NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Christmas Games Preview and Coach of the Year Rankings

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

Gregg Rosenthal and Ollie Connolly give you their top-five Coach of the Year Candidates heading into the final two weeks of the regular season (02:00). Gregg and Ollie also react to DK Metcalf being suspended for his altercation with a fan (29:26) and preview the Christmas Day games, starting with Cowboys at Commanders (33:25) followed by Lions at Vikings (38:20) and Broncos at Chiefs (47:00). Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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day games over and over on the chalkboard. We really aren't going to make fun of them. We're going to tell you why you can have some fun with these games. And by we, I mean myself, coming to you from the Chris Wesleying podcast studio with my friend Ali Connelly, not on a weekend this week because of the holiday. We got Ali on a Tuesday to talk some coach of the year rankings. Are you ready, Ali, to separate your favorite men in the entire NFL? I know you're a coaching guy.

I am, and it's very, very difficult. Is this the widest open race since you've covered the spool? Because I can't remember you where it goes like eight, nine deep. Yeah, I think it absolutely is. I think I actually didn't have that hard of a time cutting off five. But once you got to five, and we're going to count down from five to one, you can make such a strong case for any one of those five. It's just a beauty pageant where it's, it's very, very subjective.

So I would have no problem with anyone voting for any of these five men. And we do have two more weeks to go. So we're basing on the information that we have here. We will also hit some news. We have the D.K. Metcalf suspension. And we will touch on the Christmas games and talk about kind of what we are looking for in those games after the break. But yeah, let's start with the coach of the year, Ollie. It really is wide open.

And the last couple weeks could matter because we have a couple guys who have a chance to win this award that are going up against each other the last couple of weeks. So putting that out of the way, I asked you to go 5 to 1. Before we get into it, you said you could go 8, 10 deep. Who are the honorable mention guys that you could not even get into your top 5? You just want to give a little shout out to. Yeah, I couldn't get Shane Stuyken in there. I think over the first half the season, that's as good a job as anyone could have done,

but I don't think you can do that based on what's happened down the stretch. I didn't have Sean Payton in my top 5. and that one really hurt. Because I think Sean Payton would be a worthy winner. And so to me, it's that the top six and Peyton would be my first one out where it's difficult to split between the top six.

Okay. Yeah, it's tricky because Sean Payton comes into the year and he says, we're a Super Bowl potential team. And so the expectations are raised. But you've got to think of like where he is with the second year quarterback, the second year in his program. And I did give a little extra credit to coaches

who it's not necessarily all just about this year. the principles that they've set up and the culture they've established are bearing fruit now. I give a little extra credit and Peyton should get some there. I will mention, like, look, Damico Ryan's came to Houston to build the exact defense that he's built and it's happening. And so they're 10 and 5, but he couldn't make it for me. Dave Canales has his team in first place. Nobody expected that. It's such a big group this year that I defaulted to who are the best teams and the Panthers are not one of the best teams, but he should get a little bit of mention.

And then Sean McVeigh, he's kind of in the Andy Reid mold here where in Bill Belichick back in the day that you could put Sean McVeigh on the list any year and I wouldn't have a problem with it. And yet he was number five, number six or seven for me along with Sean Payton. So I'm assuming Sean McVeigh is not on your top five, but maybe maybe he is. And McVeys not. McVe is my frustration with the award in general, which is that we give credit to people we thought wouldn't be good going into the season. And we say we're so sorry. here is an award whereas Sean McVeigh

is just everything you expect which is he is the best head coach in the NFL proves a year and year round and yeah he gets put it in Michael Jordan LeBron category where it's like we're bored of you winning every time so we'll give it to someone else okay but you can be the change you know you could be the change

you want to see in the world I always say that on this show like don't worry about what people did in the past you could be a tastemaker now Ollie I mean you obviously are on the read optional you have a lot of people in the league reading your stuff on your substack and listening but now we're bringing you to the people. Maybe some AP voters are out there listening. You could be the

change. You could put McVeigh one and make the case. Last year, I had Andy Reid first. And I stand by that. That he would have been a better choice. I would be happy with Andy Reid last year. All right. Let's get into our top five, though. Well, what do you want to say about McVeigh then? You sounded like I'm not so sure that Chris Ballard needs to read the read option to know Sean McVe is a football coach. That's fair. Okay. What we're going to do so that we really raised the drama. This is, you know, big time pre-holiday podcasting here, uh, is that we're going to go five to one. But we, we won't say where, you know, our other guy is if we have them higher than the other. And Ali, I'll, I'll have you start out with your number five.

My number five is Ben Johnson with the Bears. Um, this falls nicely into the turnaround category, though. I don't think quite as stark a turnaround as maybe guys who could be higher up on the list. Um, I think if you just look at some of the defensive fragility and some of maybe the look involved on that side of the ball. It's a slight demerit for me compared to some other guys in the list. But I do think you have to say that everything he visioned and bet on with this franchise, whether it was the partnership with Caleb Williams, whether it's rebuilding the offensive line,

whether it's building out a staff really smartly saying, I'm going to go get Dennis Allen, someone with head coaching experience kind of guide me through the work week, someone who I can just trust on one side of the balls. I kind of deal with one side and start resetting the culture there in Chicago. Everything he kind of dreamed up going into the season, it has worked out. And Caleb Williams has developed. Now, he hasn't turned like Drake May in his second year to a guy that's in the MVP mix,

much just, you know, not even the Pro Bowl mix. It's not when they announced the Pro Bowl on Tuesday. No one is saying Caleb Williams was a snub, but he gets credit for the improvement, certainly that Caleb Williams have. Yeah, I think the questions for Ben Johnson coming into the year was a little bit about culture and is he a leader of men and all that stuff. And in the off season, I think he helped to put that to bed. he does remind me a little bit of Sean McVeigh in that it's going to be a coach-led

organization. I think Ryan Poles, who was there, maybe it's a comparison to the less need relationship, is going to be kind of serving Ben Johnson and what he sees. And the fact that they made their offensive line work, especially when you talk about vision, I think is really impressive for what Ben Johnson has done. No, I agree. And I think with Johnson, he was kind of miscast and misguided from the outside. He's like, oh, he's the dork. He's the nerd. He's the exes and O's guy. And then now that you see him in front of the cameras and doing this celebration, this man is a stone called psychopath. He is in that Dan Campbell vision of rah-rah nonsense. He just also happens as a little genius then to him too, which I think

is where you get to more McVeigh than someone like Shannon, where Shannon's a little bit more dower and those are his kind of soft skills. Whereas Johnson is a little bit more in the flow of McVe, Dan Campbell and can tap him to the rah-rah side too. And he just has an edge to him. And I'll always remember, you know, Belichick, you know, in his book with Halvers him, said, you know, once I learned as a young assistant, once I could just help a player, you know, be better or do something they couldn't do before. Like, they will respect me for that. That's the number one thing you can do.

And I think that's ultimately the number one thing Ben Johnson has. It's crazy that, you know, he could be fifth on a list. And it's crazy for me, as a Patriots fan, that I'm putting Vrable fifth on my list. I got a text from our good friend, Jordan, who was really missing being on this show because she loves talking coaches. But we could wrap it up with the coach of the year rankings at the end of the year, too, because, you know, we never know in terms of at least finalizing it.

But I put Rable 5th, and I know, you know, you don't have them this low, so we'll find out where you have them. I don't want to turn this into, like, picking the reasons I didn't have him higher. It's just an incredible year. They won eight games combined the previous two years. That is the case for him.

He is as important, you know, a coach as there is in a building. feels like a shadow general manager. Maybe you give him a little love for that. Maybe you give him a little love for bringing the best out of Josh McDaniels. Jordan pointed that out. Although, there was some reporting around the fact that Robert Kraft was really insisting on that coaching hire. You can get into that maybe when you talk Vrable.

I'm going to be real. I'm going to give him a little bit of knock for two things, at least when I'm separating everything out. In some years, he would win the award. The knock would be number one. He's won it before, which maybe that's not fair. but I look at these other great coaches, some of who've been atop the league plenty of times

and they haven't won it before, it's such a beauty pageant, silly type of award. I do think spreading it out is okay. And the schedule matters to me. Like, it's unfortunate, but I think if they had a tougher schedule and by basically every metric, they are the easiest schedule in the league,

one of the easiest schedules we've seen in years, that they would have like a 10-and-5 record, that there may be more like that type of team or even a 9-and-6 type of team, which is no major knock, but I'm looking at it. And if I'm going to make a tiebreaker, who has the best team, who I think, it's obviously subjective. The record would tell you the Patriots are one of them.

That's just a little bit of a separator for me. But my God, he has done an amazing job. His soft skills, as you would say, with Drake May is incredible. And really with the entire team, he has them fired up and playing well without a very good roster when you compare it to the other candidates here. So I just want to clarify that one of your knocks there was that he's too good at his job and he's won it before

he can't win it again. Okay, good, good. This is, he can win it again but as a little tiebreak, it's like Stefanski won it twice, like Ron Rivera won it twice. We've had some guys just like keep winning it over and over. And when I look at some of the other guys here, I'll mention Ben Johnson's my

fourth, so we kind of talked Ben Johnson, but this was five and four to me. And when you see, you know, the top three teams. I think we're going to have the same five guys. I do think those teams are just like a smidge better. But Ben Johnson, I'll mention, has a chance these last couple weeks to have a really strong closing statement to beat the Packers. And then if he can potentially beat the 49ers this week, that would be an incredible stretch run. And I had my doubts that the

offensive line when they did all the investments and they sort of had that vision would all work out. and then you look at it and they've made it happen. Do you have any problems with my Vrabel ranking? Clearly you do because you got an buyer. I have some problems. I have more problems with the logic, I think, than the actual ranking. I think you can throw any of these guys up in the end. It makes sense.

I think you're chasing reasons of the list in the order you want to, and I admire that as a podcast. Yeah, that's good. That's probably true. Game management is obviously a huge strength for him. And like, he turned a desolate building around pretty quickly. So did Ben Johnson. And the strength of schedule thing.

that that is a fair argument to make and to put it into its correct historical context but it's not as though people were looking at them on their schedule to open the season and saying, oh, that's a tough one against the Pats. So it works kind of both ways in that regard that they can't dictate the schedule. He's playing who he's playing with their ill-equipped roster

and winning games. I shouldn't really go negative because I know all the Patriots fans are just going to key on on that. It's more about the positives that the others have brought to the table and the fact that when I look at those beautiful DVOA rankings and I see the Patriots 26th in

defense. I'm like, that kind of makes sense to me. I can see it. This team is tricky and Mike Rable is an incredible head coach. He has not brought great defenses basically wherever he's been. He said he had one or two good years in Tennessee, mostly bad years on defense, including when he was a coordinator.

All right, who is next on your list? Number four. Number four for me is Liam Cohen with the Jags. I think the pressed me the most with Liam Cohen this season is I had real concerns about the staff he assembled and his readiness and preparedness to actually be in the big chair, to make the big boy calls, to have to run the meetings, to make the key decisions and not just kind of be in the background, you know, second guessing what everyone else

is doing in the building. And to see him stave off a mid-season slump to me showed me he's really got the goods for this long term. I knew he was one of the best offensive architects of the modern era. I thought that you could book that in. Was a little bit concerned about the connection with him and Trevor Lawrence and how that would work short term and medium term. but after the collapse against the Texans

to not go into a slump and we've seen the Jags do this before they are regularly every two three seasons of one of the hottest teams in the league for a month they have some kind of slip and often it can just descend from there to him to be able to pull that out address the issues with the team

rework the offense make the trade for Jacoby Myers and make that fit so seamlessly from the jump that to me is as impressive as he's done as a head coach the offensive stuff was always going to be brilliant but what he's done as a head coach with a really an experienced staff

is pretty impressive to me I thought you might have him first. I mean, he's your guy. You were banging the drum this off season and even going into it that Cohen was like a real deal difference maker. If not at the level of Ben Johnson, like very close. And that, you know, coaching candidates like him don't come around too often. And that's why I have them on my list too. I have them third. So you kind of led right into my number three. So we can just talk about him. Now, they did, you know, have the bones of a decent team. in there. They only had four wins last year, but it's a lot of players that were there

when they won nine games back to back the previous two years. But the thing that's really impressive to me, Ali, is you can just see this as a Liam Cohen team. And so when I say that, what is being a Liam Cohen team when you watch this Jaguars team mean to you? It means the explosive plays. It means the commitment to the run game being tied to the play action game and trying to maximize what you can get from Trevor Lawrence. It means spreading the wealth around in the run and passing game with as many weapons as possible. And I think you see all that on film.

The thing that really impresses me is I know they've had the issues with some of the penalties and particularly early in the season kind of the offensive structure in that sense, but all the little details add up with them all over, both sides of the ball and special teams as well. They're one of the best special teams units in the league. And I mentioned the inexperience of the staff.

I was, as you said, banging the drum for Liam Cohen in the offseason as a head coach. I had real reservations about his connection in the league to build a good enough staff around him you know, he's jumped from job to job everywhere. I don't think that within the Lee, he's considered a loyalist guy to maybe go and work for.

And so he's got all these young people built in his image doing a job for the first time. If you just go through their staff or a defensive line coach first time doing that, offensive line coach first time doing that, you can trust it with Ben Johnson. He says, I need people who've done the job before. I'll get Declan Doyle, who's a young, cool, offensive mind to help me out with that stuff. But I'm going to go get Dennis Allen. Someone who's being a head coach can show me the ropes. Liam Cohen built it in his image.

It's all new guys, all his friends, all young people. And I just didn't think that would all come together in year one. I thought it would be a bit more of a slow bill, two years, maybe three years before we would see the best of it. And yet we've already seen it in year one. And I absolutely give credit to the hiring that the coach makes and the fact that he's doing it with such a young staff, a little extra credit there. And then Anthony Campanile, the defensive coordinator, who was, you know, an interesting name,

but a surprising one to get that job out of Green Bay, a guy that they identified and has done a good job. So I think it's the way that Trevor Lawrence has transformed the last five weeks that really does it for me. And I wouldn't have a problem with anyone voting any of these top five number one. But I think that was the last piece that Cohen needed to show was Trevor and him clicking. And we've talked about it on this show. When they brought in Jacobi Myers, Jordan's been all over this and trying to fit the right guys into the right spots. Before we wrap Cohen, And just how have you seen kind of the offense transform and him figure out problem solve as the season's gone on? Because to me, that that is next level coaching.

And really all the guys that we're going to talk about today, I think, has done some form of that. But how has he done it? Yeah, and that's the thing with Liam Cohen is he really just changed the offense every single week. A lot of teams don't do that. They have staple concepts. They maybe draw them up or show a different formation. He will design stuff that is fresh and game plan specific every single week. And you just don't see that even at this highest of level.

And what Myers has done for them is just brought in a professional, capable receiver, who knows where to be, does all the dirt to it, we'll block for you, we'll pin inside, we'll run routes appropriately. We'll catch the ball when it's thrown at him. It's a revolutionary concept for the Jackson scene. When the ball is in your hands, you should maybe hold on to the thing. And so just having that sense of reliability, having Brenton Strange's a sense of reliability.

Where I will not give Liam all the credit is Trevor Lawrence has just gone supernova. I'm not sure that you're quarterback rolling to his left with, you know, pressure in his face and ripping a foot. our bullet downfield is like brilliant coaching. I think that's just a player on a crazy hot streak playing at the peak of his powers. But Lawrence certainly looks more comfortable in the offense. Whereas for the first six, seven weeks,

even when they were winning games, things looked a bit bit bit bit uncomfortable. Yeah, you got to give a little credit to Trent Balke back in the day because some of his players who were making big time plays. I thought about that too in the Broncos game. That, yeah, scheme was great, but they also just like won some one-on-one matchups in really impressive ways. I'm amazed that you only had your guy Cohen

and fourth. I almost only put him third because I didn't want us to get over our skis and just have all Cohen all the time. Who do you have third? I have Mike McDonald third. And this one did because he probably should win. But he just deserves credit for the two key decisions

he made in the offseason, I think, which is moving on from Gino Smith, who unfortunately, you know, sad for us, looks washed in Vegas, going to get Sam Donald, then pairing him and hiring Clint Kubiak. And those are the two biggest, most decisive decisions he could make him one off.

off-season and both have been slum dunks. Yeah, and you look at what he's done on defense, and this is kind of where I'm getting to my two-year process. What do you like best about watching this Mike McDonald defense? I know we're coming off of a rough performance for them, but they're another team that's going to be interesting to watch these last two weeks. He goes up against Canales, and then he goes up against Shanahan in the last week. So my not-so-hot take is this award is yet to be.

one the last couple of weeks is going to matter a lot, but what do you like best about watching this version, maybe year two of the Seahawks defense? What I like this season is it's a little bit more disguise oriented than was last year when he was really trying to figure things out. They had massive communication problems at the first half of last season.

They dressed it with the Ernest Jones trade in the middle of the year, but Ernest Jones struggled with communication himself. So this year they'd be more aligned and being able to get just a broader menu of things. And the thing that McDonald does, I think, better than most defensive minds is they do not run a lot of stuff. He's given like the genius tag because you know he's young and all that stuff but they don't actually run a massive

amount of different things defensively they just always pick the right stuff every week uh you know he'll he'll hit on four or five key principles he wants for the week they use it to the absolute max it's the same style as you'll see with mcvay on offense where it's running the same stuff dressed up slightly differently they bring an offensive mindset to the defensive side of the ball and then he's just had a dominant four down rush i mean they have probably if you look at the old pro teams at the end of the season the interior defensive line two of their guys should probably be the second team interior defensive line players. So they just have a dominant down four to go and play with. Then you can have the kind of fun and creativity on the back end.

Okay. So we've reached our top two picks. And I'm, I guess I'm not shocked because for me, like I said, the top five was relatively easy to get the five. So we had the same five. So by process of elimination, let's just give our top two picks now. Because to me, it's down to McDonald and Kyle Shanahan. And for you, it's down to Rabel and Shanahan. So I'm going to going to give you my top two picks. Your number three is my number one. I am going with Mike McDonald. And it's a combination of everything. And when I first wrote the list, he's fourth or fifth. And the longer I thought about it, I was like, why wouldn't Mike McDonald be the head coach to win coach of the year this year? Because you talked about sometimes it's the guy who

did it versus expectations. And I think that's worth considering. Well, the Seahawks, over under win total before the year, I think is as good a way to talk about as anything. They were an eight and a half win team before the year in Vegas. That's actually the same as the Patriots. It's the same as the Bears, depending on where you look. It's two less than the 49ers, and they are the best team in the NFL.

So that gets me somewhere if you win these last two games, especially. Then you go to his side of the ball. That does matter to me a little bit. Being that badass play caller, building a side of the ball. That's one thing I guess Rable, you know, just lacks just a little bit.

He had a vision for this defense. They're number one in terms of DVOA efficiency right now. Like, it's been a two-year process. I think they're very good in game management. I think he did well with his hires, especially on special teams. They're an outstanding team. It's just a full, complete team. And when I just went through all the different boxes,

he checked the most of them. And I just thought, well, you should give it to the best team. And it might come down for me to that week 18 game, Kyle Shanahan versus Mike McDonald. If that is for the one seed, It's stupid, but it's probably for my coach of the year, too, because we can get into all the reasons why Kyle Shanahan's having an incredible season. He would be an absolutely worthy winner.

But right now, as it's stacked, I have it, McDonald 1, Shanahan 2. Who do you have on top of your list? So I have Mike Rable 2. I have Kyle Shannon 1. And I'll just say quickly on Mike McDonald. I think that you're absolutely right. They all should be decided by who wins the NFC West. And if that winds up being McVeigh, just give it to McVeigh.

If we're talking about strength of schedule, having to get through that conference, through that division is the toughest thing you can possibly do. And McDonald is a force multiplier defensively that you just rarely see with a head coach. It's hard to find a defensive-minded coach who year-over-year can get the best out of some of the parts. And I think he's obviously done that. And that was the vision when they brought him in, right, to take on Shanna Anna McVeigh in that division was, well, we'll go get the defensive guy who can slow those two offensive gurus down. And if they go on to win the division, they'll have proven the theory.

Right. And let's be real, when we're talking Strength the Schedule, Kyle Shanahan with Mack Jones went to L.A. and won. And it was early in the season, but he got that win against Seattle. So when you think about the brilliance of their offense, obviously it's a year-to-year basis. And it's kind of like I was saying with Andy Reed, and I don't mind giving McVeigh this credit too.

I will give the coach credit for just always being awesome and building a structure where you don't have to start it over from scratch each year. if he goes and does win these final two games, I mean, he will be my pick. Who is your pick between him and Vrable right now? Shannon is one for me. If the job is to be the coach of the year, how is it not coaching to have all those different injuries

and just keep finding a way to churn through and win games, including, as you mentioned, big matchup Thursday night football against the Rams. And this is where I kind of am a hypocrite to myself. because I was down on them coming into the season. And usually with California, it's if they're healthy, they make a championship game or they get decimated by injuries

and they fall off. This year he's been decimated by injuries and still found a way to keep the thing churning. And I just looked into open the year. I didn't think they were as talented as people thought they were anymore. I thought the idea that you could fix something as structurally flawed as their run defense

by just drafting players. I think a draft class could fix your run defense with just kind of fancy land type stuff. And some of that has played out, but to keep doing what he's doing on offense without the lack of playmakers being down off into just it's Christian McCaffrey and nothing else and be able to just sustain a level until you start getting some of the reinforcements back and get a little bit healthy to close the season. It's just, I think, as good as a coaching job

as anyone can do. It could have been very easy, I think, to have a degree of burnout. He's been there so long, the same message. They brought Robert Sala back. That felt very uninspired to me to go back to Robert Sala. And it would have been easy, I think, with all those injuries to have lost the building and for this to have gone off the rails. For him to just keep it chugging along and to being with a real shove, having the one seat is just preposterous. Yeah, I agree, because I know it's coach of the year, but coaching is not a one-year job. We can be the change that we want to see, Ali, and choose the person that is giving yourself a schematic advantage each and every week, has identified the right players for his system, and

that they're able to deal with the kind of losses that they've had this year on both sides of the ball. I think that's great to point out that the offense had a ton of injuries early. And if he somehow finds a way, and look, I think they're probably the underdogs in both these games against the Bears and certainly the Seahawks. But if he can somehow find a way to win those two games, it's undeniable because it's Mac Jones stepping in. You get kind of both cases. Sometimes it's a big coach of the year thing when you can win with the backup. So you got to get the case with the backup and a lot of backups on the offensive line at the skill positions when Mac Jones was in there, and they found a way to get it done offensively.

But you're also seeing, okay, with Brock Purdy and the skill position guy's healthy, this is maybe the best offense in the league. It's certainly in the top five. And then you give Shanahan credit for that. I want you to give all the great reasons why Mike Rable is number two on your list and knocking on the door. Maybe wins this award in the end. I just think you're understating what a mess that entire building was in last season. And to have even smiles on faces would have been an unbelievable job.

And he's not exactly a guy who comes into but smiles on faces in the first place. So it's an unbelievable turnaround to me, obviously unlocking Drake Mayn, whether it was Robert Kraft who hired him, where I think Jonathan Kraft did hire Josh McDaniels, but being able to acquiesce that and kind of accept and submerge your ego to say, okay, that's best for the franchise, we'll do that, that pairing working really well. And I know you mentioned defensively they've not been that good. They did lose their DC for the entire season, essentially. Terrell Williams going out with the cancer diagnosis.

He was back in the building last week to help out and being willing to step and say, well, put Zach Corr in charge, who is a really young guy, has only ever called defense at the college level, to be willing to let someone do that and take on more responsibility in that direction himself as the head coach, I think is pretty cool stuff.

So to even stay afloat when you've had that happen to the building with the lack of just general talent they have on that side of the ball, and they've had a bunch of injuries on that side of the ball too, just staying afloat in. enough to allow the offense to take over and close out games, I think is pretty remarkable. I think that's all dead on. I'm almost hearing like Belichick's voice in my ears like, well, Reg is, you know, points, points matter too, don't they? And it's like, yeah, they are seventh in points allowed. Points is an important statistic when it comes to

defense. And yes, the schedule helped them on that too, but they've been pretty good in situational football. And that's the thing that you've gotten with Rabel is you're getting the full suite. It's not like, it's not like a coach. with, like, he's got this strength, but some real shortcomings there. He can do this. Like, you get Mike Rable and he can do it all in terms of leading the building, leading the players, not just motivation, but understanding the right buttons to press strategically, because they are one of the best teams in terms of game management and the staff he's brought in. And the staff he took over. It's all fair. I'm totally happy if Rable wins the award.

It's just very difficult to split these five up. They're all, it's a very strong year. I can't remember a year like this where there's this many good candidates. No, I think Vrable also deserves credit for every single bet he's made. You know, you called him the shadow GM. I think he's just the GM. I think that he was just like whatever you say, boss. Every single bet he made where he was sort of mocked, right?

He's coming back and he's getting the Tennessee band back day. I was like, well, how great were those Tennessee teams in the first place? This thing has a chance to maybe go off the rails. Does he still have the magic? Does he really make a significant difference as a play call in any side? of the ball. If he's the overseer, how is this going to go? Well, he came in the institute at the cultry. He brought in Bobby Spillane. He bought in Caleb on Chase. They signed Milton Williams to big money. Every single one of those bets he's made, even trading away,

established veteran safety to say, we're going with the young guys. And the young guys are played significantly better than the vets who they've dealt away elsewhere. So putting trust and faith in some of the young plays and some of the play development has been impressive too. And their favor to go 14 and 3. All they got to do is beat the Jets. I think the Dolphins will be a little trickier in week 18, but they could be 14 and 3. And if they are, that would be my guess is he would win the award,

barring Shanahan winning these two games. But my vote is for Mike McDonald. I would have no problem with him winning. I personally don't give him the extra credit, or at least much for the signings, but I think it's totally reasonable to do so and to think about the personnel of it all when you got Mack Hollins out there making big time

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Yes, got the news, Ali, on Monday that DK Metcalf will be suspended two games for physically confronting a Lions fan in detail. Detroit. As of this taping, we're waiting to find out about the appeal. One reason why I didn't bring it up on the Monday night. Recap, first of all, I was just basking in the afterglow of Philip Rivers playing outstanding. But the other was I was hoping to find out about the appeal. But as of this taping, we don't know. It could possibly go down to one game. Mike Tomlin spoke about the suspension and D.K. Metcalfe on Tuesday. He did explain to me why he did what he did.

I certainly don't condone the behavior, but I support D.K. And I really don't have a lot to add other than what I just told you. I think he has a hearing this afternoon and appeals hearing. And I certainly don't want to weigh in prior to that. And certainly I've heard more recently that there might be legal ramifications. And so I better be careful about what I say and how I say it. The NFL, you know, had a statement supporting pretty clearly in the player conduct, policy of why they made the decision that they made.

Just thinking about it on the field, Ali, there was a part of me that just wanted to be smarty and be like, well, this is what Aaron Rogers and Arthur Smith want. Anyways, an entire offense built out of Kenny Gainwell, Darnell, Washington, with a little bit of Jalen Warren and Scotty Miller mixed in. Do you think this impacts the Steelers, especially this week against the Browns trying to win the AFC North? I think it does against the Browns because you're going to see such a man coverage

heavy unit and the only man coverage they beat that they have is just let's get the ball to decay and so if you've ripped that out I think that's a problem. It's actually hilarious that the lines switch to the most zone coverage they've played in two seasons effectively against the one team they didn't need to do that against and then got

roasted yardage-wise so I think it impacts against the Browns I think less so against the Ravens where they can just get into big bully ball mode and run the ball down their throats a little bit of Ben Scronic thrown in, but I think it does impact the man's the Browns. Yeah, it's a really interesting what if, because if they had seen what happened on Sunday between DK shoving, grabbing the collar of the fan, he would have gotten ejected from that game.

And ultimately, he did make some key catches down the stretch in that game, which helped them win. And because they did win that game, they might not need him at all to win the AFC North. They might not even have to play to win the AFC North. because the Ravens are on Saturday night. They're going to be underdogs against the Packers. We're still going to have to find out who the quarterbacks are there. But the Ravens lose that game. And then, yeah, the Steelers win on Sunday.

You know, they could take care of business before D.K. is even back. Okay, let's talk Christmas games. I joked about it at the top. We've all had our fun. This is what it is. And people are saying, are they going to build in flexible, you know, scheduling into future Christmas games.

If it's in the middle of the week, it's tough. Like Patrick Mahomes did not tear his ACL until a week and a half before this game. I don't know if they're going to be able to have a situation, for instance, where they could flex it that close for a midweek game anyways. They don't do that right now. And for instance, with the Minnesota Vikings losing J.G. McCarthy and Washington, you know, all these injuries happen late. It's just what happens at this time of year.

The football schedule is unpredictable. But it will start on Netflix, Ali, with the Cowboys being seven-point favorites. In Washington, we got Iron Eagle, Nate Burleson, and Matt Ryan. These are kind of one-off crews here for the Netflix games. But I like that crew. I'm looking forward to it. We kind of decided to pose this as like, what would you look forward to in this game? Ali, like, I don't know what your plans are on Christmas.

Are you in Manchester? Like, where are you going to be on Christmas? I will be in Manchester. I will be glued to Netflix and then to Amazon prime later on to watch these glorious series of matches. No, you don't have to do that. I'm saying, like, in any football game, I do feel like a sicko sometimes. Like, whenever these games get closer, I do get a feeling of just like, I am excited. Here comes another NFL game that hasn't left me here.

On Christmas, it's a little much. But there's always something to watch. For me, I guess I would just start with Dak Prescott, who's coming. coming off a fantastic game against the Chargers. And I know a lot of people say, like, oh, winter football. Like, I love it with the weather and the conditions and, like, close, cold weather games. It's like, no, I'd rather see Dak Prescott ripping highlight reel throws in George Pickens and C.D. Lamb, kind of just going nuts on a pretty underwhelming defense.

And I can absolutely see that happening. I know it's in Washington, so the weather could be bad here, but I do think it could be a game for Dak to just go off and put up some big numbers. I actually think this is a fun early one because I think we're going to get a ton of points. Since week eight, the commanders, 32nd in the league and past defense EPA per play, the Cowboys are 31st. And Marcus Mariotta is no longer just kind of the efficient get the ball out guy that he's being for most of his great. He is gunning down the field. I don't know where he is right now, but a couple of weeks back, he was the leader in the league in yards per attempt.

And he is really trying to drive the ball down the field in ways that Marcus Mariot is not normally accustomed to doing. So we're going to get Dak throwing heaters. You got bombs away Marcus Mariotta. We got two stinky defenses. I think there could be some fun points on the line. Now, I did a bad job setting you up because as of Tuesday, we do not know the starting quarterback of Washington. But I did some digging this morning.

And by digging, I mean I searched Twitter. And Marcus Mariotta not seen at practice the last two days. They have been practicing. And then I did a little more digging, which is just texting various insiders and whatnot who would know more. And again, no one is reporting. No one knows, but I think the betting favorite right now would be Josh Johnson starting this game for the commanders, in part because they signed Jeff Driscoll to the active roster off the street, which we're getting deep here. And the reason they would sign Driscoll, I don't think is to start Driscoll, but because they don't trust Hartman, Sid Hartman, to even be their backup, Sam Hartman, rather.

I was thinking about Sid Luckman, the great quarterback back. in the day. Sam Hartman, that they don't even trust him to be the backup, but who knows? Maybe it's Driscoll and Johnson on Christmas. So that could be good. It's a group that would make the Cowboys look better defensively. That is true. Josh Johnson also has no pulse, so he almost will be bombs away. So that's exciting. So I think that he could have a drive up and down the field type situation. In respect to who's plays quarterback for the commanders, there will be a sea of coverage bus in the flakiest defense in the league

that plays about three different coverages and Samar still finds a way to bust it four or five times a game. I know it's on three days' rest, but who would complain if Philip Rivers just joined the commanders right now and you put him on Christmas against the Cowboys?

Philip Rivers might complain. It might be tough in that offense. I'm liking Dallas. I'm giving everyone free picks just for a little extra value. Dallas covering the seven here. I did want to listen to Jerry Jones, by the way. after the game on Sunday, he was asked about the difficult decisions

when it comes to Matt Eberflus, his coordinator, after the season. I don't know that, relatively speaking, I might not count it as difficult. It's certainly something that we have to do, and that is look at the entire year and look at what our options are and how to correct not being here at the same time next year. That is absolutely brutal.

I mean, he was in the family, Matt Iberfluse. How do you even show forward the next day of you, Matt Iberfluse? It's like, if you're going to let me go at the end of the season, can I just get to Miami two weeks early and go and have a vacation? You're a professional and you think about hopefully the generous contract. I'm guessing that Matt Iberfluse is near the top of the defensive coordinator pay rankings in the NFL, and that money is guaranteed after this year. So you keep showing up and collecting those checks for two more weeks

and hope that you have a good matchup against Josh Johnson. All right. In the middle matchup, we have the Lions. This will matter for playoff positioning. If the Lions lose this game in Minnesota and get swept by the Vikings, because yes, the Vikings beat Minnesota, I mean, beat the Lions earlier this season, then the Lions are eliminated here in Week 17. That would be really sad.

It would be even sadder because they're facing our guy. Max Brosmer. The Lions are six-point favorites in Minnesota. What are you looking for most in this game? What I'm looking for is the offensive line, the Lions, and the Interior Offensive Line.

Do we have a health update on who will be starting at Center for the Lions? Are we aware of who that will be? Because this thing of rotating through and changing your center almost drive by drive, both being terrible, both being unable to snout the ball. It's a real, real problem. Jared Goff deserves so much credit for last week

for standing in an absolute fire. It was a storm around him and just throwing dime after dime down the field. But they've had a compromised offensive line for the entire season. This was Penny Sewell's worst game of the season. Oh, wow. And probably the worst game of his career last week.

And the interior is just such a problem. And it really showed up that if your interior is weak and particularly if it's slow off the ball, it is the whole house of cards falls in. So they've got to try and correct some of that stuff. They've got to have a solid protection plan against the chaotic and chaos of Brian Flores. and I just got to see, does that thing look a little bit tightened up?

Because even if they sneak into the postseason here, I just think they are so fundamentally flawed with that offensive line that they'll get waxed early on anyway. I mean, Kingsley Egukon, he had some fun run game reps. I don't know. Maybe those are just like highlight real reps. But it's funny because we're watching Jared Goff's best moments last week. And because you're talking about the interior line, I'm looking,

and the interior line caves basically every play. They're at backups everywhere. and even the tackles. You mentioned Sewell struggled, but Taylor Decker is not quite what he once was. And I agree, Gough is playing quite well over the last five or six weeks. I think he's playing fantastic. But this is a dangerous matchup.

The Vikings defense, I couldn't believe this. They haven't given up a passing touchdown in like nine weeks. It's an NFL record. And they are balling out right now against bad offensive lines. This is a tough front for them to go against. Let's actually listen to Dan Campbell, because we've been talking about the run game struggles for a while that Detroit's had.

They just aren't the same team when they can't run the ball. It takes really all 11 guys to get the run game going. You know, everybody's got to be on par. So, you know, one time it's one player here, whether it's in the O line or at another spot. It's not just there. You know, the backs are involved, receivers, tight ends. So we just kind of took turns with whether it was. some of the combinations or we're not, you know, we're not honoring the ID or maybe it's not the

right read. But yeah, we had, there was a couple in there, you know, I wish I could have had the calls back, a couple of calls back. Tad Dan Campbell's kind of bumming me out right now. It's too bad because they didn't make that pass interference call on Tisla. This game would mean a lot more. And they would have found a way, you know, despite being down 12 points with under five to go to win that game. I thought that was a bad call, but what are you making of what Dan Campbell has been doing as a play caller and where he's at as their coach? I thought he was doing well and he didn't change a dramatic amount of the offense. He just started trying to feature players more. He would kind of move around who was

wearing the read to try and feature players more than before when it was Moten and it was just more of just call the plays and the guys are lined up where they lined up. So I thought that was a smart little switch that he made. I thought last week against the Steelers was just very bizarre and that he abandoned a ton of the key principles that the Lions have. You mentioned some of the run game struggles. They've over all the play action system because how poor the interior is, Jared Gough wants to play in a

vertical play action set where it's him deep in the pocket, right? It's the classic like duo inside runs. You get the fake handoff. It's a deep vertical pocket. They don't move the pocket an awful lot. They had to move the pocket against the Steelers because you can't just sit in a deep vertical set if the interior is getting caved in every single time. And Jared

Goff is the guy who can play on the move. He's not a boot action thrower. He's a deep vertical play action throwers. So you start taking that stuff away from the Lions, you have real issues. They didn't have as many crossing and runaway type routes where you're just running to grass. There was a lot of return to the quarterback hitches and stops. That's just not who the lions have been throughout the entirety of this run. So that gave me real pause that he was pretty concerned about his own personnel and talent. And it ties up to what he's seeing there. So much of what they've done over this room with Ben Johnson, then to Den Campbell is based

off the tight end. And the Titan being a true all-round player who can impact the run game, could impact that vertical play action game. They just don't have that right now, La Portero. Yeah, if you think of their season, that lost to JJ McCarthy and the Vikings. It was kind of the canary of the coal in the coal mine

of like everything that was going to come later that wasn't going to work. They could not run the ball at all in that game. They ended up with 65 yards, or they were just banging their head against the wall and the defense did not play well, and it has not played well. I like the Vikings to at least cover

the six. This does not count towards my weekly pick show. These are not my official picks. We're just given extra because we want to on Christmas. And you know what's a little extra is getting Max Brosmer in what could be the most watched game of the entire season. Because the afternoon Christmas slot is like the afternoon Thanksgiving slot, sort of set up to be as most watched as it could possibly be. And Brosmer came in at halftime last week. Now, they only scored three points. Scoring points is important in the second half. But he did have a game-winning drive to set up that field goal. Let's actually listen to Paul Allen

call the best Max Brosmer throw of the year. Max Brosmer. The Vikings 4 of 8 on third down, looking at a third and 17. He'll throw left to Jefferson, caught at the 46, and yes.

That's a cold-blooded connection. Right hash, left sideline, 22 yards, Brosmer, to Justin Jefferson and a first down. That really was an awesome throw. That's Paul Allen on KFAN and Pete Bursich. I love the intensity.

This Vikings team, this broadcast crew, they have not lost any intensity. That was third in 17, and I don't think it actually set up the game-winning field goal, but it was a dime. And I'm thinking back to when we watched them in London, and we saw Brosmer warming up on the sidelines after Carson Wentz took that big hit where it was Carson-Schwestner that hurt him. We thought Brosmer was coming in. We thought that was going to be a moment.

Now we get a moment on Christmas. What are you thinking the Max Brosmer experience is going to be like? I was excited for people who don't know. My former staff at Western Michigan, they went to Minnesota. Max Brozen was their quarterback there at Minnesota. Everyone there absolutely loves Max Brosman, loves the intelligence, loves how well he understands the game. And so I was a little bit bought in to all those kind of cliches

and the under the hood stuff about the quarterback. And I was buying some of the kind of titill-dding stuff going around the surface about, well Kevin O'Connell in training camp with Brosman versus McCarthy and someone understands the playbook and someone's really struggling then I did watch the Seattle game and go okay I've been duped a little bit here the kind of staffed the physical

to maybe play in the NFL I thought I did enjoy the Paul Allen on that throw is making it out like it's some kind of Brett Faf complete sizzler to the sideline I don't think it was quite necessarily to that level but I think he will at base minimum get them in the right plays get the play called in time get them lined up not blow the protection assignments

the way J.J. McCarthy did and got himself hurt at the weekend. So if they can just scrabble out enough points to let the defense go feast, I think they can keep it close. And for most of the world, that understandably did not watch the Vikings Giants game, which was comedy last week. Justin Jefferson made about three or four plays that only Justin Jefferson would make in that game. Justin Jefferson is still bawling out. It still is a great group around Brosmer. The problem is Ryan Kelly, their center has a concussion. I assume we're not going to see him again this year. Christian Derrissah, their left tackles out.

They also lost the guard. So they were missing an entire side of their offensive line. And that's troubling. But I think they'll keep it close, and I think the defense will play well. And it's a good matchup for Brosmer because the lion's defense has been one of the worst in the league statistically for now five or six weeks.

Let's wrap up on Christmas night. I forgot that Paul Allen called the worst throw of the year. Unfortunately, I don't think any throw is going to top that. That's going to be on the top of the podium at the end of the year. Let's go to Kansas City. 13 and a half point favorites. The Broncos need this game to keep control of the AFC West

and the number one seat. So it is very important for them that they bounce back and win this game. I think probably the number one reason to watch here is Schaude. Just everyone who's gotten their teeth kicked in by the Chiefs over the last few years. I have our producer, Eric,

who's a Bill's fan, just shaking his head back there. I don't think a lot of America is going to mind the chiefs getting the doors blown off them at home on Christmas. As cruel as that sounds, I just think it's kind of true. No, I think that's true. The Broncos, they want to prove that they can truly be contended in the SEC. They've got to completely rip apart the chiefs and just rip the throat out and have it over by half time. Have Travis Kelsey going up and down the sideline screaming at everyone, how dare my career end this way, all that kind of stuff. I think that is what you will be shooting in for.

I hate that this will probably be Travis Kelsey's last game at Arrowhead. We got the news on Monday that the chiefs are officially moving across state lines. It's about 19 miles away, but to Kansas, got a lot of public money that convinced them to build the stadium there. it's going to be a dome stadium and I'm just thinking man when they first mapped all this out they could have never imagined a scenario where we are announcing that we're moving to Kansas

and I know it's still Kansas City I've driven through there it's Kansas City on both sides yeah I get it still the people in Missouri are not thrilled and they could not imagine that they would be six and nine right before a Christmas game where the number one-seated Broncos are coming in

and you have Chris Olatakun starting at quarterback. It's going to be tough. I can't really come up with any, like, football reasons to watch because I did watch the Olatakun, you know, reps. And he looked like a third-string quarterback who was a seventh-round pick for the Steelers. Like, I've seen worse, but he's not going to be able to lift up an offense that has its share of issues, especially on the offensive line against this Denver team, who has to be pretty upset with what happened.

last week against the Jaguars, Ollie. Yeah, I think that you're looking at an offense that's completely devoid of identity and I just thought we'd never, ever think that in the Andy Reid era. And it's a reminder of just the specialness of Patrick Mahomes when you see what it looks like when you rip him out of the starting lineup.

You're watching this to cheer the fact that Nick Wright is very, very sad somewhere smoking as many heat as possible to get through the fact that Shane Bouchelle may be in by the fourth quarter of this thing. And honestly, to see how Bo Neck stands up against Bagnolo, think that is a real thing. Spaggs, his defense this year has been all over the place by his

standards. He has become even more of a blitzing maniac than he has in recent seasons. His second down blitz rate has skyrocketed to the highest amount in his career. That is a key sign with Spag's that he does not like the goods. He doesn't feel he's got the goods on defense. I do want to see Al-Boh Nick's standard and handles all out pressure stuff as we get towards the postseason and people build a Nick specific plan just to kind of see what he looks like. I think that they will absolutely roast them. But that is one thing football-wise that I'll be watching. Yeah, I was disappointed by the Chief's defense last week. They threw a lot at Kim Ward initially, and then they just caved in.

And there wasn't a ton of fight there, and the Titans' offense looked as good as it's really looked all season long against this Chief's team. So I expect Denver to bounce back big time. And we're friends of Nick Wright, fans of Nick Wright, but I think he would enjoy, you trash-talking him like he's been trash-talking the rest of the league for a long time. I did see a graphic going around of him predicting how the AFC West would go. And of course he had the Chiefs first. And he took the Chiefs, I think, first in our over under Win Totals draft. I would have taken them too. I thought they were going to hit that

over. So everyone would have had the Chiefs first. But he had the Raiders in the playoffs and second. And he should have to wear that almost as much. You know what's annoying about this? And this is a very, you know, self-centered take. You know, I hate Patrick Mahomes getting injured so much. It ruins it ruins like the sport next year to start. It ruins, you know, the middle of one of the best players of all times career. But it also almost ruins my ability to enjoy dunking on the Chiefs right now because it's just more sad than anything. I like, they should just be six and nine or seven and eight with Patrick Mahomes.

And that would be much more fun for me to like enjoy their downfall. This just seems sad. This is just depressing. I'm ruining the end of Christmas. I mean, it's supposed to end Christmas. That's true. against Vance Joseph. That's a great gift to me and I've lost it. To be real, you've seen some great final moments in a stadium and everything. Maybe they get Travis Kelsey a touchdown or something

like that and it could be a cool moment. I'm sure Andy Reid is, if he's doing anything this week, it is working on some special plays for Travis Kelsey to get a touchdown and to have a final moment. We can only hope he is as successful as Kellyn Moore was for Tassum Hill. at the Super Dome last Sunday. Amazing moment. Taysam Hill was crying on the postgame. All time, like, his home fan base is going to love Tysm Hill forever. Good job by Kellynne Moore and Tysm Hill.

Good job by you, Ollie. Appreciate you having you on, stepping in, and we'll get you back on our Saturday Sicko show in a couple weeks. But in the meantime, enjoy Christmas, enjoy the family. All right, that is it for today's show. We are going to be back on Wednesday. I'm losing track. We're coming back a little earlier than normal

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