NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Fifth Annual Marc Sessler Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you the most anticipated piece of draft content each year: Sessler's annual mock draft. We start with picks 1-10 (7:19), and then catch up on Gravedigger's competing mock (22:22). After the break, we look at Marc's 11-20 picks (27:40) before comparing to Gravedigger's (41:29). Then we finish up the dueling mock drafts with picks 21-31 (49:02). We close the show with Sessler's Seven Sports Locks (59:43). Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Live from Hollywood Park, it's the 15th annual Mark Sessler Mock Draft. Your must-have final compendium to the 2023 NFL draft. I'm Justin Graver. You may know me as Grave-Digger. And now here's your host, the old Zusser himself, Dan Hansus. Woo! Wow. Hello and welcome.

Sit out, everyone. Please. Studio audience is just packed. People waiting outside since 4 a.m. To be at the 2003 Mark Sessler mock draft. Yes, the 15th annual. And yes, as you heard in the intro there, my name is Dan Hansen.

and my favorite team employs Aaron Rogers. I am your host, but I am not alone. My co-host for the festivities, to my left, to my left, you know, you know, you. who it is. He is the white magic to my bird. Lord of the blackbird to my magic. Greg Rosenthal everybody. Oh, thank you.

And yeah, that was me cheering you on because I'm not just an analyst today. I'm a fan. This is one of my favorite days of the year. I sit back and I enjoy the show like a fan. I'm the same way. I mean, starting on Thursday, Greg, the center of the universe is Kansas City.

But right now, for all intents and purposes, it is the Chris Wessling podcast studio. And it's all because of one man. And I think it's time to bring him out. He is the man behind the mad genius that is the mock draft. He is the man that spits in the face of the industrial draft complex. Who says, how you do it is wrong. We want three-day work weeks.

Ladies and gentlemen, give a warm welcome to Mark Sessler. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. He's still got it, folks. Handsome, son of again. Look at this crowd. Unbelievable, Mark.

What did the crowd think they were coming to see? They've certainly been duped. Price is Right taping. Yeah, I was going to say, here we are. They were expecting Drew Carey. Instead, they get us. Mark, unbelievable. Where are the nerves right now as we look ahead to another big time Mark Sessler mock draft, the 15th?

I understand the question. But to respond honestly, I feel no nerves because what I've done in my process, I've cracked the code in terms of mock drafts where the effort is minimal. the results are whatever happens happens I will go on the sun will rise the next day so nerves is the opposite

I feel joy about the entire process it was quite an arduous hour and 12 minutes I spent on this last evening hour 12 yeah I went over I actually broke my own rule but I actually went up and got up and made a pot of coffee

in the middle of it all so I guess that brings it closer to an hour and two minutes or so any concern though this year that you're starting to share the stage that you're you're the long-standing host this is your 15th season and you see the up-and-comer right it's been your rodeo for so long you're mike mayock right for 14 years and suddenly daniel jeremiah uh is on the desk next to you you know i think in in a lot of areas of life

you feel that you're being phased out and this is just another that sort of fits seamlessly in uh with other aspects of what's happening here at this company in terms of my place in the company It is. If you watch Succession, sometimes you could feel like a Carl in this world. Absolutely. Give it up for Carl from Success. A guy who knows he had his time in the sun. He did huge things with Cable in the 90s. But now it is time for someone else to move.

And only what you're saying is, no, I got more to give. Yes. And you're going to try to fight back against. Let's bring him in right now. Gravedigger. Justin, we're going to bring in later in terms of getting into your pick. but I understand, based on the energy around the show, heading into it today, that this means a lot to you.

It does mean a lot to me. I think, as you put it on Monday's show, it's a big opportunity for me to get my mock draft out there to the people. And I have a lot of pressure. I put a lot of pressure myself to do well with that. You know, I really want to beat Mark, so that's what it is. Wow, he's putting it out there. He's speaking it into existence.

The nervous energy coming from Gravedigger before the show started, before that introductory. It made me feel alive. Yeah. Like we've done 1,300 shows. It made me feel alive. I love it. I can't wait.

I was 10 feet underground before I saw Justin. Well, I can't wait until Thursday night as we're going through all these picks live on our live stream, on YouTube, seeing the emotions between Justin and Mark. So this is like the first part of it, and then we get the entree on Thursday night. Great call. And that's a great plug. Again, Thursday night live.

With the start of the draft, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, we will do a live stream sitting through the entire first round, probably, unless it's going very poorly. And then we may parachute out after about an hour or so. But the plan is to go for all 31. And I think if you're a fan of this podcast, even more reason now to check out the live stream, because we will have real-time reaction to the mock drafts. And last year, Justin, I know you know this. You did very well last year. Do we have any of the data points in terms of last year

and how you guys both did? I'm not sure how Mark did, but I was listening to his mock draft on the way in this morning from last year to get a feel for the show. Wow. And he actually picked Trailerks to the Titans. Okay. I remember it was a big rivalry, him versus Norris last year.

That's right. Norris, who had come off an excellent previous result. Won the whole country. Right. He got waxed personally. And I remember that Traylen Berks might have been one of the only, one of the only players I nailed. The takeaway was Graver was hot,

and he was the best of that little mini-group. Mark did get Trayvon Walker and Aidan Hutchinson at the top, but then he had Sauce Gardner going to the Texan. Same position. I mean, it's close, but not a winner. So here we go. It's time without further ado to get into it. Everybody out there, do you want to get into it?

Well, let's do it. Mark Sessler, the 2003 NFL draft. Let's go through the top of the first round. Go ahead. All right. We have the Carolina Panthers, obviously, at number one. And I'm going Bryce Young. I think we all, at this point, just assume that's what's happening.

It would be somewhat of a stunner if they went in another direction. Would you agree? Actually, I would agree. but I don't know if you guys saw some movement in the desert all of a sudden there's some pop about Will Levis shock in the world at number one overall I don't buy it I just want to say it's out there

I don't know Gregi you know that world more than us why would that be happening right now I no longer know that world I am not a member of the Detroit Lions and I'm gonna stay in play it apparently came from some Reddit post which is crazy but even Levis's odds changing still he was a massive massive underdog even after getting close

closer. And I think, yeah, the world shares your view, Mark, that anything but Bryce Young would be absolutely stunning. I mean, if something else happened there, this mock draft, everyone's mock is done. Yeah, you just light a match to it right away. Presumably, including Justin's, right? I would, I would assume. It's your number one, right? We'll get to Justin's. All right, go ahead. Keep going. Okay, so at number two, the Houston Texans, I know that there's been a lot of talk about them going Tyree Wilson at number two, but we talked about this on the show yesterday. The D'Amico Ryans is an Alabama product. You've got Will Anderson Jr. and Edge, who is a generational hammer-dropping talent

that you can build an entire defense around. I think there's a lot of connective tissue between Demico Ryans and what he can do with Will Anderson. I think they're going to go defense here. This could be quarterback, but there's just been, it started with our guy, Lance Zeiling. There's so much heat around it being a defender that I'm swinging the fences with Will Anderson here. I think that's, so the Texans stay home.

And I would say in mock draft universe, the idea of trading, and I don't know if that's going to be coming later at some point, it adds to the stress level, right? Because if you miss on a very specific prediction, the whole thing goes up in flames. And I specialize at that. If for some reason, though, Will Anderson went third to the Texans, we will give it to you. If you get the right team. I think for both of us, if they trade it out. Right. I think for this contest, if you get team and player match, you get it.

You're good. All right. Go ahead at number three. So we do have a trade at number three. It's long talked about. Yep. Holy God. Well, and the...

Count down, everyone. Calm down. Zero reaction from the audience to these turn of events. The Cardinals, you know, they're in Rebuild Node. They trade the pick to the Tennessee Titans. Oh. And the Titans are not coming up here to get a, you know, a swing tackle. They're going Will Levin.

quarterback out of Kentucky I get a bit of an upset you could go Anthony Richardson there but I think they've fallen in love with Will Levis behind the scenes and this will trigger at the end of this production I have seven what I'm calling seven sports locks and we'll get to part B

of this then but so at this point it's going to be Will Levis to the Tennessee Titans not just there's some football in there but we span the whole world of sports that's excellent that's gutsy that's the type of thing you've been known for over the last 14 years and now 15 years. I have the, I'm curious if this plays into my sandwich prop now. If Will Levis ends up

on this team, it really, you would think Ryan Tano could be on the move this weekend. You could connect those dots. They could recoup a draft pick this year instead of next. It might be one of those sports locks in that world. We'll see. But you're right. But you're right. I think that would A would lead to B. And you could see that happening even if they were trading up to six or eight. And like I said, I think we'll give you credit. If you somehow nail a That's good enough. I mean, it's gutsy as hell. And I'm on board with, we haven't seen everything that the Tennessee Titans are doing yet

because I think they're going into a rebuild and starting over with Levis. I'd respect it. Yeah. I'd respect it. All right, number four. All right, the Indianapolis cults, they need a quarterback, too. They're not going to rest on that front. They're going Anthony Richardson.

I love the idea. If you just think where we were with Jalen Hertz two years ago, I know there's concerns about Richardson's accuracy. It's like historically an outlier. Yet this is a player with incredible potential, athletic freakishness that I think Shane Steichen is the right coach at the right time to build a quarterback for the Colts. They haven't had a draft pick this high since they picked Andrew Luck.

And before that, it was not as high as Peyton since Peyton Manning. So you go quarterback, you don't mess around here. You get the most talented guy left on the board at quarterback. Well, here's the thing. Makes sense. What did Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck have in common entering the league? They were the sons of pro football quarterbacks. What else did they have in common?

Big time experience at the college level. Yes. And also they were seen as generational. Generational. Big foreheads. Big foreheads. Generational talents. They were seen as can't miss slam dunk picks.

Yeah. And Richardson is not that. Richardson is very much. I mean, when I saw a rhodo world blurb headline today, NFC coordinator colon Richardson's accuracy so scary and I was like wow this guy can put it on the money too click into it they were saying how a short game is so terrible that his big arm and all the other stuff some teams might be scared by that element now you could obviously as you mature as a player look at Josh Allen as an example clean up that element of your game then the sky's the limit but it is a pick

that would come with some risk but obviously and Greg we know where you stand on this your love a lot of reward for the courts. Yeah, I think the accuracy stuff is overstated because he's pretty accurate 10 yards on and they asked him to do that so much. That weirdly, yeah, the short game, that's a problem. He's got to work on that.

But it's been very quiet on the Colts Richardson front. A lot more Colts-Levis talk. It would be fascinating if the Colts are on the board here and have a choice of either Stroud or Richardson. Three out of four QB so far. Yeah, which I think that'll happen, but there could be a muddled mess here in terms of it, Levis being the flipped to number four there.

I played with that for roughly four and a half minutes last night when I did this. Very good. That's an extended amount of time for you. Yes, it is. Were you worried about drinking the coffee midway? Because you said it was after midnight to us before the show. Then the coffee kind of kicks in and you're done because you had that hour limit. And he's not sleeping anyway.

Right. It wasn't even like I woke up at the minute. I just was up at 1230 and decided it's time to get going on this. All right. Number five. Number five. I think this just makes sense to me. I think this is one of Greg's sandwich props to.

Jalen Carter to the Seattle Seahawks. I think it's a cultural fit. If the guy needs... Culture fit. Well, if you go to the wrong team, maybe Jalen Carter, we don't know what's going on. There's some concern about his effort on the field and there's the off-of-the-field stuff.

I like the idea for Pete Carroll and Jalen Carter, and you really change that defensive front. Hey, Grave-Digger, is culture fit on our bingo board that we'll be using on Thursday for the live stream for tropes of draft. I will make a note to add it because I didn't have it, but it's great.

Isn't that part of my role to include some of that jargon. Well, you're part of it. Yeah. You are part of the machine. Even if you're kind of an outlier and for some people a menace, you're part of it.

Yeah. You're just kind of, what's the Star Wars thing? You're the big, the rebellion. Okay. You're Han Solo. Okay. You're Spock. You're solo.

I think the crowd is telling you the response to that parallel. blind guy from reading Rainbow. You got the whole crew. LaVarverton. Should we press on here? He always saw himself as a Harrison Ford mark. So I think that works.

I could see him wearing a brown vest in about six months. Absolute fiction. Go ahead. Number six. Detroit Lions. Tyree Wilson goes here. And you compare them with Aiden Hutchinson. Aaron Glenn has a lot going on on that defense.

And they needed help. And I think Edge fits for them. I think that's a good situation. I could see you also drive in the planes. later in life maybe I mean hopefully more safely you're flying the planes just saying yeah

so in this reality and there's logic obviously the Seattle Seahawks coming off a double digit win season and a playoff berth and the Lions coming off a double digit win season they win season they win 10? Seahawks only

one nine okay but a playoff season and the Lions obviously everything happened great they each had nine wins the type of Breaker was that regular season, Gino 45 point bomby drops. Both these teams, both these teams pass on the opportunity to bring in a quarterback given coming off a big year or a successful season. I have an issue with both those teams passing on what seems like a unique opportunity. Yeah, I think Seattle certainly is comfortable with Gino Smith, obviously,

and what they have for them for a number of years. It would have been a good place to develop like in Anthony Richardson. But CJ Stroud continues to drop here. I think that's notable. I'm noting it. I'm clocking it. Number seven. Another team not going quarterback.

The Raiders go cornerback, Devin Witherspoon, out of Illinois. A lot of buzz there, physical player. They've been talked about, they've been linked to a cornerback, and I think that, you know, a lot of people think Witherspoon's the best guy. He had the best, one of the best seasons ever graded by PFF last year in college. I feel like cornerback is so unpredictable. But then again, you look at last year and Sass Gardner, you see what kind of impact that good of a cornerback can make.

And Witherspoon, to me, seems like, I know there's an argument between him and Gonzalez, but it feels like the NFL, there's more teams that like Witherspoon. Yeah, it does seem like when there's a big-time edge player and a big-time cornerback, it's the edge player that ends up going ahead. Look at Trayvon Walker last year as an example. But you're seeing it this year, even in your own mock draft here with Will Anderson, Jalen Carter. And yet, like Greg said, if you get a cornerback, hits the ground running, and they can straight out of college, changes your defense.

And they've tried to do this, and they've missed a number of times. I feel like they've been adding guys in their secondary forever, and it never works. So I'm dubious, but it's a different brain trust. How about number eight? All right. My guy, Tyler Algier, is not going to be thrilled with what I did here. Oh, no. No, he didn't.

Yes, he did, because I'm going Bijan Robinson to the Atlanta Falcons. I think this is the offense they want to be. It's a huge help to Desmond Ritter. I kind of am starting to believe that they want Desmond Ritter to be the guy. And they're going to pass on CJ Stroud here too, but I think B. John Robinson

is going to go higher than people think. I can't believe I'm seeing them down at 19 and 20 in some people's mocks. One of my canceled out sandwich props because it seemed too safe was Falcons take the first offensive weapon in the draft. And so that would be either Bijon Robinson

or a wide receiver or maybe even a tight end. but that felt too vague. I like them doing it. Can we do this? Can we bring in Bejan Robinson? Oh, you caught down Falcons fans. 283 was eight years ago.

Greg, that is untoward. Well, they're booing me. This is a classy program here. I love it, Bejan Robinson. And then Arthur Smith, go get Ryan Tannahill. And then can we actually have a real team that you could look at as. a contender in the NFC,

because I would feel that good about the Falcons. I'm with you 100%. Let's go. The Falcons fans like you. Makes sense. That's not a shot against Desmond Ritter, but they're making a lot of moves this offseason, like they're ready to go.

Yeah. It's year three. I mean, you have to turn this thing around by year three. Does it mean you're quitting on Desmond Ritter if you bring in 36-year-old Ryan Tannel? I don't think so. No. Number nine.

Right, number nine. Chicago Bears. This just fits, in my opinion. Peter Skoronsky, offensive lineman. Zach Martin Comp, I think you can put him in it. He's got shorter arms than someone like for a tackle. I mean, he played tackle in college, did very well, but you could put him a guard.

I just think in Chicago, you do everything you can to protect Justin Fields. Injuries were an issue at times last year. That line was a mess early on. It got a little bit better as a run blocking unit. But I just say you keep fortifying the front five. I think this pick, if it happened, is one of the reasons they traded down tonight. I think they feel very comfortable with the positions that will be available there, whether it be defensive line or offensive line, especially offensive line,

that they might get their first pick, any offensive line. I think this is one of those picks that everyone is very confident about, and it makes so much sense for where Chicago is and what they want to do and how they want to protect Justin Fields after he got beat up last year. I thought this was a chance because I know Joe Douglas is known to be aggressive when it comes to offensive linement that they might try to maybe get ahead of nine and grab Skrotsky. But after what happened with Rogers,

I think they might be a little more conservative. So Chicago, that's a good one. That's locked and loaded, I think. All right. Number 10. Eagles. I love this guy. Lucas Van Ness out of Iowa.

I think this is an ascending prospect this whole tight and through this whole process. He brings brutality and might to a defense that lost a couple people. You've got a new defensive coordinator. I just, I think he fits so well with what the Eagles like to do and just damaging, you know, opposing quarterback. As a renegade in the mock draft, sphere, how closely do you pay attention to, let's say, Daniel Jeremiah, maybe the leader of the entire industry, what he's saying about this team specifically,

as a former, former Eagles, and I heard him say he had four names that he said, he almost was sure that the Eagles, it will be one of the four. And I feel like I can feel like. It was Gronsky, Paris Johnson, Van Ness, or Nolan Smith, and I think Van Ness was his favorite. I would pay attention to Daniel Jeremiah. I wouldn't go out of my way to not pay attention to him if that's how you're asking the question. Right.

I want you to take him down. I was trying to set you up. I think this is the right spot for the Renegade Rebel. You got to hit back at the fat cats that run and rule the industry. That's just. Well, that's true.

Unsolicited advice. You think Jeremiah got to where he was without a few Knifes and Mayox's back? He was the one calling up Al Davis and being like, you want to hire this guy? Yeah, you want to hire this guy? He's not. He's not.

just wholesome, he's the wholesome assassin. Don't forget. That's part two, yeah. And if you don't knife him, believe you me, he'll knife your ass. There is one disconnect, though. What? I mean, he spends, like, I don't want to spend seven or eight months doing what he does. So it's like...

You might want his paycheck. I would like that. That is your top ten. Before we take a break, Grave digger, let's see your top ten. All right. And see how it's the same and how it's different. All right, here's a little side by side. I also have Bryce Young.

Will Anderson is the top two picks. I do not have any trades in the top five. So I have the Cardinals staying put in grabbing Tyree Wilson as much as they want to trade down. Nobody is willing to pay the price to come up that high. The Colts so connected to Will Levis, even with Stroud and Richardson on the board. I see that too. I think that that's going to be the pick. And then I did buy into this recent report that the Seahawks are targeting Anthony Richardson at five.

So that's where my third quarterback goes. Off the board. And when you look at this budding rivalry here in the mock draft Renegades division, right off the back, Gregi, we're going to have a top five that has some big differences

and someone, there's a good chance someone's out to a big lead right off the back. Right, that's Grave Digger had it nailed the top 10. It's easier to get the top 10 right. That's your better chance. You start with a lead, you get one or two right over the other guy and suddenly it's an avalanche.

That's what happened last year. Yeah, so that's what Justin's looking to do here. How about your next five in the top 10? have noticed that grave digger's made some very beautiful graphics you can check out on our YouTube and I think they're even more beautiful because this is his day grave digger like a little extra effort you don't have to do much digging on that great digger nice one all right my next six picks starting with the Lions at six this is where Jalen Carter I think his floor is if the Seahawks don't take him at five makes sense I don't think he gets further I also have

Devin Witherspoon here for the Raiders I've seen reports that it's Devin Witherspoon or Peter Scoronsky for the Raiders. So in this scenario, I think Witherspoon gets to seven, but if there's a lot of talk, the Lions could take him at six, in which case, Skoronski could go seven, or the Raiders could take Christian Gonzalez at seven. And then I have a trade up here as well. I like this.

It's the same team trading up. The Titans coming up from 11, but this time they're trading back with the Falcons at 8. I've seen a lot of buzz that the Falcons are already making calls to move down. I think Albert Beer reported that. DJ said the Falcons are expected to have a lot of guys on their board that they like at 8, so they'd be willing to move back. If they wanted Bijan or Jackson Smith and Jigba, that could be a trade-down scenario.

Exactly. And then I also have the Bears taking offensive. So you got C.J. Stroud. Oh, sorry, yes. Titans take C.J. Stroud ending his fall, and that's all for the top four quarterbacks and the top eight. Both of our rebels here have the Titans starting over at QB with a top 10 pick. There's just a lot of heat around there. Yeah, exactly.

There's too much smoke there. for it to mean nothing, in my opinion. Very clever, too, because your sandwich props, which I wanted to ding you on, was that there's no trades within the top seven picks. I could have sworn it was top 10, but you were very smart. You're consistent between the sandwich props and this.

That's why he's dangerous, Mark. He's hungry and he's young. I do see a lot of shared concepts between us, but different names attached to those concepts. Same church, different pews. We're way past this, but I pointed out, how Al Davis was the one that Mike hired Mike Mayak. I do want to point out Al Davis had been no longer on this earth for many years by that point.

He was gone. A mistake by me. At that point, 2010, I believe he passed or 2011 in that range. All right. You have. Paris Johnson Jr. at number nine to the Bears. That's where Mark can catch back up a little Scoronsky over Jackson head-to-head offensive line. That would be a big shock, I think.

They could go either way. but the latest things I'm hearing from little birdies is that Paris Johnson is more highly viewed by the league than he is by mock drafters, and that the Bears spent a lot of time with him at Ohio State Pro Day. What are the little birdies, the Move the Sticks podcast? I cannot reveal any sources.

Scronzzi's got them little arms. Nobody wants them little arms and sausage fingers. And at 10, I have the Eagles taking Christian Gonzalez, and I heard what you guys just talked about DJ saying the Eagles top four guys, and I totally agree. But in this crazy scenario where Christian Gonzalez falls to 10, I feel like the Eagles are that BPA kind of team. They just take the best player,

and they don't think Gonzalez is going to make it to 10, and that's why I mocked him here, although this could be a big spot for me to lose points. Either that or I'm taken out behind the building at this point. I mean, DJ gives you four names on the Eagles where he used to work, and you're just like thumbing your nose. at him. I did have Nolan Smith.

He has birdies too. You never know. I had Nolan Smith here initially and then I was like, this is one of those weird things about mock drafting that I get trapped in where I'm like, Christian Gonzalez can't fall that far. He's too good. Yeah. It's going to cause them to recalibrate their thinking in real time.

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listen to the move the six podcast on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your All right. They're right. Welcome back to the 15th annual Mark Sessler mock draft. The Rebel Edition. The rivalry is real as we move to the middle of the first round. Mark, back to your picks now. Who is the first player picked outside the top 10 on Thursday night?

I like what Grave Digger said about Christian Gonzalez because I struggled with this too. He's at 11 to the Cardinals who had done that trade with the Titans, so they can't pass them up. They need everything. So why not start here with a great cornerback to anchor a defense that wants at every position? So that's my pick there at number 11. Excited for Cardinals fans. The first draft without Steve Kime. It's a nice day. It's time to turn it. It's been a bad off season. We're turning the page. We're getting new cards. Who was that again? I'm sorry. I missed that one. Christian Gonzalez. Christian Gonzalez. All right, there you go. Number Number 11, Mark Sessler.

All right, let's move to number 12. All right, so this may be a little too rich and too dreamy for Texans fans, but somehow C.J. Stroud falls all the way to number 12, and without having to maneuver up or down or cost them anything, bang, they get their quarterback right there. And they say S2 tests, we don't really care. We'll build our offense around Stroud one way or another.

Can I push back on this one? Sure. If they didn't like C.J. Stroud enough to take them at number two, that must mean they have some real reservations about him, right? They might not think he's a guy, a dog. So why would you then use your number 12 pick on a guy that you didn't like enough to take when you own the draft order too? Like I said, this is a little rich and dreamy,

but I think it's not that they don't like him. Maybe he aces his S2 test, but during Thursday night, he retakes it. Grades come in, he's got a B-minus. That would change things. I think that the number two thing has a lot to do with Damico Ryan's as head coach and starting with the player, he can always sort of said,

this was my guy. I don't think this has anything to do with Nick Casario at this point, who I'm not sure is even there in a couple weeks. So Stroud falls to them. Like, the other option is you can go, Henan Hooker, who's already, you know,

in his mid-20s, I don't think they do that. So I think Stroud is just something you can't pass up if you get to them at 12. Although you already did. At 12, not number two. I mean, I logically, I get what you're saying. And again, this was around minute 27 of, 65 for me, so I was like, got to keep moving.

So, you know, I can't. Graver, behind the glass is like twisting his mustache with glee. I think this is kind of canny, though, because the Texans could trade up for Stroud, too, and we'll still give Mark, I don't know, half credit for that. Like, if it's the second. Team name it, for both of us, team and name is. If they take them at two, you still get credit? Graver, we both felt that way that we were, you score us both the same way.

If they go, if it goes to the right team, who cares where. That sounds good to me. So that was my strategy. That was kind of good because if they trade up to seven or something. Does it make sense in the real world? Not at all. They kind of cover, you have a little coverage there. No, I think Dan's point is right, though.

If you want him, you want to. To Dave Gettelman's point, if I was going to take Daniel Jones at 18, I'm going to take that guy at 6. That's my guy. Well, I hope and saying it was a little rich and dreamy for the real world. It's not referenced to Gettleman too often in matters of draft strategy. I don't trade back. Never trade back.

Go ahead. We need this laugh track all the time. That's what the show's been missing. Go ahead, Mark. Laf track. This is a live studio on. Strike that. Strike that from the record.

Right up there. Strike that from the rear. Green Bay Packers. Now it's time to start building around your quarterback. So they take the first wide receiver off the board, Jackson Smith and Jigba out of Ohio State. And of course, this is the draft pick that they got from the New York Jets. Right.

Aaron Rogers trade moving up a couple spots. It's interesting because they moved ahead of the Patriots and they have maybe the top two same needs as the Patriots. That's annoying to you. Wide receiver and tackle. Well, I would have said the Jets were almost locked in to take a tackle there and I think that's probably the most likely Patriots pick. So either way, but they also could take a receiver, which is a big Patriots.

But they do not. In fact, they don't even address their top two needs. The Patriots, the Patriots do not. So you have, I like it, by the way, for Green Bay. sense. And if it annoys Iron Rogers, even better. But Christian Watson, who's emerging as a star in the back end of last year, now you pair him with a young, potentially dynamic receiver in Injigba. Okay. We're cooking with a new quarterback. Nice combo, too. I think there's an argument for them to add a bunch of players. I like Watson a lot,

but like they, I think with love, it's like, I believe they will add a bunch of players over the next. But I said that wide receiver and tight end for my sandwich bet that they, at least four. Could you take you on that. It's a, it's a, too nebulous that way. He couldn't take you. Mark, I couldn't take you. It was nebulous. That's okay. Patriots don't do what you think, Greg.

In my world. They probably will do what you think in the real world. But they go Nolan Smith edge out of Georgia. I like that. Just Belichick adding a defensive player that he's falling in love with. It feels like a guy they would love. You can... Character guy.

Everyone says he's the greatest Georgia leader, you know. Maybe the answer is Mack Jones. But Belichick, as we know, everybody was laughing at him about the guard. took last year, even though that didn't turn out poorly. He very rarely does what the draft industrial complex thinks he's going to do. Never.

Mack Jones, perhaps. That kind of made sense in that moment, but for the most part, he's going to Zing. Coles Strange, not so much. Although supposedly, they were going to take Elijah Vera Tucker if the Jets hadn't traded up for him, which is a weird sliding doors moment. Speaking of the Jets, is this their pick? It is, and

the Jets take Broderick Jones, Georgia, offensive tackle. six five three hundred and eleven pounds one of the more rough and tumble big boys in the draft in a lot of juts fans here it's great was that my sandwich that was that was oh i'll be i'll be dancing in the streets last year i picked sauce going to the jets and if i could do it two years in row yummy that makes sense they're going to take they are absolutely taking an offensive tackle and then you could say oh look why would they do that They got Dwayne Brown back. They got Mackay Beckton. Those are starters.

There is no, it's not a short bet either of those guys or somebody you could trust to be on the field by week four. And both those guys are not under contract after this year. So they need to get younger, restart at the position, and add some much necessary depth after they were wrecked on their O line last year by injuries. Nailed that one, Mark. Seems like a home run. 16.

The Washington commanders, I feel like this team is sort of petrified or Ron Rivera's sort of frozen from chasing a quarterback or doing anything big because of what's going on there in general. So Ron Rivera does a very Ron Rivera thing and just adds up front, offensive tackle Paris Johnson Jr. out of Ohio State. They can use some tackle help. Taken in the top 10 by Justin Graver.

I feel like tackles, tackles get pushed up. Defensive linemen and tackles. The people love getting them pushed up even when they're not that in love with them. And they busts quite a bit. You know? So they are, then, they're serious about the Sam Howell. thing clearly at this point i i feel like there's very little very little out there about the commanders

being a team that's going to suddenly do something stunning and go up and make a move a quarterback i think sam how and jacobi brissette for this year and this is very yeah very much a weird year the ship is a neutral year for washington that's how i feel about them right makes sense not to take a big swing a quarterback if you could build up the rest of the roster unless you love a quarterback who's there right now who's the top prospect is it hooker at this point? Yes. Okay, go ahead. All right. Pittsburgh Steelers number 17. Darnel Wright, offensive tackle, Tennessee. There's a couple of ways they could go, but I love- Tackle run. Pinch me. Absolutely. I think this is like their, why not continue just to add pieces to a young

offense? It's sort of all in the same contract biarrhythm right now. Their line got a little bit better last year as the season went on, but they need people and he could step right in and start. Here's why tackles get pushed up because they are never available in free agency. And if you look through the 32 rosters, there's about 23 that have a need at tackle. Like you could slot these to practically any team. Well, you know my theory that I think that now as children by age three or four are just staring at screens instead of going out and like mowing the lawn and stuff when they're young boys. Like we're going to have less and less big beefy linemen that are going to be less tough-minded in general. They're already little nuggets out there about it's tougher to find these guys in general.

Go play outside, kids. Please. Right. It's really up to you, though, as a parent. I actually started Walker mowing the lawn at two years old. Three was too late for me. It was an interesting example to use, Mark. A huge, like, motor saw spinning as fast as possible.

I'd say, Greg, combine that with young kids. That's noble. Some of the genetic material you're passing down would prevent Walker from becoming an offensive tackle. that's not your father. Yeah, whatever is the most, get a chainsaw in the mix as early as possible. It's good to get the kids in their motor. You know what I mean, though?

Put the pressure on their motor reflexes and abilities early on. Get out there and do that farm work while still a tot. What are they called? Iron, sharpens iron? Yeah. Chainsaw. They call. Sharpenes motor skills.

All right. Detroit Lions. First tight end off the board. They go Michael Mayer out of Notre Dame. They traded away. T.J. Hawkinson. This is a ready-to-go polished tight end who can do a little bit of everything. And why not just add?

They've added defense. They got an edge. Go add someone to help Jared Goff on offense. Love it. Feels a little more like a lion than Dalton Kincaid for whatever reason. I guess my only question is like why. Why try T.J. Hawkinson to go draft another tight end when. I know, but I didn't love that trade to begin with.

Just like what is Hawkinson? This happens all the time, though. tightness very rarely in the NFL in the first round turn into stars. So it's like you're just getting, I guess, younger and perhaps cheaper? I don't even know if that's true. Yeah. Well, T.J. Hawkinson was a guy in the fourth year of a five-year contract. And they also moved up.

They got a second and a third and gave back a fourth. I mean, they got some nice picks. And that wasn't their guy. I think they, you know, for whatever reason, they didn't think he was. I think the hope would be Michael Mayer's about. better player than T.J. Hawkinson. Not that Hawkinson's bad, but... I mean, it is a positional need though, too. I mean, because of what they did. I'm

with you. It's annoying to go move guy and get another guy at the same position. It's okay. It's fine. I hope they don't do that. You know what? If it doesn't happen in real life, you... I'll be thrilled. The good thing on this is you don't need to be concerned about this. Tune back in Thursday night on the live street. And they replaced Jamal Williams with David Montgomery, so I guess I wouldn't have minded maybe

them making that running back splash here, but... That's true. You know. We're a receiver. Well, I've done them wrong, apparently. All right, so the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they go Miles Murphy, Edge out of Clemson. That just feels like a Todd Bowles going defense here. They call him this year's version of Trayvon Walker to some degree. He's massive.

Well, at 19, that's a better spot. That's perhaps disturbing. At 19, yes, I like it better. Toolsie. All right, number 20, we have another tight end. Dalton Kincaid goes to the Seahawks. not the number one blocking tight end here but he could be a centerpiece on offense

I think the Seahawks definitely are a team that could go wide receiver here I kind of went back and forth on that but I think that they fall in love with the idea of getting a starting tight end yeah I think they would love it if Smith and Jigba fell to them there's a lot of slot receivers in this draft

they need one so maybe they wait Kincaid to me is the most exciting receiver I think between tight ends and receivers in this draft. Like maybe the highest upside of anyone. Helps Gino, Greg. Noah Fant.

Passing on Richardson and your mock and then taking a weapon for him, that's the way to go. We got Noah Fant and Will Disley on that depth chart right now. How was Fant last year? It was okay. He used to find...

Dissley was really promising. I think he had an Achilles, I believe it was. It's not like a screaming need, but Fants in the final year of his contract. you know Seahawks do weird things too

they're not going to just I think this is more of my hesitation it was a knee injury that for Disney but anyway

I guess I'm just spooked by tight ends I'm just spooked I need you know we need the NFL needs it seems to be it seems to be sort of an issue

it's like a tight end to come kick some ass come into the league and go full grong I think Kyle Pitts did did harm to you well there's a OJ Howard

a whole class they're saying this The class is maybe the best tight-end class of the last decade. Seven or eight. Somebody be a good-looking guys. Somebody. I don't care. Somebody be good, that's all.

Somebody be a pro-ball player before year two. One of these tight ends. Save it for the live stream. Who is the last one? I mean, Pitts, I think, is going to be fine. Maybe. Mark Andrews came in and was good close pretty much right away. But that was five years ago now.

So that was a while. I mean, you'd have to almost say that Hawkinson's been one of the better results and he's not earth-shaking. If we don't have one of these tight ends that are entering the league this year in a Pro Bowl in the next three years, I don't want to ever hear about the tight end classes being great ever again. Just strike it. Ever again. Strike it from the first round conversation.

Treat them like tight ends. You have that power. I mean, running backs. I want to see if Graver put some tight ends in his 11 to 20. What number was that? Yeah, that was 20. Let's check in with Justin's 11 through 20. Check in with the mock that might.

completely devastated mine, why not? Stay confident, Mark. Or who knows which way we were going to go here. All right, my 11 had the Falcons trading back with the Titans 211, and that is where they take Bijan Robinson. Wait, I didn't hear the, where's the... This one?

Yeah, okay. I did it for the trade-up. You want it for the... I want all... The more sounds the better, huh? Yeah. Okay, at number 12, I have another trade-up. This one is the Steelers...

See, it's better. The Steelers who have been rumored to be making calls to come up, Trade up to number 12. The Texans, they took Will Anderson in the beginning. None of the other quarterbacks made it to them at 12, so they trade down to 17. And the Steelers grab offensive tackle Broderick Jones since Paris Johnson. Bad news, Justin.

It's already off the board. I know. Very just incredulous look from Rosenthal as soon as you mentioned this one. What do you mean? Why? You did it. No, I was. Show the replay of his face when it happened.

I was looking, I was reacting to the sound effects. I don't know. And I'm sorry that I didn't. give Broderick Jones to the Jets. You know, Kevin Colbert never used to trade the Steelers GM. He did make that Mink of Fitzpatrick trade, but that wasn't like a draft trade. He wasn't a guy who ever moved.

They do have a new GM, Omar Khan, so I guess they could look at it a little differently, but it would be changing from the norms. Yeah, and maybe these rumors are, you know, just smoke screens, but it has been out there that the Steelers are trying to come up for a tackle or for Jalen Carter if he were to fall, which I don't think that. It makes more sense when the Pittsburgh Steelers, have a position of strength on the offensive line.

They're the Steelers. Let's get back to that. It does make sense. I think they'd sit there. I do want to point out to make up some rules as we go here. Now, if Bejad Robinson actually gets drafted by the Falcons, but he gets drafted eighth, as Mark said, and Justin has him 11th,

I think the rules should come up with some sort of bonus for Mark here. You know, well, we're going to need to... Maybe we can come up with like a trade-nailing bonus, but I feel like the trade element is just for fun and the real contest here is going team player match. So like... We'll work something out, we'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll figure it.

To me, that would be a tiebreaker if, like, there was a tie. You're both going to get it wrong. Correct spots. That's true. Because, like, you shouldn't get as much. I think that's our third or fourth team player agreement there. Yeah, I think four, yeah. The offensive linemen, you're all completely different, though.

Let's keep going through then. All right, 13. I have the Packers, taking best player available, Lucas Van Ness. I know there's all this, like, buzz about them taking a wide receiver or a tight end, but that's just, like, that's not how they operate. And I don't know why they would change that starting this year. Fight, fight. So really deep class at wide receiver and tight end and second and third round,

so I think they pass. So you think Mark's a dummy? Yeah, is that what you're saying? That's the subtext. I don't understand why this is starting a fight. Okay, at 14, I have the Patriots taking Peter Skoronski. He goes off the board. The Patriots do their own thing.

They're like short arms, who cares? He's a good tackle. We're going to plug him in. Can you see that? It would be great if the Jets, once Skoronsky drops, they're like, they call up the Packers and they switch again. That would be great. They take Skronsky ahead of New England. Maybe a similar but better prospect to Isaiah Win, who also, they thought, would move to guard.

They never did, and ended up being a bad pick. All right, 15? 15. I got the Jets taking Darnell Wright. He's maybe the cleanest, like, pure right tackle evaluation in the class. Some, like, weird questions. about his character, but I think that the Jets will like him and get him in there and, you know,

get him at the, fix that tackle position since McKaybeckton can't stay healthy. All right, moving on. I got the commanders. I mean, as a new, weird character. Draft analyst. Maybe can you be more specific when you said weird character issues? That just feels like a broad brush.

Is he just like a strange dude? Because I didn't hear anything about that, so I'd like to hear more. There were some questions that came up about his, like, work ethic and practice. there was some weird, like, Twitter DM exchanges that he, like, somebody posted screenshots of him getting in people's DMs with, like, kind of weird messages.

I wouldn't let that affect my football evaluation of him, but it's just, like, it's out there now. The Jets are a little scarred by another guy. Beckton has similar, not creeping into people's DMs, but, like, does he love the game? Is he a hard worker? Would they take a chance on that? I don't know about that one, but also.

Don't know, right? Also, like, he shut down Will Anderson. Like, he was really good against Georgia. Like, he was just lights out. college. That should be factored into this. Yeah. It has been and we move on. We're getting creative here. Moving on. We got some, yes, we do. I'm just going

crazy because what the heck. Nobody's going to get this right anyway, right? Okay, so 16, I have the commanders taking Joey Porter Jr. There's a lot of smoke there. Like, a lot of mocks have that happening, so I'm just following the chalk. At 17, where the Texans have traded back with the Steelers, I have them taking quarterback Hendon Hooker.

Texans have been doing their homework on Hendon Hooker. They've been meeting with them. They've met with it multiple times throughout the process. And I don't see how they can come out of this draft without a quarterback just to, like, say, we took somebody. So I feel like this is a realistic possibility if they trade back, get some extra picks. Notice how the graphic, because Gravedigger is great branding. Mark has an equally great nickname, in my opinion, Quiet Storm. Why isn't it a Quiet Storm versus GraveDigger?

Why is you just Mark versus Graydigger? That's a good reporter's question. Pure oversight on my part. Monosymbolic. It's like, oh, hey, here's the middle manager versus the cool. Grave Digger, check out Monster Jam, Saturday at SoFi. This pod is billed as the fifth annual Mark Sessler mock draft, so I wanted to keep that consistent.

Sure. We don't call it the annual Quiet Storm mock draft. Okay. It's like, hey, cool, Grave Digger. You wouldn't want your daughter to date him versus, like, insurance salesman. Mark Sessler, yeah. Mark. Come on.

I'm totally checked out of this point. Go ahead. He's a top 10 football insider. For now. All right, moving on. Yeah, let's wrap this up. Let's go. Yeah, all right.

The Chiefs trading up to 18 with the Lions to take Zay Flowers is the number one receiver off the board. A lot of smoke there. Bucks, I have taking Anton Harrison, quarterback, sorry, offensive tackle out of Oklahoma. This is like one where people are saying that league is higher on him than the mock drafters, so I'm just taking a dart here. Okay. And then I have the bills trading up with the Seahawks to take Jackson Smith and Jigba. the bills are like, wow, I can't believe he's still on the board.

John Schneider and the Seahawks always trying to trade back, so they pull that off, and the bills get their slot receiver to either take over for or replace Dave Davis. Okay, I think if you get it, I've got a rule proposal. If you get a trade and player combo, you get an extra half. Okay. That's it. And otherwise, that's tangible. Okay.

That sounds good. Because you got like 17 trades here. It's getting a little outrageous. I think DeAndrey Hopkins is, I think, going to be moved in the next, you know, 96 hours. and the bills make so much sense. So I don't know if they double up there, but it's so hard to. Stefan Diggs not showing up to off-season workouts.

He's a little annoyed. He's a sensitive little man. Not so little, actually. All right. Let's see. Let's take one more break, and then we will hit the rest of the first round. Hey, this is Matt Jones.

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Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. La dee dee, the mock draft is here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome back. It is time now to finish out the 2020-mock draft. Mark Sessler take us through the final 11 picks.

All right, the chargers go Jalen Hyatt, field stretching wide out of Tennessee. I think that feels like an obvious need for them. Ravens. I love this more than I think it may happen, but Joey Porter Jr., the son of the Steelers, Great, goes to the Baltimore Ravens. I think I can just stick it to Pittsburgh for years there. The Vikings, Hendon Hooker. Kurt Cousins out the door after this season. I like the match. There's a lot of heat around that if he falls that far. Then I am in the same church and pew once again with Gravedigger, because I have the Kansas City Chiefs trading up to 24 with the Jaguars to get Zayford. Flowers, who they've done a lot of work on. And at 25, the New York Giants, Quentin Johnston, falls right into their laps. And I really could see the New York Giants going wide receiver and just continuing to add around Daniel Jones.

And Johnston would be an interesting New York Giant. Now, I think with the Chiefs, you each have flowers, same church. Might be different pews, because you have them a little later. The pew pews is a little back. Well, they're both, it's both the trade, though. So we would both get that extra half point that we're discussing. That's true. Are you more of a front pew type of guy

When you were a religious man Where I'm sitting I can see him in the church Grave digger from where I'm sitting You don't have to crane the neck too far I like your hand and hooker placement with the Vikings I think that is a better chance

I like a quarterback And I'm rooting for Mark by the way I have a feeling Dan agrees Yeah We're going with the old standby The old guard Take out these new young guns Yeah

Although we want everyone to do well Because I know, Justin, you put a lot of work into this. It's the saying we knew Mark a lot longer. Sure. I'm rooting for Mark, too, for what it's worth. Sure, you are. Well, that's rich. Sure, yeah.

I think you guys are missing one thing that's going to shake up the draft board. I think Minnesota might be more aggressive in setting up their QB of the future. I could see them picking in the top 10, moving all the way up and grabbing one of those earlier QBs. I think there's a lot of breadcrumbs pointing to the Vikings reshuffling the deck. as it were and with Cousins not reworking his deal. This feels like the end of the road. Could Cousins be moved?

Could they draft a Cubian move Cousins? The only place that ever felt logical to me was wherever Kyle Shanhan was and I think there's too much of a log jam at quarterback and same frame right now. There's got to be teams out there that would look at a one-year rental

of Cousins as the commanders? Enticing. Back to Washington? That ship is saying. Well, it's different. Ownership. I mean, not yet. That's too much. Different everything.

Too much. That was ugly. Different team name. True. All right. How about your 21 through 25 Grave Digger? All righty. So I, Miami's got picked 21 and they forfeited.

So technically it's the 21st pick, but it's pick 22. I have the Chargers taking Nolan Smith. I don't know. Man, like he's probably not going to fall this far. but if he does, the chargers would pounce on him, so whatever. There's like, I have like 25 players. Exhawning and grave bigger. I have like 25 players that I feel like are going to be top 20 picks,

and obviously the math doesn't check out there. So some people have to fall. You disagree with that rival GM. Yeah, the one who said there's only 15, and he has less than 15 or what. Yeah. Draft sucks. 23. They say that every year.

Weren't they saying that last year or two? Just waiting for Greg. You get fired up about that one again. They say that every other year. Maybe like two out of three. It's just stupid. At 23, I have the Ravens taking a wide receiver. Jordan Addison kind of matches the profile that they looked for when they took Marquis Brown.

Add another weapon, get Lamar to come home. He's number one, by the way, on my annual wide receiver rankings that I put out. It's very exciting. George Pickens was number two last year, Addison number one. Nice. By the way, who is left in the Lamar Jackson? sweepstakes from the I guess there can be movement now

the draft happens and then teams can reset the Jets are obviously out now because the Rogers thing is done if they were ever in I don't think they were who is out there as a potential match at this point in my world not the Falcons but in some worlds the Falcons based on who they picked

could be I guess when the dust clears on Saturday night there might be a team that wants to make a play there but we'll see he's probably just going back to Baltimore Probably. I don't believe the O'Dell Beckham was lying through his teeth in that press conference when he said he was given no assurances that Lamar Jackson was going to be his quarterback. Why would you go there?

Of course. Well, the money. O'Dell? Well, the money was juicy. But like O'Dell's going to go play with Tyler Huntley for four months? That feels like it would be good for about four minutes. Maybe he watched the Pro Bowl skills competition where Tyler was really doing well. He lit it up.

Go ahead. All right. At 24, I have the Vikings. taking cornerback Deonté Banks, another guy who could go earlier. This is like a best available fix the defense kind of situation. 25, I have the Jaguars taking Miles Murphy, another, you know, stop his slide because he's a guy that could go earlier. And at 26, I have the Giants taking tight end Michael Meyer.

This is the first place I have a tight end going off the board. I know they traded for Darren Waller, but Meyer is a guy who can really help in the run game and be another weapon outlet for Daniel Jones, who they don't. don't like to let him throw the ball that far down the field in that offense, so another little underneath outlaw. And Waller, I think, is entering his age 31 or 32 season, so it makes sense. It makes sense, too. All right, let's close it up now. Mark, your final picks of the first round. All right, Dallas Cowboys, they've lost Dalton Shultz. They've lost a bunch of tight ends in this draft, but they're going to go with someone that fascinates me. Darnel Washington out of Georgia,

six foot seven, 270 pounds, a human freak of nature. I can just see him in a Cowboys. I think Jerry Jones get fascinated by something like that. Sessler's guy. That and Van Ness in this job. Absolutely. I'm way into this guy. Buffalo Bills, they need a wide receiver. I love the idea of them trading up.

I agree that that's a real possibility. Because of where they started a fall, I think they stayed where they were. They go Jordan Addison out of USC. The Bengals, I struggle with this one because I really think they'd love to see a tight end fall to them where they are, but they're kind of out of them in this draft on my side. They go cornerback Deontay Banks out of Maryland. The Saints go Edge, Will McDonald. with State, add to that defense.

The Eagles go to Collijah Cancy. And man, like, you know when you do these mocks, you get to the end and it's like, crap, Colagia Cancy's not on the list. So I had to like redo the whole thing and try to figure out where to put them. I wanted them with New Orleans, essentially. And then I said Eagles, because the Eagles can't, they're not going to go take another edge. So he goes

to, he goes to Philly. The Jaguars with that trade from Kansas City sit at 31. They take DB Brian Branch out of Alabama. And I have one bonus pick. Okay. Because this is someone I really think has a chance to go in the first round. But at number 32, or 33, in round two, the Eagles will trade up with the Steelers, who had that second round pick from the Bears to get Jamar Gibbs, Alabama running back. They

get their running back, the Eagles. I was just about to ask about Gibbs to see, you know, there's been talk. Will there be multiple running backs to go in the first round? I still like the idea of Cincinnati pouncing on one of these guys. Yep. And Gibbs as a more natural fit, I think, then Robinson, I think, will be gone by the time Cincinnati picks. But coming off the board, where are you having gone? Philly? Yes, first pick of the second round. Okay. Maybe Justin will have to make a first pick of the second round as yet another tie-bric. I did enjoy Dan.

I don't know if you noticed when Mark looked over to Justin and was like, it's tough when you're doing these and like you didn't have can't see in there. And he was like, you identify with that right in a way that we, me and you, Dan, couldn't understand. Absolutely. I mean, we're brothers in arms. We are competing. That's like John Elway and Dan Marino, like sitting on a dock with their fishing poles, just chopping it up.

And I went through the same thing where I'm like, I still have four guys that should be first round picks. They're not in the first round. It is what it is. It's really backbreaking labor. All right, what do we got? All right. So for my last six picks,

I have the Cowboys taking Guard Osirons Torrance out of Florida. It's just like a Cowboys move to take the best linemen that's left on the board in the first round. They've done a good job. I know they need tight ends, but I don't have Dalton Kincaid going in the first round. Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm with you, Dan. It's like, these tight ends got to do something before they deserve to all be first round picks. So I don't have two or three tight ends going in the first round.

I'm leading the rebellion on that one, huh? All right, go ahead. My, I have the Seahawks in there trade back with the, whoever it was, the Bills, I guess, has a Keyon White, defensive end. I noticed lately when Mark has a trade, he's not getting the ding, but you're getting it. I must have missed it. I'm going to keep my, I'm going to stay calm. Next, I have the Bengals taking Brian Branch. They lost Jesse Bates in Free Agency.

Branch is like a versatile defensive back. We can play safety, can play nickel. I think he slots right into their defense. I like it. I have the Saints taking Collijah Cancy, and I'm in a situation where I'm like, Will McDonald should also be a first-round pick. I know Mark has Will McDonald going to the Saints here,

but I think they beef up the interior of the line, defensive line. I don't know. Who knows? At 31, I have the Eagles taking Gibbs. Project total confidence at all times, Justin. Mach 101. Nobody knows. Eagles Gibbs.

We both have Eagles Gibbs, but I have them staying put and taking him at 31. And then finally, with the Lions trade back from the Chiefs, they trade back from 18 to 32 and land. Cornerback, Emmanuel Forbes, a playmaker. Everyone's connecting Devon Weatherspoon to the Lions at pick six. But if they get Jalen Carter there instead, they're likely going. corner with their next pick. That's my guy. It's 6-1-165.

Let's promote body diversity. Let's expand our mind of what type of bodies can play in the NFL. And in the event of a tie after round one, the tiebreaker would be the first pick of round two. And that would be for you, Justin. The Cardinals pick there? That's the Steelers. The Steelers from the?

Oh, the Steelers. Oh, yeah, the Bears. The Steelers. We'll get back to you on that. Think about it. Mark, I think of something else to share. I have seven sports locks. And I did this sort of to tie up some loose ends,

especially around the Titans, because to your point, and I agree with you 100%. I think if they go get the quarterback, Ryan Tanna Hill is traded to the Falcons. That's my sports lock number one. The second sports lock is that Derek Henry. Let's get some locks.

Let's lock it up. I mean, can we do a little something for it? Derek Henry? The rivalry is real. He's too busy, like, scrolling down, move the sticks his top one. Who's he going to take? I love it.

Pick a name. I love it. Derek Henry is traded to the Buffalo Bills. Then you're thinking, well, why would they go do that? Because the Titans turn around and take Zach Charbonnet. Okay. Running back. So they're kind of just getting young.

Younger. They're kind of doing the same thing. It's getting younger. I like it. Phoenix Suns to the NBA Finals. It's my fourth sports lock. Okay. It hasn't shown like great chemistry yet, but you can't question the talent.

Absolutely. And, you know, they're just, in a lot of ways, they're just now getting to build on that chemistry with Durant and Booker. And look at Chris Paul, you know. He's going to hit shots. They're very dangerous. What an actor. Unbelievable. They're just beginning to jail.

Any other thoughts about their rotation beyond those? I think you nailed it. And I think we, you know, we're moving on to the next sports lock, which is. Really need like a fifth guy, though, you know. Well, there's time to find that fifth guy. Sports lock number five, the Los Angeles Dodgers missed the playoffs. Oh, wow. And I just, you know, I listen to a lot of AM radio drifting around town.

I don't like the feel and the energy that there's a little bit of, you know, they thought they could float into the season with a lesser roster. Not going to happen this time. Sounds like April talk, but okay. Yeah, well, no one's going to remember. I said that. Sports lock number six, Lamar Jackson is never seen again by the human eye. It's over.

How do you spend that, Lamar, me, if that happens? That would be disappointing, but also unprecedented. He would be a legend. He would be legendary. I mean, he's getting a Netflix special if that happens. Yeah, it goes like full-on Amelia Earhart. All right, in industry news. I mean, isn't that the greatest personal accolade one can achieve in the 21st century, Netflix special?

After truly just banishing. I mean, it's probably more interesting than playing like another three seasons with the Ravens and not making, you know, the AFC title game. Yeah, David Koresh, really on the up and up right now. All right, in industry news, my final sports lock, major lawsuits take down Jimmy Dean sausage. Wow. Just when we were making growth with Mark. and meat products.

In the next calendar year, that happens. Shoot. It does say sports locks. How does that relate to, I guess Jimmy Dean's like a sports sponsor? I saw a Jimmy Dean sausage commercial on NFL network while preparing this list. So there is clear and obvious. You get that like one step forward, two steps back vibe there, Greg, with Mark after he ate the big cheeseburger a few weeks back.

Might go back and eat. A little wishcasting against the Dean industry. It's so specific. If you nail this one, I think it tops whatever that Baker of Mayfield nonsense was. Whatever. What was it? That was a nonsense.

That was a, you nailed it. You did. Although the back end of that prediction. It didn't work out for anyone. It was an absolute disaster. But you got, the front end was so profoundly perfect. Even I would not take that. And that was done in front of a true live audience.

It sure was. What, is this not a true audience? Let's hear it for the audience here. You really guys, you thought this would be easily 25 minutes short. order, and we thank you. Patience. Anything else? Graver, what are your seven sports locks?

We need them all right now. Or we'll take your first pick of the second round. Let's go there. No, Will McDonald. I don't know. Okay. That's good. Dalton Kincaid.

Boom. No, that doesn't make sense. The Steelers wouldn't take him. Say they trade out to somebody. Yeah. Somebody trades out for Kincage because they're like, wow. He's still on the board. It's crazy.

The Giants trade into it. They want another title. How about you? Yeah, Giant State 3 teams. I think you name a specific team, though, just not somebody. Somebody like the Bengals. It almost doesn't matter if Kincaid comes off the board and you have him. That's a tiebreaker.

That's a tiebreaker. Okay. Deal. The only way Mark could top you is if his tie break, his first pick, he matches the team as well. Mike Tomlin did almost say directly that they're trying to trade the 30 second overall pick. That's like the, that's one of the number one tropes in. sports media all that Friday. They're like, hey, it's great to be at the top

of the second round. You can really not, you know, you can control the board. Shut up. Most of the time, there's no change. Shut up. They have to talk for like seven straight hours, which we're going to learn. Throughout a team, though, just in case, Mark nails it. Yeah, like, I don't know why you're so being so haphous. They already had them trade down in the first round

that got extra picked. I like saying no more. I like King K to the Seahars. We don't. Well, that's not what his decision was. Old McDonald. I'm going to miss it no matter what. All right. stuff great stuff uh mark justin best of luck uh may the best man win and remember uh you could track this in real time with us on thursday the live stream on youtube you can find the links on any of our social accounts and follow along all right that's it the next time you hear from us

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