NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Devante Parker Traded; Cuál Es Tu Fantasía: El Regreso
Episode Date: April 4, 2022A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Colleen Wolfe bring you all the latest news around the league. The Patriots traded for Devante Parker, Xavien Howard received a new contra...ct, Frank Gore is retiring with the Niners, Colin Kaepernick worked out during Michigan's spring game, and the Browns are expected to trade Baker Mayfield before the draft. Plus, the long-awaited return of “Cuál Es Tu Fantasía?”NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Around the NFL podcast has lived long enough to see themselves become the villains.
That hit close.
from the Chris Wesleying podcast studio.
It's around the NFL.
I'm Dan Hansis.
I'm joined by a hero, long-time friend Mark Sessler.
How you doing, bud?
Are we villains now?
Not villains, but we were just talking about right before we started
how listening to some older clips from the show,
there was an innocence
and now with experience
comes a different feeling
so I guess I somehow equated that
in my head to heroes and villains
did we sell out to the man
over time? I don't know
maybe that's part of today's show
is trying to fight that
my paycheck tells me that I've sold out
to nobody
but I will say that like maybe
you know if you want to spin it positively
we have more wisdom
and with that comes more cynicism
we were callow youth back then
Calo I'd like to go back to that place though
Because I was listening to some of those clips and we seen...
Salad days?
Yes, salad days.
Wait a second.
What's this?
Is that...
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
There's Colleen Wolfe's music.
There's a wolf.
Turn it up my headphones.
There's a wolf.
There's a wolf.
Can't blow your house down.
There's a wolf.
There's a wolf.
There's a wolf.
Can't blow your house down.
Don't mess with her.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do you stupid
Don't mess with
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do you stupid.
By the way, we're all sell-outs.
As Colleen
Tables, a four-pack of Kelsey Grammer
from Frazier's beer,
Faith American Ale,
that she's getting for free
and handing over to me.
I think that you and Mark should split this.
It's a gift, not from me,
from Kelsey Grammer.
Really, from his,
he owns a brewer.
Yes, this is his brewery, and I met him on a flight, and now I get beer shipped to my house.
How often?
We have a lot of this.
There's a lot of beer.
And if you listen to the throwback podcast, you know that Faith American Ale is the official beer of that show.
And my buddy Bob has a long, sorted history with Kelsey Grammer, who made fun of him on the Donahue show in 1993.
And now it's our official beer.
And Connie, I couldn't help.
I hope I'm not speaking out of turn.
And by the way, welcome to the podcast.
Hey, thanks.
It's great to be here.
When Kelsey was chatting you up in first class and then started plying you with all this alcohol,
did you ever do a Google search and see that all 14 of his wives look exactly like you?
He told me that he met his current wife on a flight, and we were on a flight at the time.
So, yeah, and then he got my address.
So everything's fine.
Well, that's how it starts.
Does John do you know about this?
John knows.
I did it just for the story, so I could come in to be like, I gave Kelsey Grammer of my
address today. Everything's fine. And then I had a gigantic pizza that I had transported from
Philadelphia. Nothing to be concerned about that. Let's get into some things, Connie, because it's
been a while. You were with us at Combine, and that was great. And a couple of things wanted to
take away from Combine. And Ricky, I'm going to need your help in a second to do some quick Googling.
first of all one of my favorite moments in our work travel history occurred after we were leaving
the steakhouse the famous steakhouse of course but the name always is saint elmos we're leaving
it was me you mark Greg Ricky we had a nice we had a nice crew there and we're walking out
the door into the cold February night
in Indianapolis and
all of a sudden you hear like
Hey Don! I was like, who?
Didn't recognize that. I turned around
and it's a listener of the show and I wish I
remembered his name right now but he was like
super nice and was like I know
you talked about that this is a good steakhouse
to go to and you were going to be here
so he had a pipe and a long coat
and then in the middle of
the commentary with me
you know it catches his eye
this one right here.
Sure.
And he stops speaking
and he looks over and he goes,
Oi, the Tony box.
And it made everything worth it.
It was the best moment of my career, maybe.
Stop thinking about that now.
Now he's sending you beer too.
The tiny books.
It was really great.
And then, so that was one thing I loved about the combine.
The other thing I loved was
you learned something, didn't you?
Something got revealed, connected to head coaches and what they're paying attention to.
Yes. I got you. I got you. Okay. So I have very good intel here that one of the 32 coaches in the NFL is very upset about a ranking that came out that he was involved in. And it was the hotness rankings. And he felt that he was far too low.
What do you mean hotness rankings? I guess there was someone that came out that.
rated and ranked NFL coaches based on their handsomeness.
They're the hotness factor.
Ricky, can you find that?
Can we, where was it?
Was it like a, on a website somewhere, I assume?
People were tweeting about it, but let me look.
I think it was kind of a little random,
but he was specifically upset that he was behind,
I think he came in like maybe 25th on the list.
Ooh.
And not great.
He was behind Bruce Ariens, which he was unhappy about.
He was behind many coaches, and this was confirmed by the head coach himself, the GM of the team, and someone else in the front office.
Can I, is he like, is he younger or older in scope?
He is probably.
It's not like Andy Reid is annoyed or something.
No, but I think Andy Reid might have been ahead of him.
Well, see, that would be if you're younger.
I found it.
I would say he's our, in our age range.
Oh, he's young.
Are you looking at the ESPN Southwest Florida?
page it's a i got it off some new orleans base thing so he's so upset that he was ranked
so low on this that he's decided to take the entire off season to get in shape and prove to
everyone that he should be higher up i knew it this this is amazing to me that the coaches are plugged
in like this but it's also a sign that this wave mark of younger coaches it they don't all look like
Wayne Fonce anymore.
And they all read the Internet and they all care about their looks and everything.
And now we know, thanks to Colleen's dogged report.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You are the new insider here.
And wait a second.
One other great nugget about this is he was having this coach was having a conversation
with Matt LaFleur.
And he walked, the coach walked over to me.
And I said, oh, there's number one, huh?
And he knew immediately, like without any context, I said that.
And we hadn't even talked about it yet.
and he knew immediately what I was talking about.
Oh, my goodness.
That's got under his skin.
You have blown the roof off this.
Now, I found it because here's LaFleur at number one.
And, Colleen, feel free to abstain.
I don't want to put you in an uncomfortable situation.
But Mark and I will be happy to share our thoughts on the top ten hottest coaches.
Yep.
LaFleur 1.
Brian Flores, number two, since dismissed under.
Do agree with that when that was, you know, contemporary.
Still handsome man, no longer a head coach.
Right.
So that moves up.
My man, Robert.
solid at number two.
Still no sign of a certain Cleveland coach.
Cliff Kingsbury number three.
Mike Tomlin, four.
Sean McVeigh, five.
Mike Vrable six.
Wait a minute.
Kevin Stefansky buried at seven.
Belichick at eight.
Zaddy.
What?
Zaddy?
Kyle Shanahan nine.
Pete Carroll rounds out the top ten.
Now, Debbie Hansis would sign off on that.
Deb.
She's been loving Pete Carroll since 93 with the Jets.
And for his age, he is a very good.
looking man.
Like, I think you got a nice smile, salt and pepper hair.
Yeah.
I think Sessler heard from my mom about her feelings on Pete Carroll on one of the first
times that we met you and Wes, my mom decided to unload about how much she hates Pete
Carroll.
Yeah.
That seemed to be a sticking point with her.
I mean, among other sticking points.
I still don't know why.
I think Dan Campbell gets stained a little bit here.
I think he should be higher up.
And you could certainly make a case that some of the other young.
guys like, let's say, Nick Siriani here.
Maybe he deserves to be had her.
I mean, Andy Reid is behind Siriani, but Arthur Smith and Andy Reid are right next to each other.
Sean Peyton buried in the back end.
Whoever this annoyed coaches, though, I mean, this was not a poll of thousands of people, correct?
This was one person.
We've been doing hotness rankings on this show for a decade.
Well, we've done hot butt rankings.
Well, but we've done some, like, you know, how the coach looks overall.
We discussed that offhand.
But if this was a list put together.
by one subjective person,
maybe the annoyed coach shouldn't take so much offense to it.
But it's out there, so.
Who knows what list they were going off of, though, too?
Because there's a lot of lists, I think,
floating around out there in the ether.
But you know what?
This is a coach that likes a chip on the shoulder,
it sounds like it's motivated them to improve body and mind.
I don't want to be unfair or mean-spirited,
so don't take this that way.
But they are public figures,
so do you want to hear the bottom five, according to this?
Yeah.
So that's where I'd start probably, to be honest.
My guy, Mike McCarthy, speaking of Zaddies, he is fifth to last, followed by Mike Zimmer, no longer with the head coach ranks.
Ron Rivera, Matt Ruhl coming into 31 and dead last, Vic Fangio, no longer head coach.
That means Rule has some catching up to do.
Now we have a whole crop of new coaches as well, which need to be restored.
So maybe we'll check back in on this.
But that, let's not lose the biggest storyline here that the coaches are wildly plugged in on this and annoyed.
that there's internet discourse about who's the best-looking coach.
Right.
The idea that they're tucked away in some bunker eating Chinese food
with no connection to the outside world is not accurate.
What's that sound?
Oh, it's Vince Lombardi rolling over in his grave.
Everything's a competition.
Competition, football, sports.
That's what we're about.
And we're going to get to everything that's going on around the league here
with Connie Fox and the sizzler, including, I think this is going to be fun.
Greg is on vacation, well-earned, and he's going to be disappointed to learn he missed this
because it's been a while.
But the return of one of our favorite segments from the old days,
Qualest you.
Fantasia.
And you know what I was thinking, Mark, because it's been a while.
It's probably been a year since we did this second.
Yeah, it has.
Which, by the way, it's the translation, the literal translation.
translation mark well you know dan you and i were together yesterday and we actually asked a spanish
speaking person and they disagree to this but i think it is what is your fantasy but in a previous
episode you called it what is your fancy um and we asked a spanish speaking person at it at an eatery
um if fantasia checked out as fantasy and he totally disagreed with us right well i mean i
agree with it really complex that that that that's how we came up with the segment because
we came up with a segment called you this was like seven eight years ago what is your fantasy
and then just plugged it into Google Spanish.
Hey, we've got Randy back here, Chavez.
He's going to settle the score right now.
Randy, what do you got, buddy?
What is the translation of what is your fantasy?
Hello, my sonigues.
There it is.
Oh.
There it is.
Qualest du Fantasia.
Fantasia.
Okay, see, that was our original question.
Right.
All right.
So we're accurate mostly.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you, Randy.
Well, then what was this other Spanish-speaking person
attempting to accomplish with us.
I don't know whatever he said, we translated and it didn't seem to check out.
There's also different countries of different words.
I wasn't know, I don't know where he came from originally, but let's, let's get, so it's
qual is tu fantasia.
I like that.
And how about, we put a colon on there, because it's been a while.
Qualest du fantasia.
The return.
Is that right?
Is that right, Randy?
Randy?
Get that headset back on him.
You want to say it?
Well, yeah, actually, we would love that.
What is your fantasy?
Like that?
Yeah, and then add,
El regreso.
El regreso.
It's a tough word.
El, el regrreso.
Beautiful.
Love it.
You guys can do that.
Randy, yeah, we can.
But you're an MVP behind that glass.
We thank you, buddy.
so we're going to get to that fantasy scenarios
either or type situation
we have to make a decision all right
but first let's do some news
one caveat
at 11.06 p.m. of every night
a small elven-like figure with black eyes
appears by your side to take a three by three
millimeter chunk of flesh out of your body
with his razor like two
what
oh my god
That's just a small clip of a past Qualistu Fantasia, we called him, and now it's Fantasia.
That episode was unhinged.
Like, I went back and listened to it, by the way, just real quick.
And the first thing I heard was Greg say, I love watching Blake Bordels.
And I was like, all right, this is a very old episode.
Yeah.
And it ended up with that, with a goblin-like flesh-eating character.
That was well before we were being monitored by anyone else in our building.
Hence the innocence we spoke of at the top of the show.
And also great to hear Chris Wessling's voice and his laughter there.
That was awesome.
All right.
Let's get into the news.
Let's start with the Patriots.
Now, the Patriots last year, Connie, you'll remember that they were the, quote, unquote,
winner of free agency.
They were the big spenders.
They spent more than anyone.
They gave out number one tight end money to two guys, which was like it should have been
a bit of a red flag there.
But you know what?
It worked on some level because the team improved with Mack Jones, a quarterback, of course,
and got to the playoffs two years after Tom Brady.
And they've been more quiet this year and even have lost some players,
including a Pro Bowl cornerback, of course.
And it makes you think that what are the Patriots doing?
What are they up to?
Are they actually getting better?
Is the bills rise up?
And of course, the dolphins look like they're rising up.
Well, they made a move.
They finally made a move that you could sink your teeth into.
The Patriots acquire wide receiver Devante Parker
and a 2022 fifth round pick from the Dolphins.
In exchange for a 2023 third round picked, third round pick.
So the Patriots have been active on the trade market.
We had heard about Robbie Anderson in the mix,
but it's Devante Parker in a rare AFC East on AFC East trade.
Your thoughts?
This is a total Belichick move,
just making the move for a veteran wide receiver.
I feel like that is something that a lot of times works out for the Patriots
and doing that deal with Miami when Miami.
But look at Miami.
There we go.
So it fills a glaring need with Parker, who he's got a lot of upside.
He's big.
He's physical.
He's good after the catch.
He can play all three spots.
It's an affordable contract.
And so now they don't have to be so thirsty at the draft for a wide receiver.
And it's a potential win-win for everyone because it's exactly what Mack Jones and the Patriots
offense needs right now.
They don't have another wide receiver like Parker.
And he steps immediately into a number one wide receiver role.
It also lessens the pressure on Nelson Agilor
so he can get more time in the slot potentially.
And Parker gets a fresh start with a new team,
maybe a chance to hit the reset button there.
I mean, they just need him to stay healthy.
But if they can do that, it really might work out.
I like Jacoby Myers too.
And if you throw in Hunter Henry,
Jonu Smith, Agilore, and Parker,
it's not a bad cast at all.
I mean, I think if you, one thing for all of New England's brilliance,
if you look at who they've drafted at wide receiver,
be it first round, second, third over the past, you know, decade.
It's been abysmal.
It's been a blind spot.
It's the opposite of the Pittsburgh Steelers and what they had done at wide receiver.
They have not been able to do that.
So I think it's almost an admission of like they were looking for someone.
You mentioned Robbie Anderson.
I think this is a good fit for Devante Parker.
I mean, when Tyreek Hill went to Miami, this was the obvious next move for Devante Parker.
I mean, everyone ever were saying he's out the door.
And so here you go.
To that point, and I'll go from the ATN era, which is 2013,
Onward, their failure to address the wide receiver position
leads to having to go to free agency in the trade market
and those don't always work out either.
But here are the wide receivers they've drafted since 2013.
Aaron Dobson, Josh Boyce, Kimbrell Tompkins, Jeremy Gallon, or Gallon,
Malcolm Mitchell, Devin Lucian, Braxton Barrios,
who's now productive for the Jets, Nikiel Harry, Jacobi Myers.
These are all guys, Myers was on draft.
and he's been a decent player,
but they've struggled on that front.
Now,
Devante Parker is interesting
because he's a former first-round pick.
He definitely fits the mold of a big body outside receiver,
the number one that Mack Jones needs to take the next step.
Now, you look at his production,
and he's only had one big year,
and that was 2019 when he went 72 for 1202 and nine touchdowns.
With Ryan Fitzpatrick, right?
With Ryan Fitzpatrick, yep.
And so he's entering now.
his age 29 season so it's not a slam dunk it's not as flashy as if they went out and got
tyreek hill or d k matcalf or whatever but maybe these are the type of moves that fly under the
radar and end up being more successful we will see but it makes you think also connie that the
dolphins who once they traded for tyreek hill and have jalen waddle devante parker becomes
uh someone that they could move move on from that they were confident sending him in the division makes
makes you think that maybe they're not so high on his
upside going forward. It's pretty telling how
much they, what they think of him
that they're going to face him twice a year.
But I think that the Patriots
know the potential with him
because one of Parker's best games ever
was against the Patriots and Stefan Gilmore
just a few years ago. So Bill Belichick
did not forget about that at all. So they
know that that is somewhere in him
and maybe they can unlock it.
All right. Speaking of the
Dolphins, Xavier Howard,
what are the kids called?
X?
He received the bag.
Five years, 90 million.
Two translations?
He had three years remaining on a five-year, $75 million contract signed in 2019.
So add two years, another $50 million.
He's now the highest paid corner in football.
So he's locked up into his 30s.
This was a player, Mark, that has been very productive.
Three pro balls in the last three years led the NFL and Interceptions in 2020.
a guy you want to keep in the building
and after some acrimony last year
now they are all simpatico.
Yeah, that holdout last year.
I mean, there were whispers and thoughts
that he might move out of Florida
and out of Miami to somewhere else
and they kept him with a restructure.
So this was coming and I really like one thing that's happening
and I know it's not all Mike McDaniel.
It's Chris Greer too.
But they are finding good players
and bringing them in as free agents.
They are keeping their own guys.
Mike McDaniel is not one of these coaches
who floats into a roster
that is half broken and good luck and see where you are three years from now.
They have a lot of pieces.
And the fact that, you know, remember, Byron Jones was annoyed with what was happening with
Xavier Howard a year ago.
They have both of them still.
They found a way to keep them both.
It saves us an anti-drama going into the summer because I do think that Howard was a candidate
to hold out again if he didn't get.
Last year was a patch.
It's like, well, keep you around.
We're going to have to address this down the road.
And now they've done it.
And the Dolphins said that they would revisit Howard's contract this offseason after they
tweaked it in August. But it's first of all, I love that the team made good on that because they're
trying to keep this defense together. But it's been kind of, it's kind of crazy to me a little wild
because his agent said that this has been obviously in the works for a year. So that's crazy to
think that he had four years remaining on his contract and they were already in talks to renegotiate.
And Byron Jones, obviously getting paid, set this all into motion. But my random thoughts on this
are, I really like the idea of
Xavier Howard and Tyreek Hill
going at each other in practice
and also I'm going to scrub my social media
from all NFL network things
to see if I can get a race
because that seems to work.
It seems to have a positive effect.
That's for sure.
By Connie, Miami Dolphins,
very intriguing team this offseason.
I'm setting the over under
at nine and a half wins.
What are you going with?
I'm going to take the over.
Wow, banging the over.
How about Sizzler?
I will too.
I think this is going to be
one of the more intriguing teams out there.
You're both wrong.
They will be 8 and 9.
I don't think so.
Keep that sound clip.
Yes.
We shall see.
Although, isn't my fascination
of Mike McDaniel
because this happens
with like three coaches a year,
there's another world
where it goes totally south
and he completely nose-dives.
I live in that world,
the world of reality.
They've done so much this last month, though.
Yes, I've seen,
I've looked into the
future and you will be very disappointed. I know, Mark, you're in a very tough spot fan base
wise. And if you start thinking about the Dolphins as a team to jump over to, I would advise
you not. Not a candidate. I'm sitting in Greg's seat, so I should also mention, don't forget
that Teddy Bridgewater is there too. That's important. See, you know, carrying the torch for Rosie,
as he's called. How you doing with the Greg bot, by the way? How's that coming? The Greg
But I can only have my fingers in one project at a time.
And the Mark 1 is really taking on so much of my free time that I don't, you know,
maybe somebody else could take on the Greg bot project.
Okay.
That seems like a lot of work on several levels.
I'm just going to stay out of the Greg bot.
I've got to source it to the listeners.
Well, I heard, I heard your work and what you put together with that bot while I was gone.
I was like, do I really need to dress myself and come into the office today?
Because what is the difference between this and that?
Nothing.
I mean, I missed you.
I guess from a show content, it delivered everything that Mark would.
I'm content driven and it did everything that I could do.
Bang, another drop right there.
At it. Ricky, add it.
All right.
Two 49ers of the past in the news starting with, and this is, you know, speaking of Greg,
just terrible timing.
Frank Gore is signing a one-day contract to retire with the 49ers
and join the San Francisco front office.
Gore played forever.
one of the leading rushers in NFL history.
Certainly has a case for Canton.
Rich Eisen coined him the inconvenient truth.
That's how long Frank Gore was around because that was in reference to the Al Gore
documentary that came out literally like 20 years ago.
And Frank Gore had a really long productive career.
Connie, it does hurt though because Greg was pounding the table for Gore forever.
And to the point where I reached out to.
him on text. I said, do you want to deliver a message to the audience? And he laughed it off.
And I was like, dude, I wasn't joking. You've been talking about Gore forever. This is your
moment, but he passed. So what does that tell you? Probably enjoys vacation with his family is what it
tells you. Well, true. Yeah, so Frank Gore, guys, one of the greatest running backs of all time,
one of the greatest of the position. I just hope he pursues a path in the front office and not
boxing because that didn't really work out so well for him in that round. You had to bring that up.
I do think he's a Hall of Famer and no questions asked.
I know the length of the career, you could say that that helped him compile these numbers,
but he's not a compiler in my book on any level.
He had 12 straight seasons with 1,200 plus scrimmage yards.
He was utterly dominant.
He also was just personally my type of football player.
Like, I'll remember, you know that place, Jocksters Daily, that Culver City bar that smells slightly of death in its previous incarnation.
The floor is very sticky.
They fixed it.
Right.
Right. Well, no, it looks better now, but.
I went in there one night.
This was October 18th, 2012.
And this was a Thursday night Niners Seahawks clash.
Low scoring, Niners won 13 to 6.
Gore in that game ran for like eight plus yards to carry and looked incredible.
I mean, it was just like this is my type of player, my type of running back, and I totally
get where Greg's coming from.
And that was 2012 where it's like, if you look at the average length of a running back's
career, maybe he'd be out of the league two years after it.
He'd be replaced.
He goes on to play for another eight.
and finishes with the Jets?
Well, yeah, that was not.
I'm not citing the Jets as the high.
You know what?
I don't feel strongly enough to really come at anybody hard
on the Frank Orth situation.
I will say that he was an all-pro.
He was never first-team all-pro.
He was all-pro second-team once,
made it to five Pro Bowls
and never in the last seven years of his career.
And I thought if you want to make a Hall of Fame case,
then you open the door for other guys.
I remember we used to get into these arguments with Wes
or I used to all the time because I'd be like,
well, look at Eli Manning, look at his counting stats.
And he's like, it's not about counting stats.
For me with Frank Gore, if he gets to the hall,
it's because he hung around for so long
and averaged 3.8 to 4.1 yards per carry his last seven years.
I don't think he, when I think about the best running backs of the era,
I don't think of Gore, but I think there's certainly something
to be said for durability and being a great locker room presence
and just being someone that you could count on at a very demanding position.
So I don't know if he's a Hall of Famer to me,
but I'm not going to fight it either
if you feel strongly.
The average on the back end of his career
is really impressive.
I didn't know that.
That's a good number.
Right.
He didn't diminish.
I do see him as a Hall of Fame
because I think he's a special,
part of Hall of Fame is the story
and how he fit into the history.
And I don't know, there wasn't,
like, he wasn't just hanging around
and falling off a cliff.
To me, Frank Gore, not Al Gore.
We don't even have an Al Gore discussion,
but Frank Gore, like, was the same guy
from wire to wire.
And I just, he was one of my favorite players.
He finished with exactly 16,000 career rushing yards.
That's cool, too.
Kind of cool.
Mark, can you name all five teams that Frank Gore played with?
All right, Niners, Jets, Bills, and then I'm starting to fall apart at that point.
Dolphins?
Oh, dolphins, yeah.
One more.
Need it.
Got to get it.
Three years.
2015 to 2017.
Oh, man.
I don't like these types of questions because I can.
can't remember what I was doing yesterday at this time.
The Indianapolis Coles.
That's right.
It was too late.
All right.
It's fine.
I hate losing.
Well, it brought in as a finishing piece to those teams.
Yes.
As I said, other former Niners news,
Colin Kaepernick, still in the news.
Following a throwing exhibition on Saturday,
Colin Kaepernick indicated that he's willing to accept a backup quarterback job in the NFL.
Kaepernick has not.
taking a snap since the 2016 season.
Obviously, the only real way for him to get back into the game is as a backup, so he's
letting it be known.
He's now 34 years old.
And we know the story around Kaepernick and how he became such a divisive figure across
the league.
And do you think there's any chance, Mark, we see Colin Kaepernick get another job?
It's telling to me that he didn't get one last year or the year before when a lot
of this had melted away. And I think that there were more coaches and teams out there. And then
there's a team like the Seahawks that multiple years, they've expressed interest and nothing's
happened. And even Pete Carroll, you know, a week ago at the owner's meetings, sort of said
nothing's moved forward with that. I mean, it's notable that this workout was conducted by Jim Harbaugh,
who probably would have been the one guy if he were still in the league that would bring Kaepernick in.
I mean, I think there's another chance, but he's older. He's not played in a long time. And
it's, I don't see it as a lightning
type signing necessarily
for some coaches, but there's
younger guys out there that you want to grow and develop
as your backup. And so I think he's in a tough spot
unless a team gets into a pinch.
Yeah, I mean, the fact that
Cap never got a second chance,
even as a backup quarterback
anywhere in the league, because we've seen
ridiculous players
playing the quarterback position, especially like
during COVID and stuff, when
they were using like wide receivers at the
quarterback position. Teams were just running out
of bodies. The fact that Cap never got a second chance at all when Deshawn Watson's out here
signing a record breaking deal. It kind of tells me everything I already knew about society in general,
but I thought it was really interesting on one of your episodes last week. You guys talked
about the NFL being really clicky. And that, I think, is so, so important and it's so real
because I never really thought about that before, about the NFL kind of being a click, but it is. And
if you go against what everyone else is doing, then like you're kind of the pariah and a lot of
teams don't want to risk that. And that comes with the territory of Colin Kaepernick. But
it's just mind blowing to me that Kaepernick never got another call. How about this? Brian Flores
files a civil suit connected to racial discrimination, quickly gets hired by the Steelers. That was this,
I thought that was a very positive sign for a clicky league that sometimes can turn its shoulder
easily and collectively.
If Flores can get another job immediately on the staff of the Steelers,
you know, somebody should be bringing in Kaepernick for a workout,
but you know what?
It hasn't happened yet.
And why not have him in for training camp and let him compete and see,
you know, he talked about himself as if you bring me in,
I will prove that I have, I can win games for you that I'm a starter.
Okay, that's great in words.
But what's the harm in bringing him in for August, July and August and seeing what you have?
If no team does, I think that's very telling.
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NFL Network's Ian Rappaport expects the Browns
to trade Baker Mayfield before the draft.
Wait a minute.
What was that guffawing or whatever that's set,
that verbal?
I can't be alone.
Is anyone else like super exhausted with the Baker,
Browns, quarterback?
Anything.
Any of this stuff?
It's not going away.
Well, it could.
What if we fired into the sun?
Well, that's what we attempted to do on our network show.
Let's try it again.
Let's try it right here.
Okay.
And go.
It's through the stratosphere.
It looks like it's returning?
Is it coming back?
Oh, no.
It's coming back.
Oh, no.
Toward our earth.
It's back.
Cleveland is expected to cover it.
It didn't work.
Part of a Mayfield's $18 million.
salary.
So that's where we're at now.
So and don't listen to anything you hear about the Browns maybe be willing to keep Baker
Mayfield on the team.
That's just not an option.
So he's going to be moved.
It just matters now where he ends up.
Seattle makes sense.
Carolina should make some sense.
The Titans are being mentioned out there.
Whoa, the Titans and Bucks reportedly also.
landing spots. Let's get the grave digger on this.
Nonsense.
Nonsense as a backup though.
Nonsense as in your feelings on it or
if you think the reporting is unsound.
I think the reporting is speculation
on teams that could use a
upgrade at backup quarterback, but
unless Mayfield is cut, the
Titans can't pay that fifth year option salary
with the way they currently have. Yeah, he's
expensive. That's the part that needs to change
here and that's why they're not getting any offers.
Exactly. How about this? What? You know
what I want to watch this summer?
What?
I want to watch Baker Mayfield and Jared Goff in a hard-knocks training camp battle.
What if he ended up in Detroit?
Hmm.
I am so glad that I'm not using the Qual-S-2 Fantasia that I initially came up with
because it was that exact scenario.
It's literally exact that whole thing about Jared Goff.
I'll say it real quick.
In this scenario, Jared Goff is on a hike in Malibu with his new girlfriend.
and is bitten by a snake, goes into a coma,
and the lions are forced to trade for Baker Mayfield,
who rides in on horseback and leads them to the playoffs for the first time in 30 years,
as he did with Cleveland after their long absence from the playoffs.
But then I said, you know what?
I don't like that scenario.
Yeah, plus Jared Goff sounds like he was seriously injured by a snake, was it?
No, well, the part B was that he awakens from coma right before Thanksgiving,
replaces a middling Baker Mayfield,
rips off like five straight wins, and then they lose in the playoffs.
interesting but you can see why i pass see also i know that if i
baker mayfield scenario gets has no traction with dan so it's like i got to play to the audience
i thought like maybe a hard knocks thing would would get a little pop and dan just stared at me dead
no dan dan is over this can we try to do it again can we try maybe this one will get to the sun
it somehow got rejected and turn back our way and now we're talking about other hypotheticals
connected to baker mayfield in a trade come on that's the rocket launcher it sounds like it's made of
Get through there.
That's the problem.
Go.
Go.
It's like from Game of Thrones.
What are we doing here?
Uh-oh.
It's turning.
It's coming back.
Oh!
Banged in the biggest spot.
Ouch.
That was a house behind us.
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Finally, a little league floats them.
Jetsam. Texans sign Marlon Mac, the running back. The Bucks re-sign former hard-knock star Giovanni
Bernard. Remember you drove an old beat-up minivan? I remember that. I didn't remember that. No,
I don't remember it. And poor Brandon Cooks. The Texans have received, quote, multiple calls
reportedly on the wide receiver. Now, this is another fun game. Connie, I'm going to put you on the
spot. Here we go. Brandon Cook's pulling it up on old pro football reference. Oh, God.
Name the teams for Brandon Cooks.
But so obviously he was with the Saints for a little bit, the Rams.
He was with the Patriots.
He's the Texans.
Who am I missing?
That's it.
You got it.
All right.
It's a lot of teams for a 28-year-old who has 1,000 yards a season.
But I think he's getting traded because people, it's like people won.
This one might be different.
This is a little bit different than he's floating from team to team.
He's at a weird journey.
Yeah, he has.
All right.
That's what's happening in the news.
All right.
now
everyone
understand
we're about to
enter
the land of the mystical
okay
this is not
the work of an occult
this is not
witchcraft
but this is also
something to not
let the children
here
because we're entering
into a dark
universe
I was going to say
metaverse
I think that works
a dark
and sometimes stormy
metaverse
I didn't use it initially because I wasn't sure if it was.
I think that more means that you're flip-plopping
in a metaverse type show from timeline to timeline.
There's a multiverse too, right?
Yeah, that's what I was looking for.
The metaverse can be defined as a simulated digital environment
that uses augmented reality, virtual reality.
That's this world.
Maybe.
That's this podcast.
But just put the kids to bed.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
Bat in the hatchets.
because it's time
once again
for
what is your fantasy
colon
the regresso
qual is your fantasy
el regraso
Randy Chavez
Mark
do you want to get us going
or do you want to build up to a little sassler
I'd be happy to get us going
get us going
all right
While you sit in your work cubicle staring at the doomed midday sun,
an angelic being descends and informs you telepathically that you have a decision to make.
Choice A. You can be Josh Allen for the next calendar year.
Having his talents, all of his experiences, his ups and downs, you're him, feeling what he feels,
but you also have a double consciousness where you can tell you are aware that you are you
having this experience inside of him
and you come out of it
back to being you writing a
groundbreaking novel
the flinger that is so
insanely detailed and accurate
in describing the life of an NFL quarterback
that it goes down as the greatest
sports novel and then sports
film of all time.
You are celebrated like royalty for the next
three years but then suddenly
perish when a wayward
missile mistakenly launched
from a base in Tyran
scatters your 70-foot yacht.
You go down in history, though, as a total hero
because you save the life of both actress Jennifer Lawrence
and the real Josh Allen,
pushing them off deck into safe waters
just before the missile lands,
because that's what heroes do.
Or choice B.
Wait, it was Lawrence and Josh Allen on the yacht.
I'm just noting all this.
I'm doing the same thing.
There would be multiple people on the yacht,
and he was able to save them before.
Special people.
Yes.
Yes.
Choice B.
All right, you live to be 100.
With all the pleasures of life, yada, yada,
save for four issues.
Mark's worst nightmare.
Go on.
One, you are not allowed to use the Internet ever again.
Problem.
Two.
No matter where you are,
you sense a faint smell of rotting cheese in the air.
Oh, my God.
Problem.
Three.
Whenever you watch football,
you have zero ability to see the quarterback on screen.
To you, the quarterback is utterly invisible.
No QB.
Four.
Insight line ever, okay.
Number four, you live with a kitten named Curly Girl.
The problem for you is that Curly Girl has the ability to read your mind.
Keenly observe your actions and telepathically produce a daily online blog in reverse
Josh Allen fashion that totally exposes your ups and downs.
It becomes a massive sensation, but against your will.
You can't figure out who's chronically.
your darkest secrets.
Yes, you become this sort of anti-hero
who is super honest and seeing that way by others,
but you didn't want any of this out there.
And of course, you never come around to the conclusion
to blame Curly Girl for writing this blog.
P.S., when Curly Girl dies,
cats live to be like, what, 15 or something?
You are dumb enough to buy a subsequent kitty
named Curly Girl 2.0,
and that kitten has the same power.
Then Curly Girl 3.0, et cetera, et cetera.
You never figure it out.
That was going to be my loophole.
So you got to pick.
How old are you on the yacht missile, the yacht attack?
You're you, but you only have, you know, the book would come out, let's say, a year after Josh Allen's next season.
Right.
And then you.
And there was a movie option.
The movie gets made and becomes a hit, so how long is probably there?
From the minute that the book comes out.
How long do I live after?
That's what I'm trying to go out.
I'd say a total another five years tops.
so live the 46th do i have like emily and the boys are they in my life that's yeah that you're it's
you it's you but you also i'm not the one thing i don't know how to explain is where you go when you're
inside josh allen for a year but that's that's the the work of a writer that you would be doing
to create the novel but well you i mean i feel like you created two nightmare scenarios for me
personally well that's the point isn't it well i mean that's why we put the kids to the bed that's
why we bat the patches because it's not always a fairytail.
And certainly when it's Mark's turn, there's never a positive choice.
So it becomes a Sophie's choice.
What do you think, Colleen?
Okay, so I'm thinking this through right now.
And I'm thinking that the second scenario sounds worse.
But if your cat is just like exposing your day to everyone online, but like who is reading
that?
who even knows how to find Curly Girl?
Like, does it reach, what are the numbers?
I said it becomes a massive sensation.
Who reads blogs anymore?
Well, okay, so let's say the cat gets, you know,
the content would be up.
Is the cat on TikTok?
The content would become multi-platform.
This cat is.
It's the rotting cheese smell in the air
that constantly follows me around.
See, that bothered me the least because you would get used to that.
Would you?
You would.
If it was always there.
Like when you're around someone that bat smells,
bad or if you smell bad yourself
it starts to not bother you
after a certain amount of time.
Right.
Maybe.
I don't think, not for me.
Okay.
I have a smell thing.
You got a smell thing.
Yeah, that does it for me.
So I'm going to take the,
I'm going to perish on a yacht
after saving Jennifer Lawrence
and Josh Allen and being a hero.
That's why you have to go that route, Mark,
and I'll tell you why.
I think you overplayed your hand a little bit
on the second one, only because
you're the big cell for the
where did I possibly do that?
The big sell, I think,
For the second was a long life, that you get to live a long life.
But everything else runs counter to living, wanting to live.
Like no internet, okay, that's going to be tough.
That's going to be tough, but we've been there before and you would be okay after a while.
The rotting cheese thing, see, I, I, that's not pleasant, but I could deal with that in time.
The no quarterback in my sight line ever, that would effectively rule out football is something
I would watch after a while just because you lose that.
but the whole kitten thing is a nightmare scenario.
I'm also allergic to cats.
So like it's crazy to me that I would keep buying these cats after they die.
And the fact that it would be documenting all my like darkest thoughts, that doesn't sit well with me.
And the fact that it would become a sensation, I'm out.
So give me five years to live as a hero.
Yeah.
And it's horrible, but that's the way I have to go.
See, I'm all.
I'm allergic to cats.
I'm also allergic to dogs.
And I keep buying cats and dogs too.
So that part didn't bother me at all.
I think that living as a hero, dying is a hero.
Living and dying as a hero is my answer.
So there you go, Mark.
You got us all to admit that we'd rather die in less than five years.
That's so bleak.
Well, hold on.
I mean, what was I supposed to...
Batten the hatchets.
You want me to come in with a dog and pony like Pollyanna scenario?
No, no.
Just be you.
I like it.
Where's the elven-like creature with the black eyes?
It's going to take 3.3 millimeters.
off of my flesh every night.
All right, Connie, what you got?
Okay, all right, here we go.
Wait for Rundee's for this.
What is your fantasy?
What a voice on that one.
I love it.
All right, here we go.
The phone rings.
Looks like a cue.
All right, it's less need.
It gets answered.
It gets answered.
It's less need.
He's just finished an efficient workout and a perfectly personalized protein shake.
On the other line, someone desperate to run.
In fact, it's all he thinks about, dreams about, obsesses about.
Can't say I blame him.
I frequently think about going on the lamb.
But for him, it's different.
After tearing his ACL in the Super Bowl,
the only thing that matters to O'Dell Beckham Jr. is running free again.
The conversation with Les is warm but short.
Les explains that Beckham won't be part of the Rams next season.
And that he let his heart do the talking at that video conference two weeks ago
when he's told reporters that he wanted Beckham back.
God damn it, Odell, the rambley will never be the same.
Rambley.
Set a breathless sneed.
And then the call drops.
A busy signal.
Odell felt dizzy.
Like he might even throw up.
He needed to clear his head.
But before he could queue up the second season of Starstruck, his ears filled with ringing.
And damn it was his phone again.
God, this thing.
All right.
But this time, it was another GM.
Calling with an offer, he couldn't refuse.
You choose the adventure here.
Was it?
A.
Andrew Barry saying,
become back?
Was it B? Bill Belichick
promising another ring
to the future Patriot?
Mm-hmm.
Was it C?
Chris Ballard
persuading O'Dell to bring
Indy back to relevance.
Mm-hmm.
Or was it D?
Brian Gutakuntz
with an invitation
to the hottest vacation destination
in Wisconsin.
The Packers.
Goody.
So aggressive that.
Wow.
Choose your own adventure.
I absolutely am going goody.
I don't like this Packers' wide receiver room right now.
It needs some sizzle.
I know Odell's a little up and down now at the stage of the game,
back-to-back ACLs, but that still makes sense as a destination
and trying to see what would happen if you put him in that offense.
as a guy that they need.
Now he stepped up for the Rams in the playoffs.
Could he do it for the Packers and get them over the hump?
That one is the most intriguing to me against the Colts, the Pats, and the Browns.
The Bill Belichick, another ring thing, does not ring true for me
because they don't have that team right now.
And I think if you're Odell, you're trying to simply win Super Bowls
and you look at Mack Jones and say, nice player.
But it was just a week ago that he talked about Matt Ryan fitting so well in Indy.
That said, what are the Packers doing if they don't do more at wide receiver?
He fits perfectly well with Aaron Rogers.
I'm with Dan.
And, you know, we've got the Goody song, the sound bites.
I don't know if Odell's nightlife is the most important thing at this point.
Green Bay, not the greatest thing for that.
But these guys can fly to wherever they want all the time.
I'm going Packers.
They tried to get them last year, too.
I mean, yeah, the problem is there's no Delilah in Green Bay.
But that's the big spot here.
but yeah I mean I think I agree the Colts are a little short at wide receiver and you want to give Matt Ryan the best chance possible otherwise why did you take on the contract and go down that road I'm not totally sold on the Patriots skill position players there even with Devante Parker yet but I just don't see Odell's a fit there I don't either I don't like that and the Browns one yeah feels played to me I hear the chatter but come on it would you know I
I heard also Jarvis Landry might be interested in going back.
How about, yeah, let's clean break and move on.
Otherwise, we're going to bring up that other name again.
And it went into the sun and it exploded.
Yeah.
All right.
We're with you.
Goody is the choice.
Do you, is that what you want?
That's who I would have gone with too, Goody.
That's why I saved him for last.
I can't believe Les Need with crocodile tears was like, oh, the ramily will never be the same again.
Yeah.
It's not like it.
That seemed a little disingenuous to O'Dell.
I feel like how often.
has he said ramily, I don't know.
Lesneed doesn't seem like a ramily speaking guy.
It was a weird conversation.
Very strange.
All right, let's take a break and I'll do one more.
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on a podcast.
This is a game that's been returned from the Mystic Deep called...
Qualest your fantasy.
El Regrzzo.
All right.
Mark.
This applies to both of you, but...
I was like, you're making him go again.
Do you not have one?
Again.
How many teams did Brian...
site play for.
Let's get into it.
It's March 18th,
2020.
Time travels into play.
Andrew Barry and the Haslims
are in a conference room in Cleveland
with Deshawn Watson
and his agent.
Watson has been handed a gold pen to sign the contract extension
that will finalize the blockbuster trade
that will change the Browns forever.
Some say for better?
Others worse.
Just as the infamous QB is set to put pen to paper,
the door swings open.
Or creaks open?
No.
The door explains.
And in walks a hero without a cape, Mark f***ing Sessler.
Mark is met with stunned silence and confused glares.
He cuts through the tension with an opening statement.
I'm annoyed now.
And snatches the pen from Watson.
Mark demands Cleveland officials rethink their seismic decision to QB.
Jimmy Haslam, the owner, perhaps moved.
perhaps frightened.
Remember, the door exploded.
Acquiesces to Marks, please, and nixes the deal.
It's over.
Okay.
This immediately becomes the wildest NFL story of all time.
And huge international news.
Podcaster breaks into team headquarters.
Coerces or convinces ownership to back out of one of the
craziest deals ever the one that could you know you get it mark's unreal determination to risk it all
and position principle over winning makes him a cult hero
Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefansky are both swept out of the building in the ensuing fallout
a new leadership which now includes Mark in a largely ceremonial advisory role
Struggles mightily to pivot.
Cleveland free falls to a 4-27 record over the next two seasons.
A controversial trade of Miles Garrett and a first for Gardner Mnichu
is met with a tsunami of criticism from a howling football gardener sent.
Suspicion's suspicions that Sestog is pulling the strings are rampant.
the struggles of the team reshapes how Brown's fans see marks intrusion on team business years earlier
and he becomes a pariah for the fan base
the Brown's quietly stripped mark of his honorary title
and Cestog slips into obscurity
the entire saga has an untold effect
on the Cestog's physical and mental well-being
which leads me to the question
great
Do you still stop Deshaun Watson from signing that contract?
Yes.
Wow.
Why?
Well, because I think, like, if I, first of all, get the one camera off me as soon as possible.
And the tightest of tight shots ever.
It's like, not the day for it.
Because I think if you do something that you believe in, you're probably going to pay a price half the time anyways.
So the other option is don't do something you believe in and continue to coast.
So that's where as far as I can go at this point with it.
Yes, I think I would because I also like the concept of the door exploding,
like taking the golden pen and throwing it to the side.
Right.
And then having like these multimillionaires staring at me trying to connect the dots
because we've talked to each other once or twice in the deep past.
Like who is this nerd that just entered the room?
Right.
And what is he about to do?
So I like that part of it.
Nerds around the world.
And then the team's deep struggles and the fan base turning against you
and you're becoming a pariah, you'll live with that.
I feel like I wouldn't love it.
I mean, I think I become sort of like Jack Easterby Part 2, it sounds like.
And on top of it, like the idea that I would think that where I sit with my current football
knowledge, which I agree would be limited for a general manager role or something like that,
that I would trade Miles Garrett in a first round.
pick for a gardener minchew figure that is another three years old.
I mean, at this point, like, what substances are inside of me?
That happens in the ensuing this offseason.
You have to fill the quarterback position again.
But even this off season, that would, that sets me up to be a total rupe.
Like, I wouldn't do, I would never sign up.
I only notice in this moment that you're wearing a Brown's hat right now, which is interesting
as well as I speak to you about this.
It's, it cites my old stance, my old fandom.
He doesn't have to get rid of the hat.
Colleen, you can rock that hat for as long as you want.
It's an elf.
It's an elf.
It's an elf and figure.
Colleen, if you were in Mark's shoes, where would you come down?
So this like cushy advisory role, what's that about in the front office?
It's just like.
And what you should know.
Like a Bruce Ariens type role?
Right. That's what I was thinking.
What you should know is that we don't really know for sure if you had anything to do with, you know, the Garrett for Minchu trade.
But people, you know, how passionate Browns fans are.
They would dig up old podcasts and they would.
see, like, how big a fan you were.
Be totally targeted.
And you weren't even necessarily be behind that move.
Maybe you had some input, but you weren't pulling the triggers.
But that will be how it's remembered that you were the one that did it.
Yeah, I think they would go back and look at, you know, they would study their tape of this show and be like, that idiot is the one who pulled the track on it.
But it really doesn't matter what was true or not.
That's how the public would take that.
My problem is the end of it, the fact that how, so it's just he lives out the rest of his life with mental and physical anguish.
If he chooses to go down that road.
I don't like that aspect for Mark.
Nor does Mark.
If I was Mark, I would also blow up the door and the trade and say, I'm annoyed now because that's in general how I feel.
But that's the easy part.
Right.
But if I'm saying what I think, if I had the power here, I would let Mark live out his days in relative relaxation and not stressful.
As we know, in the game of...
What is your fantasy?
What is your fantasy?
El Regrzzo.
It's just not how things tend to turn out, unfortunately.
But we actually live in the world where the other choice was made.
Like, it did happen, and I just go on.
So if I actually...
That's the other choice.
If I really think about it, like, I don't care what the Browns do.
That's what I'm trying to get at.
All right, well, so let me actually, like, you know, you're answering these questions on the flight.
Like, they've already done what they do.
with this. So I'm living in the other option
is just the current existence. We, you and I
enjoyed that book 112263
by Stephen King. Right. Where they
find a portal in like
an old diner that allows the guy to
stop the JFK assassination.
That's what we're dealing with here. You could just avoid that
diner.
I think they can make their choice. I thought for a second
was like I have to be all about that choice
and stay a fan and be super excited about it.
I'll just stay with where I am right now.
I'm doing my thing. They can do their
thing. Have a nice time.
dog though like that's something that I could get behind just the nickname sticking in the big
spot I also got hooked into the cushy you know probably well paid role at some point that's
you know that's not the most uh that's not the worst thing to think about that sounded kind of nice
yeah uh all right do we have anything else um well here i have a quick one all right Connie last one
here we go okay oh all right you've been told you must board a plane immediately the only information
you've been given is you must stay awake for 47 straight hours.
You can do it one of two ways.
The first option is watching a 2017 week three
Jags Titans game on loop.
The second is having a non-stop conversation
with the NFL network insider of your choosing.
You decide.
47 straight hours of talking
or watching the same game over and over and over again.
A terrible game.
And, well, it should be said,
because I want to make sure we're on the same page
that according to the language in this company,
there is only one NFL network insider.
It's Ian Rappaport.
Okay.
There are other insiders or reporters,
but there's only one guy that gets that title fixed to his name.
Am I correct?
Okay.
I think you mean the broader umbrella of,
Insiders. Well, they call them insiders, right?
But there's only one. I guess there's only one. Well, there is only one.
It's in his contract. It's in the boilerplate of the deal.
So is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, um, you could pick from the, I think you can pick
from any of the newsmakers here. Newsmakers.
Newsmakers. How about that? Newsbreakers. And, and I should also just throw in there that, like,
I don't remember the 2017 week three game. I don't even know if the Jags and Titans played each
other at that point.
I think we get what you're saying.
Just picture that.
Wait, what was at stake, though?
That's what I forgot.
Like, why am I staying in wait for 47 straight hours again?
You're rewarded with a handsome prize, cash prize at the end.
Oh.
And what if I fall asleep?
What if I fall asleep?
You're banged on a big spot.
That's it.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
That would be a big one.
Can't fall asleep, 47 straight hours.
Well, I won't.
Almost two days.
I'm famous in my house for falling asleep all the time.
on the couch and stuff when we're trying to watch TV shows drives my wife crazy.
And I'm not ashamed to admit that on those Mondays,
those power rankings Mondays after a long Sunday,
when I'm going through every game on Game Pass,
when I'm about seven games in and it's 3.30 in the afternoon,
I've been known to doze off during watching some of these games.
It is a tonic for that.
So now you're telling me I'm watching a terrible game from five years ago
between two bad teams, there's no chance I stay awake.
The only chance I have to stay awake and I guess not die in a plane crash is to be talking to someone.
And let me add this.
The talking to someone that obviously helps you stay awake, you have someone to bounce up off of.
But you have to split the pot of money at the end with that person.
Well, but I'm with Dan.
I would not off probably in quarter four of the first showing of that game.
So we'd have problems.
I'm going with the talking with, you know, I could talk with my.
Mike Garifolo for 47 hours, and we would be, his job would be to keep me awake. I did a sleep
study in Boston once where I had to, I needed money, it was in a hospital, you had to at one point
stay up for 48 straight hours. Wait, really? Yes, and it was, by the end of it, you're seeing
visions. It's insane. I don't recommend it, and I didn't make a lot of money for it either,
but there were nurses and doctors that will come in and kind of help you a little bit. So I know
that in my experience, you absolutely need human interaction to not totally fade away.
So you're going, I'm going, Mike G.
And, like, I'll split the pot with Mike G.
Also, I don't know what is.
You said big cash prize.
That could be $100.
That could be...
It doesn't matter what the prize is.
I just want to stay alive.
I don't want to.
Right.
You'll never have to worry about money again for the rest of your life.
You tell the insider, if you don't keep me awake, we're both dying.
So there's a fair motivation there.
I can't believe you have experience with this ridiculous scenario.
What?
Yeah.
Like, Ricky, did you have something to add here?
Yeah, I got a quick one for you, Dan.
Okay.
Okay.
So it is this.
offseason currently.
Yeah.
A little fairy is going to come to you and say, and it's not me, and it's going to come to you
and say, the Jets are going to be the biggest team you've ever seen.
They are going to acquire every big free agent.
They are going to make blockbuster trades.
They are going to be the top of the news cycle.
Sala is at the top of his game.
Zach Wilson has developed into this amazing quarterback.
the only give that you need to do to make sure that this happens
is no longer host the Around the NFL podcast
and it's Greg who gets to host the show
and all he does is go hmm damn what do you think
and then you only get a couple sentences before he cuts you off
every day
three to four shows a week
do you take the deal
so give up the host chair
to Greg
where the Jets are the biggest
Now that's some like classic like old time
Like here's the monkey paw
To make three wishes
And he's like I want the Jets to be the biggest team ever
And then they're all giants
They're all like 50 feet tall
And it was a trick
Yeah
Is this like a monkey pox trick?
No no no this is a full blown like dynasty
Ring after ring after ring
But I still get to do the podcast
You do but it's up to you know
It's Greg coming up with the bits
And you only get a few words here and there
And he's driving the bus
Yeah.
So my position obviously remains totally unchanged.
Right.
Gotcha.
Right.
Well, you're used to that with him anyway, so.
I would take the dynasty.
You would?
I would.
Okay.
I would.
Because I think Greg would capably drive the boat, and I think that it would be fun to be in a different perspective,
and I'd probably make life more difficult for Greg, and that would be fun, too.
So that would be my choice.
And then my favorite team gets to become a dynasty?
That's kind of easy, actually.
That might become annoying on the show, by the way,
just to let you know.
Good stuff.
What is your fantasy?
El regresso.
All right, there you go.
Let's exit this world.
Let's go.
Because after a while, it starts to feel like you might not ever get out.
You know, so let's get out while we can.
You can't stay in too long.
Nobody wins in that world, so let's go back.
Some would say we did stay in too long by about 15 to 20 minutes.
But listen, we don't go in there too often.
With good reason, because it is connected to dark forces.
Okay?
But now we're out.
Connie, you've said it all.
Thank you.
This Faith American Ale by Kelsey Grammer is all I need to get by.
Make sure you share it.
Nice and cold.
Check it nice and cold.
Yep.
Thank you.
Cheers, everybody.
Anything dead?
Nope.
Are you starting to realize the folly of trading for James Hardin?
if you believe yourself to be a credible NBA championship contenders.
This is because I'm wearing a Sixers sweatshirt right now.
It is. It did remind me.
Maybe.
I, whatever.
I just wanted Ben Simmons out of there.
You got that.
Yep.
But Ben Simmons is really helping the Nets right now.
He's really been doing a lot for them.
I think he just started some light workouts again.
I got her fired up.
That's all it took.
And now he's filing, Simmons is filing a lawsuit to get the money back for not playing.
What a world.
Good.
Yeah, I don't like the Ben Simmons storyline.
All right, Mark, you two said it all, and your shirt says be kind four times.
And I think that's a good thing for everyone to try to remember.
Pulled it out of the hamper.
Beautiful.
All right, thank you, Randy Chavez, Brave Digger, Ricky Hollywood, Connie Fox, the whole gang.
We'll be back Thursday with another show.
Make sure you're here for it.
Till then, you know what to do.
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