NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Draft season trade bait

Episode Date: April 17, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Chris Wesseling, & Gregg Rosenthal – recap all the latest news from around the NFL including Dean Blandino resigning his post as the NFL��s senior vice president of officiating, and defensive tackle Kawann Short singing an $80.5 million deal with the Panthers. Then the heroes discuss which players are possible trade bait this draft season.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, boys? He didn't say what's up, boys. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Wow. Off the rails already. Clean it up in post. Clean it up in post.

What's up, everybody? I had nothing to do that Star Wars drop, by the way, Mark. I mean, it's, you know, it's nothing new. I know it's coming on that subject matter in this room. You did send out a tweet the other day, like how many more years am I stuck with the Star Wars? But I wasn't trolling. I was actually curious how many more of these,

and I was actually stunned to learn that... It will outlast you. It is, we are locked in, because there's already been two in a row, and there's one December, and then the next two years after that, and then perhaps more down the road. That's a lot.

Well, I don't think Disney purchased it for the insane amount of money they did from Lucasfilm to pump out two or three movies and then just say, well, that was nice. I think they intend to cornerstone the entire franchise off of. But the idea. Licensed to print money. I kind of grew up in a world and things are changing where, all right, if you had a major franchise, every two or three years, maybe a new one comes out. This is a new realm. And this is also what I was going to say to you downstairs, Mark. Fast and the Furious had their eighth movie.

There's no movie that it made a half a billion dollars globally box office, $100 million here. There's no part of the zeitgeist that makes me feel more disconnected from people than Fast and the Furious. And then Star Wars, it doesn't help. I feel kind of out of the loop with that too. So this back-to-back thing, I've never felt more out of it. Like, because just by a show of hands or maybe because it's an audio podcast, Don't do that. Have any of us seen any of the eight Fast and Furious movies?

Zero. Not intentionally. Like maybe 10 minutes on TV, not intentionally. Okay. Greg. I've never seen one. I've never seen one, Sydney? I've seen several.

But we're in the minority. I was the only girl in my family growing up. Also, a couple times I got in for free because I worked at a movie theater. So it's worth free. But you've, I mean, you're the average American where you've seen multiple fast in the Furious film. Right. But it's not something I did willingly. right i guess it's inescapable unless you're on this podcast you have some sort of anxiety about your

disconnect i would welcome you to join the disconnected side of society and embrace it it's true it yeah it i feel that same way on masters weekend that will that will that was your nap disconnected from you like everyone oh can't can't wait to take our nap and just watch some masters at this point even the nta tournament i feel a little disconnected i don't it's not a good or bad feeling but i think to your point like dan i obviously grew up in star wars meant something different to me because i think a little bit older than you it's the first movie my dad took me to was the first toys i collected there's a lot more if you had no mean if it had no meaning to you and it's kind of dropped back in your life at age 30 something i totally get your point of view but in general it's

harder to escape all these things that are whether it's master's weekend or fast and furious 26 or everything is coming at us nonstop now you can't escape any of it you have to turn off all channels, all social media outlets to get away from this stuff. It's how I feel about, I mean, people who love cats or maybe hockey as an idea. Square dancing. Hockey isn't an idea. I mean, it's just that I have zero connection to hockey, but other people love hockey. So good for them.

I don't, it's good. I can understand. I just have zero connection to it. One thing you notice about grownups when you get older, we have some bizarre fascinations and interests. Everybody gets into their little niche hobbies and stuff. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah.

What about, like, moms that when you're young, you go into people's friends' houses, and the moms have all turned kitchens into, like, a theme, like I had a... Coca-Cola. Whales. There's hundreds of whales around the kitchen. Oh, no offense. Sit. Damn. Hey, Sid, it wasn't the Easter I was expecting. Didn't see you at the park.

What gives? Fun fact, I may be going after work, so... Wow. This fun bit. Just rushing down through rush hour traffic? I mean, how would you possibly deal with that traffic? No, she'll deal. There's a light at the end of the tunnel, a bright light full of magic and happiness.

It's a real... That is. This is the Monday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, driven by Hyundai. Welcome to the show, everybody. A great show today. A lot to get to some big news out there, including... you know, whenever you can talk about Dino, Blandino in a big spot, when you can lead the news with the Dean Meister.

We're going to do it around these parts. He's probably hoping this is the last time we lead the news with him. Because if it happens again in his next role, like something's probably gone wrong. It's Jerry Austin. Something's got wrong. So anyway, we'll do some news. We're also going to, the draft, by the way, is 10 days away now, just 10 days away from the 2017 NFL draft. So we will take a look.

Chris Wessling is in the process of writing a banger about established NFL players who are trade bait that could be tied into trades that involve draft picks. It's a fun little exercise. So we all rubber-stamped it and away we go. That's how it works around here. Democracy. Also, I mean, a great idea in its own right,

but, you know, we're kind of running out of ideas at this point. Draft's got to get here. Got to get here. So, yeah, that's today's show. And, uh, Sid, I think, why don't we get into it? Let's do a little bit of news. How fun. Just turn around and look at you dingus.

Actually, the lead, the lead news, by the way, is actually going to, you know what? I'm going to save it. You're going to bury the lead. Burry the lead. The old bury the lead. Start with Dino Blandino, who is the NFL Senior Vice President of Officiating. He is leaving the gig for a network television position, according to a memo that was obtained by Rapsheet and Adidi Kinkabwala. This, I don't know where he's going.

CBS makes a lot of sense. He's not going to Fox because Mike Pereira is in that position. No, the report is he is going to Fox. They're doubling up. They're basically right. Wow, that is a power move. Ray and Garapolo, that's what they're doing here. So what is it?

Their number one and number two teams are going to have like a... They're going to play off each other. That's pretty good. That's a nice job. Well, I also was thinking like in the playoffs when Pereira's in one place, Plantinos and another. They do. When he travels.

But they never have Pereira, they don't travel. In the playoffs, in the playoffs, they have him travel. You're in the regular season, he's in the studio. So I don't know what they're going to do. Maybe they'll send one out on the road and Pereira stays out. Pereira gets earlier to his Tito's and... Yeah, he loves Tito's, which I respect him about that.

Now, but the big news, I guess, from an NFL standpoint, and it did make some waves, is that Blandino has obviously a big role in that room, that command center for replay and him leaving for a TV job right after the owners voted to expand the powers of the instant replay command center left some people scratching their heads. and I guess he maybe kind of irked some people.

And I even saw something out there that maybe the owners wouldn't have voted that way if they would have known that Blondino was missing or leaving, to which I will say, Chris Wessling, if it was that much tied into Dean Blandino, you should have never voted anyway in favor of this. They should have someone else that's competent that can handle these duties. Well, I think they like Dean Blandino because he's been pretty good on television. He's good at explaining things.

Even things he might not believe in, he explains pretty well. Al Riveron is his first lieutenant. Nobody's ever seen him on television. So I think he's a complete unknown in that area. And coaches, you know, according to this Albert Breer article that he wrote about, you know, coaches and front office people often kind of, you know, went into a lot of conversations with Blandino hot under the collar and he talked him down. He was good at communicating.

I don't know. It shouldn't be that big of a deal, though. I also thought this change in the rule isn't that big of a change from what it was before. Essentially, that room was already deciding. It's just making a little more official, making it a little cleaner. I mean, if we can replace, you know. We're going to be okay. We can replace Dean Blanee.

Everybody calmed down a little. I'm making part of the news is that Peter King wrote an MMQB part on this, how a friend of Blandino said that he's 45, he's married, he has two children under five. He probably didn't want to work 80 hours a week. This is really good for him. Another friend said that he long fancied himself a future team. TV guy.

So it kind of, there must have someone who was close to him. People, even inside the NFL, must have known he was not potentially for long, but they didn't tell the owners this. They didn't make that clear to any of them, and the timing is. Anybody that's going to get on Blandino in a serious way needs to really reevaluate themselves. But I will say this. You know, Daddy values sleep. I get that.

I get this whole thing. Daddy is the father of a two and a half year old and a five-month-old. month old. You being the daddy. And daddy, when he's trying to sleep on Friday morning before, you know, right around when the sun's coming up, because he's got a big day ahead of him, is getting a breaking text alert on my phone telling me that someone at my company handed in their two-week notice.

Let's count down a little bit with the breaking news that the guy in the command center is taking another job. Let's calm down. Can I give you my mac, my macro view on this? Yeah. On one hand, your sport is so healthy, it's so prosperous that a network feels compelled to put two people in a booth to explain what's going on. On the other hand, your rules are so esoteric, so arcane that you need to hire two people to explain them to other human beings watching your game, maybe have better roles. That's fair.

How about the daddy thing, Mark? Could not agree more. I mean, I thought you were going down the road of this guy, Blandino, moving away from an 80-hour week job to something that's kind of like he says he gets to be home every day, kind of chill with his kids, have a low-pressure scenario. Daddy likes the idea of all of that, too. Is Daddy ever coming back?

Or soon Daddy won't be a daddy anymore. You can know there's two roads here. You could put the phone, you know, put the phone away. I mean, you know, what do you want from me? I got the phone by my side. I don't have a landline. moving on the carolina panthers did some business on monday signing started defensive tackle came on short to a five-year deal according to the team's official site rap sheet reported the pact

is worth 80.5 million with 35 million guaranteed short gets 40 million over the first two years that's 16 million a season and i'll tell you this is the uh this you got to when you look at these contracts, what the agent's looking for, look at the names that are attached to it in the similar neighborhood, Marcel Darius, Donovan Sioux, Fletcher Cox. It's a lot of money. Greg, is it worth that type? Is he worth that type of investment? K.1 Short.

40 million over the next two years is significantly more than Aaron Rogers and some other quarterbacks make, which is, it's not a totally fair comparison because they have signing bonuses at the front of their deal. But that is intense. That said he's a top five defensive tackle. Why have they been saving up money cap room, which they have plenty of? Why didn't they sign Josh Norman?

It should be to keep your best players. And Kwan Short is the best panther there is other than Cam Newton. So it's fine. It's just the going rate and these prices are going to keep going up and up. And he turned into a great, great pick by Dave

Gettleman, a pick that a lot of people criticized at the time. They said he had inconsistent effort. It was kind of a boom or bus guy. People thought they even reached for him, even in the middle of the second round, and he's turned into a star. It's hard to find an impact front seven player after the

first round. And Gettelman did. He found him in the second round. You're right. His motor was question coming out, but he's been their, outside of Kekley, he's been their best defensive player. Do we still think this front seven is what it's been before that it can be? It wasn't last year, but I, like,

like what they've done this off season by bringing in peppers, by re-signing Addison. They're pretty deep. Starload Lele will be in a contract year, you know, maybe trying to play for that money. Is that how you say it? Yeah, how do you say it? The Lutal. Go on. I think you just hope Luke Keeckley stays healthy, that he doesn't have any more concussions because

on paper, this is one of the best front sevens in the league. They drafted Vernon Butler to kind of fill in there, so that that's a nice rotation. I mean, Short, who started off a little slow last year, finished very strong, and he's been sensational the last two years. In fiction or reality news, Tom Savage reported to the Texans. Top Savage is real. Offseason workouts on Monday, which started for teams. And, you know, he's very excited with the opportunity.

Now that Brock Osweiler has been moved to Cleveland. Now, Tony Romo has moved to Phil Sims' old neighborhood, and Savage said he believes it's going to be a fun and peaceful QB room. What does that mean, Mark? I don't even know what that means. To me, I wonder if it's kind of a shot on Brock Osweiler, because by the end of last year in Houston, Osweiler, who the pressure was on him,

is getting into verbal and nearly physical altercations with the head coach. that had to have been bubbling up for months and months as his season was melting down. You remove him and also Tom Savage today has no ostensible competition. That's going to change. That's going to change. But right now, yes, it's peaceful.

Will it be Tom Savage that's starting to be upset about things about a month from now, possibly? I mean, that was a sign that there was drama, which we heard about and that maybe it affected the rest of the team in Osweiler and O'Brien. This was a problem the whole time. I watched this press conference. and Savage was a little bit of ornery.

Like he was a little bit... Ornery, huh? A little bit defensive. And, you know, maybe I... Ornery man talks about peaceful locker room. Yeah. Maybe I would be, too, because I think he believed after three years in the league

and a couple starts that he had gotten past this whole question of whether he was a real person or not. Like he... Yeah. Like, you know, there was that big theory that he was just a figment of the draft undone, industrial complex, kind of a dream of Gil Brantz, and not a real human being, but he's still holding on to this.

I'm going out there to play for everybody in that locker room and everybody who believes in me. Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real. I mean, the day after Easter, when I got some pointed questions about who put the eggs where for my daughter, and she was questioning, you know, the legitimate. of the Easter Bunny and whatnot. You could see that Tom, you know,

Tom Savage is still struggling with that. What are her thoughts on Tom Savage? Craig's daughter is a contrarian in an early age. That is early for her to be asking big questions like that. She's like four, right? Well, she's five, but she figured out, like, how do you know where the eggs are? But that's, you know what?

That's so funny to bring that up because the same thing happened in my backyard yesterday. my friend and his family came over and they have a five-year-old son who said, where are the eggs? And I said, they're here. They're in the backyard. And he says, I don't see them. He said, oh, actually, because Jack's,

he was taking a nap at the time. I said, until Jack wakes up, only grown-ups can see the eggs. The Easter bunny makes eggs visible to children. But I mean, that's, but this is the type of bullshit. How long did that? Of course they did. Kids believe anything.

They're stupid kids. They're dumb. My children. Not Greg's kid. No, I mean, all kids are stupid. That is different. Let's be honest. My two are, they're six and four.

And all they knew was that the eggs contained candy. They were not asking deeper questions about the origin who put them there or anything. I think she saw like a right aid little sticker on one of them. You got to be better than that, though. You got to be better than that. What do you got, what do you got right aid stickers on the Easter eggs for? On the, you know, the bunny candy. Come on.

What are we doing? My point being is she's a very precocious, sweet girl. Yes. She's going to be asking questions. But if you just feed her a good line, she's just going to roll with it probably. Most kids. She'll, she'll be the type she pretends to roll with it, but she already knew. She already knew.

Wow. You got your hands full. Got a little female Greg on your hands. Let's move on. Talk about Angela. Female Craig. I mean, I mean, if we're going to be real about it, I feel a closer connection. And that.

To my daughter. No person is more like me on this planet than else, which makes some sense. She's going to be a pain in the ass. Nobody more prepared to deal with her than you. What a battle that's going to be once she gets into a team. Or it's going to be like, this is what I have wrought, all the terrible things about, no, not terrible. All those, you know, things about myself that are difficult that I made on my parents, it's coming back in me. Can you even imagine, like, a 16-year-old female version of Greg against, like, 50-year-old Greg?

What a battle. Fascinating to watch. You've got to get cameras in the house for that. Wow. And your wife is going to have a front row seat for all of it. She's got an answer. Like it or not? I mean, Alice has an answer for everything.

Let's talk about Andrew Luck, who revealed during a meet and greet with reporters on Monday that his January shoulder surgery originated from an early season injury suffered in 2015. Odd. It originally occurred a couple years ago against the Tennessee Titans and we sort of sat down after that year and felt like rehab was the way to go and I think that was the absolute correct decision. We did some awesome things and then this year happened obviously and what transpired through this year and sat down after this year

and decided that, you know what, maybe it was time to do surgery on it. Mark, does this surprise you that he hurts himself and what? late September, early October 2015, and he has surgery. Was this handled correctly, you think? Well, I couldn't know. I mean, he went out of his way to say the training staff couldn't have done more. It couldn't have been more collaborative. And then we went out as a team and a player to get all the information one year later.

I agree with what Wes basically said the minute this news hit was that you could tell all along something wasn't right. And he basically said that much last training camp that he didn't want to say outright, but he's not been healthy since essentially the start of week 3 in 2015. Yeah, I have theorized since that early 2015 season that Luck was playing injured with an arm, a throwing arm injury, and I've been waiting for the smoking gun that finally arrived today and him admitting that it was an injury that eventually necessitated surgery.

And look, he was on the injury report most of last year with a shoulder injury, missed a lot of practice. and one thing I got from Jim Mersey's comments a few weeks ago on luck was how much luck went through all of last year when he played well for the most part. It was a good year for Andrew Luck, but that it was a real struggle to get him ready for some of those games last year. So you would hope it's a big risk that he comes back

and he's good to go for week one, but you would hope this leads to a better Andrew Luck. This is what Jim Mersey said in London, last year, three months after Luck signed the biggest contract in NFL history. There isn't some kind of chronic shoulder injury or anything like that. I promise you there are no surgeries planned. He is fine and the shoulder is something that just disappears into the woodwork when he wins his next MVP or when he wins a Super Bowl.

I cannot shake the feeling that the cults are a mess. I don't like the use of the word. I promise you when he was ultimately lying. Yeah, I know, Wes, you said you've been liking some of the moves that the cults are making, and maybe the surgery will be a success, and he'll be with Andrew Luck of Old. I don't know. I just, something about this organization spooks me. I'd take this team still.

I think they might, I don't know. Just because they have Andrew Luck and they have a passing game, I believe in, I still kind of give them the edge over that division. Let's see what happens. Assuming it's Andrew Luck. Assuming it's Andrew Luck. What happens in the draft, but I always find the Colts pretty interesting. Let's move on and talk about Brandon Albert, the Jaguars,

another team that began their off-season workouts today. Brandon, Albert, not in the building. Rap sheet reported Monday morning that Albert was not present at the first team meeting and the lineman is holding out for a new contract. This is the same Albert that was acquired from the Dolphins this offseason in exchange for a seventh round pick. He's 32. He signed a five-year, $47 million deal in 2014.

It's not a holdout because it's not... It's not mandatory practices, but this is the new cycle of April 16th, so some people are going to make more than this than what it really is. I think in football more than any sport, the beat writers are complicit in doing the coach's bidding for them, and that's why you see stories like this that a guy is holding out of something voluntary,

which makes no semantical sense whatsoever. We should change the wording on NFL.com then. I thought the same thing, Greg. Which I did. That used to be an editorial edict that we had. Don't use the word holdout for these things. Because he's just trying to get, it's the middle of April. They'll work it out.

He's sitting out. Well, he went to Jacksonville with the understanding that they would look at his contract and potentially redo it. And that just hasn't happened yet. Moving on. Roddy White's done. Well, we knew he was done. But now it's official that he's done just about one year after he was cut by the Atlanta Falcons.

He announces retirement in a series of tweets thanking the owner, the organization, the Falcons organization, the city of Atlanta. This ends a great career for a guy who's a 27th overall pick in 2005, 2005, finished with over 800 catches, almost 11,000 yards, 63 touchdowns, 171 games over. 11 seasons was the first first team all pro once had 115 catches one year i mean this guy was a stud west where do you put him rank him uh in top top 10 receiver of the last 15 years is he that good top 20 he's going to end up in my opinion just below chad johnson in the hall of very good and when you look at football careers this is such a hard sport he played 11 years he was really good for six of them he could have been a pro bowl in all six of those seasons and he had five years where he was kind of like a net minus for the falcons five years

five years was the first two of his career in the last three of his career okay okay well he was yeah he was someone a good warning to not call guys bust too early in their career he was a guy who got killed for the drops that he had earlier in his career couldn't uh couldn't really catch Sean, and then he turned out to be one of the most fun players to watch because of his toughness. I mean, it's funny that early in his career, he was knocked for drops because when I think of Roddy White, I think of how many tough catches he made after the catch in the middle of the field. Like, just you always got a lot of effort out of Roddy White. So, you know, he was a fun guy.

Can't help but think, though, that for either younger Falcons fans or people that don't want to remember his entire career, that he's also remembered for when he finally left, they signed Mohamed Sanoo and Taylor Gabriel and the offense blows up. The last couple years in Atlanta were not, he felt like he was there a little bit too long in Atlanta. Yes, he was kind of a great example of a veteran who ends up hanging on too long and then gets cranky

at the very end and becomes more of a pain than a help. And other retirement news, Andre Johnson, who was out of football. Was he out of football last year entirely? I know that he went to the Colts and then he, I think... He retired. Well, he signed a one-day contract. He signed a one-day contract to retire formally with the Texans.

Just wanted to throw that in there. I mean, if we're talking about Roddy White and Andre Johnson is doing some type of retirement stuff. Got to put him in there. I probably go to the hall fame. My memory is often cloudy, but he retired in October. He said, I'm retired. Oh, yeah. We did a whole show on it.

I think now... I mean, not the whole show, but we did a whole... Well, you don't get to come out like in April when you've already retired and say, Hey, hey, I'm retiring. I just hope everybody forgot it so you can get double the accrues. Well, you know, the Texans need something. He's literally the greatest player in their history. Am I wrong?

Is there a greater Houston Texan of all time? J.J. Watts can be right. Well, but so far, he's certainly the greatest to retire. So, you know, you let him have his little. I mean, they just had a Josh Scobie press conference for crying out loud. When I retire in 40 to 50 years, I'm going to then retire again and then hold a press conference at the shop right of Pearl River, which is the place I first worked.

You're not retiring for 50 years. Well, hey, listen, I'm going to save it for the politics podcast, but what's going on with our Social Security situation? You know, am I going to be taken care of the way prior generations were for the economics podcast? We're going to give you a Jordan Gross-like send-off, complete with slideshows. Barbershop quartet involved. My favorite ever.

And finally, it is the Lions. unveiled new uniforms. They brought, let's see what they did. They got, there's no black, I hate the black, what do they call those?

The alternative, they brought some, a grayish color, which I like, dark steel gray, which is technically called, let me get this name. Is it like,

so I've never heard of this word before. Anthracite, anthracite. All right. I don't accept it. I don't know. The only issue I had with, the uniform and and the browns went down this road and I didn't like it then where they put

browns down the side of the leg now we have lions and texts across the sleeve um shack happened to be in the newsroom when I wrote this and he gave me uh he gave me a quote why does the sleeve have to say the team name like nobody knows who they are well I'll say like Dave why does the sleeve have to why does the sleeve have to say the team name like nobody knows who they are that says self-esteem issues, fella. I get where Dave's coming from with that one. I mean, I couldn't agree more that that should not be a trend.

I just wish the NFL would allow some of these teams, because this has been a, I'd say 80% of the uniform changes, lions excluded, have been kind of disastrous over the last, since we've been doing this podcast. The Jaguars, I'm not a huge fan of that, the Bucks. A lot of times we don't want to even

watch the Bucks, the Browns was a major misstep. This five-year waiting period, I'm going to keep banging this drum. You've got to reduce this. If you make a mistake and your team doesn't look good and you say you're stuck in this situation on top of your own issues as a roster for five years, I understand you can't do it every year.

Move that down to two seasons. If you really make a misstep, allow that team to get out of it. Maybe every team gets one mulligan every... Or call it a mulligan every decade. Why is this so hard? I mean, the best uniforms are the ones that always stay the same. Quit tinkering. Find a good one and stay with it.

You're right. The five-year thing is crazy. I mean, we could leave this office right now, walk two blocks down, and go buy some guns. You know, like I could go have my daughter go buy some guns. How are you going to bring us back to the lions? You don't have to wait at all. You got to wait five years for a uniform change.

Greg. Saving for the gun control podcast. How is he bringing this back to the lion's uniforms? The gun shop across the street. There really is a gun shop across street. Oh, I remember when they're a historical old. It's been around. for decades.

You can buy swords there, too. Yeah. It's not a joke. It's a real place. And it has lines formed out of it on Saturday morning if you drive. If you buy there. Slightly disturbing.

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from on this we'll have to talk to a shadowy league figure about this because the more i think about it the more it annoys me it is annoying i didn't even need to need to think about it a lot it annoyed me from the jump all right let's uh move on and uh oh man the draft is 10 days away and it's not just 10 days away there's something else going on with the draft this year wes it's outside So as you, as everyone knows, it listens to the show, we're incredibly excited about just the hyper specifics of the event starting with its location. But there's also a lot to be intrigued with about the actual draft. Do you know how many things could go wrong when you have an event outside?

Rain, sleep, snow, earthquake, earthquake, super storm. Airplane crash. That's true. A total national tragedy. to the history of circuses at the turn of the century. You got a fire hazard waiting to happen, too. So you want to go outside? Well, you better be ready to hang some serious onions.

Save it for the Turn of the Century Circus podcast. Anyway, so with the draft coming up, which is outdoors, a part of the trade. A part of the draft is the trades that happen. And that's one of the funny things about mock drafts that people obsess over them. And then the draft day comes and two or three trades happen and blows apart all these theories

about how teams will behave come draft day. So Chris Wessling is in the process of writing a likely banger, put it that way, about he has a breakdown of 10 different names, ranked 1 to 10 players that are real trade bait this time here, which, you know, players that can, teams can take. of their vets and spin them to better drap positioning or the entire new picks and all that fun. And Wes, since you will be writing this piece, who do you want to start talking about?

Well, I have them listed and most likely to be traded at the top of the list to least likely to be traded at the bottom of list. Makes sense. Everybody knows Marshawn Lynch is going to be traded, right? It sounds like it. The second most likely guy, in my opinion, is a Jets star, Sheldon Richardson. what are you hoping to get in return for him dan i i'm i'm not like stupid enough or silly enough to think that they can get a first round pick and it doesn't sound like they're going to get a second

round pick so i've now reached the point where i'm hoping a mid round pick in a ideal world a third round pick and if that if that's not offered i stick with sheldon richardson and then see how this year plays out and and and and see mo wilkerson's money isn't guaranteed after this year, let it play out a little bit, but third round pick is probably what I would take at this point. He's like a souped up Timmy Jernigan who just got traded for like 20 spots in the draft. Right. So that would indicate that a third round pick would be difficult because you're not just trading

for Sheldon Richardson. You're trading for Sheldon Richardson at one year $8 million. It's not cheap. You're paying them at a... Two suspensions. at a top shelf defensive lineman rate just for one year, too. No guarantee past that. What if a smart team picked him up for one year at $8 million,

got Pro Bowl level play out of him, and then let him walk and picked up a compensatory pick around the same level? I don't think it's a crazy idea to trade a fourth round. I would trade a fourth round pick for one year of Sheldon Richardson, for sure. But would you want to be a competitive team at that point then? Because it's got to be frustrating for the Jets, who have talked about potentially, you know,

there's been talks about maybe moving Richardson the last off season and this off season, that he really burnt his own value last year by being a bit of a headcase too. And he's got all this off the field. Didn't play well either. So it's like he, you know, this was a quest by the Jets.

He's done them no favors, but it's still still, I like him in number two. It's very possible. Here's the problem too. He has been a bit of a head case and has had the suspensions, but he was being played out of position last year.

And the Jets have to rectify that. I don't want them settling for 30 cents on the dollar in this. If they can't get any real value and they're talking about a day three draft pick, I say just hold on to him and see how he comes back next year. This guy, wasn't his effort questioned and then he called out Brandon Marshall for some things. Marshall and Richardson were in a blood war in the locker room last year. And Marshall's gone and Richardson's being shopped. So you could read into that however you were.

Didn't he have a text or some tweet or messaging about not even trying that hard at late in the year as well? It was a strange Snapchat on another player's device where he said he was looking forward to, well, he was saying it was something like, F this game, but he said it was like F this guy, and he was referring like a reply, you know, I don't know. It's messy. I can't even keep up with this stuff. It was some type of Snapchat minutia that he thought was unfairly immolive. I mean, the crazy thing is after his second season, we would have ranked him as one of the most valuable defense

line contracts in the NFL? What more would you rather have than Sheldon Richardson kind of coming off that great second year? Mark's great fear of like players leaving and becoming great elsewhere. I know that's going to happen to Sheldon Richardson if he gets his head on straight and gets to play in the right position. If he goes to Oakland where he could fit in nicely with the team. You mean they're not going to make him a 300 pound linebacker?

Right. They need to, the just need to figure, they got to get rid of one of these guys and I'm talking about Wilkerson or Richardson. And I wouldn't rule out them thinking about Wilkerson as that guy. had this amazing line and now they keep it's like snacks is gone now you're going to get rid to the point where you don't what were they the sons of anarchy oh yeah harrison wilkerson and richardson what a run it was what a special time it was yeah you still got lany williams though yeah he's not a son yeah he's a type of guy team should be going after because he's done it

you don't need to project whether he can be a good NFL player he has been well you have richard Sherman third on this list I'm surprised Is that going to happen So that means you mean You're saying by number three You feel like he will probably be traded There's a decent chance to you

More than decent chance I feel like three through six on this list They're all kind of like 45% chance they get traded Slightly less than 50% The rare 4555 split offered up by Wes here Well if all six were traded That would be quite an active draft

Michael Kendrick should probably be higher. I just don't know if anybody will give up much for him, which is a surprise because just a couple of years ago, guys were talking about him being one of the best, you know, four three linebackers in the NFL. Then they went to a different defense and now he doesn't fit. But Michael Kendrix, he's got some upside too. Maybe I'll move him up to three by the time I published.

I think that makes sense just because they really don't have a spot for him and they seem to want to trade him and like Richardson, but certainly at a lower level. Like he's shown he's a good NFL player, and he's not old. Malcolm Butler here at four below Sherman. So now you're kind of, is the conventional wisdom now that he stays. His restricted tender is due to be signed at the end of this week. He is not at voluntary practice.

What's the Patriots incentive for trading him? I don't think they have a great one unless it's a really good offer. So I think if I were the Patriots, I would just keep. What about if one of these, Bill Barnwell had an interesting mock draft? where it was every single entry made a major trade. And there was a huge three-way trade between the Patriots, the Browns, and the Saints that ended up with Malcolm Butler finally ending up in New Orleans. Like maybe it needs to be more than just a simple, you know, pick for Malcolm Butler type.

Barnwell actually wrote that piece at the Browns Complex in his office. Apparently. You don't see too many three-way trades in the NFL. No, but it was a fun read. You have at number six, Alfred Morris, which is I forgot Alfred Morris existed. so it's good to see him just back on here for clicks oh he's a click yeah he's just on here for click get a bag of spoons just name name players on the list you know the cowboys are shopping him there was a report in early

march that they're trying to get something for him they re-signed darren mcfadden to be zeke elliott's backup so they're alfred morris probably will not be on the cowboys roster whether that's by release or trade can he play i thought he looked really good in preseason in the first few weeks last year i just think it was a bad fit. When you take Zeke off the field, you probably want a change of pace guy or a guy who's really good in the passing game. And Alfred Morris is really, he needs the ball 250 times. It'd be good for him to go somewhere else, too. Yeah, he needs a change of scenery for sure.

I mean, yeah, he's not good in the passing game. I don't think they can get anything for him. Not even like, like between the tackles. Not even like a Lendale White. We move up 10 spots and you move down 10. How about like a subscription to People magazine? Is that still around? I feel like people would rather have a fifth round draft pick than Alfred Morris. No, that's true. To answer your question, Wes, People Magazine is still around.

They published a story on their website that said that I was the owner of the Patriots. Really? So they have no editorial board, but they're publishing stories. They're on the way down. Oh, wait, that was entertainment tonight. I apologize people. Wow. Hey, people of people.

I'm sorry. I'm not singling out people. I'm just surprised that magazines exist in 2017. All right. Not as much. I just looked up people.com just to confirm. You know, it's always good to have a second source. A little bit of breaking news here.

Brad Pitt keeps it casual during rare sighting outside his art studio in L.A. Wow, that's on the lead of people. That's their featured story. That's essentially in their world. That's like Jimmy G. getting traded right now. People come back to us. I mean, I get it.

You want them to be reported. That feels right in their wheelhouse, Brad Pitt's clothing scenario. But doesn't that feel like maybe bottom of the stack? Like, best case scenario, top headline piece. But the featured story above the fold. You want like Zach Fron in like insane breakup with Fiery X? Well, I think like this is the. editor makes you write about Tebow portion of their website.

Maybe the writer should have turned down. That feels like the entire, you know, publication. Right. Maybe the writer has some editorial leverage of his own where he could just say, look, I'm not writing about Brad Pitt's clothes today. I mean, in their defense, they have a picture along with it,

and, yeah, he kept it pretty casual. I have some more breaking news. If anyone's interesting. Again, reading their headline. She's back. Allison Sweeney is returning to days of our lives. Well, I know that I can breathe a sigh of relief. Legend.

Okay. Oh, here's, so you have three quarterbacks at the bottom of this list, Wes. A.J. McCarran, Jimmy Garoppelow, Kirk Cousins. Mark, I'll ask you, put them in order from most likely to be traded in the next 10 days to least likely. Well, I can't disagree with what Wes is. but I think that A.J. McCarran, it sounds like the Bengals would potentially be open to that. And Jimmy G. sounds like it would be ultra expensive, and the Patriots aren't particularly interested in doing it. And Kirk Cousins is staying in Washington. You've got to convince me otherwise.

So he had him 7, 8, and 10. I like what he had number 9, too. I get the sense that Bengals overvalue McCarran to such an extent that he's not going to be traded. and every reporting from every reporter is that Garoppolo is simply not on the market. I mean, we're either, because there was a certain point where you were skeptical of if the Patriots were just sort of playing this as a game. But now I think we've reached the point where if he was traded, we'd all be surprised. Like people are, we've bought this. I've bought it personally that they really just aren't going to trade them.

Well, doesn't it feel like Cleveland's, I mean, who knows what's happening behind the scenes, but there's no smoke there either. They've kind of gone quiet on their side. Rapsheets' latest reporting on this issue is that the Browns have made it clear they intend to make one last run at Jimmy Garoppel, but they're not holding out a lot of hope. Can someone fill me in on why A.J. McCarrant would be a hot property for anyone? I think he would fit potentially in Cleveland, not as a,

I don't think a long-term answer, but he knows Hugh Jackson's offense. They like each other. And so there's that. That's significant. Should the Browns be looking for a long-term answer? I think the answer is Cody Kessler and Tom Savage is why A.J. McCarran might appeal to some people. And maybe this year's class of quarterbacks, unless you're in love with one of them, you don't. He showed some things.

I mean, McCarran had a decent little run. Like a game and a half. And since we brought- Well, and so did Jimmy G. Well, Jimmy G. had a spectacular game and a half. I mean, McCarran started, what, six games? And he played for a while. did not play that well in that playoff. Karen looked like a high-end backup.

Jimmy G. looked like when he played, he looked like a top 10 quarterback. Well, and that's why Jimmy G, when you talk about coming back to New England with another offer, you're going to have to blow them away. And that's why I don't think New England can completely close the door because this is the best thing in the world for them. What if you come back with something

you never you thought you would get? For a guy that has the same agent as Tom Brady and probably doesn't want both of them on the roster next year, so after this season. So you're not necessarily going to keep Jimmy G. Unless you choose to franchise them, which is incredibly expensive.

The agent is Don Yee, correct? Oh, boy. Hey, Don. No, we want a cookbook, right? We wanted a cookbook. Yeah, well, hey, Don. How hard is this? Hey, Don.

Hey, buddy. You got a good life. Don Brady is your number one client. Jimmy Garoppolo is going to get $100 million in a couple years. I bet you send a cookbook to the around the NFL team. Send it over to Mark Sessler. He's been looking for it. nobody will get back to him on it

the guy who just wants a cookbook the Tom Brady cookbook that's 200 bucks just send it to us and Mark will talk about the cookbook and there's your promotion in lieu of $200. Support Mark's health. Pretty easy arrangement for him, I believe.

Seems like a reasonable request. Don. Got a bunch of them sitting around in plastic. If anyone's listening to this podcast that knows Don Yee, please let him know that the around the NFL podcast is nicely asking for. for one of Tom Brady's stupid cookbooks. And finally, you have Eric Decker at number nine, another jet.

And this one makes a lot of sense. To me, a guy can play if he comes back from these surgeries. Not too old yet. He's going to be 30, 31. Feel like he could help someone. And that would not cost a lot again. He's so low on the list because you don't often see trades for a guy who's months away from being able to pass a physical. Right.

I mean, he's coming off some. serious injuries. I mean, a hip surgery on top of another surgery is no joke. I would think if he was healthy, he would be the type of guy that they could get a little something for, maybe a move down in the draft or a low pick, because he's been productive, and it really sounds like they are going to get rid of him because two separate Jets reporters wrote within the same day of each other that they thought Decker was not going to be on the team, one way or another.

They're getting that. It doesn't make any sense for them to be on the team. They're in a total rebuild. They actually have some nice young pieces at wide receiver to try to develop. So I hope, and I like Decker. That was such a fun season with him and Marshall. I hope both of them have success wherever they land. Well, one, we know.

Hopefully magnanimous of you. Yeah, that shows. I'm not a bitter man. That's where we're stuck at with our teams. You've got to just wish these people well as they go on to Greenland Pastures at this point. That's it. By the way, all those high-priced guys, the Jets cut with the exception of Marshall.

So what are we looking at? Fitzpatrick, Revis, Nick Mangold. None of them have jobs. What does that say? Well, it says a lot about last year's Jets. Ryan Clayty is another one. Ryan Clayty is another one. What a light.

Anyway, yeah, so check out Wes's piece. West, did you have a couple names that were out of the top 10 if you want to talk about any of them. No, they were deemed, check it out. They were deemed inessential. Inessential, which means we're not going to talk about them. So check out Wes's banger, set to land on Wednesday. Sometime.

Or Thursday. I brokered a deal where I have no deadline. That's quite a deal. How'd you pull that off? He's got Don Yee representing him. I went to my editor instead of the other editor. I went to David Ely. A little peek behind the curve.

Editor-on-Editor. Crime. I like that. Positioning. Ely works with me, you know. Look at Wes playing the game, sub-tweeting people on the podcast right now, just shooting arrows through the air at intended targets that he won't name. But we all know who it is. There are, look, there are some, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's some real heavy-duty fire on these deadlines. Wes is playing the game.

And if you don't want in on the game, get out. There's an old expression, Greg. Yeah. What is it? If it's too hot in that kitchen, skedaddle. Exit. That's catchy. All right.

That's it. That's it. We'll be back on Wednesday with another show. A show that I'm looking, West just gave a peek behind the curtain. I am efforting to have a guest. come by with the draft coming up on Wednesday. We'll see if we can procure this individual.

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And finally, go to iTunes and leave comments and star ratings. And we might just read them if you're not a petty jerk. That's it. Dan, did you want to give the people an update on the Shield? Oh, yeah. Thank you, Sid. The Shield opened the season with a 27 to 7 win over Barney's beanery, an absolute shellacking.

Playball! I was, as the manager of the team, I was very pleased by, by the way that we started the season. The opponent was not the same opponent that we defeated in the finals last year, even though it was being played by the same or representing the same bar. But to me, that was a smaller picture thing. The big picture thing is that everyone was hitting. Everybody was crisp in the field.

We didn't play a sloppy game. We got pepper spray in there. Wes, your thoughts on game one of the shield, a 27-7 win. It was a best-case scenario. Well, best case for me being that the team we played in the championship game that rolled through the regular season last year with like a 13 and one record, they were a vestige of their former team. Strike three, you're out.

They had like four players left from that team. So I think we broke them. We actually broke them. Yeah, it's restaurant industry. Maybe all those people at Barneys after you destroyed them in the final in an unprecedented tale in the softball world, they scattered to new restaurants, new bars. My favorite part of the game is hearing from one of the members on their team

that they found the article that Kwan wrote on NFL.com talking about the Shields victory last year and passed it around amongst themselves, and they thought it was great. Their bulletin board material did not help them. No, they should refrain from bolton board material going forward. We are, my assessment, Dan, is that we are in much better shape this April than last certainly but in no way am i using that game as a measuring stick of where we are 10 and 2

i would be thrilled to go 8 and 4 playoffs either way just got to get all you get to do is get into the dance defend the crown baby nice start gregg were you happy you weren't happy with your you're i made a couple outs you know so uh i'll be better and i you know if you're gonna make a couple outs do it in a game uh where you win 27 to 7 so i'm it's just good to be part of the team. Greg's part of organized sports. He's a little hard to himself. That one hit that he had was a right-handed hitting version of Eitro,

slapping it to the opposite field. It was a piece of art, I think. Greg, if this were the Patriots, who would you be? Brandon Bolden. Wow. I'm sure you're better than that. Very humble, pepper spray. Very humble.

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