NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Cooper Kupp Injury, Coaches Reveal All

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

In a room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosnethal, and Marc Sessler get you caught up with the news from around the league including Cooper Kupp's injury (07:25), Nathaniel Hackett's response to "Hackett Job" (09:09), unfortunate news out of Bronco's camp (16:25), and more! After the break, ATN hits the road and drops in on news conference around the league to ask questions to coaches like Sean McDermott (30:43), Jonathan Gannon (38:40), Ron Rivera (40:52), Mike McCarthy (48:07) and more.  NOTE: Time codes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is ready for a week of Swifties. From the Chris Wessling podcast studio, it's Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have heroes here. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Taylor Swift, six sold-out shows at SoFi Stadium right across the sidewalk. It's probably going to get a little messy around here in terms of traffic flow.

the city of England had never quite figured this out and now they're building an arena up the street a bomber and the clippers anyway what's up everybody they're out there

already the Swifties are out there they're buying merch I wouldn't say they'll come as strong so far as as the BTS army but they're out there

I love someone suggested to our friend Bergo who's a young single man he should just like go prowl that would be a good place to meet people

you know A lot of teenagers, right? A lot of women in their 30s. Yeah, that's true. She does spend. She is Swift. What I love about. A lot of Swift talk.

I love monoculture that doesn't really exist anymore for the most part. But Taylor Swift represents whatever's left of the monoculture. This is Bruce Springsteen in 1985. To have an artist this big, this dominant at the top of her craft creatively and also commercially, it's her imperial period. And I love it. I'm looking forward to the show. And nobody won the. nobody won the raffle connected to us

but we can't be a surprise, Mark, after the approvals controversy. Well, no, something there feels very suspicious and I, you know, I know that there was an investigation at hand about that. I like the Springsteen parallel that you've drawn. I drove in today and there are, there are already people already lining up for merch. Like, it's very

busy. There's a lot of foot traffic. But the BTS crowd, if I'm not, if, I know you went to the show, Greg, but like, I recall no. Oh, I thought you did. I recall them being like, it was a young crowd, but wearing like kitty cat ears and dressed up as like cats and stuff. Am I wrong about that? Well, you're the cat guy.

Look at your laptop. You tell us. I mean, there were some. There was a lot of like cosplay stuff going on. I think that's absent with the Taylor Swift. Incorrect, actually. This is the Erez tour and people are going to the shows dressed in various different Taylor eras. Well, I'm correct.

You're going to see a lot of that. Anyway. You're going. So you can give us a firsthand report. Boots on the ground. Yeah. Taylor Swift, Imperial, period. I got some developing news right off the bat.

We got a lot to get to, but this is important. It's like, you say that right before something that's not important. That's the key. You tell me this isn't important? How long have we wondered about Tom Pelliserro and the nickname we crafted and whether he's aware of it? How long? From the minute that we crafted it. We don't have a personal relationship with him.

A year plus. There's no way for us to know. Yeah. I did say hello to him at the Content Summit. You guys weren't there. Hello was about the extent of it. And he did not ask about you guys. Well, that's no surprise.

Well, according to some recent developments, he's a fan, maybe just shy. This is Colleen Wolf at Steelers Camp. It was Colleen left, baldy center and yes the insider tom pelcero right tom i don't know if this is news to you because you usually bring us the news but the around the NFL podcast they have a nickname for you it's called the pell razor and i just want it your reaction if this is in fact how long has this been going on i'm quite some time behind your back tom evidently because i'm a regular viewer of that program i should know that a viewer of the podcast or whatever around the NFL

Pell Razor is with us today. I think it's a 10 out of 10 nickname. I like it. I dig it. Okay, good. So we got the stamp of approval. Did we though? I don't know if we did. I mean, also, Baldi's got our back.

He's a friend of the show. He's stirring the pot a little bit. I love that, man. Well, it's good to know. He's part of our growing subscribers on YouTube. He's more of a guy who watches us clearly. He likes the visual. He was the one sending those emails, tweets over the weekends.

Like, hey, where's the YouTube? The whispers, it took a couple. extra days, just things happen sometimes going up on the YouTube. Pell Razor didn't get his around the app. I mean, Greg, over under on how many minutes he's watched of our show on YouTube. I'm going to put it at seven minutes. And by mistake, if he did, by mistake, I don't. It's a zero. I would say total podcast that he's ever listened to and YouTube's over under, I think, one minute. It was unclear to him that we were a podcast to begin. So like, you know, I think there's some murky. Could he have listened to the Ian Rappaport one where he was on the hot seat?

It would have been possible, but even then I say no. Tom, if you're listening or watching, I believe you. No, you don't. I do. Oh, I do too. No, it's too late. It's too late. And there will be hell to pay.

Pell. To pay. Let's do some news. How many five-year-olds would it take to tackle there, Ken? I don't even know if they could. How many kids would die in the process, I would imagine. I don't know. Do I need to give you a number?

Jesus Christ, Mike Ravel? Like a legitimate number? 35. You want to try it? Test it out? Yeah, can we try it? Sure, as long as you're one of the five-year-olds. Well, that's unpacked there.

Mike Brable, coach of the Tennessee Titans, asked not too far off from the questions that drive me crazy with our mailbag how many five-year-olds would it take to tackle burly titan star running back derrick henry he mentioned the death of children potentially and then settled on what was the number 30 35 35 i don't he's unaware of the child gangs that are that are lurking um through europe and parts of them i feel like that's low i feel like i'm taking the the under he can he could trash 30 easy well it's more he there's not going to be a five-year-old or group of five-year-olds that bring down derrick henry but they could trip him up just by their bodies being at his feet.

You're also asking them to, you know, operate in concert, which is tough for five-year-olds. Like, they'd have to have a real plan. Can they come up with that on their own? Do they have a coach? Well, Henry's got that dog in him, but does the dog stay barking when you see like a night, you know, some kids crying on the floor? It's part of his metal. I mean, five-year-olds are very cute also.

The idea that is he going to- That's not the skill we're looking at. That's not the trait that we're looking for here, though. Cute doesn't stop Derek Henry. I'm just saying, well, that's, will that stop or slow him down, at least? This idea that do I really want to injure these five-year-olds, or am I going to go into more of a soft rush up the middle? Yeah, you have to plan on his, you know, theoretical humanity.

The answer is 26, by the way. Are they male or female? It's a collection. Mark, don't be exclusionary. I've talked to you off-mike about that, and now we have to do it. I'm including... Just because it's football doesn't mean there can't be young women. I'm hoping it's both genders.

and many others. Let's get to the news. Starting with Cooper Cup, not great news for the Rams who will be without their star-wide receiver for multiple weeks it appears. According to Adam Schaefter, a few weeks Cup could be out with a hamstring.

Injury suffered in practice on Tuesday. Cup missed a lot of last season with a high ankle sprain, had one of the great seasons in the history of the sport, a triple crown winner in the season. in the Super Bowl season of 2021, which feels so long ago now. But Cup, sneaky old at 30, Greg, dealing with some injuries here. Should be good to go, but not ideal. Man, he is sneaky old.

He's like been in the league barely longer than Lamar, for instance, in about four years older than him. He had some injuries early in his career. Remember, he missed about half his second season. He had some games where he was like in and out in 2020. It might be one of the stories. also. Right. And it might be one of those stories that's, that's nothing. But I'm, I'm just worried because this whole idea that they're spending training camp, like, we're going to be frisky on offense. The idea is they're good on offense. And yet their number two receiver is Van Jefferson is done close to, you know, very little as a pro. And their number three receiver is, who knows, like two two at well. Van Jefferson has battled knee issues this offseason two. Yeah, this is a weird team. Like, I think they're wind-tose. It's at about like 6.5 if you wanted to take the over, under on that. And I kind of think I'm taking the under.

In other news, let's get back to, I was trying to think of a name, like Hackett Gate or Peyton Gate, but how about Hackett Job? I like that better. Let's get off the gate thing. Yeah, Hackett Job 23. We've been tracking the story closely, Jets offensive coordinator and former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett. attacked in an interview in USA today by now Broncos coach Sean Peyton. We had heard from Sala.

We had heard from Rogers. Aaron Rogers. We had heard from other Jets players. We had heard from Peyton himself stepping back and trying to hide from the controversy. Finally, let's hear from Nathaniel Hackett, who spoke to the media on Tuesday. I've been involved in this business my whole life, 43 years. And as a coach, you know, as a coach's kid, you know, we live in a glass house.

We know that. We all live in different rooms. We all got a key for it. And it's one of those things that there's a code. There's a way things are done in that house. He was also commenting on his surprise that this controversy. He thought it would pop up at some point, maybe not in this form, but it wouldn't be for a few more weeks. It's unfortunate that that had to happen, the comments that were made.

But, hey, they did. I'll tell you, I was probably more surprised that they happen now, was definitely expecting them in week five. So I'm almost thankful that we got that out of the way. We all understand where certain people feel and think. Week five, Jets Broncos. Bad news for Nate. It's going to come up again in October,

but maybe it will be not as hot a story or maybe it will be hotter. I don't know there is the latest. And maybe the final dispatch on this particular gem of the offseason. Well, it won't be the final. I mean, also, Sean Peyton, claimed that he was going to call up Nathaniel Hackett and apologize man to man person to person. And Hackett said that's not happened yet.

And he doesn't expect it to. I don't know. In the end, I think Sean Payton, like, I think there was a strategy behind all this. And I've stood by the fact that I think... I'm sticking to my theory. Yeah, I like that theory. Well, I think your theory is just loose. Theory is on point.

But I think it was in defense of Russell Wilson. But it comes out looking poorly here. And I thought if anything, Hackett just kind of owned it. Like, who's more disappointed about what happened? with the Denver Broncos than Nathaniel Hackett. He's also under a lot of pressure because I think there's some suspicion around, you know, being not attached to Aaron Rogers, the ship sinks right away. Now you're with him again, but the jet schedule out of the gate is really rough.

So I'm interested to see where that team is in week five by the time they played the Broncos. I saw this Hard Knocks ad. I don't know if you've seen it yet, Dan, you got the Hard Knocks podcast coming up. And it said, the most compelling team in the NFL. And that's the New York Jets. And we're just adding, we're just adding fuel to the fire. It's great. And you're right that it's coming back up in week five.

But I think Mark hit the key point here. It was like Sean Payton just showed his ass. I don't care that he said it at all. I actually don't even care that he regretted it afterwards and apologized for it. Like that's all fine too. But you're just being a total phony if you didn't actually call the man. Just be a human. You know what I mean?

Of course. You're a complete phony who's just being tried to manipulate the media in one way first, then tried it the other way. And it's like, you couldn't be a real dude and actually just call the guy and have a talk. Right. And yeah. Also, what are you going to say to him? Well, sorry. Why did you just be sorry?

It could be a three minute conversation about this other person. Well, just like I obviously believed it. But are you going to say you, right. Are you going to say I don't actually believe what I said about you? You say, like, I shouldn't have said that. I got carried away. You know, there was the way, right. He showed, Sean Payton showed so much of his ass that they had to blur out the bottom of his butt crack.

It got so, it was so full. If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping. True, true, true. All right. That is Hackett Job 23. And yes, the Hard Knocks podcast with me and Colleen Wolf will actually debut later this week with a preview episode. I had a great conversation today with Rich Samini of ESPN, who's covered that team for, almost 35 years longer than any beat writer ever.

Very nice convoy. And then we'll have shows every Tuesday night recapping each episode. First guest on the show, The Face. And longtime Jets fan, Rich Eisen will join. What a lineup. To recap episode one. It's going to be great. Do you think that Greg and or Mark will appear at some point on the show?

Would you like to be on the program? I would want to be on any program, but especially this one. I would say, now you sound like Sean Payton. No, but I would like to be on any program. So I've had my issues, my ups and downs with hard knocks. Right. Not this time. You're all in.

This is what I've been waiting for. If you are all in on the program. Don't spoon feed it when I'm not asking for it, but now I'm asking for it. If you're all in. Yeah. Because that's the shows for people that are all in. Haven't I been pro Jets this off season? I'm not trying to.

Largely, yes. Well, like mostly. Yes. So yes, I want to be on the program. But this isn't so much about the Jets. It's about Hard Knocks the program, which doesn't have to be all sunshine and rainbows. Right. Right.

If you're excited to talk about the show and watch a show, that's exactly the type of guest. But I'm only asking for like two or three minutes. Oh, really? Oh, really? Squeeze me in. Just squeeze me in to a... It doesn't sound all in.

I mean, if I'm... I am all in. If I'm doing like a ranking, like a power rankings of who's been in on Hard Knocks over the years, Dan's Clear number one. Yeah. I'm like on the payroll. I'll throw Colleen in there now, too, because she's involved, like, with it. I'm strongly right behind them.

Always been a supporter. Sport of all NFL Films Enterprises. Wes was next. He had mixed feelings. He started to get a little sick of it, and then I would rank you last. Yeah, but that, see, don't you see the dynamic? I was in that spot down at the bottom. I would argue Wes and I were probably equal, but like I'm now saying I'm enthused.

There's some enthusiasm. We're going to take that under advisement. I'll have a conversation with Colleen. I don't know what else to say. Colleen's going to say no? Then I've never had an issue with her, but that would. Put it this way. Now that we've had this conversation, if you're,

you're not on the show, you'll know why. Yeah, I will. So will everyone else. I also don't like how much pop quarterback got versus Hard Knocks, that this was somehow the most important football show in the world. And I push back on that. And so now I'm rededicated myself. That's a little straw manny.

Your old boss, Floreo apparently wrote that. Well, it's not a straw. Nobody else is saying that. It's a powerful opinion maker in the NFL. There's no straw here. You might be on the payroll still. Flushing blood. Anyway, good stuff.

And I did talk to Samini real brief, but we got to move on. But I said, all you ever hear about Hackett, by the way, other than the disaster of Denver, was he so fun to play for. I think Hard Knocks is going to be interesting to see what does fun mean. What does fun mean in the NFL? Why does he make it fun? I think if your HBO, it's like if Hackett was like number eight person that you're going to cover,

he's like rising up the charts. It's a great example of stuff that happens in all careers. it's like not everyone is meant to be the person in charge. And oh, by the way, being the person in charge might not be that fun anyways. I feel like Hackett found his level. It should be one down and he can be great at that. All right. In other news, bad news out of speaking of the Denver Broncos.

Broncos defensive tackle, Ayuma, Ayuma, Awuzakari. Help me out. Is it a Yuma? I've never heard anyone say his name. Ouzakari, Ouzareke, rather. This is a hard one. You're making it tough on the whole population. It's okay.

It's a fourth round. Fourth round pick last year. Anyway, fourth round pick last year. Ayuma Uzzariki was suspended indefinitely last week for betting on NFL games in the 2022 season. And now he is being investigated in a criminal probe. involving gambling this from the Des Moines Register via PFT. The report is that prosecutors in Iowa say a Fandul account,

O'ar Zeriki, controlled was used to make approximately 801 wagers totaling over $21,000, and that's some of the wagers, uh-oh, on both Broncos and Iowa State football games in which he plays. Prosecutors say he bet on four Broncos games for which he was an active last season as well as the Broncos December 18th

game against the Cardinals of game in which he played 29 snaps and had two tackles. There was also an element to this story Greg where he tried to scheme with another person, a woman named Rachel Louise Francis. Now I'm like,

I'm doubting everything. Yeah, it could be Rochelle Louise Francai. I don't know. To disguise his identity and manipulate mobile transactions to make it look like Betts, placed by him were actually placed by her. It's, uh-oh. It's crazy because of the criminal part of it.

First of all, if you do the math, the amount of money he spent and the amount of bets he made, those bets average $26 per bet. Why? So no one's getting rich off this. No one's even trying to get rich off this. But I found it very fascinating. He also was doing like player props involving the Broncos. Like Broncos related ones were up to 32.

I mean, you could absolutely get inside information. and who knows if he had that or not, my guess would be not based on the lack of money he was actually putting down here. But the Iowa State quarterback is also wrapped up in this and it's probably going to be suspended forever. Like, I don't know if he had a pro career, but his football life is essentially over for this.

You just hope that this is like learning process for some of these players that we won't keep going through this. But I don't know. I might just keep happening year after year. I think now, though, there's got to be, there's awareness now because we've had these suspensions that have come in bunches, but these rolling investigations, because it's like, they all happened a month or two ago, guys getting suspended. This happened, like, I have two questions. Some of it happened two years ago while he was at Iowa State. They were already

investigated. Well, but I mean the NFL's, like, you know, dropping the suspension. We're close to games and we're close to real games. I know we're saying when the season really starts, but it's like, will this kind of thing happen where the NFL learned something? in week three and they suspend someone. And will it ever be a star player? It's all these guys who are kind of like backup, backup dudes. And they're gone and it's like, cool, have a nice time. But like...

Calvin Ridley and Jameson. Ridley makes sense. But like, I'm just saying, I'm wondering, like, will we be hit with one where the NFL has to make a really tough decision on someone caught doing something and they're a major headliner? Good story to watch. Big story to watch. Is there any good news coming out of Denver camp right now?

the Broncos waved wide receiver KJ Hamler with a non-football injury designation on Monday. That coming after he's diagnosed with a heart issue that led to his exit from Broncos camp. There is a positive spin to this that Denver, despite waving Hamler, they still see a future with him. And Peyton said that Hamler is expected to be out approximately a month as he treats the condition. And the hope is that he'll be back with the team, former second round pick who's had trouble like so many. Broncos wide receivers in the last couple of years, really getting his career going amidst injuries and ineffective quarterback play. Maybe he's a player for them. Maybe he's not. They could use them. They had four wide receivers going into last season that looks so promising Patrick,

Judy, Sutton, and Hamler. I really liked Hamler as a rookie. Those four guys have never played and completed a full game together. Like that was their vision that all these guys are pretty young, varying levels. Patrick's a little older. And they played exactly. one game altogether, and by the end of that game, I think it was Judy or Sutton who was her. And it's just now you would assume it's never going to happen. Yeah, we're three years in talking about Denver's offensive lineup as simply more potential than anything we've seen. I do think it's interesting that with Peyton there, Marcus Calloway is there, our friend little Jordan Humphrey. Lil Jordan. I get sort of a friend of the show. I don't know if he,

I don't know if he was on the show. Yeah, I don't know if he thought that was the greatest moment of his life that interview but um i don't think he's ever thought of it ever again no i'm sure escaped the memory right away but issues marvin minns i guess he's going to be get you know more meaningful snaps right away at this point in other injury news the tampa bay buccaneers will be without their first round pick for a month at least it appears ESPN's adam shepter reported that defensive tackle colaja can't see the 19th overall pick in this year's draft has a strained calf, Joe Burrow injury, and the hope, as like with Joe Burrow, and with virtually every player who has a chance, the hope is that he'll be back for week one. Mark, this is a buck's defense that regress last year that needs some fresh blood.

The idea is that can't see he will be an immediate contributor. And now most of his summer gets wiped out by a lower body injury. It's not good, Bob. No, and they want them to, you know, right away line up next to Vita Vaya. and this is someone they've talked about as like a little Aaron Donald type player Lance Zerline compared him to John Randall, the old Vikings Havoc Rieker,

who was an incredible defensive player. And I think in general, like the Bucks, you know, if he comes back and he's healthy, it's like we kind of just written off the Bucks. I feel like if I look at one team just because of their quarterback situation in post Tom Brady, it's like the Bucks actually have a lot of talent on defense. And they're a team that in a soft NFC

in a winnable division have just been counted out. I feel like the Bucks barely exist. I cannot remember a quarterback battle getting less attention than Baker versus Trask. And it sounds like it's a real battle. That Trask. There's a report today that it's tightening up, which is not, I don't think that's a good sign for Baker. It's not good that it's a battle. Dave Conallis, the O.C., who was with Gino in Seattle last year, said, don't cut out John Walford.

And he said, throw him into the competition cauldron. And I said, I like that. That's nice. I think he said the competitive cauldron. I'm going to call it the competition. Hey, Eric Roberts, producer, write that down. That is a goddamn segment, if I've ever heard on the competition cauldron. I was very excited.

I was excited to see. I was like, man, they're all going to start games. It's a good reminder of, you know, different reporting. Vita Vaya had a grade three calf strain and missed like a couple months of his rookie year and came back in the middle of the season, I think it was week five or six, and immediately was great, but he missed a long time. They said this is a grade one strain. The only reason I'm pointing this out is like, well, the Bengals, I wish someone told me which strain Burrow had.

You would guess maybe with their optimism, maybe his was a grade one strain. And that's why they feel confident. I'm going to say it was between a grade one and a grade two. Why are they withholding that information from us? Well, it's a good job by the reporters out there in Tampa. Teams like to keep that close. Someone needs to dig a little here. You know who, you know who's really interested?

They're a weak one opponent to Cleveland Browns. Yeah. So why give them anything? The fact that Jake. Browning is taking their first team snaps, the Bengals that is, um, in practice tells me they can't be that worried. You know, you know, who really wants to know that? Speaking of a callback to an earlier story we've done, the desert wants to know.

It's Joe Burrow playing. Yeah, they do. How about those MVP odds that he was on top of the day before that injury? I'm sure he's not anymore. Onu Zerike is, uh, he's texting his friends over in Cincinnati trying to get some tips. So you just rubbing it in my face that you can say his name? I think I said it wrong. I actually just decided.

I went with the lion's defensive tackle. Levi, when it was a rea? He's just leaning into that habit now. I messed it up. I messed it up. 8 o'clock to light, Gregie. O.J. Howard, remember him? First round pick.

Cut by a team. What team was he on, Mark? He was on the Raiders. Okay. He looked at his notes. Okay. No, but I mean, this is a guy who has 35 receptions over the last three seasons. By the way, a can't miss prospect out of Alabama.

Yeah, I think that's it for him. That's why I wanted to know it, I noted it, Brett Meyer, this was actually a week ago, but he has a job in Denver. He is part of the kicking competition. No one gave Brett Mahar a job until a week ago after what happened, Dan. Gregi, he missed like seven extra points. I get it, but he hit 90% of his Steel goals last year. Especially in the crucible of the postseason,

and he was clearly his mind was all banged up. You don't want to go near a kicker like that. I got respect for the men. He had a great season otherwise, but that sticks in the minds of all. Cowboys running back Ronald Jones suspended two games for PDs. They need it back. Nickelodeon to air the suit.

Super Bowl. My kids will like that. And then finally, Jalen Hurd, the former third round pick who played multiple positions for the 49ers, has retired with the Patriots. And I just wanted to... How did that make our new? How you've gone too much? So you abused it. I have a take here, though.

It better be good. How many careers have ended in Patriots training camp? They end... It always happens. I'm not picking on the poor man, but like Reggie Wayne, our friend Andrew Hawkins. Like all these people show up to Patriots training camp and they're just like, I don't want to play football. Too serious.

Let me do some big corbo digging here because that doesn't make any sense the Nickelodeon thing. But sure enough. Nickelodeon is owned by... You need to double sorts me? No, no, no. I'm just strong.

Why would they ever agree to do that? Nickelodeon is a part of the Paramount Media Networks, which is owned by, I believe, CBS, which is broadcast why would they agree to do what air the Super Bowl

like have an alternate podcast to slice way the radio but it's all their own it's only do you care about children's programming

no I'm saying I wonder why one of the big networks would ever siphon off any of their audience but CBS don't care because

Nickelodeon as I mentioned is part of the paramount media networks just Corpo you know talk conglomorations and you know One fish eats the bigger fish, then gets eaten by the next fish.

That whole thing, the evolution of the business world. It's a little upper level for you, but, you know. Yes, it's over my head. That's what's happening. In the news, we'll be right back. All right, here we go. See, people think we took a break there. But it's really, we're laughing because it's like eight seconds from when we were.

Then they shoved something in. So the listener has to take a break, but we're not. we don't take break really really poignant well i'm teaching you're teaching me about the corporate adult world i'm teaching you about how this broadcast works we don't take breaks just i'm not walking around the hallway in between our show is this part of the show are we leaving this in yeah this is in all right welcome back um in real time we move on now with um this is a great exercise i'm i'm excited about it um all across uh the league every team is in training care the pads are on and people fans want answers to the questions and that's why the media is so important they are the conduit so with that said let's do some head coach press conferences and let's have some fun with it mark try to have fun with it this is a text i got for mark after pitching the idea at 924 a m i'd rather

not attempt to shift into actor mode, but I think the Q&A aspect works. Well, if that's not enthusiasm, I don't know what it is. You know what I'm trying to say. Like, I'm not going to do a bunch of, you know, song and dance and voices. I want to, I'll help you with the press conference part. Right.

This is an entertainment vehicle, first and foremost. I'm not saying you need to become Robert De Niro and become a method actor when you pull a name out of this helmet. Yeah. that I'm holding. There's Jebun helmet. But I would hope that you're going to, you're a very creative person.

Let me set this up this way, Greg. Mark, you're very creative guy. And I think, I believe in you that this segment will fly in large part because of your contribution. TBD. Get them involved. I think that's good. I like a segment where you don't know where it's going to go.

We're just flying by the seat of our pants. I think that was maybe some of the anxiety you were hearing from Mark. that's where you're going to get the best mark in the end. There you go. I like that. You're a prep guy, and I know this is a little bit more live by the scene of hands. Maybe you should be the first coach then.

Right. Because listen, am I sure it's going to go well? No. This segment could be terrible, but we don't know until we try it. So I have, I'm holding this official Giants helmet.

They're very heavy. These officials. I like this segment already. I mean, we could do it with like historical figures in the future. It could have offshoots. Oh, yeah. Put George Washington in this.

I mean more like George. Hallis or something. On the Delaware River, just chopping it up during the rev. If George Washington actually ever existed. Hey, George, it's like, when is this rev going to be over? It's taken forever. For rev. Anyway, 32 coaches in this helmet.

I will pull the first name. And now the other two men in the studio will serve as the jernos. That will ask questions of this coach. Okay. Okay. There's no time limit. It's just, we'll see. We'll just see how it goes.

And I've drawn the name of... It's not going to go on forever, but... Yours might. Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermott. I am Sean McDermott. Hey, what's up, everybody? The day of practice today. And feel good about the progress we're making.

Obviously, a long way to go. But a good start. Open up for questions. Let's be real. The Buffalo Bills have been an NFL centerpiece. what's a successful season? Like, is anything less than, you know, winning the AFC? Something that would put you, let's, on a bit of a hot seat.

It's a good question, Mark. I think what you're expecting me to say is the typical coach answer, that I'm just what's in front of me right now. And right now the focus is on training camp. And then week one against our opponent. I haven't checked in on who it is yet. Oh, it's the New York Jets on Monday night football. You might want to get on that.

Yeah. But I will be honest with you. This is Super Bowl or bust for this team. And I don't think my job is in danger. But I would say many jobs in the organization are in peril if we fall short of the goal this season. And I'm nervous about it because I know we've been building toward this, but I feel really good about the team. I think I got the dig situation under control. That guy is a nightmare behind the scenes.

Just keep it between us. Wait, um, yes. Diggs is a nightmare. Can you expound on that? Um, I take that back. He's, he's, uh, he's a personality, uh, and a charismatic individual. Yeah, we've got a live one here. We're going to need A1 Buffalo News.

Stefan wants to win. And that's what we love about Stefan. He's an incredible competitor as is every other man on this roster. If you're going to be part of Buffalo country. So we're excited about Stefan and, and Josh and, and the whole. gang making magic. What does it mean? Leslie Frazier, gone. You have to do the head coach thing where you're

also calling plays on defense. You're not able to delegate that at this point. Do you feel ready to do all that on game day? Or is it like a little bit too much? Maybe, you know, taking a little big to fight out of the tide. Full disclosure again. I don't know. Maybe I was hanging out with Sean Payton before the conference.

I forgot to hire a new DC. So we had a list that as vacant. That was my bed. But as you know, that that is where I earn my bones down there in Charlotte and I'm feeling good about I'm feeling okay. I'm feeling strong to quite strong in terms of my confidence that the team will be competitive defensively.

You need to get Vaughn back. Juan was our closer. We were never the same without him. We're going to take it easy. He's like 45 years old coming off another knee injury. So not feeling that good about it, that he's going to still be an impact player. But if he is, we will do what we need to do on defense. He's our closer, and Josh will do the rest.

Yeah, Sean, how's that right guard battle going? How is Osiris Torrance coming along? You know, second round. Him is going to be Ryan Bates. Second round pick. I like what Bates is doing, but look out for Ike Bodker. Because he's working, he's grinding. I could tell he wants it.

And Kevin Jarvis is also in that room amongst the right guards. And he wants it as well. That's all I got. Do you ever try to relax a little? I'm going to squeeze it. Like, you know, sometimes. it's like you're the dad driving the, you know, the kids on vacation, and you're gripping that wheel so tight.

You ever just want to like just ease up a little bit? You ever think about that stuff? Do I seem like I'm a tense individual? Yes. What publication are you writing for over there reporting? Are you aware what's happening in Western New York with professional football for the past, I don't know, like 50 years and the amount of pressure I'm under to get over the f***ing hump?

Do you understand what it means to be the coach of the bus? Buffalo Bills and we keep getting back to the playoffs and we can't get over it. Do you know what it means? I'm out of here. You got to be careful. Can I just say unsolicited advice here? Like, is it journal to journal? Be careful what you ask with these guys.

I mean, they are highly strong. It's a high pressure environment. It got a great answer. It got a great answer that's going to be leading WCBB. Well, that's true. That's what it is about. Okay, okay. Okay, okay, I can't look.

Here we go. I do like putting it. Picking it out of it. All right. I'm, uh, I'm Arthur Smith. Interesting. Hey, uh, you know me. I'm Martha Smith.

It's like, yes. I don't, I don't tell you, I'm like the tough guy. Maybe I'm overcompensating because like, you know, dad's the FedEx boss, but I'm the tough guy. Always a lot of sarcasm. What do you got? Well, Arthur, you know, the DeAndre Hopkins signing, do you think that will finally get you over the hump post A.J. Brown and also have you seen Justin Graver, the former producer of around the NFL putting out hype videos for Traylon Burke. Is this wide receiver room going to be worth a damn this year? Yeah, I don't know if this is Jim Wyatt or something. If you're time traveling, but I'm in Atlanta. I'm the Atlanta head football coach.

We've moved on past Tennessee. I parlayed that into this job. So I don't need DeAndre Hopkins. I don't need you at my press conference anymore. I'll see myself out. I'll ask the question. Are you tempted? I understand from ownership on down,

there's this verbal faith in Desmond Ritter. Are you tempted to bring in your old guy, Ryan Tannahill, to run a similar, you know, ground and pound offense that you had back in Tennessee when you were Tennessee's offensive coordinator. You know I love the ground. I love the pound.

I love the possibility of this team maybe being the team of the around the NFL podcast. I hear those guys are pretty big out there. Never! The guy that got kicked out for not knowing where you're coaching,

but he doesn't want that. I got my Tanna Hill right here for you. His name is Taylor Heinecke. That's my Tana Hill. We're not going to worry about the forward pass. Too much? We're going to run the ball we got we got cordarelle we got bijon we got alger we got ridder he can run a little bit

taylor can scamper back there too it's not about it's not about path in the ball in 2020 i'm sorry did you just say sir because i feel like i got my uh headline here we're not worried too much about the forward pass no wow everyone's ziggin we're zagin we're gonna be tougher than you is it overcompensating because i didn't play football at a high level and my dad was a billionaire? I don't know, but we're going to be tougher than you. I'm the tough guy. Last one for coach guys. You keep bringing up your father's shipping

magnate history. Like, do you yourself, what's the last FedEx package that you received and what was inside of it? I'm ball all the time. Never into it. Amazon's kind of taking a big bite out of us, but we're working with them. Wow. All right, next, Mark.

That was nice. I apologize for that little mind cramp. Rocky start here. Rocky start. Yeah. It's rebound. There we go. Cardinals coach, Jonathan Gannon. Tough one. That was the one I think would be ranked 32 out of this list.

Jonathan, you're splitting your quarterback reps four ways. Well, he has to step up and make his initial comments. Hi, guys, Jonathan Gannon. I'm very excited to be here first year coach. I don't know if you have ever seen me before. You know, we've got a young roster. A lot of players here that we believe in, and we believe in developing our players

and the Arizona Cardinals are not giving up before the season starts, you know, contrary to suspicious reports. What's going on with your splitting the quarterback reps four ways at camps? There's old Bill Barsall saying, you know, if you got two quarterbacks, you got none. What do you got when you got four quarterbacks? Got his ace.

Well, hold on. We believe in competition here, number one. And first of all, I want to talk about the leadership of Colt McCoy. Our quarterback room couldn't have a better leader. But we've got this young fifth round pick, Clayton, tune that the more I see of them, the more I think that this kid could play. So it's like, why would I automatically assign our quarterback day one here? Like, we have a chance for all four of them to make some noise.

David Blow is a young hero. Have you seen Jeff Driscoll play? I mean, I think we know he can play. Are you a subscriber to the BlauHard's newsletter? I, you know, I did for years to subscribe to that. and it was an incredible read. It was typewritten. It would arrive roughly 10 or 12 days late.

But, I mean, what a great thing to go back and look at. That's one of the reasons he's here. One more for Coach, everybody. One more. You know, there are reports out there that, coach, there's a, quote, culture shock in Arizona. I'm curious, A, if you want to do any patentizing of the former coach, Cliff Kingsbury. and also if you realize you might be being set up as a patsy in Arizona for one of the worst seasons in franchise history.

I do sense that, the latter on some level. There's the headline. Yeah, like I took the job believing that the Cardinals have a strong future with me at the helm. I believe it will hopefully last more than seven or eight months. Thank you for your candor, coach. All right, here we go. okay here we go i am uh how are doing everybody it's as you know it's me uh ron rivaara coach of um the washington whatever we are now um good day at camp today guys working hard

grinding uh if we can get one percent better every day we'll be in good shape come september what do you got what is your um philosophy i i would guess centered around your utter refusal to get a functional quarterback. Whoa. Well, thanks for the question. You know, I tend to think that people seem to be overlooking the upside of Sam. How did you know? Have you heard, sir, that many people had him atop the draft board of QBs in 2022.

Did you hear that? Well, I mean, outside of the fact that. Yay or nay, sir? nay you did not hear that report 32 teams decided he was not needed to be picked in the first four rounds good point bro good point yeah sir some decorum please um i believe in sam how kind of but that's also why i have jake brisket so if sam hal is terrible i know i can slide in jake brisket and i can i'll be locked and loaded for seven wins eight wins tops pretty good stuff and then uh you know i'm probably out of here anyway let's be honest they're going to clean this whole place out. All I need to do is make sure I don't go, you know, three and 14, you know, four and 13,

five and 12. If I can avoid that, I might get another head coaching job because people will say, oh, we love Ron. Everybody loves me. Like everybody loves me. So it's like maybe I get a third bite of the apple because they say, oh, yeah,

he went to the Super Bowl with the Panthers. And oh, he was with Washington. What a joke that was. with the you know that old guy uh owner um if i could just be mediocre i could keep this this organization in that in that plane i think i can get another job somewhere else inspiring yeah thank you give me your best uh dan snider story now that he's gone you can just uh man he had this he took me out fishing once and he climbed up into the top of the um what do they call that thing the perch

he had a rifle and he was just sniping dolphins he was like wiping him out and he wasn't even collecting them it wasn't like he was using them to eat I don't know if you eat dolphins

they're a mammal or hang them up in his parlor or anything just shooting the bastards poor things so that is a harrowing memory let's get one more for on guys one more

all right I feel like I shouldn't have shared that one okay go ahead what uh what is a successful season for this commander's team i already told you sir eight and nine home run and if if hal stinks then i'll put in brisket and he'll get me those seven or eight wins are you aware and i forgot this and i'm speaking here as the reporter gregg rosenthal

i was flipping through my my phone last night and i saw a london fan of the around the NFL podcast once wore a brisket jersey to the game, which I had forgotten about. I mean, that's goddamn incredible. I watch ATN all the time. I watch it all the time. I'm just speaking from myself. I watch every show. Someone should know this.

I did a bad job there as a journal. I need to step up my game. Well, this time you're going to take on the shoes of. I am Cleveland Brown's coach Kevin Stafansky. Kevin, you've been coasting on your looks for a couple of years now. And yes, you are a mezzanine tier Clooney. I will give you that. But after the Deshaun Watson situation, you see, you understand you're under an immense amount of pressure to be a double digit win team or else, right?

Yeah, I get it. Everyone's gone this year if we don't win. You know, Deshaun, there's positives and negatives, you know. the negative all the horrible things he did the complete year of embarrassment we had to live through his play on the field maybe the worst quarterback in the league the contract i mean it's kind of a joke made us look bad and it's just an extraordinary uh amount of money that's been sent out there from these coaches. What was I getting out?

Oh, yeah, positive. No one's actually heard me speak in a year. So he's kind of taken that attention away. But I'm very aware, year four, we need to win, I would say, 10 games or else I'm gone. Peel the onion back for us, the two journalists here in the room. The whole Deshaun Watson situation, did you want him? I mean, you knew what you knew was going to be complex for you as a coach, puts a lot of pressure on you. but the nature of it, was it just foisted upon you?

Or was this something that you were all 100% in on yourself? You know, now's an awkward time to say what really happened. But no, it was ownership. I am just a peon here. And I don't know if Andrew Barry really wanted him. I don't know if I really wanted it. I'm just having to make it work like every coach has had to try to do for these Browns owners for the last 30 years.

I feel for our fans. Coach, you're a big around the NFL fan, I know. Yes, I remember Mark, my dog. My dog, Mark with the C, when he put my picture next to George Clooney's picture in a shot on NFL now or some show. It was when I was peaking. That and the whole, like I made Baker look like a real guy for a while. But did you hear the episode where. Mark Sessler said if Bill Belchick replaced you as head coach,

he might come back to the fandom. How does that strike you? I don't believe that. I mean, I believe it, but I believe if I win 10 or 11 games, Mark is going to be right there with us. He can pretend whatever he wants. Like some of those Browns fans out there,

if I deliver a winner, they'll all be back. Mark, you know anything to say to that? You got a great beard. Always admired it. What setting do you, like the beard trimmer? Like, what setting do you use? Last one for coach, guys. And three and a half on the beard, four and a half on the mustache.

I like that to be a little fuller. A little thicker. Good to know. All right. Final presser, Mark Sessler. Oh, that's it. Make you count. I want more. I mean, we could do another round.

Oh. What do you think, Eric? Should we do another round? Maybe even one more. I don't know. That's a good good translation. What is the producer says that? No, I won't like Dan doing one more.

I got the Zaddy. Ooh. Oh. Dallas Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy. Any opening comments from Zad? Great to be here. We're here in Oxnard. It's always, it's a great Cowboys tradition to travel out here to California.

We have high hopes. We have high hopes. I'm not going to shield that from anyone. Our expectations are not just the playoffs, but multiple playoff wins in a Super Bowl birth to bring Jerry Jones another beautiful Super Bowl. Super Bowl trophy. Do you worry it's all about you right now, Mike McCarthy, that it seems like a lot of the focus is on you taking the play calling,

your desire to have a little more fun as a coach. Your desire to go deep, throw the ball deep in a league where they're really kind of taking away the deep ball. It seems like it's a lot about you this week. I have nothing related to worry. I made the decisions that I made. We moved on from our last play caller because I was brought here to revolution.

this offense. You will not forget that I had that sabbatical year where I went away and took a look at the league in general. And they thought that I was becoming a predictable play caller, but I've done a lot of self-work. And I'm ready to show that to America and Europe and all the countries beyond come September. Well, that famous feature you did with Tom Pelliser, the Pell Razor, where you showed that you got a PFF ultimate subscription. Do you keep in touch with him? The Pell Razor, obviously, is one of the reasons that I got back into the league, that feature that was included both on NFL.com, and there was a video feature attached to it as well, was massive for my career. And so, yes, the Pell Razor and I will talk, we'll text here and there, a dynamic invigorating character. Let's be real, coach, your offense, although it was productive, they still got rid of the O.C. Now you're in charge. and there's a little bit of a lack of explosiveness in the playmaker department, a pass catcher. Let's see, your tight end room includes Jake Ferguson, a former fourth-round pick.

A man named Luke Schoonmaker is also high up in the depth chart. And then you look at who's the big wide receiver splash, Brandon Cooks, who looked like potentially a 30-year-old receiver. He's going to be in September in decline in his final year it was with year with Houston. did you actually sneaky not do enough and now you're banking on Brandon Cooks to be a bounceback player you're banking on Michael Galt to be healthy and effective you're gambling that the tight end position

will solve itself and then almost putting again everything on CD Lamb and Dak Press. A little thin at running back too after ball It's a fair question but the Dallas Cowboys don't self-analyze we don't self-scout we just simply We simply believe that we're going to win 13 or 14 games sometimes we don't do the work attached to that But, yeah, there's very little self-doubt.

All right, there's the headline. McCarthy, sometimes we don't do the work. Got it. What is your ideal, you know, let's say you have a Thursday night game and now a couple days off Saturday night. You're back home. What's your ideal Saturday night? I like to take the wife.

Sometimes the kids out for a large steak dinner. Maybe go see a show. Keep going. Go to a piano bar. Listen to some tunes. make some requests. I like to request the songs myself. How do you get the state?

Well, no, I'm a rare. I like some blood in there. Oh, yeah. Wife, not so much. She's going to go, she likes it well-cooked. And you give her whatever she wants. You take care of that. That's what I do.

That's what his daddy does. That's what his daddy does. Why don't you just bring back Zeke here? You don't have any running back. Well, last one for Zaddy. I mean, McCarthy. We, you know, there is a situation cooking in the middle of our country in Indianapolis.

that we're monitoring. Interesting. I like that. That's a nice dog. That's a headline. Finally broke. Well, you're not allowed to do that, though, really, right? What?

Are you commenting on a player under contract? I could be referring to anything. I think we, there's a subtext. All news is good news in Dallas. Where's my PR guy? Dare we do one more? Mark? One more?

All right, last one. You could do one more. Last one. feels like a mistake people can turn it off if they wish hey everybody it's me forever young himself Pete Carroll

chewing my gum and love and life Deb Hansis thinks I'm handsome and I feel like I have solidified myself once more in this organization so I'm good what's your secret coach I go for a walk every morning I drink the blood of the innocent

and I do crossword puzzles did you this whole Gino thing like it was fun that it actually happened do you like really Can I be honest with you? Do you really believe in it? I don't believe in it. Oh my God I was surprised as everybody was

by the amount of success that Gino had and you know but I you look at the splits and he did decline, as I expected, in the back end of the season. And that's kind of the version of Gino, I expect going forward. Now, I understand we gave him the contract. That was good PR for us and a bit of a, you know, add-a-boy and slap on the back for Gino, but I'm not expecting big things. I would say about an 85 pass rating with roughly the same amount of touchdowns as interceptions.

Are you aware that Gino, I think, finished 10th in the around the NFL quarterback power. rankings when Dan Hansis was not involved in the rankings themselves. Well, Dan Hansis does amazing work on the power rankings. But are you referring to the QBNX? Are you referring to QBNX? No, no, we did a little rankings, a little offseason rankings while Dan was on vacation. Oh, I didn't, I don't listen to those episodes. I listened to the Dan episodes.

Digging in on the Gino thing, your thoughts, let's circle back. What your thoughts on 9-11? Can you clarify? Can you clarify your 9-11 concepts? Aren't they almost all Dan-Eps? You know what I feel. You could check the record. Just, you know, Jeff Ewell.

Do some research on the physics. Stick to football guys, please. Okay. For Pete, please. Thank you. You're going to bring in Jordan Peterson as a team speaker again. I don't know if you remember that. Is that the guy that murdered his wife? No, no, no.

Okay. Anything else. Let's repeat, guys. Last one for Pete, please. Please. You're good? All right. Thanks, guys.

You had to do the last one. And now we're all going down. It's our final episode. It's been great ride. Ten seasons and one doomed off season. No, that was fun. I enjoyed it. I liked it.

Yeah. It's good. Now it got us outside of comfort zone a little bit there, but I thought, Mark, especially you, you shined. It's really only about us enjoying it. I mean, it has nothing to do with anyone else. Well, here, the listeners, let us know. Let us know.

Be honest. Oh, I'm sure you will be. All right. So that's our Wednesday. show. We'll be back Thursday. A little bit of housekeeping. I mentioned the Hard Knocks podcast that will be dropping on Friday, I believe, and then

every Tuesday, we're also, speaking of Mike McCarthy, we're going to Cowboys Camp up in Oxnard on Monday. So the Monday episode of Around the NFL will be a road show. That should be fun. Can't wait. That is about, I mean, we're checking

drive times. It's about an hour and 40 minutes from where we live. If you're in the L.A. area, and have never been up to Oxnard. No one does it like the Cowboys. They got like five different radio stations. They've got like a whole like Super Bowl radio row for freaking training camp. And they're a team from Dallas that's in Los Angeles.

There's a hundred people there. There's thousands of fans. It doesn't matter what day it is. It's wild. Why are they there again? I don't know. Who knows? It's cooler.

I look forward to it. I've never been. I've been up to Oxnard before, but never for Cowboys can. be fun in this way so it's going to be fun and hopefully we'll talk to a couple players up there maybe a coach and maybe a Zaddy

drops by probably not but that would be nice I would love to see you and Mike McCarthy encounter each other it would be good to just debrief him sure on some things that have been going on I think he like your viewpoint it's very positive towards his physical being no daddy stop it all right that's it Dan Hansa signing off

for Quiet Storm Yo boss Eric Roberts. Good job moderating, pressers. That's what you got to do. It's producer work. Heath the call. This is an I-heart podcast.