NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Countdown to Panthers-Bucs and Questions Around the NFL from the Curtain Club in London

Episode Date: October 12, 2019

A bar full of heroes- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal hang out with lucky fans at the Curtain Club in London as the NFL International Series game between the Carolina Panthers and Tampa Buccaneers draws near. The heroes preview the game in front of an energetic crowd (3:50) and then open it up to listener questions from the mailbag discussing all things football (14:40). Next the heroes unveil a brand new segment: INTERROGATION ROOM. Each hero is put under the spotlight and has to answer a series of tough questions such as how Gregg can explain the Patriots' cupcake schedule, Wess' lack of fandom for his hometown Bengals, and what Dan's favorite type of frog is (21:28). The heroes open it up to questions from the London audience (1:01:20) before hitting the bar at the Curtain Club!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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around the NFL podcast listeners around the world. So let's make sure that we show all their fans back in the US, how passionate you are about the show, make as much noise as you possibly can. Now, the show normally starts with Matt Money Smith doing an intro. money couldn't make it with us today so I'm gonna give it a go I'll see how I do the Iran the NFL podcast is buying pints for everyone in this room after the show Yay! Henry!

I specifically noted in the script that I wanted to give you a hug, but Hey everybody, what's up? To be more specific, Dan's buying drinks for everyone. Yeah. Welcome to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast. My name, very good. My name is Dan Hansus. I'm joined in a room filled with heroes.

Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal. Hey, Dan. What's up, boys? What's up, boys? What's up, boys? Hi, Diane. Wait, did you just do the West Voice? I did my impression of you guys doing an impression of me.

Spot on. How's everybody doing? That's fun. This is cool. How about that? You guys are the lucky few that got tickets within two minutes of it going on sale. Where are the women?

Right here, right here. Oh, hi. There we go. Oh, there, yeah, I see a woman there. That means we're upward. Wow, we are going through the roof. We have, whoa, we have an upwards of 11 women here. That is up roughly 99.4% from last year. Things are going well.

And the woman that's so important to our show, I know Henry mentioned her, but we're going to say it again. Ricky Hollywood! Rikki! I know, I'm not going to even ask if you have a mic because I know you have a mic, because that was the first mic you tested. Why wouldn't I? Exactly. Exactly.

So we are, is everything okay, boys? Do you want to sit down? Let's sit down. Sure. Let's do that. Now see how this is precariously set up? Just a bit concerning. I'm trying to fear I have an industrial light. machine here next to you'll find that out soon enough that's a couple segments away mark you'll find

soon enough all right so here we are in london again and it's so exciting to be here thank you to everybody that came and and what have what have been our big takeaways so far this week our second journey here to england i think we have to start with the lead story right now the protests preventing us from getting inside and outside of our whole hotel. We, uh, we managed to luck into staying in the same hotel as the governmental gas and oil conference. Good timing, good timing. The only corporation less popular than the NFL as a corporation. Uh, yes. And, oh, by the way, I should mention the bar is there and I don't have to tell you guys, your listeners of the around the NFL podcast, you can get booze throughout the show.

We won't even be offended if you get up, uh, multiple times. times but yeah not only do we are we dealing with that and the traffic that it's caused although it's a beautiful city and we're enjoying it a lot of time spent in cabs we're dealing with rickie we're dealing with the ghost situation which i'm it's it's an issue and and we did work we we there it is yeah i figured it out if you listened to a show earlier this week sounds like connor's mansion it turns out that there is a hospital that existed hundreds of years ago, and when a hospital's open in the 1,200s, and the 1,400s, and the 1,400s, it's all about just getting the ooze out, and then you die. Whatever. It cracked the skull open,

get the ooze out, and then wait. So there are ghosts, and then there are environmentalists after us. So it's been tricky. It's been tricky. It's been tough. I really like how much we've blown out the budget here for the special effects. I've found a comforting, I mean, I generally side with big oil. When it comes to the climate, I've got another 20 or 30 years to operate here on the earth. I'll be fine. You know they're listening right now. I don't get what the big issue is, to be honest.

You know they're listening right now. So we're really excited to be here, and today's show is going to be a good one. It's not, you know, usually, and Greg and I have talked about this privately. Leaving Wes and I out. Many private conversations. Usually a live podcast sucks in terms of, like, the listening experience for people. that aren't in attendance, but we're going to change all the rules today. Maybe.

Wait, then you were definitely talking about Wes and I. No, not just us, and in general. We want to give you a representative show to what we do when we typically have a podcast. So I have a whole run down here of things we're going to get to, and there's a lot of fun. But let's start, because it makes sense, with the big game coming up on Sunday. Mark, there's a new nickname, Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, Fine. Spurs Stadium, I heard that's okay, never Tottenham Stadium and never ever

Wembley Stadium, I learned, the hard way. Neil Reynolds, so I saw, yeah, he buried me over that. But what is the name that you're working with, Mark, right now? Toddy House. Toddy House. Tottie House. And it's, you know, everyone I've checked with, they've said this is official, this works.

I have another one. Let me know. The big tot. How about that? Does that do anything for anybody? No? Okay. Toddy, how's it is? Very serious crowd on this topic. We did a show there last night for Game Pass subscribers,

and it was with a huge superstar of sport that plays for Tottenham that absolutely none of us had an idea of who he is, and now I forget his name, Kyle? Eric Dyer? Eric Dyer. Did you say Kyle? Not Eric Dyer fans. He seemed like a perfectly fine bloke.

Big Eagles fan. Big Eagles fan. So, yeah, with the game coming up, Panthers against the Bucks, why don't we get going with just talking about who's going to the game on Sunday? Wow. That's exciting. That's fun. Hopefully the driving rainstorm lets up by then.

Mark, Wes, what are we looking for in this game? What are you most interested to see? Well, Christian McCaffrey is playing as well as any running back in the NFL. And getting better every week, he's putting on moves that you don't see anyone putting on linebackers It's a credit to how already he's worked but they're also going up against a Buccaneers defense to pretty much shut down the Panthers the last time they played

and a Buccaneers defense that Greg Rosenthal will be happy to tell you ranks number one in Football Outsiders run defense DVOA. Every other type of run. Hashtag nerd. I think we're the two that

like football here. I like that coaches for both teams I feel like do their best work or they sometimes like it when things are taken away. You can tell Norv Turner is having about as much fun as Norv Turner can possibly have as a human running plays for Kyle Allen and Christian McCaffrey and doing everything possible with Curtis Saniel in the running game. And so that's going to be tough, I think, for the Bucks to deal with. But Bowles is similar because they have no talent at all in their back seven.

They really don't have any pass rush. Their coach called them soft. And they are. And because of that, if you just like watching kamikaze defensive football, Todd Bowles is going to go crazy on Sunday and send six or seven guys at Kyle Allen every play. I mean, all I can think about is the edge of this chair is half an inch from causing a massive head wound to myself.

Does the show continue if one of us falls? I mean, how does that work? Should we work out the logistics? If you fall, it doesn't. If I do, I think we'll be all right. The guy over here looks like he has a great t-shirt. I think he becomes the new Mark Sessler. Perfect time.

Can you stand up, sir? I'm just curious. A room, oh. Look at that. Someone made a t-shirt with all of us on it. Some people say they want to see Christian McCaffrey Live. I get that. I mean, he's a premier athlete.

I want to see the James Winston melt factor, which can range from, you know, negative 100 to plus 100. We don't know what kind of James. James Winston we're going to get, and just the idea of seeing that with my own eyes. That excites you. With glasses on. It will be exciting. That's necessary.

I saw James Winston jerseys at the pro shop. Selling like hot things. Because nobody's bought them. It's basically where I was going. My daughter likes the bucks. It's one of her favorite teams. And I thought about getting her a James Winston jersey. And it just feels like a mixed message in 2019 to buy it.

Yeah. That's one where you put it on a hold. And it's been many, many. years now, James Winston? Let's keep it on a hold at this point. Maybe Mike Evans is the way to go on this. This seems like it's going to be a close game because it was a close game last time and Kyle Allen for as excited as we got, him and Danny Dimes both came out of the gate in that week at the same time and blew the doors off. He could probably stand to have a better game this week and I don't imagine it's going to happen. I think that he could struggle

against Todd Bowles the revitalized Todd Bowles and the Bucs defense. I love this narrative. I mean, Todd, he just came and he said, it's a new day. I'm putting everything behind me. Let's pick this game. It's a phony narrative. Yeah, it's a little bit funny.

They give up 30 points every game. The narrative is essentially we all watched Bucks Panthers 1 together in the back of Chris's house, which is a beautiful place. 20-something days ago. And I, you know, we were getting a little bit loose that night.

You were yelling Todd Bulls, Bulls at the top of your lungs every three minutes. And since then I'm on board. Greg's love of football knows no bounds because there's no one else in the world that was screaming Todd Bulls at the top of their lungs on that night.

So let's pick it. Mark, you first. I'm going to go 22 to 20 Panthers in overtime Mario Addison's safety of James Winston. Ouch. Panthers 34, Bucks 3, James throws three pick sixes.

Three. Dang. Why you got to be like that, Wes? Wes always wish casting against James Winston. You can always count on it. He gets his wish often. What do you got? What do you got? Oh, yeah. I have

I, you know what? I'm going to counteract Wes's negativity and say James Winston has the greatest game of his pro career. Five touchdown passes. Nary an interception and the bucks roll 35 to 21. Just want to point out that Panthers fans call it

positivity. All right. And finally, Greg Rosenthal. I look at the right side of the Bucks offensive line, and in general, their injury situation, that they have. You know, they're missing a couple guys.

They got a broken leg at right guard, I believe. They're missing their right tackle. But to me, there's only one doctor and only one prescription that can solve this case. It's Dr. Rainmaker. If you think it's raining right now in London, wait until the dollar

Bill's raining all over. Howdy Totts Stadium on Sunday when the bucks drop a hammer and cover against the Panther? Dance for us. Here comes the rain again. Katie was supposed to thank you to the lovely Katie. Katie.

You guys would have loved because we kind of do have what would be called production meetings, pre-production meetings. You would have loved to know how hard it was for us to convince Greg to bring back the rainmaker. It was like trying to talk Tom York into playing creep again. She was like, oh, no, no, it ran its course.

I don't connect with that anymore. And we were like, play the hits. I had to make deals involving future children. All right, so there you go. That is the preview of the game at Toddy House. Or as you would call it. Or the big tot. Either way.

You just, whatever you choose. All right. Ricky, how are you doing over there? Doing good. That was a terrible dancing by Greg, but... I mean, it was non-dancing. I thought Katie was going to do a little singing in the rain. Oh, you're putting it on Katie.

Yeah, Blame Katie. Oh, Greg. Greg, we have 11 female listeners now. Greg loves a crowd that booze. I do. And you fuel me. It gives me fire. It's not just all men that look exactly the same anymore, Greg.

Anyway, Ricky, what's going on over there? We got anything cooking? Hey, our sound guy's name is Simba. How cool is that? Awesome. He's a bad guy. I mean, that's, I'm doing great. I don't know what you guys are doing up there, but I'm hanging out.

I think you were going to give us like a note about the sound, but you just want to tell him his name. No, you guys sound like dumb as always. Thank you, Ricky. So you've totally detached from the production eight or nine minutes in. Well, as you can see, I just sent Katie up there to dance with an umbrella, so I'm clearly involved here. Well, we have a mailbag segment to hit, right? Yeah, we do. I got some people who put it in. Okay, great. I was trying to tee it up, but I had to be pretty direct eventually, with it?

Oh, are we doing that right now? All right. I mean, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but are you? You don't have to try, Dan. Okay. So, love you. All right, so you guys, I tweeted out on a secret burner account that only has the most diehard of ATN fans. Oh, damn.

Don't follow it. then you're not that cool, but it's cool that you're here, so I'll just read a couple of these, okay? At ATN fanboy, you guys all make fun of Draft Day, but name a better football movie. It's Remember the Titans hands down. Interesting.

Blindside, okay. Blindside's a terrible option. Oh, no. It's like sentimental garbage. Who was, help me out. Who was the real-life? player. Michael Orr. Okay, Michael Orr, when the Ravens and Niners played in the Super Bowl, you know, five or so years ago,

he got hit with an atomic wave. Because at the Super Bowl, these guys have to go through the media availability over and over and over again. And imagine being Michael Orr, where 90% of the people covering the game know nothing about football, so he's going to be asked about the blind side over and over. By the last media availability, anyone that even asked him about Blindside got the death stare. And I'll always remember

that. As for the movie, I shamefully have not seen it. Sandra Bullock vehicles really since Love Potion number nine have gotten away from it. I've seen it. I wouldn't call it the best football movie ever. Sorry person way back there. This does feel like a good time to check back in with you

Mark. Now, draft days come out. Yeah. Seven years ago almost now. And at the time you called it, of course, famously, full of heart from start to finish. Now, has that stood the test of time? You know, I learned something, a very valuable human lesson. That is, when you are, probably for the only time in your life,

asked for a movie review of a real film, don't, while at your parents' house on a vacation in April off of three glasses of wine, submit your review. It will come back to haunt you. And I don't even remember Draft Day at this point. It's like, it was fine. The thing that really jumps out to me about draft day, and the question, all we want

to talk about is draft day, it's the only move we ever to talk about. Yeah, I know, is that Jennifer Gardner, and again we have many female listeners now, but Jennifer Gardner played a capologist in the film, and I thought, like, it didn't really play to me, she didn't seem to be available in that way, but...

If you're a completist, and we will move on, but there is an NFL.com column somewhere on the internet that features Dan and I going back and forth, and I think it would unmask some of Dan's views as well that need a little bit more exposure to the... My general view was it's fine.

All right. B-9. At Seahawks, guys... Oh, we have another one. Yeah, we got a couple here, so let's move along here, boys. At Seahawks Guy, sick, and nice, says... Hey, hey, Dan, if you had to coach the Jets and could only make

one trade move or higher, what would you do? Jets up. Ha-ha. That guy's a dick. If I can make one move, I would probably get Bill Belichick back.

That counts, right? We lost him once, and it was a convoluted trade. The jet guy, he gets it. What do you think? Belichick, that would be the... Get somebody that could change the culture. Good luck with your new franchise player,

Antonio Brown. There is no... There is no sadder clap. There's no... No sadder clap in all of sports, then the Jets fan, clapping, wishing that Bill Belichick would come back to them. Yeah, the question said, Dan, if you had to coach the Jets, so you'd fire yourself after... Well, yeah. No, well, it'd be kind of fun to be the coach.

Well, hold on. You'd go down as the one-day coach of the Jets that turn the team around. It would be memorable to be named the Jets coach and then announced that I was firing myself to acquire Bill Belichick. Total hero. I feel like I would go a good pop with the fan base. That's a good idea. Okay. At Baker Mayfield is my dad.

Mark, I'd give up my entire family and extended family if it meant the Browns would win a Super Bowl, except my Aunt Bertha. She's the best. Would you give up the ATN podcast and all you've built together for the win? Uh-oh. Wow.

You know what? I'll tell you what. Sports is vicarious. They can handle their own business. I'm not leaving this crew. I love this sentimental mark we've had the last couple of days. It was his birthday yesterday. I mean, I think he's...

Happy birthday, Sizzler! Ragingly old at this point. Wes, do we believe that answer? Yes. All right. All right. At Jason Cross, Wes, you're annoying AF and super confrontational. And your take about security lanyards

Almost made me drive a cliff My car off a cliff with anger But you know more about football than anyone So what makes you so obsessed with the Cowboys Am I missing something? Good question Obsession is strong Okay

I just look at their team And they clearly have the strongest roster in the NFL So I enjoy watching them Strongest, wow It's almost weird how these Twitter questions are like giving voice to some of Erica's big frustrations. It is awkward. And that she's saving me for last.

Let's see what's next. This one just popped up. At Eliza Mooney. I don't know who that is. Sounds real. Greg's voice is so annoying. I stopped listening to the podcast six years ago. I did too.

I cannot listen to our podcast primarily because of my voice. Yeah, that was it, boy. All right, thank you very much, Ricky. Thanks, Ricky. Not even in the form of a question, just the statement. All right, now it's time for a new seg called Interrogation Room, where I take a hero

and I put him under the spotlight. Scary. First up, Greg Rosenthal. Follow me, son. Dan sounds serious. I don't. I don't like new things. How you doing, Greg?

I'm doing, I have been doing great. This is a little worrisome. Sweating. The spotlight is enormous. For the podcast, people listening, it's very dark. Now I get it. Really went all out. Greg

You like football I do You like your favorite team don't you I do New England Patriots 6 and 0 huh That's pretty good They've played better

But yeah It's been an easy schedule It's funny It's funny to bring that up Because there are some of us that don't root for the New England Patriots It's that sometimes find it odd the way things tend to work out with a Patriots. Suspicious.

And I would call attention to the schedule so far this season. Let's go through it. Would you mind? Please. Greg. Home to the Steelers, who pee down their leg at the thought of going to Foxborough, let alone on Sunday night football to open the season. That seems convenient.

Convenient, you forgot how you said that would be such a great game right before it happened. Shut up, Greg. At the Dolphins, possibly the worst team in NFL history. Week 2, nice way to get off to a nice start. Let's hear it for Henry Hodgson again. Home against the Jets, who in the previous week lost their quarterback to... The Kissing Disease. And the backup quarterback to an unnecessarily.

violent hit from Miles Garrett and Quite Necessary. Nice time to catch the Jets, eh? I mean most times are a nice time to catch the Jets, but yes, it was good. You're a funny guy, aren't you, Greg? You make the people laugh, that makes you feel good, right? The Bill's on the Road. It's fine, it's fine, good job. At Redskins,

Zombie J. Gruden, a day from being fired out of a cannon. Out of a cannon. Your reports aren't true about how they didn't practice. I don't know what you're talking about. Finally, just last night. And who stayed up to watch the Thursday night football game? What do you guys do?

Do you watch it live or do you watch it the next day or do you not watch it? I would say about 20% of the crowd stayed up. That is... You are very... That's highly commendable. Home to the Giants on a short week in prime time

against Danny Dimes and a collection of Red Cross volunteers at wide receiver. Titan and running back! Greg! I mean, they had the greatest Patriot killer of their lifetime on the sideline, and they didn't use them. That is their fault.

So finally, before I let you go, Greg, Does that seem suspicious at all that that's the way the schedule for the defending Super Bowl champion was historically easy for almost half the season now? Well, Dan, we've gone through this, I would say, three times a year ever since we started the podcast. So how the schedule works is the divisions rotate. So the AFC East plays the NFC East this year. It's all determined ahead of time. The Jets have the same schedule. Oh, do they, Greg?

Because I haven't been playing that schedule. Anyway, and you're going to tell me the schedule, quote, unquote, tightens up. But what the schedule makers bestowed upon you in week seven, 17. Oh, a home date against the Miami Dolphins just in case any loose ends needed tidying. Joke! It's a little fishy. Get out of the chair, Greg. Get out of the interrogation show.

That is... By the way, I had an absolutely total confidence that Greg could handle an interrogation chair because Greg Rosenthal is probably the man that would be least phased by anything in the world. Right? Like, how would you ever phase Greg? It's almost impossible. I would welcome an interrogation. It feels like it'd be like a fun way to feel a little more alive, you know? Yeah, it's a little creepy, Greg, but I get what you're saying. There was a question put to us before the show. something about Greg freaking out at a concert.

And it was impossible to imagine Greg freaking out in front of anyone. No, yeah, it is very hard. All right. Now, next up, one of our favorite segments, one we like to call, everyone take a guess. All right, what's more likely? And since we have an audience of thousands, listeners to the podcast, nay, we are at Nebworth right now, 125,000 trunk.

When I say it, when I say it, when I say, it. You guys, give it all. Give it all you got. Now it's time for another game of What's More Likely! Beautiful. We love you guys so much. Mark, get us going. Well, actually, it's going to be Wes, Dan, according to our schedule. Mark is not involved with an initial question on this segment.

Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. All right. Wes is up. In a game we like to call What's More Likely. Chris? All right. I'm going to need your head. help at the end here. The Browns or Jets overtake the Patriots

in the AFC before Tom Brady retires or Mark wins his sandwich prop that Trent Richardson plays another snap in the NFL. What's More Likely!

Greg. I've never heard a What's More Likely involving a sandwich prop. This is like next level stuff here. I'm working on a few levels, Greg. All right. Tom Brady, so it's just they have to finish ahead of them in one season. Just one season the Jets or Browns finish ahead of them.

They have to make it further into the season than the Patriots before Tom Brady retired. Well, I'm always, you know, voicing the optimistic tone to these Jets and Browns fans that on a long enough timeline you will win, not just be better than the Patriots. I've been saying that for six years. Sure, but I'm saying more like a 20 to 30 year, you know,

timeline. So that's probably how long Tom Brady will be playing. I don't think Trent's coming back. That's more likely. Mark. I watched Tom Brady for the first half last night before fading into a deep sleep that had me convinced he does not play after this season. Ooh. I take.

You guys could not have seen the excitement on Dan and Mark's face when they saw each other this morning and have their, oh, Tom Brady's old conversation. No, no. After a game where he had 300 yards and three touchdown. You can't get Greg riled up. He started coming at me with next-gen stats and all this other business and Brandon Bolden in their 18th, you know, 5-foot-9 white receiver that had 35 yards in the second half. That's good or Al-Shefsky to you. I'm going Browns or Jets topping the Brady phenomenon before Trent Richardson.

I don't think Trent, I think Trent Richardson is like in a studio somewhere doing oil painting. I don't think he has anything to do with football at this point. So Jets are Browns. All right. You're not going to answer? Well, my hope is obviously Jets are Browns, and Trent Richardson, he's off the radar now.

You used to get Roto World updates. Wasn't he leading the AAAF in touchdown? He was leading in touchdowns, but he was averaging like negative 7.3 yards per carry. So I don't think that's going to transfer well over to the highest level of American football in the universe. So I'm going to say, he's gone. All right. Up next.

I got one for you. Is Greg Rosenthal. two scenarios here for you so now I realize they say it after we talk Kyle Shanahan returns to the Super Bowl this year and avenges all the wrongs that occurred in Super Bowl 51

when he was the coordinator of the Falcons or Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson returned to the Super Bowl and avenge all the wrong that happened to them in Super Bowl 49. What's more likely?

I cannot think of a team that I believe in more right now than the Seattle Seahawks. This is an NFC West room here. I don't know who I catering towards or not catering towards. The Seahawks to me, they are the team that not enough people are talking about. I understand that Russell Wilson's

getting the MVP buzz. There's no one in the league they couldn't beat. would love to see them go back, play the Patriots again, and get down to that final drive and change that history the way that other teams have had a chance when they go back a second time. I'm going to go to Seattle, too, and I will say that there are two teams in our years covering the NFL that absolutely deserve an opportunity at revenge, and it's the Atlanta Falcons after 283.

Any Falcons fans? Oh, you... They're all dead at this point. The last guy ended it, four days. ago. Sadly, the window is closed for the Falcons. Maybe it gets reopened at the end of Matt Ryan's Prime, so they're out. The Seahawks are the other team, and I would love to see that again, because I think that is a ghost that haunts obviously Wilson, Pete Carroll, and I just think it would be a great game. I think that would be an amazing super... I never want to see

the Patriots in the Super Bowl again, but if it's going to happen again, give me Seahawks rematch. I am just realizing that my wife, who I'm consistently losing points with, is a Niners fan and had to watch that Ravens Niners game in person, so I'll deal with that when I return home. And she listens to every show. Sweet Simone. Hi, Simone, we love you. Such a tough question, I've changed

my mind about ten times since you asked it. I love the 49ers roster and their way they're playing. It's got to be the 49ers. But I trust the quarterback for Seattle more, and I trust the experience that the quarterback head coach combo, and if you

throw Bobby Wagner and K.J. Wright in there. Some guys on defense. Experience counts for so much in the playoffs for the NFL. I trust Seattle more, even though I think Sam Fran has the better roster. Well, Greg just asked the question so you can answer it. So go ahead, buddy. It's rare that we ask it, and all three get it wrong. That 49ers gentleman knows the answer.

Go ahead. Tell us why. Oh, I mean that was enough. I think they're just more talented. I don't think the numbers that say, they are the best team in the league are that fluky to me. The defensive line is amazing. The running game is amazing. How do you feel about the way the quarterback's been playing?

He's fine. Jimmy G is... It's not what you told me yesterday. Jimmy G. Jimmy G is kind of the sticking point that you worry will be a problem getting deep into a playoff run. But we've seen some surprising quarterbacks win the Super Bowl or make it to the Super Bowl.

And I really think the coaching advantage and just the pure talent level is there. All right Good answer A lot of 49ers fans All right Good Seg guys Good Seg thanks to your help

All right It's time to go back to the interrogation room With Christopher Wesleying What is that Those were jeers It was like kind of for jokes and giggles When I was there But this is for real

Take a seat, Chris It was unrequited. Hey, Chris. Hi, Dan. You put a high value on family, West. I said, I hope so. I've got a big one. Come from the west side of Cincinnati, correct? Oh, I do indeed.

Tell me a little bit about, tell the, audience. A little bit about the dossier. About the Bengals failing me? Well... The dossier, the paperwork, Christopher. I compiled a case against

the Cincinnati Bengals in the 1990s. The way most fans should, when the ownership acts worse, than any ownership in the history of pro sports. So I have a dossier where I underline

highlighted and annotated all of the things that my owner wronged me, all the ways he wronged me in my city beyond the Bengals into conning a city into building a stadium to fill his pockets.

And that was the formal paperwork you filed to leave the team as a fan. I did. It made me feel better. West thought this was going to be about Joe Flacco by the way. Not a lie. Not a joke, not a lie. He wrote out notes preparing for it to be Joe Flack. My piece scale was 10.

I'm very confident. And one, Joe Flacco is going to be the topic. So anyway, you quit the Bengals, and we respect your decision there. It doesn't matter. But in reality, Chris, despite the fact that you say you're, what was it, football agnostic? I believe that was an agent if you guys put on me. I think it was more that I was a free agent. Isn't it true that you've been a Patriots fan for the last two decades?

Really? Chris Wesleyan. Carrying the water. All right, stop throwing things, guys. Stop throwing things, please. I respect smart football teams who play interesting games. So, yes, I've been a fan of the way they built their roster and play football. You carried that water, didn't you, Chris?

Up and down the hill. Until something happened. Until Greg's decision to sign Antonio Brown. Greg and Belichick went to a hauled out volcano in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and hatched a plan to bring evil into their locker room. Erica was there, too.

Erica was against it from the start. So, you're out on the Patriots now? They're dead. All right? So, here's the question. If you are now a free agent in a way, could you really tell me, Mr. Family Man? That the Bengals could never capture your heart again?

Not under that ownership. Interesting. Thank you. Oh, one last thing, Chris. What is this, Dan? One more thing, Mr. Wessling. Who knows what I was going to ask him about? What are you looking at right now on the screen behind you? It's a multi-color map of the United States of America.

Mark Sessler, this map has been distributed by the U.S. Census Bureau. Do you want to tell the audience a little bit about what they do? I will give you my definition. Go ahead. They basically go state by state, region by region, very different. defined regions counting population from village to town to city to state to get that that helps allocate where money goes and it's very important to know if more money should be giving for instance to the Great Lakes region or the southwest or the southeast so the

great lakes region also known as the Midwest nice little grouping Wes is from it he's from Ohio right here from people that obviously not from the United States below it you see this TN, that means Tennessee, clearly labeled southeast, West. Who are you to play God and say that you get to take Tennessee to the Midwest? It's getting ugly now. Well, you see, I wish I loved anything in life as much as you guys love lines drawn on a map for political reasons. That's it up. Come on, get out of the Ter West. Me and Chief Seattle, we see things more like climate and topography and lands that were here hundreds of thousands of years ago

and if you look in that northeast corner where football started in America it's pretty close to Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Nashville, Indianapolis, St. Louis, the Midwest. And how come no one from Nashville agrees with you, Wes West? Sorry, sorry.

Is out of the interrogation chair? You're out of the interrogation chair, sir. Thank you, Wes. Thank you. West, by the way, not into lines on a map. Has, like, in his drafts folder on Twitter, which I looked at. Oh, wait. Breaking news.

You're lucky. That didn't count. Breaking news. This just came out. The Denver Broncos signed fullback Andy Jonovic to a three-year $5.7 million deal. Johno. A lot of fans. Mark, your in-depth breakdown of his abilities.

Huge signing for the Broncos. I mean, this is someone, it's been a very milk-toast, stale, unwatchable offense for the most part. Where the quarterback, who I'm not convinced, wants to be there, this signing changes that. Anybody got something else to add? I think he handled the bit well. All right.

When you've got a blocker like that, you've got to keep Flacco upright. It's a good signing. What's going on, Ricky, in the mailbag? Got anything else? Yeah. Let me look here. At Dan's hair really sucks.

Okay. Also, clever, these Twitter handles. I'm okay. I know. I've tried to pick the best ones I could, too, that you should have seen the ones that I can't read. It's crazy. Dan, I mean, this is for Greg, sorry. Okay. Greg. Really knocking this one out of the park there, Ricky, huh?

She's a real performer, folks. She is. She is going to walk out of the room if you don't shut up. Greg, you have like 10 different favorite teams. Can you just pick one or what? The Patriots are my favorite team, but like Wes. Oh, wait, they just tweeted again, then act like it. Oh.

Saucy. This week, they're your favorite again? What about the Eagles? They're the only one that stops my heart that makes me go up. and down, but it is more enjoyable, and I tell my kids this, and maybe they're going to not learn how to be a normal person. If you're watching a sporting event, pick one of the two teams to root for. It makes it more fun.

There is no such thing as sports without rooting for one of the two teams. Greg, your daughter is becoming a Bucks fan. I would start to go to work on this. Abort. I also told them, when you score, let everyone know it, which I thought was a funny thing to say. when they were four or five and now seeing them acted out as children

is horrifying. Yeah, that's fair. And what do you mean about that? I don't know. Celebrate. Like, celebrate, enjoy it. Let the opponent know who scored. You scored.

All right, one more real quick. All right. At official Lakeisha Wessling asks, Wes, what's wrong with your hair? You just defended her, Wes. This is a true story. I lived on an island. And the only barber on the island moved to the next island.

And instead of driving over there, I just decided I would start shaving my head. And it never grew back after. And he looks damn good. Yeah, he does. Thank you, Dan. That is a cancer survivor who looks better than all of us. Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you. Well, show them your ass. It's incredible. Right, Lakeisha? It's a great heinie. It's also one of 7,000 stories Wes has that begins with, I used to live on an island. Dan, you definitely do not believe that you are not the best-looking guy of the four of us.

Who do you think is, Mark? Who do I think it is? Yeah, who's the best-looking? It fluctuates from season to season, but Greg with the beard right now, it's been a real. He's rising up the board. Swarthy in a sexy way. just choked on his water. It's so mad. Anybody but Greg.

All right. Let's move on. Sandwich prop time. Now, we do sandwich props, as listeners know, before the season starts, before a free agency. But we're just going to do one here, one each, and last time we did this in a live setting at London,

Mark hit the prop of all props at my expense, which I've really never forgiven him for, when he predicted that Baker Mayfield would enter for the first first time as a rookie against the Jets, and I'm going to act like, it's not burned into my mind, but it is, and wipe away a two-score deficit, lead the Browns to a comeback win, and essentially end the Jets season. That was pretty good.

I hate you for it, but you really did it. You hit a home run. Well, the crystal ball did not see what has happened over the past month plus, which has been a psychological disaster. Well, that's fair. So let's go through some quick sandwich props. that we will, they can check out by the end of the season. And I'll get this one going, all right?

And this one, a classic old Zooser forum, it just shows an ability to take chances, to take risks, to be a hero. Is this the Drew Breeze will be in the MVP race? I will, well, I mean, he got hurt. I will accurately predict 10 out of 12 playoff teams right now. Right now! All right, here they are. I'll take you up on it.

Yes. It's an onion hanger. Patriots Ravens Texans Texans Chiefs That was tough

One Chiefs guy in the house It's going to get harder Trust me Bills Colts That's the AFC Now it gets tough Cowboys

Packers Always Packers spins Saints Very nice. Very nice. Sir? See that man out. He's dangerous.

Seahawks. Eagles. And this was tough. Rams. And the notable snubs just to help you guys out. This man's very upset. Chargers in the AFC. Lions, Bears, Vikings, and yes, the undefeated 49ers.

Take me up on it. 10 out of 12. Yes. I felt more confident before I saw all those names. I think you've chosen well. And I think, especially in the AFC, there's not going to be a lot of surprise teams. I like Patriots, Ravens, Texans, Chief Spills pretty strongly. But I will take you up on principle because I know, and Dr. Rainmaker knows, taking the field is always a smart bet.

That's true. Well, Greg always comes by logic, but I lean towards Mark's side. that the agent of chaos is going to make an appearance and injuries are going to make these teams way different than they are now, I think that clearly there will be three different teams in it. The Bears fan was so upset, I think, I just realized, because they didn't even make your snubs.

That's how down you are on Mitchell Tribus. Sir, that was an oversight, I apologize. Are we all out of the Bears for good here? No, no, that was an oversight, and I will, since you called it out in my notes, I will add them right now. What about you, Mark Sessler? Well, I know that you and I,

we like to go at each other like a pair of like toxic unicorns sometimes it's a bit of a yeah Liam and Noel scenario yeah times I'm gonna tell you something you just crafted

a beautiful sandwich prop right there oh thank you I'm gonna take you up but I think you might have nailed it too I'm gonna take you up because that's the only way that I ever win these that's how you play the game

but well done all right thank you buddy I just want to say briefly what a joy it is to do a podcast with Mark and earlier today I saw written down on the back of a note card the words toxic unicorns it just came into my mind

what is going to happen with toxic unicorns and now I know it's amazing if I don't write these things down that's how it works it's not always how it works this is like the Wizard of Oz when they pulled back the curtain I'm not sure I wanted Greg to share that nugget

I thought it was delightful I had no idea that's how it works baby Greg you're up we're in the podcast business and business is booming Mine is simple. There's been a lot of talk about Cam Newton and Nick Fawls not getting their jobs back.

I will put a sandwich on that Nick Foles and Cam Newton will both be starting for their teams and to make it a little more interesting, I'll make it specific, and say, week 15. They'll both be starting exactly in week 15, or buy week they will be starting in week 15 if just coming back seemed a little too easy so Nick Foles will get his job back and he'll keep it through week 15 and Cam Newton will get his job back and keep it and stay healthy through week 15 I like it it's a good question I'm going to

take you because I don't think Cam Newton's getting his job back this year actually I don't think Nick Fools is getting his job back either it's been a lot of that I'll take you up because I don't know where are you factoring injuries into this that's that's the risk Okay, well, outside of an injury, no one is pulling Gardner Minchew out of that lineup. He continues to play the way he has. The team finally has their fan base totally riled up for all the right reasons. And I like Nick Foles a lot, but that is how you turn the volume down on that situation. That's a fireball offense.

It should be noted that the same Jaguars fan base believed in Blake Bordles once upon a time. Not this way. Like 18 months ago. Not this way. I'm picking on that that's a long time away and he's a rookie quarterback and they might not be doing too well by the middle of December.

It's already burned me for one sandwich. The right play is to take you up on it, but I think both those guys get the jobs back. There's a lot of money involved, and I'm not writing off either guy, and I'm not totally sold on either of the guys playing in front of them right now. So, no, I will not take you up.

Chris Wessel. Short and sweet, the Baltimore Ravens will not win the A.S. FC North. I'll take you up on that. I think the Browns are the clear threat. I know you believe the Steelers have a chance, and it's not the craziest thing in the world.

But I think the Ravens are an organization that will figure out what's wrong defensively as the season goes on, and I think they have enough offensively to be better than anyone else in the division. I'll take you no analysis attached. Well, I have the Ravens winning the division, so I got you on it.

So let's roll. Mark, finally you. All right, so this has been something that's been on my mind. I'm glad we're doing another round of sandwich props because I wish I had figured this out beforehand. Between now and Super Bowl 54, at least one NFL player will miss a game or more due to a run-in with an animal. Why we save him for last? To be clear, this could range from a simple house pet

to a beast of the field to an agitated wing creature. To be fair to you, because this is probably the most probable, I'm eliminating insects. Real living animal. Insects don't count? Don't count. What's a beast of the field, exactly? Like a deer, an angry deer or something. But I'll give you a few examples.

Just it could be, for instance, not limited to this, so don't call, it could be one of these. A surprise dog bite that triggers rickets. Bad stuff with a jellyfish. falling off a horse near the townhouse a player is purchased for his not talked about 22-year-old sidepiece a possessed bird pecking at a player or perhaps an NFL player

being smothered by a vaguely psychotic gang of beefy squirrels grown thick off processed foods left in an abandoned flop house on the edge of town something like this and we may not get the full story right away but it will be clear that a player has missed a game because of a run-in with an animal. Take it or leave it.

After last year, I can't take you. Your abilities to look into the future, I just can't take it. I think you're on to something, and it probably involves a bear in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. I'm worried about the deer's situation. In the Midwest. The deer's... Now, Gatlinburg's more towards the south.

I know I won't actually get a physical sandwich, but we do keep score on go get my lunch, so I will take you up on that just for that purpose. Oh, I'm definitely taking him up on that. Oh, yeah. All right, for the last time we head back to the interrogation room. Mark Sessler, take a seat. Hello, friend.

Hey, Dan. You know, he just came up. You boy, Gardner Minshu, the second. Okay. You like him, don't you? I like him a lot. You really like him. Almost like him more than my own team's quarterback right now.

Tell us why you like Gardner Minchew, beyond the facial hair and all that. Tell us why. I think he is the kind of person that makes an NFL. NFL season that even by week six could have some tedious issues, much more exciting. By the way, look at where the edge of that table is. Let me ask you a question. He is quite fun. You know, is there a reality where maybe you rather have a gardener mince you over, ya boy,

Baker Mayfield? Just let me go on. Tell us the truth. Mark. Baker Mayfield has never been a natural fit as a here. a hero for you, hasn't it? His swagger, his arrogance, his chronic need for attention. All of these things have always made your blood boil.

They've made your blood boil as both an NFL fan, as a reporter, as a person. Not as a reporter. These are clearly your issues with Baker Mayfield, and I'm stunned that you're projecting. What if I told you, Garden Minchu could be a brown? What if I told you that the sixth round pick from nowhere are you who rose up as a savior of the people, a man of the people, a humble warrior who worked

hard, earned an opportunity, made the most of it, all by staying true, all while staying true to who he was, sounds like a lot like someone I know. You know what? I'm looking at him. His name is Mark Anthony Sessler. Anthony, I see right through you. You would love to be Gardner, Minshu. I would love to be him. Yes. So admit you'd rather have Gardner Minchew, not Baker Mayfield, the guy that is the antithesis of everything you like about pro sports. Not bending on this because someone's going to tweet out some section of this video and I'm going to have Baker Mayfield on me if this gets out. Let me tell you something right now.

Let me tell you something. I would not trade Minshu for Baker Mayfield. I would trade a low-level defensive player. Line Minchew and Baker-Mayfield up in the same backfield. You're running Wildcat. running two quarterback offense. You don't know what's going to happen. That's the wave of the future.

Fair enough, Mark. That's called innovation. Fair enough. Permission to cross-examine the witness. I've always wanted to say that. I don't know if this is a courtroom, but it sounds fun, so come on. Good cop, bad cop.

Uncomfortable. By the way, this is what it was actually like when Greg was our boss. That's goddamn right. Greg's the same size standing up as Mark is sitting down. Mark, how many meals have you eaten today? Mark, how many meals have you eaten this week? Next question.

Mark, do you like food? This is a separate topic. Have you ever eaten food? Have you ever thought that your lack of, of food is maybe contributing to your annoyance with football teams and football players and humanity? I rest my

case. You're out of the chair. Well, hold on. This is such a Greg thing. Go ahead. I have never in my life, you know, when you travel with someone, you get to know him real well. Greg like, you know, he has some robotic qualities. He eats

three meals a day at the exact same time every single day and goes to the gym at the exact Like, someone's booing square meals? Seems like a weird thing to get fired up about it. I want Zusser in that chair. Oh, all right. Get in the chair.

Whatever. We're just freestyle. Please. What? This was not scripted. Is? your favorite type of frog the American bullfrog is my favorite type of frog

good answer all right thank you all right we're getting close to the end here and by the way we're going to have a Q&A so if you have something you want to ask us you will have an opportunity in a few minutes but it's been such a fun, exciting evening so far. This feels like Mark, a good time to maybe calm things down a little bit

and get everybody in maybe a different headspace. Into a unified space, I think. Okay, Mark, take it away with one of your world-famous meditations. And I want everyone close your eyes to follow along. Now it's time to take... A deep breath in, and as you breathe out, simply close your eyes. As you begin to take flight to that timeless space within, where you find yourself in a garden by the sea, you are alone, but you don't feel alone because toward you, silence.

Along the garden path comes a hot pink Volkswagen Jeddah. It stops before you. The back door opens, without even thinking about it, you climb in. And the driver, she turns around and you recognize her face. It is Queen Elizabeth the second. 2.0. Mark's in my dreams right now.

Smiling at you and nodding to the seat beside you where a plump orange kitten sits nestled in a ball. You pet the kitty. Its fur is soft and warm. The little kitty purrs and climbs into your lap, looking up into your eyes. with a big yawn. Come closer, says the kitty cat.

Come smell my breath. Gross, you think, to yourself. But for some reason, you draw closer to the kitty cat's cute little orange face. How does it smell? The cat asks. My kitty breath, does it smell appealing? Queen Elizabeth begins to cackle hysterically and punches the game. ass. And everything goes yellow and white as you awaken to find Wes and Greg wearing

nothing but overalls and spreading fancy feast chicken and tuna-flavored wet cat food all over your body with big wooden spoons. Meditation totally over. Mark Sessler. They call him the quiet storm. I was raised without any religion, and when Mark takes us on these, I go with him. And I think it's the closest I've come to God. Thank you for taking that chance, Greg. When I think about all the ways the podcast can one day end, one of them could be Mark starting a cult and wearing red Nikes with like a thousand other people on a commune,

and being the leader that they follow into the spaceship. That's Wes. In my mind. All right. Before we wrap things up, how about a little Q&A from you guys? Got a mic over here for you guys. Yeah, thank you again for everybody coming

and, yes, ask away. And the bar is open. Oh, they know. I know our listeners. Keisha, can I get a drink? Who are you picking? Oh, I have to pick somebody? I mean, I'm not going to do it.

Greg's going to do. Lamar Jackson right there. Number eight. Hi, guys. Hi. So the shadowy league figures have given you the power. For one season, you can choose a set of divisions, northeast, south-west, one for each of you. Don't start upsetting West here.

But you can swap a team in the AFC and the NFC. Who do you switch and want? This feels like a Greg question. It's a great one. It hurts my brain. I've got one for you. You know, I always thought it jarring when the Seahawks that I grew up with were in. the AFC and a very different type of team than they are today

went to the NFC. It just like I was young enough where I was like what's happening here. This is destabilizing. I like to put them back into the AFC and see what happens. I do like the Patriots take a dirt nap, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes fighting for the AFC West

with Tom Brady using a walker. I like that. I know fans of tradition in the AFC East wouldn't like this but I've always thought it'd be cool to have a northeast division. Get the Dolphins out of there and bring in the giants both New York teams, Buffalo and New England, have at it.

That's a terrible idea. All right, who's next? This gentleman right here. I can't move that fast. Sorry. Hey, dog. Longtime listener, first time I'm caller. Good friend of mine couldn't make it tonight

and he asked, told me to ask his question. Your pain raking's that you did, he calls bullshit on it. And he says... Not mad enough to be here to tell me that, apparently. Hey! His decision. He says the Jets should be nowhere near number two.

So how do you defend that and do the rest of the guys agree with you? I'll take my answer off the air. Thank you. Yes, thank you for the question. Yeah, I just think of being a Jets fan, the number one thing that really annoys me is when somebody says to anyone that's under the age of 60, well, you have Joe Namie. He had Super Bowl 3.

No, nobody that I know in my life other than my father had Joe Namath at Super Bowl 3. And all my life, all I've known is heartache and suffering. And also the worst type of suffering, which is embarrassing suffering. Things like people like butt fumbles, like stuff like that, mono, like things like that don't happen to other teams. They happen to the Jets. They invent ways to break your heart. And this season has been a perfect example. So you have to be a sucker for punishment.

I think they've earned their spot. People can say, well, they have a Super Bowl. I just disagree with that fundamentally because once you hit 50 years, half a century, there's a whole generation of people that know nothing but misery. Here's another angle. When you work for NFL.com and you go to a higher up and suggest

the idea of pain rankings, and they say yes, you control how that operates. And Dan did a nice job with that. Thank you, Mark. Who's next? Dan, I'm currently dealing with the Little Sea. So, Wes, how do you think Dan coped with the Little Sea? And how is he still here today? Relevant.

For those who may not know, the Little Sea is the common cold. I call it the double C. Wes had the Big C cancer, which, ugh, yeah. I mean, way to battle. But the Little C is the one that doesn't get the respect. And especially when you're a podcast host can be debilitating. Well, I would say the difference between Dan's experience in mind was that he had more sniffles. That's fair.

And Dan talked about his more. I mean, that's the thing about the Little C and Dan is you hear a lot about it. It is quite amazing. It is, yeah, an indictment of myself that you've heard more about my cold than West talked about his cancer. Ricky, I want you to pick people. It's too hard for me to pick. You want me to do it? Yes.

Okay. Thank you. Well, I got a shout out. Got a female here in an ATN shirt. That is badass. Betty! I'm going to come over here. I never understand what the hell you're saying, so this will be funny.

Before I ask my question, I think we should sing Happy Birthday to Mark. Oh, great call. All right, on three. One, two, three. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Mark.

Happy birthday to you. Thank you, thank you. And many more. By the way, in the middle of that joyful interpretation, Erica leaned to my ear and said, sing into the fucking mic. Mark, did you ever imagine in any world as you turn, turn, I won't say what you're turning

because I want to remain your friend that a room full of men and a few women that you don't know would be singing to you in London. In London? Well you know while your children are half a world way. I lived in Surrey for a little bit if you didn't know Greg.

It's not that surprising. We just connect that way. By the way, common cold references to Mark reminding people that he grew up in Surrey pretty close. Pretty close. All right, who else? Oh, did you ask your question?

Oh, no. That feels kind of like your chance. Kind of questioning. Yeah. Because it was kind of like, can we sing happy birthday tomorrow? We granted you your ultimate wish, and now we must move on, sir. You're kind of like the guy who, when Dan put up tickets for the show,

responded to die. But got the date wrong. That poor guy. And unfortunately, we told him he got it. Weren't we going to do something nice for him? I got to eat the poop on that because... He got banged. He got banged because I was careless, so I want to give him a shout out right now because he was cool about it.

His name is Joel Dowson. He's a great listener. And I also want to shout out who won. Jim, that'd be weird if you weren't. Jay! Way to go. Good to have you here. Congratulations.

He got the trivia answer to get the tickets. I just want to tell you that the 20 to 25 minutes where that was unfolding in real time where Dan had to through a series of DMs tell one person, and the next person yes was super enjoyable. It was amazing. It was the back of the cab. We were in a cab and Dan was like, this is the worst possible way that this could possibly happen. This is what

I was trying to avoid. All I could think was my wonderful mother back home in the States. Her thing that she said to me, no good deed goes unpunished. All right. Go ahead. Ask your question. Go for it. First of all, Greg, it's about me. Okay.

Good job with that. Second of all the question is what's more likely Dan releases the unreleased episodes of the throwback podcast of Greg releases the tapes Ooh

What are the tapes again West? Do you recall? Greg was the front man for an emo prog rock band called Delaware in the mid-90s when Greg at like not emo or not Prague rock. And you guys don't know this about Greg when he was like 15 years old he had

these huge trap muscles. He looked like this intimidating athlete. He was on top of the world. I met a lot of people in college that when they met me, they said, you look so much bigger in the freshman look book, which is not even a thing that exists anymore. Greg did this weird thing where he started doing steroids in high school and then only worked out his traps.

Like a really questionable decision. I also had a badass, you know, parted down the middle black hair dye. It was like a punk rock style. But, no, and it is true because we, laid it out, we want to hear you as the lead singer of Delaware, and we put it out there that it would be a major charity donation would be made

if you ever released them. Are you going to play them today for the audience? Well, I've got a surprise for all of you. Welcome the founding members of Delaware! Please. All right, we got another question over here. It's not going to happen. Hey Japs.

A two-parter. Where is Wes's toaster right now? And is there an appliance that could bring the game back. It's funny, because when we were trying to figure out the trivia question for the tickets, that one came up.

Where is Wes's toaster? It physically sits in my bottom desk drawer at work where it states since Damashik beat Greg to win the toaster, and Dave never came to collect it. So it still sits there with some Reggie Wayne quote on it for some reason. It's so surprising he didn't come fetch it

because you can make a piece of toast with all 32 insignias burnt onto it. Or just the cult. And a common question we get is what happened to win West's toast or the game and people seem to think

that Greg killed the bit because Greg likes to kill things that we love. But in truth, Wes lost the desire, the drive. And I'm hoping one day it comes back and we could return

to some great challenges on the show. But that's up to Chris, basically. If you make it to your 50th birthday, and we're still doing this podcast. Look, if Rainmaker can come back, the toaster can come back. Ooh, I like it.

All right, we'll take a few more, Ricky. Dan, to your left. Here I am. Here I am. Thank you. So my question is more of an NFL based question rather than you. Your jokes, rightly. This guy's all business.

All business. All serious. No jokes. All of the talk about Jalen Ramsey getting traded from the Jags, potentially. Why is there no talk of Josh Norman getting traded from the tanking Redskins? Because Josh Norman's not good at football.

I mean, he's struggling. I think, I actually put together a trade candidate's list and put him on it. And if anyone would just take his contract, I think they would happily give him away. I could see it happening. Greg, that is your reader. Now, you know what?

And I talked about... Come on, that was the best one of the night. I'm with you, Mark. I've talked, Jalen Ramsey. I've been upset about Jalen Ramsey the way he's handled this situation. And I would imagine, you know, Antonio Brown, the best wide receiver in the league arguably.

Yeah. Really? What? What the fuck is going on? He's out of football because he was a jerk. And Jalen Ramsey, who certainly hasn't done anything close to what Brown did or what Brown's dealing with.

But I would just wonder, Jalen Ramsey, is he a guy who's trying to get paid? aid and trying to... Do you want to give a Jalen Ramsey a massive contract seeing the way he's handling the end of his career in Jacksonville? I don't know. Well, do you believe people

change? Yes, people change, but that's a big risk to hope he does. All right, a couple more. Here we go. This one's for Mark. How many wins do Adam Gase's Cleveland Browns get next season? Oh, my God. Wow.

Rare question about me and Mark that Mike when you were done with it. It's funny because it's true. Uh-oh. We got a standing room only question back here. I don't even get to answer that? Yeah, nobody cares. Guys, so we obviously want a team in London.

So my question is this. If you were going to annoy one fan base in the U.S. by stealing their team and taking it to London, which fan base would you piss off? The Jags. The Jags seem like the easy answer. They don't have much history. their owner clearly wants to do it.

If they lose enough, I think he would enjoy that. I could think of a team that could learn a lesson through a move. Your little Baltimore Ravens send them. And I send them on the new train, not the chunnel thing, but you just send them under the Atlantic Ocean. Let's see if they even arrive in England. I mean, that's fair, and I love it. But you do forget, or people forget, in 1984,

the Baltic City of Baltimore lost the Colts a manfare moving truck 18 wheelers showed up in the middle of the night and they emptied out the team facility and moved to Indianapolis it does not excuse what happened with Cleveland that was a disgrace but how about we don't move any team

and find a way to make it work with an expansion team or even add two teams to keep everything average none of this ripping the hearts out of fan bases like we saw in San Diego why do the chargers need to stay in Los Angeles the charges do not need to stay in Los Angeles I'm sorry. They can come to London. Nobody wants them here either, but

here we got another one back here, way in the back. You see me? You see me? I do see you. You got it? Yes. You good? You're glowing. Oh, thank you. Here we go. Hello, heroes. You've had guests on the pod, obviously. Just wondered if anyone right

now, or historic, who you would love to have on the pod, just to ask any particular question, your sort of top guest through the history of the league? I mean outside of having Ricky on for like a full episode just to dig into the wonderment Lil Debbie, we've had her Wes, how about... You're saying anyone

not like the best guest we've ever had because that would definitely not be Greg Hardy 2014 episode 212 Wes, how about, I'll throw it out there because we were talking about them recently Brett Fav Yes, Brett Farr would be great

I think the thing is though that you'd have to guarantee they would be interesting because it's a podcast you're not going to be seeing them you're only going to be hearing them and i'm sorry but athletes tend not to be that interesting i would probably pick henry it is we love henry hotchin vice president of international he told me he actually threatened me when i got off the plane every time you address my name you add vice president of international NFL media and he's handsome as well Well, Neil Reynolds is not the friend of the show, we love him.

Last question, last question. All right, all right. Ricky loves, she's drunk with power right now. Look at her. You got half of that, right? This question for Dan. Yes. What do you think will be worse?

Supporting a team that is trying really hard to be dreadful and is dreadful, like the Miami Dolphins. Or supporting a team that actually is trying to be good, But is dreadful, like the New York Chats. The shoe drops. Screw you, good sir. It sucks, it's terrible, and I hope things get better now that our quarterback, Sam Darnold, is back in the lineup. I'm really looking forward to the game. All right.

Everybody, it's been an incredible honor to be here with you guys. We said it last year, we've said it on the podcast, but we'll say it again, that of all the incredible things that have come to us through the time, podcast. The thing that has shocked us the most and has been the most rewarding has been you guys, the overseas audience that took us in, vouched

for us, pumped us up, and we're not here if it's not for you guys. So we love you so much and your support. They're fine. They're fine. And Greg, because he has the Vanity Project with Jezelnik, he is making a lot of money. So Mark

he'll be handling the tab at the bar from now until midnight. Either Greg or Jeslnick will cover it, one or the other. Actually, no, you have to pay for it, but the bar is open until midnight. You can chill here. We'll be around if you want to talk, take pictures, do whatever you want.

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