NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Deshaun Watson Named Starter, Boutte Traded, Jeanty Update and More Camp Buzz

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue react to Deshaun Watson being named the starter for the Browns, give you an update on Ashton Jeanty's health, react live to the Patriots trading Kayshon Boutte being traded by the Patriots to the Texans and more! NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Get new episode to the NFL Report Monday through Friday all season long. Listen to the NFL Report podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're really getting tired of the Browns letting us down. Rosenthal. I'm in my garage with Jordan Roderig. This is a last minute campas episode going live because we have to talk about some follow-ups to our long show Sunday night. Deshaun Watson has been named the starting quarterback of the Browns. Jordan, we're going to get to you in a sec. But let's just start with the sound. The press conferences on Monday morning after we learned Deshaun Watson was going to be the Brown's quarterback Todd Monkin and Deshaun Watson both spoke.

We will get to Ashen Genti news. We will get to a lot of interesting injury news, players returning from injuries as well around training camp. But we have to start in Cleveland, and we'll get you out of here in about 30 minutes or so. Let's hear first from Todd Monkin in how he made the decision. DeShone is going to start against Jacksonville. Took in the full body of work over the course of offseason

to training camp to the games, the joint practice. And ultimately felt like to start the season on the road, Deshaun gave us the best chance to move the ball and score points. I mean, that's really what it's about. And felt that way going in the last game, but wasn't sure. And after we talked as a staff and after we re-looked at everything, we're going to go that direction. Spoke on Sunday night that I thought I didn't have any trust in the Browns to do the right thing,

which I think for their football team in this case would have been to start Shador Sanders and to just end the Deshawn Watson era in Cleveland. I was curious how Munkin and Watson would both respond to the fans' reaction. Let's hear from Munkin in terms of whether that was a factor in his decision, the big booze that they gave to Deshaun Watson after his rough performance over the weekend. I don't like being booed either. I don't like when we jump off sides three time at the end of the game. Okay.

But we earn that, right? We earn our respect by how we play. We earn our fans, right, in terms of appreciation of the product we put on the field. And that's our job. So on one side, I 100% understand where Deshaun is coming from. But ultimately, we're pros. I mean, we got to put on a good product. And we got to play.

You got to pull your big boy pants up and let's go play. I was actually surprised by the media reaction after everything that they just couldn't play Deshaun Watson again that they just thought it's going to be Shudur Sanders. It made me hope that the fans could actually have a say here. Ultimately, they didn't. I thought it was telling Jordan that Monkin mentioned in his first bit there that starting the season on the road mattered to him. Just curious for your thoughts of like what they are thinking here and what you are thinking. Yeah. Well, I, Greg, you know, I love football so much. And it brings me a lot of joy. and this entire years-long saga at this point,

it makes you feel really cynical as just a person who loves what the sport can do and what it can do for fans. And, you know, there's a lot of layers to it. Obviously, we've covered all of this at length, but you have no choice but to really feel cynical watching not only all of this unfold, but expecting it this, as I did,

expecting this to happen this way the entire time, I think that one thing that certain NFL teams will remind us again and again and again is that they truly believe that they can make you forget everything that they previously had done, good, bad, or indifferent as long as at some point they're winning football games. And so this mileage of misery that has been happening that's been played out so long here in Cleveland over the last several years, The Browns are clearly setting themselves up or trying to to get a top quarterback next or this off season. They're clearly operating with the belief and expectation that they have a plan and silly you for thinking that you could be disgruntled along the way.

They're going to do what they want anyway and what they believe they are smarter than everyone else in doing. and they're also going to really, really hope and depend on what they believe clearly to be a truth, and that is that people will forget everything and forgive everything if eventually they're winning football games. I don't know that this organization will, but that's clearly what they're telling you right now. And Todd Monkin's even saying that he says it in his press conference, we earn our respect with how we play. Okay, well, that says a lot of things to me right there. It does, and yet I agree. When Deshawn Watson was booed and he said, you know, it was personal, on some level, yes, because of all the misery that he's brought in them and the embarrassment, I mean, the contract was an embarrassment when it happened and they knew that.

They were in the crosshairs immediately. And I think the front office totally misunderstood the human element throughout. number one of how Deshaun Watson would handle being so vilified of how long the NFL would suspend him after he was credibly accused of sexual assault by 27 women and settled with the vast majority of them. And yet I actually think the up out, you know, pouring of Deshaun Watson news and hatred over the weekend was more about, A, his performance. He was truly awful in that game. and he has not looked like a remotely good quarterback for years, and he's coming off two torn Achilles. Like he's just slow to process, slow to everything.

If he was playing well, I think they would forget about it. But number two, I think people were just mad about how he handled the press conference. That was it, that he had, you know, the temerity to still be so clueless and tone deaf about getting mad at the fans and that if he could play football, they would cheer. You know what? They're probably right. And I know he was saying starting on the road was a factor in this and it wasn't the biggest factor. And I don't, I'm going to give him the benefit of that. I don't think he meant that he's afraid of the fans just booing him.

He says they didn't talk about that at all. He thinks it's because he can run an operation better than Shadur Sanders, getting the plays out, you know, pre-snap penalties. All that is more difficult on the road. And that's the biggest difference between Watson and Shadur. And I believe him in that evaluation. but it's not going to be easy at home either when they're booing the crap out of them. And I hate to think that they're so cynical, Jordan,

that they think, well, we'll give him two games on the road. They aren't easy, Jacksonville and Tampa. And if he's bad in those two games, I have to think that they're already thinking in the back of my mind. It's Shadurr Sanders by week three. Like, my over-under for Shadurr-Sanders playing football for this team is halftime of week three.

Like, I don't even know if he gets the halftime. It could be before that. I just fail to see, first of all, how are you running your, I don't know the answer to this question, by the way. This is a, I would like to know the answer to this. How are you running your approach to the, to the development, the quarterback development, to where you're not confident enough in a player who did start home and road games for you last season to operate on the road, that you still need to see more from one of those players and that you might, I think, that honestly them doing this now because I feel so cynical about this and I again I expected

them to do this the entire time the second they guaranteed Deshaun Watson all of that money you this was this was their fate that they sealed themselves and so I expected this to happen the second he was actually like physically capable to play like some version of football again this is what I expected because you obviously can't cut him with the debt. I mean, you could do anything you want, honestly, truly. You could do anything you want. But in terms of realistically operating a football team, the dead money incurred would just be too exorbitant to even like feel the roster, right? So I always believe that this was going to be the case. And to me, it's like, what would even be the point of even doing this if you're not going to roll with him the full year? You heard the fans.

you heard the fans you know that that's not changing the play is probably not getting any better and you want an early pick next year and you don't want to have to spend all of these resources you just acquired to go get it so you're going in with this to me they are

this is all of this it's almost like the easiest simplest answer and the obvious truth is it just is what it is and yet if he plays at the level in regular season football and the mental firing doesn't get faster than it's been in the preseason or even when he last played before the Achilles.

I think they'll have no choice but to make a change. It is really crazy that this front office got so much love this offseason for a good off season, and yet they are willing to put their fans through this. Deshawn Watson did not apologize for his press conference the other day. I have watched headlines that say, Deshaun Watson apologized. At no point in the press conference, just like when he talked about the allegations against him,

did he actually apologize? What he said was, I'm human and the emotions got the best of me. Let's listen to a little more of what Watson said. Moving forward, I just want to focus on football, making sure that, you know, I'm putting the best product out there, having the best ability, you know, because I thrive off the energy. I thrive off the energy of the fans. I thrive off the energy of the community.

I thrive off all that stuff. You know, I think looking back in my history at Clemson and, you know, previous set, the Houston organization. You know, I was a big community guy, big city guy, big fan guy, you know, during the game. So, you know, again, my emotions got the best to me. I'm human. I'll take full responsibility of that. I picked that particular part of his two and a half minute long intro because I think it speaks to something we talked about a little bit on Sunday night. you forget that

Deshawn Watson was not just like a beloved figure in college and with Houston that actually being a good guy was central to his entire identity and his entire reputation in the NFL. And that's where I think the Browns

also miscalculated things. He does not play with confidence. He does not speak with confidence. He does not speak honestly. Even in this press conference, he said, I came to Cleveland was to, you know, you know, put them on the map and win a lot of games. And I wanted to, you know, the fans to be proud of me. And it's like, no, the reason you came

to Cleveland is because they guaranteed all your money. You wanted to go to Atlanta. You chose to go to Cleveland at the very last second after they were literally the one team out of the four that wanted you that you eliminated in the process because you didn't want to play in Cleveland. Like the whole thing has been a lie throughout. But one thing I think that he is hinting at there, which I do think is true, is that his fall from grace and the fan's hatred of him is all interconnected into why I have no hope that this is going to work and why it hasn't worked.

Like, I do think it affects the product on the field. Yeah, I do, I, you mentioned it in the show you did with Nick Shook. Great show, by the way. It was like, you said you didn't want to be like an armchair psychologist about it. But it's almost like it's like on a billboard at this point, you know, of like it can't be anything other than that.

He even sounded nervous talking there at the, at the lectern to me and seemed sort of fidgety. Like he just wasn't quite sure of himself there, even at the at the lectern. And, you know, you asked the question, did he even sound like he wanted this job? He didn't.

That was the part where I think, he lost like the football players. That's where he lost the Dan Orlovskys and everything when he started to sound like, this is too much for me. I don't even want to do this anymore. Yeah. And so I just think,

and again, just to be a little bit clearer, because I sort of stumbled over my point earlier, if you don't have a development program where you feel confident that a player with truly more upside than Deshaun Watson in Shadur Sanders right now has more, in my opinion, more upside.

if you don't believe that you're getting him prepared enough to run a road operation, like that this is the alternative here? Yeah. What are we doing? Yeah. It's a bummer. And I think this team is more talented

than many of the Browns teams over certainly, like a decade ago when they were really among the worst. But even in terms of young talent, then the last few years, and they've mismanaged the quarterback situation so bad because ultimately, shoulder, when you're, watched that tape wasn't that good this week, and he takes a long time to process. He is a mid-round

pick level second-year quarterback to me, where I think if he has a good career, it'll be as a backup and a sometime starter, and you shouldn't see what you have in him. They drafted a quarterback they preferred over him two rounds before Dylan Gabriel, who wasn't even in the mix here. So as an organization, Andrew Berry has to wear all the decisions that they've made even since Deshawn Watson. Let's move on, and let's get to the rest of the league. We had a, a nice update here, Jordan. When we talked to Ashton Genti on our Sunday night show, the Raiders are praying and everything looks terrible.

And it's part of the reason why I wanted to do just a quick news show today is because we have a positive Ashton Genti update and that it's an ankle injury. The timeline right now is uncertain. But the team, according to Ian Rappaport, does not believe it is a long-term injury. What a relief, too, because all the reports that were coming out in the moment, were dire, right? Like I'm genuinely legitimately worried about Ashton Janty's well-being at that point when these things happen.

And I mean, it's a relief. And I think, too, I'm really excited. I hope that he plays, gets back out there sooner rather than later. These can be fickle injuries. But especially from what I saw when I was doing part of my training camp tour, what I saw the Raiders joint practices against the Texans, getting him involved. in the passing game and getting him much more involved in the passing game and the screen game and all of these things getting him to space catching and running like I'm so excited to see it so I'm happy for him that he avoided what sounds like something way that could have been or looked at least like it was way more serious right there's all sorts of different types of ankle injuries jermy love is coming off a high ankle sprain that that could keep him out for the beginning of the season we don't have all the details yet I did some poking around I don't I don't think it's crossed off yet that Gentie misses week but we don't know.

It's these types of injuries, and I think the timeline will be spelled out more. The bigger thing is they need to figure out how to run the ball consistently. It's an offensive line where they're still figuring out who the starters are going to be, Jackson Powers and Johnson, like still not sharing reps and everything.

It's a new system, but I like Mike Washington, and I like the fact that Gentile will be back early enough. If you're like me and you're drafting your fantasy league tonight, well, just, you know, I would just avoid the whole thing or take Mike Washington at some point. We have breaking news on this show that I don't know if you even know if you've checked your texts there. And our producer, Eric Roberts, is so on top of things. I don't know if he's going to have a graphic if you're watching us on YouTube.

Look at that. Sound. Breaking news. The Houston Texans are making the trade that everyone, including myself, but I was hardly the only one, was saying they should make. Kishon Booty going from New England to the. Patriots. Tom Pelliserro is the first insider that we see with the news. It is for safety. Jalen Reed, not believed to be a big factor for the Patriots this year. And a draft pick, sources tell Tom Pelliserow now of the ringer and Netflix. I love it when teams make a trade that just

make sense, Jordan. This makes the Texans better. And the fact that it says, and a draft pick, I guess it depends where he's getting the information from. So I won't speculate too much, but that tends to make me think it's a day three draft pick. Either way, what do you think about the fit and the trade, Kishan Booty to the Texans? Well, perhaps, or maybe there's some conditions to it. The fact that there's a player attached to it too makes me kind of think you're on the right track there. I love this. I mean, it's just, it was the obvious thing we had heard since training camp began, not only that Kashan Bouti was playing really, really well, but that also he might be tradable, especially with A.J. Brown's arrival in New England. And so the two front

offices know each other really, really well. There's a lot of crossover on that Texan staff from former eras of the Patriots. And it just, I love this for C.J. Stroud. I think this makes so much sense in this offense, which is sort of like an amalgamation of New England's previous iterations of its schemes and what the Rams did at one point. So it makes so much sense. This is a, you are going to come in and start for us right away. Good for Kishon Booty too, because he'll get to, he'll get more, he'll get a lot of looks. And he'll get more money potentially in free agency if he's productive. And he would have been in good spots with the Patriots, but to Mario Douglas was their clear three.

You know, by the money, it's obvious that AJ Brown and Romeo Dobbs are one and two. And so you're the fourth receiver and you're going to be worked in. Whereas in Houston, for fans who aren't on top of this, news every day, Jaden Higgins is it was a second year player, is a second year player that is out for the entire season with the torn ACL. Has some similarity size-wise. I think they're different players in terms of Kayshon Bouty is just more of like a downfield ball winner, contested catch guy, vertical.

threat despite not being like the biggest burner. That's just how he wins. But on some level, they're both physical receivers and he can replace part of what Jaden Higgins was going to do in this offense. And Tankdale still hasn't practiced fully. Jalen Newell was a guy they took in the middle rounds last year that was up and down as a rookie.

He hasn't been practicing all camp, although he did recently return. So that's a good sign for him. And after that, it's role player types that have been kicking around their roster for a while. guys that make a lot more sense as wide receiver four or wide receiver five. I think Keishon Booty is not going to get a long-term extension from Houston, but he's going to have a really good chance to have an excellent season

and make a lot of money in free agency, or who knows? Maybe the Texans decide like he is a fit with us long-term. Nico Collins is relatively affordable for a wide-receiver one. Maybe we can get a relatively affordable, like wide receiver 2-3 and Booty ends up signing their long-term. But I don't think that's going to happen right away. Updated terms. It's nice to see these guys working sort of together again,

but I know there are different companies now, but Ian Rappaport is saying it's a 2028 seventh rounder. So definitely a later pick. But like I mentioned, a player being involved in that too does make a difference there. Also, I do want to point out, I love seeing this for Tom. They've already got him the breaking news graphics.

Oh, wow. They're slick looking. I have to say. So good for everybody, you know, getting that news done. Thank you. And frankly, good for us that we timed this show for the news to happen right away, which is why I'm literally tweeting it back out just to let people know. We're hitting the, hitting the booty trade right now.

As Eric Roberts, our producer says, everything is coming up, Greg. You got to love that. He's a newsman. Booty is massive for their, uh, thief. I like how you can hear me cracking up in the background of that drop. That's so funny. Oh, my God. I know I'm a homer,

but we did our all underrated team last year, me and Ali Connolly on one of our Saturday shows. And we both had Keishon Booty last year. I thought it was a really good. Like, if you just look at the stats, it's not that crazy. But man, he had a ton of big plays.

Like he was like maybe the most reliable overall receiver for them and really valuable. And it just goes to show, teams are always, almost always full of it when they said, well, we're not trying to trade them. We're not calling around. We're, you know, we're going to keep them unless we get great value.

They got no value. They just decided it's a roster crunch. We have a lot of receivers we like. We're just going to take anything for him because it's essentially nothing and good for him, but not good for the Patriots ultimately. Can you just not like minimize that they sent another player? I understand what you're saying, Greg, but sometimes you say things.

And it's like another human being is also involved in this trade. So like, let's not, you know, it's just, it's just sometimes just the way you say things, Greg. It's not what you say. Let's, I get that a lot. Let's circle back. We'll see. Maybe Jalen Reed will have a big impact on the Texan. Maybe he'll make the team.

I don't know if he's even if he's a guy that would make the team or not. I'm not prepared for that right now. Let's move on to the rest of the news before we get out of there. But that is great. I know we are both high on the Texans this year. We're going to have our big Super Bowl preview episode before this season. I think it's fair to say they are in the mix of teams we might be predicting to make it there. And this was one of the things.

Jalen Reed also, just to be clear, Jalen Reed's going to the Patriots, not the Texans. So is it? This is what happens with live. Well, you're doing a lot of things at once. And sometimes I just let you roll right through. But yes, this. Don't let me roll through. if I'm getting things wrong.

But yes, to me, it makes sense because I think the Patriots were a little concerned about their safety depth. So, you know, it's fine. Our guy Mike Brable said it. We might as well transition to that. Like, they have no depth.

We are not confident in the depth of this team. They do not have depth at cornerback. They do not have depth at safety. They do not have, I guess they have depth on the edge which is just not good. And then on the offensive line. Good point. And if you, there's a lot of good defensive backs that maybe couldn't make the,

the Texans. Jalen Reed is a sixth round pick from a year ago that did make it through a year with the Texans and is a second year player from Penn State. We might as well hit our Patriots news here that Mike Brable was on local radio today. And I just thought it was interesting. One of those quotes I just wanted to point out when they asked him if him talking about the lack of depth with a shot at the front office essentially. And he said, we are the front.

office. We are making the decisions. And I love that. And I think it helps people understand Mike Rable's place in the Patriots. You know what I really would have loved. And if you were on that program, particularly, Greg, I just know this is what you would have asked next. Who is we? Can you be specific? Hmm. Great question. And I think the answer is a combination of Mike Rable. And then his guy he brought from Tennessee, whose name escapes me right now. Ryan Cowden. Ryan Cowden.

Those are the two key ones. And then the rest of the front office, which includes Elliot Wolf, who kind of has the front-facing job. But if I had to guess, I think it's number three in that order. But to me, I am interested in how front offices work. And I've long believed that Mike Vrable is not that far in terms of structure from what Bill Belichick was back in the day. Like the clear number, like Andy Reid even is now.

The clear number one, he's making really important personnel decisions. has a lot of help, but we are the front office and we includes Mike Rable. All right, let's give some positive Patriots news. Kristen Gonzalez, back at practice, practicing fully, not hurt. He was not holding in because he is back now that he is healthy again. And we still haven't seen that contract happen despite Devin Witherspoon getting paid. Let's hit the Jed York news. The 49ers owner Jed York was arrested over the weekend. This is according to the Associated Press in Ohio and pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct and possessing criminal tools. York was arrested Sunday. It was an East Palestine, Ohio, and released after posting a

$5,000 bond. He was sentenced to one day in jail for both offenses to be served concurrently and credited with one day served when he pleaded no contest. That was on Monday morning. That's when the news came out. He was also fined $1,150. NFL spokesman, Brian McCarthy, already has a quote on it and says, we are aware of the matter, which will be reviewed under the personal conduct policy. So like a lot of arrests, we kind of leave it there and we wait to see like what the NFL is going to do in this situation. Back to the field, I thought it was interesting, Jordan, on Monday, a couple items happened. The Steelers activate Jalen Ramsey from PUP list. Good news. hasn't been practicing.

And he immediately says, the Steelers got to pay it my guy, Joey Porter, Jr. Just like, make it happen. Like, we got to get him back on the field. Pay Joey Porter Jr. Despite the fact that the Steelers had been saying all along, oh, Joey Porter Jr. has an injury. It's not a hold.

Later that morning, Mike McCarthy also says the quiet part out loud and recognizes that they are at a contract impasse with Joey Porter Jr. So just sort of straightening things out. a player they really need. I wouldn't panic about it, but he's probably waiting to see what's happening with Christian Gonzalez,

and they want him back on the field. Yeah, it's probably all going to work out fine. But one thing about Jalen Ramsey is the second he is back to doing press conferences, he makes the Steelers more interesting. So I'm excited about this. And on the Joy Porter Jr. contract, I don't see any reason to believe

that they don't get something like that done. He's clearly a part of their young core for whatever happens after this season. he is not necessarily like the exact same fit in the defense they want to run now. And so I do wonder, they have so much invested in their defense. I agree, of course they want to sign them. They're negotiating with them. Yeah.

But it could be something that the price is a difficult one to reach with them because it's a new system they want to see them in. And they're the most expensive defense in the league by far. And they're going to continue to be. And they just paid Keanu Benton, they kind of prioritize. So it could be a tricky one just for a guy that I think's been like a little up and down and it's a new coach, new system.

Just. Well, but I think that I think that doesn't give Patrick Graham enough credit for what he can do with players, with new defensive coordinator. Yeah, it's technically a new scheme. But Patrick Graham, we've talked about it on this show, he doesn't necessarily adhere to any like set. He's very, like he can mold things very, very well. he can shape his playbook and his schemes,

probably as good as anybody we have right now coaching, especially on that side of the ball, and hasn't had a chance to show it, hope he gets a chance to show it with Joey Porter Jr. And he's always, it's a very, very, very tired cliche where it's like we're going to do what's best for our players and we're going to put our players in position to be successful.

Patrick Graham's actually, coach who actually lives that. And so I don't really, that's less of a concern to me, the scheme stuff than it is. you need to have at least some sort of a contingency plan after the bubble breaks on this entire roster. And I think on the offensive side, you've seen them do it with a couple of younger players.

And on defense, they're going to want to have, like, quote unquote, I always say this weight-bearing walls anyway. So to me, I do think it really is just waiting to see what's up with Christian Gonzalez, honestly. That could be it.

And they've done a good job this off-season. They signed Nick Herberg. I think that contract's going to age really well. they signed Keanu Benton. I think he could have a breakout year, a good young player. We'll see if they get Porter Jr. who's great in man coverage,

but there's only so much man coverage. If you play man well, you can play match zone well, just saying. Of course. Final nuggets today as we get out of here on a Monday. The Eagles have Mackay Lemonback at practice.

I'm just including these as little nuggets. Finally, that's the first time they've had their first three receivers all practicing in like a month. So that is really great to see. I do think this is the time of year like,

okay, it's go, time players get back to practice if you want to get ready for week one. So I mentioned Christian Gonzalez. Puka Nakua and Miles Garrett are still out. It's been a couple weeks now. They did not return to practice on Monday. That's growing concern.

I'm not nothing panic about, but yeah, I'm sure they would like to have them back on the field. The Saints watched a kicker battle between our favorite Irishman, Charlie Smith, and Tanner Brown. And unfortunately, the reports are from our friends, the Saints block party that Smith has been struggling in practice and the preseason wasn't great. I think proved to be true because they watched that battle and then they choose neither. They signed Daniel Carlson and the expectation is now Daniel Carlson is just going to be their

kicker. But we will see. There also was a trade. They traded for Zamir White. They traded Dion Jones for Zamir White. That was to the 49ers. I think both of those guys are probably long shots to make their respective rosters. So don't need to linger on that one too much.

And then disappointing on Sunday night, Bud Clark, as we were taping broke his ankle. He was a second round pick for the Seahawks. So just like a little less depth there. We didn't have you for the preseason show. You did a great job. Broadcasting, the Rams. You're up there with Brenda Song. I don't know if you had any like super hot takeaway.

The stash is loose. Yeah, there we go. As we get going here from preseason week too or your experience or anything. Yeah. I mean, it's been so much fun. Also, she is so nice. I just have to say, I know I sound like a total fan. girl and that's okay. Um, she is so, so, so, so nice. Um, and she was having a blast. It was really

fun to see somebody who normally has people kind of all around her, you know, being a fan of her, watching her truly like be a football fan. Like it was just like really, it was a really joyful experience. Um, hot takes, not really. Uh, I liked how you guys broke down the Stets and Bennett stuff. He's just a gamer, you know, like he just, it takes a minute. And then once he starts feeling it and just sort of cuts it loose. Like, you know, he could play ball. I mean, I don't know why they would, I don't know why they would trade him, honestly. Like, he's, he really, I, they, people are forgetting, I guess, that they gave him that

off year to kind of help regather himself into being a pro player. And like, they've invested a lot of, of energy into it. So, I mean, I don't know. That's just my opinion, though. But, and then I saw the Bud Clark thing last night, and I was sad to see that because I think, like many people, I was really, really excited to see what Mike McDonald and company could help, you know, help him reach his potential, which I think is pretty high. So, tough, tough scene to see that. Yeah.

Also, thank you to James for this nice comment. Yes. One of our comments are saying, Brenda Song and Jordan Perfect, let's make a three women booth with Mina Kine. That would be the dream crew. man would people be mad we love it no people would love it look we're we're getting into regular season mode it is all happening thank you for everyone checking out today's show we're still got news coming in

DK Metcalf also on the field for the Steelers good to see he's been out for a couple weeks we will update the news as they go during the week but we changed around the schedule let's hit that music Eric let's do our NFC North preview tomorrow Jordan this is it for today we just dropped a two-hour show. I couldn't stop honking on Sunday night. So we don't need to drop two shows today. We will do our NFC North preview.

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