NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Fourth Annual Marc Sessler Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 27, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you the most anticipated piece of draft content each year: Sessler's annual mock draft. Later, Spice Rack joins to share his thoughts and predictions about this year's draft class.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis. I got some heroes here, Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler, and wow. The draft week is off to a flying start. We had our sandwich props. MJD came in. Then Kvon Tibido, potentially a top five pick in the draft. He shows

up out of nowhere. We talk about Erica and her future. That was a major moment in the podcast, recent history. And Greg, we're just getting started because that was all just an appetizer. Like Erica's future. Okay, great. Like, that's cool.

But now we're talking mock draft with Mark Sessler. Potential number one overall pick. Oh, like one of the greatest Jaguars of the all the time. Ooh, whatever. Be greatest. How about the greatest mock drafter in the history of mock drafters? It's Mark Sessler. The moment is yours, Mark.

The floor is about to be yours. No one is going to get in your way. No one will be talking over you. This is your moment to shine. It is the 2022 Mark Sessler, mock draft, and I know you're excited. It's been an incredible process. One that I, you know, you think, oh, it's a road activity. We've done this before.

Sure. Just follow, you know, paint by numbers. Well, this year has been very different. You know, I have had to change the way that I approach this, and I've done that. Take us through it. Take us through process. Yeah, well, I'll tell you that, you know, of course, like a mitochondria or something, there's a lot of osmosis.

you're hearing different information for months. Some from, you know, well-established birds inside of buildings. Sparrows, if you are. Some not from those sources. Not NFL buildings, to be clear, just actual buildings. Just buildings. Like a KFC. Civic buildings.

They're homes. That's where they come. Oh, like government buildings, like local government. Right. And I will say one differentiating factor in years past, I would build out my mock draft over the course of days potentially. Sure. which is a little different than the Lanzir lines of the world,

the Daniel Jeremiah's who actually the process begins the previous year. It's sharply different. But you are more a less is more seven-minute abs approach to the mock draft. Economical. And I think that so I really wanted to peak that the difference there. So this time around, before adding any player to team X, Y, and Z, I just said, I'm going to learn everything I can. and I decided to begin the process.

It is right now in Los Angeles, about 1.28 p.m. I began this process putting name to paper at 3.33 a.m. when I set my alarm. I slept on the couch to not disrupt family. I had the laptop poised on a cushion right near my head. And the minute that the alarm went off, I began the process. The alarm was from the laptop? Well, from my phone. You know, setting at 333.

They're painting a picture for sure. Do you turn the lights on or not? That might disrupt. No, I lied under a large comforter and just the light of the laptop staring back at me. And he, coffee, any, like, extra curriculum? No, you're in a whole different mind. You're in a different mental state. I guess what it sounds like you're saying is that we're down to about two-minute abs now,

where your day of getting up in the middle of the night and just cramming and giving us a full, is this a full 256 or whatever, or is this just the top 32? Where are we at? Top 32, but I've added a feature this time. something that I have called at the end of that first round 10 locks it's that simple

So it's 32 picks plus 10 locks 10 other things that will happen in this draft that are of notable either newsworthy weight or just I know this player is going to this person to this team in a later round And you know you have to cut through the noise

it's like people trying to start a podcast in 2022 you have to figure out how to cut through the noise with you having your own mock draft millions of others and now you have this subcategory maybe 10 locks maybe we could workshop that maybe we could give that thing a little panache a little sizz that's something to think about it was about 414 a.m. when I came up with that that that subtitle so that yes that we could work on that next year. It only it only took like 40 minutes to get through the mock well actually I started doing the math that he got to the I started working on my 10 locks while Greg and I are like red

stringing this down figuring out how much time you actually put into it let's not dig to it let's not too deep in the timeline. So let's do it. The 22, Mark Sessler, mock draft. And remember the stakes here. Remember the stakes. Mark doesn't have to hit all 32, but he does have to beat Josh Norris of the Underdog Network, who set a record with 16 out of 32 last year. He's not doing 16 this year. We know that. We set the over under when he was on the show at eight and a half. So that's kind of what we're going for. We want, we're looking for you to hit nine or 10, take out Norris. He has a Miacolpa. He gets humbled. You rise up in the industry. We need 10 out of 32. Can you give us that? I hope so. And I hope that would also, you know, serve as a tipping point for my employer to actually put it on our website. It's true. It's true. It does bother you. The MJD, like, he's just, I mean, he's a good guy. He was a great guest. It's like, he's not a draft expert necessarily. Yeah. Wait a second. No, I think that, right? I think that the last I'm just saying Mark could be.

Okay, Mr. I never played the game. I never thought I'd be siding in that, that under the ledger, but in this case, unnecessary for a former guest. Mark, let's get going. Again, tan is the goal, but we have to remember. And I did check out the, I did check out your mock last year. You had some, like everyone else in the industry, you had, you had Trevor one, you had Zach two. You knew Kyle Pitts, it had already been reported that. the Falcons were taking him at four.

Right, these barely count. You had gimmies. Yeah. And I don't see any layups here, so let's get going with the Jaguars. Who are they actually taken? I know that there is a, there's a factional, I wouldn't call it, a split, but there's different opinions inside that building. And I'm going against Aidan Hutchinson, who I think Shod Khan is preferring in favor of Trayvon

Walker. Oh, okay. So Trayvon Walker out of Georgia. And then to round out your top five here, you have Aiden Hutchinson, Michigan, going two to the Lions. is interesting. I know you were high a little bit on the idea of Malik Willis going from Liberty to the Lions. Right. That was my Mark draft. Mark and mock. Very different. Mark draft, I have to use different information. Very good.

You have Sauce Gardner, the Cincinnati cornerback going to the Texans at three. You know, I feel pretty hot in the pants about Gardner going to the Jets. But I guess I'll have to settle for our new friend. Well, not a friend. He made it clear. We're not going to be friends. Kavon Tibino out of Oregon, the Edge, going to the Jets at four. And then, Iki Akka Kanwu going to the Giants who certainly need the offensive line help. Anything, Greg, jump out to you there? Yeah, I want, Mark, just how do you feel like

Soss Gardner fits into Lovie Smith scheme versus Derek Stingley? I think Soss Gardner is, if you're the Houston Texans, you're looking at someone who has years and years of production. He started as a freshman. He has never allowed a touchdown in his college career. He's played over a thousand snaps. He can play press.

He can play zone. I get that it may not be the number one thing. Eat it, Rosenthal. You're trying to catch you. This is a home run. And if that's how Greg's tone's going to be during this, I'm kicking him out of here. I'm going to be like Taylor and Maurice Jones Jew circa 2015.

Yeah, unfriendly. Because Lovie, it's like a little bit more of a zone thing and Stingley. Some people think it is maybe more of a zone type of corner. Well, that's if you believe that Lovie Smith is going to be there for the next five years, too. I think that they're going to go play a rover current scenario. Greg, I think it's good at this point to also factor in. And remember that Mark's mock draft represents us as well.

So what we're trying to do is raise Mark up. We don't want to expose Mark, which I think was your goal there. You guys are weird. I've been raising Marks up this whole time. What I want is... All right, Stinky Davis. I know what you were doing there. Our listeners, I want them to learn.

And I know that maybe Mark hasn't studied as many hours, but the studying he done did is incisive. And we should find out. Those 44 minutes were. Thank you, Greg. That really registers. All right. It was a good answer.

Now, we talked about it with MJD yesterday. In an insane turn of events, he has four quarterbacks going and five picks in the back of the top 10. You're not quite at that level, but it gets saucy. You got Kenny Pickett going to the Panthers. There's a lot of buzz there, obviously. They need a solution, and they've perhaps boxed themselves into a corner. So they go and take Kenny Pickett, the first quarterback off the board. Then we have our first trade, Ricky Hollywood.

And it's another quarterback, Mark, and I'll tee you up that way. So if this happened, I don't see another mock draft out there with this scenario that the Pittsburgh Steelers who typically don't do this, make a trade with the New York Giants at number seven to jump up and take Malik Willis. Why do I think they'd like Malik Willis? If he fell to them at number 20, I think they would just take them. We've been hearing Mike Tomlin talk about mobility and athleticism at the position for months. And that's Malik Willis. And I think why I did this trade here at number seven, it's aggressive. I get that. It's probably unlikely. But at number eight, you've got the Atlanta Falcons, who I think are a real target for

Malik Willis or a quarterback in general. Then you've got the Seattle Seahawks at number So I think the Steelers are saying, and Kevin Colbert in his final lever pool, says, is this a typical for Steelers country? Yes, but we're going to go for it. We're going to go up there. It's only 13 spots and you'll get our guy. I thought about this when we did our sandwich props because a lot of people are saying it, and it was almost too many people were saying it.

So I stayed away. But I definitely buy into that. Ozzie Newsom did it with Lamar Jackson famously, that he's going to want to have, you just take a swing on a legacy pick. And if he flames out, no one's going to remember. You had a great career anyway. But I make people remember you went out on a stinker if you draft the quarterback bust. But it won't ruin the man's legacy.

But if you hit on it, if you hit on it, then you burnish your legend even further. And then you have another trade, Ricky, at number 10. And I'm falling in love. Ah, yes. So at number 10, that's where we thought the Jets, they might go get their wide receiver. Instead, the Jets manufacture a monster trade

with the Seattle Seahawks for D.K. Metcalfe, a sure thing. We like a lot of these rookie wide outs. The Jets have been chasing premier veteran wide receiver talent all offseason, swinging, missing. This time they get it. And it's actually the pick that I believe

Jamal Adams went back to New York for. Seahawks got the pick back. Seattle gets it back and they take Jameson Williams to start to begin. They truly are in a rebuild, but it's with young players on rookie contracts. The Jets get what they want.

They have Corey Davis, Elijah Moore. You add D.K. Metcalf to the mix with Braxton Berrios and Tyler Lockett is paired with James and Williams. Is this a one-for-one trade? Or is the Jets giving more than just the first?

They give more, but it's passed round one. And they didn't have to give away their number four. They give, I think they want to move for someone, I think it's that number 10 pick they want to use. I could see it.

I think if a team was willing to give up the top 10 pick, the number 10 pick, the Seahawks would be interested. You might even have to give up a little more. Who knows? I think if the Seahawks come out of this draft like they do on Mark's mock draft, which means it's going to happen with Derek Stingley and Jameson Williams, I think they could convince themselves that this was a smart move,

even if I am dubious about it as much as I like William. And it should be known that the trade, and I'll get to why this is so important in just a moment, mark. The reason the trade of Tyreek Hill that the Jets thought they had completed with the Chiefs was for two second round picks. So that would tell us that

Joe Douglas, the general manager, would be in a situation where he's willing to part with a top 10 pick to get D.K. Metcalf, who to me is a great player, but a lesser player than Tyreek. And I think it's a big gamble by you. And you know why it's a big gamble? Because as Josh Norris told us on the show,

Mr. 16 out of 32, the key to having successful mock draft is you nail the top 10 and then you match player and team fits for the rest of the draft so if you if you miss and swing and miss on some of these big trade

predictions you're done you're cooked I would lose all credibility if I had any I absolutely respect that you're taking those swings I just saw like the air go out of Mark's body as you were explaining when I put this together you know over the course of 56 minutes

or so like I was like I want it's just to be a memorable exercise. Although the Steelers trade is where I think you're being smart because, yeah, maybe they don't trade up to seven. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. But either way, Malik Willis, Pittsburgh Steelers, you just need that to match. You get that.

You get credit for it, even if it's at 16. And the Steelers have been so transparent over the last few years where everyone always seems to know their pick. And everyone's always like, well, they can't just like be that transparent about it again. And it's like, yep, they are actually that transparent. Ricky, and I know you're one foot out the door now with the podcast, and we're upset about it, but also maybe you're not dot in the eyes and crossing the T's. Apparently, it looks like we have 500 people in a studio audience here with us,

and I'm just curious if that's following Los Angeles County guidelines for COVID testing. During this critical time. Yeah, everyone's been tested, vaccinated, double-boasted. I'm sure Eric is all over that. Yeah, I'm fighting them off back here. They're all boosted. Yeah, everyone's, everyone's. I stopped by the CVS last week to go get a double boost before me.

There you got the jam? A little extra. Yeah, a little extra. So everybody got the jab here. Get some tweets about that. Oh, look at you. Another pony being led to slaughter with the Fauci Jam. Whatever, bro.

Anyway, let's get back on. Do we have to take a break, Ricky? Yeah, I was actually going to ask you up, but you're kind of like... I still have to do that, too? We've only been going 14 minutes. Oh, then let's keep going. Let's move. Greg, I know I want to kind of pivot to you on this. There are some picks.

Let's look at the 11 to 20. Anything jump out to you, some superlative. Yeah, Greg Rosenthal, everybody. Okay. Thank you. Really great to have them here. Yeah, I'd like to just ask you a question. Kind of throw this in the category of like the, oh, no, Mark.

didn't picks. And that would be Garrett Wilson to the Chargers at 17. There's one where you have Garrett Wilson actually as the fourth wide receiver off the board, behind Jameson Williams, behind Drake London, behind Chris Olav. So you are saying that the NFL doesn't respect Daniel Jeremiah, who had Garrett Wilson ranked in his top five and the other receivers way behind him. But the Chargers, which maybe you're trying to say Daniel Jaya or Maya is running as a shadow operation, takes him after he slides all the way to set. Well, I think you nailed that from wire to wire. That's absolutely where my thinking was. It's like that.

It's good. I'm telling you, Mark's, Mark has no time to waste with the mock draft this year. Everything is going to be insightful and he's not going to, he's not going to mess around. He's not looking to be hiding in the bushes on this. Everything is right there in front of you. think the Saints fans would be happy with a Chris Olavé Trevor Penning combination at 16 and 19. Penning gets me a little concerned in general. Not saying that couldn't happen, but... I think Penning, like, from what I've read about him, is a nasty dude, and I kind of like that for the Saints.

You know, Tren Olmsted is out the door. That's a great point, Mark. Thank you. I don't, I think it's a need. I mean, I think the other thing is that, like, it sounds like wide receiver quarterback. Maybe something is to come with the Saints. see, but I like the idea of getting an offensive lineman. I do like Chris Ilave for the scenes. And people can find this on the internet somewhere, not at NFL.com. My thought was we would maybe screencap it and send it out with a link to the show

because we're not going to cover every page. So check it out on the around the NFL Twitter page, I'm sure. On Instagram, you can see the full 32. They won't be pinning that. I want to throw a few more out there from the top of the middle here, 11 to 20. You have Kyle Hamilton going to the conference. commanders, Jermaine Johnson, going to the Vikings, Charles Cross to the Texans, mentioned Drake London going to the Eagles, you have a run at wide receivers there, London,

Olavi, Wilson, and then Traylon Burks. And yet another trade, again, this is what I talk about when I talk about. Mark is not here to compete. He's here to win or lose badly. So we have the Tennessee Titans trading up to 20 where the New York Giants had sat after trading with the Steelers. So the Giants are friendly to moving around that second first pick of theirs. They get Traylon Burks.

And I did talk to Gravedigger, who is right now fast at work on a different scenario. Here were his comments. I'll give them to you quick on getting Traylon Burks. You only have a little more fast at work on a different scenario? He's just working on a different project. He's actually working on a different scenario. Yes. Okay. He is hard at work. He's an industrial person. I love Traylon Burks, he says. He's a great fit in the offense.

He's a great fit in the offense because he can play in the slot or out wide. And according to Gravedigger, I actually predicted he would be the Titans first round pick on my Titans podcast that came out today. Whoa, that carries weight. We know that. So we're in lockstep, you know, psychically even. You know, I had put a sandwich on Ritter going there. That's the number 20 pick. I think that's really interesting because one thing I thought about it, what if Malik Willis goes before the Steelers?

What if they can't trade up to it? And we've heard Pittsburgh likes a mobile quarterback. They could also be a spot there to take Desmond Ritter, but in this case, it's a trade for the Titans. I don't know. He seems almost too much like a poor man's A.J. Brown, Traylin, Berks, to me, why get another one? But maybe that's just the kind they like.

Well, they may not have A.G. Brown forever either. but TBD. Maybe it's an AJ Brown replacement. I like that. That's a great point, Mark. Unbelievable. I got to say, Mark, I'm not happy. Another one I would throw in the category of like, oh, no, Mark didn't.

You gave the Patriots like another undersized cornerback. Well, I don't think it's not everyone loves him. But the next Patriots pick for an undersized cornerback in the first two rounds that works will be the first one. That just seems like a boring pick. at a time when I want some sizzle from one of these wide receipts. I hear what you're saying. I mean, you've lost Jacey Jackson. You've got to address the position.

It's not that it's not the deepest cornerback class after you get a couple in. Not to mention, Mark, that that's part of the Patriots draft day drama. There's always, it's always a bit of a head scratcher, not always, but sometimes. And then people love McDuffie and he ends up being a player and away we go. Right. People love McDuffie. That's a totally logical spot for him to go. It's almost too logical.

It's just like, hey, let's take another. small guy who plays multiple positions, but he really, he's really tough. Greg's worried. I mean, he's 5.11. I wouldn't mind being 5.11. Hey, how about you just wait, like, and take someone, you know, get J.C. Jackson, you know, as an undraft.

Where did you have Bill Bel checking your most recent GM power rankings? I think I put him 10, and I got a lot of people saying that he was too high. Yeah, that it was too generous. And then a lot of Patriots fans saying, like, how dare you that he's too low? It's, uh, how many picks do the pets have this draft? This is a big draft for them. And they have to, they obviously got better last year and then things ended terribly. I want to see which direction the Pats go is they continue year three away from Tommy.

In fairness, they had their best draft in at least nine years since the Hightower Chandler Jones draft. Maybe since like 2004 last year. I mean, Mack Jones, Christian Barmore, Ramondri Stevenson, they kind of nailed back. Stack a couple of those in the bills. They'll be hot on their heels. So that rose his ranking up to 10. He was lower before that? I don't know.

You're just a little nonpluss. All right, we're just getting started here with the Marksess or mock draft. We will be right back after this break to finish out the first round. Before we get to, Marks Lox. It's 5.23 p.m. One of your kids is asking for a snack. Another is building a fort out of your clean laundry. And you're staring at a half-empty fridge and thinking,

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Let's hit the balance of the first round. Let's see, you have, yes, Jehan Dotson going to the Packers. So they fill the wide receiver need. They have two first round picks. Some people are saying they're going to take two wide receivers. I think that's a little too cute. That's too cute by half. I don't think that's how organizations typically work.

I have a superlative for you, Mark, which is the awkward superlative, because you are buying in on the Breece Hall running back to Bill's hype train that's rolling. Just yesterday on our show, I completely dismissed that. with gravitas. Is it awkward for me or for you? I think for both of us. I think it puts us at loggerheads late in the first round. Tough place to be.

I like that idea for the bills, though, because I get what you're saying yesterday about, you must address defense, but I'm more like strength on strength. Take this explosive, unstoppable offense and add a piece that might just make them, maybe they would have scored more points in that playoff game they lost versus worrying about the cornerbacks and the safeties.

I like a lot of the picks that you made here at the end. Dotson to the Packard. They usually don't draft small guys, but he would be a good value there. Linderbaum to the Cowboys. They always seem to get like the future All-Pro that falls way too far and that seems to be where Linderbom

might go because he's a center and there's not a lot of center needs Zion Johnson. But I got to zero in on your trade to end this thing. The Saints getting Desmond Ritter in a trade. Unbelievable. What a way to finish. You finish with styles.

You want to, like, a little bit of, like, how does the first round sausage get made? You want to take a quarterback at 32. If you have that need, you get that extra your control as a first round pick. I will. I'll spin it into another reason why the lions who, you know, they need to look for their quarterback as well. They did something rather cunning here. I mean, or I project them to. They allowed the Saints to get back into number 32 and take Ritter.

Who gives the Saints that quarterback who they might have taken higher up, but he's fallen to them, which I think is, which they like and they're willing to move up for him. But the lions in one of my locks, I'll just tell you right now, in round two at number 34, take Matt Corral. Because they don't have to pay that, they don't have that first round money and all that stuff. Now, you don't get the first, you don't get the fifth year option either, but that's, that's tricky for some teams. They're willing to take them in round two. That's quite a risk. I guess they would have to be confident that the Saints weren't taking ridder.

I mean, Corral at 32, but I like that the Lions just picking up picks, making other GMs look like full. Fools. Absolutely fools. And it kind of makes sense because the Saints and the Lions have a lot of shared DNA. Dan Campbell was in New Orleans for a lot. Aaron Glenn was there. And so I think they would get along. They'd be the type of teams that would make a trade.

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Let's do a little 10 o'clock delight for Mark Sessler's locks. Go ahead, Mark. Run down the list. All right. Baker Mayfield to the Seahawks for a fourth rounder is what will happen after all this business ends. After the draft? After the draft. I mean, once we know that they're not taking any quarterback.

Debo Samuel, not traded. A.J. Brown, not traded. I already mentioned. in the Lions, Matt Carell. Can I just stop? Yes. I'm not buying. I think Debo could still be on the move.

I think he will be traded, but. Well, the Niners are saying, clearly, we're not trading them. They're not. They don't see them into it. I just don't know if the Niners actually hold the cards. I just went with my feelings on that. The Titans will move into Chicago's spot at number nine and take Sam Howell quarterback in a trade.

The Jets in round two take Nikobi Dean, linebacker out of Georgia. I love his feet, and he really, a good bender. Then Gang Green, I love this for them. Three picks later at number 38, take Tyler Smith, offensive tackle, who surprisingly slipped out of round one. I like that. A lot of focus on the jets. A little Makai.

Well, you know, it's in up to Dan. Curring in favor to some degree. It's also, this is a lot of draft value for gangrene. It's a huge draft for them. The Colts, we know they need a wide receiver. I think they get value at round two at number 42 at a Skymore at a Western Michigan. And then Cleveland in a trade with the G-Men. Move up to number 36 and take Georgia wide receiver.

George Pickens. How will you feel about that, Mark? I will observe it, and I already, you know, there's very little feeling. I just think it might be a steel. That was a test. Yeah. It was a test. You passed it.

You aced it. He aced this whole thing, but. I feel like Pickens might. If he was healthy, he had a torn ACL that he missed most last year. He might be the number one wide receiver in this glass. Well, I mean, and meanwhile, and I know it's a new brain trust, but it just goes to show you, like, the Giants. What a free fall.

Like, they're shopping Cadarius Tony. He just drafted him in the first round last year. Now you're trying to trade him. He looked, I know he didn't produce that much, but he moves more like, he moves more like everyone always compares people to Tyree Kill. And it's always stupid, I think. But Cadarius Tony moves more like Tyree Kill in the way that he just moves different and more explosive and faster than all the NFL players around him.

More than almost anyone I've seen since. There's a lot of red flags there. But man, I think if you're the chiefs, you'd be like a, a team like that. Who's got bigger red flags that Tyree Kill? I mean, that makes me think. Maybe if the Giants are desperate to turn the page, perhaps they could secure Tony and see if he could play the guitar at Arrowhead.

I read that Tony was back with the Giants now and doing things with them. Now, I don't know. He's back lifting weights and whatnot. I like what you did, though, Mark, just playing the game in terms of the mocks. You had a lot of very specific player team comments. No one's going to expect you to nail those. But when you happen to hit on one of them, let's say Nikobe Dean goes to the Jets, you just highlight that. That's all takes.

You put it out on Twitter, copy paste, I'm a genius. Passive income. See you in September. That's called a mailbox money. Scissor. Great job, Mark. Excellent work on the mock draft. And remember, the goal is on 32.

out of 32 nobody does it but if you can just get nine or ten and take out Norris who is the who's the king you know what do they call him he's the he's the he's the king of mountain or is it the fucking king of mountain if you could take him out you will be on top then I become that you are that person

I think it's a good thing to me I think one of the two sounded better than the other but yes yes you're the good the better one you uh also though if you lose to him you could be replaced by him just during draft season

but you know could just be like hey let's get Norris more in the middle that's on my mind too that's why I again I put a solid I mean I really put a solid hour plus into this overall exercise all right good stuff any other questions Greg you have no I

I want to hear more was what was happening by 530 a.m because at that point you're locked and loaded and you just got some time to kill in a dark house I have a I wrapped I wrapped the exercise by then fell into like REM sleep and had a dream that I was falling off a building. And one last note, again, Greg, this is building the brand.

It's not just the Marks Sussler brand. Absolutely. It reflects on all of us. It's the ATN brand. If Mark goes one gets one right, the whole podcast looks like hell. We need, we want that success. We need you. You are carrying us on some level through this draft process.

So your win is our win. and your loss is going to affect all. I don't love the sound of that. Remember the beach, Mark? The film. Two sets of, no, footprints. Oh, right. All of a sudden, one set of footprints.

Jesus, where'd you go? Oh, bro, that was, those were my foot. I was carrying. Right, sure. That's you right now. I'm carrying you or you're carrying me. Yeah. Well, you're carrying both of you.

Bet your ass. One of each hand. Or you drop us. Right in the water. You falter. Well, we'll find out what happens. All right. We'll circle back on Saturday.

All right. I mean, I love it. Steaks are sky high, baby. They're huge. Are you awake and wiggling around in my arms, or you just sort of like sack of potatoes over each shoulder? Whatever is going on in your REM cycle is what's happening. My favorite thing about this mock is like on Thursday evening when, you know,

before draft week, we're like, oh, what are we going to do for draft week? I was like, oh, yeah, we've got Mark Sessler mock draft. And then a little double dip for the ages. other thing that happens? We're like, oh yeah, spice rack. Coming up next. Stay tuned. Being a parent is basically a juggling act. Dinner, hockey practice, homework, a last minute science project, and someone's always, always shouting for you from another room. So yeah, I'll take any shortcuts that actually works. And that's why I'm all in on Hello Fresh. Fresh ingredients, super easy recipes and over 80 options every week so everyone eats. No one complains and I get to feel like

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Lenovo, Lenovo. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team-building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.

Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die-hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us now from the west side of Cincinnati. It's a tradition like, no other. Some people call him Bradley Allen Spicer.

Some people might know him as Spice underscore Rack underscore MD. But we know the man as Spice Rack. And he's back with his draft predictions. What's up, Spicey? Gentlemen, it's good to see. You see you. Spicey. It is great to see you.

You're on the Skype. You're the only guest we've ever had in Skype that's clapped to get fired up multiple times before we. Fired up, baby. I'm fired up. Of course, you're a long time old friend of our great friend, Chris Wesleyan. We're here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. And you were the original Desert Consigliere. And now the draft is in Las Vegas.

Your old home and you're in Cincinnati. Maddie, I feel like that's not right. You should be there. I feel like it's not right either. I would love to be hosting you guys around Vegas right about now. Can I make one note that Spicy is getting more handsome? Hard to argue. I'll leave it right there.

I just, I'm noticing that right now. It looks good. We've mentioned many times that the first time meeting Spice Rack was disarming. Because he's like a six-foot-five guy with, nice head of salty salt gray hair it's a whole thing maybe now not when we first met it's

nah it's been coming on like a freight train Zusser salt on top of pepper from what I'm seeing yeah but in a good way all right spicy before we get into because you love the college game and you know it at a level that we can't even begin to fathom but I do want to just

touch base about the lead up to the Super Bowl and your beloved bangles and nearly taking Lombardi home and also you making almost like a threat that you better be on the podcast that didn't come to fruition. Are there any hard feelings on the spice

rack side toward the pod? Yes, absolutely. They're only directed at you. I was going to ask. And I'm shocked to you. I had the nerve to bring it up right now. But yes, of course, I'm upset. Of course. I would think, how about this? There's no excuse.

Who do you? This isn't like the old days when it's a week, you know, between championship game at Super Bowl. Right. Two weeks. Could have found some time for Spice. Can I, can I just throw in one thing? Can I throw in one thing?

I had angles. Who do you, who do you text with by far the most with on this, uh, right here at this table? Uh, the, all right. So we got triple G first. No doubt about it. Sure. Uh, sess, the cess man.

Sure. Is next. And you are a non-existent. Aside from. aside from baseball postseason. I feel like that's the only connection we have outside of this. So if you and I have less of a connection

than Greg and Mark, why is it then my fault? Your buddy Gregi, who you guys are constantly going back and forth about things that I don't even want to know about, read between the lines on that, why isn't he taking the reins and making sure you get on the Super Bowl?

It's a very fair point. Why am I taking the heat when your actual buddy, Greggie, didn't make sure it happened. I'll tell you why. Because when I, when I threw it out there, about nine seconds after the Bengals beat the Chiefs in the AFC championship game.

You know, the most early and on time and ahead of schedule I've ever been in my entire life. I reached out and you, you squashed it immediately. It's true. I mean, he sent it to the group and you squashed it. You squashed it immediately. It was over. How about this?

How about this? I bet I can't let's scroll back on the old. I love the fire inside of spicy. It is adorable. I mean, not adorable. I can't believe Dan, like Dan, wow, there. Dan, bring that up right now. I got it.

I'm looking at it right now. He's trying to throw you off your game to make your graph prospects worse. Tony and let it happen. It says this is Spice Rec, minutes after the Bengals shocked the world to advance the Super Bowl 56. Spice rack demanding 30 minute segment on Bangle slash West between now and Super Bowl 56 or delete my contact info and I responded we can promise you the Bengals will get extensive coverage across the next two weeks at no point at no point that I said that you would not be involved in the nonsense is that I'm not going to beg what do you think

this is the most important thing in my life yeah that is a trash response by the way you demanded But I thought, I thought for sure, I had a lot to offer. Let's be real. I won by Eddie Brown, Jersey to school in 1988, you know, right before the Bengals lost Super Bowl 23. I offer some perspective here. You need to go answer the landline? Ridicrous. In fairness, though, we're all adults here, Dan.

That was, we're all adults. That was as nice of a slapdown as possible by you. It was no other way to read. It was a power play. It was a power play. It was a power play. Either Greg or Mark, your beloved Mark, ever said, hey, let's get spicy on the show.

At no point did it even come up. Mark is not to blame on this situation. That's because I saw the slap that. I was like, dang, Dan went hard immediately. And by the way, I'm not stepping into this. You're asking, does the old Zusser mind wearing the black hat? I do not mind wearing the black hat. If you want me to be the bad guy, I'll be the bad guy.

But I will tell you that's your favorite thing in the whole world to be to wear the black hat. By no means that I want you not to be involved with that show. It just wasn't an option because we were on radio row all week. It was just, there was never really a window. And guess what? Are you nuts? Guess what? Are you nuts right now?

Are you nuts? Spicey. Guess what? You didn't start the podcast last week. Why do it? Why does that point? You have some say in the what goes on. Spicy.

How dare you bring this up? But let me say this, spicy. If the Bengals. What about that left guard from Boston College? If the Bengals get that stop. If the Bengals get that stop in L.A. You're on the show, Super Bowl night. I promise you, I swear on the lives of my children, you're on that show.

I tell you what, I might have been too drunk for broadcast. Right, that's, it's part of the reason why, I might not, you, I took your demand, spicy, his demand, when I read it, I, I figured it was from a man who had been enjoying, uh, the greatest win in, in Cincinnati sports in, in quite a long time. And spicy, just to put it, just to underline it here, bumming me out right now, season for the ages. Seasons for the ages. Great season for the ages. And this is, I think, your fifth appearance on the Draft Show.

And we love having you every year. That could not be true. Now, let's transition. No, I'm saying it goes. No, no, no, I'm saying in terms of, I've been doing a lot more than five years. Really? Well, time flies. Well, the Melvin-Gordon years when we started that, so.

What year was at 16? I trust spicy on this front. I don't know. All right. A lot more hits than misses. A lot more. Good luck getting a word and edgewise on this show, please. All right, let's get into it, Spicey.

I want to know. That's the other thing. I'd much rather talk to Sessler alone. I've said that for a long time, and I mean it. Let's get into the draft prospects. Yes, go for it. We can keep texting. This is a disaster right now.

It's not on you. It is not on you. Hang in there, Spice. Give us the guy you're standing on the table for first, among all these draft prospects that Spicey's higher on than anyone else. I can sit this out if you guys want me to leave and you guys can't handle it.

I don't think that you're sitting this out. We've covered plenty of real estate on your concern. Going forward, I could excuse myself. No, I'd love to say take a hike right now, but I know how you get me back. All right. Give us the name. Who are you starting with, Spicey?

I love you. Well, I'll say that Greg, you know, already sort of, you mentioned my, my strongest take. And, but, you know, as far as the Ritter thing, and I don't want to, it's much more fun to talk about guys you believe in. Go positive. Let's go positive.

I know you don't like that's, yeah, yeah. That's fine. You're a Cincinnati guy. So you've watched him a ton and you're not a fan. Let's go positive. Who do you like? Well, if we're talking, if we're talking quarterback, I think there's one that's clearly ahead of everyone else, and that's Matt Corral.

Clearly, clearly ahead of everyone else. Obviously, the class isn't great. and between Malik Willis' arm strength and athleticism, he's worth a shot for a franchise that's going nowhere. He won't, I mean, he's, you know, he's a much better athlete than say like Jalen Hurts, and Jailen Hurts is a very good athlete. You know, I mean, Malik Willis can really move.

And he's got a stronger arm, he'll probably lead the league in interceptions, not trying to pile on him. He's worth a roll of the dice for a franchise that ain't doing nothing. But, you know, Matt Corral, I think, is a guy who, you know, you worry about his frame because in the open field, he's a good runner, but in the open field, he looks for contact. Sliding's got to be part of the deal immediately, but he stands in there and takes it on the chin because he looks to throw deep. And his frame

is just, you worry about it, being able to stand up. But he's a good athlete. He can squirt away, he's out of trouble. And, I mean, he'll square up and flick 160 yards, no problem. Spicy. He's always looking deep first. So, you know, I just like the guys that'll roll the dice. I don't want safe and steady. You know, Jalen Hurts is safe and steady. How far are you ever going to go with him? He seems more like a backup quarterback and a coach someday.

But, you know, Matt, you know, Matt, I already picked on Jalen Hurts twice now, but. You compared Ritter to Andy Dalton, which is a bad word. I said like some. So Carrell is going to go for it a little more. Yeah. Oh, no doubt about it. He'll let it rip. And I mean, you know, you'll hear people talk about he has.

had, you know, some bad turnover. He really just had, like, a couple of bad games, you know, where, like, when he had three interceptions, it was kind of like, F it, I'm, you know, who cares if I throw a fourth or a fifth, and, you know, that's not the goal, but it's, you know, there's something, I don't know if I'd call it admirable, but, like, he's going to let it rip, you know, like, he's going to, he'll let it rip. So, uh, their ability is an issue with him. What's so spicy.

I see, I see him as a, is a better prospect than. I mean, because, you know, people, people say that, you know, like one of the knocks on him is, is a, holy moly, Lane Kiffin's offense, sort of by design, you know, but, hey, you throw an accurate deep ball and you're never looking to go safe and steady. I don't care what offense you play, because he's the type of player who extends plays. I mean, he's quick, he's athletic, he plays off script. I think he was leading the SEC and rushing going into, like, November, you know, and this isn't Cam Newton or Tim. Tebow was a big physical presence of the goal line. He's like 6-1-19. I don't know what he measured at the combine, but, you know, he's not physically

impressive dude, but yeah, I like him most of the quarterbacks for sure. I'm not trying to be odd, like, Nolan Naraki here, but like there, he is the one quarterback where there is a lot of press about the off-the-field version of Matt Corral where someone said the problem start the minute you give him a million dollars. There's a lot of unresolved stuff going on with him. So I guess the fit would really matter where he lands. You don't want to go to some wandering. franchise that's going to be in and out of coaching hires

Naraki taking a stray in a big spot. Boom. Well, I mean, I think we know, you know, he's, he generates headlines for some of his criticism. I don't know Matt Carrell, but that's out there. Does it concern you? Are you just, just fair enough, because I can't, I can't really list any quarterbacks who, I mean, you got, that's, that's a full year, you know,

that's a, that's a real mature job. You can't really. Hey, Spike. Maybe you find me any of the Johnny Mansells or, you know, Vince Young. you know, I don't think took things too seriously. A bunch of other guys who were kind of, you know, guys who didn't even really get dressed up losing my mom. Chad Kelly, you know, Sessler's guy.

You don't, you don't run another. Coltranon very sad story, but he, you know, those guys who kind of screw around and don't think they'll take things too seriously. I don't know. Spicy. I want to, I want to cycle back to a tweet that you have highlighted on your Twitter account from our great friend. Talk to me.

Chris Wessling. I remember, this is from March 2018. I remember a conversation more than a decade ago when Spice Rack called Antonio Cromarty, one of the most naturally gifted athletes he'd ever seen on a football field. Cromarty had a really, really good career in the NFL. Cromarty was big.

What made him really, not only it was incredibly athletic, he had size, he was 6-2-2-10, and now you got this guy, this Cincinnati kid, Soss Gardner, he's 6-3, he's 190. Do you see any Cromarty-esque ability? obviously he's a physical match do you think he has that type of ceiling well I'll tell you what

he's got the yes absolutely and I'll tell you what he has the that same that same you know like that that same look in a uniform like this guy's just a stud you know it's like looks like Tarzan

plays like Tarzan you know I mean like some somebody Chromardi was like that Sean Taylor was like that Patrick Peterson was like that and I'm talking You know, like they just stood out. I mean, South Gardner, like, a lot of games, the ball wasn't even going his way, but he still found a way to stand out. Like, this guy's just, just a stud. You know, I'm surprised. I think, like, some of his testing stuff wasn't, like, off the charts, which kind of surprised me. But, you know, the comparison is just that big athlete that's just, like, just smooth. Like, you could, you could see him being good at anything, multiple positions, multiple sports, like, just a real smooth guy. Like, when I saw early in the year, you know, someone's mock draft or a top 50 or whatever, it will come your way. And you see him being picked in the mid-20s, like, hell no.

I just don't see it. I mean, he's, he's a, he's a ball player. He's probably going top five. He looks at this point. Yeah, I mean, it's. Give us some of your rapid fire maybe. I know, you know, you know, offense, like who's going to be lighting up Sundays that you're excited about running backs, receivers, those type of players. Well, you know, I mean, receivers as far as.

as I'm concerned is like this is the that first generation where we're looking at like all the guys grow up now playing receiver it's it's you get paid more it's safer you know there those enforcers aren't in the middle of field running backs get the shaft so that's where guys always play running backs and a lot of times they you know they'd be stubborn and they wouldn't want the position change I just feel like all these guys coming out there's just going to be so many more hits than misses almost every year now I just think that's a position um Because you look at, like, what Chase and then Jefferson right before that, even like Beckham when he first, it was never, ever like that in the NFL that a rookie would come in. Even during passing booms, you wouldn't see rookies, like, really just blow up. And I just think we're seeing a lot more of those guys. Give us your favorites, though. Jehan Dodson. I think we'll have to move to the slot, but he's the guy I like most. I think he's like just a bust proof player.

That's a big take. I mean, he's not going in the first round in a lot of the months. his pro comp to you. I like Tyler Boyd with upside, you know, but like I think he, he's more in the slot, but he'll hit home runs or like chunk plays. He was a one-man team at Penn State. He was the only guy who could do anything. So I know he was at the top of every scouting report.

And man, he busted open big plays. Little like Elijah Moore, where he's a small guy that's going to play outside. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But yeah, John Dotson, I like a lot. But all these receipts, I mean, Skymore I love. I mean, I see no way he's not going to be a hell of a ball player. Metchy, you know, his injury situation, but I think he's a stud.

I know Saban loves him. And I thought he was more the guy, even than Jameson Williams. But like, that's a good sleep. Yeah, I mean, I think all these guys are good. I really don't have someone that I would even knock. They obviously, some will bust or whatever, but, you know, just a high hit rate anymore with receivers. The tight end I love is Greg Dulchich. You're not hearing a lot about tight ends this draft class.

No, not loaded, but, you know, that I feel like that's a position like these guys, the like the receiving, not the not the blocking receiving hybrid tight end, but like just those receiving tight ends. A lot of them coming to the league, you know, good and ready to go. Nice hair too. you know from one hair you know hair aficionado to another dulcet i i'd see i want the bangles to grab him so much in the second round if he's available i get i get these like uh brent jones dallas clark type vibes with him and both of those guys played with extremely accurate quarterbacks steve young and peyton manning but mostly like knew where to go with the ball who's your who's your jonathan williams memorial table pounder oh yeah that's that's

That's like a late pick. You really stood for Jonathan Williams. Jonathan Williams, of course, the running back out of the bills, fifth round pick. Spicy pounded the table. Didn't work out, but it's a dart throw, obviously. There's a lot more going on that day. Who is the guy that people aren't talking about that you feel reasonably confident is going to be a player? Jeez, Louise.

You had to know the question is coming, Spicy. Yeah, well, you know, usually, like, you can always find a quarterback who, uh, Cole McDonald famously, you were a big fan. Old McDonald. He was the, he was the first guy cut. I don't even think he made it the camp. I don't even think he made it the camp. Oh, no. I forgot about old McDonald. All right. So obviously there's going to be more misses than hits here. Who is, who's going to change a trajectory here? Well, this annoyed spicy. First of all. Oh, yeah. I understand that. One million percent. I'm also annoyed that I barely heard Sessler's voice.

I'll call you on the star of the show. I'll call you on the phone one-on-one. Ask one. Ask the final question then, Mark. Mark, the floor is yours, buddy. I want to hear the answer to this one. He clearly doesn't have one. Well, yeah, spicy doesn't always answer.

Sometimes you've got to just keep moving. Sometimes he's more evasive than Johnny Depp on the stand. Well, how about this? I'll tell you, I'll give you two guys from the University of Cincinnati. Okay. who were so sort of not by no means off the radar. They'll probably like day three type, maybe late day two picks. But Alec Pierce, the wide receiver.

Oh, yeah. He's a home run hitter. He's not going to be Johnny Possession receiver. All right. And I don't think you're going to throw him the ball a ton. But he's a home run hitter. One thing watching Ritter, I was thinking the rest of their receivers are terrible. But Alec Pierce is a baller.

yeah he's he's he's he's he's the truth and he's tall and so uh you know uh i mean he's he's a hell of an athlete he can sort of go up and get it again you're not going to build your offense around this guy but uh you know that number two receiver who will catch a couple long ones and stretch the field the other guy is is uh uh a sauce gardener's cornerback teammate Kobe Bryant okay um he he he's already a chip on the shoulder type player it's pretty clear he sort of plays with that edge but i mean imagine this guy just won the jim thorpe award for the nation's defensive back or you know best defensive back um unquestionably the only guy i in in Cincinnati bearcat history to do so

and like no one even mentioned his name or mentioned that because he happens to share the exact same position with the best defensive player in the history of that school you know and and like he saw a lot of action he was always game i mean he's he's a hell of a player um i could see him being a you know like a you know and maybe maybe more in the slot or or just like playing i he's a guy i want on the field for sure so both those guys they could be like second third you know maybe more like third round picks um i'm i'm kind of like i yeah i i like both those guys for sure all right do you have something no all right let me before we say goodbye he's going to give you a call before you say goodbye i want a sandwich prop from spicy oh i thought you were

i got i got i got a quadruple whammy uh sandwich pro all right let's hear it my okay uh there's four parts of this uh uh first ever first ever 14 parley as a sandwich i'll take it yeah i'll take it too i'll wait and see my my connection with uh march sessler will intensify over the next however long to the end of the season. Hubba, hubba. Okay. My connection with Greg

will gradually increase. Okay. Gradually. Okay. It was just steady Eddie, Greg, like we've been going, buddy. And then Dan, our relationship

will fall off a cliff. That's where we're at. now that's tough i hope that i hope that's not that has it not already tumbled off a clip all right what's the i i'm very content contention contention is brewing uh and then ricky and i will stay the exact same which is to say uh zero relationship that's that's from now mark the clock until the end of the football season i texted you i don't think i can take you on this because this sounds um spot on i mean that you're accurate i think And you control half of this.

I always pick what I'm rooting for, and I want to see this be the moment that actually, instead of breaking you and Dan apart, brings you together. So I'll take you on it. I want to take it as a challenge, yeah. I'm going to mend the fences with spicy. I'm going to win a sandwich prop and gain a friend in the process. That's how I feel. But Spicy, I want you to be sussing out the idea. Is Dan reaching out to you more and with more frequency because it's to win a sandwich?

it's false, or do you feel those real feelings of friendship? You have to weigh in on that with all of us. Or internally. I'd be happy to lose this one. I would love nothing more. And also for your own sanity, just don't wait

by the phone for Mark to call you. It's not going to happen. Well, I got to tell you, I got to speak for yourself. Yeah, I don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate the cynicism. Shoot me a text when you get the phone call. Mark and I have a very a specific and understood relationship.

And I just want to keep it, I just want to keep growing it. Even in the past, you know, 24 hours, we've been texting about a novel that we both read that we thought needs to be created into film form. So I don't know where Dan's coming with that black view of the world. Don't hold your breath, that's all. Negative.

We don't need. What do I need from you? Mark and I, we're, I mean, the bond is, it's getting stronger. And I want to see it. It's about to intensify. according to you. Yes.

All right. Spice vacuum. You've said it all. Thanks, Spicy. Thank you, buddy. There he goes. Spice, well, I, you know,

I texted Spicy yesterday, and I said, hey, do you want to do a sandwich prop? Again, that's an olive branch. Do you want to be more involved with the show? And that's what he came back with. It was on Brando.

Well, I fired up about some of these things. Either it shows his ability to change on the fly and come up with a, you know, I found very, humorous sandwich prop. We've never had one like that before.

I guess that I prefer that. Or he had nothing planned than he just went with that. That's possible too, but either way. And he had no old McDonald All-Star, which that was a little disappointed about that too. But other elements of their appearance I really didn't enjoy. I mean, I think he brings an unhinged element and so to not be prepared for the Cole

McDonald 2.0 pick is mixed total sense. He liked Corral. That was a hot take of these receivers. I haven't heard it. I feel like no one likes Matt Corral except Chris Sims likes Matt Corral. That's about it. He liked Jahan Dotson, best of all the receivers. That's a pretty hot take, maybe 7.3th on average on most sports. And then he liked the two Cincinnati guys, Kobe Bryant.

You know, maybe it's the name that just people are. Kobe with a C though. It's with a C. And a Y. That would bother me. He won the Jim Thorpe Award and no one's even talking about him. And he might be like a day two or three. Listen, I'm not about to speak on the Cincinnati Barricad football.

No. when the arguably the best cornerback in the country is locking down the other half of the field. I would feel like even if Kobe was great, some people are going to say, well... I guess that shows a great mentality, though. You know you're going to get a lot of balls. You're going to get picked on.

You're across the street from across the field from the top 10 pick, and you compete enough to get that sort of national recognition. That's the type of player you want. All right. On the shoulder. All right. So there you have it.

Good app. Spicey. We are now getting on airplanes. And I don't know if it's the same airplane or what. But we're all heading to Las Vegas for the 2022 NFL draft first round. We'll be there, I guess, kind of backstage or something. I don't know what the setup is. But we'll be there.

We're going to talk to some of the first round picks. We're going to, of course, give you the night of the round one. We'll have a recap show that will get up to you as soon as possible. So make sure you check that out. Like I said, we'll also have the Saturday night recap. that will be a rundown of everything that happened the week that was and the draft that was. So be there for that. So a lot of good content.

A lot of good content. Any final words? Mark, the floor is yours. I've already said enough. I mean, I've presented my mock draft. Now I let my deep research, my processes, and, you know, months of looking at the overall landscape of the NFL speak for itself. And I think it's fair to say Josh Norris is nervous. I think he would.

I think he should be. I think we should make this a tradition that the mock and spicy are together. It's a chaotic show. Nice mix. A chaotic energy. I think he's, you know, spice rack. Humans, they're fascinating creatures here. I think the same reason why I enjoy these spice rag segments so much is the exact same reasons Dan is uncomfortable with them.

I, me, uncomfortable? I'm enjoying it. I enjoy the discourse with spicy. I hope we can mend the relationship. I hope so. And if it gets worse, that's good, too. I mean, we still don't know this. The kernel of this occurred in Las Vegas years ago.

I don't think we'll ever know that. Well, you do. I don't truly know. But maybe that's the seed of everything. I mean, it certainly went south from there. Maybe if you are like iced tea and lemonade, we're like oil and water, one of those things. things.

That's just one of those things. You just got to write it off. You're not always going to be best friends with them. You don't fit together. No. That's okay. But you are increasingly getting closer with him, so that's good. You don't, but you don't believe in it, though.

You don't buy into it, but that's okay. Right. You won't be calling him, though. Be honest. We've spoken on the phone multiple times. It's not, I don't know why you assume that I'm just going to not. I mean, in fairness, and to throw it back to, you know, Tuesday show, where you, where you did the play acting of the call.

There's not a lot of phone calls going on in the year 2020. I'm factoring that in as well. People in their 30s and 40s and whatnot. I factor that in as well, my prediction. All right, go home. All right, let's go. We'll see you in Vegas. Until then.

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