NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Draft Talk & “What's More Likely?”

Episode Date: March 31, 2017

A room filled with heroes – Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Gregg Rosenthal & Colleen Wolfe – recap all the latest from around the NFL including bad news for Vikings defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd who is still trying to recover from a September knee injury, and Amazon Prime announcing which team will be featured on Season 2 of “All or Nothing.” Plus, “Move the Stick’s” Daniel Jeremiah stops by to hash out his beef with Dan, and give his take on some of the biggest names in the 2017 Draft. Finally, the heroes play an offseason edition of one of their favorite games – “What’s more Likely?”Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Colleen Wolfe, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosadol. What's up, boys, and woman? Hey, Dan. Hey, hey, hey, Connie, one of the great utility players, a real Martine Prado. Yeah. I mean, what do you need? I can help. On, what was it?

On Wednesday show, or Monday show, you were in Wes's chair immediately to my left. Friday show, you're in Cessler's chair, far right. And Thursday's NFL Network hit. And Dan's chair. The old Suser's chair. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Regular Brock Holtz around here. Kind of like Rex Burkhead, a four-down player, versatility, special teams ace. Keep going, everybody. Keep going. I mean, let's not bury the lead, though, here. One hero is flying a little higher than the rest of us today. That man is Dan Hansus. Read Dan Hansus's fine pages

The end around his specialty mirth The subject Pro Football Yeah there you goes Dave Damshack was nice enough Dave filling in Four Rich Eisen on the Rich Eisen show On the old audience network

And I said I went to the studio this morning And I did a nice 20 minutes 25 minutes with Dave And the Chris's Brockman-in-law And am I flying too close to the sun Now that I'm a big time television style? Maybe.

Yeah. Am I borrowed wings? Maybe. You have a suit coat on right now. First communion shoes. Smile, ear to ear. First communion shoes is West tweeted. And I loved it.

Like, you came prepared with that jacket. I mean, you've made fun of us sometimes for wearing coats, you know, trying to dress up too much up here. Like, oh, that's not really who we are. We're not podcast. But put this guy on TV and suddenly, you know, he's Dodd Johnson. You could be calling a game right now. What am I supposed to be, like, dressing like, booger from a row?

Revenge of the Nerds or something like that reference, Wes, 1984 film. Brockman and Law are pretty casual, you know, you could do whatever you want. You're saying I overdress. No, I don't, I'm not really safe. I feel like that you're looking good. For the guests that's walking in the studio right now. Oh, my goodness. There's an embrace everybody.

He just walked in, or a chokehold. Just while, and now sitting down. The freeze is thought. Oh, my goodness. Breaking news. Sitting now immediately to my left. Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks. Whoa.

Wow. Wow, so many bits right now. I don't know what to do. I'm not even done giving Dan grief about the Rich Eisen's show, and then here's Daniel Jeremiah. Well, here's the deal. I saw on social media that one of your distinguished colleagues was going to be on the Rich Eisen's show.

So Greg reached out to me about joining the podcast today, and normal terms, obviously not. I wouldn't do it. But then I saw Dan was doing the rich. Rich Eisen's show, I thought, you know what, I actually like everybody else in the group. When I really did some internal investigating there, I was like, I'm really, I'm cool with everybody except for one person. And then I come in here and he's sitting in here. I kind of like the idea that I may have ruined your Friday.

I think you can pretty much eliminate May. West, by the way, always befuddled by the heat between the Move the Sticks podcast and the NFL podcast. And once again, shaking his head doesn't quite process it. I haven't been this confused since the manufactured Bob Cost is. debate that's been going on for four years between the two of you and Mark Sessler. Oh, gosh. Well, here's the truth, though. So I told Dan this other day, on Twitter, this older gentleman, okay, he had tweeted

some, because we were going back and forth, me and Dan were doing something. This older gentleman had said, like, I don't understand what the problem. Like, he legitimately, he likes both of us individually. He tried to broker a piece. This guy was really troubled. And so I told, I told Zusser, I'm like, dude, I had to come out of character. I'm like, hey, we're okay, man. I don't need this guy, like, not sleeping at night

because he thinks there's real conflict here. It's affecting other people's lives. People are very concerned. I had to spare that. I was troubled by it. I was troubled by it. I mean, like the old callback, he broke K-Fave. Oh, yeah.

A wrestling thing. And he said to this, we're actually friends. And I was like, wait a second. Down down here. Maybe a little strong on the friends. Count down the friend thing, number one. Number two. These guys aren't hanging out after work.

Let's be on. I kind of like it better when everyone thinks. But that was the preacher's son in you coming out. You got to catch DJ. I mean, this guy was literally, if you want to hang out with him, catch him in Hanano. Thank you for that, by the way. Good hamburger spot. Oh, it's the best.

Do you eat there? I love Hanano. That place is great. It's my favorite burger. Now sponsored by Hanano. Yeah. I'm a little bit upset, though, because the guy, the guy that's behind the bar, I assume he owns it. He's there all the time.

I don't know if he owns or not, but he's there every time I've gone in there. Yeah. Still, like, there's no connection. Really? Yeah, you want the guy to, you know, to kind of remember you a little bit. It's not a neighborhood bar if there's no connection. And we get a lot of tweets from people that are fans of the show that say, oh, I'm going to be in California.

Where should we go? Honanos is right on the water there on the border of Venice and Marina Del Rey. How many guys do you think they'll go into that place and order a hamburger and an iced tea? And every time he goes, you know, all we have is snapple. I'm like, no, I've been here like 50 times. I'll take my snapple can in my really cold mug and I'll be good. And you get chip roulette too. Oh, that's the fun part.

Maybe you get Fritos. I love Chip Rillette. Yeah. It's so basic, but it gives you so much joy. awesome um so i mean we have dj this is dj season i mean this is one oh he's like give me the spotlight i'm the king of draft dog yeah uh so i guess usually we you know we do some news at the top of the show but since we have dj for how many how many minutes do we have you dj uh i have to be in a makeup chair uh i got like 20 minutes all right so why do we talk a little draft at the top here by the way

are you are you driving uber as well and what are you doing with this jacket here oh yes yes I have no retort to that. I am not a man. I don't have a walk-in closet. I'm a humble blue-collar guy. Come from a Coal Town. Face is super red. And I got one jacket.

I got to say, though, you are on TV more than Judge Judy these days, man. I can't flip on NFL that way. Coming from you, that's interesting. That's interesting, DJ. Because Daniel Jeremiah, you do the path to the draft. I think you do it. Sometimes Colleen's even in the mix. Yeah, I was on there a couple days.

We have a big time special, big, I don't know if does that out yet? Oh, should we break it? Break it. Go for it again. Yeah. We'll break. We're doing a little mock draft live. Wow.

Yeah. It's a big deal. DJ and I are both GMs of our own teams. Last year we co-hosted it. We apparently didn't do a good job because now we're now just. Switching around our roles. Rolls heaven. You're no longer the host, but you're on the show.

This is a program on NFL Network. It is. Yes. It's a big deal. Again, Greg, sometimes you over-explained things. Of course, it's a program on NFL. I don't know. We're doing this one on Fox.

We got NFL now and whatnot. Fox's contract of us for this. All right. So since you are sometimes a co-host of Path to Drive, why don't you throw DJ a question here, Colleen? Okay. You're so versatile. All right.

This is like the fifth head. Like me and Bucky, it's just two of us, right? Yeah. We get like your best headsets. Yeah. It's like headset number five right here. This thing is horrendous. That's the one that I refuse to put behind my back.

It's so bad. Yeah. It's an outrage. It's going to go, I'm trying to, like, find something. Don't get less going on this. I'm good. Okay. That's better.

Got him going. All right. All right. So, let's talk biggest draft riser. I know that you're a big fan of Christian McCaffrey. Yeah. Because he can fill so many different roles. But just all in all, when you look at these different guys after the pro days, who's the biggest riser right now?

Yeah, I think, look, when you just go through the whole post season, McCaffrey was still, I thought always was going to be a first round pick. Now, I think he's going to be a top 20 pick. Really? But Hassan Redick from Temple is probably. My boy. You know, your temple guy. he's probably he's done the most for himself in the postseason because really you're talking about switching positions he goes to the senior bowl he was an edge rusher now he's playing inside

linebacker and had a great week goes to the combine runs 447 i think he's what he ran there and had a great workout so usually going from edge rusher to inside linebacker doesn't help it's a teddy brusk well it also doesn't help your draft prospects because ed rushers are more valuable the thing that's cool about this dude though is that you can kind of use him in both roles so i think you'll see teams that on early downs you can play them inside and then when you get in sub-situations, and you get passing downs, you can let them just come off the edge. How many players in the NFL are like that?

Clay Matthews obviously plays both. You can do both. Like at Dante High Tower? Jamie Collins has done both. I mean, I think... More athletic than Dante High Tower? Yeah. Dante High Tower is 265 pounds.

I mean, this guy's 238. Redick's so versatile, too, because he was a walk on a temple as a DB, too. Like super undersized. Wow. He's got a great story. And, you know, so this is, it's interesting. We've talked about,

When I started in 03 scouting, you'd go in the draft room and you'd have all the positions across the board. And now it's almost just kind of like it's all melded together, you know, where we're just going to get the best players. You see a lot of teams play with three safeties. You'll see sets where you'll see, you know, five corners out there. I mean, you'll see everything. So just want guys that can do multiple things, their value has really skyrocketed. He's one of those guys.

You said McCaffrey moving up, where do you think he could go then in the first round? Well, I mean, I think you could look at, a place like Philadelphia, which would make some sense. You could look at a place like Indianapolis, where it could make some sense. I would love to see him in Indianapolis. Oh, man, Andrew Luck with him. That would be fun to watch. On Tampa at 19 as well.

In that dome on turf? I mean, that's the problem. With his cutting ability? All these teams like Tampa, for instance, that you think about, okay, maybe they would sign Adrian Peterson. At this point, they're going to wait. You would think to the draft or he should sign before the draft because if the right guy like McCaffrey falls to them, they end up taking him.

That closes a spot. He wouldn't be a great fit in Tampa. Tampa, though, right? Because Charles Sims can do some of those things, and they really need, if they're worried about Doug Martin, you want to between the tackles guy. Yeah, a bigger guy. In this draft, there's so many guys. I mean, you can get in the fourth round and there'll be plenty of. The Colts are one of those teams, though, that have telegraphed what, you know, and I respect that. Chris Ballard and Chuck Bogato basically said what they're going into the draft looking for. Here are the four positions we're looking for, and they've made it no secret. They're taking a running back. Whether it's early or not. Some point in time. You know, they're taking it. And you have the Saints as an option on the mock draft at NFL.com. Oh, man.

Saints fans lost their mind on that one. That was a fun one. Why? Because you're doing a hundred of these mock draft. Right. So you're sitting there. And at this point in time, with this last one, I just like a couple weeks old. So there's, you're not that much information now.

The teams haven't come back in from their meetings from the pro days. So you're just throwing crap against the wall. And so I'm sitting here going like, okay, as a fan, Drew Brees with Christian McCaffrey, like how much fun was happening? Sean Peyton loves scatbacks. Oh, look what Reggie. Bush did the, you know, the Super Bowl year. So Aaron Sproul's, let's throw him in there. And then the Saints fans lost their minds.

We have to go defense. How could you say we would go off? People take their mock drafts really serious. Oh, they're serious. Oh, my gosh. It's like for death. We're like a made up, a completely made up exercise, which has the word made up. This is DJ's career. I mean, it has the word mock in the name.

I mean, I'm just saying, it's like I get carried away here. Shouldn't you be circling around the block one more time right now? I've got a question. Greg, it took you a couple extra seconds to get that one, but that's good. This is unrelated to this year's draft class, but it's an important question, and especially germane to Dan. Sam Darnold. Yeah. Dan is convinced that if the Jets go one in 15 and get the number one overall pick, it's going to be worth it because this guy's the real deal.

Pretty good. I've also read Jeremy Bergman, one of our guys on a desk, says he's got a long delivery. Is this true? And how concerned we should be. I mean, USC has a history of guys talked about after their. sophomore or junior year going number one overall and then sliding he's different though i think if you look at who was talking about him like matt barclay when he was coming out matt liner yeah but there was matt liner maybe a little bit different but with barclay there was

nobody in the personnel community that was elevating him up there was just he's an all-american their top five team you know so the media had kind of made that push this kid sam darnold is he's more physical he's got a huge arm the delivery is long but i mean we've talked about this before it's almost like with Russell Wilson. You know, Russell Wilson has a long delivery, but it's explosive. You don't want to be left which who's loopy and slow. Like, that's the worst combination. He needs to tighten it up a little bit.

But when you can be long and quick is which what he is, you can get away with it. Something he'll work on. But, man, you talk to, I mean, I've talked to, you know, coaches, general managers, scouts, anybody that's seen this kid while they're doing other players. Like my phone was blown up during that time during the comment. They're like, oh, that's the dude right there. Is there a strong belief you're closer to this than us, that he has got like one more year in him?

That he'll come back. That he'll actually come out because there's a guarantee. He doesn't have to. I mean, look, the thing about him, just from what I know, he's a lifelong USC fan from Orange County. It's not like he's in a situation where from a financial perspective, obviously, that's not a concern. And then he has, you know, grew up as a fan of the team.

So I can guarantee you the pitch from the USC coaching staff is going to be, Andrew Luck was in your exact same situation. It came out his redshirt sophomore year and went back. Not what Dan wants to hear. Went back for one more. I got banged on this once in 97 when Peyton Manning, when the Jets are coming off one in 15, decided to do one more year at Tennessee. So who got hosed?

It happened again. Who got hosed, I think it was Buffalo, right, when Luck went back? Carolina wasn't. Well, Cam, you would either got Cam or Luck, right? They would have gone one, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think Buffalo, I believe, was picking second that year. Didn't took Darius.

You're right. A difference between Darius and Cam, New York. Yeah. Oh, wow. Dan, you know who else is a huge Sam Darnold fan? Talk to me. The Spice rack. Spice rack loves Sam Darnold.

Pepper Mill? One of my good friends lives in Vegas and is my college football conigliary. Okay. I get all of my college football opinions from him because I don't watch it. Adopt him. He is convinced that Darnold is the real deal. Also an occasional uneven guest of this podcast, much like yourself. I would not even go uneven.

Speaking of a podcast, you should start with you. Do you keep little cups of water in the back of the car? Do you have little things of water, maybe like some mints? A newspaper? What do you have been in the back seat? No, I'm serious, though. I hope you have phone chargers in there. I'm sure.

Like, you have, like, an easy, like, candor about you and wit. You should start a podcast on NFL. Oh, wow. That's good. Very well, that. Hey, by the way, so I went through for Farts and Giggles. It's getting uncomfortable, folks. For Farts and giggles, I went and looked up, like, the iTunes thing is always fascinating to me, right?

You see the rankings. They put the number of stars and they can leave the reviews, right? I've been called all types of things on those. But anyways, on your guys, which you have like 1,500 reviews, okay? Love our listener. Which is crazy. Which, by the way, everyone should leave a review. Thanks for bringing that up, DJ.

Please continue to help these guys off. Anyways, I'm reading it. I'm reading it. There is so much shade being thrown at me and Bucky in your reviews. It's like 20% of loving you guys and the other 80% is attacking us. I mean, Bucky's a nice guy. You can't know we can say anything bad about Bucky. I like Bucky.

Maybe it was just me, but I tried to put Bucky in there so I feel better. But I've instructed our listeners, both of them, to go on in our reviews and feel free to take shots at the round of the NFL. Oh, wow. It was a call to arms. I don't know if it'll work. That's fine. So this is. Not on your reviews, on our reviews.

This is you really finding out that, okay, it's all fun in games. We can make these little jokes, you know, starting a beef. And, you know, sometimes real life smacks back at you. It's not all fun in games. No, no, look, you have a powerful army out there. Powerful army. Hey, you got... I'm beginning to figure it out, though.

I think you guys are giving free rides to everybody in town. I like the bit. I didn't know that Uber drivers wore jackets, but there's still the bit works for me. In Marina del Rey, they do. You got Mitch Trubisky, by the way, at number 32, which to me is, like, code for DJ thinks he's no good. I agree. That is code. But that's a little bit of a top 50s.

Yeah, see. He's not your top quarterback, though, right? No, I have. Watson? I have Watson, then Trubisky, then Kaiser. But I'm not, like I said, I've been like with these quarterbacks. I'm not in love with any of them this year. But there are people that do love Trubisky.

Oh, yeah. Like I've been told. Second and kind of putting him down there is you putting him in a different category. He's going to go. He's going to go in the first round. Look, I've had a couple people tell me in the last two days that Cleveland at 12 was probably going to happen with him. I've had other people tell me that Cleveland's taking a pass catcher,

be it a tight end or a receiver at 12. So, I mean, you hear so much information this time of year. But he's been, I mean, he's going to go in the first round. The one, the other one, Mahomes is going to go in the first round from everybody, everything I'm hearing and talking to. And his delivery is all over the place, right? He is like. But he seems like he's an incredible athlete.

Oh, my gosh. This guy was like, he grew up playing three flies up. You remember playing that when we were kids? We didn't have three flies up in Cincinnati. You guys ever played three flies up? Is that Flyers up? We played Flyers up. Yeah, no.

Is it the same? What was it? So you have like a ball, tennis, ball, football, whatever. You have a bunch of your friends in, like, a big pack. You throw it up in the air, and the first one that catches three times gets to go be the thrower. I've never even heard of this game. You never. That was flyers up.

Oh, really? Oh, we got three flies out. We had the man with the ball, which is probably not much correct anymore. Yeah. That's a little different. A little different game. But that's kind of. It could have workshop that name a little bit.

Like kids. Kill the man with the ball. We weren't even men. We were boys and girls. Yeah, but, you know, back in the 70s and 80s, you didn't have to take things so seriously all the time. So you could just be like, oh, we're winking. Back in my day. But anyways, he just throws the, like, he'll just, without caution, just throw it up.

And he makes some, like, Matt Stafford-type throws. You're like, whoa. And then, but his best plays have nothing to do with the play call. So it's like. So that's not great for the NFL. That's tough transition. And, you know, the defense of him. Your NFL obsessive of coordinator will love that.

But here's the deal. Like, there's some teams, I won't go into the names, but there's some teams that are, have roster's good enough, right? And then quarterbacks that are just good enough you're going to be postseason quarterbacks, but the upside is not there for them to play at a high enough level to win a championship. So like the Kansas City Chiefs. I didn't say that. So the thinking

is that a team could take him, sit him behind said good, not great player for a couple years, work with him, get him up to speed, and then eventually you'd have a guy with a ceiling high enough to eventually get you where you want to go. While DJ was saying that, he actually wrote out the words Kansas City Chiefs on a piece

of paper. Held it up. I heard Josh Dobbs on your pod. Good dude. I mean, he sounds so mature for his age, which is crazy. Yeah, he just had his pro day. So I just got to, I just texted a buddy that was there from a team. I'll tell you what they said about his pro day. Humble brag.

By the way, Colleen, you're on Dan's radar now that you just admitted to listening to D. I mean. Can you imagine the contacts that did a nice job. Has, by the way, in the phone? I'd love to, yeah, that's a great point. Most famous contact. Hold on, hold on. You want to go, you want to go, I, do you ever say voicemails?

You know, sometimes, I guess. Okay, you want to hear an old voicemail? Yeah, please. Hold on. Let's see if I can get this into play here. Hey, Daniel, this Archie Manning down in doing us calling. Glad to hear you going to be joining us at the Passing Academy. I was just trying to do.

Didn't really want anything. I was just going to kind of figure in a little bit, kind of what we do. but we're excited to have you. I'm about to get on a playing. I'll be traveling. So this is my cell. Hold on. No, when Archie calls, you save.

That's like four years old. It's still on my phone. I can't delete it. I swear to it. Hold on. I'll look at the date. Running out of space. What do I delete?

I always update when you delete your message. I always save Art. I can't delete it. I save messages from my mom. Not Archie Manning. That is from 714, 2014, 2012. Oh, my God.

Coming up on five years. He's a man that respects the history of the league. You know what, DJ, maybe I'm coming around. Of the block? Or on me. All right. All right, go get in your makeup chair. Let's go get pretty.

Colleen, it was great to see you. Yeah, good to see you too. Thanks, DJ. Daniel Jeremiah, ladies and gentlemen. Move the sticks with the stop-by. It was okay. It was a six out of ten stop-by. That's what he's going to rate you.

I'm not thrilled that DJ came with this great bit that he could just hammer over and over. You know, the funny thing about Greg, because I have something to share this with now he's lashing out. People close to me. Sometimes it's like, there's like, you know, hey guys, home team, home team. Greg's one of those guys like he'll turn on you like a jackal. No one was laughing harder than Greg. He's like, oh. These guys.

No, but you know, it's a different laugh. Put it that way. Well, the thing is when you're, when you're in the. I don't watch you in the foxhole. Put it that way. When you're in the company of other people, you know, sometimes you tend to act differently than you would act like in your own sort of podcast, maybe differently than you speak privately. What is the meal power rankings, breakfast, lunch, dinner. There's a little clip there from Dan asking the important questions.

I thought we were going to another one. Let's actually, let's go to, let's go to, the congratulations here. Can I just say, by the way, congratulations to the Chris's and Rich. That's a big deal. Thanks, bud. Our podcast got a Stitcher Award in 2013, and our producer told the Stitcher people to mail the award to her home address, and we never saw it again. Is that true? That's a true story.

That's a great story. I also just like the congratulations for the Emmy Award for the Redsizing Show. His little show business trick, Greg. I brought that up so I could get into the Stitcher bit. Take notes. So much shade. There's so much shade on this pod. Give a showbusish tricks to NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal.

NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal. What? The door creaking opens my favorite. Look out. It's NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal. All right. This was at Hanano. Oh, yeah.

Dan does not like it when he's the subject of drops that he did not create. Well, you calm down. It's Friday. We're supposed to be having fun here. We're having fun. This guy's on my ass. You jackal? Jackal.

It's bit day. All right. So there we go. Move the six. And he does. I was made aware. Sidney in my ear told me that there is a podcast called the Move the Sticks podcast.

Yeah. But he does with Bucky Brooks. So check it out if you can find it. And at Move the Sticks on Twitter and Path to the Draft. With Bucke Brooks. No wonder he could make fun of the common man's clothing. I'm sure he's pulling a nice paycheck.

Oh, yeah. He must be doing well, Danny Boy. Got to be. Oh, let's be honest. Remember the old bucks and eagles were interested in hiring him. This was public information. to be part of their front office. And for him to turn down that gig,

you got to think, you know, NFL media stepped up. There's nothing better than leverage, Wes, in negotiations. And the man had it. It's all that matters. He's not taking Uber's anywhere. It doesn't matter how good you are. It's all that matters is leverage. This is, this is true.

What did you really want to say there, Greg? I'm going to pass. All right. Sydney, let's do some news. God, Sid, the new It trailer was, I don't know if you guys have clown issues. I have legitimate clown issues because of that. Duly noted. Yeah, the TV movie in 1990, It.

And now they're remaking it. And how did you, how did that get on your radar that you knew it was something that was going on? Oh, well, you tweeted it out. So that was just really. That's true. Specifically about your clown issues. Yeah, I said they should blast that trailer into outer space. I do not want that movie on the old radar of the world.

I can't wait to just start putting clowns and Dan's front yard. I'll know where it came from. All right. Let's do some news, and we will start with the announcement of a new all-or-nothing team. Now you've got to, you know, there's two categories. Now there's a hard-knocks team and an all-or-nothing team. This is great. I'm so excited.

Who's the team? You're excited? You're real pumped up? Yeah. Well, the team is the same team that we just saw on Hard Knocks. It's the Los Angeles Rams. Oh, come on. That's cool.

Like Sean McVeigh, and it's going to be really, you know, kind of like a new generation. No? Last year's. Oh. Los Angeles Rams. Wait, we got to go, we got to live that again. They filmed it all during last season. Oh, my God.

And I wrote about it for NFL.com last year, but I forgot that that's how they do it. This is why it's an outrage. You cannot have. have an all or nothing if there's no chance at the all if the highest you can do is seven and nine there is no all or nothing so i guess the jeff fisher firing will be in it which that might be interesting yeah but you know they're not i don't know if they're going to be able to really dig into that maybe they will maybe they'll surprise us but even then it's pretty depressing that that whole season was a very if you wanted to rank like top five most depressing seasons in the nfl last year

the Rams had to be up there, right? Oh, I think they're number two. They're number two to the Browns. I guess the Jaguars are maybe in there. But yeah, I mean. A start to the season they had. Yeah. Yeah, but the difference is like even.

Can't wait to not watch that. Even the other teams were more interesting in their failures than I think the Rams were after a while. I mean, seriously, though. That was not a team you wanted to dial like. It was bad. I was kind of, I still, the Browns had more going on. The Jaguars had more going on.

on, actually, than the ramp. But you never know. Maybe it could be great. It's NFL films who always managed to be great with everything they do. So maybe they'll find a way to, like, show case what pain is like. It's so weird, though, because isn't NFL films involved in Hard Knocks, too? Yes. Like, so for them to do basically the same thing twice.

They just stayed. They just stayed. Which is, you know, this will be a challenge because that's the other risk and the big difference between all or nothing and hard knock. is that hard knocks, you're always going to document those five weeks at the end of July and into August. And it's always, all the teams are optimistic and there's a different vibe. With all or nothing, if you're going to say, we're going to guess where to go. And it worked out last year with the Cardinals who almost got to the Super Bowl. But this is almost like the worst case scenario where you dock yourself with a team that's just, there's not a lot of juice.

Yeah, because you would think if nothing else. I do love it all films, though. That's what I'm saying. You don't want to count it out. Yeah. You would think if nothing else, it would be popular with. with Rams fans, and I'm sure on some level it will be. But if you're a Rams fan, I feel like the last thing you want to watch right now is more Jeff Fisher.

It's like, let's relive the Jeff Fisher era. I think there's an opportunity, and this isn't really NFL films' style because it's, you know, generally pretty positive. There is an opportunity to maybe show what it's like to be on a miserable team. I don't know. Spin it, Greg. I'm just saying, like, I like sad movies. I like documentaries about things that aren't necessarily the happiest, you know, in the world. I just watched, you know, a documentary about competitive tickling that went in a very dark, down a dark path.

Yeah, you got to check it out. You got to check it out. It's on HBO. Check it out. Streets are talking. Streets talking. It's about the tickle dock. That's right up there with the clown movie.

No, it wasn't that type of thing. But it was fascinating. Yeah, so all or nothing, Los Angeles Rams. would have it could be NFL NFL films as greatest challenge and on some level their greatest victory if they produce entertaining television West. They should rename it NFL film's

greatest challenge because the entire conceit of the show either you get a Super Bowl or you get nothing doesn't fit the 2016 Rams fair fair let's move on talk about the Minnesota Vikings bad news for Sharif Floyd the 2013 first

round pick has yet to recover from nerve damage that occurred during September surgery to repair the meniscus in his knee, according to NFL Network Insider Ian Rappaport. The nerve that controls the quadriceps still isn't firing six months later. There is optimism that the nerve will start firing once more, but no one knows for sure, and that the first report came from USA today. And I guess this is, Colleen, maybe just like the reminder that, you know, not, you know,

99 times out of 100, you hear successful surgery on the torn ACL, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the one, or the 999 out of 1,000. This is the one where these guys are going under the knife. It's a real procedure and sometimes bad things happen. Yeah, it's like when you are getting surgery, you have to sign all of those disclosures. And it's like, oh, there's a chance of like X, Y, and Z and it's 30 pages long. And this is the time that it happened. I guess the nerve damage happened during the surgery.

and his Shreve Floyd posted on Instagram asking God for one last run and it was super depressing. That is sad. I really, I hope that that nerve does start firing again. It was really poignant that Instagram message. Don't let me go out this way. This game means so much to me

and the foundation is still being laid one stone at a time. Grant me one last run. I promise I'll lay my soul on the line. That's rough. I know. And that's kind of, you know, he's part of what, helps define that team, I think, in the front seven. You know, if they were going to come back to where we thought they were going to be last year,

I think it's going to be because of the players up front. And they would love to have Sheree Floyd. Moving on. Actually, we got a little bit of breaking news. Got some breaking news? What? Let's hear it. A lot of it.

That's a third break. We've got to slow it out with that drop. Shree Floyd, not the only 2013 first round draft pick in the news here. The Miami Dolphins waived. Dionne Jordan on Friday. The third overall pick, feel like he's been forgotten a little bit, considering he was a number three overall pick.

Of course, he's had suspensions and injuries and all sorts of problems. He's gone. I believe the Dolphins traded up to get him as well. And he, to me, is on that short list if you're coming up with a top 10 draft bus of the last 10 years. He's on the list for me because from the jump,

you know, when he wasn't at the right way, He got the PED suspension, never did anything on the field. They hung with him. And, West, they never got anything out of it. He's like the Jamarcus Russell of hybrid pass rushers. An epic draft bus. So Jeff Ireland gave up a first and second round to trade up for Jordan. And that was a surprise.

He was one of those guys who the draft nicks loved. It was not a great draft, and especially defensively, and it got pushed up. but he was a guy, I believe, Mike Mayock and others talked about as maybe the number one overall pick in that draft that they thought he was that sort of versatile talent. One start, 46 tackles, three sacks. Yikes. Vernon Goulston also might be in that conversation.

That's true. But, you know. He had a stat. He inspired an ignominious stat on this podcast. He don't want a Gulsin. Zero sacks, zero quarterback hits is a Goulston. Anyway, Chicago Bears. Bears. You know, not a lot of people are, even they got Mike Lennon, they got some pieces, I guess, but not a lot of people are expecting a ton from the Bears in 2017. But guess what? John Fox thinks otherwise at the annual league meeting in Phoenix this week. He had this to say, going back to a lot of the changes, we've had a lot of change. I think we're better for it. Unfortunately, you can't walk around with your chest out about that because of our record the last two years. But I have total confidence. And Ryan Pace has done an outstanding.

job and will continue to, I understand you have to win, and I finally feel like we're in striking distance. Wow. Are the Bears in striking distance? Three straight years, they've been last in the division. And I also, like the Chicago Tribune pointed out, they're nine and 23, the last two seasons, and only the Browns, Niners, and Jags have been worse during that span. But, yeah, they're in striking distance.

What does striking distance even mean? Does that mean like eight wins? Yeah, I think that's about it. I get that because, well, look, he's just hopeful. The roster is not good. Were they that much different last year? I'm just looking at football outsiders' team efficiency. They were 25th.

The team above them was Indianapolis. It was 8 and 8. A couple teams below them, Detroit and Houston, had winning records. Are they that far away? They were a team that competed. I think they were a little better, certainly, than 3 and 13. Are they that far away from getting lucky in winning seven or eight games and people talking about, oh, the Bears are a nice story,

not really a relevant team? Like, that wouldn't shock me. Like, that happens in the NFL. John Fox has proven he can do that sort of thing. But that's their best case scenario. How? You disagree. I mean, how does John Fox come to this conclusion?

I just don't get it. How could you possibly believe this? It's what bad teams do. Look, we got a chance to be good this year finally. No, you got a chance to get the number one overall pick. your butt to get fired. I mean, he's probably just hoping and wishing. He's staring at the roster and thinking of things that he can do,

and he knows he's done. He's staring at his deal. He's entering a third year of a four-year deal. He needs it to be true. I'm going to go down the same thing with Todd Bowles, West, when you got upset about the rebuilding thing. What is this guy supposed to say? I don't know.

He believes his team can make some. Don't get me started on Todd Bulls. How about not lying? That's what you're supposed to do. Not lie. Not lie to your fan base, which you are going to put through misery. Treat them like adults. You're going to put them.

them through misery, don't lie. Bill Belichick lies all the time, too. Bill Belichick treats his fans great. He gives them winning seasons. He doesn't lie to them. We're talking about different things now, not about the success of the team, but how they communicate with the media. You've got to watch what you say. That's what I'm saying. This guy's not going to say, well, I think we still kind of stink because Michaelin is not that good, and I'm probably going to get fired. Of course, he's going to say, you know what, I think we're in striking distance. Bill Belichick says things like, hey, we don't want to be the Colts of the year that they got the number one overall pick and suffer.

through that. We're going to keep our backup quarterback. I see. As a fan, you're like, yeah. I see both sides. I do think there is a point to the, like, what are they going to say? On the other hand, there are some coaches who I think, in their minds, what they say to the

public has even, like, there's very little important, they put very little importance on any sort of truthfulness. Like, in their head, while they're saying it, I think they know it's BS. And I think there's, not every coach is like, And I think John Fox is kind of one of those coaches.

Jeff Fisher is another one, yes. Moving on, T.J. McDonald recently signed to the LA, or excuse me, the San Diego Greybeards is now a member of the Miami Dolphins. Days after he learned of an eight-game suspension for violating the substances of abuse policy, the Miami Dolphins signed the former Rams Safety. It's a one-year deal with the team Mike Garifolo reported it. Russ, the Miami Herald had it first. What do we think about this signing? Greg, he's out for half a season, but can he help

the Dolphins if he gets back in his, the T.J. McDonald of old? Mike Tannenbaum type of move, and I like it. I mean, it's a low, low risk, high reward. You're getting an NFL starter. This guy has, I don't, he's barely missed a snap in his career. He's got a little bit of edge to him. You know, they've already got Rashad Jones there. kind of an under-the-radar story this off-season is Issa Abdul-Kadouz.

Abdul-Kadouz is probably retiring because of an injury. You know, you talked about how quick careers can change. His career was basically ended on a hit, and he was playing well last year for them as a safety. And so I think McDonald fills that role nicely. Number two in the Issa Power rankings behind Issa Ray. Oh, I love Issa Ray. I did too.

I've got a crush on her. Yeah, everybody watch Insecure. if you haven't seen it yet. This podcast took an unexpected turn. I love it. She's like one of my favorites. She's got my favorite smile. Great smile.

Not only as Wes going current pop culture, but he's going like hip current pop culture. I love it. It's a new West. Also going head over heels for this woman. Oh, I'm a favorite smile. I am totally with you. She's talented, too.

Huge crush. What does the paramour think about this? The paramour shares the same opinion as I do. Well, hello. I think the Paramore likes her even more than I do. That show is like a cool version of girls. Like if girls was good, that would be insecure. It is insecure.

It's awesome. Let's have a nice smile. It's a nice smile. I like it. It's a nice smile. I'm happy. It doesn't even do it justice. I'll check this out.

I'll check the show. It's a good show. You'll like the song that she, her rap in the beginning. Oh, really? It's like episode one or two. Okay. What is it? Where is it?

Where can I see? HBO. Yeah. Ah, HBO. The home box off. I'm surprised you're not. I'm going to plug in on this. Usually I'm unplugged in on the HBO stuff.

That and Atlanta are like the two best shows. Yeah, Dan, stay with me and I'll bring you up to date. Oh! You know, one guy, I go on TV once and everyone's like, what is this? What is the source of this? I'm trying to figure it out. Don't forget us, Dan. Moving on.

Drew Breeze. Oh, actually, let's sound the alarm. Trojanet. Trooperat. Trooperat. Trojanet. Trooperat. New Orleans Saints.

quarterback, Drew Breeze is 38 years old, but guess what? He believes he can play many more years as a professional quarterback. How many more years? Ah, hell, I'm Drew Breeze. I believe I can play until I'm 45. Ooh, he's on that Tom Brady plan. Everybody's on the Tom Brady plan now. This is a certified trope alert.

We'll see. He still plays, he's still like a top five quarterback. He's 38. doesn't have maybe the build, do you think, that would survive into your 40s? He's not a big man. But who knows? I think science.

I think every offseason people should ask him how long he wants to play. Because this was my favorite trope three years ago when he started saying he wouldn't play to his 45. Yes, shocking, the Drew Breeze and Trope Alert. It should be, I still want to play until I'm 45. I mean, the crazy thing, I thought he was the Kleining a few years ago. He's played great the last few years. I wouldn't say he's underrated because he's rated pretty high,

but this man has led the league in passing yards five of the last six years. And the one year he didn't, he had 5,100 passing yards. I mean, that's pretty incredible. It is. Just saying it's. And finally in the news, Martellus Bennett, have you heard he's different than other players? Have you heard that? He's a little wacky.

I'm a little different. I'm a better brother. I'm different. Yeah, I'm different. Very good. Colleen's flying right now. I am. I'm just like you.

Flying too close to the sun on borrowed wings. All right. So Martell is Bennett. Once again, expressing that he's different. Well, this isn't that different. Professional athlete putting out a rap album. He released an EP called I Am Different. Excuse me.

I am not a rapper, but some of my friends are ellipsies. It's a five-track release. Here is one of the tracks And let's listen to it with open ears Okay Dinosaurs and Dinomite Dinosauri It's a new world

Hope you're ready for a revolution Dinosaurus and dynamite It's a new world Hope you're ready for a revolution You better run You better run Fast as you can I wish everybody could

It's a new world Hope you ready for a revolution Dinosaurus and dynamite I know, it's so great I made a hundred grand Spent that all made it back again I'm a monster I'm not a man Scales on scales on inside my hand

Now hundred seven thousand Is that Mardi B? So he's trying to I think No, I think there's a guest on this track Yeah, Matchbox Tony, or is that on... Is that a... That might be on the Whole Foods.

Matchbox Tony? What a great name. Well, there's a track called Whole Foods, and it talks about him bawling out at Whole Foods and eating healthy, and he's stacking bread that's whole grain. That's my favorite track. What is he like the weird owl of pro-athlete hip-hop? I can get behind that. Matchbox Tony.

Matchbox Tony's pretty great because he's basically riffing off like a soft rock alternative band of the late 90s and 2000s, right? He's, that's a riff off. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a. Second Matchbox 20 reference of the week in the, uh, on the NFL universe. Dinosaurs and Dynamite featuring match, matchbox Tony and David Allen dope. Oh, that's a good.

David Allen. David Allen dope. Yeah. That's a play on David Allen Coat. I feel like, you know, Kendrick Lamar releasing a new video right after this, maybe stole the sunshine away from Marty B. Maybe a little. He can get it back.

It's, you know, that's like kind of like a hip-hop move now. You don't necessarily have to be able to rap, but if you have like a vocoder, I think that's the Kanye West influence. There's a lot you could hear it in that song. Yeah. You know, it wasn't, Wes, you really seem to not enjoy it. Can we just play it? Wes, go ahead.

I'm sure, like, lyrical credit to Leonard Cohen or Bob Dylan, you know. You'll be a break with the lyrics. Dynamite. Like, what are you even trying to say here? Well, he's saying it's a new world. Hope you're ready for it. The dynamite's coming for the dinosaur. You're the dinosaur in this situation.

They're going to drop the dynamite on you, Wes, blast you out of here. Please tell me about this revolution, you corporate football player. Wow. Wow. Now, Wes hitting out. I enjoy this. I mean, give me a break. Everybody's got a revolution and how many revolutions actually take place.

Revolutions are a dime a dozen, Marty Sor. Oh. West going with the anti- Burner. Yo, Wes, you can drop a disc track. Revolution got banged in a big spot by Wes. We need a Chris Wesleying disc track.

Yeah, it's got to happen. In fact, we could just take whatever he just said and just lay it over a beat and we're flying. And then put the trope alert behind it. Someone has to do this. All right, that's what's happening in the news. It's all right. It was fine.

What? The song? Yeah, it's fine. I thought it was. Or the album? The tape? I mean, it's not offensive. It was fine.

All right. Why don't we play a game before we go? We haven't done this in a while. I think we did it on a network hit somewhat recently, but we haven't done it in the studio, and it's one of our favorite games. It's the game where we get to present two possibilities, and the rest of the room decides,

you know what it is. What's more likely? Thanks, Sid. Sid, where are you going this weekend? Currently, no plans. I was going to go to Utah this weekend, but that got bloated a bit. So, yeah. It's all good.

So wide open. You hanging out with Kirk? Hopefully not. I hate for this to, like, get on his wife's radar. And she's like, what is happening on this NFL podcast? Hey, Sid, you better not get on that plane. You know where you should be every weekend. Always an option.

Oh, he's an option. What's more likely? Here we go. Connie Fox. Ah. The Randy Valarde of the Around the NFL podcast. Wow. So versatile.

You can put her at short, third, left field, pitch in a spot. I'm kind of sad that Sessler is in here for what's more likely. He always has some good ones. I'll be sure to include him in one of them. Tough shoes. Oh, okay. You hear Wes? He's got you.

Okay. That's your back. All right. Connie, get us going there. This one might be strong. stretch, but just hear it out first. Brandon Cooks becomes Tom Brady's top target. Okay, so define top target.

Just most targets? Most targets. Okay. Most targets. Or Deshawn Jackson returns to his Pro Bowl form in Tampa Bay. So Cooks obviously is competing with six other pass catchers, including Gronk, Gronk's health. You know, it's always an issue.

Um, but last year, Cooks accounted for 17.6% of the Saints targets. Second on the team and he was not happy with. that. I would say definitely the latter choice here that Deshaun Jackson played at a near Pro Bowl level last year, at least for stretches at the end of the season. Brannick Cooks, I mean, Julian Edelman is a target monster. I don't see Brandon Cook's superseding Julian Edelman. What happens if Grasenck stays healthy and Julian Edelman stays healthy? I think there's no chance. I think he might be third. No chance at all. I think it's much more likely I think Deshaun Jackson still plays at a pro bowl level.

So he has to just basically continue what he was doing and he'll have a 1,000-yard season. Not quite a pro bowler last year. I mean, good player. But he's like in the park ballpark. Yeah, I would say Deshaun Jackson, too. Gronk, I could see Brandon Cook's getting more targets than Gronk just because of the position that he plays

and who knows if Gronk is fully healthy in terms of targets. Edelman had 159 targets. I mean, they have a connection. Like Edelman has basically patterned his entire life after trying to be Tom Brady's best friend. And it's worked out great for him. I mean, he's like taken below market deals just so he can stay with his buddy Tom Brady. Yeah, there's some creepy stuff going on. Do you think he's worried about Brandon Cook's coming in and maybe like feeling his best friend?

I don't know about the best friend part, but I think he's probably worried about him taking those targets, It's especially into 2018 when he's a free agent. Julian Edelman's probably a little worried. Somebody threw... They got rid of Wes, Wes Welker. Yeah. Somebody threw some shade at Julian Edelman a couple of months ago and basically called him out as being kind of like a Tom Brady light option.

Like he does everything that Tom does off the field. He has a supermodel girlfriend. I think he does some things differently than Tom off the field with different human beings. Go on. What is... I think he is... Tom Brady's a one woman. man oh i think julian edelman's a many woman man i thought you were a one woman man until i

heard you talking about that television star goodness ray the paramour and i are in lockstep on this one okay you're up west what's more likely what's more likely jay cutler finds a starting job or colin capernick finds a job by beginning of the season roughly, or just generally? Generally. I think Cap finds a job. It would be tough for me to see Jay Cutler starting. Yeah, I don't know where that starting job is.

I would go Kaepernick. I keep repeating myself that I do think he's going to be in the NFL. And I think these reports, whether there's probably room for, you know, disagreement in terms of how much money he's looking for. I don't think these reports and Ian Raffport was the latest to say that some GMs believed he was. seeking 10 million dollars i don't think those are coming out of nowhere i think once his price comes down and i think it will because he he's going to want to play i think he'll get a backup job and i would keep an eye on on carolina i know they said they they hadn't shown interest yet but i think that could make a lot of sense with cam newton coming off of an injury he's got to ditch that

vegan diet though i think oh that's preposterous there's more reports out there that teams are being spooked by that you know you're sitting in the mark sessler chair you're You know, if you're going anti-vegan, that's a declaration of war right now. Well, I'm just saying, like, it looks like he could use a sandwich. Doesn't Tom Brady, isn't Tom Brady mostly vegan? Yeah, I mean, that's ridiculous. Anyway, I don't think. Mostly vegan, really?

Yeah. On one hand, I'd like to think, like, that's preposterous. It's just one of those things that somehow got in the media. But then you can totally see some 55, 60-year-old GM being like, I don't know about this vegan thing. Yeah. They're all from the same area. They're from the Bronx. It's Dave Gettelman, basically.

There are a few, I don't, I think Gettelman is more open-minded than that. But I do think there are like three or four of these old crusty types. And the reporters go to these same three or four guys every time because they know they're pissed off about everything. Yeah. He is certainly a wiry-looking guy, Colin Cameron, especially last off-season when he's coming off the surgeries. And maybe they want them to be bulked up.

I don't know. It's, you know, who knows? Next up, me. What's more likely? Seamless. Tom Brady, speaking of which, vegan's no fish or anything, right? Right.

I think he eats fish. No dairy products. Yeah, so like pescatarian. Yeah, I think he's not quite vegan, but who cares? Tom Brady plays at a star level for another six or seven years, like he would like to do. Or Jimmy Garapolo is a 10-year. NFL starter with at least five Pro Bowl selections.

Before you, everyone gets on the high horse. Oh, what does the Pro Bowl mean? Just understand when I say that, that means if he's in the mix for a Pro Bowl, like for half of those years, that means he's become a really, probably a good, maybe better than good starter for 10 years. He's like Tom Brady has robbed him of like half of his 20s already. He's 25, so keep that in mind as well. So what was the first part that Tom Brady plays?

He's still Tom Brady. for another six or seven years. But he's playing at a high level, too. Yeah. Or Garoppolo. And if you think about it, this gets at a bigger question facing the Patriots right now. Yeah, I'm going to go all in on Tom Brady. He has all of the money, I feel like, in the world to invest in all of these different.

We are really against father time then. No, I, yeah. One year and all of a sudden there's no way Brady can be defeated by father. Well, you put up two, two things that I would say are unlike. So you have to pick the more likely. That's the game. Neither one of these I would consider particularly likely. But I'm going to go Jimmy G.

I believe that Jimmy G can have a good career as a starter. I don't know when that's going to begin or where it's going to begin. Five Pro Bowls is a lot. Five Pro Bowls means you might be sniffing the Hall of Fame if you're able to do something like that. But I'll go Jimmy G. I'm going Tom Brady for a very specific reason. I think Brett Farve could have. have played at 44 and 45. I think Peyton Manning, if it took another two year or two off after

retirement, there's a chance as arm strength could have come back. I think quarterbacks retire when they are no longer motivated to play football. And I think Tom Brady is absolutely driven by being a lifestyle pioneer and mowing down age barriers more than any player in any sport has ever been motivated by that. I think that is his number one driving motivation right now. And I think nothing's going to set him back. He's going to keep wanting to prove that over and over again. And as long as Belichick stays there, too, the two of them together, I feel like the future is bright, Dan. Well, I'll just give Tom another option.

You could beat father time and perfect science and do all these things, or you can watch your kids grow up. Wow. Coming after his credentials as a father. Hey, there's sacrifices being made. Don't think there's no sacrifice. He wants to go down this road. And that's why I don't think it's likely because you said, okay, he's got this motivation. Maybe.

I mean, I'm not in his head in terms of how he wants to change perception. I mean, you don't need to be in his head. He's already said these things. Right, but things, life changes, like another Super Bowl or an injury or anything. Then it could be, it could change. That's what off season is. Right. He's got all off season to connect with his children.

Yeah. Does he really, though? Yeah. You know how this guy operates? That's what I tell. He's taking an off season? There's no off season for this guy. I mean, he works all day, eight to five on his body, then goes on with his body.

that's what I tell my family every that's what you want. That's what you wanted to do, but I don't think that's what's happening. I think this guy is down in his lab with all his technicians and all his juices and his treadmills and his Ivan Drago workout routine. You are not fooling anyone.

You adore Tom Brady. You respect the hell out of him and you say all this just because you think you're obligated to as a Jets fan. It's like a fatal attraction thing going on. Is this show almost over? Greg, you're up. Dan does not like being on this side of thing.

Wait, Airyman doesn't like to be picked on. No, I don't. Good thing I'm a great sport. All right, go ahead, Greg. Wow. Good thing I have a great sport said by no great sport ever. Let's do a little draft talk. What's more likely?

What's more likely? Listen, just because I was on TV today, Greg, and your stars dimming in that department doesn't mean that you have to get after me. Because you've been leading the charge today. I'm loving it. It's fun. It's a little too coincidental is all I'm saying, that I go straight from this fancy TV studio to do the podcast,

and, you know, you're firing away on me. See, now you're trying to take it to, like, real, you know. It's a good, it's the job. It's a big deal. We would do the same for Colleen and West. Okay, true. This morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Go ahead. NFL.com's Greg Rosen. Hey, it's an absolute nobody. NFL.com's Greg Rosenpoll. Wow. Zickbaum. I like the end of that. bomb is dropped.

What's more likely? Saints draft a quarterback in the first round or Giants draft a quarterback in the first round? Giants. Saints talk about this every year. They don't fool me one bit. They talk about this every year, but they traded Brandon Cooks to help their defense,

and they talked about that. They know they need help on defense. Could end up with another. Drew Breeze is still good, and Eli Manning's not, so there's your answer. I think it would be a surprise to me if they didn't do one before the third round. First round, that's pretty hardcore.

That's quite a message being sent to old Eli. And it's not a great quarterback draft class, as DJ just said. The Giants are a smart organization. Mahomes. They fit what DJ said about Mahomes. Yeah, Mahomes is one that's been connected to him a little bit. I'm going to. All right.

So what was the other one? The Saints or Giants. And I'm not pulling this out of thin air. There have been kind of reports that both will consider a quarterback, maybe even in the first. I think the Giants are more likely than the Saints. Yeah. Saints could end up with another first round draft pick. I do believe in Chase Daniel, who's now in New Orleans.

Chase Montana. But I'm going to go with the Giants. Colleen. Oh, I'm up again. All right. I got another one. All right. Here we go.

What's more likely? Sean McVeigh makes the Rams better than some seven to nine bullshit. Oh. Sean McDermott makes the bills better than some seven to nine bullshit. Mm. Now the bills, they actually were seven to nine last year. Rams, four and 12. Well, here's the thing about the bills.

I don't know what's going to happen with the bills, but that week's 16 game, they weren't a great game against the dolphins, was it, with the season on the line, essentially? Yes. And they played well and they got beat right at the end of the game. The bills weren't last year that far off from being the dolphins on some level. Their defense was so weird last year.

It was not a great defense, but I think they're closer right now than the Rams is what I'm saying. So I think more likely the bills. I have no confidence in the bills whatsoever. I just think they're on a team going nowhere and their defense keeps losing talent every year and I don't know if it's being restocked or not all their draft picks get injured so you never know

I'd like to see what Sean McVeigh can do with Todd Gurley and a revamped offensive line and we already know the defense has parts and they got Wade Phillips I think I trust the coaching more and with the Rams. That's a tough way. So the question is better than 7 and 9 or? Which one could get out of that?

I mean, we know that Sean McVeigh, he can't talk to. He can't work with Jared Golf yet. But Jared Gals has been working with Tom Hals, who worked with Matt Ryan last year. And they have a lot of good people in there. Matt LaFleur is that their new offensive coordinator. And, I mean, I like the signing of Andrew Whitworth. They just need some receivers, though. I'm going to go bills.

I think they're more talented team. I don't, I don't really, I'm not too high on either of these teams, but I guess that was the point of the question. Wes. What's more likely? Derell Revis finds his long lost love for football. Oh, that would be so sweet. He's been searching.

Or Mark Sessler finds his long lost love for football. He's been searching. No. Well, I've been on the, you know, So my stance in Dorel Revis has been repeated often that I think this guy's done. And I would never count Mark Sessler out. I mean, he's one Browns win away from loving football. Mark Sessler.

A single Browns win. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Greg might actually be right there. I, yeah, well, I've made my stance clear on this too. I think Revis is going to get motivated. He's already lost the weight. He'll sign with the Patriots or someone else.

and have a great close to his career that further, like, sticks in the Jets' ribs. So that's exactly what will play out. I've seen more likely to me. That sparkle and Mark's eye more than I've seen in Dorel Rivas's eyes. So I'm going to go with Mark. Have you been looking in Dorel Rivas's eyes a lot later? Yes. Searching for football and his love for it.

When Mark finds a love for something, he's all in it. So I think he'll, I think he'll get it back. Is Daddy ever coming back? Finally, Greg, one more. That was a good one to close on. Let's do, I'm just saying that was a good one. He doesn't want to do it. All right, Tony Romo replaces Phil Sims in the CBS booth,

inspiring mid-season columns that is Tony Romo not very good on TV? Or Rex Ryan inspires columns. saying is Rex Ryan not really that good on TV? I'll go with Rex because we already know he's got the job. There's still a very good chance Tony Romo plays football. I think Tony Romo would be good. I do too. Especially Phil Sims, you know, I don't want to take shots of the guy,

but not a beloved broadcaster. He's like the opposite of that phrase, like you never want to be the guy that replaces the guy. Like you do want to be the guy who replaces Phil Sims. Yeah, you want to be the guy who places the guy who replaces. the guy and that that would be tony uh and then rex i have a feeling that rex potentially could be a bust in really just because his whole thing that made him interesting was that he he had that bluster and that bravado and he was a head coach and he brought a different perspective or a different

voice than you're used to hearing from these guys you put him in a studio and he's just another like talking head if he starts like you know running his mouth like that i don't think it has the same appeal i don't know i don't know really i would rather I could see him be a little polished. I could see him being a little too polished. No, I would rather listen to Rex say outlandish things than Tony Romo, like, just be, try to figure out where the line is for, like, a former player in terms of, like, criticizing. Yeah, that takes a lot of time.

And that's not going to be an issue at all for Rex Ryan. I mean, I could see him being outlandish and outspoken and being the same exact Rex that we've always seen just as an analyst in studio. That's fair. The point on Romo is well taken because I already drew this comparison. But everybody, people forget about this now. Everybody was convinced Boomer Isis and was going to be the most natural, the most gifted, the best analyst or color analyst on TV. And he lasted, what, a year on Monday Night Football?

Yeah, well, he was out of the business. Yeah, he was out of the TV business in a heartbeat. He's had a career, but a good career, but it took him a while to learn. I mean, I think he's good on radio, but I, games are hard, too. Games compared to like a studio show, that's hard. There you have it. That was good. Good conversation.

It was a big day here. You know, I hope there's no hard feelings. I mean, extremely hard feelings between you and me personally that we're going to hash out immediately after the mic's cut out. I just feel bad because you're all dressed up and it's a big day for you. Read Dan Hansus's fine pages, the end around, his specialty, mirth. The subject, pro football. That was a great introduction.

It's a great introduction. Yeah, you know. The lesson learned, don't wear a suit jacket. It's like putting a target on your back. I didn't even bring up your dazzled trailblazer shirt. John went to Portland and brought me back this shirt that is encrusted with gems as a net. We're going to have to take a picture of it. Okay.

Send it to the people. Fine. Right now, in fact. You ready? Great. Two. Connie Fox face. All right.

That's it. We'll be back on Monday. Colleen, thank you for helping us out this week. No problem. You guys have kept me busy this week and thank God for it because I'm bored. Yeah, we'll keep you, we'll continue to keep you in the mix as we head through the offseason. The four of us, including Mark, we believe we'll be back on Monday and that's fun. We're having fun.

Sid, whatever you end up doing this weekend, you have fun too. Enjoy that weekend. Oh, thanks. Cool. We'll do. Cool. You know where you should be, though. Right next to me.

It still doesn't like it. It's so weird. It is so creepy. Hey, listen, I have nothing to do with it. And it comes very natural to you. It's all inside me. All right, let's go. Let's go home.

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