NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Franchise Tag Primer & Connie Fox Sweepstakes
Episode Date: February 18, 2020A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler & Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the latest news around the NFL including Drew Brees coming back to the Saints for 2020 (9:02), rumors that t...he Raiders are willing to pay Tom Brady big (19:06) and go over some releases and reports that Lev Bell isn't in shape in some 8 o'clock delight. (26:52). The heroes go through a Franchise Tag primer (34:51) before sampling 5 of the best **so far** Connie Fox sweepstakes songs. (47:30).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
My name is Dan Hansus coming to you from Room for.
filled with heroes. Mark Sessler to my left.
Greg Rosethal to my right.
What is that, boys?
Well, Wes is not here, so we have no one to fill the voice.
And I'm, by the way.
I'm going to wait at another hour.
Nobody said anything.
I thought it would have been fun to really, after we had a second or two of it,
I thought this might be fun to just see how long it goes.
But, you know, oh, Mark, look at me.
Well, no, that is not.
I'm the one that, you know, I moved out of my normal seat for the first time.
in, what, 1,200 shows?
What a selfless move.
Terrible sitting here.
I don't feel comfortable at all.
You really don't have to.
This is an audio program today.
We're not taking anything.
No, it's not, though, because I always discover that, you know,
and because we have a very creative producer and Erica,
that, you know, an hour later, if someone does anything unsettling,
it's going to be, it will be, as it should be.
Our last episode of the Thursday episode, I had no idea it was on camera,
and then I see a link, and an hour and seven minute podcast was uploading.
it onto the internet.
I didn't know that.
You never know.
You always have to be prepared.
I didn't know that either.
Well, you're wearing a,
you have a very fashionable jacket on Greg.
So you had some inkling that this could happen.
It's like, if Greg's cut back to 1941, December 10th,
Greg's like, get me into this war.
I got to defend.
Greg's clothing budget is probably worth a seg of its own this off season.
Really?
There's constantly like, I'm loving this.
Like a $140 sneakers appearing left and right that no one's ever worn before.
This, I've been told.
Jacket.
Was it $27?
on clearance at Zara.
Who are you told by?
By Emica, who bought it for me?
See, that's the missing link.
Is anyone buying you clothing?
Do you have a significant other buying you?
My wife would like to do it for me,
but it just feels personal to me.
It's not happening to my house.
Not that I would like to actually see
what would be purchased on it.
The money drop said that we are not injury prone.
I went to Big Bear Mountain,
which is a great getaway
if you're a Southern California person.
I'm a great, you know, scenic family-type vibe.
We went there for Wes's bachelor party once in time.
Was this a bachelor party?
No, what was it?
It was just a getaway.
It was a getaway.
I don't recall a family vibe that time.
And I drove past the very log cabin resort that we stayed across from a microbrewery.
And I just remembered, it gave me fond memories of Mr. Sessler
and I carrying Wes back to the lodge, putting him in bed, giving him a glass of water,
and then going into this little mini kitchen and listening to the county crows at like 3 a.m.
And then...
Since Wes isn't here, I'll play his part of it.
That's not how it happened at all.
Well, it is exactly how it happened.
You guys are exaggerating.
It's a forgiving retelling.
And then after probably like midway through recovering the satellites, maybe this desert
life, the crow's 99 offering, we went.
to check on Wes, is he breathing, is he sleeping on his side?
And he had at some point picked up the water, glass of water that we had given him,
and then spilled it over his entire body.
And we were like, did West, did he urinate on himself?
That was the first concern.
Right.
Well, first we're like, is that blood?
No.
What is the dampness?
Oh, it's, is it urine?
No.
Oh, it's the water.
And then he just, he remained passed out for the rest of the night.
And he lived.
And now he's married and he's got a kid on the way.
It's a different time.
He's in Hawaii right now on a baby moon that seems.
to be going very well according to the Graham.
Everyone's got a friend that pisses themselves.
Well, in this case, he did not, though.
No, he did not.
I'm saying that's why he had to check.
Right, right.
It was an immense amount of water.
Had that come out of his body,
I would have been impressed from a whole different side of things.
That's true.
But I was going to say that I went snow tubing with my boys and some friends
and the shoulders barking at the old Zeus right now.
And it's not because I took a spill or anything.
It's just it was rotated in a way that for a man that's nearing 40 years old,
it's the shoulder saying, hey, I'm barking at you because I'm going to need a few days.
You're trying to hold on to two tubes on a snow hill at once.
Right.
I'm hooking maybe Jack's arm as we're going down on the tube.
And it's barking.
That's life.
We're checking all the dad boxes here.
Counting crows, barking shoulders.
Today's show, Greg wrote a banger, didn't get a chance to,
read it. So it's going to be a real-time situation.
I think it went up 15 minutes
before the show started. Right.
It's fresh in email right now. It would have been tough. Good.
I'm covered. So it's essentially a franchise tag
primer. That's right. That's perfect.
Because I have found, and I've
been told for the algorithm on
the dot-com side as
writers for this website, the more teams
that you could write about in a piece,
the more eyeballs and clicks.
And Mark, you know Greg is plugged in on
this stuff. So I'm sure you were excited
to write this piece, knowing that your numbers would spike.
That's something.
I'm all about the numbers right now.
There was a time.
There was a time when I was, when it was part of my job.
Now I'm blissfully unaware.
Well, there was a time when the shadowy leaguers were observing it too.
I was one of those shadowy league figures on some level.
It always made me slightly uneasy getting like the eighth most attractive writing assignment
in the room.
That probably you're not going to dominate metrics.
It's, you know, be concerned.
So we're going to take a look at it.
that and also as I teased last week the Connie Fox sweepstakes it's a theme song we're looking
to get it out there get one that that really defines the essence of Colleen Wolfe
and it will become essentially tied to her for the rest of her time on this earth and I am
excited to tell you guys that when I checked in at the submission site which is the ATM
podcast at gmail.com
over 30 submissions in less than a week.
Some great, some not so great, some okay.
You listen to them all.
I listened to every single one this morning.
And Erica did as well.
And we'll get to that later playing just a few of the ones
that stood out to us.
Erica had the power here to choose the ones that
maybe advanced to the next time.
We're going to do this for the rest of the week
is you're this in terms to get your submission in 30 seconds or less
Colleen will theme song and then we'll close it on Friday after Friday and then
who decides the people right I don't know if we trust I don't know I think we
should put them on our Instagram page we'll let people vote or maybe Twitter and I think
they they will be they get a vote yeah I feel like a pro bowl scenario they will be
taken into consideration but if if we all feel strongly another way but it's it does
seem clear that Colleen has no choice and should probably should not have a choice.
She doesn't get a choice, but she does get to hear it, I think.
Well, that's fine.
Yeah, and in fact, we're going to get her on the phone a little bit later for that.
But before any of that, let's do some news.
Matt, what does this team need to do on offense to get something going here?
We need to change the whole entire game plan at halftime.
What do you need to change about the game plan?
What are you frustrated about?
There's just a lot going on right out now.
It's embarrassing for us here as an offense, so a lot of things we want to fix and correct.
Thanks.
Wow.
This will be the full of our XFL coverage for today's show.
But I just want to know where was this Matt McGloin in the NFL?
Because I love this guy.
He's leaning into it.
And this caused quite a stir.
And I think it is one of the XFL's advantages because I watched a little bit this past weekend.
And they're just grabbing guys like two seconds after they throw like an awful interception
and getting like the raw emotion of their commentary.
And that one, he just, you know, took the offensive coordinator and just like flung him under a moving bus.
And then he got, you know, benched, I believe.
He paid the price.
And the head coach of the team that Matt McGloin plays where I believe it's the New York audience, my hometown team, is Kevin Gilbride.
So for the second time in 25 years, Kevin Gilbride was sucker punched on television.
Oh, good one.
You brought it all back together.
Super Bowl champion Kevin Gilbride.
A lot of Spaggs love.
Wasn't he nice?
You don't hear a lot of Kevin Gilbride love.
He was the OC of the Giants to beat the Patriots.
The 2011 Giants team.
that beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Didn't we interview him and wasn't he a super nice guy, Gilbride?
Or was he not nice?
He is, no, he is very nice guy.
I don't want to make it up.
It's all a haze.
I don't remember anything.
He was in 2012 at this point.
Sat down at a table, interviewed him,
and you kind of wanted him to be a jerk
because Buddy Ryan fought him
and everybody wanted to decide with Buddy Ryan.
But Gilbride seemed like a great dude.
So I'm team Gilbride again.
I pick like the ornery, more ornery aspect of that fight.
I'd go Buddy Ryan, who I'm not sure was ever in a good mood.
All right, let's get into it.
Drew Breeze is coming back.
The Saints quarterback, the NFL's career passing leader.
He will return for a 20th season after an Instagram post today, Tuesday.
Classic Sessler move just posted a photo of a horizon and a beautiful,
some type of a beautiful location.
Hike.
A hike at the top of a mountain.
And he said, he's going to make another run at it.
He turned 41 last month, scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent on March 18th.
but he wants to stay with the Saints or stay nowhere.
So now it's just a matter of getting the money side of it done.
And I don't think that's quite as simple as probably everyone just reading the coverage of this.
It's just like, okay, Drew Breeze is back with the Saints.
Yes, he will be back with the Saints.
I'm not doubting that.
But it's just complicated.
His previous contract negotiations have been very protracted and complicated.
And this one is especially complicated because of all this money that he signed on his last deal.
It was these voids that.
push kind of your salary cap pain into the future.
And now they're probably going to have to do it again.
But whatever he plays for, add $15 million to that.
And that's what the cap it's going to be.
So there's no like, ooh, he's going to help the Saints out this year and take a little
less money.
I mean, maybe he'll figure out as best he can.
But he's probably going to have one of the highest cap figures, if not the highest,
of any player in the entire NFL.
Saints have 9 million in Cap room right now.
Only five teams have less.
I know that that will change drastically.
you can make some moves, but they don't, they're not going to be able to change it that
drastically. Yeah, they don't have as much flexibility as some other teams out there. And there are
some moves that can make Janoris Jenkins. They'll probably figure out there's some guys that
they can cut. But they have a lot of pretty good free agents, Von Bell, being one of them. And
they're a team you would think would want to be loading up this offseason. I don't think it's going
to happen. You basically got to bring back what you have. And especially on defense, there's
some holes there. But why bring, I mean, you bring Breeze back because he's true Breeze, but it
feels like if you're not going to make the biggest push possible.
Oh, yeah.
But they already have, like the roster, it's pretty damn good.
They do this whole thing where they push all this pain into the future.
It's kind of the old Cowboys move and the cap keeps going up.
So it's not even that bad.
But they're going to have to do it even more this year.
The whole uncap situation is confusing.
And it also spells the end of Teddy Bridgewater.
Not that we thought he was going to be back.
But I think the odds are you have Breeze and you have Tassum Hill who will be back on a one-year
restricted free agent contract, most likely, and away you go.
Yeah, and Tom Pelliserro, who, you know, Roto World described as NFL.com's Tom Pelliser.
I feel like he does work there, but I constantly see him on an NFL network, so it feels...
More of a network guy.
A little bit of a slight on there.
I think it was just an error.
I'll clean that up, please.
Yeah, you could go back into the content management system.
Roto Pat, Pat Dardy, if you're out there.
Let's go, Rodopat.
You are the man now.
Is he...
Well, we don't know that officially, but he is one of the men.
I mean, he's been there the longest.
He's one of the greatest fantasy writers in the game.
Great at Twitter.
And he writes the rankings.
So that, to me, who does the rankings?
That's kind of how you know, Dan.
The power ranking, yes.
No, like the fantasy.
No, I do the power rankings at the time here.
So that's where it starts, the chain going on down.
Yeah, it's a similar thing in the Rotarworld.
I agree.
Okay.
Well, that floated away.
Let's move on.
I'm not at all surprised we got to that point, but we got there quickly.
And I just want my final thought on Drew Brees is,
is good job by everybody involved, assuming the deal gets done.
It's smart from a business perspective in the NFL or any sport
to get out a year too soon rather than a year too late.
But Drew Brees, like Tom Brady, these are special cases, I think.
And if they showed anything in the most recent season
and you still think you can get one more year out of this amazing player,
just do it.
And push all your chips into the center and then figure things out later.
I kind of, that's where I said of this.
I would be very disappointed if I was a Saints fan
and they kind of got cute and said,
all right, Taysam, you're our man
or whoever else it would have been.
Bring back.
Well, I'd also argue, yeah.
20th season for-
Totally agree.
I'd argue that two of the best three
or two of the best four Saints teams
of the entire Breeze era are the last two years.
They've had some bad playoff losses,
but those teams have been great.
And one thing, Pelliserro noted, though,
with Taysam Hill,
first or second round tender seems to be what they're going to do with him.
So you're not,
I just don't see another team coming in again
so you're going to get them both
and both quarterbacks have talked about
using on game days
that Taysam Hill would be used a lot more than last year
that's one of the only things I care about
in free agency is what happens to Taysam Hill
the rest of it is just a big flood
of non-essential information
Well it depends
To me. To what prison?
Shots fired at our programming
over the next month and a half
Tason Hills
85% of these players
will fail.
Deasem Hill's free agency
is the only thing
that matters to you
in the NFL right now?
It's like you have to come over
10 things I'm excited about
but it's like that's number one
and then it's a deep.
Nothing about the Browns
your favorite team?
It's just only whether or not
Taysa Mill.
Well, if anything I have
extra armor up after last off season
to not even look at what they do
and I hope they do nothing.
I would like to see them do literally nothing.
I saw Steve Weish Day
and he was kind of grumbling.
It's like, well, just talking about
Taysam Hill.
It's like we can't talk about
Taysam Hill enough
but it's because of people
like you out there.
I am hardly behind generating more hoopla in the off-season.
That is the new Steve Young, Tason Hill.
Teddy Bridgewater, by the way, ESPN's Jeremy Fowler reported, Bridgewater,
expected to have a, quote, strong market in free agency, which I guess makes sense.
But even then, I'm just like, is it?
Is it going to be that strong for Teddy?
And he could land a multi-year deal paying it, and this is where it gets crazy,
paying him around $30 million per year.
Now, just to put that in perspective, Drew,
Breeze, the last contract he signed with the Saints and maybe slightly below value,
but two years, 50 million.
That's 25 doing the math, nailed it.
So Teddy Bridgewater, what have I seen?
What have you seen?
Was anybody seen that this guy should be paid like a star quarterback?
Because 30 million star money.
Tough situation.
Tough situation.
For Fowler, the reporter and Bridgewater, because the second this came out,
immediately everyone's response was just like, don't believe it.
Stop it.
Don't believe it.
Well, I mean, Fowler's nailed, like, one thing after the now.
He's been right about a lot of things.
He's getting this information.
Put the nail on his foot on this one.
He's getting the information from somewhere.
So maybe he does, maybe there is one team out there.
And the price seems awfully high.
But maybe there's one team out there that is truly very interested in Teddy.
Some mystery team out there.
Right.
I think it's got to be like the strong market does not mean eight teams because there's a supply and demand issue.
And I think the best case thing for him is,
the Breeze and Brady
stay home with their current teams
and then Rivers goes somewhere
that had no interest in Teddy Bridgewater
and then there's...
Let's say the Colts.
There's still three or four teams out there.
Not really, though.
Not really.
But what about the Chargers?
Unless someone wanted to replace
a guy that's there.
Maybe it's, you know, maybe it's
like if Tampa just for,
you know, for some reason they love Teddy Bridgewater
and no one knows it.
Maybe that's possible.
The Patriots, I thought he would be the perfect guy.
You know, Foxborough fans would be tough on him,
but I thought he would make sense if Brady actually left.
But this number is so high.
He was a free agent last year, and no one really wanted him.
Everyone's all like, whoa, he got one of the highest backup.
Yeah, that was for $7 million.
It's like no one really wanted him last year.
Now they're going to want him.
I don't get it.
He did a good job with the Saints, but what they asked him to do in that offense
doesn't suddenly tell me he's worth five more than he was last off season.
He's possibly the new Alex Smith,
and Alex Smith eventually did get some big contracts.
But I feel like Teddy's not there where he would.
What if the Panthers moved on from Cam Newton and had nothing under center?
Go ahead.
I mean, my point from last week, it's like, so you're going to, you're so anxious to get rid of Cam Newton and Charlotte that I'm going to now give Teddy Bridgewater two years for $50 million or something.
I think it hit us all the same way.
I think Teddy is a very good NFL quarterback in the sense that it's hard to find guys who hit guys that are open and don't make mistakes.
You could squint and you could see at worst he's Andy Dalton and Andy Dalton's gotten paid.
But 30 million seems outrageous.
All right.
Speaking of $30 million contracts, Larry Fitzgerald Senior.
We know Larry Sr.
Run into him a few times.
Remember the Super Bowls?
I've seen him just sitting on a chair, folding chair,
in the middle of the winning team locker room.
Yep.
Waiting for the story to come to him because Larry, maybe that's...
He's been in the game for a long time.
He pops up.
It's like every nine months, there's like a late...
You know they have the Woge bombs.
Yeah.
You got a Fitz Senior bomb.
I mean, it's more like...
Do the bombs land?
Like once a year.
Because Woj bombs always land.
And I don't know.
You know apparently the background of Larry Fitch senior.
We've been covering this sport for a long time, all of us.
And I feel like there's about one Larry Fitzbaum a year.
He does have someone.
I haven't checked on the trajectory.
There's definitely a mouthpiece somewhere coming to him.
Because if I sat or you sat in the middle of the Super Bowl winning locker room on a folding chair,
no one's coming to me with a game breaking story.
seems to happen to him.
I feel like we all have to do a little more research, Greg.
You need to find out if these bombs hit.
I need to go read some of these gamers from these Super Bowls
where he was just sitting in the middle of the locker.
Maybe he ended up with an amazing piece out of it.
I wouldn't doubt that at all.
Anyway, Lyra Fitz Sr., he has been, quote, told the Raiders are prepared to offer
Tom Brady a two-year $60 million contract.
So Teddy Bridgewater money for Tom Brady potentially from the Raiders.
But again, Larry Fitz, not known as senior, not known as a newsbreaker.
But like Mark said, maybe somebody's getting something out there through the old man.
I don't know.
Am I buying this at all?
Well, ESPN, who, you know, you try to save your best stuff for like Super Bowl morning
if you've got any good, you know, kernels out there.
What was that old?
Comeback Colonels.
We did Comeback Colonels with Mark Sessler.
Wish we had that on the board.
Do we have that on the board by any chance?
All right, let's add that in pose.
Come back Colonels with Mark Sessler.
Come back Colonels with Mark Sessler.
Come back Colonels with Mark Sessler.
Come back colonels with Mark Sessler.
Come back colonels with Mark Sessler.
Come back colonels.
with Mark Sessler
Come back, Colonel
with Marksessler.
You know, Adam Schaefter reported Super Bowl
Morning that the Raiders would be the team
that would go in on Tom Brady.
So it's not totally out of left field.
But the Patriots, I think,
one thing that's been lost,
and Tom Kern wrote a good piece this weekend about it,
they're not worried about other teams
kind of dipping in on Tom Brady.
Because if he reaches free agency,
I think it's already over.
And I think they're not going to get
in some crazy bidding war.
with any team out there, no matter what these floating reports are.
I buy the Raiders thing whenever it seems to trickle up into the news
because it makes, if you're at any team shifting to new locations,
and Derrick Carr is perfectly serviceable and works,
but it's hard to market around a bunch of the NFL quarterbacks out there.
Derrick Carr, I would say, is just tough to market around to a new Las Vegas fan base.
Brady, if you're an owner, Tom Brady,
Gruden seems like he dig Tom Brady in the experience of coaching him, number one.
and it just automatically guarantees nonstop sellouts and endless attention in a new market,
which the Raiders probably will get anyways because that fan base will go anywhere.
I always, anytime these pop up, I just think of Derek Carr's reaction to them.
Because he didn't event, I think one week after the Super Bowl, just a couple days.
It was sort of under the radar, but I'm going to remember this,
where he spoke with a bunch of other Raiders players
and Mark Davis at the opening of the stadium.
And he was very open about how annoyed he was
and was blaming the media, being like,
you know, what more do you got to do basically
to have this stuff stop coming out?
And like every time this comes out,
he's getting more and more annoyed.
Sounds like a great opportunity for a The Players Tribune column
just blasting the media.
This is me speaking to you, the fans.
The real story.
The real story.
from me, you know, who could assign that associate editor, Derek Jeter.
I thought he sold that.
You think he's doling out stories to be told me?
He's like, get on this.
He's in there at the nine o'clock media.
All right, what's our plan today for the car story?
Nine o'clock, no, he's in at 6 a.m., the big cup of coffee.
All right, speaking, all right, so those are some quarterbacks in the end of their careers, Brady and Breeze,
Teddy, not so much, but one guy just starting.
is Joe Burrow, the LSU star, the coming off the undefeated season, the national championship,
the Heisman Trophy.
Well, he was receiving another award, the Davey O'Brien Award, Davey O'Brien Award in Texas,
and was asked about what's happening with the draft.
He's widely expected to be the number one overall pick, Cincinnati Bengals pick number one.
Burrough said this, I do have leverage per the first.
Fort Worth Star Telegram.
They have their process and I have my process.
We haven't even gotten to the Combine yet.
There's a lot of things that happen leading up to the draft and a lot of information gathered.
Right now I'm focused on being the best football player I can be.
I'm in this unique spot.
You can go watch my film.
I don't have to prove myself a pro day and at the Combine.
So I'm in a unique spot where I can focus on getting ready for the year.
We have not, this has not happened, a player that was expected to go number one.
forcing his way out of that destination since Eli Manning and the Chargers 17 years ago.
It feels like we're a little overdue for something like this.
And if I'm a Bengals fan, and it's unfortunate Wes is in Hawaii right now because I'd be interested
of what he would say, but I kind of do, I feel like I know what he would say, is if I'm a
Bengals fan, I am terrified right now because just the fact that Burrow would put this out there,
that starts the media machine going nuts now.
Then you got a guy like Carson Palmer
even predates us at the Super Bowl.
He did the media tour
just basically warning Joe Burrow
to watch out about going to Cincinnati.
Sally Wilcox comes in,
another former Bengals great,
doubles down, says the same thing
that Carson Palmer was done dirty
and Joe Burrow needs to be careful with this.
I'm nervous if I'm a Cincinnati fan right now.
Well, I think the minute that Joe Burrow was attached
to Jordan Paul,
Palmer as his, you know, pre-draft quarterback guru.
And obviously, Jordan Palmer has feelings.
And Carson Palmer has probably been in conversations with them.
And Carson Palmer's...
Jordan Palmer is with the Bengals too back.
Right.
And Carson Palmer's end with the Bengals was about as negative and, you know, antagonistic as...
That he was going to retire if you don't trade.
Right.
He's like, I'm willing to put my career into, you know, the Dead Box, whatever that means,
like to not play for the Bengals anymore.
Say Dead Box?
Well, it's like you're throwing away millions of dollars
to simply not be part of an organization.
When you spin words like, Mark,
you got to just throw some crazy ones out there
so they don't all end.
Haven't you ever, I've had a job or two
where I thought I'm making okay money
at this hideous corporation,
but not making money
and having to start all over again
is preferable because it's so dreary
and so awful here and there's no future
that you can feel that way sometimes.
It feels like you're in a dead box.
You are, you're getting closer, you feel it.
And I think if you're burrow, though, like, it is weird to me that we haven't seen another player do as much as they can with draftable number one talent and power, like more Eli Manning situations.
Because it just seems like players have more leverage and power than they have before.
He could just simply say, I'm not going to play for you.
And so what did the Bengals do?
Yeah, and even Eli, you went into draft days still not knowing how it was going to work out.
And the Chargers did a good job, I think, of handling that.
but you weren't even sure if Eli had the leverage when that draft started.
You still thought they might take them.
They end up getting, you know, a fair compensation for that number one pick.
But it's a nightmare.
And it's different because, yeah, Burrow, I mean, the fact that Jordan Palmer's in there in his ears
and has all this institutional knowledge is kind of a worst-case scenario.
And these comments were eye-opening.
It doesn't seem like it's so far-fetched that this could be something.
we're talking about for months now.
And while he's from Ohio and stuff,
and people want to link him to the Bengals as a...
He grew up a Saints fan, Joe Burrow.
I don't think there's any...
There is no shared DNA with the Bengals.
It's anti-D-Na.
Just so we have this cover.
This is what Carson Palmer said
during one of his media stops during Super Bowl week.
That's why I wanted out.
I never felt like the Bengals organization
was really trying to win a Super Bowl
and really chasing the Super Bowl.
He told CBS Sports Radio.
And a lot has changed.
A lot of people have come and gone in Cincinnati since Palmer was there.
But Mike Brown is still the owner.
And there's a lot of bad blood there, obviously.
All right.
Let's do a little 8 o'clock the light.
The Detroit Lions were reportedly trying to trade Darius Slay, the cornerback.
This is not the first time it's popped up,
but he's entering the final year of his deal, Greg.
Pretty tasty trade market, I think we're going to have in the next couple weeks.
And Slay is a good one.
The Redskins have formerly released cornerback
Josh Norman after four seasons.
He was once the highest paid cornerback in football
but didn't play like it, especially last year, Mark.
I hate when bad teams sign like one star player in the secondary
and you're expecting a lot to pivot around that.
No, it didn't work out.
You didn't say that to him to his face when you did Sky Sports.
I like the man personally.
Seems delightful, but, you know.
Couldn't play last year.
Paul Richardson.
Come up in conversation.
A high-paid wide receiver signed a five-year, $40 million contract in 2018.
He gone as well.
So some of these Redskins signings had that worked out.
Jordan Reed, I think, could be the next one to go, your old buddy, George.
Still in Concussion Protocol.
Tyrod Taylor could be the starter.
The Charger says Anthony Lynn.
That's a BS, right, Craig?
Nobody believes this.
I think he could be if things don't work out.
Oh, that will fill up the stadium.
All right, you draft the guy number six, and Tyrod's like the week one starter, and he's not a week three starter.
It's exactly.
what happened in Cleveland. Talk about Tyrod Taylor
all offseason. He'll be a nice one and a half
game plays sold until the rookie begins his career.
Oh no! Rich Samini reports that
LeBel got fat last season and the Cardinals
give big money to...
No, we can't start the music over when there's only two
left. Just ran out of time.
But I want... We're going to
move out. Yeah, Lev Bell
got fat and lost
explosiveness as the season wore on, Rich Samini
said, according to the Jets
and Rich Semeni is plugged into the
Jets. So good contract there.
speaking of good contracts.
Make him tougher to trade.
He was already...
He's already tough to trade.
And I just want to throw this out there about Lev Bell.
Remember when he sat out a whole year of his prime
and said, I'm doing this for all the running backs?
Then he got an okay contract with the Jets,
not a great contract.
But actually playing well after you signed the contract,
that's how you would have helped out the other running backs.
You killed other running backs with this whole thing.
Not exactly a visionary approach.
And the Cardinals, yes, agreed to a three-year deal
with offensive tax.
DJ Humphreys, three years, $45 million, Mike Garifolo reported.
$29 million guaranteed.
This is just something to note if you're looking for a tackle.
It is impossible to get tackles on the free agent market when DJ Humphreys is making 15 a year.
It's just like the hardest position to fill.
All right.
Let's get into it.
Franchise tag.
That's what's happening in the news.
The headline is 2020 NFL franchise slash transition tag, Primer.
and no-brainer candidates?
I don't do the headlines.
I don't even worry.
What the hell is that?
There's a lot happening.
Hey, take it to,
I'm going to go straight to slack our,
I'm not supposed to say the claim that we do.
You can beep that out.
You can beep that out, Erica.
I'll go straight to our editor,
who you have a good relationship with
and say you took some shots on our podcast.
Well, could you also ask why they make the headline
in that fashion?
I think that it's a fair question.
It's very fair.
All right.
Franchise tag.
Greg, you know, and this is just Greg.
Flex in here because he knows he's going to have a lot of eyeballs on this one
because there's going to be a lot of players.
This is one of your offices and narratives that I'm like fishing for hits in the off season.
I don't know if this one is technically a banger in terms of like people like the cuts,
people like the trades.
I'm not sure people are super into the tags.
Yeah, but this is the one that gets you like when like Peter Schragger's like,
I respect Greg the most like on our summertime.
It's like this is the article that he's like,
Yeah, Dan Mark and Wes, yeah.
He probably respects Wes second,
but he's like, Dan and Mark probably aren't writing franchise tag posts.
Going deeper into Mark's mind as the sentence continues.
I respect Greg the most, Jan.
Way to go, Pete.
Way to be honest.
I'd take the bait, you know.
Teams can first designate franchise or transition players on February 25th.
That's next week and must do so by March 10th.
So that's the window.
And as I was saying in the intro, which Greg knew that Schrager is going to read this.
So he's like, oh, I must be professional and make it clear what these things are.
Franchise tag, a one-year guaranteed contract that prevents a player from hitting unrestricted free agency.
The salary is based on the five-year average cap percentage for the tag at each position,
stemming from the top five salariesy position at each position.
Do you switch up that language each year?
Because you've done this like seven-rate time.
It feels like I cut and paste.
Spice it up a little?
They add that.
They add that.
This is interesting.
The transition tag, it's also a one-year guaranteed contract based on the five-year
average cap percentage for the tag at each position.
But the transition tag stems from the top 10, not the top five salaries at each position.
It's like slightly.
The only thing.
It's a bit cheaper.
Well, the thing that's really interesting this year, and I don't think a lot of people
know it because it's never happened before is teams can use a franchise tag and a transition
tag.
They made up these strange rules for this final year of the collective bargaining agreement,
which is right now.
And these rules could even change if the NFL and the players agree in the next couple weeks.
I'm not holding my breath for that.
So right now, there's three teams in particular.
To me, that's like the headline with this whole season.
But can I just, before you go on, because Schrager might be listening right now.
And he's like, whoa, Greg has that whole intro setup, but he didn't clearly lay out what the biggest difference is with the transition tag.
That's up there.
The tag allows players to sign offer sheets with other teams,
but the original club has five days to match.
So, Pete, hadn't read this yet, but it was listening now.
I'm like, how did Greg leave that out?
I'm losing respect.
Here's Mark coming up the power rankings.
Well, what to be, to be clear,
I think Shreger understands the rules on his own.
But if Greg didn't,
Pete would lose respect for Greg.
Why is Mark moving up?
But I'd love to do.
Well, just by, because you're leaving a void.
Like, we're just, you know, it's like Greg suddenly has lost his edge,
so Mark is rising up.
Well, let's go through it.
Let's just go through it then, the Peter Schrager power rankings.
Greg, he's stated, number one, West of football head.
So he's probably number two.
I would think through my weekly Good Morning football interactions with him
and some direct messaging, me and him have gotten to know each other better.
So I'm going to put myself in the bronze medal.
Yeah, I don't.
What about Erica?
Because he's worked with him.
He loves Erica.
I'm fit.
He's stated constantly how she does such great work on the video side of things.
and he's a champion of women, Pete.
So I would say Eric is four.
And the lone thing that I created for NFL Network Operation Dirtnap
confused him on an airplane trip
and probably lowered me below fifth.
There's probably some other handler behind the glass that he got.
Well, he has interacted with some of our shadowy league figures like Mark Brady.
Number five, Brady.
You know, sometimes because everything I think about him,
I seem like a wonderful guy,
but sometimes like when you have, I don't know if I'd call it a friendship,
someone that you work with that you just can't get it right every time you interact like you
kind of do something wrong that's sort of how the position that I'm in it's going to take a long
way to dig out from this I'm on the bottom of an ant hill at this point right you know maybe we can get
him out at the company settle this if we can work this out get Peter uh at yeah but it's not
worked out until he respects me the most oh you want number one I don't care about third place
because you appeared on a morning show I don't think you need to get on the podium dude
well it's going to that's what I'm saying there's a lot of work that needs to be done here
Probably my entire career.
Getting to number one is too much of a ask, I think.
I don't think he's ever going to like you the best.
Well, that's the goal, though.
I'm just saying I don't care about...
You should try to get my spot.
If you can get third, you'll be okay.
That's not a challenge.
We should have every guest come on, Power Rank us.
That'll be great content.
All right.
Let's get into it.
The no-brainers, Greg.
Well, I'm going to throw out one idea here.
Okay.
Kind of an overarching thing that I wish I talked about, you know, when we've,
when we've talked about it elsewhere.
It's like there's three teams
and they've got some of the biggest names out there
that I think this whole using the double tag
scenario comes up with
and it's pretty fascinating
if you just think about how they're going to use it
and that's the Titans with Ryan Tannahill and Derek Henry.
That's the Bucks with Shaq Barrett
and James Winston and then that's the Cowboys
with Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper
and all these fans out there,
especially the Cowboys fans, probably the Titans too,
thinking, oh, we're going to keep these
guys, it's not going to be that simple.
At this point, it's almost impossible to get these guys signed to a long-term deal.
It happens, but it's really hard.
And so then you've got to start making choices.
The Cowboys' choice is obvious.
You're going to franchise DAC, but that might mean that Amari Cooper's bye-bye.
You can't count on the fact that some team out there is not going to just front-load
a crazy huge contract for Amari Cooper.
And then I think Jerry Jones should be facing some heat from not getting this DAC thing done earlier.
I think that's a good point.
And I think Amari Cooper, if he was given the transition tag and left that, that door was open, there will be a team because there's a lot of money to be spent and the cap keeps getting higher.
And if you look at the teams that are willing to spend and the teams that need playmakers, he would almost certainly fetch a huge offer.
Right.
Not almost certainly.
He certainly would fetch a huge offer.
And then that would put the Cowboys in a spot where we might not even have the option.
and you basically then will have chosen DAC over Amari
when these guys should have been tied together.
So I'm totally with you that Dallas potentially
has put themselves in a position.
And Ezekiel Elliott over all of them
when they got that done.
You basically have until March 10th
to try to get a deal done with one of those.
And I kind of subscribe to the theory.
You should almost, if you're a free agent at this point,
why, you know, and you're actually interested in leaving town?
Go to market.
Yeah, why not let all these teams bid on you?
Like with the Titans, you know, Jerry Jones,
deserves critique if that unfolds in that fashion.
So I put DAC as a no-brainer, and then I put Amari below,
just to be clear and say they'd probably use the transition tag in that scenario.
I think the Titans, though, all of this happened to them in the last couple of months.
They didn't know they were going to be in the situation with Ryan Tannahill
or even, to some degree, Derek Henry.
And Derek Henry, I think, is a tough one to figure out contract-wise
as much as any free agent out there.
Because do you pay him for what he's been or what you think he'll be three years from now?
I agree with you that they just have to probably use both of these options on Tanna Hill and Henry
and you also have Jack Conklin if you're them.
I put Tana as a no-brainer because you just can't let him leave.
I mean, it's just he finished, you know, his top, you know, number one in yards per attempt,
number one in completion percentage, number one in completion percentage over expected,
like pretty high in Cuban.
You just can't let him leave.
So at this point, I think a one-year franchise tag makes sense for them.
And then it makes it really interesting.
A one-year $10 million contract for Henry,
that's what it would be with a transition tag.
That sounds about right if you're the Titans.
Sure.
But it'd be a great test of,
okay, how much are running backs,
you know, this conversation we have too much about running back value.
This would kind of be the ultimate test of it.
Is Derek Henry just out there after the run that he had,
will any team sign him to a Todd Gurley like try to deal?
I kind of doubt it.
Has it early scared?
like no matter what Derek Henry is
but he'll get some sort of good deal you would think
and then the Titans
you know will they give him a monster contract now
or are they just kind of happy to go on the one year
I would like to see like the next wave
of forget this Levi-on-Bel
you know campaign anti-campaign that went totally south
like the way that pay them
but give running backs like monster two-year deals
because they all go bad
like none of these things seem to work out
and on the Ryan Tantanahill topic
I would think I think it'd be equally crazy
he'd give him a long-term deal, making him one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league,
or in the top five even.
I'm with you.
He makes perfect sense to hold it, give him the juicy one-year franchise tag deal.
And if you do it again, and you now have nearly two seasons or a season and a half of evidence
that he finally turned the corner, then you pay him.
Yeah, I agree.
And that sort of leaves the bucks as the toughest team to predict.
I think Ian, based on his reporting on air, would disagree with me
that I put Shaq Barrett in as the no-brainer
because Bruce Ariens is just saying he's not going anywhere.
Here's the guy who got a vote or two for a defensive player of the year.
I just don't see any scenario where they let him leave.
Maybe they can figure out a contract.
This is a guy who's been in the league a while and hasn't made a ton of money.
Maybe they can actually figure out a long-term deal.
And then you use the franchise tag on James, and that just works out.
but if it came down to one or the other
I kind of think they may go
the Shaq Barrett route
and then you put the transition tag on James
and you say, okay, is another team out there
and just think of the timing of it all
because if you put the transition tag out
he still has to wait until he gets into free agency
has to wait until March 16th, 18th.
Is our team's going to wait around that long
and give James Winston a big offer?
Come on.
Ian seems to think that could happen
but I don't know who...
But again, what team?
Because we can say there's a huge market for Teddy Bridgewater.
What team and what team is going to go down this James Winston trap door?
I mean, the other thing about Shaq Barrett, he basically said he would be open to giving the bucks a discount.
Now, I don't really believe any of that until it happens.
But this stuck with me, he hates moving.
He does not want to move.
Wait, who is this?
Jack Barrett, I read this whole article.
He went off out.
He hates relocating.
He has a family, all this stuff.
He wants to stay in Florida.
He wants the tax situation.
Oh, yeah.
No tax?
situation and not be, you know, not taken down a notch.
He doesn't want to get in a caravan and have to move the whole family across the country.
So a lot of this is sort of the stars aligning.
They believe.
Jack Barrett, who I believed in from the beginning, by the way, too.
And they believed at him.
I don't know if that's true.
He fit well with Todd Bulls, the Todd Bowles.
The Todd kept his job.
That was good because we were pumping them up pretty good.
They finished them very strong.
They finished very strong on defense.
The bucks for the record, according to overthecap.com, of the fourth highest level of cap space
entering the agency another Florida team arc since you're plugged in on this moving thing
the dolphins at number one so it would make sense to me given they have a ton of money a ton of
dough and given what arian said that shack is going ain't going nowhere just back up the brink's truck
pay the dude for the next you know four years and then and then the franchise tag on james yeah that
would i think be the ideal scenario it would be interesting if james had the transition though that's one
year $24 million.
It's a good way to save some money because I think I agree with Mark that I don't know if he's
going to have a robust market, a team that would be willing to give up.
It's kind of like a stare down where it's like, you think you can really do better than me?
No.
And like, can the bucks really do better than James?
Probably not.
It's like, you know, they ask us to do these, these hits on NFL now.
And, you know, we've been wanting a bigger role, you know, maybe move up in the hour.
It's like, no, it just seems like it's a good situation for both.
We're the best that they can do.
We're available.
They're the best we can do
You know, it's just fine
What a setup it is
Rounding up your no-brainers list
So you said Dack, Tannahill
Chris Jones
The defensive tackle of the Chiefs
Justin Simmons
Bronco Safety
You mentioned Barrett
And then AJ Green
I guess we'll see
I feel like this is
The Bengals are a team
That are tough to figure out
Now Green said
He would be okay
With staying with Cincinnati
On the franchise tag
The Bengals probably don't want
give him a multi-year deal, given his age and injury history.
So this kind of makes sense that it would just be a situation where, you know, you do it, pull the trigger.
Maybe I'm just like a Patriots fan that was hopeful he would be available.
And I think there's a lot of fans out there, Ravens fans, Eagles fans, a lot of teams that need a big, wide receiver thing.
Ooh, AJ, I've read these like free agent articles where other beat writers are always projecting.
And they always are like, well, you can just sign AJ Green and Chris Jones.
It's like, well, it doesn't really usually work that way.
I don't think he's going to be available.
Ian really feels strongly.
He basically says it's not happening.
So I'm just trying to.
That he's not getting them.
That he's going to get the tag.
That he's going to be tagged.
He's not going to be available.
That the Bengals keep their guys and they're happy to just.
And you know what?
Maybe that acts as a preemptive olive branch to Mr. Joe Burrow.
Yeah.
He's one of the best wide receivers in the last 20 years.
How about to your head coach, who didn't have AJ Green
all last year in that total dog and pony show that you kept thinking he might come back,
he's not coming back. It's like, if Jack Taylor has any power, you have to be able to
suggest that you don't, the Bengals who are allergic to signing anyone in free agency, can you
at least keep your own player? Right. They keep their own players better than any team in the
league. They are the most homegrown talent team year after year. It's a pretty nice group of
players around Joe Burrow. If he gets there, Tyler Boyd, A.J. Green, Joe Mixing. He'll be worse.
John Roth, maybe?
I would like to see any of their draft picks work out on the offensive line.
Their line is just simply not developed.
Anything else want to hit on this, Greg, before we move on?
No, I think that's good.
Justin Simmons is a tricky one.
He fit with what Vic Fangio did, and their defense got a little worse under Fongio.
Well, that went to a place.
And they're possibly losing Chris Harrier.
Derek Wolf
Shelby Harris
It's like you got to build
Around some people
So you should keep
You know one of the one difference
You know a few difference makers you got
All right and I just
I like this one because this usually means the guys
Are moving on unlikely to be tagged
Devin McCordy and Joe Tooney
From the Pats
Yvonne Bell
The Saints
Austin Hooper
Falcons tight end
Jack Conklin
We talked up Byron Jones
Dallas cornerbacks
Those are all really good players
And usually it means that there's something going on with the team
And all of those teams
The Falcons don't have a lot of cap room relatively
So I think Hooper could actually be available
And the Saints don't have a lot of cap room
Especially after the Breeze thing
So I think Bell could be...
And the Patriots, they just, they don't like using the tag
And Joe Tooney, their guard, who's very good
I mean, it would cost like $16 million.
He's gotten better and better every year.
He'll get paid a ton of money.
Why aren't they paying him?
I know he's going to be overpaid, but that's just the nature of the market.
Especially if you're bringing back Tom Brady, you're going to take away one of his best
offensive linemen.
That might not be a good match.
I don't know.
Oh, it's so tricky in New England right now.
There's a lot.
They have a lot of free.
Conklin's kind of getting boxed out for the tags, possibly.
I think they could work out a long-term deal.
With Tooney, though, with Conklin, rather.
With Tooney, they already paid Shaq Mason, who's their guard.
A lot of money.
So do you want to be paying two guards?
big time.
But how do you get to Tom Brady?
How do you get him out of whack?
How do you cause him to struggle?
Especially this upcoming...
Pressure up the middle.
Every time.
Santa.
God, God.
Bang.
You got to be worried in the post-Dante Scarnetia world.
No Dante either?
At the offensive line.
Oh, there's so many questions marks.
New England.
Joe out of Tuney, more like it.
Oh.
I mean, he's going to make a lot of money.
He's going to make a lot of money.
Can you imagine Tom Brady trying to move
another nine months from now
he's just going to keep
getting slower
you're not wrong
you're loving this
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check it out
NFL.com slash
Rosenthal
all right
we promised her
we promised you
the listener that she would be here
and sure enough
Erica's on the phone right now
connecting with Colleen
and now
Erica's moving over
she seems to be connecting
doing something
A lot of buttons
They're talking
I mean I don't think
Nervous
Hey
Oh
Hi
We just heard you're nervous
What are you nervous about
That was for the listeners
Colleen Wolfe
What's up?
Hello
What are you guys doing?
Barnstorming another day off of yours
Are you okay
Yeah, I've just been, like, puzzling for the last five hours.
I've got to get out of here.
Yeah, the life of Connie in the off-season is a wild.
Wait, explain that, please?
Doing jigsaw puzzles?
Yeah, I'm just puzzled, and I got to finish it.
I can't leave before it's finished, so.
That's where I am in life.
What's the puzzle image of?
It's a bunch of weird, like, animals smiling.
Are you okay?
Sounds like something else is going on there.
but uh all right let's just let's just move forward the connie fox theme song sweepstakes uh i laid it out
last week send in a 30 second or less submission a theme song that will introduce
colin whenever she's on the show the contest will run through this week so send in your
submissions the at n podcast at gmail dot com and erika when i opened up uh the gmail account
this morning i was so happy to see uh incredible amount of entries people are excited about this
We had a ton.
It was actually pretty cool.
A lot of them were really good.
So we're going to play a few favorites right now.
And Connie, just understand that you,
I just thought you would like to be on the phone while we were playing these.
Don't think you would need to pass judgment,
but you can if you want,
or decide which one you would want it to be,
though you can.
I just want you to be part of the process.
And we're going to figure out a part,
the listeners will have a voice,
and this room will have a voice,
Erica will have a voice and perhaps you as well
but for now it's more just like absorbing
some of the ones that stood out
amongst the initial batch and if
your song is not played today don't think
you're out of the running this is more
I starred some that I liked
and then I said Erica why don't you pick
a few that you like so
it's a good sign if you're
played today but it doesn't mean
you're out just understand that I feel like they're all
from Erica did Erica make all of these
yeah exactly no but
Erica will be posting for our
listeners, the puzzle you are putting together on the Around the NFL podcast,
Instagram handle where these, these maniacal looking animals, it's frightening, frankly.
And so we'll put that up on it.
There is also maybe 20 more pieces until you finish.
I feel like you're going to achieve this based on the image.
It's many years and decades away, Colleen, but you're going to be a fascinating old person,
like an old lady.
You're not the first person who told me that.
Like you're going to have
like wacky glasses
And there's going to be a lot going on
Well I can't wait
All right
Let's hear the song
All right
Let's hear the first one
That Erica selected
For today's show
Let's listen in
Who is it from
I do not disclose that information
Oh you don't
Yes
Okay that's a
No that's good
Yes
So it's from Erica
Yeah essentially an Erica
Creation
Yeah
Okay here we go
Her hearts
Is big ass Philly
She likes to act so silly
We like to call her tiny box
Tiny box, tiny box, tiny box
I have four words to make your
Cutty Box is here, cutty boxes here
The history is rich for
Cutty Box is here
in under a 30 too.
Really breaks down nice.
And it fades out on a guitar solo.
It's like it's Bohemian Rhapsody.
Yeah, no involved.
I love that one.
Bouncy, melodic.
That one is very strong.
What else?
Let's hear another one.
I'm lazy.
I would hear that and just be like, okay, that's it.
Here we go.
Marks is ready to go
Wow, Mark, your mood is
The mood is different than I was expecting for most of these entries,
but it feels like a lot of drug-induced inspiration there,
a slow motion, more slow motion entry.
I enjoyed it.
I liked the end when it went.
Yeah, good production.
I wanted another one of those.
Good production.
Lyricism, not as strong.
Maybe not as strong.
I agree with you, but it did take me somewhere as Mark is.
It had like some St. Lucia vibes.
Yes, it did.
Yep.
That's good.
I appreciate it.
Erica, you like that one?
Yeah, that one's good.
Yeah, solid.
All right.
Let's hear another one.
you're in a tough city
the tiniest box
that you ever did see
starring on every show on your TV
Highing at the moon
She'll be rich a famous soon
She's in a 40
All-A
Miss Connie Furn
I like how that one ended
Like an 80s sitcom theme
good strong lyrics i love the she'll be rich or famous soon in that lyric right that could get out
of date you know which one she preferred right that could get out of date quick i would say it already
has um but you know in three four years that will that hold up you know when she is one thing i did
notice gregg makes a good point there that so colline famously on last week's shows
she'd rather be famous than rich and i did happen to notice a lot of the entries worked that
into the lyrics and that is a risk and I think the people that win this contest or the person
that wins the contest it might be someone that takes a look at it from a broader viewpoint of
her seven years on the show yeah not just on the pet it not the newest information available
and have it be timeless right right right that that's what colin cares about is just fame
uh I don't know maybe we don't know it's too soon to say all right we got two left here
we go let's hear another one oh I like
that's good
said you wanted
a theme song so I made you a rap
at least I know that Greg will like this even
if it is crap let's get serious now
because we talk in Colleen
host of Thursday night football Philadelphia
Queen you say the history is rich
but you'd rather be famous ever
since TNF you think this podcast
is heinous but don't worry Colleen
because I still wish you well but you ain't a
hero no more just upon a gad
Oh, that one turned into a disc track.
Dropping a hammer.
Well, that's definitely going to be played again at some point.
Well, I'm glad that went full heel
so that we could summarily dismiss that terrible rapping.
I mean, we're not going to listen to that ever on repeat.
Greg was so disappointed when the vocal came in.
No, I don't like that he's coming after Colleen,
so now we can just speak the truth that this does not speak well
for our listeners that someone would have that
poor of a flow.
I did not feel that strongly
against this person. That's not mean.
He's coming after her.
I think it was all in fun, first of all.
Did it hurt your feelings?
It said a pond of Godell.
It said a pawn of Godell.
I kind of feel like this person really knows me
because they know that I'm a masochist
and they know that I would actually like that
in a weird way.
I mean, there's no way he finished
taping that and was like nailed it.
You know, that really can wrap.
I think I wouldn't say he's gifted in terms of the flow as a rapper.
But I will say that in the history and the rich, the history is rich of hip-hop culture,
the disc track is sometimes a sign of respect.
And that's why I think that was a nod to.
Came out of left field in a good way.
That's how I'm taking it, respect.
Tell that to cannabis and L.L. Cooge.
Not a lot of respect between those two.
All right.
Last one.
I think Cannabis said that L.L. Coolj,
95% of his fans wore high heels.
And then L.L. CoolJay comes back and says 95% of your fans don't exist, which is pretty good.
Ladies love Cool J.
Should never take it the Grammys away from him.
All right, here we go.
All right, last one.
Mm, like that.
6.6.6 buried this baby.
Yeah.
Tell this up, man, for a wolf, there's a wolf, there's a wolf, can't blow your house down.
There's a wolf, there's a wolf, there's a wolf, can't blow your house down.
Don't mess with her. Don't do it, nah, don't do it, nah, don't do it stupid.
That's pretty good
That's pretty good
And I would love
If that was taking a totally different angle on
I love it
The title of that is
There's a wolf parenthesis stupid
I kind of like
Although it's not in this gentleman's version
I like just hearing Colleen cackling
Over the
Yeah, we should work that in
I don't know if you're allowed to use
the mother goose
lyrics as freely as he does
but I'm assuming that's past copyright at this point.
You know, and that does remind me,
we did get a bunch of submissions that were either
taking the melody of a different song
or just using the beat outright.
No, no, they all have to be original compositions.
The way he did it, though, was good.
You can do that.
Yeah, I feel like there could be different calling songs
at, like, one in the morning.
She's, like, roaming down the street.
Like, that's plain.
Not one of the first more...
That's nighttime, sugar and sweet one.
That's the puzzle is built, and now Connie's got...
She's built that puzzle.
I know we're not choosing today,
I think we had two particularly strong.
The first and the last entries we heard today were both fantastic.
Yeah, the bookends were my favorite.
Like, I might add those to my airport playlist,
so then when I'm walking through TSA, they know what's up.
Okay, I'm on board with you on the first and last as maybe the early favorites.
Note a bit.
And, Erica, we'll figure this out how we want to work it out,
but we can whittle the list down essentially to maybe five choices.
Cool.
But let's move the first song and the fifth song.
into the voting process
and maybe we're not sure yet
maybe one of those other songs
will make the finals as well
for a voting process
but that's good to know
Colleen.
You think the distraction had been
I'm with you I'm with Colleen.
I am too.
I'm with Colleen.
But we have to listen to it
and it just was unfeeled.
I know but Greg you have a particular issue with it
that I don't think the rest of the group
necessarily feels.
Not even Colleen.
That's fine.
But you want the person killed.
I'm not sure I feel that strongly.
It doesn't.
speak well for our listenership if that's what we choose.
All right.
We'll speak privately about this.
Something so unmusical.
It was set up with like a rap thing.
You want to have it be good music, right?
I think Greg likes rap and he's hitting out a little bit against that as well.
If it's going to be a rap song, it's got to be better than that.
Immediately I thought, oh, let's just quietly bury this.
But then he buried Colleen and it was open season for me to just.
I just posted the photo of your puzzle, Colleen,
Instagram, and I made the caption, only diehard fans will get it, but the podcast hasn't gone
out yet, so I'm interested to see people's comments being like, ha ha, like, it should be interesting.
Oh, it's almost done. I've almost finished it during this call. I hope so. You had like 12 pieces
left. What a life, the life of Connie. Again, if you had a submission, if you have a submission,
you want to send in. You have to do it by close the business Friday. It has to be 30 seconds or
less. It has to be an original composition. And as we said, having the history is rich with Colleen.
and if you want to lyrically work in some different elements from her past,
don't just focus it all on what's happened in the past week.
But that's really up to you.
No mention of Gonzo in any of those.
But then again, it feels like a miss-op.
Right.
But it also doesn't have to be like a history of her.
The last one went on a totally esoteric level, and it worked beautifully.
That's true.
That's very true.
This is a really strong first round.
The ATN podcast at gmail.com if you want to submit us up.
Are you getting other letters in that?
I mean, other people.
We are there people that are using this to connect with us in other ways.
And with all due respect, that's not what this is about.
So maybe we'll keep, we're going to keep that Gmail open in perpetuity.
And if you want to connect with us, Erica will comb through that on a daily basis.
I'm going to add that to her workflow.
Great.
But for now, we're only focusing on songs.
All right.
Colleen, thank you for your time.
I know you're very busy.
So the fact that you can carve out these 10 minutes is it really, once again, tells us a lot
about you as a woman.
Anything for you guys.
The fact that you're rich and famous enough now to call in to our show is a big step.
Will we get her back in the studio?
Will we get her back in the studio?
Well, that's, see again, Greg, you're connecting on the, uh, this track.
Yeah.
That she's no longer a hero.
She's a, what is a, a pawn of Godell.
Yeah.
I think you can't handle the truth of that's, that song.
Are we sure Greg didn't make that one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The man doth protest too much.
All right, let's get out of here.
Thank you, Connie.
All right.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
All right.
We'll be back on Thursday.
I think Wes will be back with us too, right?
That's right.
Excellent.
And then starting next week, well, we're heading to the combine next week.
Right.
Unbelievable.
It just happens.
The wheel keeps turning.
There is an extra week this year between the end of the Super Bowl and the start of free agency.
Good.
I wish there were an extra 12.
It's a little more stretched out.
That's what they're going for.
Before our time of this company is through,
that dead period in June into July,
that won't exist.
They'll figure something out.
That could be a deal breaker in my world.
All right.
This is Dan Hansis signing off for Quiet Storm,
the old boss.
A tiny box calling in.
the great Rick Hollywood behind the glass.
Rick.
Till Thursday.
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