with children that are in the house 24-7 that need now to be educated for hours and hours a day. Right. The center doesn't hold. You know, it's just... Something has to go, and it's going to be either the podcast or the children.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think it's a children. Yeah, it might be the children. I think it's the children. The federal government has told a lot of people they don't really care about them. You know, for much of our country's history, but a little extra during this pandemic. And children are on the list. Old people. Don't forget about who else can go, Mark.
Starting point is 00:03:34 You know who else can go? Who's that? You and I and Mark and Greg, we could all go. We could just die. We could die from this. From the crushing stress of trying to put like 82 puzzle pieces together that don't fit. Yes. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Anyway, we're still lucky. We're very lucky. Female assassin is starting to feel like a pretty good option. Here's the thing, though. The football adds a level of like, okay, it's going to be tricky, but in the end, if it feels good, not just because we like football, but I, it is nice even though we're going to be juggling it to like have, to have like real things to talk about and real work versus like trying to make up stuff during the summer.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I believe that. It's a good distraction. At the end of the day, yeah, at the end of the day, you know, we have awesome jobs. And, you know, boys, I am not, you know, I'm not one to self-meansans. mythologize. You know, I'm not, I'm not one of those people. But,
Starting point is 00:04:31 I want to share an advert. To do what? Yeah. I feel like you're exactly one of those people. No? No, no. I would never do that. But I want to share an anniversary today.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Ten years ago today, the old Zusser left the cold town behind to start a new life in California. I got on an 8.55 PM flight, American Airlines, JFK to LAX hit hit the reset button
Starting point is 00:04:59 on everything and here he is right here look at that boy oh look at that a little bit less salt in the in the hair situation there yes
Starting point is 00:05:10 you can see the difference a lot has happened in those 10 years marriage children everything we've done here at the NFL So despite everything, I do feel grateful today. Mark, I am still not very happy about the fact that in these 10 years that we've worked together, that you had football Sundays off for the first two years of it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But otherwise, other than that, it's been a great run with you as well. I do. I do. You know, we, and our friendship was just sort of in its early stages then. And you were, the Browns and Jets were, you know, trying to figure themselves. out, but I would text you from the Browns bar that I'd go to on Sundays, and you would be rolling into work about that time into what is essentially like eight bees nest put together, and I'm like, you know, floating home to have a nice Sunday and watch the late game by myself, and
Starting point is 00:06:09 that put our friendship on, on rocky territory, I think, early on. But, Dan, I don't know if we even, I mean, I want to go that far, but. Well, I don't know if we'd even be sitting here. If I had, you know, on your second day of work, if I hadn't taught you the content management system, CMS, what where would you be? I mean, I think that, you know, set the table for you. Your work, your training work on the content management system, as someone who had, you know, 14 days of additional experience, that is something I will never forget. Well, that's appropriate.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And then Greg came and then Wes showed up and, you know, we were just a podcast. It made it very, very big. Anyway, 10 years ago today. How about that? All right. Let's get into today's new show. Not even like a congratulations from Greg or like. Oh, congrats.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Well, I was. Notice he can't do that, the basic things. I know. My congrats was holding off on making more self-mythologizing joke. I can't say that word. I guess it's a tough. Oh, you can't? Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Good. You're a good guy, Greg. It reminded me a little bit. It reminded me a little bit. It's like whenever, like someone on Twitter, like an actor on Twitter will be like 12 years ago today, first day on the set on Ghostbusters 4. And it's just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:37 What is going on with you? I don't know. All right. Let's do some news. It's a rundown Friday. Let's hit it. I get ready for my big FBI moment. They're all dead, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Good. Michael Murtaugh. The FBI. And speaking of, you know, 10 years working together, Mark, and what a long, crazy ride. It's been, to me, still the greatest individual scene that represents male friendship in the history of film. is Pitt DeCaprio at Rick Dalton's home watching FBI together and just chilling on the couch. What a genius scene by Tarantino. I think that's sort of what the whole movie's about.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I mean, to me, that's sort of the heartbeat of the whole thing. And that was ripped from an actual FBI episode where DeCaprio is playing what was Bert Reynolds' character in real life. So, I mean, that's a total Tarantinoism. Got the poster right behind me. So here we go. There you go. Greg, any comments on that conversation between Dan and I? You know, I had a great male bonding moment watching that movie with our buddy Gonzo.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Of course, there's lots of, you know, got, you know. John Ronald Gonzalez, born March 12, 1977 as an American sports writer who's married to NFL media broadcaster, Colleen Wolf, John, who is a Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Colleen was there too and her friends. I guess it wasn't all males, but it just felt it is a good hang movie to watch. Yeah. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Nice, Greg. We're back on track. All right, let's get into the news, starting with some sobering news, actually. Washington football team coach Ron Rivera announced Thursday that he has been diagnosed with what he terms to be a very treatable and curable form of lymph node cancer. Rivera told the SPN's Adam Schaefter that he was stunned. He was angry. He feels like he's in the best health that he's been in, but he went to the doctor because he had a lump on his neck. and got the diagnosis. He's going to continue to coach.
Starting point is 00:09:54 That's his plan. It's full speed ahead, Rivera says. But now he has this on his plate, and we wish him the best. And obviously, cancer is something that's very close to this podcast, as Chris Wessling fights cancer for the second time in the past few years. So we understand how all-encompassing that becomes. Ron Rivera, Greg, is a guy that we've already talked about on this podcast, has more on his shoulders.
Starting point is 00:10:20 as a head coach than really any coach I ever remember since we've been doing this show and now he has the fight of cancer in his personal life. Yeah, I can't think of a coach taking a job and then having to deal with more quickly just from an organizational standpoint and then this personally is so separate and you hope the best for him.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's encouraging that the doctors told him, keep working, but he did say he's going to feel it, you know, he expects to feel it a little more, in three or four weeks. And so I'm sure that's something that the Washington football team is going to do everything they can to support him, and that if someone needs to step in and help him with some of his duties in that time, I'm sure at least they have a little bit of plan for it. Jack Del Rio is their defensive coordinator, who, of course, has been a head coach a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, I mean, I can't really think of a coach that has garnered more respect. to his days as a player and right into what he's done now and I think it's so heightened and clear to see in Washington taking on, as you said, just extra roles, stuff that head coaches in their first season typically wouldn't be asked to do. I can think when the Rams moved,
Starting point is 00:11:33 they essentially kept Jeff Fisher around an extra season or two because they wanted someone who had been there just to manage that transition. Rivera is doing this all after been there for a couple months and I do think head coaches probably have a tough time stepping down from their duties, and you hope that physically, if there is, if it becomes complicated, that there will be a way for him to get the rest he needs because, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:56 we've seen it personally what it can do. Well, you have to be worried about the coronavirus. I mean, there's that too. I mean, you have to be a little extra worried when you're, when you're at risk. The team has a, quote, plan B in place if Rivera does have to step away from his duties. And yes, there is also a teachable moment in their. for all of us Rivera detected that lump didn't ignore it
Starting point is 00:12:19 went to the doctor we should all follow that path if you ever see something that's at a place on the old bod. You know we talk about bods on the show and this is talking about the bod in a different way. It's still
Starting point is 00:12:34 important. I feel like I have a lot of lumps on my body right now and it's not they're not I don't know what a doctor would say about it but it's unpleasant to the eye. I know Adam Calabrese would say, she'd say, get back on that beach body workout.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Beach body. I could see you going to the doctor and explaining all the maladies on your body and then the doctor just being like, you're almost 50. I haven't been to a regular doctor sort of checkup type thing in a long time. All right. Follow Dan's advice, yeah. All right. How about what just happened with Ron Rivera?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Maybe make that the reason. Go to the doctor. Well, my doctor, again, is going to be female assassin. And it's, there's, it's prevalent and it's, you know, that doctor's appointments are now virtual, too. They're not letting you in or they're requesting don't show up right now, which makes sense. So it's a little strange. You're looking for more of a Kavorkian is what you're saying. Essentially.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Martin. Okay. You'll have to bring it in Norway. Like, if Mark suddenly leaves for Norway, we'll have to be a little worried. In other news, a certified trope alert down there in Tampa, Buccaneers, coach Bruce Ariens believes Troopanat Troopanat
Starting point is 00:13:49 Troopanat believes that Rob Grinkowski the version that they're seeing right now in Florida the version that Tom Brady successfully lured out of retirement after one year is the same guy
Starting point is 00:14:05 who is the greatest tight end of all time in New England years ago. The guy that has all these records and Super Bowls and all that years later at age 31 with a body like an operation game board and after a year out of the game, Arian says he's totally rejuvenated
Starting point is 00:14:24 and the guy that's on the team now is that all-time great. Mark, are you buying this or is this a certified trope alert? Well, first of all, I think the trope lady is not exactly like a 9 to 5 grinder. She probably does about two hours of work over the course of an entire year on this show, but she does a nice job with it, and she's very consistent. I'll start right there. Pleasant voice.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But I do, here's why I buy it. If you put Gronk, like on the Bears or, you know, the Chargers, I'd have questions. But he's paired with Brady, and he's basically talked about the fact that, you know, Guerrero and Brady have been working with him closely and he's changed his diet. And this stuff has worked for Tom Brady. And Tom Brady and Gronk, like, the fact that they're paired together, I buy the idea that his body is healthy. and they're going to produce right away because they're like peanut butter and jelly.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I mean, these two just know each other so well. Why buy it because you can see it in the little clips? I mean, it's funny you would think you can't get anything out of these running on air clips. But it's like, Rob Wancke couldn't move the last time he was on the field. And he couldn't move in some of those training camps either. Like it wasn't like he showed up and people were like, ooh, Gronk's back. It was like he never really recovered in the last couple years of his career from the cascade of those injuries. Now, that said, he hasn't played football yet.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I mean, there hasn't been real hitting, and probably the biggest decline I saw in Rob Grankowski in his last season was as a blocker, where he was no longer a difference maker in terms of his blocking. Although he was out there and he gives you flexibility, I think the back injury really came into play there. So you're going to have to watch him play a real 50 snaps in a game and do that a few times and see how he holds up then. I do buy, though, that he is moving better.
Starting point is 00:16:11 He has to be. I think he is, and he said it. He says, I think he, it makes sense. A year away from the game, and it sounds like he worked out harder with the WWE and with the Brady stuff than he probably was beforehand. He basically admitted he didn't work as hard as he could have working out beforehand. Dan's not buying it. No, I'm not buying it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Well, he is moving better right now. There's no doubt. Dan, part of you not want to buy it, even if you are. No, I have no problems with it. gronk. What is gronk doing well? How does that affect me negatively? I have no problem with it. But the fact of the matter is like, yeah, you could look great running around in shorts in August, but the body is going to, that body is going to be cranky again once he gets tackled a few times and meet some crushing blocking assignments. And it is the reason why we roll out trope alerts on
Starting point is 00:16:59 the show is because it's legit and it usually does hide the reality. And the reality is that this trope is coach, colon, aging veteran with history of low. lower body injuries actually as good as ever. That's not possible. That never happens. So we'll see. And if you guys want to put your sandwiches where your mouth is, I'd love to do some statistical. No, not in this one.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Because to me, it's not the lower. It's the back. It's the back in the neck. When you were a fan of the Patriots watching Grong, every time he got tackled from behind on his back, you just held your breath. And half the time he did get hurt. I mean, that is always how he got hurt. is someone kind of tackling him, jumping on his shoulders
Starting point is 00:17:40 because he's not going down, and that's it. And then he's not the same the rest of the season. Right, and I can see he, they have two other good tight ends there or ones that they could service, you could use a lot, and you can see his snaps being managed. I don't think Rock will be the- They're talking about the fact that he could have the third fewest snaps of the tight ends. Well, Peter King.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Peter King speculated that. I'm just saying, but he was at practice for weeks. Like if Howard is healthy, I think they'd be smart, to use gronk 70s as he should be yeah right the idea that you would phase out someone is talented as o j howard because old man gronk's back in town there's a way to make this work while you don't you know give up on oj harwood because he had a bad 2019 all right well meanwhile on the throne of sleeves gronk's old team jared stidham is having a rough camp he is right now battling injury it's discomfort in his leg is how it was explained by rap sheet he's also been throwing the ball all
Starting point is 00:18:38 of the plays in practice, including guys on the other side of the field on defense. So Stidham struggling with turnovers in practice and now battling a leg injury. All good news if you're a Cam Newton fan, Mark. Yeah, I just, I get that there's been this talk about, you know, who's going to start and could they start multiple quarterbacks. To me, it's a stunning upset if Cam Newton, even if you remove the interceptions isn't your week one starter and continues on. that way. That's just where I'm sitting.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I don't like that. There are things that I just don't need to pay that deep attention to in training camp with no preseason games, and it's stuff like this. I mean, now, I mean, Stidom to me is a project, and so far the project is not going very well. Right. I think it's not surprising
Starting point is 00:19:25 after, you know, not having OTAs, they come out there and they're going up against the best secondary in the league that, you know, you can pick the, you can guess which offenses are all getting the reviews in camp. The Jets are another one where it's like the offensive talent doesn't match up with the experience and the talent of the defense. And there's a few others around the league like
Starting point is 00:19:47 that. It doesn't surprise me that Stidham Hoyer and Cam, you know, hasn't looked that great. Stidham supposedly has been throwing the nicest ball, but he's been throwing it to the other team, you know, seven times. McDaniels, Josh McDaniels said Stidham's practicing next time they're in full pad. So I'm not really that can, the injury doesn't really matter that much as much as he would have to play so well in camp and show that he was so far ahead of cam to play him ahead of cam, and he's not. He's a second year, fourth round pick right now.
Starting point is 00:20:14 ESPN's Mike Reese believes that none of the Patriots quarterbacks have, quote, flashed in summer practice so far. Yeah, I don't put anything into that. Like, yeah, do I think my jets are going to the Super Bowl this year? No, but am I freaking out because the offense, I mean, all offenses are going through it right now.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It's just that's part of the machine here. Right. There's just too, there's so much more to to learn and grasp and variables on offense than there isn't for most defenses. I want to know how Cam's throwing the ball. I want to know how Cam's throwing the ball. The fact that Rees said, and I've seen it twice, that if you just look at who's made the best throws,
Starting point is 00:20:48 who's got the best arm, you know, has had the best plays in the passing game. It's been Stid him. That makes me wonder, how is Cam throwing the ball? How does his arm look? Because that is the bigger concern to me, not the toe and the foot injury that he had last year. We still haven't really seen him rip it
Starting point is 00:21:04 for a long time since that shoulder surgery. And that's what I am most concerned about, at least as a pastime. I guess I'm confused in, for people that study the game and know, like to say that Jared Stidham is throwing the ball well when he has like seven interceptions and four practices. I think they're saying it with more like he could throw a spiral. Like, okay, I can throw a spiral. I think the point is, you know, yet he's been making the biggest mistakes. but if you picked out who's had the best past plays in camp,
Starting point is 00:21:35 they've almost been all stid him, too. So it's like a terrible version of James Winston. It's ugly there. He's like, he's a bad James. It's also, as you mentioned, I don't know what to put into these practices. I also don't think it's a bad thing not to have preseason. But I'm feeling this now. It's like, is it that big a deal?
Starting point is 00:21:54 I think it's fine. Well, to the guys at the bottom of the roster, it's a big deal. Absolutely. All right. other news. The Melvin Ingram standoff in Los Angeles feels like it's coming to a close. We'll see. But Ingram signed an adjusted contract yesterday, according to Mike Garifolo of NFL network, with the team that guarantees this year's salary, according to sources. And according to Mike, this was a driving force in Ingram's return to practice.
Starting point is 00:22:24 And he added that we'll see what it means regarding his push for a contract extension. We talked about this on Wednesday's show. He's 31 coming off, not a game-breaking type season. Joey Bosa just got the biggest defensive contract ever. So I think his future in Los Angeles, very murky. But this feels like, Greg, a move that they made that gets him back on the field and back to business in 2020. Yeah, there's a little love for a guy who's done a lot of great work for them. It's ultimately not promising much other than you're going to make the team, which you would have.
Starting point is 00:22:56 that if coronavirus cancels games will still pay you. So that's a little extra. I do think it's directly related to Bosa. You know, your buddy gets all this money and then you want a little. It happened with us. When Mark got that monster guaranteed contract guaranteeing him 40 million
Starting point is 00:23:12 over the next four years, we all were like hello. It was awkward. Well, it caused a rift, but I mean, I think they went in the right direction with the initial salary bump heading towards me. That didn't make Wes very happy. He's always been squawking about the money. But you're right. I also
Starting point is 00:23:27 it's pretty clear to me on the Melvin front that they don't they don't really want to give him an extension. I mean, right? I mean, I think they want to see how the season goes at best. You know what was the best part though, Mark? When you took that massive extension and you gave every dime
Starting point is 00:23:44 to the Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood, like that showed me you were a man of character. Yeah, I don't know why it would surprise you that I would do that. It sort of just seems to be right in the sort of the character that I would, that's how I use my money, just give it all away to other people, not my own children, but other children in a boys and girls club
Starting point is 00:24:01 in NoHo, as they call it. Right. Your children are using old shoeboxes as shoes, but those kids in NoHo, they're flying. They won't even let my children into that Boys and Girls Club, which I found to be uncivilized. Like, let, you know, we've given all this money. They named it after you.
Starting point is 00:24:18 It's Mark Sessler Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood, and Luke and Colin got turned away at the door. Yeah, it's not right. We're working on that. All right. In other news, KJ. Hamler, the rookie wide receiver is out a couple weeks for the Broncos. Not good with a hamstring injury. And of course, the way the season is barreling towards us now, less than three weeks, a hamstring injury really puts his week one availability in doubt. And like you mentioned the Jets and Denzel Mims, their wide receiver they're very high on who also pulled a hamstring. When you take a rookie off the field and this offseason especially during this portion of the season, it's going to be a very tough you would think for Hamler to find a role early on in 2020. And he was a big part of the reason people were so excited about the speed of this Broncos offense. They still have pretty good depth, but that's taken away one piece.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And you said it just this year more than any. I mean, hamstring injuries in camp have crushed rookie receivers, I feel like, every year. and it just feels like it's going to be doubly true this year. And we're getting so little news. I think that's part of the reason why it's not a fiery rundown right now. There's no preseason. That's part of it. But I think it's because there's no access.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I think there's stuff happening out there that you don't know about because people aren't in the building. You're only getting these Zoom. So you only know what the coaches tell you. And for them to tell you he's out in a couple weeks, that means it's quite serious. Yeah, it's like the position I'd least want to see a player tagged with a hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Because that wide receiver, it becomes like February March, and that wide receiver that had that early season hamstring, Paul tells you, oh, it affected my entire year. And we saw it with O'Dell Beckham, he came back and was fine. But, I mean, these things can linger. And I think you're, Greg, your point that we don't really need the preseason from our angle, not the young players, coaches would love for this access to never grow anything beyond where it is right now.
Starting point is 00:26:17 They're loving this. So I think this is their dreamland, you know? And how can they go back? back to, that'll be interesting to see how they go back in the media front. And then how do they go back to three preseason games? I really, I really, I guess they can't renegotiate that. I feel like going back to two feels like that's, that's perfect. Going back to three seems crazy next year.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Odell Beckham is the best case scenario for this type of thing. I mean, we've been doing this long enough. I remember his rookie season, he yanks his hamstring at Giants Camp because the guy's always hurt. And he is out the entire first month of the season. And then he gets back and he's so incredibly talented, he still lit the league on fire. But unless you're at that kind of level of a talent, it's very difficult to find your role. What are you smirking for, Mark? No, I remember, like, people being really down on Beckham before they saw him play because of that injury.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Why isn't this guy in the field? I mean, the guy's always hurt. And I have to watch all these social media clips this week. Oh, look at Odell. He just leapfrogged over his own linebackers. Like, how about why Mark's smirking? It's like while O'Dell is walking on water this August, let's just hope he doesn't pull a hammy doing that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's just like I want to see this guy play 16 games. You and O'Dell Beckham have never felt like a road trip pairing that would work out very well. There just seems to be some heat between you guys. But Beckham also played wire to wire through injury all last season. I mean, do we give them any credit for that? Where does that play into your equation? You get more credit if you play.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I don't know about O'Dell, unfortunately. Yeah, a thousand-yard season while injured, okay. All right, a lot of drops. Here's the thing. It was a lot of good yards again in here. Here's the thing with the O'Dell Beckham injury is very confusing to me, because when you watched, especially at the end of the season, I wouldn't watch his last five Baker games. Odell was open all the time, and he had a ton of drops, and he didn't have a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:14 He was bad on contested catches. So the whole part of him being injured was confusing because the biggest problem he had, I thought, was like he wasn't on the same page and he couldn't come down with passes in the past that he did. Maybe that is the hamstring, but it wasn't like he didn't have opportunities. But that's 2019.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Let's move on from that. That's in the past. Speaking... Oh, wait, hold on. It's the fridge repair guy. It's a perfect repair guy. So I'll be back in like a minute. Speaking of...
Starting point is 00:28:40 Bye-bye, Greg. You know, the top of the show, Mark, when Greg, you know, you just... You want to have that moment where we're all sharing it. It's like 10 years ago, I moved here, and we've been on this roller coaster ride together for the past eight years, and you just want him to be involved with the conversation, but it just didn't seem like we could get him to engage there.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He seemed a little reticent. I'd like to dig deeper into why that was. I think the findings might be unpleasant to you, and maybe to me also, and potentially to Erica. So maybe we don't dig deeper into that. Ricky, what do you think? What do you make of that? I think it was clear as day, unfortunately, you guys. Yeah, like Mark said, I don't think you should dig deeper into it because it doesn't go very deep. He just doesn't like you guys. Yeah, it seems rather evident. Like there's no warm feelings about the last seven or eight years.
Starting point is 00:29:42 He doesn't care if you've been there for 10 years. Right, we're back. We're back. Anyway, Martin Keyes. I think two has the best ball. I think two is, too seems he'll be. fun. Oh, two or two.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah. All right. In other first round, Greg is back. In other first round news involving wide receivers, Marquis, Hollywood Brown is poised for a big second year with the Ravens. And he's, you know, made some headlines. Greg, you mentioned it on a podcast earlier this summer. He gained 23 pounds.
Starting point is 00:30:16 He bolted up 23 pounds. in the NFL off season. That's almost like the entire weight of my three-year-old child. And you would think that this would be, first of all, you worry about his hamstrings and every other part of his body. But also, if you were curious, Mark, I know you're very plugged in on diet and what you put into your body. And actually, just starting this week,
Starting point is 00:30:42 starting this week, my own training camp, I've really been cleaning it up. And I'm trying to keep the calorie intake below 2,000, which is, you know, when you start, like, trying to track these things, realize how easily you give away calories. But that's my situation, a guy that's trying to drop weight. Mark, he's around is trying to gain weight. And he was on a 4,000 calorie diet this offseason.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And here is the diet. You ready? Mark, take note if you want to bulk up. I will. Breakfast. And by the way, I know this is a trope in its own right that these stories pop up, but I always like just seeing what these guys are eating. Breakfast, 7.30 a.m., four boiled eggs and oatmeal.
Starting point is 00:31:16 snack 9.30 a.m., protein shake and two tablespoons of peanut butter. Lunch, noon, a protein, either steak, chicken, or lamb with rice, potatoes, and greens. Snack, 2 p.m. goddamn snack in the honor of Rex Ryan. Protein shake, 10 ounces of almond milk, one banana and two tablespoons of peanut butter. Dinner, 5 p.m. early dinner. Another protein. Again, steak, chicken, or salmon with rice, potatoes, and greens. And then 7.30 p.m. finally, one more snack. another protein shake, 10 ounces of almond milk, yogurt, and two tablespoons of peanut butter. And that's how you get.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And then you work out like a maniac, and you're like an almost hilariously gifted physical specimen. You can gain 23 pounds of muscle that way. That's just a bodybuilder's regiment. I mean, so there's got to be periods of lifting in between all that. I don't know. I think that it probably would, if I tried that diet, it would do an absolute job on the intestinal tract.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I don't know how that would work out. But that's how you put those pounds on. That's how you do it. Eight boiled eggs at 5 a.m. No, thank you. I think I could give it a go. Maybe I'd have to downsize it a little bit here and there. But by the time you got to the 930 or the third protein shake
Starting point is 00:32:34 with the extra two tablespoons of peanut butter and almond milk, and that's the third time today, and you just ate like your second stick. And you'd just be like stuffing it down and that peanut butter would in on milk would be like oozy out of your like blah Greg you sound like a perfect person
Starting point is 00:32:53 to sponsor this type of plan You know we've never had We've never had a meme on this show yet Something that really broke through Greg you spoon feeding the peanut butter into your mouth I think that could do it That's two shows in a row where you've created a bit of a meme Greg with you know
Starting point is 00:33:09 You're a meme generator lately Well I feel you know we talked about it I think it was earlier this year when you want social media advice you just come to me you know that's true triple g uh and finally in the news bad times
Starting point is 00:33:26 for thom brendaman i think he goes by tom but i mean t h o m and you want me to call you tom at a certain point you need to make the choice you're right that's not what we're focusing on here reds broadcaster and west has been listening to this guy and watching this guy for decades as a Cincinnati Reds baseball fan.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But Tom Brennaman suspended from working Cincinnati's games after using an anti-gay slur on the air on Wednesday night, prompting the team to apologize for what they called a horrific homophobic remark, which it was. And promptly, Fox about 12 hours later, announced they were pulling Tom off the air on NFL Sundays and, you know, once this story is out there, and it's one of the all-time broadcasting gaffs that I remember to do that live on the air and say what he said. But when they were giving his background, I was stunned to see that Brennam and Fox stole the NFC coverage from CBS in 1994. And it was a landmark thing, Fox getting into the broadcasting
Starting point is 00:34:39 game. And Tom Brennaman was on. the first group of teams in 94. And he's been there the entire time since. So you guys can do the math there. I mean, the guy has been a staple there. So with Brennaman out for this season and likely beyond that, I thought this would just be a good time
Starting point is 00:34:59 to take a look at where we're at with the Fox teams. Real quick, I'm going to go through the Fox teams. And if you don't follow this as closely as we do, because we kind of are way into this because we're just these teams, Mark, right they're just so they become a part of our life for four months especially if you're for your job you're trying to watch all the games you can't get away from these guys they better be pleasant yeah to your point for more than four months for 10 years in some cases 15 years i mean i you can
Starting point is 00:35:27 hear their voices in your head if i say pat summerall uh you can hear his voice if you think about it in your mind right now i mean that that's good that's that's good and that's the good teams there are a couple teams and you can get into it i mean there are certain teams that um lessen my enjoyment of some games. You know, they're not all created equal. Tom was one of those for a while. I mean, at some point last year, I almost got to the point that I thought they were so bad, they're good, but he's such a blowhard.
Starting point is 00:35:53 He's so opinionated and knows so little that it almost cracks me up. And he's with Chris Spielman, who I like, and it's kind of fun, but the two of the off each other were insane. So good ridden. Wow, Greg takes the, takes the gloves off on. I mean, we talked about it. We talked about him on this show before this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So here are the team, just for posterity. The A team is Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, since 2006. That's been the team with Aaron Andrews as the sideline reporter. The B team, which I believe to be solid as well, Kevin Burkart, Darrell Johnston, and Pam Oliver. Because Charles Davis left for CBS. Burckhardt underrated. I like Burckhardt a lot. Burckhardt's great, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:37 The third team, this is interesting. Kenny Albert, who's solid. Jonathan Vilma, is that new? Yep. Yeah. Who was Albert working with last year? Does anybody recall? I think Ronde Barber.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I always thought Kenny Albert was Marv Albert's younger brother, and I learned more recently than I should have that it's his son. Oh, is that true? Yeah, I always thought it was a younger brother, because Kenny Albert has been around for a billion years, and it's his son. Anyway, that is stunning to me. I always thought it was his brother. I mean, Marv is like, you know, he's been...
Starting point is 00:37:12 A hundred. He's still in top form, or at least close to it, considering. But yeah, I think he's approaching his 80s or maybe, you know. He is late 70s, if I'm not mistaken, yeah. So Albert and Vilma will be interesting to hear how Vilma does this season. I thought Villal was really good on ESPN as a, you know, studio guy, but I haven't heard him on a game. Hmm. As they'll have rotating sideline reporters.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And sideline reporters, is that going to be a thing? season probably no no they actually announced that they that NFL network reporters i mean all sideline reporters are barred from uh barred from the field during games for the entire 2020 season all right so thom was with spielman as we said and shannon spake was the sideline reporter so shannon i guess is not involved or will have a different role thumb out of the mix so they got a plug they could potentially mix in with one of their other teams they have chris Myers and a booth mate to be named later. Wasn't Myers with Barbara?
Starting point is 00:38:14 I always tried to mute that channel. Yeah, that's not my favorite. And then the final team is Dick Stockton, Mark Schlarith, and Jennifer Hale. So we'll see what Fox does. They have a notable hole to fill out the play-by-play spot for their D team. I mean, Dick Stockton has been doing games since about 1926. You know, our guy Peter Schrager loses that sideline work that he's excellent at. I wonder what they'll probably come up with some other workaround.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Like kind of in the NBA, maybe they'll do it in the, you know, in the walkways, like under the stadium. I don't know. They'll probably come up with something. But like, listening to that group, you know, no offense to Dick Stockton and Tham and Chris Myers. Well, I guess some offense. Let's get some new blood in. I mean, I know it's a difficult job. but some of these guys, football is not their main sport.
Starting point is 00:39:09 There's a sense of punch in the clock. Like, we can find the next generation of people. Let's do it. Yeah, it does feel like they've been around forever. I'm with you. It might be the old Damashchak thing, which maybe it's changing now, but Damashik was always mystified that we couldn't find 32 people on the planet who could play quarterback on a high level.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I think it's maybe a tougher job. It's an incredibly tough job. I mean, we're giving it respect saying it's a tough job. job. But I think it's even tougher than that. The guys that can do it, you know, call out immediately who the player is, have an understanding of the game and a knowledge of the teams to be able to talk for three to four hours. I have a lot of respect for people that do it well. Honestly, because I think Greg, we've talked about this 100 times, that Greg is good at, you know, this is happening, this flag was thrown or, you know, uh-oh, Sean Payton just let eight seconds
Starting point is 00:39:58 go off the clock in the middle of the third quarter, Greg's having a hissy fit over it. I don't know why at all. Like, I just watch the games and I'm sort of like, I bathe in the overall environment of the game and there are nuggets, things I see. But I need to kind of sometimes stop, pause, and see what's – I'm just not great at, like, instant analysis. If someone put me on play-by-play, that broadcast would be an absolute disaster to the person. So you're saying Fox, Fox should not reach out to Mr. Sessler. I'm not the new blood that they should be seeking at all. Sideline reporter, also a tougher job than people realize.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You've got to track down PR people to get injuries. I mean, these jobs are, they look easy and they're not easy. All right. Well put, Mark, that's what's happening in the news. Greg is thinking he could do play-by-play. That's why he did not. No, I'm terrible. I did do color on college television at Tulane for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I could never do play-by-play. Throw me and do the color. That'd be fun. I did that a little bit in college, too, and that's a skill set. I would never, it would be terrible. Yeah, it's. Well, it looks like, according to Wikipedia, Chris Myers needs somebody to do color with them this year well there you go I mean just get there's an option just get like the
Starting point is 00:41:11 quarterback's names right come on let's get Mike Berkowitz on the phone if we can get you on the on the on the E team for Fox this year like that got to start somewhere all right what's up burko if you're listening all right that is it hey again reminder the show on television is tomorrow Saturday, NFL Network, the around the NFL broadcast, which is a detailed rundown of everything happened. There it is. In the week that was, and we have, we're having a lot of fun doing that. We tape it actually right after today's broadcast.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So if you want to watch it on Fridays digitally, it's on NFL.com at 3 p.m. Pacific, 6 p.m. Eastern, I believe. So check out the Around the NFL broadcast. And I also, one more note. I saw and I tweeted that we are apparently by this metric on Apple podcast. We were the 15th, number 15
Starting point is 00:42:11 podcast. I believe in the UK this past week. Overall, not just sports. That's awesome. Thank you to everybody. Just a call to not just the UK listeners, but the American listeners too. Please go to Apple and rate us five stars
Starting point is 00:42:28 and leave a positive review. But even if you don't want to leave a review, if you could just juice us with some star ratings, that would be very nice. We don't ask for much. We don't charge you a dime for the show. If you could do that for us, consider it even. I'd say start,
Starting point is 00:42:43 if you know people that don't like sports or don't like football, have them listen to regularly because that's the new territory, the new crowd that we're looking for to get higher than 15th in the UK. That's an insult to us. We should be third or fourth at the lowest.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, I tweeted it. 15th place is. 14th loser. How about a little present for Dan's 10-year anniversary, you know, at the NFL network. Just leave five stars. That's why I didn't say congrats earlier. I'm going to leave five stars and leave a great review for Dan.
Starting point is 00:43:14 There you go. I knew it. I knew it, Greg. All right. And we'll read it because I'm going to check it every day, Greg, until I see the review. I'll do it right now. All right. Thank you, everybody for listening.
Starting point is 00:43:28 We'll be back Monday. I'm hoping West is going to be with us for the moment. Monday show and coming up next Wednesday, of course, the fantasy extravaganza. So everything is starting to heat up now. It's getting wild. Let's get out of here. This is Dan Hansen signing off for Quiet Storm, the old boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the glass. Ten years gone, man.
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