NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Fantasy Football Mock Draft + Latest News

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

Gregg Rosenthall is joined by the NFL Network's Fantasy Football Podcast crew to help you draft a winning team! Before the draft primer, Gregg and Jourdan Rodrigue get you caught up on all the news from around the NFL including players who have been activated before the start of the season (01:45) and a couple trades (04:50). After the break, Gregg and the Fantasy crew draft their top-30 fantasy players going into the season. Find out who is selected first overall (14:06) and where players like Justin Jefferson (21:30), Derrick Henry (25:30), Ashton Jeanty (35:00), and Brock Bowers (45:20) come off the board.  Note: time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we have been traded for a conditional late round pick. I am Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in the Chris Wesleying podcast studio, joined by Jordan Roderick. And it's a little different today, Jordan. We're going to go over some of the news. It's Thursday, August 21st. Trades are happening all over the league. They're going to keep happening. And so we wanted to make this show as current as humanly possible. Hit a bunch of those trades and transactions and news at the top.

And then we're going to throw it to a segment that we taped earlier in the week where we drafted our fantasy teams for the year and you insisted on not being part of anything fantasy football related because you hate fantasy football. So it's strong. It's strong. Not my area of expertise, I would say.

Not a fantasy football player myself. It's fine. You wouldn't have made sense in this one. Yeah, I would have just been someone sitting off to the side just listening to dudes talk. It's like most of my life anyway. It was a lot of dudes. Marcus Grant, Mike Florio, Laquan Jones for the first time,

all from the NFL fantasy group and then of course our friend Patrick Claibon. So we went five deep. We drafted about 30 plus players. We talked about all the strategy. That is coming up in a little bit and it's a nice, meaty segment. So I'm feeling the heat here. I want to put a clock on us. Can we do all this news in 10 minutes? I don't know. You talked for a long time about should it be 10 minutes, should it be 12 minutes? You talked more about that than I think this actual segment. Okay. Well, from 10 minutes from now, Eric, can we do that? Can we put it on the clock? And let's roll through because more stuff will happen as we're taping. It's just like a lot of little things,

but it's answering questions that we've had throughout the offseason. I'm going to start not with the trades because I think the bigger names are actually the activations. And I find these interesting. Who has been activated off the PUP list? This is that week where it's like, all right, it's go time. If you're going to try to play anywhere near the beginning of the season, you need to start practicing football. And so I'll list off a few names who have been activated. Chris Godwin, surprisingly, activated. The plan is to carry him on the roster at the start of the year. We also heard with the Bucks that Tristan Worf's is going to be on the roster at the start of the year. Their left tackle interest doesn't mean they're ready for week one, but they're going to be on the roster. Jalen

McMillan, I don't know if we quite hit this on our last one though is going to miss about half the season. So that plays into the wide receiver equation. Legerius Sneed of the Titans, their cornerback was activated this week. Darren Waller, the tight end now with the Dolphins. and then Andrew Thomas, the left tackle of the Giants who I've been tracking, you can take whatever you find the most interesting of all of these situations, but all guys who are at least taking a positive step towards getting back on the field. Yes, not actually surprising to me, the Chris Godwin and the Tristan Werf's situation, because their timelines were slated optimistically for October, right?

So if you're going to mess with some of the IR designations, putting guys on, taking them off, depending on how the ramp-up period for both goes. October is coming up very quick, first of all, and you wouldn't quite hit that six-week window anyway for injured reserve in order to then start bringing people back. So I think that this makes a lot of sense that they're going to carry them both and they won't have to burn designations, essentially. They could potentially use them for other players down the line

to then bring them back. So I think that this is interesting enough to where they're not starting the season with them on another designation. You know, they're starting the season with them. actually in the building, working back into what they've described. Todd Bowles has described as this like extended ramp up period. And then Darren Waller, we knew was going to have a little bit of a lengthier time back to actually participating in practices, getting his body back under him back together after

spending so much time away from football. We did know that. Andrew Thomas was a little bit. This is the one I've kind of got my eye on because he's got to get back out there and get into taking these snaps and these reps is. He's so important to that Giants offensive line. We'll see if any of these guys are actually ready week one. Legerius Sneed, who we haven't heard from much,

who's coming off of a knee injury, which is different than the one that kept him sideline all last year. And it's really important to that Titans team. Will he ever be a plus cornerback? Again, he says he thinks he'll be ready for week one. None of them are certain to. Andrew Thomas, I think it's taken a little longer than the Giants maybe hoped. But yes, if you're on the reserve PUP list,

you have to miss at least the first four games of the season. So the window is open for these guys to play earlier. You know, the Titans, the Bucks rather, have been hit more by injuries, probably than any other team. You got the best left tackle in the league. Godwin, I think it's gone a little slower than they maybe were hoping.

And then you lose a really good number three slash four receiver in McMillan. Let's get to the trades. Devon Valle. And this was the most interesting one. The rest are mostly guys who probably weren't going to make the team And maybe Devon Bailey was not going to make the Broncos. He got traded to the Saints for a fourth and a seventh round pick. So that's like the Jonathan Mingo price for the Cowboys a year ago,

a trade that was roundly mocked by people like ourselves. And I would say this trade, at least in New Orleans, is getting roundly mocked. Like people making fun of Mickey Loomis for giving up too much for Devon Valle from the Broncos. Any takeaways here? My takeaway is I enjoyed your post about the situation that Sean Payton is still running the Saints.

I know. He just calls he calls up his guy Mickey Loomis who I'm not sure if he was in the wedding. I literally spent like 30 minutes trying to confirm this just to put it in the tweet. And it's Greg Seaseless Life. Couldn't confirm that he was in the wedding, but he was at the wedding.

You know, they've called each other best friends before. And it's like Sean Peyton just calls up his buddy and convinces him that he's got good offers for Devon Bailey. Our friend Adam West reported that, you know, for the Saints Block. Party podcast that like other teams, the 49ers, he said specifically, we're just offering like pick swaps, like late round pick swaps. And they give up a fourth and a seventh. Now that said, I kind of like Devon Bailey. Like he could be their third or fourth best receiver. Their skill

position group for the Saints, it's not bad. If they actually had a good quarterback and a offensive line that works and both of those, you know, the quarterback is obviously an uphill battle and the offensive line to me is very TBD. I mean, I don't mind that group. Alave, Shaheed, Velae. I kind of like what I see out of Mason Tipton. Joanne Johnson's okay. You have Alvin Camara. You have Kendry Miller. Like, that's not bad.

The problem is process always with the Saints. You gave up way more than you needed to, and you gave Brandon Cook's $7.7 million guaranteed this offseason. That's the worst contract. What does that mean? I'm just talking too much in general. Five minutes in. You said you want 10.

Okay, that's a five minute mark. Okay. I feel good about that. I feel good about that. I mean, were you aware I was not that Brandon Cook's got 7.7 million. guaranteed in the year 2025. That's the worst contract that I think anyone gave out all offseason.

Just, it's just, you know, I don't think it moves the needle to the level that it's moving the needle for you, honestly. Just bad team building. I mean, that's a lot of money. I don't know if he's even going to make the team. He had less than 300 yards last year. Like, who's giving out,

why are they doing that? Anyways. Well, they're also sending a fourth round pick and a seventh round unnecessarily. For a 27-year-old guy who is... I don't know why these things continue to surprise you is basically my reaction. Yeah.

teams are just going to call up trying to take advantage. He was a seventh round pick a year ago. You know, we're going to do a segment with your friend, Cody Alexander. It's going to air on Saturday that I'm really excited about. Things that changed our mind

a little bit since the beginning of training camp. This valet trade actually has some real world application in that I believe that the Broncos wide receiver group is a little further along than I did a month ago in terms of they really like their rookie Pat Bryant. Obviously, they have Marvin. Mims there who they kind of know it with Cortland Sutton and then they really like the elevation

of Troy Franklin. And that's why you can make a trade like this. So I actually think there's a real world takeaway that the Broncos wide receiver group is much better than it was a year ago. Yeah, this was sort of just like shedding someone that they didn't necessarily need that that didn't necessarily fit. Pat Bryant, I mean, they're really excited, really excited about Pat Bryant. Third round pick. Sounds like he's going to be playing some of that like power slot kind of role for them as well. So it makes sense. Yeah. So. There you go. We've talked enough about this, I think. Okay. The other trades, I'll just mention, Harrison Phillips, who was a captain previously for the Vikings, was traded for a sixth, essentially, and then a six and seventh swap.

He's a defensive tackle, a veteran gives some depth to the jet. Sky Moore was traded for a 2027, six to seven swap. Sometimes, too, when these trades are reported, there are conditions that they're almost embarrassed to say, like, he has to make the team. He was not going to make the chiefs. he might not make the Niners. They're just extremely injured there. And so those were your trades. We don't need to hit those too much.

I did notice Cam Hayward ended his holding. I don't know if he got anything out of it. Like, we'll see if he gets anything contractually in the future. But Cam Hayward of the Steelers back on the field. And then we got the news Thursday, the Eagles wide receiver, Johnny Wilson, who was going to be their wide receiver four, had an injury on Tuesday and we'll miss the season. I do want to point out one thing on the season. guy more thing. No, I don't think that this is going to solve their problems. And they're obviously

waiting for DeMarcus Robinson to get back after his three games suspension. That was announced. So that's a nice little news nugget to knock out. Kyle Shanahan said it on K&BR that to Marcus Robinson was going to miss the three games, but then also that they're allowed to appeal. So we'll kind of see if they end up doing that. That happened when DeMarcus Robinson was a member of the Los Angeles Rams here in L.A. last year. And they people in that market, Matt Barrows and Tim Kyle Kalakami has a snow fortnighters plus minus today. All of this is spiraling around the Joanne Jennings situation. He's still quote unquote with the calf injury.

However, um, Tim Kalakami had like a suspicion and he didn't want to be aggregated, but I'm kind of blowing up his spot anyway, uh, he had this suspicion that like Kyle Shanahan will reach a certain point where he would just rather trade him than work out a contract situation because of how frustrated the team seems to be getting about this, especially considering the receiver situation that they're in right now. And Matt Barrow's throughout, was it Kendrick Bourne? Yes. Saying that Kyle's always had like his eye on Kendrick Bourne.

Kendrick Bourne 49er. I'm going to say for a 2027 sixth, it's happening. The problem is he's hurt right now. And so it's difficult to trade guys that are hurt. But yeah, they have, I think Jacob Cowan, their young receiver, had a reoccurrence of his hamstring injury. They just keep getting hurt. like no one is healthy.

Russell Gage, who was maybe going to play snaps for them, is now out for a couple weeks. It's just a little bit of a mess. All right, let's fly through the rest. Lamar Jackson got stepped on at practice. Everyone got panicked. Then we heard it's fine. It's not a big deal.

He didn't miss practice Thursday. So it's a little bit of a deal. Let's at least track it. I'm sure he'd like to practice. The biggest news I have left is that Caleb McGarry is going to miss time into the regular season. The tackle for the Falcons who just got paid. and that was just after news

that his backup Storm Norton also was hurt. He was hurt over the weekend. That's a six to eight week injury. Suddenly the Falcons are completely out of starting right tackles to start the season. That's not good.

We've reached 10 minutes and I'm still going to go over and just tell you Matthew Judon's back in the league. He's with the dolphins. And yeah, we're going to see a little Dylan Gabriel. We're going to see a little shader this weekend in that order.

Joe Flacco will say, start, get a little preseason action. So that's the Brown situation. The Saints are not declaring a starter going into preseason week three, which it's pretty rare that happens. But it does happen sometimes. I believe the Seahawks in the Russell Wilson year did not. They waited until after the third week of the preseason. We did it. We just went over a tiny bit, but we're good. Just a little. Yeah. I think Eric is going to need our producer is going to need something a little bit stronger next time to play you off the stage. Air horns. Air horns. I think honking is more...

Let's be clear. This is never going to happen. More insulting. It happened. All right, let's get to the fantasy. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL, visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are no longer in too many fantasy leagues. At least I'm not. I'm here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio surrounded by more gentlemen than I ever have been

in this studio, and they are in too many fantasy leagues. Let's go right to left. They're all on NFL Fantasy Live or the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast Laquan Jones, the newest member of the podcast. Of course, you know and love Patrick Claibon.

Maybe not the second one. To my left. And we've got Michael F. Florio and Marcus Grant, we're going to, it's Fantasy Day here at NFL Day. Sweet. Appreciate you guys. Sweet. Oh, you've got to be part of this.

My world's colliding. Like, I, it's, it's, this is, this is why we do this. Yeah. And Patrick, you said you're only in like four leagues, but you guys are in double digits. And I had to get out of that life. And I'm just, I'm just focusing it down to about one league right now. So you're this one that we're going to draft today. No, this one that we're going to draft.

And for the listeners out there, we're just going to go through. These is obviously not a team. that we're going to track all season long, but I just wanted a way to talk about as many high leverage fantasy players as possible. So we're going to do a mock draft. We'll see how many picks that we get through. Keep track of like their four-man league last year.

I do not know. I do not know what happened to that league. But I guess we'll just get going with the number one overall pick. And I like staying in an order. And Laquan, it's the first time you've been in the studio. Yeah, awesome.

So you get the honors this time of the number one overall pick. All right. Some folks might think I'm going wide receiver, Jamar, Chase, but I'm going to Bajon. It's Bajon, by the way. Bajon Robinson at the 101 spot. I mean, honestly, when Zach Robinson says he's flirting with the idea of getting Michael Pennix, a little bit more vertical downfield,

and that's kind of like what we want. And Bijon, he's one of those guys going to be running those routes. He's going to be getting those dumpoffs, and we already know he's in that freak tier when we look at, Juan Barclay. You said Bajon at first. Yeah, it is. You got to stick with it. You got to put it stick with it. It does not rhyme with a type of mustard. Real ones, no.

I've been trying to do this on game day view over the last few years with Bajan. Because he said it before, previously. And I think this is the time to do it, because I'm totally with you if I had had the number one overall pick. I would have taken that too. Are you guys different in your leagues? This is

a PPR league for everyone out there. I mean, I'm taking Jemar Chase, but I don't have, I have no quarrel at all with Bejohn Robinson. That's how I feel as well. Yeah. I don't get it because to me the wide receiver like Jamar Chase is amazing but I don't see a huge difference between like wide receiver

one and wide receiver seven or eight. Whereas you know, I think you could make the case, Bajon and Gibbs and maybe Sequehuan are just like a special group of human athletes. Well, I think you include Jamar Chase in that particular tier where yeah, all those guys are threats to score anytime they touch the ball, but Jamar specifically

do the location of where he touches the ball. Yeah. Bengals games are going to be first to 40 wins too. Okay. That's totally fair. I do like that.

It's year two of the Falcons. And I like the continuity that Jemir Gibbs has in Detroit. So I will take him with the second pick in this graph. Wow. Running back. Wait, is that weird?

That's kind of weird. I haven't seen that. Wow. Yeah, Chase's not going in the first two picks is like, I've never seen that. That's awesome. This is why.

I like to do this, and I'm the Stinky Davis, who, like, doesn't know exactly. Who is Stinky? I don't know. That's an old phrase of our friend did hands us in this studio. I'm totally going to start using that now. I think it's useful to be another example, the poker player who doesn't exactly play by all the rules at the table and you mess with everyone else. And to me, it's not that logical that, like, Chase is just one because he was like, because he wasn't that last year. He was just in the mix of all these great wide receivers.

And to me, I guess I just would feel a little better of getting some great wide receivers on the way back. Whereas Gibbs, I mean, to me, he's just like everything you can possibly want in an NFL running back and on the absolute perfect team. Yeah, on a season where running backs went nuclear, actually the top score at the running back position because Sequin set out that last game was Jemir Gibbs. And you could, I know it's different and we haven't seen it. But these two go on one two makes perfect sense because they're both. like in that contract here if that's your thing they're both explosive guys who've managed to be you know healthy so like yeah that it makes sense i enjoy it from a like how can you not be romantic about football like these two guys are going to be tied together their entire career and now

and for them to be like the first two running backs off the board is really cool to me also i've been owning this horrible tweet that i made after they drafted jimier gibbs where i said that Gibbs and Montgomery weren't really that big of an upgrade over Jamal Adams and DeAndre Swift Ever since, like every good prime technique, it's partly because I bring it up all the time. I should stop it.

So every retweeted that right now. Every single Lions game, I get some of those retweets. So I'm trying to like fix it. By the way, since I rarely get to do this with Bejohn, last week, I talked to Cowboys linebacker DeMarvian overshone and asked him

who's the best football player he ever won against. he said, hands down, it's Bejan. Like, and explained all the reasons why. So, all knowers, no. You got the third pick, Pat. A little bit of hook him there. I'm reading the disambugation on Stinky Davis. There's a lot of folks.

Yeah, it's a clown from season two of episode of Garfield and Friends, a character in the Amit and Costello show. I'm thinking Jemar Chase, because, you know, we've already talked about it. Yeah, the, the, the, this idea that Al Golden, it was all lose fault, right? And Al Golden is going to come in and fix the Cincinnati Bengals defense. I don't necessarily believe that. Yeah, I don't think they might be as bad. They're still going to need to score a whole bunch.

Saw them in the preseason for some reason. Turns out Jamar Chase is still good. I don't know that we need to try to break tackles and die for the pylon in the preseason. But yeah, I've seen enough. He's my pick here. Yeah. And when I was trying to push back a little against Chase, he's still the wide receiver one. He's still like as safe as it could possibly be.

Yeah, I just feel like there's less there. All right. Go, go, Mike. I don't love this spot because like I think you guys took all the obvious top guys but I'm gonna go you have to pick here between your top wide receivers I think I'm gonna go with CD Lam

I think a lot of people would go Justin Jefferson but I like Dak Prescott a little bit more than Jefford than JJ McCarthy but even more I think we're gonna get CD Lam in the slot a whole bunch and that's what led to his breakout year two years ago last year moved back more to the X I just think with Pickens there

lamb is gonna just go off I mean look man I am all board for C.D. Lamb, but at that spot, I probably take neighbors. Like, I do love... Wow. I think there's going to be video game numbers that we're seeing. Just with the Russell Wilson Moonball, like we're seeing

him hit this two random guys that are probably, you know, second and third string. Now, insert Malik Neighbors in that department. This is where you're going to get that freak tier level of guys of like Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson. I do think neighbors is in that tier challenge. Huge boost. I guess I'm just not sold

that the Russell Wilson Moonball still exists. on the same level it did years ago. Fair. And I'm not convinced that he's going to be the starter past September 25th or something, just throwing out a random day. At some point, Jackson Darts taken over that. But that was one of the games that, like, I mean, one of the things that the Giants struggled with last season was that deep ball. And Flora, you hit it on the last episode, 20% completion rate on

balls that are downfield last. Like, that was completely strapped to bad quarterback play. Now you get the upgrades. You got Winston. You got Darp back there. Even if Russell's not cooking in December, because the recipe is a little bit changed, which we know he gets cold around that time. Because he's eating.

I think that, you know, even if a Winston comes in, we see the spike weeks. He doubled Jerry Drew's production last season. So it's like he is in a safe spot right now where I think he's going to be cracking that top three of the fantasy wide receivers that we know and in love. I think Lamb is a little safer health-wise just because neighbors freaks me out a little bit

that he's always missing practice and he's a younger player. Like, Lamb has proven it year after year. I do think there might be a little more, Jake Ferguson and George Pickens to divvy it up, but there's obviously like a bigger pie. I love neighbors. The only difference for me is you don't have to worry about a quarterback change. Yes. That leads me

to Lamb and Jefferson over him. Tommy Cutlets ain't coming in. Hey, big jersey. Unless, God forbid, anything happens to that. Three of them? Because Catastrophic. Joe Milton's thrown that ball over the mountain and I don't know if TD can climb it. All right, Marcus, you're up with the fifth pick.

And we're not doing a snake draft. So we're going to go to Laquan after this. All right, that's cool. By the way, St. Stevie Davis also played three major league seasons between the Detroit Tigers and the St. Louis Browns, a career 264 hitter with seven total. Wait, for real? For real.

What years? Abbott and Costello, that is, see, that makes sense. You think it's Abbott and Costello? Well, that's where it must have started. And then Garfield's, like, copying it, and it's just become the, it was a season two episode of Garfield and French. He played for the Tigers in 1932 and 33. Then he took a break, and he played for the St. Louis Browns in 37.

Wow. What do you think that break? was. I have no idea. He probably went to like, I don't know. War. They didn't. Yeah, that's what I was five year break. It was literally my same war. War. Exactly. All right. So here in the fifth spot, here's the beauty of being in this spot is that you guys have taken like a lot of good guys. So I got always to be like, well, I took this guy because, you know, that's, that's who was sort of left to me. So like, you know, the, the onus is put on you all at this point. I'm going to take Justin Jefferson here because I remember this time last year,

we sort of downgraded Justin Jefferson. We're like, Sam Donald's, starting quarterback. I don't know what's going to happen. Are we worried about it? And everybody sort of knocked him down draft boards. And then, you know, it turns out that Justin Jefferson is still good regardless of who the quarterback. I mean, it definitely helped that Donald had a career season, but Justin Jefferson was still really good. And so I think at this point, even with J.J. McCarthy, I think we still believe in Kevin O'Connell's offense. We believe in Justin Jefferson's talent. So I have zero problems taking him here. I totally agree. And I feel like what's why him and Sequin, for instance, last year fell a little

too far. To me he is, that's why I don't think there's some crazy difference between him and Chase and Lamb and apparently Malik Neighbors, who's I guess is coming next. He's coming next, but let me pivot a little bit, because I don't know if you know, but Stafford's back. Like Pooka and Google will be my pick at the

106. Oh, okay. Because with Stafford back in pads. You just spent like five minutes saying you to make neighbors? I'm just saying, I'm going to take neighbors here, but I want to put Puka's name in consideration. Like, I might actually stare at neighbors a little bit but Pooka's going to be in the peripherals.

I feel good taking him as well here because I do think with Stafford back. So who are you taking? I'm taking Pooka into Pua. So Puka is the pick. Puka is the pick, man. Superman is back. The shirt is on for a reason

because Stafford's back in office. And I do feel like Pooka, he's going to have those video number games. And I think when do you add into Devante Adams, there's going to be a lot more scoring opportunities where I think the Puka and the Cua touchdowns may go up as well. All right. I'm up next, and I have to consider, you know, this isn't a real team. So if it's just for value of where we're at, like, Sequin as your RB2 is amazing.

Or, you know, at this spot, there's another, you know, receiver or three I love. But I think if it was my team, I would go with Seekon. I have the same concerns that anyone would of all that workload last year. And I don't think they're going to really let off from him. But I'm just hoping that he is like Derek Henry, like built different and that he's just got to, he's going to be able to hold up and not expecting everything that happened a year ago to happen that he's so safe because of the touchdowns that I don't think you should go any further in the first round. Yeah. And even if you if you're projecting regression, like why you could project Jalen Hertz touchdown scoring regression, right? And then that that's in Sequan's number up.

You know, Sequan carrying my team last year. I hate that I don't get a chance to have them in this hypothetical. I mean, if these were teams, I would be the only man in America with Bejohn and, I mean, Gibbs and Sequin is my top two. You know what? I'm sure at some point we'll get a tweet or somebody like, hey, so I got Jemir Gibbs and Sequin Barkley and some keeper league. Like, Josh Jacobs. Like, what do I do? Like, okay.

All right. Trade. We are up with the. Eighth pick, Patrick. And it could be famous last words. And I know people would say it's a reach because Ashton Gentie is in that top 10 for a lot of people.

And I love the idea of linebackers in conflict. Brock Bowers is Genti the priority, like how that works out. But I got to take Derek Henry. Once again, I know that there's a push from Keaton Mitchell. I'm glad to see him back and healthy. Yeah,

there could be some six-yard Lamar touchdown scrambles. But let's be honest, on second and goal from the two. it's probably going to 22. And for however long it lasts, yeah, I'll be the last one on. Well, the other part of this, though, is the Ravens have never really forced the issue

with Lamar Jackson at the goal line. I mean, he gets his rushing touchdowns, but usually he's running them in from, you know, 10, 12 yards out. When they get close, it's never been, hey, we're going to, you know, use you for a sneak, we're going to do a tush push. And that was even before Derek Henry. Now you've got this behemoth in the backfield.

Why wouldn't you turn around and just hand it off to him from the two? and let him do his work. My biggest basic concern for him is it just was nice taking him the last few years when his stock was down. You know what I mean? Like you said you'll be the last one. Yeah, it was never down for me. That would work.

And my friend Evan Silva, the, you know, he would always call him the big dog. Every year he would always be like the big dog is is underrated. And, you know, that's proven to be right way more often than it's been wrong. But I do. I just never love drafting anyone who was getting taken a few. rounds later. He's still a second round. Now in the middle or the second round.

Not if you're Patrick Claybush. Yeah. A very good piece of an offense that was almost too efficient last year. There were a lot of 14, 17, and 26 yard touchdowns where there could have been touchdowns left on the board for Derek Henry. I'm fine having him. As I have been his entire career, by the way. It is an awesome backfield, though.

He has probably as good as good backups as he's ever had with Justice Hill and Keaton Mitchell. All right. You're up, Florio. I'm going to take the guy that we spent most of my. my time talking about last pick. Malik neighbors. Like I agree with everything LQ said, the deep ball being there.

I think talent wise that he is on the same par as like a Chase Jefferson Lamb. And I think by the end of the year we'll put him in that group. But he has to get there first. But yeah, I mean, he was putting up historic numbers

with the quarterbacks that he had last season. So like I think there's three quarterbacks on the roster now better than anything throwing him the ball last year. So I'm all about Malik News in round one. That's a fair point that, like, even if they are switching, I'm taking Jackson Dart over what they had last year. And if James gets in there, it should be a lot of fun.

The back problem in camp has me like a little spooked. But I do like the camp reports before he got hurt where they said the target distribution in practice was like he had 27 targets. The next closest receiver had like six. I think Neighbors is one of those guys that just doesn't practice, you know? Like, it wouldn't surprise me if during the year, like Wednesdays is his scheduled off day. Like, he's just one of those guys. That's why Rondo Robinson went in the third round. He's getting pumped up in my chaos.

Your home league is super chaotic, man. In the third round, Travis Hunter, 101. So, yeah, that lets you know what I'm working. I don't trust anything that's happening. Marcus, you're up. All right, so I got, there are a couple different names I am looking at here. But you know what? I'm going to make the movie.

I'm going to take Christian McCaffrey at this point. I feel like the attitude around him has changed. because early in draft season, for those of us sickos who've been doing this for a few months, he was originally going like in the third round and everybody was like freaked out. And I think everybody started to remember that when he's healthy, he's still on the field for like 90% of the snaps. He is still the engine that kind of makes this in this offense go. The two and a half games we saw him last year, he looked like Christian McCaffrey again. He got the ball a ton.

He was productive and he gets hurt and we don't see him for the rest of the year. And so understanding that, yes, there is injury risk baked in. And I think that's why he's going late first round now, early second in some drafts. Remembering that, you know, the workhorse back is sort of an endangered species, but he is one of the ones that still exist in this league. Is there any doubt about if he was healthy?

Because to me, he's 101 again or 102. If he just told me he plays 17 games this year, to me he's 101 or 102. Yeah, I agree. You still get those folks that don't want to fill that burn, though. Like a lot of fantasy rosters crumbled because he went off the board one. Take advantage.

Like Marcus is there. I had one or two rosters last year where I was just sitting around waiting and yeah, I was trying to piece it together and it wasn't fun, but like when he was there, it was everything I wanted it to be. But this guy's averaging like two different injuries per season at this point. The most interesting

fantasy career ever, I think. Because like there's like three or four years where if you didn't have CMC, it was like good luck winning your league. And then like three years where if you had him, it was like, yeah, it's over for you. This feels like maybe the one last great year for his. Yeah, he still plays for a coach that literally forced him the ball

seven times in a goal to go situation. Trying to get him against a down. Absolutely meaningless meant nothing. All right,

Laquan, you are up with what is now the 11th pick. Now, this might surprise these two over here, but I'm going to go Brian Thomas Jr.

Now, I talk to me O'Brien lately on my last pod that I had over there on FTN Fantasy where we were talking about the function, the identity of this

Jaguar's offense, and it's Brian Thomas Jr. They are going to feed him the ball. The volume's going to be there for him. And I understand that, like, folks are like, well, me as the Trevor Midlands hater here, but I do think that it's going to come down to, like, Trevor Midlands needs to step up and get rid of the mid in the middle name and be able to get the ball to Brian Thomas Jr. So I'm

hoping that this target share is in that 25% range, okay? But Trevor Midlaunch, get on track, buddy. We need these faintest. Can you get a 25% target share with Travis Hunter, O'Brien, which he was speaking about, was like, he needs to be looked at as a situational player. Like, he's going to be in certain packages. He's not in the 12 personnel packages right now. So he's going to be placed in certain areas on the field where

this play he's going to be relevant. Or there's going to be one week where, like, hey, we need them on the corners because we're banged up in the secondary. Okay. Like, you, I don't know if you've done a lot of shows with Patrick before, Lequan, because making up a nickname calling

Trevor Lawrence Mid is fighting. But that's, the outcomes have been mid. But I mean, Lequam was talking up like Malik neighbors with hypothetical multiple quarterbacks. It's like, I think like he's not, there's still confidence in BTJ with Trev because, you know, Lequan doesn't think too highly of Trump. I think the circumstances in Jacksonville have been more of an issue. Urban Meyer was run around, you know.

Kicking play. Yeah. Kicking people. Having a good time. That was a red shirt year as far as a blur. That went sideways. The second edition. Doug Peterson

exclusively feeling like running mesh 27 times the game like that. I think Trevor Lawrence will be fine but the future will dictate how people

I'm a little worried and Brian Thomas Jr. was my guy in the draft and fantasy last year or two and it it all worked out amazing. I am a little worried

about like the heights that he's being drafted among the best receivers in football when there are a couple issues okay Travis Hunter might be

be situational for now if by week five he might it's not crazy to imagine him being the best receiver on the team I'm I do like I love what I've seen out of Trevor Lawrence so far in the preseason by the way I just think his mind is moving a little faster so I'm buying in on Liam Cohen and I don't like that like every single day I hear how brian thomas June is dropping passes at practice I'm not like panicked about it but I'm just hearing about it and then I see it in the preseason that happened again I'm just like uh I mean makeup is what you will his most productive games last year with Mac Jones.

Hey. I mean, that's weird. You can, I truly don't know what it means, but it is a fact that his most productive

games were with Mac Jones. Okay, so that gets to my pick and why I would take, I was thinking about taking Nico Collins last time around and now I'm taking him here. And I'm just taking the guys that I love.

Sometimes you get so wrapped up in the fantasy of it all, just like, who's the best player? I just feel more confident that a Nico Collins at this point is a better football player

than a Brian Thomas Jr. and maybe even a Malik neighbors. I don't know that's how fantasy works, but I've just seen it. To me, he is a top five dude, like as just at the position and he's got CJ Stroud.

I think of the offense in general is just going to be a lot more competent. And if we're talking about like target shares and everything, it's a pretty steep drop from Nico Collins to either Christian Kirk or Dolman. Whoever is number two. Higgins, man, the clone man.

There's no question who the one is in Houston. Right. Higgins is his backup, though. Like, to me, Higgins is not. not draftable in fantasy leagues because he literally is playing Nico Collins's position. Like Xavier Hutchinson is going to get more snaps, I think, than Jaden Higgins, at least to start the year.

The Iowa State guys there or just purely like, okay, if Christian Kirk gets hurt, Jay Leno, you're up. Yeah. And if Rico gets hurt. But that's an easier path, right? Or just that, like, eventually he passes Kirk, whereas, like, no one's displaced. No, no, no. I just uncovered a deep sliver on Jalen Noel.

I mean, if he has that easy pass to be in that slot position, I think maybe he's worth a watchless ad. Yeah, there's more, there's more. clarity on down the roster, and I think that's why the METI trade was easy for Kasserio and company to do, because the talent at wide receiver that they brought in

kind of makes them super deep. And I got sniped by Greg. Oh, good. Because I thought it was great. Sniper. Opportunity to take a really good wide receiver, one of the best. So I'm going to go back to the guy I almost picked last time, and I'm just going to add depth and my flex is solved. I'll take Ashton Genti.

Nice. I did see Pete kind of loading him up with carries over the course of preseason week two, the explosive run where he crushed Diomador. Diomito Lenore agrees with you. He's probably going to have to watch that one for a while, you know, him welcoming in a player to the NFL on the other side of things.

But they're going to be explosive. I saw Gino throw that first ball to Brock Bowers on the very first play. We needed. This is it. I'm in on the Raiders' offense. It's going to be fun. And Jentz is going to be a big part of that.

Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. And I think that's right where he's slotted running back wise in this draft. We can talk about things a little more big picture. And we're going to get to these guys. But how do you view that sort of like tier break after, let's say Henry and McCaffrey are like one level? Is Genti in that level with them? Or do you have him further down maybe with the next group of guys? So for me, I have Bejohn's sake, one in Gibbs as their own tier.

and then I have Genty in there with Henry with CMC I have Devon A-chan in that group guys that I think could be the RB1 overall but their pads are a little less clear than like a Gibbs or Bejohn

who obviously are going top two You want to take HN right now just to give it go? Just for the conversation? I legitimately thought that's what you were going to do in this. I mean I could I would be the running back

I would take but there's a receiver that using your Nico Collins logic. Like, I don't think he should be on the board at all here. And I think for fantasy and real life, he's better than some of the people that win, AJ Brown.

Yeah. Like, I think AJ Brown is super underrated. And last year, the Eagles had the run heaviest offense, not just in the league, like in years. And AJ Brown's full season pace was still 1,400 yards.

Like, it's just so funneled through him. And I think Philly has to throw the ball more. Love that pick. I think he's so underrated for fantasy. Depends where you're looking. Like some places have him as, like a top 8 to 10 wide receiver or even higher. Like we're taking them.

And I think that makes sense. But we had on in the house, my son Walker, he's 10. He's entering like year three or four of fantasy. I think four. And he's very into it now. So, you know, not to pump up a competitor, but the ESPN fantasy guys, they do a good job with that live draft that they do on. And we're screaming at the television.

I think they got into maybe the fourth round, definitely deep third. And AJ Brown is still sitting there. Wow. And to me, I'm taking him in my draft very likely in the second round. Like, if I have a pick somewhere between like 14 and 20 or 16 and 22, like I'm taking. I think he should be a first. I'll take him in round two.

I think he should be where he was last year, which was like a first second turn type of guy. Well, and the thing you guys talk about with Sequin, I think one of the, I guess, mild concerns about him is that last year, no team threw the ball fewer times than the Eagles. And I am hard pressed to think that happens again. Look, I don't, they're not going to suddenly turn around and start throwing it 40 times a game, but I do think you're going to see Jalen Hertz throw it a little bit more, and I think A.J. Brown becomes a beneficiary. I do think, like, at a higher rate, like you would want them to throw to ball more, but A.J. Brown has proven to be one of the most efficient wide receivers out there.

Because when J.L.Hartz takes that deep ball, it's accurate. It's there, and it's going to A.J. Brown. So I do like, you know, that when A.J. Brown slips. Like, I may think, though, there's another wide receiver I may think of instead of A. And that's Drake London. Like, those two are, like, smack. dab next to me if you want to make that's disrespectful. Oh my God.

Just based on Viom, we saw Michael Pinnock in those three games with Drake London. It was incredible yardage. And like even with Kirk Cudson there, like he kind of was capping Drake London's full potential. Like you saw the yards per reception literally jumped from 11 yards to 16th to 17 heights. Like that's where you're going to see Drake London

get a lot more yards. I love what Marcus said too about the Eagles offense. I think if you read between the lines of this offseason, I think, think the idea is to throw the ball more that that we this is what we need to work on is what we've been working on all offseason I think they I think Devante and AJ tamped down some of their personal you know not selfishness but like their desire for numbers and and pass and the the organization is very aware of that and I think they know they need to be a little more bound so I'm totally

with you I think they're going to throw the ball more all right let's do one more pick with Marcus and then we'll take a quick break um all right i we're talking about wide receivers and and i keep i keep looking at the sheet making sure that i'm not missing something how's i'm on ross st brown still here yeah that's that's where i'm going i'm taking i'm on ross st brown at this point um you know i i guess there's concern because ben johnson's not there anymore um but i'm on ross still good and he's still going to get a ton of targets um i'm i'm i'm taking a cautioning people by the way case people don't know the offensive coordinator is john morton not to be confused with former USC

and Detroit Lions wide receiver Johnny Morton they are two very different people just in case you thought that the former receiver got into coaching that is not the case but everybody's like what's going to happen with John Morton running the show and not Ben Johnson like he knows who his good players are

like he's going to figure out how to get the ball to Amman Ra and to Jamir Gil like we're not scared to taking Jamir Gibbs in the top three picks right on Ra guy you know right so like why are we going to stop worshipping Stop worshipping the sun god in fantasy. Like, why are we doing this?

So I really was surprised that he hung on this. Also, Dan Campbell is an offensive-minded head coach. He's been there since day one with him. And Jared Goff has as well. And, like, he's not, that's where he wins. It's the aesthetics. He doesn't get the credit as an offensive-minded head coach because he's too big and strong

and talks to a white-in-kamp. But you have to have, like, a lab coat on with beakers. Well, you got to, you know, you wear glasses. He has the aesthetics of a D-coordinator. Glasses and Jordan's. to practice, you know? That's how you do it. It is one of my favorite, like, dumb under the radar storylines this year is how annoyed

Dan Campbell is in general of the narrative that they're going to be worse with Ben Johns. Like, I think everyone with the Lions is just sick of hearing like, oh, Ben Johnson, this, Ben Johnson, that. And especially from the coaching staff side of the thing, you can kind of tell when you hear Dan Campbell talk that he's like, I'm here, bro. This guy's gotten way too much credit. All right, let's take a quick break. We've gone around the table.

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of last year's fantasy graph. So it's a little delayed, but we are going to declare a champion now. Well, it's not the results, but it's the teams, and we could do some just kind of eyeballing that a little bit. Let's just, let's see the graphic. And yes, everyone,

subscribe, watch on YouTube. You can see it as well. Team Marcus smartly led the way with Jane Daniels. Had a Jamar Chase in the mix. I like that team. Yeah, but the Christian McCaffrey canceled. Yeah. Yeah, that might be a team killer. Let's go on to the next team.

My team went with Josh Allen, Sequin. Man, I took... I think that's the winner. Jefferson, AJ Brown, Pooka, and Halton Kincaid. A couple of weak spots there, but that's looking good. Team Claibon, Lamar, Jean, Gibbs,

Tyreek, Cup. who revante and Pitts, I think my team still better and then finally team Florio I took Anthony Richardson

Reese Hall Isaiah Pacheco I'm not even going to read the rest of them because that team stinks The last four are good Pachico got her Amon Ra, C.D.

McBride Harrison Jr., not good. I'm gonna go ahead and do it I'm declaring myself the champion. I think that's fair honest. I think that's fair.

Let's go. Unfortunately, that didn't happen in my actual league. Had Sequin Barclos, lost in the first round with Saquan Barclay, just means you weren't doing a good enough job. All right, LaQuan, you're up, and this is the 16th pick. And Patrick is ambitious. He says we can get through 50 still.

I don't think so. I don't know about that, but I'm going with the guy that I spoke about before, Drake London. I have high expectations for him and this offense over there in Atlanta, and Zach Robinson wants to get this offense to be a little bit more going downfield aggressive. So those yards, those touchdowns are all going to increased this year, where I think that Drake London can definitely crack that

top five. He is one of my dark horses. I don't, you know, it's funny because I was saying him versus AJ Brown that's disrespectful. First of all, looking at the ADP, he literally is going ahead of AJ Brown, so it's not a crazy take. Secondly, I do think his numbers would have been on another planet, and he

really is that dude. And unlike AJ Brown, he won't have as much competition, I think, for reception. So that makes total sense. When I'm thinking about this draft, I'm thinking about like, all right, Who do I want to kind of plant some flags on to take higher than maybe ADP is? And Chase Brown is really high on that list for me. And so once again, it looks like I've sniped Patrick.

Load up the running backs. I just, he's everything you want out of a fantasy running back in terms of the offense, his ability to stay on the field, his ability to catch passes. He passes the eye test. He's gotten a little better each year of his career. And it just couldn't be a better situation for him. Yeah, it's so useful, especially the past. game around the goal because a lot of folks think oh you know you got to have a sledgehammer

to get touchdowns no like they the way they utilize them in the red zone makes it even more even more clear i mean you know you're giving the ball in the in the goal line too like in the biggest of spots a lot of times it's the third down backs it's the james whites of the world breaking tackles still should have a super bowl MVP yeah all right you're out patrick then i will get some positional value here uh and take brock bowers because he's the wire super one of the of the of the Las Vegas Raiders, and I get them at a tight-in spot where I feel there's going to be a gulf, and I think there's going to be a gulf for years where Brock Bowers will be in a tier of his own, and I feel confident here, and I can get a wide receiver somewhere else.

I'm thinking that Brock Bowers might be a little inflated right now. There's going to be situational targets that we're going to be looking at last season, where I think the identity of this Raiders offense is Achen Genti. That's why we're seeing him not being used out wide in the last preseason game. He was strictly in the tight position as a tight end. So I think there's other passing options there as well that we may be sleeping on. Yeah. Jack Bash, he's a physical wife.

No, man. You lost me here. I'm not doing that yet. They gave a lot of run the Jack Best last. They did. And they have one of the more aggressive quarterbacks in the NFL who makes a lot of downfield targets. Big Geno.

Thornton. A little sleepy speeder out there. And I think right, Trey Tucker stretches. field. Of course, he gets a few targets. The most targets on this team, I feel very confident are going to go to A&9. I was sold on Brock Bowers fantasy this year when Gino had the quote in training camp where he said, like, I just feel bad on the throws I don't throw it to Brock Bowler. He literally says, like, I feel like I should throw it to him every single snap. I do think mid-second round for a tight end, maybe that's, maybe I'm just old school.

but um that's what i don't like it's just hard for me it's expensive it's hard for me to get over that which i shouldn't i shouldn't be like that i remember kelsey was up there a couple years ago it's like it never feels good to me every every few years we cycle through that tie because it was it was gronk for a while then it was kelsey and now bowers is that we sort of did it was sam lapporta but it wasn't quite as bad because you only had one year of you only got to play one and so that that's that's hard for me when i i maybe disagree where i don't think it's a huge gap between him mcbride and kiddo. But those guys all deserve to go in the top 40 or whatever. The more

I think it makes sense. When you only need one, I'm like, but we don't have any rules here. We're just taking talent. Completely lawless society. We're trying to mirror the country as a whole. Florio, you're up. I'll go with who I brought up last time. I'll go with Devon A. Chan, who is my R.B4. As a rookie, he averaged almost eight yards per carry. And then last

year, he had the most points as a receiver amongst all backs. And I don't think. a whole lot changes for Miami. Like I think they want to it to get rid of the ball as quickly as possible and that is dumping it off to A. Chan and he's the only

dolphin I want this year. Is there anyone else with me on kind of the anti-A-chan brigade, at least for fantasy? I was. I was that guy last year. I'm coming around though. He got it done in the end, but...

Yeah. My only worry is if things go bad and they fire Mike McDaniel in the midpoint of the year, like how much does that change things? Because that feels like it's very much on the table. He seems to me like the flip side of what we were talking about with A.J. Brown,

whereas, like, I can't put him in this tier of players that are getting drafted around him as an actual player. Like, and so I just feel better about the types of quarterbacks even that it would be taken here. The wide receivers. I just, there's something about him I don't totally. He seems more of a fantasy football creation than reality. I mean, he's a very good player. But more like a fourth, fifth round running back to me that's getting pushed

up a little bit because of the situation. And it feels like a fantasy creation until he speed shifts to the slot, right? And runs like a... Totally fair. Like a 20-yard dig that we don't see running backs run.

What's that? I think part of it is like you look at Genti, you look at Henry, you're like, yeah, these guys 300 touches easily. Then you see Devon A-chan and it's like, you play the same position? Yeah, the team is weird. But for context, he's going as high as like RB7 average draft position early second round.

So Florio actually in that context got a value here. And it's hardly a crazy pick. I think I'm on an island just a little wary of him. Marcus, you're up. Since we're not following rules or anything like that. Take who you like. I'm taking a Lamar Jackson here. Ooh.

I want to take. Yeah, I knew I knew that was going to. I like all the good players. My team was going to be so good. That was, I just going to sting Patrick's soul is what that was going to do. But, I mean, I'm looking at the guy. And like, look, I'm in a real fantasy draft. I'm probably not taking Lamar at this spot.

But if we're just talking about, like, who's really good and who's going to score you a lot of fantasy points, you know, Lamar. I don't really know what it says it. But Lamar Jackson is good at football. He's all right. Well, and the gap, like, he really has been an incredible fantasy advantage. It's not the old, you know, I guess you can get good quarterbacks throughout the job. draft. But if you've owned Hertz and Lamar last year and Josh Allen, like those guys have been league winners and tell me if you guys disagree. You guys are more in on the fantasy. But they've

occupied an interesting space. Whereas I think if you just like took, you didn't even have to take them early. You just took them where their like ADP was the last couple of years. And they were kind of like league winners for that. So overall, they've been a little undervalued, I would say, because there really has been a gap between those top guys and the rest of the quarterback. No, I agree. And they're difference makers. When you got a guy that you could start and forget, and they're putting up 25, 30 points every single week.

I mean, hey, I'll spend that third round on a Jaden Daniels or, like, Mar Jackson. So I do think that we don't want to get into that realm, where we want to inflate these guys, like the Jaden Daniels sort of world, into that, you know, second round, first round tier. So I do feel like the value where they're at now, it's a little undervalue, but I feel a lot better in the third and fourth round getting those guys. Yeah, I, like, there's a,

a pretty big difference between that. Like, it sounds good that I'm just going to wait and I'll take Tua and whatever. And suddenly it's like week 13 and you're like streaming back up that you're going against. I was about to say, start that's saying I'll take Tua. That's, yeah, you're going south. All right.

You're up, Leco. So I'm going to go with Josh Jacobs. Now, he's not the sexy big, the most like, oh, magical great free tier type of athlete. But no, he's a workhorse. Like, he was one of the five running backs last season that had 40% of their team touches. There's nobody back there that I believe is going to take away those opportunities in the Red Zone. The Packers were a top five rushing attack that goes under the radar. And I think Josh Jacobs,

he's proven to us that he can put up those big numbers that we like with Derek Henry and Saquanne Barclay on Sundays. So I think, you know, when Emmanuel Wilson, he's an electric change of pace back, but Marshaun Lloyd, he can't stay healthy. I mean, like, his per injury per touch has to be insane greatly at this point. Injury per touch. Like seriously, like I'm like, man, we're ruined for the guy. Marcus, I know that's your guy, man. Look, I mean, he went to SC for a year. I want, I want the best for him to have success, but you can't get around

the fact that he can't stay on the field. Leads the league and injuries per touch. I mean, did we just make a stat? I think that the 21st pick, too, which is where we're at, I do, we should be resetting every once in a while. It's totally fair value for Josh Jacobs, but you're right. I wouldn't be excited about it.

I probably wouldn't do it because I, I guess I still like the level of receivers here more now than the running backs personally now that Chase Brown Chase Brown would kind of be the last of my my like feels like they could be a first round value type of running back and that's why I'm taking Ladd McConkey because I still think Ladd could be a first round type of value I'm taking ceiling guys and he's maybe the last of these guys that would it be that crazy if he was wide receiver three at the end of the year I don't we don't think so on the podcast of yeah okay

then like on different sides this is the lad side of the table yeah Florio and Marcus are on the last side I'm glad to be

on the lad side I'm glad to be on the lad side I'm off the ship because I think it's like you're on an island over there they're gonna run the ball a ton and this is the identity

of the charges that they show in this last season they want to pound the rock I think that the passive volume comes down when you add into Keaton Allen who's very familiar with Justin Herbert

like do we think Kenan Allen's just gonna come in and be some slouch no yes I do No, no way. I think Keenan Allen's coming in. He's going to be a clear plug and play and a familiarity that Herbert will have.

Like, I think the target share needs to be coming down in projections when it comes to Latt and already low pass-value offense. Like, they're going to one to run the rock and control the ball. That second half, they're going to run the pitt out of that ball, man. And if it's going to be Hampton, Baddell,

Nodgy, whenever he's back up, there's going to be times where LAD is going to be like, oh, well, Lads out there, is he getting the targets? I hear that. And they're in a better position to do it now with Hampton. And I'm sure we'll get to him. And if we don't, we should. I mean, he's like such an exciting, like, fantasy option.

But I was out, you know, I was watching that preseason game. And I was thinking, man, it's a, I think he's still going to have that share because it's a pretty steep drop to Quentin Johnston. And I like these two rookies. They have, Keandre Lambert Smith's look pretty good. Trey Harris is playing. It's like, I don't know if they, those are, they got Lad who, if he's paying a little bit of a, I got taken in the second round

tax. If he was that 12th pick in the draft, I think we'd look at him a little more like, just like Drake London, because that's what he, he doesn't play like Drake London, but his production and his versatility and everything was first round level. And then I think you look at the rest of the team, and to me it's a bunch of threes and fours, and he's like

a one. So actually, I do disagree with you there. I think it's a big drop off. Alone on this island. Yeah, the Greg Roman offense isn't ever going to support a whole bunch of wide receivers. But there's the one. and Lad's the one. It's clear as day.

I didn't like I see like Keenan Allen's in the slot and Lads outside and then they're switching them around but I guess Keenan Allen has something to show me because he wasn't the same guy a year ago but he'll come in and get like five, six hundred yards. I wouldn't draft. All right, Patrick, you're up. Yeah, last year I destroyed my team

by taking a bunch of aging lodger receivers. I'm not going to do that now. You guys have allowed Drake London to get to me in this spot as a noted supporter of... Oh, no, he's gone. Oh, who took, oh. Yeah, Lecois drink. Yeah, boy, Drake London.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. You know, you know, that nice little preamble, too. Yeah, the preamble. So good. All right, take. Now you're going to take like Devante. Yeah.

I was going to say, you could, they're aging. Everything I said in the preamble and apply it to what I am doing here. This happens in drafts over the weekend where the guy's in the back getting another drink and he misses and he goes, oh, I want that guy. Like, no, this is normal activity that happens in these fantasy drafts. I, I am, I am a believer, and I will stick on this and have it. And we can run the audio when we do our fantasy draft,

God willing next year Tyreek Hill I will take Tyree Hill at this point still an exceedingly exposed receiver I know that the idea that he's trying harder

this year I think he's gonna be healthier this year I think there was a reason for the little bit of decline last year I'm in

I'm with you and I don't would normally want to take those aging guys I don't know what I don't know if the trying harder thing is a narrative

when he says he's trying yeah no he says it because it's a narrative he would like to put that out there, that no, like, I wasn't hurt. I'm indestructible and it was just purely my effort. And now, like, Krillen has died and I can go super sand. I'm trying extra hard is what makes things go.

I'm not usually into the contract year thing of it all, but I think I'm going to make an exception for the Tyree kill. I think Tyree killed knowing there's one big contract left in his career is not a bad thing. And you're going back to the well, by the way. I like doing this. If you have kind of a, you took Tyreek last year. our producers, let us know. Yeah.

And I actually think it is good to, if you have one that did not live up to the value, take them again the next year. Like average cost value or whatever. It's like a guy who fumbles, right? You get them back in there, give him the ball again, just to let him know you still believe.

It won't happen again. He's a Hall of Famer. You're not going to happen again. All right, Florio, you're up. I'll go with the, my, so Brock Bowers win, but my tight end one in my rankings is Trey McBride.

So I will take Trey McBride, who actually averaged more points per game than Brock Bowers last year. He just missed the game due to, I believe it was concussions. And he was the most targeted target share-wise, tight end in the red zone.

And he had two touchdowns. Like, eventually, that's got to become more like six to eight, right? Like, so I think if he has positive touchdown regression, he can, he could one be the tight end one and two, he could return wide receiver one value at a weaker position.

He was your tight end last year, by the way. Yeah. Good job by you there. Yeah. Funny your team. My quarterback didn't work out, but that was literally the best tight in value you could find. That worked out for sure. My only pushback is I think the touchdown still remain low because Drew Petting is the offensive coordinator going through third year and it's like there's

nothing that they did this offseason that showed they change. It just naturally can't stay. The only thing that change was Marvin Harris's bicep ratio. They tried to get McBride touchdowns. It just didn't work. They were throwing it to him in the red zone. It just I don't know. He just didn't end in the painted area. Thankfully, the Rams, you know, linebackers weren't able to

cover him and he was able to find the other shout out to them, huh? I, by the way, well, just while we're on the Cardinals, because I don't think Harris, maybe Harrison goes here, but what do you guys think about Harrison? Because by the way, like, I see James Conner getting taken in the fifth, and that's kind of like,

oh, I'm not excited to take James Carter. To me, he is the perfect. I'm not excited to take guy. I like James Conner. He's under the late fourth round pick. What do you guys think about Harrison of this? I think Harrison is a victim of our own hype, right? Like, He was the guy who was super hyped.

He was the can't miss. You know, he's going to crush in Arizona. And it was underwhelming, right? I mean, he had eight touchdowns, which I keep looking at that. I'm like, when did it? I feel like he had any touchdowns. Yeah, like, when did he have eight touchdowns? But I just think because we were so hyped on Marvin Harrison

and he didn't live up to that. Now he's being punished in fantasy drafts because of that. And again, that doesn't do it. Had everything to do with us and our hype train that we left from the station. I do think he could be a lot better with a better quarterback as well. I just don't think Kyler is the quarterback to lift your prototypical X receiver. Outside of DeAndre Hopkins in 2020, he never really had like huge production out of a wide receiver board.

And he's going to like early third round wide receiver 16, 17. That feels about right. I don't have a hot. Just not the one. I'm usually not. I don't have a hot take like plus or minus. That feels about right. I like that the value is a little lower.

All right, Marcus, you still have not gone this. I have not. Marvin Harrison, Jr.? Not going Marvin Harrison, Jr. I thought about maybe taking a certain guy to try to tweak Laquan, but I'm gonna go Jonathan Taylor instead. Oh, that guy you're trying to tweak.

You know who I'm the butt. You know who I was going to pick. But Jonathan Taylor, because I think we all have these concerns about the Colt offense. I think Jonathan Taylor is sort of immune to that, you know, because we know he's going to get the carries. We know he's a guy that doesn't have a ton of competition in that backfield for touches

and is going to win healthy, continue to be really, really productive. And so I feel like he is, he's kind of been collateral damage in all of the concerns that we have about this Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, battle and what it means for the offense.

And so, like, he's still a really talented player who's going to get a lot of volume. So I think I'm fine with him here. He's old school. You're not going to get a lot of receptions, but he's going in the late second round. So for that value,

you did well. And yet I'm not super. I feel a little safer with some of the wide receivers that are still on the board or even the quarterback. That's the general feeling when we talk about the Colts and fantasy. Like, I'm not, I'm not excited. He's got Josh Jacobsy, right? Like, he's good where he's going, but he's not sexy. You don't get fired up.

We have one round left here. And so you guys just take someone that you believe needs to be represented in this draft, someone that you truly believe in. You know, even if they wouldn't be like the safest pick here, take, take who you. want. Now, Mark is on the last spot. I said, scared money don't make money. I need to think of another saying for that. Because you should conman say that? I just said, I just said

the person who says scared money don't make money is running a three-card Monty out in front of a Vegas casino. That's not this. Kenneth Walker needs to go. This is a dark horse RB1. Like, I'm talking RB1 overall. Like, this guy was on pace last season.

Charbonnet. We want Charbonnet to eat, but when Kenneth Walker is healthy on the field, Charminates on the sidelines watching the magic. Now, honestly, the Seahawks these last two weeks in these preseason games have shown us they want to run the ball. At the highest rate, 59% of their plays

were the leading of all teams in the preseason so far. So they want to run the rock. Kenneth Walker is electric in between the tackles outside. It doesn't matter. Get him in open space and I think ClickCubia getting that career high on the ground from Alam Camarra last season. I think

that translates over to Kenneth Walker. It makes a lot of sense. And he doesn't fit the mold of like a Clint Kubiak kind of one cut and go. I still think of, you know, Threll Davis and Clint Kubiak's dad's offense with the Broncos. Like, that's what that running back. And Ken Walker is kind of the opposite. But if they keep blowing open holes, like they have been in the preseason, I mean, he's going to take a run 60 yards that Charbonnet might only take 25. Add in a little stat here, 1.7 rushing yards before contact per rush.

Right now, it's ranked third between the teams and the preseason right now. That means these guys are moving bodies and guys are getting clear lanes and being untouched. If that translate to anything into the regular season, oh boy, Sharkey and Kenneth Walker, we're going to go. Did you think he was going to take Amari and Hampton? No, I think I thought he was going to take a different rookie. Okay. To me, Hampton, Hampton's got that. I don't want to inflate his ADP right now.

What's going to hear it is? What are we doing? RJ Harvey is the name. R.J. Harvey. He's a big RJ Harvey. That's too much. That's too much. That's too good.

That's good. I feel like Hampton, his floor is pretty high and the ceiling's sky high. I love my team. I love stacking Ladd and Hampton together. I know they say they're going to share the carries and all this stuff. And they probably will,

but if we get to week 11, 12, and Hampton is obviously the most talented guy in that backfield. And it just wouldn't surprise me if he's more true workload, Bijon Robinson type of guy as we get later in the season. He's not as talented. I don't think he's going to make people miss like that, but he's a load.

He's great on passing downs. He should be great on the goal line. He's Brock Lesnar. I love him. That's like my pro com. He's Brock Lesnar, he's a freak guy. Tim, Brock Lesnar doing shooting star press off the top road. That's Amari and Hampton.

He's able to jump over folks, run through them. Like, that's really how I look at Hampton. I love that. My pick is running through a contract discussion right now. And I think that's fraudulent. I think the commander's got a little cute with managing.

Pay them, they paid him. They should have paid him before, but I think they thought they had a rookie quarterback and they weren't going to have to deal with that. None of that matters for the circumstances of fantasy. I think I love getting Terry in this spot and he's going to be the wide receiver one. He's going to score touchdowns.

He's got 12 last year for a rookie. I'm not chart and regression on that. So here's my theory. And it's not a fan. theory. And I want to get your opinion on this because I feel like if you are a team that has a decent track record of success and developing players, right, that maybe you can play a little bit more hardball. I feel like when you're the commanders and you got your first little taste of success, like it feels a little more disrespectful to be like, no, we got to, we have to roster,

but we have to budget watching. It feels like you finally got something and you've brought hope back to your fan base. Like, you got to keep that going right now. Also the dropout. I mean, they need him. Debo is a nice role player to add. I don't think that's being disrespectful. He's not a traditional wide receiver. The next best traditional wide receiver on this team is... Michael Gallup?

It, no. Not to be disrespectful. That's the point, though. That's the point, though. Like, who? Noah Brown. It's probably Noah Brown. Oh, big jersey. I got to represent my guy.

I'll respect. Shout out to Michael Gallup. Let's go. I feel bad about that's a lot, like, oh, the photon cannon.

If we're picking anybody, I know who I know who you're picking here. Can Marcus announce it? Yeah. Trevion Henderson. Let's go. Yeah, that's my guy this year.

I have him as R.B. 13. I, but I want to move him up even more. I've had him ahead of Hampton since before the NFL draft, but most everyone else has Hampton. And I understand why. But I think Henderson was built in a last. to thrive in fantasy because he's shifty and he's explosive.

So he's going to get a lot of big yard run in place, as we saw. He's an elite pass blocker and he's a really good receiver. So he's going to be out there to get those PPR points on a team that's going to run the ball. The only concern I have is goal line. But I think he's better than Stevenson. And like, if Mike Rable agrees and Josh McDaniel agrees, I think Henderson's going to be an RB1 this year. I mean, he's checking all the boxes. He passes.

I hate how good of a preseason. he's having because it's, it's, it's, made him like four-round field. And Stevenson is hurt. Look, I don't think they could trade Stevenson. I just, there's no market, but it's not even crazy. He's an old regime guy. It's not crazy to imagine a world where Remandre is not on this Patriots team. If I had to guess, I think he's on it.

But I think that's like 75, 25. It wouldn't shock me if Stevenson is not on it. So does Gibson come in plays, like a late round stash guy, if that's the case? That was the case. Anderson to the moon, baby. Yeah, I love that. We talk about people getting burned. I don't think anybody's been burned more than people getting burned by Gibson.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that's a wrap. He's a big dude. And it's funny because Remandre did look pretty good last time he was with Josh McDaniel. So I think if he's on this team, he's going to have a role. But it doesn't really diminish my excitement about Trayvian. I think they can both eat.

Yeah. And I think he'd be the more valuable guy. I'm with you. Marcus, finish us up. All right. So this is probably more of a flag plant than it is any like kind of search for value or anything like that, but

who can I guess? Please. Is it a wide receiver? It is. Jameson Williams. Wow. There it is. Can you tell me we talk about these things a lot?

Yeah. James and Williams. Last year he got over 1,000 yards for the first time. He really looked like, you know, he looked like the guy they thought they were drafting, right? Because remember he pretty much missed almost the entirety of his first season. He was dealing with that knee. injury. Then he had the suspension, so he missed time at the beginning of his second season. Last

year, everything was sort of normal. Uh, and he, he had his first big year. My, my Saracha level take, my Goce Jang level take. Um, you have trying to, you know, everybody's had Saracha. Let's go Gochoo Jang. Let's go. Oh, it's so much better. It's so much better. Um, is that he leads the lions in receiving yards this year. Um, maybe that catches. Yeah, that'll still be Amman Rob, but because of their ability to do different things, to have him be the field stretcher, to have him be the guy that just gets out in space and has yards after the catch. I think he has a big yardage year this year. But I'm just, I'm just really excited about grab. Like, I also wouldn't have done this on a real team because I don't think I'd want both Amon Ra and Jameson Williams on the same fantasy

roster. But this was just my way to sort of, you know, stake the claim that I'm really excited about him this year. I agree with all that. I love that. I do love Isaac DeSlaw, though, too. Yeah. Who I do wonder if he's going to get used in contract negotiations, if nothing else, this does not affect fantasy, but they can only pay so many people. And he, he's going to get a big time contract. But if they see Tislaa kind of running down the field doing some of the same things as Jameson, maybe they just don't go big. But that's a real world. We're at side note. Was it the Hall of Fame game? They did the little story about Tisla showing up at the Lions facility, like wearing the custom jersey with his own thing. Like, is that like

wearing the band's t-shirt to a concert? I don't know if you put your name on the back of it but he had it since he was like in middle school though that's pretty cool though. Once I'm Iron Man 2 came out and I went to see it and we were coming home and we went midnight release. It's like 2 a.m. NYPD pulls us over there like

where are you guys coming from? We were like we went to see Iron Man my friend in the front seat had an Iron Man shirt the cop went you wore that to see that movie have a good night and just left us a lot. So kind of yeah I would put that in the same context. I think it's earned I mean the fact that he did that before he got

the job with them, I appreciate it. Yeah, it would be like meeting Axel Rose. And wearing a Guns and Rose's t-shirt with your face on it. The other part, you start singing. You do, it is a little worrisome, like, because at that level, like, you're never actually

going to be friends with, he'll never fully respect you as someone on his level. And so now maybe the Lions have lost like a little bit of respect for Artisla. He's like too much of a fan. You know, you know, Slash, uh, sponsored one of the horses on the Carousel, the L.A. Zoo. I did not know that. I learned

this yesterday. Wow. This is how to end the show. I absolutely love that. Again, check out the NFL fantasy football podcast with Marcus Grant, Mike F. Florio, Lequan Jones now. You're on

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