NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - DON'T SAY 'SUPER BOWL': Quarterback case files + Tom Brady retires (again)

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, and Gregg Rosenthal react to Tom Brady's second retirement announcement exactly one year after his first retirement announcement (0:00). Tom Curran joins to discuss Brady's career (11:37) before the gang tries to predict the opening box office numbers for "80 for Brady," which opens this weekend (27:11). Then, the heroes try to piece together all the evidence surrounding various quarterbacks in order to crack the case and predict where they'll play in 2023, including Daniel Jones (35:32), Aaron Rodgers (38:57), Jimmy Garoppolo (45:40), Jacoby Brissett (48:15), Derek Carr (51:05), and Ryan Tannehill (57:32). Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. This is the draft report on you. And we condense this a little bit. And basically it goes, you know, Tom Brady, poor build. That might be accurate. I would probably agree. Skinny, lacks great physical stature and strength, and gets knocked down easily. Well, that kind of gets me fired up because I'm thinking, you know, what the hell of these people know?

The Around the NFL podcast will not say Super Bowl today. No, we will not. Although, ironically, we're talking about the man who won more of those than anyone else. And that a challenge. More challenge from the Chris Wesleying podcast studio. It's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis, Greg Rosenthal. That was Mark Sessler, you heard there.

And yes, that was, you know, two of the actually legends to me anyway of being a football fan. There's Steve Sable, who really of NFL films, who really taught a whole generation of fans a better way to watch football interviewing. Of course, Tom Brady, who on February 1st, 2003, one year to the day after he made his first retirement announcement. does it again. Here is what Brady had to say in an Instagram message that Jim Gray had nothing to do with. Good morning, guys. I'll get to the point right away. I'm retiring for good. I know the process was a pretty big deal last time. So when I woke up this morning, I figured I just press record and let you guys know first. So I won't be long-winded. You only get one super emotional retirement essay

and I used mine up last year. So I really thank you guys so much to every single one of you for supporting me. My family, my friends, my teammates, my competitors. I could go on forever, there's too many. Thank you guys for allowing me to live my absolute dream. I wouldn't change the thing. Love you all.

Unbelievable, Tom Brady. Seven, seven championships. Oh. Didn't say it. Didn't say it. Some did, though. So I don't know if that's a penalty. Seven championships,

but obviously the big storyline coming out of this, Gregi, as we go through this again, is if you're not breaking this on the Let's Go podcast with Jim Gray, why does that podcast exist? Now I throw it to you. I hate to admit that's one of the first things that crossed my mind.

Jim Gray is mad. Although Jim Gray did get some pop on NFL Network as a guest on NFL now, I believe, yesterday. That's why he's got the star. Fair trading. Fair trade in. But no matter what, Tom Brady and the Let's Go podcast, they're not going to top us. He's coming after us. I love the way he did this, though, with no fanfare.

You could hear the emotion in his voice after what we went through last year. And you said, Dan, you wanted to make a promise that we won't. Oh, if he comes out of retirement again, which is, by the way, not unheard of. These great players waffle a lot. I don't think it happens, but we're not doing this again. Not again. Last year. We're doing it this year because he is the goat.

But this is it. He's used up his lives. Right. And we're going to talk to Tom Curran, my old colleague over at Pro Football Talk at NBC. He was now at NBC Sports Boston as Chronicle. career. And he wrote a little bit about this, but I did think this was kind of the perfect note for a guy who came into the league as unknown as possible for a Michigan quarterback and then turned into one of the most famous people in America. And I enjoyed the simplicity

of it as a fan. And as a fan, I have to admit, I'm relieved. I didn't want to see him play anymore. The whole reason why I wanted the Patriots or thought it was a good move to get rid of him back in 2019 was I thought, man, I just think it'd be depressing to ever see him have a decline. And then what did he do? He went and won a Super Bowl. He, I think, should have won the MVP just one season ago. We saw that decline start for only one season. And I'm glad for him that he's moving on now. Yeah, I think like I've obviously, like all of us, just been thinking about kind of the impact he's had on not just our careers, but long before I worked here, Tom Brady was sort of just woven into the fabric is the heartbeat of so many different football seasons.

And it's like if you were 30 years old, if you're 30, you don't remember the beginning of his career probably. You were too young. If you're our age, he's been part of football forever, two decades plus. And I just think about the fact that now, and that message that he, I love the way he delivered that, that we're moving into the phase of Tom Brady, the person, beyond Tom Brady the player. And Tom Brady, the player was always someone who I think found a way. I mean, now we're bathed in this historical view of looking back on what he did. And, like, that comeback against the Falcons, we were there in person, to me, signifies who he was, that, like, being down by that much, by 25 points, to him was an opportunity.

To other people, it'd be like, we give up. Like, he's someone that just never gave up. And I think now, I just, I've thought about him more than I think about, like, George Washington. Like, he's a historical figure. He's someone that just is created part of our culture. T.W. takes a stray in a big spot. But you're right. Am I wrong?

I get what you mean. Before the 2000 draft, though, before the 2000 draft, you could not get marked to shut up about GW. And now it's like, was he even a president? I don't know. Right. I think with Brady, too, like, I totally get how he played this because it was so hard to walk away last year. I think there were obviously outside pressures, perhaps, playing a role. We know his personal life, the way everything played out in such a public way he got divorced during the season.

and he was coming off a season where he was great. And like Greg said, he could have easily been named MVP. He was atop, the leaderboard or near the top in every relevant statistical category. He comes back. He finishes out the contract and he clearly wasn't the same guy this year. And yes, he could have absolutely gotten another starting job this offseason. We connected him to the Raiders like everyone else, maybe just the most recent show. We talked about, we're at the Niners now that Brock Purdy has a serious

elbow injury. And it is like, I'm kind of thankful. Even as a Jets fan who never liked watching Tom Brady dominate, I, A, we'll look back and be grateful that we were in person for this legendary athlete, some of his greatest moments. And B, we don't get the super sad season because this past season kind of bordered on that, but it didn't quite get there, but you worry that if you, the sad, you know, sitting on the bench, heads, head down, wearing a Raiders uniform after getting benched, We don't have to worry about seeing that. I hope not anyway. Yeah, I mean, I think it felt like this was the season where,

and even against the Cowboys in those final minutes, like Tom Brady was like, he probably knew in his heart that was the end. And he still just is out there doing Tom Brady stuff, no matter that game being totally over. He seemed to have the joy stripped from him this season a little bit. It just felt a little different to me. But it's so hard to go out as a quarterback gracefully, and he's done that. Right.

Tom pointed out this quote, he said, back in 2014 when people thought he was maybe kind of nearing the end that was that season where they started out slowly and he said when I suck I'll retire but I don't plan on sucking for a long time and he didn't suck this year he was like an average NFL

starting quarterback but for him I think that was a definition and that Cowboys game was pretty close to me to that moment as a fan of Brady just seeing him in that game was tough but I was working out a column yesterday that'll come out during the Super Bowl just like an offseason type of column what each team needs

to do and I flip on NFL network yesterday and they have the Super Bowl against the Rams and I happen to turn it on right as that final drive was starting you know shout out to J.R. Redman by the way. Getting out of balance. Oh my twice. Somebody said

twice. I can't believe it. I haven't been punished in this exercise in years. What is the punishment? Here is the punishment. I want everyone to know we have yet to make our donation to a local Jacksonville let's say food bank but it could be anything and assert the charity cause every time you say it it's five bucks added to your uh contribution let's go 50

i mean oh you're getting there buddy you're already up to 10 i like gregg being punished yeah oh saucy go ahead greggie so i'm watching that game i can't believe i blew it i'm not i really you'll do it again it's in your head now um yeah the jr redmond getting out of bounds this this whole thing might not happen if that doesn't happen Troy brown route of his life but just the com Brady had in that two-minute drill reminded me a lot of games this year because that year he was not one of the better quarterbacks in the league. He was maybe not, he was around an average starting quarterback. But when the chips were down in the big moments at the end of the game, he was so calm and knew how to manage everything around me. And I'm watching this game,

and it's, it's Summerall announcing it no longer with us. It's John Madden telling them not to go to overtime. Go for it. Say go for overtime. He's no longer with us. The game's not H.D. Paul Tagliabu, who's not our commissioner, is handing the trophy to Robert Kraft with Myra Kraft right next to her. Unfortunately, no longer with us. Steve Belichick is on the stage there. He's a kid. He's a kid. It's in the months after September 11th. They're there in New Orleans. And as someone who had lived there, I'm thinking like, this is before Hurricane Katrina even happened. Richard Seymour is there. Hogan Brady at the end. He's younger than Brady. he was a rookie on that team.

He's now like in the Hall of Fame. A grandfather. Everything about it. It was just like a completely different era of our lives and of football. And Brady was there for all of it. It was my favorite sports fan experience. I lived out here in L.A. I would watch every game with a couple of buddies.

One was a big Patriots fan and being out here watching that game. I'm just thinking, like, that was just a totally different time. And yet, at the end of that game, that same, like, thing that made him special to go win that game was still here at 46, winning these Bucks games. He tied his all-time record for a game winning drives in a season this season with five. Like, that was still there. He's just the, he's the best winner of all time. Yep, absolutely. And, yeah, you're mentioning all these people that are no longer with us.

I mean, it was nearly a quarter century ago. That's how long he played at this highest level, obviously played longer than anyone ever had that wasn't a kicker. He was at the Janet Jackson halftime fiasco. He was there. He's been everywhere. He was there. You know who wasn't there? George Washington.

Exactly. Hack. You know who took no responsibility for any of that? Who? Justin Timberlake. Got him. I was going to say, George Washington. Yeah.

All right. You mentioned Tom Curran. He is Pat's insider for NBC Sports Boston He's covered the Patriots since 97 So he's been there The whole way through with Tom Brady Tom Curran

Welcome back to around the NFL How are you, sir? Fremendous, thanks for having me. How's everybody? Good to see you, Tom. We used to work together, Tom and I Back in the day over at NBC. Tom gave me a lot of grief.

He's like the funniest guy I know in the biz. Get out. Don't you? Who's your? comedian friend i'm not the funniest guy you know i said well in the sports business it is a it is a common thing like our friend dave damashek likes to say everyone thinks they're funny but no one but tom curran with the one liners um well now there's a lot of pressure on tom you say that after the conversation like this just once again a reminder of how funny tom is but now tom has to perform

him drop some bombs in a way uh mr curran thank you so much for joining us and uh you know What was your first reaction when you saw, you woke up or you saw the Instagram post that he was walking away? First of all, did you buy it this time? And B, did it strike the right notes for you? I did buy it. First reaction was, there goes another day, sacrificed at the altar of Tom Brady for the course of 25 years.

I mean, you know how many times it has happened, whether it's the Wells report, you're on your way to the golf course, whether it name it. I can chronicle times in my life when I've been, which is that. In 2010, he had a car accident right before the opener. You guys remember that?

Oh, yeah. He's in the midst of a contract negotiation, and Kraft immediately ran over to his house and gave him the biggest contract in the NFL. That was another one. But that was my initial reaction. And I really didn't leap to see what the announcement was. I'm not an early riser.

So it was around 8.45. I go, what's this going to be? But it did strike, in my estimation, the right notes. And the column I wrote guys was basically that this was a Spartan announcement that was self-aware enough for a guy who seemingly has become less and less self-aware as he's embraced his brand and self-promotion over the last few years in a way he never had before. He kind of seemed to realize that I can't make this a brand ploy. I can't make this a marketing ploy. I can't be overwrought with this. Let's just say it what it is and move on.

So I thought it was good. and it struck the right notes in my estimation. I loved what you wrote. And I think that there were obviously a billion columns being produced yesterday about the numbers he compiled and all that jazz. But you talked about Tom Brady, the man. And after that Spartan comment, I just want to read something that you put in your column. You said, you know, during that announcement,

he was just a guy who looks tired and bummed out with a lot in his mind. Undoubt it. Understandably, it's complicated. Brady belongs to America, but he somehow seems to have become a man without a country. Like, who is Tom Brady the man going forward? I mean, you've been around them more than anyone. Like, what's your impression of who he is and who he becomes at this point? I think he's initially, he's a very, he's a very closed guy whose family is extremely important

to him and he wants to have an enjoyable experience on the earth and do as many things as he possibly can. And I think in embracing those things, especially after he left the Patriots, he kind of drank heavy from the chalice of everything. And now he's realized, okay, I have an ex-wife in Miami, maybe or maybe not. I'm not sure if his kids are exactly there specifically or not. I'm guessing they are. Then he has a son in New York and parents in San Francisco.

He made his mark here in New England. He was here for 20 plus years. He probably has property in Tampa. So he's everywhere. And his family is scattered. His parents were very important to approach in their 80s. His kids are into their tweens. And all of you guys, I don't know how old you all respectively are,

but the ages of 35 to 45 for men can be very challenging because so much is changing so fast and the milestone portions of your life have kind of passed. And you're trying to find what the hell am I doing now with my life? I've finished coaching my kids. We've already gotten married. and looks like I'm just killing time until 80. This is so real.

Tom, this is hitting pretty hard right now, FYI. Across the board. Says the 42-year-old. Yeah, so that's why I'm still playing at 55. I'm still playing men's hoop on Wednesday. We're 7 and 1. You've got to find something, and you've got to find something fulfilling because,

and I think that football has filled that void for them, but it's not as fun, and we could see it this year. I love that. that. And I did love seeing some of the social posts from players' wives. Like Logan Ryan's wife had a great post on Instagram talking about how Brady and her and their two families and their kids and his daughter were, you can't almost make this up at like a dog shelter every single week and there's no cameras there. There's no people. And it's the thing that Brady did because he knows it's the thing that his daughter loves most in the world. And you just hear all these

stories. And I thought of that tweet, Mina Kimes had yesterday too. Just like, you, you, you don't hear anyone who's had interpersonal relationships with Brady ever say a single bad note, which is pretty rare. And I do think that gets me. Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown. But even he, when he tried to, like, rat him out for like, look at this guy. And then they showed the text.

It was like, oh, Tom Brady is actually trying to help you, man. He's trying to be a big brother. So I think that can get lost. It reminds it there was that book by, who was it? He now writes for. Yeah, Charlie Pierce. And he had a really hard time. He's a great writer.

making Brady interesting because there wasn't really much more to it. But you were there at the very beginning. So our listeners might not know this time. But you, I think, were elevated in some way in the Boston sports scene because you were so early in on Brady. I could be wrong. And tell me if I am, you were, I feel like the first one to be in on Brady that you said, even before he took over for Bledsoe, but especially after he took over for Bledsoe,

that like, this is the guy, this is going to be the guy, they are never going back. You used to call Drew Bledso the hood ornament. You made fun of craft for signing him to the biggest contract in history after two pretty bad years. And you said that was all for show and that it's going to be Brady forever. And at the time, you were kind of on an island. Like, that seemed crazy. And it became a bigger conversation through that Super Bowl year. And Tom built a mansion on that island now.

Absolutely. Who said it? Who said it? You said it again, Greg? I said it again. We're not supposed to say the words of the big game that's going to be played in a couple of weeks. What did you see back then, Tom, that let you know this, like right off the bat and like that? How did you see that? It was a training camp in 2001. He was unremarkable in 2000.

He showed up. The Patriots were Bryan College, which is a small college in Rhode Island. That's where they worked out. and he walked into the cafeteria in 2000 with a backpack on. I'm like, why is that tall kid walking in there? And why is he here in July? Because he absolutely did not look like a football player. By the next summer, 2001, you could see in virtually every training camp practice,

Brady outperforming Bledsoe. This is prior to Bledsoe being injured. You can look at the, go to NFL Jesus, look at the playbooks from those preseason games. You can see the numbers. Brady performing better than Bledso in each one of them. So he was outperforming Bledso consistently. And Bledsoe actually played the entire first half of the fourth preseason game in 2001. They were so desperately inept with him on the field.

Then they go into the season. They lose to Cincinnati. They're horrendous in the game that Bledso gets hurt against the Jets. So my peeing on that test, territory with Brady was more linked to. He's not gotten any better blood so it's getting worse. And Brady is actually very accurate and very competent. And you talk to more and more people, whether it be Lloyd Carr or his high school

teammates or people who had grown up around him and they said he's going to take over the team. Lawyer Malloy said he's going to take over the team. These were guys who said, you know, we believe in what Tom can do. So I saw it, but it also was confirmed by many, many, many, many people. people around him even in the weeks that he was taking over the job um the brady patriots of it all obviously during retirement number one uh a lot was made that he didn't mention the pats and all that stuff and i know that was a huge story up around your parts um now as we spin forward like

how do you see that relationship uh pats brady like is there going to be a one day retirement contract or is Brady really the type of guy that that was a part of his life he's moved on and there won't be that type of connection post career that's what Dan really wants as a Jets fan that's what he's just hoping for that's all he has here's the interesting thing I think that Brady is extremely attuned to symbolic moves meant to leverage his relationship to the betterment of somebody else. And the symbolism of signing a one-day contract and retiring as a patriot, I think we'll probably go sideways up his chimney. The reason being, he had a chance in 2020. He begged you from 2017, 18, into 19. And when you finally sat down and gave him a bogus contract that you announced

as a two-year extension, and he knew, and you knew that it was just on vapor. And then the next year in March when he gave you one last chance in spite of himself to do something, Belichick says we can't do two and 25 each, fifth, we can't give you that through freeze contract. He became a free agent. So for the Patriots to now say, can you come back and sign a contract just so you can return? No, I'll show up for the Red Jacket ceremony for the Patriots Hall of Fame and I'll be there for whatever parade and the statue unveiling. Well, let's not get to the point where you're trying to make me sign something that I wanted to sign and you wouldn't give to me. Do you think that they do you think that they're going to attempt to do that though tom or do you think they

understand that they maybe didn't handle it the way they should have i think that they would probably send out enough feelers to understand that that would probably be a bad idea and this is all hypothetical on my part guys i don't know this i've not asked anybody if tom would sign a one day contract i did speak to people uh close enough to the situation to say can you just put this to bed for me tom's not coming to the back to the patriots right this was a week or two ago said he will never play for the Patriots again. I mean, could you? The relationships are fine.

Right. I thought it was crazy when people were throwing that out there. I was like, you do. I do not. Interpersonally, I think he's fine with Bill. I think he's fine with Robert Kraft. He went to his wedding. But it's the same thing with people who you work with, who you just couldn't work with anymore.

If you see him someplace for 20 minutes, you're like, that was great to see you. Want to work with him? No. Could you see him, though, like with Bill Belichie? Because I think some of the stuff that drives me, nuts is this do Belichick and Brady like respect each other are their careers not the same because of it you know you got Jimmy Johnson going out on Bill Belichick's yacht with him and all that

could you see like the relationship between the two of them turning into something where you look back in a different way beyond the business of the Patriots where Brady and Belichick are out on that yacht and just enjoying the fact that they changed football history together or is there something thornier there I could absolutely see that and I could see it in a way that we wouldn't find out about it until three weeks after it happened. Well, you might, but. Well, I might, but chances are I wouldn't because they know that it would go immediately right to telling everybody.

And they would want to be private about it. But I think that they could in the realm of we've shared so much together. We did so much together. And we've never had a relationship that is away from football. Belichick changes drastically. I'm sure you can hear from any number of four. former Patriots, whether it's been Willie McGinnis or guys who have come through NFL media who were with the Patriots can, you know, have testimony to how much Bill changes after

someone is not their employee anymore. And Belichick really did that after that game last year at Tampa. Spent 25 minutes after a primetime game in the locker room talking to Brady. So the damn buses back to Tampa had to wait, which is probably Bigfoot in the whole situation in the way Bill loves doing. But think about that. So, yeah, I could see it, but I just don't think it's going to be them sitting down and throwing Doritos at each other and gambling on the couch.

I could hear from Tom Curran on Tom Brady all day long. I'm curious how your relationship is with Tom over the years. He was pissed. He's pissed at me. For what? Did you beat his basketball team? Is that to get to that seven or one mark? Remember before the box game, when the page?

Patriots played the Bucks. Yes. So when they were playing the Bucks and Brady was coming back about a week earlier, I was doing all kinds of pre-Bradie stuff. Here's the house that he lived in when he was in 2000 and here's this. And I was trying to, you know, do that reporting. So, of course, for the millionth time, I called Mr. Brady. So Mr. Brady's on with me and we're talking.

And he said something about the Patriots being wrong. and I said, so do you feel vindicated? Mr. Brady goes, damn right. That's right. And then I said, does Tom feel vindicated? You said, damn right. And of course, it went kind of, you know, viral because it was the first pop off before the game. And Tom just expressed to me via email, I didn't appreciate you asking my father to speak for me.

I thought he took advantage of him. And I was like, I would never do that to the guy. But at this juncture, I think we'd be fine if we'd talk, but he's not been. And that's the thing that I understand about it. I can have a great relationship with him for 25 years, but at a point, if he feels like you're leveraging a relationship in a way that is complicating for him, I get it. I do get it. Wow.

I do hope you get to the point, Tom, where you and Tom Brady are thrown Doritos at each other. Imagine that? Yeah. Tom, at the Hall of Fame in 28, have him removed. Tom, thank you so much for giving us some time. I know you're the busiest man in sports media around your parts right now. So that is much appreciated.

And yeah, let us know any updates, any emails you get from The Goat. We'd love to. Keep you guys posted. Thank you. It's been quiet since. Let me know if he asks about me if you see him. All right.

Thank you very much. Thanks, Tom. Thank you. The great Tom Curran, never disappoints. Good stuff. All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back. Hollywood, something, something, something, Hollywood,

where your dreams are made and also crushed it's a tough town okay before we get to some quarterback talk we just talked Tom Brady this is something I wanted to do since really I saw the trailer

for 80 for Brady for the first time which if you're not aware of 80 for Brady what it is our producer Justin Graver is going to give a very concise summary of what the film is about. Grave Digger. Yes, so the film...

You guys hear anything? No? Yeah. Oh, Justin, what's up? Sorry, I thought if you cue me, I don't have to do that. Yeah, it's a little complicated. Right. Okay, anyway, the film is about four women in their older stages who... Octogenarians? Is that it?

Octogenarians? The first time I've heard that term. who really want to see Tom Brady play football so they decide they're going to make a road trip to see him play against the Falcons in Super Bowl 52, whichever one that was, which ended up being the 28 to 3. Oh, you said something.

Oh, you said something. All right, and just again, an old grave digger is in a big heap of mess because not only his grave digger he gets dinged if he says it. He gets dinged if he misses any of us saying it and doesn't call it out. So right now he's down five bucks. Greg, all the way down to 15, he's up to 15 in the hole right now.

I mean, Graver acknowledged that this will be one of the first episodes in a long time that he's actually listening to what we're saying while it's happening. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I tune out. Sometimes. You know, I got to hang on every word here. Sometimes I tune out, says our producer.

You know, I learned from the best. Ricky Hollywood taught me well. Anyway, nice breakdown. It's legends of the screen. Rita Moreno, Sally Field, Jane Fonda, Lily Tom, and I'm asking you, folks, how much does this movie make in its opening weekend? Because I think it's kind of a fascinating test here in Tinsletown

because nobody really knows exactly who the movie's for. Greg says it's for his mother and her, I guess, friends or whatever. So if you're a person in New England, maybe a woman in New England, a baby boomer. I think it's for my mom. How do we have a sound drop for that? So you have that market cornered, obviously. People that are born in the maybe early 50s or so,

there are women that live in that exact region of the country. How much money will this film make opening weekend? Closest without going over, prices of. right rules and we'll figure out what the winner gets great digger we're going to let you get in on this as well mark you first i will go 11.8 million 11.8 million okay i like that can i get some some of the tinsletown music back only better go ahead great why don't you go next all right um i did do a little cursory research i checked in what is a like a football movie draft day came out nine years ago um and that in $9.8 million.

Now you've got to adjust for some inflation. That's not a terrible. I thought it would have been lower for drafting. I think that this movie will do worse than that. Factoring in inflate. Yeah, it will make about nine even, nine even for, for, 80 for Brady. Okay, well, you are accounting for inflation. I'm going to account for the pandemic and the decreasing box office.

Oh, very smart, very wily. I'm looking at the last weekend's box office, left behind, colon, the rise of Antichrist, debuted with $2.3 million. I feel like Tom Brady is a Christ-like figure to some, so he'll do better than that, but not much better. Let's go $3 million. I've potentially way overshot this then. I mean, I could be wrong. Three. I'm going to go low.

That's an absolute bomb. If that's an... That's an all-time... Ishtar Eskabon. Stinker. All right. How about you? Is this better?

This is better. You want something cinematic and big and make it feel like you just stepped onto Hollywood Boulevard. Right. That other one was called Hollywood fanfare, but... Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go with 4.6 million.

Oh. So you boxed in Greggy. Right. My whole thing was just... I like that. That was the closest I could get to getting a dollar, basically. I was taking love. taking low.

Greggy boxed in in a big spot. I think Grave Digger is the Vegas favorite in my mind, but obviously not in your games. But you know, in most games on the show, the producer loses. So you've got a fact of that in as well. I mean, I've got to get it between three

and four and a half, so that's a pretty small window. I'm hating what I did because the last five times I've been to the movie theater, there have been about 15 people in there. Right. It's 80 for Brady. It's going to be 80 people that go to this movie

In hindsight, yeah, 5 to 6 feels like a nice number But I was trying to get that $1 thing Ingraver ticket for me But that's how the game's played, good job And just to put a button on the Tom Curran conversation That was great Could have done an hour on that One of the reasons we're not doing an hour on that

Is first of all Tom wouldn't agree to that I'm sure, but also Or maybe it would, it's a good dude But also I know some people are kind of braided out at this point Yeah, I get that sure You kind of do that especially now it's a second retirement but I think having someone like Tom

that really was boots on the ground and had a relationship with all the people involved and you know Greggy I don't know why you always think that it's not that question about the Patriots wasn't me like hoping for bitterness between the two sides just having a little fun

yeah like I think I think it's time to I think he's above a one day retirement I don't think that's something that's going to happen but I would be unfortunate if there's a cold war and that's kind of what their situation is moving forward, but... It was a great question, and I know that because it inspired a surprising and compelling answer.

So you did a good job. Thank you, Daddy. Hey, let's play a game. Well, it's not a game. Let's help people. Let's head into the old... Imagine like a police station. Now, we're talking about old Hollywood.

Now, imagine an old police station. You walk up the marble steps and you head into the big doors and here you are inside headquarters. And now we head into, like, the meeting room. Yeah, Dragnet style. Dragnet style. Never saw the show. But I think I get the rest.

I mean, it was not on while you were. It was not a vibrant prime time offering during your lifetime. Or mine. Wasn't. But what we're going to do here. Undoubtedly. By a few years. We are going to take a look at the remaining or the quarterbacks of no.

who are in limbo right now. It's a case file study. And we're going to go through the files. We're going to pull the files on these quarterbacks, these mysteries. We're going to try to kind of crack the case on where are these quarterbacks. And Tom Brady, pick up the file,

toss it in the garbash. Put it in the circular file. Put it in the circular file. What does that mean? Garbage can. Round garbage can. Oh, is that what that is? I never knew what that meant.

Circular file. Circular. Oh. We're filing that away for good. I'm learning so much in this episode today. Yeah. So let's pull the file open. What do you got to?

Pull a name, Greg. Pull a file. Let's start with a guy we were just talking about in the playoffs, Danny Dimes. No, you're pulling the Dimes file. Daniel Jones, because this young man... That case is ice cold, sir? I think is in line potentially to... to make more guap than anyone in this filing cabinet outside of perhaps Lamar Jackson.

But Daniel Jones might be a little more motivated to get that money fast. There are reports in New York. People are throwing out that he could make $40 million. I don't believe that. But I do believe that the Giants will believe his market is strong enough that they're not letting him go, that they're going to tag him if at all possible, if they can't. had a deal done. Yeah, boss, there's other information coming right out of Giants headquarters that their GM,

Joe Shane basically said, we want them back. They've been consistent about that. It's hard to imagine that they go nowhere at quarterback. They've got nothing when Daniel Jones, I think, over the course of an evaluation season, one over the coaching staff. Do you think with all this, though, there's a little bit of saying something publicly while also examining what the market could be like privately? Now, I don't know who would be in that market for the Giants.

It's probably not Lamar Jackson. And if it's not Lamar Jackson, where's the upgrade? But Brian Dable has to be feeling himself a little bit after making Daniel Jones look that good and feel like he could do it with different quarterback. So I'm not totally ruling out like a tag and trade here or something surprising. I don't know. I don't know for sure that they're there. Does that sound like something the Giants would do? The ownership seems to love Daniel Jones.

I'm struggling to find another team that would do that. This feels to me like the Giants value. who Daniel Jones higher than anyone else. And I think they see him as a talent who is making real progress in the first year under Dable and maybe they can get him under a manageable contract

while also maybe he takes the next step. I think they won't say it. They're not going to say it. But I think the giants, some of those people in that building are like, we think he could be like Josh Allen. We believe he could be that guy. Yeah, there are similarities to Josh Allen

in terms of the way that Dable can use him, but their owner absolutely loves Daniel Jones, the person, the guy, everything. And that was a big influence on Eli Manning staying there as long as he did was ownership. And that could be a factor. But you said who would want him? I mean, plenty of teams would want him.

I didn't say that. I mean, you said they like him more there. I think teams like the Colts, the Texans, the Panthers, the Bucks, the Saints, like the commanders, you just never know. A lot of that speaks to the fact that this so-called carousel of quarterbacks gets real stale after two or three names. Yeah, and here's the thing. We thought that last year

that there actually wouldn't be that much movement. Remember, that was the conventional wisdom at the scouting combine. That late in the off season, well, relatively, I mean, it's still before free agency. And then it ended up going crazy and everyone changed teams. And so I guess I don't put Daniel Jones ahead

so far ahead of these other names that, like, a surprise couldn't be coming. Some of these teams have high draftics, too. I wonder if that could get involved. Like, the Giants are one team and they have a coach who can develop quarterbacks that they could get creative, if they wanted.

I think we got this case figured out. Let's close this case. He's going back to the Giants. Let me dig back into the file here. It's a big case. And it's a tough one because everyone's got their eyes on us on this one. Got to get this one, right? We've got to close this one.

Aaron Rogers. There's so much evidence here pointing to the Jets. There's so much. They're the culprit here. I'm going to put the collar on the Jets on this one. I'm going to give you eight reasons real quick here. Eight. And tell me, disagree, wherever you disagree.

Are the Jets openly pining for a veteran quarterback? Yes. Would Rogers be by far the best veteran QB on the market? Yes. Is there a connection between Rogers? No, I would say. If Lamar is somehow available, no. That's the answer.

If we're viewing Lamar is available. I would not categorize them as available. We'll pull the file if we have to. Yeah. Okay, Lamar, sure. Rogers and Nathaniel Hackett is their connection there, the new offensive coordinator. Correct.

Are Robert Sal and Joe Douglas entering playoff or goodbye-type seasons for the Jets? Correct. Would Rogers give the Jets huge national pop, put them back on primetime, take the headlines from the Giants? Oh, yeah. Has Woody made a big splash since he came back as the acting owner? No, but he's hinted at wanting to do so. Zach Wilson, remember him?

Does he have a relationship with Rogers that's deemed to be close? Allowing the Jets to sell it as not only getting Aaron Rogers, but here's a mentorship for our young quarterback we're not giving up on. Story. That's a yes, but it's like way lower than importance in all the other yes. It's seven of eight. It's still, yes. At eight, did Brett Farr have come to the Jets via trade via the same ownership and the same teams involved?

You did? History is instructive, Chris Wessling was known to say. Now, is there another team that could come in, swoop in, and make a big play for Rogers? Absolutely. But I don't think any team is, A, as desperate as the Jets, B, have the need that the Jets have at this level compared to what else is going on with their roster. It just would surprise me at this point. if it doesn't happen. Whoa.

That's where I stand. Drag net. Yeah. You can give them. You've got the 13th overall pick if you're the Jets. You've got other assets you can move. I don't feel as certain as you do because I think if you're a Green Bay, you've got to work with Aaron Rogers on some level if there's a trade.

And I'm not convinced that Aaron Rogers would see it as a match. Why not? I just, I think the problem, and you would understand this better than anyone, Chief, that the Jets have... Immediately makes them chief. No, the Jets have historical issues that I think make them like that override the current

bubbliness around some of their roster positives. Do players think that way though? I know we think about it that way. I think players are a tortured franchise that has failed. I think that if you're Aaron Rogers, you're very much about your legacy and this is the tail end of your career.

I mean, he's been weighing retirement year after year and it's like staying in Green Bay from one more year, fine. You kind of know what you're going to get there potentially. The Jets are an absolute raging X-factor wildcard landing spot for someone like Aaron Rogers. I hear

what you're saying, but I hear what Aaron Rogers has been saying on Pat McAfee and I think he went out of his way to compliment the Jets specifically in their talent that they have. And to me, I think he cares more about that who the receivers are and I think he'd be excited about

the receivers there. The money thing is interesting. The Jets would have to cut a lot of players. you'd have to pay them, I think it's $60 million this year. There are guys like Carl Lawson and they're Braxton Berrios. If you pop the hood on their on their team, even C.J. Mosley, if they had to make something more painful. Jordan Whitehead, but those guys are all played like 800 snaps. I'm just saying, you know, whether they're great or not.

I think where they are as a team, they would swallow hard and say, we trust Bob Sal to keep the defense where it needs to be and get this guy to save our offense. I think the thing that you have going for you is, that Woody Johnson has already said, like, we're ready to swing hard for the best possible quarterback. And I don't think that someone else will talk about. I don't think Woody Johnson is thinking Derek Carr and nobody else in that situation. When I say this, as a Jets fan, I'm not saying like, oh, we're going to nail this one.

This is a home run. There is a lot of risk that comes built in with this because Rogers is kind of a weird guy. He raged about Big Pharma. Woody Johnson, in case you're not paying attention is connected to such a thing. and in general, you're going to give up a lot to get them. You have to leverage assets, pay them a lot of money, make some hard decisions on the rest of the roster. It's a chance it wouldn't work.

But I think me and a lot of other Jets fans have come around on the idea like, but if it did work, what if it did? When has this gone wrong, of course? But don't tell me that if the Jets traded for Aaron Rogers, they wouldn't be one of the big hype bunnies of the 2023 season. People would be all in on the Jets with that defense. And then Aaron Rogers leading the offense. I love it.

I hope it happens. I think it can happen because of what. There's one thing that makes me believe it can happen. What about the eight others I gave you? One more. All that evidence was solid data points. I agree with circumstantial. No, I agree with all of that.

And that's why I think the Jets would do it. But I'm thinking, I'm more thinking about why the Packers would do it. Like, why do the Packers want to do this? And the number one reason would be that they genuinely believe in Jordan loves development. And I do get the feeling over the last. year something changed where they believe he improved a lot in the last year specifically and that when they saw him on the field that he was a different quarterback and when they saw him in practice and training camp he was a different quarterback because I don't think any of this

happens otherwise because they're not trading Aaron Rogers unless they think they can go win the division with Jordan Love. I don't think they're also you're also the front office that historically traded away Aaron Rogers hoping that Jordan they also look at the Farr of thing and they have mixed feelings but they made a good decision

to go well my piggyback on that is like I think they might be just a little over at Rogers at this point too yeah like so it feels like maybe it's just time and you still have this guy that he took in the first round under rookie contract it's time let's see the case is still open but I think

I got that one licked all right close that file and we're going to open up another one but after this break All right, welcome back. Mark Sessler. Well, I think this case, this file, this case that I'm about to drop on your table here. Pull the file. I'm pulling it.

I'm opening it. Jimmy G. Now, we know something. When you saw these cases, you just go from tavern to tavern, place to place, looking to find the missing person where he or she might be. Sometimes we got held up at the tavern. for reasons that have nothing to do with the case. We're detectives.

Yes. We learned yesterday that the 49ers, Jimmy G's current residing place, Kyle Shanhan openly saying he will not be back with us next year. He said that before. Right. The detectives will point out you said the exact same thing last year. I believe it.

I believe it this time. The environment is completely different this time. That's Shannon. He's acting screwy. This time is different. It's like I believe this the way I believe Tom Brady's retirement this time around. I think the Jimmy G experience in. San Francisco has run its course, and there is, from our insider, our Bureau insider, Ian Rappaport has linked Jimmy G to the Raiders, and that the Tom Brady is out of the atmosphere, the Josh McDaniels, Jimmy Garapolo thing, is a possibility, but I see one other possibility here, too.

I mean, A, money or need or desperation by another team could lower him elsewhere, but something's happened down in Houston, the number one city in the country, according Detective Greg over here. Damico Ryans, San Francisco's former defensive coordinator. It's more of the players. My sources within the playing community. You've got plenty of sources and they're actual human beings. We know about that case. But I think Demico Ryans brings suddenly an element where you've got a coach that knows Jimmy G. For better or worse.

But I think Jimmy G is really well-liked, obviously. And it's someone that has a chance to take Houston somewhere for a year or two. You've got Nick Casario, New England's old general manager. operating the front office in Houston who is a pro Jimmy G guy and you've got a chance to I think still make a quarterback pick with that number two pick if you want

but not have to not throw that guy into the fire as an automatic right away has to win on a team that's still building. Detective Sessley you play by your own rules sometimes you get the job done I think you're done it here I think you're playing too fast and loose hit it Graver

I'm cracking this case open oh he's pulling the file from you these two detectives don't It's not a fun. It's not fun. It's not fun. It's good for a television program. Oh, yeah. I'm open up a different file.

It's by the man we'd like to call Jake Brisket. And I'd like to slice off a little piece of Jake Brisket. That's a dusty file. No one's even bothered to look at that one for years. It's been well traveled. It's been around the NFL. That's a cold case. But I can say with confidence, Jake Brisket,

played as high a love of it. as high a level of quarterbacking as Jimmy Garoppolo. Slides me off a piece of that, Jake Brisk. This is perfect for it. And I think he might be a better fit as a sort of mentor and guy that you can put with a number two overall pick in the draft without having a guy in Jimmy Garapolo who's maybe a little tired of being in this situation

where he's mixed and he might not have a job, especially when his old buddy, Josh McDioreau. Daniels is out there in Las Vegas. I always have believed that Jimmy Garoppolo's career would have been much better in New England. I think he fits in that offense. He's great at the sort of option routes and the things the Patriots offense asked him to do. I don't think he was ever as good in Kyle Shanahan's offense as he was in New England.

So to me, this is two cases at once. Jake Briscuit makes sense as the mentor guy and doesn't even start week one. if that rookie is ready. But Jimmy G. makes sense as a true starter that he actually gets his own team again in Las Vegas. I just don't project

Jacoby Brissette necessarily playing to last year's surprising levels in a new system either. He fit perfectly with Stefansky and Stefansky, I think the Browns made hard effort to try to try to resign him

because as their backup, he called him the best teammate he's ever observed Kevin Stefansky. He earned like that middle type of contract where it's a little better than a backup or it's like extremely high level backup money and I think is the way he played I mean Jimmy G can't stay on the field I don't think that would stop the Raiders from going for him but I think it'd be a weird thing with him in a number two over up like maybe I'm crazy I like Jake Brisket the player he's going to

hang around for a bunch more years probably but we need him to be this week one starter for another team I guess my question would be has Jimmy G ever played at a higher level than Jake Brisket played last year. My answer is only in New England. Jimmy G played well this year. Jimmy G was awesome before he got hurt this year. But to me, they're like similar. They're different types of quarterback.

I guess I'm pointing to. Their ceiling is very similar. There's not a lot of people that are looking at Jimmy G. Other than maybe Josh McDaniels, who sees who he was in New England and think like that's a totally different level quarterback. Or New England's old general manager and a coach that spent the last number of years with Jimmy G.

We are still waiting for more. information in Houston. We don't even know who the offensive coach. I got to pull up the car file. This one is, everyone's perplexed by this case. And maybe we put our heads together on this one.

Now the initial thought, and perhaps still the overriding thought is that Derrick Carr is a jet. Because it does make sense. And you could connect those dots. And I would imagine if Aaron Rogers stays in Green Bay or something else happens. He goes somewhere else.

The Jets would try very hard. But I'll throw another team out there. Because I do believe Aaron Rogers will be a jet, as I said. So where does cargo? How about the commanders? I think the commanders obviously looking for an upgrade on what they had last year. And I know, especially Detective Sessler over there, you're not a Derrick Carr guy. I don't think, I'm not necessarily saying that the commanders are going to get Derrick Carr and be like way better.

but I think it's going to be a better quarterback situation than it's been in recent years. And that defense with Carr, I think that is a team that can contend for the playoffs. They have weapons for Carr to, you're not sending them into a bad situation in that sense. Either. Carr to the commanders is some evidence that I'm piecing together.

Your thoughts. Here's what I like. I'm not a Derek Carr guy, but Ron Rivera specializes in obtaining veteran quarterbacks who I'm not into year after year. And like, I think that they are looking for something. I don't think you can run back the Carson Wentz experience.

Oh, no. I think they kind of did Taylor Heineckee dirty at the end of the year, and I think he's a free agent. I think he wants out of there. Sam Howell is, like, I was a spicy season finale start by him, but like, that's a project. Taylor Heineke might be, you know, a little surprised by how cold his case

is on the open market. Maybe he shouldn't leave Washington. Well, I don't think he'll have a starter, but, like, he's just not part of their future. But I think Ron Rivera is coaching for his job. And Derek Carr is the, there aren't a lot of options out there. Like, I don't think Jimmy G. goes to the commanders. And Derek Carr, if the Jets thing goes south, or if it holds up with Aaron Rogers, which you believe, I'm not so strong on that. I could see Derek Carr winding up with the commanders.

I would introduce the Indianapolis Colts as another option, depending on who winds up there as a coach. Supposedly or reportedly, according to the athletic, they haven't given Carr. permission to seek a trade yet. There's reasons for that, and I think they make sense. He's not a free agent. He signed for three more years, and I actually think his contract, and then Ryan Tannhill, if we're going to talk him at all, are assets. Like, Derek Carr making $32 million this year, and you don't have to give him any bonuses. Like, great. Like, that's actually on the lower end of starting money. Next year, it's 41, which is a lot, but you don't have to guarantee him any money. I think you guarantee him like seven of that, which is virtually nothing.

So it's just a look. See, I don't think he could be asking for a raise or anything. And it makes me think that he's going to get a better offer in terms of trade, what the Raiders are going to get way more than we would expect. If Carson Wentz could get two-toes and everyone agrees that they overpaid, I think Carr ultimately will get that much or maybe even more. And people are kind of looking at their car like they're not that excited. Like, sure, but you mentioned the commanders. I think that makes a lot of sense.

You mentioned the Colts, think that makes a lot of sense. How about the Panthers? That makes a lot of sense. Sure. With Frank Reich, how about the bucks that makes sense? He would upgrade a lot of teams at the quarterback. He really would. As I was going through this list,

even if you take off the teams like the Seahawks and the Giants who kind of have guys now and are probably keeping them, there are too many teams, not enough quarterbacks. And Carr is sort of threading that needle of a guy who's in, upgrade and available. I think he's going to end up. It might cost a first round pick to get that. Also, who is the bigger winner in the Brady retirement?

Because that takes Brady out of the cycle. And I, like, the, probably what happens is Aaron Rogers stays in Green Bay. Probably Lamar Jackson stays in Baltimore. I'm just saying, I thought he cracked the case. Yeah, I kind of cracked that, though. But we don't, we don't, we don't agree on that. I, I'm loyal. I didn't close, I, captain.

I didn't close that case. But it is something that I feel like I got. I'm just saying if you want to just say that these guys stay home, that Derek Carr suddenly, unless someone has eyes for Jimmy G, which is a tear down for a little bit below Derek Carr, I think, in certain situations. But Derek Carr to me becomes the guy that five or six teams are chasing after. Like, you mentioned the Saints. They have literally, like, they can't stick with anything they have at quarterback feasibly

and sell that to the fan base. They have James under contract. Andy Dalton is a free agent. I mean, James Winston starting next year after what happened with him and Dennis Allen this year feels absurd to me. One note on the timing with Derek Carr. So the Raiders have a deadline here of February 15th to either trade car or cut him. And that's connected to a $40 million guarantee that locks in at that time. So you can trade for him.

They're not going to take that guaranteed money on, I would imagine, the Raiders. So they'll probably, what, cut him at that point, right? I mean, he's not getting cut in any scenario. and I think it's a pretty small like I think the guaranteed money they'd have to have to give him is like seven and a half million yeah he was due 40 a year from now

and you're right that would be it would be nice to do that but you can also rework all that stuff like you can work with him to kick that down the can't like to kick that can down the road I feel like that deadline is sort of two weeks away from that that nebulos deadline

but I could see that happening absolutely I mean these are teams that a lot of these teams also if they've it's nebulos if they've identified cars as the guy they want and they know there's a hot market for him. Like, they're going to want to try to lock them down. And then they can proceed with their offseason plan and their draft plan.

I think it's already happening in back channels. It could happen by the end of this episode. Like Stafford and Alex Smith. He seems like the guy that should be getting done before that deadline anyways. You're right. And that's why that puts a, oh, God, because as a Jets fan, like if you, if car gets traded next week and then you're kind of all in on Rodgers. And if that doesn't work out, then you're like, nothing. Oh, geez. Now what do we do?

Jimmy G. Mike White. All right. One more. Mark Sessler, I should say. Lieutenant. Congratulations. You've been promoted. For my work on these cases. Unbelievable work. Ah, that's unfair, boss. You see? I've been working just as hard as him.

Your time will come. I want to talk Ryan Tannahill. Pop the file. I think the Titans, Mike Rable especially understands that Ryan Tannahill is a major asset, especially in an area in an offseason

where if you get rid of them, you might be stuck with nothing just to reference the Jets situation you just mentioned. It's not an easy or a natural target for free agent quarterbacks because the cupboard has been bare on offense. You've got an aging Derek Henry.

There are issues on the offensive coaching staff, vacancies, all sorts of things. So here's the problem. Vrabel mentioned that Tannahills' future was sort of just up in the air. He gave it a non-day... You have got a new GM coming in. You can save $27 million with a post-June 1 cut. You move on into the abyss and to avoid,

but it just feels like possibly the Titans view the Ryan-Tanahill era as ending. If they do, there is a landing spot out there that I really feel strongly about. Talk to me. Arthur Smith and the Atlanta Falcons. Arthur Smith, Ryan Tannahill's old offensive coordinator. I could see that. That's why you're the lieutenant. Yeah, Arthur Smith's the guy that like went back to Marcus Marriota like to an old love

and realized for the second time, this ain't a match. But Ryan Tannahill and Arthur Smith always were a match. They've got the number eight pick. They could use it on another weapon and suddenly that offense starts to look pretty spicy. They can run the ball really well. You've got a lot happening, Drake London at wide receiver. The tight end that never fit with Marcus Marietta, might with Ryan Tannahill. You can start to see something, and I think that Arthur Smith is under a little bit of pressure

where you can't just project or hope that Desmond Ritter will solve all your problems. I love that, and I love the thinking of him getting traded in general. Just because what we talked about with these other teams, which we don't really have a beat on, Panthers with Reich, Saints with Dennis Allen, bucks with Todd Bowles, presumably. I mean, they don't have any quarterbacks right now. Like, the market that will be aggressive trying to get Derrick Carr, the same would be true for Ryan

Tannehill. And I don't think his contract is a problem. And I look at this Titans file. There's a lot of dead bodies in there. A lot of dead cap space right now. A lot of tow tags. This roster is a little bit of a mess.

They don't have an offensive line. They don't have any cap space. Like, I don't know what, I don't see a path logically forward for them. And if ever there was a time to blow it up, it would be with a new GM, and who knows, maybe Derek Henry's... I mean, we got a detective who's been on this Titans case for a long time behind the glass, too.

I wonder what his thoughts might be. He has not been promoted to Detective. Not yet? Yeah. He's still cleaning the bathroom. He's on the police. He's in the academy. Seems unfair?

Yes. Cleaning the bathroom. That's up great digger. You look at it from the Titan side. General manager Rand Carthon came in his introductory press conference. They said, do you see Tannahill as your starting quarterback next year? and he said, I'm still evaluating that. Mike Frable's going to make his decision on that.

I'm going to make my decision on that. Then we'll come together and form a consensus and share thoughts. I think they could get a first for him, and I think they would do it. The fact that he didn't commit to him, I mean, even just like to say it, just to say it, the way the Cardinals committed to Josh Rosen before drafting Kyler Murray. Right. It's interesting. Why not just lie and not create a story?

Here are some other players that might not be on the Titans. Bud Dupree, Taylor Luan. Like this could, they're a team I'm circling of just like. For sure, those guys will not be on the Titans unless they take a pay cut. For sure. Very good. All right, let's leave the station. Let's head to the tavern and have a couple.

What do they do? What do they like the detectives? They have their shot of Jameson and then a butt heavy. Absolutely. Yeah. I like to. Beer in a shot. Greg with a glass of milk.

Go bunk style and just let's just go to the train tracks. Right. McNulty and bunk just getting smashed. Like just wicked hammered down at the. old way tracks um all right let's see oh we got something cool coming up by the way well we got where uh where are we going uh what's what's happening next sunday greggie remind the people there is a contest between the kansas city chiefs and the eagles thought i had you there i was trying to get you to an even 20 dollars uh to the jacksonville food bank till but look at us getting out

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