NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Draft Room Traps; Go Get My Lunch Draft Edition

Episode Date: April 22, 2019

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler return in one piece from the ATN bachelor party in southern California and give a full recap of what went down this weekend. The Raiders sent scouts home before the draft (8:40) and the Cardinals screen their final "feeler calls" leading up to the big weekend. (14:45). The heroes break down all the rest of the news in the NFL including the Bills backfield looking crowded with the recent signing of TJ Yeldon. (20:03) Go get my lunch draft edition brings up some spicy takes including the Browns trading back up into the first round. (29:50)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, Dan. We made it back. The big Chris Wessling, Bachelor party. The final bit of pomp and circumstance ahead of the big wedding, which is coming up in less than a month now over in Tybee Island. And we had a nice two nights in six. San Diego, and we had a lot of fun. And we're all here together, which means no one is arrested or in Tijuana or anywhere else, Mark. Or dead. Or dead. No one died. It was from that angle, a success. But I mean, I left thinking that we, you know, if you're Lakeisha, the Paramore,

and you were to witness the 50 straight hours of our time together, I think she'd come out of that experience thinking, these are four upstanding middle-aged men. It didn't get overly wild, which is what I wanted. But it was a great time. It was exactly what I needed. A couple of Reds wins. Greg and Dan beating Mark and I in seven-game series of Cornhole. We just needed six, but...

Yeah, we weren't going to bring that up. It was your weekend, but since you... Well, you know, you have to own the loss when it happens. That is one of those losses that will stick to Wes's legacy, unfortunately. You hate that it falls on a Bachelor Party weekend in honor of him. but also of course Mark who really in his cornhole he had been out of the game for a while and he came back a little rusty at first but by the end of the series was really throwing well but it's sad Greg that history will remember beyond anything else the final throw of the six games of the hundreds and hundreds of throws history will remember it was kind of a Chris Weber timeout situation ultimately Mark and West they weren't winning that game they weren't winning the series most like they were in they were in trouble they were it was just about done and mark overall had a great performance like chris webber's college career but all anyone remembers about that uh michigan loss was chris webber taking that time out and when west when mark knocked to a mine in it just was tough i think it's an apt comparison for this reason michigan michigan was gonna lose that game anyway regardless of probably leber's time out right i mean paint a picture gregg so the throw uh it's point game uh for greg and dan mark has the last throw of the round.

I believe it's 20 to 13, 20 to 12 in that range. I had to keep us alive and keep you. I had one more to go. I had one more to go. Mark throws it up in the air. It hits about six, you know, four to six inches to the right of the hole, tapping both of Greg's bags that we're sitting next to the hole into the hole. That's a six-point score more than obviously what we needed, which is one.

So that will be played in perpetuity on the, Cornhole channel, which is probably somewhere on direct TV. I mean, just to, that was also, would have been my fourth bag on the board. Yeah. And so was this, it would have been a, it was a total narrative shift because this guy that has given up on parlor games, I thought I was going to be in a complete embarrassment.

Thought I hung around, didn't embarrass West for the most part. But that last shot is the only real replay they would need of the entire affair, which is a disaster, a total disaster. No, your improvement needs to be noted because that makes or breaks the bachelor party. If you do bad the first game and it's not even competitive, it's not a good time. But almost the first four or five games were 18 to 18 at some point. Right, a bit of an eye-opener, how good and competitive the matchup is with just the four of us. We don't need anybody else to have great corn.

We had two 18-18s and one 19-19 out of the six games. So that tells you everything you need to know. A few more takeaways I had. We dug in VH1 is now air airing Cheaters Marathon, the TV series, the reality show. cheaters. It's a good early morning fair if you're not feeling up to back to back to back to back episode. They air a five-hour block from about seven to noon and no joke. We watched the entire marathon on Friday morning or Saturday morning.

So that was interesting. Friday morning it was. And then Mark was nearly assaulted by a woman of generous carriage outside of bubs at the ballpark, the popular bar right next to Petco Park where the Padre. play and that was a close call because that woman she could do some damage potentially I mean a lot of near misses that was the only real danger spot good a good near miss that was the only point where I felt like the group or one of the group was in danger because she was looking to throw hands I came home the door man also wasn't pleased with Mark like an hour

before that I was tired everything I was doing was trying to take our gathering and take it up a not to and that does not always comply with people attempting to control events such as bouncers and uh this female right whoever she was and i'm turning 39 tomorrow and i have to tell you so i've been doing bachelor parties now for you know 12 to 15 years it's my first one in a while the back-to-backs it's like the 99 NBA lockout season uh where you just saw guys dragon uh because they weren't in shape they were kind of not ready for it that's me now at a bachelor party so i don't have too many left my brother's not married yet i have some cousins um but west you might be my last close friend yet to tie the knot and that's fine i think i'm i'm basically i've done

my duty in the bachelor party realm i feel like i've been a big contributor i have some MVP awards on the mantle i've always tried to do my best but my body is not willing i yeah i get that good analysis excellent leadership out of all three of you especially you driving um i arrived home with nothing left in the tank. I was able to go back to back, but I left it all in the field. As you should have. Jordan after the flu game.

Well, I don't know about the flu, but yeah, it was a good time. All right, let's get into it. We got a lot to hit coming up later. Yes, it's the return of go get my lunch, you turd, the 2019 NFL draft edition. Yes, the draft is finally here. It's draft week. So we will get into props, predictions from each of us

with sandwiches on the line. and this year, this is the year, we're going to pay them all off. How about that? Instead of talking about it, this segment has become everyone saying, well, it's not like I got to pay them off anyway. It's not like they ever give it.

But in 2019, fresh slate, sandwiches get paid. So paid off based on these props and not all the junk. The standings remain. As long as we're not paying all that off because I would be. Yes. And Nick Fortier, I'd go get my lunch. Dot com does tremendous work, or is it.org. com probably.

So check out the history of the game. Here we go. We're going to do that. Also, some news to get to. So Ricky Hollywood, we were hoping you would make a impromptu appearance slash cameo down in San Diego. Didn't see it, but you were in our thoughts. Thanks. Yeah, I'm kind of bummed.

I missed out on four dudes watching VH1 early in the morning for your bachelor party. Oh, please. What the heck? I know. Yeah, and mostly was disappointed. But you're not going to get out and get going at 9 in the morning. Go get brunch. go get you're on the beach, go do,

you guys, we were watching VH1. You know what that sounds like? That sounds like a bachelorette party. Oh, let's make sure we get brunch in the morning. I heard a real cute place downtown. Yeah, dude, we went so hard last night. VH1 marathon. Let's watch it all.

That's a very, like, guy thing to do when we don't really know what else to do with each other for like four straight hours. So it's like just comment on the television. I haven't, I had never seen cheaters before, but if you saw Clark Gable the Third in action before his untimely passing, you would,

I'll just go with one episode. Joey Greco carries a franchise. All right. Jesus. Let's go. From Cheater's surveillance cameras, you are about to view actual true stories filmed live, documenting the pain of a spouse or lover caused by infidelity.

This program is both dedicated to the faithful and presented to the false-hearted to encourage their renewal of temperance and virtue. Did you judge us? How dare you? How dare you, Scorpion Woman? all right let's get going interesting news out of Oakland and really to me and this this did pop up during our cheaters marathon is when we learned about it interrupted us yeah um Mike Mayock and John Gruden the brain trust of the Oakland Raiders well they decided to kind of shrink things down the old circle of trust ahead of Thursday Mayock and Gruden sent their scouts home for the weekend and do not expect them to return by George. Raff time. Rap sheet reported on Friday. Rap report added that Gruden and Mayak, quote, don't know who to trust among the scouts and, quote, wanted to clear the room. According to the

Raiders website, they employ 14 people in their personnel department. Not all of them are scouts, but the director of college scouting, Sean Hurrock, was hired by Reggie McKenzie in 2012, the former GM. He was inherited when McKenzie left the organization in December. so Greg will start with you on this one to me this is kind of warmed the cockles on my heart a little bit because this feels like a very fun Raiders type move it's kind of absurd and a little bit crazy and troubling if I'm a fan of that team

but at the same time it's good to see the Raiders being the Raiders I agree it reminded me of an Al it just feels like we're back in the Al Davis era and that got me thinking like Gruden really is the perfect successor to Al Davis that maybe eventually he will have a partial ownership. Like we joke about this 10-year contract. Maybe it's just John Gruden moving forward.

Because I see this sort of paranoid, little crazy move. It's not that big a deal. And I think John Gruden, I don't think Mike Mayak has anything to do with this. I could say from another angle that this borders on non-news, minus the timing, because it dates back DNA-wise to a lot of people still mostly tied to Reggie McKenzie. his twin brother, Rally or Raleigh, however you, Dan want to pronounce that.

It's a Raleigh. You roll the R. He was still on the staff. So it's like this was someone that clearly Gruden was never on the same page with. And you couldn't have fired them last off season. So you have to keep them around from the year. Hey, if you worked or came in with Reggie McKenzie, who is by all accounts a great human being, then we don't trust you. But that happens all the time, though.

Well, something didn't work because there's a story that came out about five. minutes ago for me in Rappaport. Not detailing the Raiders' plans, but saying, explaining that they did this because the Raiders are planning a surprise pick at number four. Right. I love it. Right. It's like a move out of nowhere that no one sees coming.

And then Ian tried to guess a million different options, just like, you know, different types of picks. He's guessing Devin White. And they're afraid. Yeah, he guessed Devin White. He also was like maybe a quarterback, maybe a Taskins. and that they, yeah, they fear the leak. So someone leaked to Ian that the pick at number four is expected to be a surprise. It's a tricky.

Isn't every pick technically a surprise except for number one? We don't really know what it is. Surprise. They're supposed to be like five or six tier one guys in this draft, and maybe they're taking a tier two. Here's what I think you can take from it, though, that the entire scouting department basically is irrelevant except for Gruden and Mayock. In their money.

That's pretty interesting. They're irrelevant after. a certain date after they've done all their work. What this tells me is that for the most part, they've been irrelevant for months. They're doing some groundwork, but the only two people that really matter is Gruden and Mayock.

Isn't it normal for this, about this time of the year at the draft, the scouts are out of the process that, you know, now it's in the decision maker's hands. Yeah, for the most part. Most of these people are getting fired, to be clear, or their contract is up. So most of them aren't coming back. My first thought was when this happened in the middle of watching

I think episode four of eight of Cheaters, that why, if you're going to bench these guys publicly, and to some degree humiliate them and all the work they've done over the last year plus, then that, to me, would trigger leaks, not keep people in good employee mode until next week. And secondly, Charlie Castley, who obviously sat in on a billion war rooms,

talked about how back in the day with the Texans, and forget the Redskins, that was way, but even with the Texans that friends and family and all sorts of people would pile into the war room, because that's the day that you celebrate. but now with Twitter, like leaks could happen at any moment. So maybe it's just a lockdown. But with the trigger back effect where these disgruntled employees probably are looking for Ian's phone number.

Here's some more insight. Move the sticks, Daniel Jeremiah. When I started scouting in 2003, most teams allowed scouts and coaches to see the draft board. By 2012, most teams only allowed three to four people, head coach, GM, personnel director, college director to have access to the board. So he doesn't think it's that unusual. Gil Brand had a little... Ian fired back to that too.

It was like, with all due respect, it's unusual. Yeah. Screw you, bro. Gil Brand said this. We never cleared the room. He was a former, of course, general manager of the Dallas Cowboys before Jerry Jones got there. We never cleared the room, but sometimes we'd lay traps for scouts we didn't trust.

In 1987, we showed our board to a scout with us talking, taking Mike Junkin, a linebacker we didn't like. Two days later, Cowboys beat writer, Jim Dent wrote a story saying we were taking. drinking Junkin, hook, line, stinker. Gil drops the hammer. Mike Junkin, who went to the Browns and faded out of the NFL within weeks, I think. Gil knew what he was doing. The Raiders owned three first round picks,

424 and 24. Gil also compared Daniel Jones to Peyton Manning and made it sound like it might be his favorite quarterback in the draft. Obo, hubbo. All right, moving on. So, yes, the Raiders, 424-27 on Thursday. Cardinals, number one. Three days, we are four days away.

and the Cardinals are in final preparation for the big moment. Rapsheet reports at Cardinals Brass, GM Steve Kime, Coach Cliff Kingsbury, and owner Michael Bidwill, not Bidwell. Do not say Bidwell. It could lead to a misspelling. Bidwill. We'll have a final meeting over the next couple of days to discuss their options at number one per sources.

Rappaport added that the Cardinals have received feeler calls from teams inquiring about trading up as well. West, of course, Kyler Murray is widely believed the Oklahoma quarterback to go to the Cardinals at number one. So do you put anything into these final reports ahead of the draft? I put in the same thing I've been putting in the last couple of months that probably Kyler Murray is Cliff Kingsbury's guy. We don't know who Steve Kimes guy is, but we know he drafted Josh Rosen. So I think it's smart to keep all your options open until you actually make the pick and maybe that's what the Cardinals have been doing. Right. Why not listen? I mean, Peter King

mentioned this morning that for many in the building, Nick Bosa is their choice. So there's clearly like some division and there has been all along here. Right? I don't put, like I got a text from someone that was like, what's going on with all this, you know,

mess going on with the Cardinals? And I had to think like, what is even the mess? And I think it's referring to, you know, some of these reports that the Kyler Murray pick was almost tested, you know, to the public, like that they wanted to feel the reaction of what was going on when they let it out there that Kyler Murray was happening.

And now that the public wasn't that crazy for it, I don't put anything into that, though. That's putting too much stock into these reports that I don't believe. Like, jumping to the conclusion that there's somehow a mess in Arizona seems crazy, I suspect they're all totally on the same page. And the fact that there's all these different reports out there just means no one knows what the hell is going to happen, which is the idea. How do you like scientifically gauge the reaction of the public? Right, right.

That's another. Why would you want to? Why would you, if you're a football team, that's how you're operating? In theory, if your ownership and you're really worried about this franchise is sinking, like, hey, is this the guy that's going to create so much excitement that it starts selling our season tickets, which we're struggling with? But I don't buy any of that nonsense. Let's move on.

There is a name floating around, a prominent defensive player for the Seahawks. It's floating around as we approach the draft. franchise tag defensive end Frank Clark rap sheet reported Monday on Good Morning Football that the Seahawks have been talking to several teams about Clark, including the Colts, the Chiefs, and the Jets. So Clark trade mark is something I could really shake up the draft board. This is a prominent guy, just 25 years old, can get to the quarterback coming off a 13-sack season. and so you would think he would have value if the Seahawks were motivated to move him. I mean, I'd only wonder why the Seahawks

would want to move a pass rusher at the absolute prime age of his career, but there's other money concerns. I mean, for me, I think if this happens, this has to happen sooner than later and not probably when they're on the clock so that you, if you're Seattle, really know where you are heading into the draft?

That would be my guess. It happens sooner than later? I'm wondering, and you can pay multiple stars on a roster with the salary cap the way it is in the NFL. But the Seattle Seahawks just gave Russell Wilson the biggest contract in NFL history. What it does do, Wes, it does shift a little bit your franchise model, how you want to spend the rest of your salary cap. So you do probably, it makes you think we like Frank Clark a lot.

We might really like Frank Clark, but do we want to give him a $90 million, $90 million, $9 million tray flowers type contract? It's worth thinking about as an organization. I think that's the issue here. This guy is not DeMarcus Lawrence. He's not that good. I mean, he's a good pass rusher. He's not as well-rounded as some of the best pass rushers.

It doesn't play the run as well. A lot of his sacks come against, say, the Raiders terrible tackles last year. So to me, it doesn't surprise me that the Seahawks would have reservations about paying him if he does want that to Marcus Lawrence. Well, he came into the league with a domestic violence charge. So that, I think, has to be a factor in all of this in terms of giving a guy long-term money. And then that's the part where I would be a little worried. if I'm the Jets who have been thrown out there as one of the teams or the chiefs.

It depends on the price, certainly, but the fact that the Seahawks are so willing to give him up, there is a level of which he would be such a good player that they would want to keep him. And he's just not at that level. He's a good pass rusher. And maybe they see the Bobby Wagner contract coming up and they want to give it to him.

Ultimately, Russell's only making X amount more than he was on the last contract, which was pretty good. So they're saying, and it makes sense, we'd rather have a first round pick than have to pay Frank Clark's 17 million this year on a tag when we're probably not going to give him 90 next year. It all makes sense, but I'd be a little worried about giving him this sort of money

when the Seahawks, who are defensive experts, are not. Mike McAgnon of the Jets, I don't know the history of the Frank Clark domestic violence incident, but McCagnan's been on the record multiple times saying he doesn't like to go near people with that type of history. Yeah, I was from college, and Ian even pointed out on the air today, look, not how first round picks are the same.

If a team like the Jets, let's say, were actually interested, it'd probably be more like a trade down. Maybe they get the Seahawks first round pick or something like that. Whereas if it's a team at the back of the first round, the way Ian was talking, he really seemed to think that they're going to get a first round pick for Clark. Interesting. All right, let's move on to a signing ahead of the draft. The Buffalo Bills add someone to their backfield, an increasingly crowded backfield.

T.J. Yeldin, a member of the San Diego Greybeard's before this. signed a two-year contract on Monday. He joins a Buffalo backfield that includes Lashon McCoy, of course, and another 30-something back. Yeah, boy, Greg, Frank Gore. You worried about the inconvenient truth with the arrival of Yeldon? Yes, because Gore is great on third downs, and Yeldon's been pretty productive and is much younger.

Maybe there's a chance Lashon McCoy doesn't make the team. I don't know, but that seems... Really? I don't know. I don't know. They said he was on the team, and... then I guess Gore and Yeldon might be battling for one spot. And T.J. Yeldon's got about 2,200 yards over the last four years.

He has the same amount of yards as Tevin Coleman since he entered the league, which I'm not saying he's the same player, but he's been pretty productive. He's okay. He's a good receiving back. Yeah. And this is bad news. Sorry to our British listeners for your rugby guy, Christian Wade. Well, that's true, too.

Uh-oh. Well, Wade's... I think most people in the roster were bad news for... I think Wade is open to show enough to make a practice squad. this stage. You can save 6.4 million by moving on from Lashon McCoy, which the Lashon McCoy experience I thought would have gotten rid of him a year ago, but they've very loyally stuck to him, but it's not like he's getting any younger. Let's move on. Jalen Ramsey was not at the Jaguar's voluntary workouts. Tom Coughlin provided some thoughts on

his belief about whether players should be at these workouts or not. the NFLPA released a statement hours after Kauffin's comments to provide clarity on the definition of voluntary. Then Ramsey's agent digs in saying Ramsey is exactly where Jalen should be during this off season. He's spending time with his young daughter and family and training in his hometown of Nashville. The Jax are fully aware what's going on with him. And then Jalen himself tweets, quote, fully aware and quote, voluntary, meaning I don't have to be there. but they know the exact reasons I am not. My teammates know it's all of

and no, I'll be ready when it's time. 100 emoji. Wes, does that change anything about your feeling about Jillian Ramsey not being around in Jacksonville? Okay, so I'm a little torn on this because I did read where he works out hard with his father away from the team and nobody's really worried about him being in shape or not.

But I do think on this particular team where there is a void of leadership and it was an issue all year last year, that your best player should probably be your leader and showing an example, and he should be there. I would ask you, Dan, I saw another rumor. Would you trade the number three pick

in the draft for Jalen Ramsey? Ooh. Who will need a new contract soon. How old is he? Oh, he's young, like 25. Young guy, right? Yeah. Is he that young?

He's 25. Well, the number three overall pick for Jalen Ramsey would fill a huge hole on the Jets. Also a guy. How good was he last year? How good is he? He was like just below Pro Bowl level last year, but the year before, legitimately first team all pro.

I think you do it when you factor in the ceiling and the age and how the immediate boost that would give a team in New York that actually wants to compete for a playoff spot. I would do it because you would draft him third if you knew he was this good. He would be a top three player. And so you missed those first two years, but you still got the rookie, you know,

you got the rookie contract. I like that safety. Yeah, when you strip away like the middle. mysticism of these first-round picks. And if someone told you, you're going to have Jalen Ramsey, the talent level of Jail and Ramsey on your team, you know, from here for the next three, four years, five years, of course, versus taking a risk on a name from a college?

This guy might be the most talented defensive back in the NFL and you pair him with Jamal Adams. Now we're cooking with five. Wait, so this is like a real thing that... I saw it written in passing by Peter King or Breer or one of those guys. finally in the news John Lennon the late Beatles

founder had a piano that he wrote parts of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band the iconic album including the song A Day in the Life

which is probably my favorite Beatles song a lot of choices There are a few choices that's one of my favorite artists of all time That was my mom's favorite What a saga that song is, both Paul and John killing it on a day in the life. Check it out, young listeners and Erica.

Anyway, an upright piano that John Lennon used to write Beatles songs has been sold at auction to Jim Erse. Whoa, the owner of the cults. Erse tweeted Saturday he is, quote, elated to now own the instrument Lenin used to compose songs for that album by the Beatles, released over 50 years ago. Erse paid how much for the piano? Go ahead. $700,000. Very good.

$718,000. You knew that, right? I read it so much. Oh, I was like, that was impressive. 718 P. Incredible guess. Anyway, the piano is now Urse's. I'm just curious, if you guys had Jim Urse money, which is absurd money.

I'd love to hear your answer on this, too, Ricky. If you got one, what is one thing you would buy? I think I would buy something that he already bought, which is the Jack Carrowack ongoing typewritten scroll that became on the road. He just did it. on one long-ass piece of paper that rolled into a gigantic thing. I mean, he's buying interesting stuff. I'll give him that.

I don't really want somebody's old stuff, like collecting dust in my house, but I would pay the rights to have Northern Exposure released on streaming. The television show Northern Exposure, get that released on streaming. It's the greatest TV show. I love it.

I mean, you could, like, just hire them to play out the entire series for you in your house. You'd have so much money. Well, hey, the music, costs a lot of, this is what's preventing the show because they were the first show to have like great soundtracks on every episode.

I've thought about this too. Like if you became if any one of us became incredibly wealthy, would you start just collecting things because that's what wealthy people do? I know someone who sort of came into money and now it's like he's super into furniture and it's like I don't think no matter how much

money I would get that I would ever get into interior design. It just wouldn't happen. I would spend my money on just like property like wherever Obama was staying in Hawaii like I want that house yeah that's I can't imagine like getting into getting into this you know my dream home but but house in a location that I could get I don't know I would never in the at this point shift into a thing where I'm suddenly collecting insane knick-knacks and I want a less crowded home right with less nonsense I'm with you what about original artwork store I don't know

I don't see that's the other thing he's kind of gotten into art it's like I don't think so because it's not in me it just would be pretending It could be in you, and it just hasn't been allowed to blossom yet. No, my parents tried pretty hard. They're all into art. I have heard whispers out there that James Dolan, the owner of the Knicks, is looking to potentially sell that team. You would salvage the Knicks?

I would save the Knicks. Oh, wow. Think how fun it would be to be the owner. You'd be celebrated in the streets of New York. We did put a cap on how much. It's just like if you were. There'd be a Nick Fools like statue of you outside. How fun would it be?

Yeah, that'd be great. Outside the greatest arena in the United States. arena in the United States? Well, would you be like their boy GM or their middle 80s PM? Or would you, an inexperienced person takes GM role, I should say. You're not the GM. No, I would not be the GM. But I would be involved with the team.

I would have to leave the NFL to dive in and get caught up on the NBA in a way. I haven't been ever. And I would be involved with the process. And I wouldn't be doing things like hiring Phil Jackson. and I would do things like hire analytics-minded guys on the way up and have smart people around the organization and make the right moves, things that haven't happened in New York City in 25 years almost.

It'd be like the Pelicans. You'd have, instead of Mickey Loomis, you'd have Dave Gettelman running your Knicks. You'd be like one of those owners that like seven or eight years in, you're just like, you know, I didn't know what I didn't know at the beginning. I was a little too involved, but I've learned a lot. Also, do you know what a hero you would be if you got James Dolan out of...

Yeah. You want to be the guy after James No one. That's right. All right. That's what's happening in the news. Let's take a quick second and hear from our sponsors. Lisa knows how important rest is to a better life. Lisa is the foundation of a healthier, happier you.

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off by the time we're doing our Saturday show yeah stuff that's not lingering you know for whatever reason um all right here we go so we'll go around the horn and then you could take each other up on the on their sandwich props, say, I don't believe it. Let's put a sandwich on the line. Or you say, I agree with you. No sandwich on the line. And it's a very, very great tradition of the show. And I am excited for today's adventure.

How about you? I'm thrilled. I'm excited about Greg's beard, too. Look at this thing. It is growing and well. It's an interesting time for the beard because it's spring heading toward the warmer weather. And now you're growing in the big woolly man beard, which is quite striking. well this is the time of year where you know maybe not on yeah it was kind of mostly off last week

we're not on the air as much or when we are it's you know we're kind of far away it's it's fine classic guy going to beard move though to say like oh it's because and it doesn't really matter that is that's how it started you're also looking in the mirror and just like oh this is come yeah but i don't i don't trust Greg to to continue on because he's done this before and then suddenly clean shaven out of nowhere it's like a get too close to the ride more than more than normal. We're going to see where it takes us. But I like the way you brought it up. It's kind of counter what people are expecting. People lose the beards. Then mine will stand out more.

You're zagging. Everyone else is ziggin. Very nice. What do you think, Ricky? I like it. You think it works? Yeah. She told me it looks sexy the other week. She asked if you were trying to buy beer this week. It does look like you're trying to like fill in a fake. All right. Let's get into it.

Mark, why don't you get us going with the first prop? Let's have some fun. Oh, and the last one we do should be a... Wait, let me reframe this. The last one's got to be an onion hanger. So we want... And that means one where you're kind of really putting it out there and the chances that you get it right, not great, but you're brave.

And before we throw it to Mark, let's do... We always like to do one where it's kind of a universal-type prop. So let's start this way. What team will Josh Rosen be on by Sunday morning? By Sunday morning, what team will Josh Rosen be on? Let's go around the horn. I do believe he will wind up on another team, but I am going to go with the Arizona Cardinals by then.

I don't think they're going to get a deal done. Interesting. Why not any reason in particular? I think they probably value. There just seems to be split factions inside the building. I think some people value Josh Rosen a lot. I could be completely wrong in this. I've got these group bets wrong like five years in a row,

so take none of it as fact. I just think he's going to stick in Arizona. until unless they get something they really like. So he could be somewhere else week one. That's what I'm saying. I think they'll still movable, but I don't think it will happen by Sunday. Wes?

That's a good answer. That's what I don't want to take Mark's answer. You don't have to. You can. You can. Multiple people can take it. I was thinking Arizona, although I might switch it now just for.

I thought about it as well. Because he's on the Cardinals right now. That's a pretty big advantage in this competition. Right. Yes. Feel free to take it. Join me. I will not.

All right. I'm going to go Thelma and Louise with Mark. We're going over the card. This is going to be in contrast to what Mike Garifol told us on the Twitter show because there were the reports about the Redskins being interested and then Mike kind of shot it down is like, eh, it's not really serious. Well, I'm going to say the smoke leads to fire

and the Redskins get him at a really good value, fourth round pick maybe, something like that. And they bring him into the room because, let's face it, Colt McCoy, an injury at all times waiting to happen. And he still, he just had another. surgery to correct that leg injury suffered on Thanksgiving. Case Keenham's the only other option in the building with Alex Smith out indefinitely. So they're going to add another body in that room and it will be Josh Rosen with some upside. It's boring to take the Cardinals, which is

what I was thinking. You take them and I'll take someone else. Come on guys. I got a conscious uncoupling going on. I don't think it's boring. Well, you take the Cardinals too? Well, he just I'm out. I'm switching off. I'm going to the fish tank. Oh. Oh, we're how He's jumping out of a fish tank. That makes a lot of sense. That makes a lot of sense. It all is. Greg is now Thelma, Marcus Louise,

and I am in bed with the dolphins. They're going off a cliff. You're jumping into a pool. Who is? You're hanging out with like 20-year-old Brad Pitt? Oh, wow, you're doing more than hanging out. Wes? Go revisit that film.

No, Thelma and Louise. No, I get the wing, but you're claiming that Wes is doing more. I've seen you're cleaning up. We're off the cliff. Brad's like, where are those. Where'd those ladies go? I mean, Brad's leaving with your billfold out the hotel room, but he's also, you know.

I never actually watched that movie. I just know that it has a famous scene at the end. It does. It's quite a movie. I haven't seen it many years. Mark, get us going now. Let's go around the horn. All right.

I always struggle with this. Go get my line. Can I come up with these ridiculous ones and I lose left and right? But I always. This one I believe in that the Giants will not take a quarterback at number six. Giants will not take a quarterback at number six. Interesting. They have two first round picks, six and 17, I believe.

So the first pick, what if they move up or move down or anything? So it's got to be the number six pick. I would think that would nullify. If you're saying they're not taking a quarterback in the six spot specifically, then yeah, that narrows it down. What if they take a quarterback in the fourth spot or the third spot? I think it would rule this. I'm saying they're not taking it at six.

If the bucks moved into number six, then the Giants are not taking a quarterback. to not take that and and I'm just going to throw it well I'm not going to take that you're not maybe I'll go next because mine kind of jumps on top of that Wes I'm not going to take it hmm I won't take it either mine was just that they're taking that they're taking a quarterback in the first round yeah I and so I don't want to have to put it on a number but that they come out of there not with Josh Rosen but that they select a college eligible prospect in the first round well I will not take that. I think they're going to.

They will take a quarterback in the first round. That was my thought as well. You're saying they will, Greg? They will, yes. Mark agrees with you. Yes. So I'm not taking... His point was he was trying to, you know,

trick us into taking number six or something. No, I just got overly specific. Yours was more general. So we all agree the Giants will take a quarterback in the first round. Wait, well, Wes hasn't spoken on this one, on mine. I agree with Greg Oh no Just like

Just off to a riveting start Hey by the way Sandwiches don't need to be taken For entertainment value It's really the friendships that we have That people listen for That's Wilson Hey and I did bring in some burritos

Last time afterwards by the way You said we haven't done any sandwiches I brought some in last time around That's true That's true All right let me shake it up I'm gonna stick with the Giants Because you guys

Yellow Bellies The Giants will take a quarterback Wait a minute First pick I'm always filleted. Wait, this is three ways to ask the same question. Too similar. We're yellow bellies and then you ask the same exact question as a yellow belly.

You're yellow. No, you are also in that club. Yeah, you can't do it now. I boxed you out. Oh, I can't do it at all? That's what I say. All right, I'll throw another one out there then. How about this?

Let's just move away from that entire conversation. What a nightmare. More quarterbacks will be taken in round one than wide receivers and running backs combined. Let's play. Come on. Let's play this game for real. Let's fly. I mean, I'm working on my mock draft for Wednesday and, you know, doing your research, the most people don't feel that more than one running back would possibly go in round one.

And the consensus seems to be about two wide receivers. So you're saying that would need to be four a quarter. If three of those are taking, you're saying it will be four quarter. There have to be more quarterbacks. So if it's three and three, I lose. I will take you just for the. sake of maybe another wide out slipping in there you lose the push i lose the push i'm taking it then yeah me suit me too yeah i think that's how you hang onions right off the back i think that was a good 50 50 i don't know

i don't know what i feel i'm going to take it just because taking it the way to go that is not onions by the way no that was a nice 50 50 50 but you got it you got what you want i hug them and i feel good got a little it's a little drafty but it feels good kiler murray daniel jones dwayne against Drew Locke, all guys rumored, speculated to go in the first round. You got Alabama running back, Josh Jacobs. A lot of people say we'll go in the first round. You have Penn State running back, Miles Sanders. He's in the mix.

And then wide receivers. Who's the guy that Steve Weiss liked on the Twitter show last week? Hollywood Brown. I mean, D.K. Metcalfe, A.J. Brown. Miles Sanders. I think what we're hoping for is a push. Yeah. Or for Drew Locke to maybe slip out of the first round.

or Daniel Jones, one of those guys, but I don't know if I buy that. I never buy that. All right, so there's a nice reminder of how the game's actually played. Wes, you're up. You had the exact same one as us. It was an epic botch. As me, you corrected. You essentially had the same one as me.

You can't buy me. You're not buying it. Everyone listening knows what's happening here. Go, Wes. Everyone knows what's happening here. You threw in that number six thing. A manufactured joke. You threw in that number six, botched the whole thing.

And now it's cool. Why? I think that's actually a specific. A lot of people have. have the Giants just taking a quarterback at number six. I'm saying they'll go against the grain and not. That, I mean, what? It's in the past.

I mean, that's in the past, Mark. Odd critique by you, Dan, but fair. Well, you're picking something that's, like, favored to happen. If you went to Vegas right now, the odds would be they do not take a quarterback, specifically number six, because there's just too many variables. You can move up down, whatever. But I don't think it was a crazy one. All right, let's stay with quarterbacks.

All right, I like it. Quarterbacks are fun. It's the only thing I know anything about. Either the Bengals or the. Lions draft a quarterback in the first two rounds. Ooh, I like that. Bangles or Lions draft a quarterback in the first two rounds. I'll take you, but I love the way you're thinking, and I think you'll deserve,

not just like a sandwich, but like a bag of chips with that. Wow. I'll take it, and because I did like it, I'll give you one of your little dull juice bottles. You like some post-cancer. Do you even like chips? You can choose something else, but you know, something like that. Uh, those, um, what are those voodoo chips from, uh, New Orleans. Okay.

Yeah. A little, uh, what is it? Zabatos or is it? No. It starts with a Z-E, right? Zats. No. Come on, Greg.

That's your region. Those are your people. I know. And I spent like, uh, the voodoo chips are glorious. All of, anything named voodoo's got to be good. All of zaps. Zaps. Zaps.

There we go. Now what I said, the Cajun crotators. That's what I, uh, that sounds like a great sport. freshman year. The Caging Codds. Said zaps. You said, maybe. You said zats, I thought.

Yeah, that's right. Zats. What did you, did you take this? I am not going to take it because I remain convinced the Bengals, not just in the second round, but we'll take a quarterback in the first round. New coach, enough for this Andy Dalton business. You've got to get someone in there to compete against them. Otherwise, what are you doing?

All right. Greg. I've got a few options here. Strategy now. We've got a big part of the game The onion hanger in there I'm going to say the Raiders Take a quarterback in the first round

I will take you up on that one That the Raiders All this little honking You know another option You know I don't know if it's Dwayne Haskins But that's the one that would be the most fun I think So my biggest issue is that everyone lies all the time And the fact that the Raiders have been so strong

On Derrick Carr makes me think They're lying through their teeth and Derek Carr had that tweet when was it Haskins or Murray Murray came in for the workout with the Raiders where he did the side eye emoji which maybe Derek Carr was given a little window

into his soul that he's like, wait a second, are these guys going to bang me in a big spot in the biggest of all spots and ship me somewhere? So you say they're going to do it. I say they're going to take a quarterback in the first round. I'm going to go against my instincts even though I don't trust anyone.

I'm going to say you're wrong. they will stand by Derrick Carr and roll with him. Dan, I'm going to go with you because I think that, like, if you were going to build the roster. So you're taking all three, you're taking me up on it. Yes. Okay, good. I think they might end up with two first round picks instead of three if they make some wheels and deals. But Derek Carr, I mean, unless you find a trade partner, that's 27 million in dead money.

Keeping them around is highly awkward. I don't know who you're going to convince to trade for Derek Carr on any level. I think that would have to happen And I think that's too complex at this point We've heard literally nothing about it Doesn't mean that part of this Getting rid of your scouts Was because there's some sort of mega deal going down

But I'll take you All right Now we're cooking Mark, you're up Maybe you try it in these onions I know I should have saved that That's fine It doesn't have to be in order It's fun that's good

That's a nice onion hanger Kind of Kind of All right I think that the Cleveland Browns are not done attempting to at every step along the way, look at, hey, look at wow is us. We continue to make moves and add players left and right.

We can't control ourselves. Did you go with the little used wow as us instead of what was me? Well, not of woe is me. A wow is us. You sound a little exasperated. I just, I think that day, it would be, it would be fine. Mark's actually no longer a Browns fan. He's giving up on them.

It would be fine in the first round just to chill out for once. You already essentially used the 17th, pick on O'Dell Beckham. I think that to me was a win. But I think that they're going to get antsy in what you could define it as a good or bad way and move back into the first round to get a player that they deem to fill one of their holes. I don't know what it will be. This is not part of the bet, but I could see it being one of those offensive tackles. A sandwich proposition. We don't use the B word here at the NFL. We'll see. But that's my thing. They're going to move back into the first round. Listen to Dr. Rainmaker. I knew where that line was. Dorsey, it was and continues to

be a cowboy. I think he loves people talking about John Dorsey. And that would be something I'd be like, this John Dorsey doesn't know when to quit. This guy's going for the big ring and all that. So I kind of could see it. I like that one. I could totally see them doing that. Half of the goal here is simply pleasing Dan with my so I feel like I don't care what anyone else does. You reeled me and I'm taking it. So you think they will trade back into the first round? I think they will. And I like you're thinking you know the team well, you're plugged into some of these beatwriters

that you're always chatting. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's deep on the dark web. He always likes to act surprised afterwards when one of his little predictions hits, even though he's been working the beatriders team. I have heard the Brown web, the Brown's Dark Web, which, by the way,

has had a great off season. The Brown's Dark Web basically broke that O'Dell Beckham train before anyone else. Mark is kind of part of the dark web of the Brown. So I'm assuming this isn't just coming out of like your brain necessarily, rather it's an informed situation. So I am not going to, to take you on it because that's what's going to happen.

Well, I could tell you that I promise you, I came up with this about 20 minutes ago at my desk. There is no dark weather to be it, but that's fun. Check them out at Ernest Biner, 1985 handle on some weird board. Attempted. You're just imagining the John Dorsey thing, like he likes to be a big cat.

For some reason I think he does. I have the image of Job from Arrested Development where he like just takes off his pants, except John Dorsey, he takes off his cackies and just there's another pair of cackies underneath that would be fun he definitely has multiple layers of that same exact outfit cornered that was good did you did you do it too i'm taking mark i'm taking him too if i wasn't so i'm not you're not taking west and i are taking him wow interesting fun okay we got and again check all this out on go get my lunch dot org

please someone help me out with this one i believe that's correct yeah it's dot org It's an organization, so that makes sense. Yeah, Nick Fortier, who's done an amazing job for years, helping us out with this. It will have all of, not only the all-time standings and a breakdown of every round we've ever done in the past five years or so, including this one. He's very good about updating it as well. Nick, if you're listening, shout out, you are the man. What if he's suddenly, without telling us, decided over it, don't care of doing this handy work and administrative side job. Dan, by the way, has moved into first.

Maybe that's been for a little bit, but Dan's in first right now. been there at 53.7%. I'm pretty close there at 52.7. It really shows how even it all is. And Wes is right at 50. And Mark is really making up that ground underneath the 500 barrier. 46, even.

But you had an iconic round last year. That doesn't sound bad, but he's 20 under. So that's a long way to. Well, I... You had a great 2018 regular season round, though. Yeah. You just got to work at... I don't like the no onion accusation

when if you were to go through some of mine, or they are like... Oh, you are. You're kind of like... It's sane stuff when he doesn't. happened. Absolutely. Sometimes your onions like dipped in like acid or you know like mescaline or something.

You're like the slugger in baseball who hits like 210 but has 38 homers. That's true. And you know, so it's like you're a you're a what they call in baseball a true three outcome player home run walk strikeout. And a locker room problem. Right. You may be in last but like what prop have I

ever made that anyone remembers? You've got that Baker Mayfield one. He's got those bombs to the bleachers. Well you only have to do one. And then it's like you could point to that. The rest are an absolute train wreck. All right, Wes, you're up. Dan's New York Jets make a trade before Saturday. Oh, interesting.

Before Saturday. Before Saturday. I mean, I don't care about one of these little we changed fifth round for like a sixth or whatever. But a second round trade would be enough for you. Yes, before Saturday. I'm not going to take that. I don't think, I just feel like almost any team, what's the chances they make some sort of trade.

I don't know. In the first three rounds? I guess it's like a one in four, one and six chance. But you're right. I think the Jets are just primed to be moving around. Here's why I won't take you on it. We just have a lot of evidence that they are motivated.

First, the reports out there that they really want to get out of the three spot and move back and collect draft picks. Part of the fallout of the Darnold trade, which was an excellent trade. But they lost a second round pick last year and this year. They also gave up a draft pick to get Colace Ossimile. So I believe they only have five picks in this draft, and it's a team with holes.

I think they will try to move back. And also what we're hearing is that the Jets at number three aren't really sure what they want. Ed Oliver. You want me to throw this one out and get some better bait? Why? This is a stinky bit. You guys aren't even turning up your nose at.

If you had said with the three pick, then I probably would have to change it to the three pick. There's not enough action on this. Now and now I have to back up those words. Now I still don't know. so that you think they will move out of the three. And now, I just want more action. I will take you on that.

I'll take you on number three. Wes is suddenly into it. The Reds came through for him over the weekend. That's all say there. Zach Duke. Zach Duke and he's feeling lucky. Yeah, Jets? That's a good one.

I'll take you because I don't know. The one thing is if there were a lineup of quarterbacks that were like top six, top seven dudes, the Jets number three spot would be prime territory to move into. I don't see who's moving up to that spot for what at this point? I partly moved you into this bet by saying I would take it, so I'm going to do that. Because I think it's 50-50,

and I do think at this point, that that would be a good prediction by you that they're moving out of three. I was properly chastens for throwing out a boring prop. And now we're getting a little more interest. I'll take it. I think they want to move. Will they move?

Will they have somebody that will be motivated to do it with him? You know what? I'll take you on it as well. Wow. Dan, Mark? Yes. All right. What West did there was play the game masterfully.

He did the public opinion test that the Cardinals are doing. Didn't work out. We weren't suckers. And now he kind of tricked us into taking it. No, it was more just feeling guilty for being boring. By the way, and that all gets thrown out if the Niners or whoever picks number two does not take Nick Bosa. Jets aren't moving and oba's still there

but everyone says he probably will not be there but we'll have to say we'll find out in 72 hours or so all right I'll throw one more out there speaking of the top five of the first round one of the following teams

will trade into the top five the giants the redskins the dolphins the Broncos one of those four teams will move up to get into the top five presumably to take their next quarterback I am taking you on that one. Giants, Redskins, Broncos?

Or Dolphins. One of those four teams will move into the top five via trade, maybe with the New York Jets. Top five. Settling two prop bets in the process. Yeah, because one of mine was going to be, Haskins goes top six. I'm not going to do that. Jackson, but see, they got to get ahead of the Giants. Broncos?

Giants, Redskins, Dolphins, Broncos. Oh, the Giants get to move up, too, a spot. Mm-hmm. Giants picking six right now. The Redskins picking 15. The dolphins picking 13 and the Broncos picking at... Oh, I'll take you. Why not?

Just for... I mean, why not? Just for Gets and Chiggles. Number 10, the Broncos. Okay, Mark takes me on it. Okay. This is a good one. It's got me really thinking.

I'm going to take you on it. All right. I like it. I feel like there's a chance here. The Giants, decent chance Giants stay there. Hmm. It's tough. Did you make a decision?

Yes, I took it. Okay. Last one. We're running out of time here. Okay. You've got to go a little quick. I'm going to go. The Patriots do not take a tight end in the first two rounds of the draft.

Every mock has a tight end first round. Because what the Patriots like to do is on draft day. is just stick their little middle finger up at everyone. It's a little like kind of on the nose. Do something specific. They like to do that on camera game. Like I do. I want them. I want Noah Fent or whoever.

I want, you know, whoever they can move up, whatever. And that's just what they like to do. I like it. I think they're in a bad position with where they're drafting

because the two top of the three sound like you need to move up to get one of them, even, even Noah fan. And there are, there are some mocks that have three tight ends in the first round. There's a guy, Irv Smith.

So there's a few in the second round. It's a good class. But I don't think they're going to get them late in the second either, so. Who's on their roster right now, tight end? Austin Safarian Jenkins. And Matt LaCasse. Okay, yes, they're going to do it. It will pain Belichick to do it because he'll hate for people to be able to say,

we knew what Bill was going to do and he did it because that's Bill. But I think it's such an important need for them, and Brady needs more weapons and he needs help right now. He's 42 years old, week one. They're going to go get a young tight end they believe can carry the load. Don't forget about exempt international player Jacob Johnson. Oh, I didn't. Signed.

I factored that in. Jacob with a K? With a K. I don't know where he's from, but shout out. Oh, he's from Germany. I mean, the Germans are coming. Deutsche Land. They're coming strong with some of these extra draft picks.

We have the checking with Moritz-Borringer, by the way. I am not taking this one because Belichick's just crazy enough to think that Safarian Jenkins is the answer. I am taking whatever side is they are taking a tight end. Okay, so Dan and Mark took me up on it. There you go. Go get my lunch.org. Nick Fortier is a good man. Hopefully he's listening to this and everything as well because then he will have the updates

and everything lined up for Thursday. Get excited. All right. That's it for today's show. A reminder, big week on the around the NFL podcast. On Wednesday, the first annual Mark Sessler mock draft. Oh, my God, everything's going to change. Forget about all this garbage that's been floating around.

around the football world. There's only one mock that matters. It's Mark Sessler's Wednesday, a special just devoted to that. Also, maybe we'll get Spice Rack involved. He postponed on us today, so I'm trying to decide whether or not Spicey's going to make it in this year. We'd like to have him, but we'll see. And then we'll have a Thursday night show and a Saturday night show covering the draft.

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