NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Eagles-Packers Week 10 MNF Recap | Defenses Bail Out Playcallers on Both Sides

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

There were zero points on the board heading into halftime, but the Eagles-Packers Monday Night Football matchup delivered in the second half with timely offense, questionable play calling and one crazy final kick. Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook handle the recap of what was a telling game for the potential trajectory of these NFC foes as the season reaches its latter half.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's not even close. It barely reaches the end zone and the game is over. and the Philadelphia Eagles have escaped with a 10 to 7 win. Oh, what a fitting end to a bizarre night. The second time in week 10 that Nick Shook and I will discuss a 10 to 7 primetime finale. This one meant a little more than Broncos Raiders. Yes, Merrill Reese and Mike Quick on WIP.

Sounded like, you know, they were disappointed by how bad that kick was. But the Eagles win. Those were the Eagles announcers talking about a missed Brandon McManus kick to end this game from 64 yards out. The Eagles are seven and two. And Nick, if we thought they won ugly early in the season, this was next level. But this game was a journey and that somehow felt like the perfect ending to this journey. You know, when we got the halftime and it was zero zero, it struck me. We shouldn't be surprised by this at all.

These are the two teams that have the toughest time with figuring out a rhythm, finding one. The Packers notoriously starting slow. The Eagles can't play a full game, haven't really done it offensively all year. Of course, this is how it was going to go. And of course, it was going to end up 10 to 7. And I think that I could explain Merrill Reese's, I don't know, dissatisfaction or lack of excitement there. Okay.

The fact that why did we even have to go through this, these last few snaps? because Nick Siriani's decision on fourth down when they were trying to put the game away. Okay, you're right. We got to start there, and that's why Shucky is the best because part of me wants to give credit. This Eagles defense looks different now.

You add Nolan Smith and you add Jalen Phillips and you add Nikobe Dean as a big time factor and they look different. We'll give them all the credit for that. But what was Nick Siriani doing there? Break it down for us when he decides to go for. for it on fourth and six late in the game. What, what did you think about that decision and give

the listeners some context to that? Yeah. So, you know, the Packers have two timeouts left. All the Eagles need to do is get a first down. They don't get the first down. They successfully run the clock down far enough to where I believe there was 26 seconds left on fourth and six. They come out of the huddle. They line up as if they're going to run a play. And you can even hear, you know, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman saying, I can't imagine they would run a play here. Everybody expects that they're just going to try and draw them off sides. no, they call a time out because it ends up being a Kodak moment for them. They're trying to get a snapshot of what the defense is doing

because apparently they intend to run a play, which they do. And I don't know if it's an ego decision or what, but Nick Siriani draws up a fade to A.J. Brown, which does not work. And suddenly the Packers had the ball thrown 35 with just enough time to try to get in a field goal range. Just one of those classic two young coaches who've experienced a lot of success. I'm going to try to be the tough guy in this situation when I don't need to be. Yeah, shout out to the fans in the UK that we're hearing from

in the chat. We love everyone that joins us on YouTube live every Monday night. They're up at 4.30 in the morning. They only got to see one touchdown. But it was exciting. The call was crazy, though, because all night long, Nick Siriani was calling third and long runs. Bo Wolf, you know, he's been talking about it on the all-P-H-O-Y podcast all season. He actually has measured it.

He calls it the Cowards Run, and it's a run on third and 12 plus. And right now, the Eagles are in the mix for the highest percentages of runs on those play in the history of football. They refused to try on third and long. And yet in that spot, fourth and six, and I just checked, it was 33 seconds left to start that play. I do think it was about ego. And it does remind me at the beginning of last season. When Nick Siriani couldn't get out of his own way in a win or a loss, he was always the story. Just like it was a Nick Siriani, be normal for one week challenge, and he's back to failing that challenge.

And I think you called it right there, Nick. I think he wanted to have a moment. You know, A.J. Brown basically didn't get a target all night after the first quarter, and he knew they were going to have one-on-one coverage. And that has been a successful play for them down the field. But not tonight when it's cold. And, you know, A.J. Brown wasn't in the mix. And he was not open on that play. And it was just a hope ball.

And it was insane because the Packers, even though they had no timeouts, had 27 seconds to work with. And if they didn't mess up this screen pass where it looked like Josh Jacobs had all the room in the world and kind of had a strange path to him getting out in the formation, like they could have had plenty of time. And it's all we would have been talking about Nick Siriani. When we should be talking about his defense, just a strange man, Nick Siriani. And I blame him, by the way, for all those 30.

and 12 plus runs, all the Eagles fans in my mentions were like, no, Kevin Petulah's the play caller. Okay, they've been doing that since the day Nick Siriani got there. So it doesn't matter who the play caller is. They're doing it either way. Yeah, they also did it on 1st and 25 tonight, a classic draw, and ended up clawing their way back to 3rd and 11. So it's not the only time they'll do it. And then, okay, so that's typical of this game.

And you mentioned how it's scoreless at halftime, one of the, I believe, 10 Monday Night 4th, football games ever to be scoreless at halftime. That was according to Josh Dubot from the associated. First in 2009 and that game was Browns Ravens at what is now known to Hines Bank Field. Steelers rather. Yes. With the crazy punt that just sticks in the month.

Oh no. Yeah, that's that too. Yes. Stuck in Hinesfield's turf, yes. Formerly known as Hinesfield. And the turf kind of was a problem tonight too. It always is at Limbo Field. Everyone's slipping around.

It doesn't make for great football. football sometimes when it's cold or if it's a little wet, which it was tonight. And the thing that strikes me about the fourth quarter where they finally started scoring and we'll get to like how that all happened is Nick Siriani, because he needed to actually let Jalen Hertz throw a third and long in the fourth quarter because it was like, oh, we actually have to score some points to maybe win this game. You know what happened? He hits Devante Smith for a catch.

And then the very next drive after the Packers fall down 10-0. the Packers stopped trying to establish the run for once all night. And they go very pass heavy. And you know what happens? The Packers finally score a touchdown. This is what we talked about earlier this week. Like, Matt Lafleur is just all about this running game instead of letting Jordan Love kind of run the show for this Packers team.

I'm not going to try to take away credit here, but I think that some context is important on that drive because there was one, a key pass interference that gained them a big chunk of yards. And two, the Eagles with a 10-0 lead in the fourth quarter, we're playing much softer zone and giving up things underneath. So suddenly that passing game was going to open up. because if you compare the previous defensive situation versus that one, when they were only up 3-0,

they were playing much tighter coverage trying to force a stop and force a pun or a turnover on downs. And then they backed off once they realized, all right, we have a little bit of cushion to work with. We're going to give them some cushion. So I think that's also what helped open it up. I don't even really have a problem with them trying to establish the run. It's just that you don't get Jordan Love into a rhythm

and against a team that looked so good in the pass rush tonight with the Eagles defense, a team that lacked pass rush many times this, season. One key addition at the trade deadline, the continued development of Jailix Hunt, uh, it suddenly, you know, love never really got comfortable. So it's kind of a double edge sort with this offense right now. Okay, that's fair. And the design success rate for both teams was very low all night. They were in the low 30. So that, that was part of it and they were just missing a lot of passing place. Uh, question from the commenters did this. This is loaded. This is very loaded. Yes. Odds go down tonight like the Broncos did.

on Thursday. It strikes me that could be from a Broncos fan. I'm going to say no, because the Eagles have proven to us, even though I'm starting to have my doubts this season about this offense, that if they can just get to the dance, the talent can overwhelm the opposition, and they can figure it out. They have the backing of Super Bowl champs,

whereas the Broncos, to me, this has been a terrible offense for the most part, or at least passing game all season long. Yes. Let's also consider the opponent. opponent, they played a Raiders defense who couldn't stop a nosebleed. This time, they know the Eagles are playing the Packers. That also matters. That matters quite a bit. And I was thinking watching this game, though, that whichever team loses, the fan base is going to be furious. And I think Packers fans are furious right now after a second straight loss at Lambo. But I have a feeling

like Eagles fans aren't going to be that happy either. And I was thinking watching this game, and I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment, man, those teams in the NFC West. they do seem more complete right now than the Eagles or the Packers. We have a long way to go, and the Packers have the difficult task of having to win this division, the NFC North, where the Eagles kind of know they're going to win their division. And after next week's game against the Lions, really looking forward to that, they have a pretty soft schedule down the stretch. So that's an advantage for the Eagles.

And ultimately, I'm not shocked. Were you shocked that the Eagles won this game? Because when this got weird and ugly, and even when it was zero-zero, I was like, now the Eagles are going to win this just because it's kind of what they do in the end even though it's not great. Like, they've proven to us that they can win these types of games. And they did it tonight with some really great

defense. There's probably two or three reasons why I thought that the Eagles were going to win this game when it was three nothing. Okay. Number one, the Packers couldn't stop making the small mistakes, whether it's an illegal formation penalty that wipes out a big gain in the fourth quarter or them trying to down a punt at the one yard line, but they step on the

goal line and it results in a touchback. There's a number of, you know, drop Uh, Jordan loved, you know, putting a couple really nice on target passes that get dropped. They just, they couldn't get the little things right. And that's kind of been indicative of who the Packers have been all season. Just look at that Panthers loss for an example. It's also because the Eagles defense, which I know we're going to dive further into, they just looked a lot better tonight than they have proportions of this season.

And it's the pedigree. It's the fact that you have Sequin Barkley back there. And all you have to do is get him the ball in space once or twice where he has to make one man miss. and it can completely flip your offensive momentum, which is exactly what happened on their lone touchdown drive tonight. So it felt like that was inevitable, even though the game was pretty ugly. Okay, let's make it time for Who's Delivered by Uber Eats?

And let's talk about that touchdown drive. It's 3-0 in the fourth quarter. And yes, it's a two-play sequence starting with a Saquan Barkley spin move. And yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see at this point, it's a third and seven. Another time, hey, it's good to throw the ball on third and long occasionally. Sequin looked like he could get tackled in the open field. Instead, he puts the spin move on.

He goes down the field. And it does remind you that sometimes just their talent ultimately overwhelms the opposition, even if the coaching is even. And the Packers, without Tucker Kraft, without Jaden Reed, and with Jacobs not being as explosive, maybe don't have those type of playmakers. So the very next play, we got the first touchdown of the night. Johan Dotson in motion. Hurt's fakes, looks, steps up.

He is floating the football. It is for Devante Smith. Touchdown! He took it away from the defender. He took it out of the hands of Evan Williams. Devonte Smith from Jalen Hertz. Oh, that's a great call there by Merrill Reese. And, like, Devante Smith.

with the ball in the air is one of the best wide receivers in football. It's just he's so strong. It kind of defies logic. It does. And I can't be the first person to think this year, man, like, Devante Smith has been as valuable to this team

if not more so than A.J. Brown has been. He has really been excellent this year, even if the numbers don't look that different than his normal seasons. Yeah, when you're examining the two off of physical profile alone, you think, I'm throwing my jump balls to A.J. Brown. But that's what makes Devonza Smith special is that he is this very, you know, slender, skinny guy. He's slight in frame,

but he plays much bigger than that. And it's been his reputation throughout his career with the Eagles. And tonight, it was a huge reason why they were able to even put 10 points on the board. You know, that completing a long pass on third down, like you said to Smith later in the game was key. That toss there. I mean, look, Evan Williams had a really good game tonight at safety. He was all over the field. That was probably the one low light of his game. And it's because he was facing a guy as special as Devante Smith. Simple as that. Yeah, Devante Smith finishes with four catches for 69 yards, which in this game is a huge total. Neither team topped 300 yards. And yeah, AJ Brown ends up getting 13 yards on three targets. Only one in completion. A question for me,

am I still a shadow Eagles fan? I would say yes, but I just haven't been loyal. I've picked against them too many times in big spots, including tonight. So I feel like a dope for, or trusting the Packers, thinking that, like, here's the thing that no one expects they're going to do is win this game after losing to the Panthers. And just too many times they've been frustrating. Whereas in the end, like, I do appreciate that Jalen Hertz makes good decisions. Like, I really do think there is something to it.

Even if he's very careful, he tends to do exactly enough. And, yeah, that was a huge drive. And he did make a few more good plays the rest of the game. That was Who Delivered, presented by Uber Eats. When Football Makes You Hungry, Get Game Day Meals on Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now. I probably should have given it to Jalen Phillips.

Let's talk about Jalen Phillips's night. It almost feels, you know, a little braggy. Just say it with me, Shook. Howie did it? Did it again. See, we did it. Good job. It almost feels a little showy.

It's like, oh, I'm Howie Rose. I'm going to make a trade for like a third round pick, and then that guy's going to show up a few days later in prime time and basically win us the game. Tell me about Jalen Phillips's night. Yeah, I mean, first off, the trade made perfect sense. They lacked, you know, edge rushing talent. They lacked a difference maker since they had all these departures in the

off season, Joshua being one of them. You can go back two years, Hassan Radick, right? And it was the biggest weakness on their defense and perhaps on their entire team, say for when their offense struggled, right? So you go make that trade for Jalen Phillips on surface, ton of sense. But then you don't really expect a guy to have such an impact in his first game with his new team. He gets to halftime. He has three pressures, and he's already jumping off of the screen to me,

which is why I looked up his pressures at halftime. He finishes with a total of seven. He faced three double teams. He had one quick pressure. He was all over the place. He didn't get to run stuff according to next-gen stats, but I'll tell you what, he shook off a block and made a key run stop of Josh Jacobs as if he was a human brick wall. He shut that run down so quickly.

He was a massive difference maker. He was in on the fumble that was caused late in this game that essentially backed the Packers into a corner that they ultimately couldn't get out of. If you can get this type of production, it opens up everything up front because like I said, Jalick's Hunt continues to develop. He's had a nice little run of games here,

going back to the Minnesota game. But if you have Phillips on the opposite side, opens up everything else for all those other guys in the defensive line. And suddenly a group that you thought might be weak improves because you have a better player at the top of that list. Yeah, Jaylux Hunt actually played fewer snaps tonight,

43 snaps to Jalen Phillips, who played 53. And it felt like Nolan Smith was always out there. But really, they used him at the very beginning of the game when they needed it. And at the very end of the game, when they needed it. And he ended up with a sack and a quarterback hit. And it just makes you realize watching tonight, oh, this defense, which to me was the bigger problem. in the first five or six weeks,

even though the offense is getting all the attention is now, I think, safely moving into being the bigger problem. It actually was the defensive decline from league's best to, eh. When last year, the offense kind of was eh, in the regular season. And so that wasn't that different. And suddenly you're watching tonight, and Jihad Campbell's like playing a lot less now

because Nekobi Dean is out there almost every step. and Nikobi Dean had an awesome night tonight. He was super active, and you add Jalen Phillips. A PFF gave him even another pressure there. They gave him eight, and it's very funny how they love these guys. Brandon Graham is one of them. Eagles always think that guys that get a lot of pressures, but not a lot of sacks are undervalued.

Brandon Graham was the poster boy for that. And now they actually have Brandon Graham back, who did get a hurry in one of his brief snaps tonight. And they have Nolan Smith. back, who's been gone for almost the entire season, like, it's a different defense than it was before, and you have Quinnian Mitchell out there making huge plays. And I'm glad you mentioned that Jalen Phillips, you know, help on that Reed Blankenship force fumble. That comes in the fourth quarter, fourth and two. Tell the listeners about that sequence because that's really the stop

of the game. I know we kind of end up getting sidetracked by what happened. But ultimately, Jordan Love gets the ball like inside his own 20 with a chance over two minutes to go and drive the length of the field and potentially just get a game tying field goal and it winds up sputtering out around midfield. Yeah, all the momentum is in the Packers' favor when they get the ball back because they just went from being down 10-0 and having little hope to getting a quick stop defensively and getting the ball back with enough time to put together a drive as long as they could throw the football. And Love comes out and throws it well. He hits Christian Watson for like a gain of 25 to start on third down there to continue that drive and then suddenly they're off in sputters

and they're still only at their own 35 and then they hit Luke Musgrave for nine yards and it's like oh it's so close to a first down and it comes up short and then there's that fourth and one and that's where the game again turns in the favor of the Eagles when they get the pressure they're able to kind of close all the gaps force a fumble on Josh Jacobs and the rest is history yeah it It was kind of typical of a night where just everything Lafleur was trying didn't work well. And there was a funny shot early of him looking at the surface tablet and being frustrated and seeing like, oh, why didn't Jordan Love, you know, see those open receivers? And it did seem like early in the game Jordan Love was giving up on plays a little too quickly. Maybe Jalen Hertz too.

We have a question about like, is it possible for the head coach to develop and improve a game management? The Packers fans, they love Matt, but they'd hate to see him go, but his decision-making and these closed games is mind-boggling. I do think LeFleur is struggling at times with balancing game management and play calling. And some of the plays tonight, like, I don't kill them on. They go for a fourth and long, which made Troy Aikman and Joe Buck go crazy, and Bo Mellon just drops it. Like, they have another play. You mentioned the illegal formation. That was very frustrating, too.

They had three drives in Packers in Eagles territory before the ending sequence that ended in zero points, one where Jordan Loves ends up taking a J-Lix hunt snap. But I do think it's fair to point out, like, LaFleur seems to lose the forest for the trees at time. And he seems like as wound tight right now as he has ever been in his career. I think that they're not at like a crossroads or a turning point necessarily, but there's some sort of, I mean, it's just overall frustration because they haven't found their offensive rhythm. I thought they had broken through in that game against the Steelers. I thought,

all right, here they go. This is what they're going to do. But since losing Tucker Kraft, you know, in that game, they've lost the key that kind of unlocks their offense. So he's again frustrated. And I think there's also, it's a bit of balancing between how much does he trust Jordan Love because like on that drive right before half time, Love gets hit and it almost looks like he's trying to throw the ball away in a situation which you should just eat the sack, just take the sack and he fumbles

the ball, the Eagles recover. There goes an opportunity to put three points on the board right before halftime. And I think that that is still a point of frustration for him, but you can only control so much. You can dial up the plays, you can scheme it up and everything and it ultimately comes down to your quarterback to make plays. So, but I do agree,

anytime somebody's in a bad situation with game management, like if that's a knock on their resume, Hire somebody. Put him in the booth with the book in front of him that tells him exactly what to do in every scenario and radio, you know, get down on the headset and say, hey, you should call a time out here. Hey, you should probably do this here.

Hire somebody. Just make him a consultant and expert just for that alone. Comment here. Fangio owns all these little nerd boy coaches. I don't think that's fair. But it is kind of funny. Let's actually listen to that Jordan Love Fumble late in the first half,

Because, man, we got our producer, Chris Bobona, looking for highlights, you know, watching the whole first half. We didn't, we couldn't come up with one until this. And it felt so symbolic of what was happening in the first two quarters. And we're gone again as love puts a man in the motion. He's back. He's being chased. He's being grabbed. He fumbles the football.

I think the Eagles have it. Let's see. The Eagles say they have it. I think you're right. The football was loose. It was knocked out of his hand. Let's see. Eagles ball.

Eagles ball. So what looked like at least a 3-0 Packers lead at halftime is now in the hands of the Eagles. It's just these little moments with Jordan Love. And I have to admit, the QB Island committee was texting each other tonight. And at least from me, I won't speak for others. You know, maybe these are off the record. I don't know. I'm like, you know, Jordan Love always gives us reasons for why we shouldn't feel so bad

that he didn't make it on to QB Island last time around. You know what I mean? Like two weeks ago, people were talking about him. It's like, hey, look, he's number one in EPA per play. He should be in the MVP conversation. And I'm thinking, I don't know. I watch the games. And I know it's obviously been a bad two weeks for him, but he always leaves you wanting a little more.

Yep. Yeah. When he tried out on the field to start the game tonight and they threw up the graphic of his numbers, I was like, wow, that's way better than I thought they would be. Because I'm not a guy who's constantly checking the numbers. I'm just relying on what I'm watching. And I thought it was going to be nowhere near that because of exactly. what you just said. It's just very up and down. It's very fickle. Like, he's there sometimes.

Sometimes he's not. It just has not been consistent this year. Yeah, I was thinking about it watching Lamar today when I went back to watch that Minnesota game. And it's unfair to compare almost any quarterback to Lamar. But I was feeling like Lamar's really getting into his game manager kind of like era, not that he needs to all the time, but just doing everything that he needs to just win the game and kind of know the situation. I think he's better at that than ever. I think that's a superpower for Jalen Hertz. He has weaknesses for sure,

but I think that's a strength for Jalen Hertz, although he's not great in the two-minute situation, which is a big part of that, to be fair. Jordan Love, there's just something that he's missing right now. And I think he can put it together, but right now it does feel like he was taking a test tonight that he didn't study enough for. It is tough, though.

This Eagle's defense, like, where do you even pick on? Quinion looked awesome tonight. Cooper DeGine's been incredible all year. You have Blank and Chip showing up for that big play. You know, seeing Brandon Graham out there on a key third down, and he did the Brandon Graham thing where his one hurry, I know which one it was, tonight was on that second to last drive. And it was just, you know, collapsing the pocket by just pushing his guy back about three yards.

There's nothing flashy, but it's enough to make. the opposing quarterback, Jordan Love, in this case, feel uncomfortable. And they do have a lot of answers, and they do have a pretty favorable schedule. It is pretty tough, you know, to doubt the Eagles too much, even if I know Philadelphia Sports Radio will be after this game. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's what's now a Tuesday morning, usually a Monday morning in Philly, if you're not calling in and complaining about something that didn't go well in a win for the Eagles.

But, you know, what struck me tonight was the, because of the addition of guys like Jalen Phillips, how deep the Eagles defense suddenly seems again, with the return of Nolan Smith. Like, Zach Bond, all pro linebacker, has kind of been invisible for good stretches of this season with this defense. And that's perfectly fine, but that was a leading figure in your defense last year. And what it has allowed Vic Fangio to do, I'm not going to back up the whole he owns the nerd coaches thing, but what it does allow him to do is change up their pressure looks. There was a ton of sim pressures. There was delayed blitzers that are, you know, adding to the four men rush, making it a five, catching an offensive lineman off guard.

But if you have the capability of being able to drop guys that are usually rushing back into coverage and creating simulated pressures for a quarterback who might not trust his offensive line as much because of those pressures and also lost his center tonight, which definitely impacted their ability to hold up in the second half, then you can find success on that side of the ball. And that's why I believe in them so much more

than I maybe did a few weeks ago just because the defense seems like it's coming together at just the right time. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that about losing Elton Jenkins in this game to injury. And that was a factor in terms of their offensive line. Now, it was in the second half, but that's going to be an important injury to watch.

Lane Johnson also was carted to the locker room after having an injury in the first half. And man, I thought that was like a multiple week injury after I saw that. And he ended up coming back. Question here, did we talk about the tush pushes and penalties yet? No, I always try to avoid tush push stock. But I'm glad it didn't end up being a huge factor in this game.

The game did start, however, with both teams getting away with what appeared to be false starts on, in the Packers case, like a QB sneak, and in the Eagles case, a flat out, tush push. And then did the Eagles get away with another one later in the game? I believe they did. They also called one on the Packers, yeah. Yeah, they actually called one on the Packers. That was what I was talking about. I actually thought when it was third and two late on one of those Eagles drive that they were

going to go back to back. That's what I thought, too. And they did a little handoff to Saquan lined up as the upback. Like, Nick, you're trying to give people a moment. You're trying to give people what they want. The script writers had it all set for you. Like, end that thing out with the double touch push. Be vindictive.

This is what we want. Yeah, we don't want however that game ended. Another comment that someone saying the Packers will miss the playoffs and the Eagles are a first round. I'm going to disagree on both. You know what's interesting. I'm going to look at the NFC standings here for a second. The Eagles are the number one seed in the NFC right now.

That's not going to hold. It's kind of funny because it doesn't feel that way. And they get to play the number three seed next week on Sunday night football, the Lions, which is really exciting. But now with these back-to-back losses, and of course those games they gave up to the Panthers to the Panthers, into the Browns, and the tie with the Cowboys, the Packers are down at the number seven seed, and they have a very challenging schedule the rest of the way.

They are just ahead of the 49ers at eight. Now, the NFC maybe is not quite as deep. It's really good at the top, but it's not quite as deep. So personally, I don't think that, let's say, the 49ers, you do have a pretty easy schedule, or the Panthers or the Vikings are going to pass the Bears along with the, I mean, the Packers, along with the Bears who are right now ahead of the Packers. So in the end, I think the Packers are going to be making the playoffs, and it wouldn't

surprise me if they still ended up winning this division. But at this point, you have to just trust the Lions more that they're a tougher team. Yeah, for sure. But I do think this playoff picture is going to get complicated, and we may enter postseason situation in which it wouldn't be shocking if some wildcard teams won on the road. Because if you look at it right now, like, you obviously have the Eagles going to run away with the east, but the north is very undecided. The Buccaneers are going to

run away with the south. The west is very undecided, and I think two of the best teams of the NFC reside in the west. So then it comes down to a process of elimination. Which division gets three teams in? Is it the north or is it the west? And right now, I can't, because of where the Packers are in the way the Bears have been playing right now, it's a

little bit difficult to determine. You consider all the injuries that the Niners have dealt with as well. Let's move to Wildcard weekend where, okay, let's say the Eagles are the two seed. And they're going to end up facing the Packers or Bears as the seven seed. Like, oh, let's not

let's not put the Bears in the playoffs. I know we're getting way ahead of ourselves. I think we could get some weird matchups that could produce upsets. Okay, so let's go through the Packer schedule the rest of the way. They're at the Giants in their first game under new interim head coach. Mike Kafka. And we

had a Breaking News podcast with Ian Rappaport. That's up in the feed if you guys are interested. Then they have the Vikings. They're at Detroit, Bears at Denver, at Chicago, home for the Ravens, and at Minnesota. No real cupcakes there after that Giants game. And yeah, you got four division games against the Bears and Vikings alone. And then you're going to Detroit, too.

So it's a lot. It's a lot there for the Packers. And I love that they're going to be in the middle of things. I think to your point, though, and I was thinking about this today in the AFC, but it extends the NFC, too. like the following teams are some combination of the following teams like very well could be wild cards let's say like ravens chiefs and bills like two of those three teams could be wild cards this year and then pick pick one of either the rams or the seahawks and pick one

of either the packers or the lions they're going to be wild cards so that's that's a lot of good teams that are potentially going to be playing on the road in the wild card round and that that makes this stretch run, even more exciting. What else do you want to hit in this game before we say goodbye to Nick's show? You know, I already kind of exhausted my Evan Williams edition, whose name I only remember because it's also the name of a cheap whiskey. I mean, this receiving cordontavian wicks made a handful of nice plays for the Packers, but ultimately I think that they should probably stop targeting Bow Melton, considering they

made him a corner, and now he's suddenly playing a receiver again? So that really speaks to where they're at. Romeo Dobbs left this game with a chest injury. Now, that wasn't until, I think, late third, early fourth quarter. He still had 41 snaps tonight, but they desperately need Jaden readback. And Dantavian Wix is playing a full complement of snaps. I think he's an NFL receiver, and I think he has some upside. But you have Malik Heath out there quite a bit, and you don't even have.

have Bow Melton listed among the wide receivers on NGS because they think he's a defensive back. But he played 24 snaps on offense tonight. And yeah, it's not a good sign. I don't know if they have the horses to score a lot against an excellent defense. And the playoffs are about matchups. And I think they're going to really need to count on their defense to be carrying them. I think it's possible. It's a pretty special defense. Like, Michael Parsons look great tonight, and we shouldn't look past how good the Packers defense was tonight to.

Give them some love, actually, before we get in. Yeah, I agree. Edge Cooper had a phenomenal punchout. The year of outrageously precise peanut punches continues with another big one in prime time. Yeah, they have a lot of talent on that side. It's just a matter of being a cohesive theme. And I think that, you know, we talked about power rankings earlier. I do lack confidence in them right now.

say they can't turn it around, but because of what they've done offensively or the lack of what they've done offensively. I think it's going to be a difficult challenge. They're going to have to really find themselves and establish a bit of a rhythm here in the last, what are we now, eight weeks of the season. There's been different stress test moments of the Matt Lafleur era, so I don't want to talk like this is entirely unique, but I think with the expectations that they had this season, and I think with Jordan Love being in year three and the Parsons trade and just where his tenure is at, it's one of the biggest tests for them to come through and they have to really show that Jordan Love is that dude. The Eagle schedule, by the way, the rest of the way,

after the Lions on Sunday night, you have at Dallas, home for bears, at the Chargers, home for Raiders, at commanders, at Bills, and home for the commanders. Actually, I think that's like a perfect type of schedule. I always like that. If it's my team, you want to have big time tests and you want to have some cupcakes and they have a little bit of bowl. So you have something you can kind of just chalk up as wins, but they're also going to stay very sharp with games like that Bill's game and certainly next Sunday night. Yeah.

We will be talking about it like four shows from now. It feels so far away that Sunday night football. Yeah, I mean, we'll get there. I still have a few games to get through tonight, so we'll get there in due time. You'll love Houston Jacksonville if you haven't gotten to that one. I'll love it. I watched it live, baby. Oh, man.

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