NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Dolphins-Rams MNF Recap

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Bridget Condon to recap the Dolphins and Rams facing off on Monday Night Football. The show starts with a discussion about Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins ending their three-game losing streak (02:05) followed by a look at Matthew Stafford's play (06:20), Sean McVay's decision making (10:05), and the Dolphins' defense (14:50). After the break you get caught up on news from around the NFL including Matt Eberflus' outlook on the Bears (27:00), and Daniel Jones (34:48) and Anthony Richardson's (39:21) roles moving forward.  Note: time codes approximate.  NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First 10 dolphins from the 18-yard line with the Rams' first possession. They fake the handoff. Now they got the reverse to Malik Washington, the 10, the five. Touchdown, Miami, Miami Dolphins. Totally fooling the Rams defense, man. What a drive. What a drive. an opening drive for the Dolphins. It was a great opening drive for the Dolphins. A great play?

Not maybe a great night, but that was WBGC. Jimmy Cephalo, Joe Rose in Miami. Malik Washington, getting it done. Just three minutes into the game. We have a touchdown. We think it's going back and forth. Doesn't end up being that type of game. The Dolphins win in Los Angeles, 23 to 15.

I am here at the Chris West. podcast studio. We just raced upstairs. Maybe not race. I'm still out of breath. Just kind of waddled up the stairs from the studio where we were on in the UK doing Monday night football. I am here with Bridget Condon and congratulations Bridget, not just for doing a great job broadcasting tonight, but it's the first time you've been on the show since you were announced you were pregnant. So it's three of us here in the studio tonight. It's four. Maybe four. We'll talk about that later. I'm excited to be back.

Thank you for having me. I will say the brain diminishes a bit when you're pregnant. So bear with me here. Been a little stupid lately. Okay. But yeah, I mean, this game could also be similar to that. Let's not just, okay, it's good. We're setting low expectations early and then we jump over them.

Because I agree. We don't need to put lipstick on a pig for every game and say, Every game is a beautiful baby. This was not. But I think there were a lot of interesting takeaways from it and things that are going to matter moving forward. And we're going to talk about some of those, starting with the dolphins getting a massive win in a surprising way,

where Tua Tua is under a lot of heat, a lot of the night, take some bad sacks, but they dial up some good plays early. They overcome a bunch of turnovers because their defense plays lights out. don't give up a touchdown all night to the Los Angeles Rams. And their offense has looked awesome in the last couple of weeks. An ugly win matters more than looking good in a couple of losses. And somehow this team at 3 and 6 is only one game out in the loss column in the AFC. Look, coming into tonight's game, these were two teams going in completely different directions.

You have the Rams since they're week 6 by that had won three in a row. You have the Dolphin since their buy that had lost three in a row. and we thought after that first drive it was going to be a high scoring game of course it did not end up to be that but the Dolphins still found a way to win Tyree Kill scored a first touchdown since week one

this was not a pretty game by either team but somehow they found a way to win and when you look at them at three and six the fact that they are still in the hunt and then we can get into their schedule later but there's a real a real possibility that we could be talking

talking about a Dolphins team sneaking into the playoff. Well, at least like playing meaningful games as late as like Thanksgiving is just, you know, three weeks away. But could they win the next couple of games against the Patriots and the Raiders? Hell, let's talk to the schedule now. Why not? And get to five and six heading to that Thanksgiving game against the Packers. Make that game much more interesting.

By the way, I don't know if you've peaked at the Thanksgiving slate. It's not great. We got the Bears on Thanksgiving. We got the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Those games don't look as good. But Dolphins Packers, I think, could look better. and I think the Dolphins have a real chance because when you look at their team tonight,

it helped explain why. Yeah, Tua and the offense, especially the running game, was not as good as you would have liked to see. Their offense did not play well enough to win most weeks. But Tua was really good out of structure, surprisingly. He was five of six while throwing on the run for 79 yards. When I think of the best plays that Tua made in this game,

I think in the first drive, quick pressure by the Rams. Jared Verst was awesome all night. Tua escapes it, steps up in the pocket, rolls a little bit to his left, hits a long play to Jalen Waddle. Ends up being like the longest play they have. 36 yards, I think.

For a while in that game. They have a play later in the game where he's flushed out of the pocket on a third, an incredibly long, third in 19. He finds A. Chan for a big play that ends up leading to points at a huge moment in the game. And then also, I believe,

later in the fourth quarter after Sean McVeigh got conservative we'll get to that in a second again Tua Tua on third down is flushed out finds O'Dell Beckham in his biggest moment as a dolphin settling down in the zone

and O'Dell does a little bit of dance and I think it was a little bit of a Michael Jackson move in Los Angeles you know that felt good and they kick what ultimately was kind of the game winning field goal there so Tua creating plays where you don't expect it. That is part of his game.

We've wanted to see him improve and that could separate him being just like a decent quarterback and him being a really good quarterback on a night where, frankly, the Rams took away a lot of their usual bread and butter plays. Right. This was to his first win since week one.

When you think about it, we're already in week 10. This is his third game back after missing extended period of time because of his concussion going on IR. But, you know, those first two games, it felt like this offense still wasn't the Tua Tungo

Viloa, Mike McDaniel, Miami intensive offense that we're used to. But it kind of feels like they're working their way back to being that. I thought we would be in here tonight after this game talking about the incredible play of Matthew Stafford. He has done great these past three weeks up until tonight. And for some reason, just couldn't get things going tonight. I mean, when you look at the numbers too, it's really interesting. The Rams had more first downs. They had more yards. They had more time of possession than the dolphins. And they still lost. When you are leading in those three categories, there's a good chance that you're winning. Interesting too, I'd love to hear what Matthew Stafford and the Rams players say about the offensive line because

they have two key members back. You feel like this has got to be his best game. Well, no, he's sacked four times. They had three fumbles. There was a couple of bad snaps. He threw an interception. They finished the game with six penalties. It just felt like they, from the first drive, the Dolphins first drive, it felt like the Rams were not ready to play. Sean McVeigh just got off the podium and said that, you know, this Rams offense has been inconsistent. That's how he summarized it this after this game. And it's true.

It's true. I don't think enough people watched that Seahawks game. To me, it was very concerning. And it confirmed my priors a little bit about this Rams offense. And the offense fans who are out there and want a little more level, we'll talk a little bit more about your defense and what's happening here. But my priors on this Ram team watching them is the injury. weren't everything that's wrong

with this team that sometimes like last week he was protected pretty well and their defense was carrying them in that game their offense played a D game Stafford I think has had his worst season in a long time like I don't think

Stafford is playing at the level that he's played since he got to Los Angeles and you can say it's the offensive line you can say it's Puka and Cooper Cup but tonight and in the last few weeks I think he has been more up and down and made more bad decisions, even when he is protected than usual and missed more throws. Not that he's been bad, but that he hasn't been like top 12 level.

Okay, I want to disagree with you there because there are still moments this season where I'm like, damn, Matthew Stafford is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. We're not talking about him enough. I think there are a lot of factors that go into what you're talking about. and I think one of them you kind of alluded to earlier is the play calling. And some of these, why are we running on third down?

What were they on third down? I believe they were three for 12 on third down. And some of it was because of the decision making. And does that fall fully on Matthew Stafford? No. No. I think what you're saying is absolutely fair because he does more cool things on a weekly basis than almost any quarterback.

It's the reason he's still been on QB Island, Although Jordan Rodriguez, our friend who will be on our show going up tomorrow on Wednesday doing some awards, she saw the passive aggressive tweet I had where I put that it's okay. We can admit that this is Matthew Stafford's worst season in a long time. And she was like, I'm giving up the fight on Stafford for QB Island because she knows I wanted Stafford off QB Island last time around. And he's still doing all that cool stuff. But I just think on a play-to-play basis, if you look at his decisions, shout out to Eric Roberts behind the glass, by the way.

He's solo tonight. So he's running from his computer to like the soundboard. And when I call for a sound, he has to get up and run. So for him to make that happen, just an outstanding performance. Way more calm under pressure tonight than Matthew Stafford. Or especially Sean McVeigh, like we'll get to McVeigh. But I think the decision making, sometimes holding the ball, sometimes forcing it, sometimes getting away with bad decisions, sometimes just missing throws.

Like I said, he's not been bad. but to me he hasn't been like a big asset. And sometimes I know people don't love the PFF grades, but I'm telling you, I think it is meaningful to me that his PFF grade and it doesn't shock me and his QBR, for instance, at ESPN, they're all way lower than they've been in a long time. And PFF is supposed to adjust a little bit for situation.

And I do think on a play-to-play basis, he just hasn't been as great. I don't want him to be the focus of all of this because I think the dolphins had a good defensive plan. Do you think maybe like these two coaches know each other and somehow they knew how to mess each other up? I mean, you saw, it feels like Sean McVeigh kind of got a little like off his, I don't know, like that first drive of the game,

he kind of got like dumped with cold water because he was like, oh, that was a shock. But I do think Mike McDaniel is one of the smartest coaches in the NFL, very familiar with Sean McVe. And you could see that, I believe, through his defense tonight. And some of the plays that they were able to make. Stafford and this offense never really got going for them to not score a touchdown at home in prime time is very rare. They did not even get like past the 16th year line. How many trips to the red zone? Not a lot. Like two in what amounted to like one where he chose the field goal late

and we might as well talk about that out. And another one in garbage time. But before that, yeah, in the first half, they got so many possessions. They had seven possessions in the first half. They only got inside the red zone one time. They, in their first six drives, they had a total of three first downs and two turnovers. That alone, like a lot of times the game is over by that point. The Dolphins should have had like a 20 to three lead, but the Rams offense was bawling out so much.

They deserve credit for keeping them in there. But yes, that decision late in the game, the Dolphins get down to the Miami four-yard line, was their last line of scrimmage. The Rams get down rather to the Dolphins four-yard. yard line with 631 left in the game. Stafford missed Kyron Williams kind of coming open on the third down, even though pressure wasn't there. Those are the types of plays I'm talking about. Yeah, I give you that. Yep, that was a weird play. Kyron was wide open.

And even the play before, it was a little confusing to me who he was throwing to. Like, he got sped up today. He got sacked four times. He got hit a lot. And so sometimes that affects even the best of quarterbacks. And then McVeigh decides to kick a field goal. I hate it. I hate that decision, especially when your kicker, of course, this is a chip shot, but your kicker already missed a field goal. You are down and you're at home. Go for it.

You're down 11. So all it does is close it to 8 there. If you're closing it to 8, you're assuming... Still have to get a two-point conversion. Right. You're assuming that you're not going to give up any points the rest of the game, which to me isn't a great assumption when literally the last... You have to have a feel of the game.

The last two drives that they had given up to the dog, Dolphins were a touchdown and a field goal. One of them was on a relatively short field. But either way, it's not like the Rams defense was just absolutely shutting them down at that point. And there were two moments of the game where I thought McVe, he almost got panicked like his team. That was one of them. And then you remember after the Jonah Jackson bad snap in the third quarter? At that point, I think it was like a second and very long.

And they ran it. 20 something. And they did the Sean McVeigh thing where they run it on second and 24. four or something. They get like four yards. And it's like, okay, we got Sean, we got Matthew Stafford. We got Pooka and Akua to Marcus Robinson. Like they can make these cool plays that has Bridget saying like Matthew Stafford can

still do this stuff. And what do they throw on third and 20 like a little screen and who sees it coming? Mike McDaniel and Anthony Weaver, their defensive coordinator deserves a lot of credit. And they lock it down. And that forces the really long field goal that Cardi misses after a special team's false start, another like special teams blender. So just a lot of self-inflicted wounds. I completely agree.

And when you have young players on this team, I've been in that locker room a bunch. They always say Sean McVeigh instills this confidence in us. He believes in us. He makes us play a certain way. Well, those two plays don't instill confidence in a team. If you call that play and even you don't get it, I just think you give Matthew Stafford a chance late in the game four yards out from scoring a touchdown. We could be talking about a completely different ending because you and I were watching this game. And we kept saying, this is where they're going to score.

The Rams are going to win this game. Like the entire night, I thought for sure that the Rams were going to find a way to come back because that's what they do. But for whatever reason, it's very untypical of Sean McVeigh. Yeah, even you could tell he was a little bit on tilt because even that last drive, when it's essentially garbage time and you're trying to get the touchdown and then hit the onside kick, they were making bizarre decisions. They were running on third and one, not taking. taking timeouts when you would have expected to, keeping their timeout, and then they kick a field goal on third and 10 with like 42 seconds. This is like picking nits, but it just shows a coach that maybe isn't thinking totally clearly. Now that said, the dolphins kind of put them in that position. Let's give some shoutouts here. All right. Pick a Dolphins defensive player.

Callais Campbell. I'm going to say it. What he, I think it was the tipped pass, right? that helped lead to the interception. Couple of them, yeah. But that was one of them that. How many sacks did he have? One, but he helped with the, um, Chuck Robinson had another hurry. Yep.

Yep. Um, I mean, he was just fun to watch tonight. He was all over this Rams offense. He's a player that has completely elevated this dolphin's defense. And we talked about it like pay this man because he's a difference maker. I love it. He shows up every year as like a one year contract like hired gun. And he always ends up being.

one of the best players on the team. People thought, like, they might trade him. Like, you can't trade him. He's one of their best defensive players. I think it was a big deal for them to have Zach Seeler and him together. Seeler is one of their best players, too, on the defensive line. Chop Robinson made a couple of plays in this game. A great sack early.

I think the Rams were on tilt partly because they had big negative plays. The first play of the game on offense, Zach Seeler hit him for like a 10-yard loss on a pass completion. Chop Robinson beats Joe Noteboom early, a really nice sack. and Robinson's been coming on a little bit. When you look at this Dolphins team, the reason why I think they have a chance, A, offense travels,

and this wasn't a great performance, but they played much better the previous two weeks. It just happens to be in losses, but they played much better the previous two weeks against the Cardinals and the bills on offense. And then when you look at their defense, I didn't expect their defense to be this bad. When you look at the efficiency metrics like DVOA,

they're towards the bottom because they have players. Jalen Ramsey, He's been a little up and down this year. Kendall Fuller left this game with a concussion. That's concerning, but he's a good player. I think they have a new coaching staff on defense. Maybe the defense comes together and the offense carries them and they're at least like in the mix.

You can see it in a way that the rest of these two and three win teams coming into tonight, I can't really see it with basically all the rest of those teams. When we're talking about two and six teams, I mean, the jets are what, three and seven, the Patriots are three and seven in the AFC East. It doesn't feel like the dolphins should be in that category, but they're right around the same. And I agree to your point. They have the pieces and it'll be interesting.

Is this the game that come December we're talking about that completely turned their season around? It could. It's funny because I'm kind of talking about both sides of my mouth because I believe that they are better than all of those teams. Do I really think they're going to make the playoffs? No. Like I think the Broncos and the Bengals are better bets to make it.

But I also feel Tua is a great quarterback And, like, some of the, I don't know, some of the things he does. If he's healthy, they're off. I'm going to give him good because he's still taking some bad sacks in this game, like, where he just held on to the ball too long. He was playing like he didn't just have a concussion on that block. I was worried for him, yes, on one of the, that was an interception return. Right.

And he lowered his head to try to make a tackle. I held my breath. And I don't think they even checked him for that. And he started making some bad plays. I couldn't have been the only one who was thinking afterwards, like, I hope this man is okay. Yeah, on a night where Waddle only ends up with 57 yards, Tyreek Hill, who tells Lisa Salters before the game,

that he had torn ligaments in his wrist and that it was aggravated by his arrest when he was put on the ground there, which is just a crazy story. And he's been out of practice. He was a game-time decision for this game and three catches for 16 yards. just a lot going on with this Dolphins team,

but they're getting great play out of their left tackle Taran Armstead. I think their offensive line had a pretty disappointing night overall and that the Rams won that battle. The Rams now at four and five. And yes, Odell, with a nice moment. You know, just because we spent so much time in the off season talking about Odell Beckham, you know, our regular listener, Nick Wright, got on me for just always talking about Odell.

It was for moments like this, a moment that turned a season around. It's an empty backfield, trips to the left. Back to throw, Tua, looking, rolling to his left. Rowland throws it, and it's caught by Beckham, and he's got the first out, I think. Yeah, he does. He had it by a bunch. The dance moves. That was huge.

That was a really great play by Tua, by the way, rolling out. He was under a lot of pressure like he was all night. He looked, he had moments of looking good tonight, for sure. If he doesn't make that play, the Rams are getting. the ball back. Although the way the Rams offense played tonight, they probably would have just gone down and kicked a field goal. Kicked on third down. So there you have it.

Odell Beckham actually making it happen. River Craycraft returned for this game. I just thought like Dolphins fans were happy about that, made a nice block. Like they're just getting getting people back. I know I'm getting to the bottom of the notes when I get to the River Craycraft of it all.

I mean, look, you have the Raiders, you have the Patriots. Let's see what we can make of this season. How about the Rams here? four and five, really disappointing loss. It's the tricky part of falling to one and four is you just have such less of a margin for error. If you had said then they're going to win three out of the next four games, you'd say like, oh, that's pretty good.

Okay, get to four and five. But having won the three straight, it's really disappointing. They have the Patriots next week. Which is actually a really fascinating game after Drake May and the Patriots just come off a win against the Bears. Yes. Which is interesting because now Drake May, I don't know.

Like, people are buying into him. It wasn't Drake May sacked nine times. It was Caleb Williams. It's an interesting game, absolutely. I don't think the Rams are good enough right now to just assume they're going to win any game. They have to go across the country on a, you know, short week. So that's not easy.

They're certainly the favorites in that game. But I just think, like you said with McVeigh, after the game, saying like they haven't been consistent, he's worried. I think that Seahawks game was, just a little bit of a worry because if you think about what they've done since the bi-week,

that Raiders game, they were awful on offense. Their defense carried them. Now, granted, they didn't have Pooka and Akua back. And so you're thinking, okay, we're not totally back there, but it was a really bad

offensive performance. Then you have the one Thursday night game and you think everything's fine. We're solved. It's good. You get the offensive linemen back tonight, but when you really look at it, the last two weeks,

they were pretty just not right on offense. And maybe it's working out the kinks. It's like they're in their preseason getting these guys back in the mix, but they don't have much time to waste. Four and five in the NFC is not the same as the AFC. It is going to be very difficult for them to get a wild card in the NFC. So it's probably division or bust for these NFC West teams who play each other a lot down the stretch. Yeah, it's just going to be a test.

You know, Sean McVeigh, remember that bad season he had two seasons ago and how on himself he was? Like, I know that he's probably going to the office right now. Like, he's not going home to sleep. Like, I saw him a little bit in his press conference. You could just tell he's pissed off. And you go on Twitter right now. Everybody's talking about Sean McVeigh and his coach. Well, hopefully he's not.

Hopefully he's not. Well, hopefully maybe he gets a peep of it. And he's in the lounge studying tonight because there were a couple questionable decisions that were made tonight. And you now have a chance to either fall into another trap against the Patriots on Sunday in New England, or you get a win, then you host the Eagles, which is not going to be an easy game. But then you're at the Saints. So you could go, you could win two out of the next three. Absolutely. But you got the bill still on the schedule. You got the 49ers. You finish with

Jets, Cardinals, Seahawks. You could win. Those are winnable. The Niners, they always play close. It's a normal schedule. I wouldn't say it's overly hard or difficult, but they are right there in the middle of the NFL. Find some consistency. Figure out why it's been inconsistent. Get back to the drawing board. It's a long season. And, yeah, I don't think Sean McVeigh is going to be easy on himself. But at his very core, he's sneaky, conservative. Him and Kyle Shanahan have that in terms of their play calling, in terms of their game management, there is a core conservatism,

which is surprising to me. Jordan, our friend, I think, said it well. The thing about this Rams offense is there will be a lot of simple, seemingly avoidable things that go wrong. And then all of a sudden, they'll do the most difficult thing imaginable and make it look effortless. That really sums it up. They do the hard things well,

and sometimes they don't do the easy things. The running game not working tonight, but the Dolphins defense deserves a ton of credit, and I know Tua Tua has to be thrilled. His first win in the starting lineup since week one, they have a little life in this dolphin season. We're going to listen to Tua, and then we're going to take a break. Oh, good, Bella.

It felt good. And I think it's, you know, a testament to the character of this team. We've come a long way through however many losses in a row, the resilience of this team with the external noise, everyone counting us out. You know, hopefully this is an opportunity for us to not waste. You know, hopefully we can go on a run with this win and find our rhythm towards the back end of this season now. Hey, this is Matt Jones. And this is NFL cover zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.

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and they said that's where our podcast, NFL Daily tapes. The late night shift. Shift. Welcome back to NFL Daily. On your drive home, make sure to roll up the windows and turn up the volume because we're talking NFL on the late night shift. Oh, we got to do this.

I feel like I should be in a radio booth late night. Have you ever done that? No. You've done a lot of interesting things in your career. It wouldn't surprise me. Maybe this is the beginning of Late Night Home with Bridget Condon. Let's break down what we just saw from the Rams and Dolphins. Make sure to call in.

Caller number one. Thanks, Tua Tungo Vailoa's taking his team to the Super Bowl. Fall in love or break your heart next on the postgame show. I love the energy. I'll work on it. I was a little worried about you, Bridgett, because we put in a long date, you're eating for two now. I thought you were going to say because of my parasite. I wasn't going to bring it up.

I'm trying to be polite on the air, but wow. I'm carrying for three. me, myself, my baby, and I have a parasite. Breaking news here. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where I got it, guys. I don't know what's going on. Los Angeles County.

Beware, there's some things walking around this, walking around me and walking around the water fountains. Yeah, I was going to make that joke, but, you know. It's okay. I'm an open book. People got a, anything you want to know about me, I got you. I have a parasite.

We're doing well. me baby and parasite. Yeah, my first question when you told me that, you know, as I'm eating dinner during our Monday Night Football Bar, I was like, that's not contagious, is it? Like, I guess we'll find out. No, I'm just kidding. I finished my antibiotics. I'm fine.

Yeah, hopefully. Fingers crossed. Shout out to. No, it was my birthday last week. So it was just like a little happy birthday, Bridget. I mean, I was truly asking about your newborn to be. So like, that's the more exciting news. That's the more exciting.

to the Kondin family. The parasite's only going to be with you so long, unfortunately. Oh, that's sad. It doesn't stay with me for nine months. Okay, back to football. Let's do some news. Let's talk about Matt Eberflus and what's been going on in Chicago. He had a press conference on Monday where he announced there will be changes.

There will be changes. Adjustments being made. Again, I'm not going to disclose those right now. I'm not at that point in the process. You know, Monday's a long day, you know, in terms of the evaluation of everything, you know, in terms of, you know, lineups in terms of the, you know, coaching, in terms of how we need to do better, you know, in that coaching and how we need to do better in a communication in game during the game, after the game, prior to the game.

So it's important that we take time to make those decisions and make the right decisions that's for the Bears. Matt Eberfluse says there will be changes. I don't want to go on too long about it because I have a feeling those changes will be announced by the time plenty of people hear that. It's pretty easy to surmise that an offensive coordinator change could be part of those changes. Caleb Williams being the starting quarterback will not be part of those changes. That should go without saying, but someone did ask him that. So we'll see.

Maybe there's some personnel changes, like a benching, some of those receivers and the routes that they run. If I'm Shane Waldron, I'm concerned. I mean, your quarterback sacked nine times. You're one for 14 on third down. I'd hope there's some changes. Like, you're not going to change. You're four and five after starting promising. The NFC North is a very good division.

You can be competitive. You just got to make some changes. And that's the, yeah, I mean, they've lost three consecutive games after their buy, haven't scored a touchdown in two straight games. Yeah. Yeah. Let's have some changes. Right. Yeah, multiple things can be true. Like, the expectations were too high in Chicago to begin with.

And that market had this weird thought that this team was going to be a juggernaut because they're on hard knocks, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, no, maybe your third place in the division, probably not in terms of total talent, you know, compared to Minnesota coming into the season. I don't know why expectations should have been hard. Now, that said, the tape they have put out offensively over the last two weeks is some of the worst tape any offense has put out in the last couple of years. And so that speaks to a dysfunction that is bigger than just Shane Waldron or Matt Iberfluse.

It's everything. There's so many problems. And I don't know if Ibrufluz is the man to solve it. His exchanges in Chicago are becoming increasingly uncomfortable. But he had one on ESPN radio in the morning. It was Cap and Jay Hood on ESPN. Chicago that was uncomfortable to the point of being comical. If this isn't crisis, I don't know what it is.

So I ask you again, is this a crisis that's going on right now in Hallis Hall? And how does it get addressed? You know, we're looking at this week and this week only. We do have evidence on tape that we've played good football during the course of this year. We've got to pull on those experiences. Coach Coach your cell phone's as bad as the offense right now Put them on hold and see if we can reinstab

Oh, come on man This is 2024 Can we get a freaking landline? What are we doing? Seriously Get the man a phone that works, please we'll try to reestablish with Mattie refluse momentarily here on the

I'm serious cap and Jayhood morning show that cap you're not wrong communication issues prevalent all season for the football team I mean his phone lines is bad as Waldron's play calling I mean what are we doing wow I've got a couple thoughts right off the bat have you ever been on a conversation with someone

like an ex-girlfriend when she's like asking you about, you know, where you were last night and you just pretend that the call drops? Was it, like, you mean when I was actually, when she was my girlfriend? I don't, I don't regularly speak with my ex-girlfriends on the phone. I mean, like, when you were in high school or something.

Oh, okay. Didn't pretend, like, the call drop. No, I don't think I'm good enough to pull that off. I just would, like, not answer. Like, was this an actual call dropped or he was like, I'm not going down this route. I'm just going to stop.

That is hilarious, and that would be amazing. And I would give Matt Iberflus more credit if that was the case, because that was actually the third time his phone dropped, apparently, in the conversation. He had to call back a couple times. Spoiler alert, he did not call back after that. And based on how that ended, I would guess he is never calling back and doing that hit ever again. And when Matt Auberflus is the ex-girlfriend of the Chicago Bears, which unfortunately is going to be either after this week or after this season, that moment right there is going to be remembered because I'm going to bring it up. But I think locally, like, I've seen this enough.

That moment is like, oh, you're done. Like, I know that sounds stupid. It's just like a radio thing, but it's like you're not coming back from this and it kind of sucks to have just like when you're a dead man walking. Well, it's interesting. Yes, that could be an issue too. But the players themselves talking about how frustrating this season has been, running back DeAndre Swift said essentially, like, he was asked about what's going on. He's like, well, we can't be good on Sundays if we're not good Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. So it feels like there's something going on during practice or they're not all. I think he used the word focusing enough, which, whose fault is that?

I don't know. Right. It's one of the things I think is amazing about football that it's sort of inexplicable and yet you can see it on the field. like that Saints team, they didn't really want to play for Dennis Allen. And even in a game where they outgained the Panthers by like 170 yards, and even with the Bears' defense playing well, there is something that you can't define about a collection of these 53 men

that somehow actually comes out on Sundays, and you can see it with this Bears team, they're not coming back. Like the line is six and a half against the Packers this weekend. I can tell you, like that line's going to grow. Take it now. There's no freaking way the bears are staying within a touchdown of the Packers on Cindy. Like, they're done.

They've been done. And like the film that they are putting up says it all. Not on defense, really, but on offense. Like Roma Dunzei and DJ Moore and Keenan Allen should not be running like the routes that they're running. They're just kind of out there playing when you watch them. Like it's all very weird is I guess the word I would use. Isn't it interesting when you talk about. a professional athlete, though, that like, for whatever reason, except it didn't happen with the Jets,

it feels like the interim head coach win, right? Like, whenever you fire someone, it's like the next week. Oh, yeah, that's the bounce. We bond together and we, it's like, well, why can't you do that every week? I don't get it. It's a fair point. It's kind of human nature. It's one of the reasons why in hindsight, maybe the dolphins were always dangerous coming into this game, because a lot of times when I've picking games and stuff, it's like, which team just needs it more? Like, the two teams are relatively even, but like this game is bigger for, for the dolphins. That team, a lot of times that team comes out and they play like it. And I think that did happen on Monday night, not to bring it back to that game.

All right, let's move on in the news. We got to get Bridget home to her wonderful husband and her parasite. It's got to go to that. Yeah, she's getting sleepy. Get me off this desk before we have an emergency. Let's talk about Brian Dable, who essentially ended the Daniel Jones era without officially ending the Daniel Jones era. Is Daniel Jones still your starting quarterback going forward?

Yeah, we're going to spend a lot of time here watching our tape and evaluating things. And we'll do that as a coaching staff over the next week here. That's a little bit different, Brian, than the yes that you give us to that question when we ask it every week. So I think to be clear, everybody's going to assume that means, yes, you're at least considering a change. Is that fair? Well, I would say we're evaluating, you know, our team at the by week is what we're doing. I don't know if I'm going to ever have a legacy as a podcaster, as an analyst. But one thing I think I've helped to contribute to the conversation is that when a coach says we're evaluating on a Monday, that that quarterback is getting.

benched on a Tuesday. It's 100 for 100, and no one ever wants to report it at the time. And we did this a couple weeks ago with Anthony Richardson. I said when they said he was evaluating it on Monday, he's getting benched. It's to the point now where people are just tweeting it for me. My friend Bill Barnwell said, that's Greg Rosenthal's music playing when Brian Dable had that answer. So yes, it's over. The Daniel Jones era is over. Drew Locke, I assume, will be the quarterback and not Tommy DeVito after the bye week. Well, okay, you're evaluating. What have you been doing the past six years? Well, I mean, he hasn't been there the whole time.

No, no, no. But like the giant, Daniel Jones has been there six years. Yeah. Give me the stats of the consistency over the past six years. It was just the second half of 2022, which happened to be when his contract came up. And I personally always believe that Brian Dable was lukewarm at best about that contract. And that was an ownership move. But this happened so long ago.

Yeah. Why is it taking this long? Yeah. No, you're right. I think self-scouting is the most... It's the mistake that bad organizations make more than any other that people don't talk about enough. If you can't evaluate your own players and which ones to invest in, then you're done. The Giants were shut out in the first half on Sunday in Munich by the league's worst defense.

I'm not just just saying that to be dramatic. 32. They are ranked 32 out of 32. panthers defense and the giants were shut out by them and you're evaluating your court right now that's not even bridget talking that's her parasite look it's like i love it you're you're mad now i just don't get it why it's like there are certain things that we talk about every day that drive me crazy yeah why are we still talking about the cowboys why are why are why is i love daniel jones look i co i covered him at duke when i was in north carolina

Humble Brack. Humble Brack. Great guy. Love him. Amazing person. I wish nothing but the best for him. But unfortunately, I don't believe that he should be the starting quarterback for the professional football team, New York Giants.

Yeah. I agree. I also think the worst thing that you can say about Daniel Jones at this point about his NFL career is he's a nice guy. Everyone says that about Daniel Jones. They're like, he's a nice guy. Unfortunately. Maybe if he was in a better position, but look, he's not.

But the Giants in part did he. him dirty by even giving him the contract. It never made any sense. That was the original sin and they've been stuck on it for a couple of years. It didn't make sense at the time. Also, he's coming off a torn ACL and he's worse than he was before. I think he should take his money, buy a house in the cabin, like buy a house in the mountains and just like...

No, I think what he needs to be is a backup quarterback on like a McVeigh team and he'll end up coming in on some Thursday night football game and playing a couple games and playing fairly well and maybe have some fun playing football again. He's a perfectly fine backup quarterback. And that's what he'll be next year. I would look. He's better than Drew Locke. That's the problem.

His Drewlock is terrible. Put in Tommy DeVito. It's Tommy time. I want to see what his mom's been cooking. Like, give me some entertainment, giants. That could happen, I think, by the end of the season. Let's wrap just in terms of quarterbacks with Shane Steichen. He did insist that Joe Flacco is our quarterback moving forward

for now. He did kind of... Can you explain this to me? Joe Flacco, one and three as the starter. Two and two Richardson, I believe. Flacco, three interceptions,

four sacks. Yeah, it's gotten as badly as it could. That was what Stuyckis said. Is it because he tapped his hat and said, take me out? How much of an impact does that have? I'm going to actually listen to Shane Steichen,

talk about Anthony Richardson, and him probably, possibly even having a role just on the offense at all and I think this answer speaks to something that will answer your question.

You guys have struggling short yardage with Joe is there a thought to put Anthony in there what has kept you from using Anthony in a short yardage package? Yeah, I won't get into the scheme stuff of it but yeah, obviously he would help there. Okay.

Now I'm trying to like weed through things here but obviously he would help there after two weeks where he hasn't been helping there They haven't used them at all. Obviously, he helped, but we're not doing it. Would support the conspiracy theory in Indianapolis that hasn't been overtly reported. So I don't think it's fair to say it's a report. But it also checks out.

And a lot of fans believe it and maybe some media people do too, that this is not Shane Steichen's move because Shane Steichen all along said, we're going to leave Anthony Richardson in higher dry, like we want them to be in there. in that maybe it's not Shane Sikin's decision. Now, I personally don't believe there's any chance it's the front office's decision. So whose decision is it? From the very top.

That ownership gets involved with decisions this important. And they want to penalize him for what he did, making them look. Well, they just want to get to the playoffs. And maybe that there was an angle of the players being upset with Richardson that contributed it. But that he thinks that we need cameras in the locker room. Right.

that we have a roster. We need the reality show in front of us because I want to know the real juice of what's going on in the Colts locker. I mean, him saying he could help in short yardage. It almost sounds like Shane Steichen is stuck there

and can't actually decide, which wouldn't be the first time it's ever happened. Johnny Mansell was playing quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in what year was at 2014. Andrew Hawkins, our old colleague and friend, you know,

has told the story publicly because, you know, it was told to the coach staff he had to play, even though Brian Hoyer was the better quarterback. And in this case, I think it was more that they thought Flacko gave him a better chance to win, and they're just not winning,

so they're getting the worst of both worlds. I think we will see Richardson sooner than later, but Joe Flacko will get another chance against a pretty bad Jets defense. So they do have a chance to win this week. Moving forward, we're just going to roll through a couple very quick stories. I thought it was interesting. The Seahawks waved their

starting linebacker, Tyler Dodson, today, who is a big free agent pickup. they signed two guys for pretty good money in the offseason, Jerome Baker and Tyler Dodson. He started every game and played almost every snap so far this season and they cut him after nine weeks. Just interesting. Makes you wonder, where are those cameras?

What's going on? In this case, I actually believe Mike McDonald is the one with a strong hand here as a coach. Maybe that was his signing. Maybe it wasn't. Probably not. And he explained the thought very clearly, I think. And I think it's a case where he's like, I know what's

not working. This is not working. I want play some younger players. We brought in Ernest Jones. Self-scouting. Yes. And so he's making some decisive move, but that's crazy. You bring in two starting linebackers and a guy who's played every staff for you is gone week 9-10. They're in a fascinating spot. Alex Highsmith, the Steelers,

edge rusher is going to miss two or three weeks, according to reports. That's a big loss for them. He's very valuable. Tristan works. One thing I regretted to mention on the Sunday night recap show, the great tackle for the Bucks, had an MCL sprain in that game. The MRI

confirmed it. He is week to week. Man, that team has really been devastated with injuries. Just a couple random QB news. The Browns are sticking with James Winston. The Cowboys are sticking with Cowboy Cooper Rush. Cowboy Rush, baby. I apologize to you for doing that game. But everyone should check out MJD and Bridget on the Channel 5 coverage of Monday Night Football next week.

And Nick Shook and I on our podcast version. We're going to make it fun. But Texans, Cowboys in primetime next week. And finally, it'll be good because they don't need to worry about the sun in prime time. What a great host you are. I don't even know if that was intentional. But our last item of news is, yes, the Cowboys versus the Sun. I just wanted to show you some of the pictures that were out there from their press conference on Monday.

This is from Jonah Javid on Twitter. And it actually shows Mike McCarthy, who was at the podium. and the sun was getting in his eyes. So you know what the Cowboys did and the media did? They set up a little shade to block the sun. You can't make this up. You really can't. Like, there are multiple photos of it.

It is the office. This is hilarious. This is something you watch on TV. This is why the NFL is the best reality show on television, because this is clowning. It's funny. Is this real? It is absolutely real.

And I love, one thing I will give Mike McCarthy a ton of credit for, you know, he's having to answer questions about these Michael Parsons comments, which weren't great. And you could interpret them a few different ways. We don't need to get them into it on this podcast. And there's all sorts of stuff. It's going, he knows the score. And he handles it, Mike McCarthy, about as well, I think, as anyone could. And he even made a joke about that.

He was like, oh, like, what are we in the stadium there? He makes a little joke about it. So, like, Mike McCarthy, he's always doing it with a wink and a smile. Like, he's in the last year of his contract, and he's still cashing them checks. Absolutely. And get an umbrella while you're at it. That is it for the news. It is now time for the captain's corner presented by Captain Morgan.

Bridget, this is where we give some love to someone who excelled over the weekend. Who do you got? All right. So I had a little trouble with my pick because. you'll understand why. I don't like to give it to somebody who lost, but in this case, I had to. I had to.

I'm going with Jemar Chase. I know the Bengals lost to the Ravens, but any time you have a player rack up more than 55 fantasy points, how can he not be your captain of the week? Not totally his fault they lost either. He said it. I was open when they went for it on the two-point conversion and it fell incomplete.

He said he was open. 264 yards, three touchdowns, 11 for 17. Look, I know the Bengals are four and six. but I'm not ready to write them off. I am not ready. And maybe I've been too high on them because they were my Super Bowl pick, them and the Packers, I know.

You never know. Sometimes it's that season. You start out four and six and then it's a magical run. That's how they kind of made it the last time they made the Super Bowl. They got the Chargers this week here at SoFi Sunday night

going to be a big game. But Jamar Chase, you know, he played lights out Thursday night. I love that pick. I love his comment. how he was open on the two-point play I love everything

about Jamar and Chase actually I have a take related to that comment that I'm going to save for our awards podcast. Is he one of your... We'll see.

Bridget Condon is going to be involved. She is stepping in, very excited. We're going to go through all the big awards. As long as the parasite doesn't kill me in my sleep. Yeah, as long as the parasite

doesn't take you out, you're going to be here with Jordan. We'll make up some awards of our own. That's going to be a really show Wednesday. So let's get out of here. I don't need to honk anymore. My captain is going to be Tyrant Matthew, one of the captains of the Saints and Cam Jordan.

Let's just give it to them both. These two guys are two of my favorite defensive players of the last 10 years. Through comments that they had after the Dennis Allen firing, I think they were relieved maybe by the change, that they needed a vibe change, that they needed a scheme change. And for Cam Jordan to have a monster sack that helped change that game against the Falcons, and then in the crucible, Falcons driving.

Kirk Cousins moving the ball down the field and who steps in for a crucial interception late in the fourth quarter. It's the Honey Badger. It's the future Hall of Famer. He's been doing that his whole career

for the two of them to have big moments in this particular game to get a win. I don't think they're going anywhere but this was kind of their Super Bowl against the Falcons. They are my captains this week.

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but I know you well enough that, no, you're avoiding like deli meats and stuff. You're, you're serious about it. I'm serious and I'm serious about this football. I got to go home and get study going. Let's... Because we got a big show tomorrow, maybe. Let's get out of here. I already teased our Wednesday show. So you're going to know all about it.

Really excited for that. For Jordan Rodriguez, for Eric Roberts behind the glass. Did you just call me Jordan Roderig? Oh, my gosh. Well, that's tomorrow. That's a compliment. That's a huge compliment. Maybe I sound...

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