NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Free Agency Day 3: Russell Wilson, Trent Williams, & A.J. Green

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you the latest news on the first day of the new league year. Free Agency Day 3 is in full swing and there are some more big moves to talk about! The Seahawks turned down a pretty big offer for Russell Wilson and Gregg Rosenthal's top free agent, Trent Williams, is off the board (21:19). A.J Green has a new home (24:59) and Emmanuel Sanders is wracking up his frequent flyer miles (34:31). We break down piggy banks (37:50) and if they have to be animals before heading into some much needed 8 o'clock delight (41:04).Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. I feel like where we are now. And happy, happy league new year. And all that. It's officially the 2021 season in the NFL as of Wednesday. It feels like now, and there's still a lot of free agents out there. We're going to get to everything that's happened in the last 24 hours and guys that are still out there and things that could happen while we're recording.

just like we did the last two days but I'm starting to think like this the Sean Watson thing this is going to really soon become the dominant story if it's not already there like it feels like it's going to happen soon now

and we're going to get to some reports that are out there too do you disagree right you gave me a hmm which I think means I don't know about that I don't know I'm so in the dark about this that I have no feel if I had to guess it feels more like the draft like the draft you're right it'll become the dominant story and we're going to be talking about it but it just feels like no no one knows but it makes more sense to me to happen

near the draft i think it i think it could happen before that though too because you're in a public relations disaster and if the right offer comes it's probably going to they have to start to listen it sounds like they're not really even listening or picking up the phone but when you go and i i'm not connecting the tyrod taylor dot to suggest that they believe that that they're done with Deshaun Watson, but that's the first, like, sign. And it's just such a predictable Texans thing to do. And I, something about this, I just start thinking,

I know the Panthers are all over it, that he's going to wind up in New England and our heads are going to explore. No, stop. Why is that so impossible? Here's why, because they filed a tampering charge against the Texans just a year ago that was related to,

them hiring the general manager that's there now, that the owner of the Patriots was reportedly furious with Easterby for some breadcrumbs that Easterby dropped on the way out, that the Texans have really been almost as much as any franchise, really. Obviously, the Jets would be in that mix, but almost as much as any franchise has sort of been the Patriots little brother since they've come back because they've just kept coming up against them in key spots. And I just I just can't see any reason that they're ever going to serve Watson to them on a platter for any amount of picks because that's ownership. Ownership wouldn't allow.

Hey, I don't know. Hey, Ricky Hollywood, what if you, in one fell swoop got Cam Newton out of your way as QB1 and imported a future Hall of Fame quarterback in his mid-20s to the Patriots in one move? That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Speaking of the Patriots, any moves in the last 24 hours for everyone to, uh, oh! Over? No, but I do think more could be coming. They still have a lot of cap space left after all this somehow. This is when they usually get active. You said, by the way, Greg, that, you know,

there's certain soldiers out there in the Belichick universe. Let's, let's hear from one of them, Lewis Riddick. And he's executing it to a T right now. Now it's all on the quarterback. It's all on Cam Newton and whether or not they wind up drafting somebody for the future. But right now, as far as team building is concerned, this is a clinic of how to run free agency. It's an absolute clinic. This is exactly what's on my nerves about this, Greg. Riddick, who obviously I guess is, I know he has history with Belichick and all that, this idea that now, and he has a big platform Lewis Riddick, people listen to him and he's

on ESPN's morning show and he's saying Bill Belichick has fixed the team now, whether they do well or fail, it's on Cam Newton because Bill's fine. Bill did what Bill had to do. He made every move and he's built this. team now brilliantly. And if they don't do well in 2021, it's not Bill Belichick's fault. It's Cam Newton's fault. And that's a kind of unsavory way the sausage can be made when you have people in your corner in the media. Because I just hate that sentiment as if just because they spent all this money, he just won free agency again. And now you have to put it all on Cam as if

now it's Cam's job to get them back to the Super Bowl. It's not just Cam. That got on my nerves. Well, plus Belichick is the one that is putting Cam in there. So he is responsible for Cam Newton's play. His faith in Cam Newton is on Belichick. You know, the minute that preceded that was more of an X's and O saying, like, how these players specifically fit the way Belichick wants to attack inside out. He thought Aguilar and Henry and Johnny Smith kind of, it was like the perfect fit for the Patriots offense. So we'll see. We'll see.

But that was, that was where he was trying to go. You're right, though. You want to talk about Mission Accomplished banner on the aircraft carrier? All right, let's talk about it. Here's a thing, though. Watch NFL media across almost any platform. And the ex-players and scouts and GMs and everyone that's been inside the league, every single one of them has got some big-time agendas that are very obvious if you know them ahead of time.

Like, it's just a fact. We do too. We do too as fans. I'm not saying we don't, but we do. You got to read into that. I'm with you. Riddick has been studying Belichick for 20-plus years. I mean, he was with him on the 1993 Browns.

So I do... I think we've ascended past study at this point. I don't know what the word is, but study feels a little bit... But I would say this. If you're going to tell me a team that is going to go out and make a big deal out of having like a two tight-in offense and who I would trust with almost anyone they bring in defense to maximize, yes, it's the Patriots, unfortunately. I don't think it's just...

I think like the mission accomplished event in our history was a lot. a little more egregious than suggesting the Patriots have added talent on both sides of the ball. No, Bill did your job. It's done. It's done. The Patriots are rebuilt into a champion. Dan's just annoying because this is supposed to be the Jets time a year. It's like false hope time a year.

He doesn't like that the Patriots are the team with the false hope this time. He doesn't like that the Patriots are peaking in March like the Jets did the last few years. And I do, yeah, have plenty of history with that and peaking in March doesn't always tend to work out in September. But congratulations.

to the Patriots. You starting the show saying the, you know, it's the new league year and like now we're seller. Does that mean today is actually the first time we can say football is back? It's like the first of 15 different times from now until September.

Football's back. There may be no more absurd thing happening in any sport. I mean, and there are some challenges out there. Then this treating the new league year like New Year's Eve business, I don't, I just, I, I, we're all. all having to kind of close our eyes and pretend it's of intrigue. It's a vestige of five years ago.

The game has changed out from under our feet here. Why must we not evolve, though? Why are we still treating that like it's this Christmas morning business? My son is in the background yelling poo-poo bananas. Well, that's true. That's more interesting to me than... Right, that's a good point. I think you're going to discover something more interesting when you exit the show, no doubt

about it. You know, he's talking about the Seahawks offseason. Am I right? Oh, all right. Let's get into where we're at right now. It is just after 5 o'clock on the East Coast. Let's start with some quarterback talk. Let's talk about the Seahawks.

Why not? Because an interesting report, the Bears, as we discussed yesterday, signed Andy Dalton to a one-year contract worth. 10 million with room to go higher than that it's it's you know low grade starting quarterback money for any adult it seems like the direction chicago's going in 2021 now a report this actually from dan patrick uh who uh said on his radio show i presume that chicago uh the chicago bears offered three first round picks a third round pick and two unnamed starters for russell wilson so they went for it the reports out there

If this is true, what Patrick is saying, I have no reason to think that he's misinformed here. The Bears, indeed, we're all in on trying to solve their offense and franchise issues with one big swing. But, you know, what killed them is they have the 20th overall pick. You wonder if they were in the top five if this is a whole different situation and the Seahawks are actually tempted to pull the trigger, but they might not have had enough ammunition here.

They couldn't deliver the quarterback. I think that, you know, if you're the Seahawks, And I like the way some people But it Like if this deal went down The Seahawks become the Bears And the Bears become the Seahawks And why would the Seahawks want to do that?

I mean, I wonder though And this all happened at a North Dakota State Pro Day in Fargo, North Dakota Which adds a little bit of intrigue to the whole thing But I got If you're right Mysterious, a nice place Okay, we can play that too

Like Ryan Pace You tried but you didn't deliver the quarterback the first time. Okay, we can play that too, he says. You seem, yeah, annoyed by the song. I like the accompanying. I don't understand what is happening. We can throw a little sound drop in there every once in a while

without you getting agitated by it. It's just, it's meant to add a little flavor. Typically, when I'm speaking, then suddenly a bunch of bells and whistles get unfurled. I mean, there's no doubt about it, but it is a nice anthem. Do you want to know what it is? I don't, at this point, I don't even know what I was going to say. Instead of judging, this is. the theme song of the great film Fargo.

Well, I've seen the film many times. Yes, this is the theme song from Fargo. I love that there was a clandestine meeting in Fargo, having really loved that, was it the Coen Brothers that did that film? Yes. Excellent. All right, Mark, go ahead. I'm sorry to upset you with...

No, I think what's happened is I stepped over a bit that you had prepared before the show. I mentioned... No, I'm noticing this. You're starting to have any issues when... there's something in the background. I apologize. Go ahead. Well, I don't, I don't know where this is going, but like, I would just say this. You wind up with Andy Dalton because you couldn't deliver the quarterback, not when you had a chance to draft one.

Or when it came down to this super expensive trade proposal, you're on the outside looking in. You're the Chicago Bears, and it's not Andy Dalton's fault. And we all get it. Everyone's been tweeting about it for 24 hours. but he's in another terrible situation where he's going to be compared to like Ms. Trubisky, who they could have had. So I've had enough of it, and I feel for Bears fans.

The music swelling really does add a level of gravitas to what would otherwise be like a good Andy Dalton take, but now it almost feels like your Oscar clip. It's great. Maybe just end the show right here. Just call it a day. See you tomorrow. I do see what Ryan Payton.

is doing though here you know it's like every reporter has this these details where does it come from all right rickie like he is giving me um Ryan Pace that is some Danny Ainge in the NBA vibes where it's like every time a huge superstar gets traded like it gets leaked a day later that Danny Aange really tried hard for him and I'm not doubting that's true but you kind of it's a self-serving report that's like hey bears fans we tried uh well if you really i didn't like when people said they did everything possible they the empty well no you could have just offered more you could have made trades leading up to this to get even more first round picks like if you wanted to sell out there you know everything you possibly could do you could do more part of the

well three first round picks didn't we learn at some point in this off season that that's the most you can actually offer right but if you got someone in theory in theory you could try to acquire another. Trade Khalil Mack for another first or something like that. You're saying? Okay. Sure. Something like that. Or like the Jets have done. Look, the Jets have set the table to be a true contender. The Bears are not. But you need like a year, you need a little bit more time to build up a cachet like that. I guess the, if the Bears had another year leading up to one.

And maybe they will because Russell Wilson could be traded next year. Yeah. Maybe then you could see something happen. Or even next month. Because if rap sheets are our insider, Ian, Rappaport's timeline is accurate and no reason to think it wasn't. The Seahawks slept on this. So I thought that was an interesting part of the story.

Schneider and Pace meetup, the clandestine meeting, Fargo, and they sleep on it. He goes back and talks to Pete Carroll. I found an interesting rap sheet points out specifically that Carol is the one that makes

the decision here, which is supporting my Pete Carroll as the most powerful head coach in the NFL argument because he hired Schneider and because they don't seem to have any real ownership situation going on there, not really sure what's going on there, that Carol said, no, I don't want to do that, but I don't know. They had a meeting. They talked about it. They thought about it. It kind of indicates they're thinking about it, that it's possible. Whether it's possible right now or next offseason, I don't know, but it doesn't seem nearly as like crazy. And if I am Seahawks ownership, it's, it's

Paul Allen's sister, by the way, after Paul Allen died. I don't know. I'd be a little concerned. I might want to nip this in the bud, and I might want to get old Pete Carroll out the door if I have to make a choice. Right now? I don't know. Before they trade Russell Wilson, yeah, if it comes down to that.

I like what Pete Carroll's doing, keeping Russell Wilson. Okay, that's fine. It's 70. Part of it is he's 70. Does he want to go into a rebuild with a hazy quarterback scenario? Sounds like an absolute nightmare to be doing that at age 70. You could turn into the Bears and not have a quarterback for 30 years. Also, Pete Carroll is not your average 70-year-old.

And I also think based on what we know about him, I don't think he sees anything as, you know, I can't pull this off, not at this age. I think he still believes himself to be 35. And he might actually be. He's not quite your average 70-year-old. But this will be very interesting to continue to track. And another big quarterback news,

and we mentioned Watson and the idea of a trading, franchise superstar. The athletics, Joseph Person, reports that the Panthers are quote, locked on acquiring the Texan star. And a person quoted

an executive with an NFL team who said Watson looks to be plan A, B, and C for the Panthers and the team's owner, David Teper. Three first round picks, the likely starting point in trade talk. So there's

three again there's the max now i well max years you could always have more first round's back that's beside the point um here's my thought on this and why i think yes the drafts really it feels like it's far away but it's really not but if the texans have david tepper on the hook here and this guy wants what he wants and we've heard this over and over that david tepper he won't let a guy out of the room when he wants his man and he wants to make his big splash and he wants to run an NFL team, the way he built himself as a businessman into a billionaire, and that's being aggressive and getting what he wants. All right, this feels like the got to do business with.

And we've talked about it in the past on this show. If you've got to trade to Sean Watson, which you never want to do. But if you have to do it, you don't have another choice, you might as well trade him out of the conference and put him out of sight out of mind on some level. And don't let this opportunity slip away. It just feels like the Panthers and where they're at as an organization and their need and who their owner is, this is the partnership to get max value in a deal.

Don't get too cute with this and blow the best potential suitor you have. You'd have the number eight pick. That would be a doorway to get a quarterback, obviously, which is the huge key component here. I do think David Tepper is going to be looked at four or five years from now as one of the most powerful owners in the NFL,

if not in sports. He's a modern day owner. and the marriage between him and Matt Rule is super solid. And can you imagine that offense last year was frisky with Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, they've got parts. Can you imagine Deshaun Watson with Christian McCaffrey and Robbie Anderson? And maybe you even think about retaining Curtis Samuel, resigning him as an attractive add-on for Deshaun Watson.

They will have, now that it's the New Year League, about $32 million in cap space. So they have been making moves and setting the table, Again, to your point, Greg, getting in the right position to make this gigantic trade, and I think it would be an awesome landing spot for Deshawn Watson. Well, and they're high enough in the draft that they could potentially move higher. So that's the key to me. I think if you're the Seahawks, you can't ever trade Russell Wilson without getting a franchise

quarterback back. It's insane. And it's the same with the Texans. So, you know, the dolphins and the Jets, to me, have always made the most sense because they have the second and third pick. And we heard that Watson would like to go there. Although now that's, you know, there's a million of these reports out there. There's one from Lombardi, who is a former Patriots employee.

So again, think about it. Think about agendas that says he doesn't want to go to those teams, that he likes the 49ers or the Broncos, which also are teams, I think, that could be laying in the weeds here because they don't need a quarterback now in free agency, but they could pounce around the draft. But what Carolina and Denver, to some degree, has is a pretty high draft pick where it's, okay, maybe if you can get even higher and then you throw in the first without giving up your first round picks,

you know, then maybe you're cooking. But wouldn't you get, you probably would get the best price near the draft, kind of like the Goff trade or the Wentz trade or the Eli Manning trade, all these other trades. I could see Jimmy G. is someone that, you know, please, Nicasario and Mr. Easterby,

claiming friendship with or whatever it would be and saying this is that this fits well with what the Texans want to be. Jimmy G. is our starter with, you know, Tyrod Taylor is our backup. and you'll probably see both of them. I don't know if Easterby, you know, he's a god-fearing man. Remember when Garoppolo went on that blind date with the adult film star? Sure, but maybe not on brand with.

One of the tenants would be forgiveness, I would think. You'd have to forgive that. He's a young man. You could see why that might happen. That's still what I have to say in all the years that we've done this podcast, one of the strangest stories that Jimmy G, who's by all accounts, a mild-mannered man and a really nice guy. and everybody seems to like him.

And I'm not throwing any shame on the adult film industry. But to think that you could just go out on the town with a well-known porn star, that was quite a roll of the dice. Now, the payoff, I imagine, was huge. Let's be honest here. You know, entering in that type of relationship, however long it lasted. But when we look back, Greg, that's stunning, isn't it? I mean, I think it lasted until the next day when she posted stuff on Instagram.

about it but it's a really funny story to look back on it made me like jimmy g more because of how he handled it he didn't try he didn't give you the franchise quarterback um vanilla answer he just sort of like shrug the shoulders was like come on guys like you know what happened why are you asking about this like he owned it and i with a smile he owned it i was and if a franchise quarterback can't do it who can i guess in terms of your you know power brokering your way into that kind of a He's like, what, you got to get on me for this, guys? Look at me. He's like, swing.

Remember, Wes and I wrote a plane with Jimmy G from Indianapolis to Los Angeles and actually spoke to him a number of times. When no one knew who he was and where he'd go and what he'd become, you know, a lot of other things happened on that plane flight too, but that was one of the highlights. I think I know the one you're referring to. And other Deshaun Watson News, this is just something to keep an eye on. here. There are allegations of a sexual assault involving Watson here. A lawsuit includes allegations

from a female masseuse that Watson, quote, went too far during a massage. And Watson came out at social media and vigorously denied everything involved in terms of the charges and called it a shakedown. So that is kind of now something just percolating as part of the story around Watson. We'll see how that all plays out. In other free agency news, let's get to free agency, things have calmed down a little bit, but still a lot of stuff going on. We'll start with Trent Williams. The left tackle signs a monster extension with the San Francisco 49ers, six years, 138 million, 55 of it guaranteed 30 million in a signing bonus. The 32-year-old is locked and loaded as the blindside protector of perhaps Jimmy Garoppolo or whomever else in the future.

So after I think he was number one, Greg, on your free agency top 101, he is off the board in a big way. I like the, I wouldn't call it pettiness, but just like a bookkeeping detail that they added $10,000 to the end of this $138 million contract. So he could be the highest paid left tackle in history. That's a solid. Like, who's doing that? The agent or the player? I don't even know. But he just, he wanted to be the guy. And he proved, you know, a nice prediction I put in there that. I thought he would. In this free agency where I do feel team players are getting a little less than they would normally. Trent Williams got paid full price. And he's kind of the photo negative of Levi-on-Bel's sitting out a year. So we said, well, that didn't work out for Levi-on, but it worked out well for Trent Williams. His was for a different reason. It was more. mostly his displeasure with the Washington franchise and a little bit of injury situation.

But he sat out a year, bet out himself, said, you can't tag me. I'll play for you one year a little below market. And now he's awesome and he's rich. I think it's interesting that the chiefs who obviously need tackle help push really hard to sign him, and that he turned down the chance to go and play with Patrick Mahomes and probably walk right into a Super Bowl. I guess it shows true belief in the Niners, too. It can't just be about money. I mean, although that's what everyone tells me it's all about.

Well, he was drafted by Kyle Sannahan and Matt and Mike Sanahan back in Washington, so he has a nice history there and clearly likes playing for him. I mean, if you're an organization that's being run the right way and you have a guy in the building, you have a chance to make him comfortable and make him like where he is. And I think that certainly helped the Niners in this case as well. You mentioned Lavian Bell. Is he even going to get a job this off season? Is his career over?

I mean, what a stunning downfall, if that's the case. He was on a Hall of Fame trajectory before he got into his squabbles with Pittsburgh. I think it could be over, unless he's going to take like a minimum deal and compete for a spot in camp. That's kind of where he's. No major injury, sat out the year over contract issues, came back with the Jets, got a nice deal, wasn't nearly the same player. They thought maybe getting him out of the Adam Gase offense, sending him to the Chiefs, would spark him did not. And it's one of those really,

it's a head scratcher because I think he's what, 28, 29 now? And it's almost like the elite football in his body just disappeared. He also disappeared from the Steelers and that attack, but interesting story there. No questioning his desire

to probably, I would, someone who I'd call a lifer, I expect him to come back and play another eight or nine years if not eight or nine months. And moving on, the Cardinals are making moves. They'll start at wide receiver. They signed A.J. Green to a one-year, $8 million contract.

He's going to be 33 years old this summer. Didn't look. I mean, he looked like, this is kind of like Levi-on-Bell. He's a few years older, so you think Father Time's playing a role here. But it almost seemed like he went from an elite player to a below-average player overnight. Last season was not good statistically for him, even with an ascended. young quarterback in Joe Burrow. The Cardinals now are going to take a chance.

And it makes you wonder if Larry Fitzgerald is going to hang up the cleats here. It's been very quiet on that front about whether he's coming back or not. Not A.J. Green now is in the equation. I was very surprised he got $6 million guaranteed. Very. They're not a lot of money over there. They're making some aggressive moves. He didn't.

He didn't look good last year. You know, I really thought you looked at him. And I think that was a nice receiver group in general. three good young receivers. You see him next to, you know, T. Higgins, and even Auden-Tate was like their fourth. And they're like, you could just see them both on the field at the same time, and they all just, they looked like young and explosive,

and AJ Green did not. So I don't know. He became like a point of the catch guy. It's like he, you know, everyone, I saw NFL number going crazy about this, and it's like talking about how strong his hands are and all this stuff. That's fine. I mean, but he's not the same player. And to me, the money is weird.

and it's the classic free agent signing where everyone's going Gaga over it, but he hasn't been A.J. Green in two plus seasons. Value, as West would say, value the game, not the name. Fitzgerald is going to retire, according to Mike Floreo, or have to sign elsewhere. He put something out there. He didn't say sources, but he made it clear

he wasn't basing it on nothing that the Cardinals were kind of done with him. He put it out there in a nice way, which makes sense. He averaged seven yards. per catch last year. He played a lot and did not produce Larry Fitzgerald. And he's turning 39. So I think it's probably the end of the road for him. Yeah. First round pick way back in I believe 2004. An amazing Hall fame career for Larry Fitzgerald. If this is the

end, we'll keep an eye on that. And another Cardinals news, Rodney Hudson, you know, we're just talking about him. And the news that came out yesterday indicated that the Raiders had released their veteran center, which was surprising and head scratching. Well, it didn't turn out to be release, it turns into a trade. So he's out the door, but it's the next closest thing. They trade Hudson to the Cardinals in exchange for a third round pick, and they swap seventh rounders. Excuse me, Cardinals acquire Hudson and a seventh round pick from the Raiders in exchange for a third round pick. So that is a nice pickup for Arizona. Hudson, as we talked about yesterday, has really had a nice career. I like thinking of the sauce, see how this sausage gets

made on one like this. I'm a little, I'm curious. how this all went down. Do you think the media played a role in the Raiders changing their... I don't know. Like, did the Raiders not realize he could acquire a third round pick? Was Ian just putting it out there and they knew that then, like, because the GM app is not around Dan, maybe they're kind of using Ian as a way to put it out there. Or was it just like some imprecise language going on? Like, we were going to put them on the top 101. And, he never even was a free agent. It was a little strange.

The whole thing was strange. This is how the GM app works. It's very simple, and I just need an HTML guy to help build it with me. If you're out there, please hit me up. My DMs are open. No, they're not. All you have to do is in the subject line, center, Rodney Hudson. You click into it, okay?

Then you have his contract details, how many guaranteed years he's left, what's owed, all that type of nitty-gritty information. and then what I'm looking for and put mid-round pick hit me up in my DMs. And then you have that out there to 31 other teams and it just takes one nibble to have it

and if you get two, then you can start leveraging them against each other. Maybe you open a three-way chat and you get the three of them together and we just really figure it out. But that's how it works. It would absolutely be effective. It sounds like an incredible platform.

And it's like when you come up with ideas like this, usually like other people around the globe are coming up with similar ideas. And I'm surprised, well, it says a lot, Dan, that you're the only one who's come up with this. It's not been done. And I would ask you that could someone sneaky like a Jack Easterby get into the forum? Or is it simply the person with the GM title? Like, can you, you know, there are other like pesky people in every organization, you know, striving for power. There has to be a gatekeeper. That's what I'd hire Greg. I'd give Greg about, What can I pay Greg that he would say yes to do it?

I would pay Greg $15,000. Right. You got to get to five figures and you could have low-balled me at 10. I would have done it for 10. So I give Greg 15K and he becomes the gatekeeper. And people actually have to submit, like I just went through this with the whole home process. The final part of submitting an offer is writing a letter to the buyers, explaining why you want the house. And it's a way to kind of add a little personal touch if you're in competition.

they have to submit a letter of intent to Greg and then he'll decide whether to let you. 15 grand feels low in a trade where there's like maybe 2,800 transactions a year. I mean, Greg is going to be, there will be no time for Greg's based job anymore. Well, yeah, between me and the HTML guy, I mean, he's going to have to figure out

how to get the three-way chat going. I mean, it was one thing when it was. I think it's a little deeper than HTML, but yes. No, that's the whole thing I want to. It's got to be expensive. It's got to be expensive. Well, I think, to your point, doesn't your wife work in that realm, Mark?

Sure, but I'm going to need more than $15,000, you know, to stack another responsibility onto her. I'm going to undercutter. I'll do it for 10. I need that money. I'll do it for nine now. We'll do it for nine. This is how it works.

There must have been another team in that app, by the way, for it to go all the way up to third. That was the whole thing. They were going to cut them, and it's like they must have had other teams bidding to get it to third. All right. Where are we? Where are we?

Moving on. Ooh, Jacoby Brissette has a job. A new job. Slides me off a piece of that. He joins the Miami Dolphins as their new backup quarterback behind Tua, Tunga Vailoa. And that's a nice landing spot for Jake Brisket. And it does, you know, it jumps out to me when I saw this news and I had written about this on the website maybe a month ago. that one of the reasons why it didn't feel like Ryan Fitzpatrick made sense is the future of the

Dolphins is like he was too good at the job and he was too he was too popular with the fan base and Tua is just a kid and he's trying to figure this thing out and you have this guy that is essentially the most popular player in the league on some level in terms of everyone loves Ryan Fitzpatrick right like not in terms he's not like as big as like the true superstars but you know what I mean he's just such a fan favorite it became almost a distraction in this goal of building out Tua as your franchise quarterback. You get Jake Brisket in there, and you're okay. You don't have to worry about the fans clamoring for Jake Brisket.

So we've seen a lot of Jake Brisket, and Jake Brisket is Jake Brisket. So what do the cults always say about Jake Brisket? Great teammate, you know, willing to do anything, stepped in in a tough situation. Ryan Fitzpatrick is just simply too charismatic, and it gets too freaky and too good at times. that's a load for your coaching staff to handle as your backup quarterback. So I totally agree with you. I think to me, though, anything could happen, but it shuts down for me the idea that the dolphins would package Tua away for Dishan Watson.

I just don't, that team to me feels like a no-go on that point. What does that have to do with Jake Prisket, though? I just think that they, to the point of getting a backup that is clearly below Tua's, like intrigue level that they're just going forward to also everything they've just said about to i just think that they're that's their quarterback room and i don't think you adding to sean watson to that is happening who knows but would you would you would you think they're a candidate i don't is it was that the jake brisket signing by the way enough of the slander on jake brisket nice quarterback last time he was truly healthy tell me tell me where i'm wrong

jake brisket slice me off a piece of that jake brisket i would have been happy to see him in New England. Do you know exactly what I'm saying, though, when I say Jake Brisket is Jake Brisket? Yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm not saying he's a bad guy or a bad player. No, I know. But the, the, uh, the, uh, Brisket Homers out there would point to that first half of his season with Indianapolis before he heard his shoulder and things were looking pretty good. And then he, he stinks with a bum shoulder and then he gets replaced it. That's But you're not intrigued to yank to, uh, or take two out of the picture. I think that stands. I agree with your point. I agree with your point. I do think if they had any chance to get to Sean Watson,

they would sell to it down the river. That's what I think. I think you're right about that. In other news, the bills parted ways with John Brown last week. They replaced him with Emmanuel Sanders. This guy's starting to pile up some freaking frequent, freaking frequent flyer miles here, Manny Sanders. It is a one-year, six million dollar contract. Nice value. Sanders is a little up there now a little long in the tooth at 34 years old but he has always been a nice consistent number two number three type guy and maybe he gives them somebody who's a little bit more durable and can you know make some plays with Josh Allen good spot for him like if you're if you're into him as a fantasy guy or whatever because he didn't do great in New Orleans you mentioned

frequent flyer miles though gets me thinking like I've been racking up these frequent flyer miles on my credit card this last year like what it just feels worthless i guess someday in theory i'll i'll use them but it's just like a currency that doesn't matter anymore well right now yeah you will get on an airplane again at some point i would imagine that's that here's that wide receiver room uh as gregg ponders air flight in the future emmanuel sanders uh joined stepan diggs he's the true number one cole beasley who had that big breakout season last year, and you have second year man, Gabriel Davis, as well. So Sanders slides in there. He should, yeah, he should play plenty there. It's a nice group. It's a nice

group. Yep. Speaking of John Brown, he lands on his feet with the Las Vegas Raiders, and he replaces Nelson Aguilar, who went to the Patriots. And Greg, help me out with this. I don't remember exactly what Aguilar signed for. So maybe it's just a matter. Two for 26. But they never said what the guarantees. It might be a one year deal, but they never, they haven't said that one yet. All right.

And John Brown now. It is. It's one year. Yeah, I don't see what the, the figures are for John Brown here. But I. It's one of your classic up to $5.5 million from what I've got. I just thought, you know, Aguilar was a guy. They probably should have tried harder to keep around considering he had such a good rapport with

Derek Carr and had really busted out last year. John Brown, we talked about it last week, a longtime West favorite, a guy who can make plenty of plays, but maybe a bit of a durability concern there. I thought Aguilar was a good fit in Las Vegas. Good value, though. I agree with you, but I like this move just because I like John Brown. And I'd rather have John Brown than Marvin Jones, who got a lot more money, or A.J. Green, who got a lot more money.

I think he'll matter. Like, we do the winners and I do the winners and losers on the website. And it's like yesterday, Derek Carr's a loser because they lost Rodney Hudson and they're losing Aguilar, losing all the... And then it's like today, well, actually, Incognito's coming back and you got John Brown, which I'm fine with the John Brown for Aguilar trade. That seems close enough. It's like, okay, maybe today Derek Carr is a winner. This John Brown deal is the kind of deal that I think the Patriots would have made if they weren't like cracking open piggy banks this offseason. I agree.

which nobody has those anymore that's a stupid reference my kid does we have a piggy bank we're still in the mix okay you might be surprised to learn Mark that my kids have a Godzilla piggy bank

no I'm not well that's not a piggy bank and by nature it's not that it would need to be shaped like a okay but I'm just saying if adults used to have them for some reason they don't anymore I guess it has to be the shaped as a pig to qualify as the piggy bank

I always thought that was more just like any type of little kids like bank holder thing He just called a piggy bank. Is that how deep your vegetarianism goes? You would not even support a piggy bank inside your house, Mark? No, I would. I mean, my children have little cups with a hole in the top to put coins in, but I don't walk around calling that a piggy bank.

All right? You know, Mark, this has nothing to do with banks. Well done, Ricky. Yes, Greg. I I ate something I ordered something to pick up

the other week called that was yak chili and whenever I eat yards after catch chili a little left of center like eating some yak I think of you

because you always make fun of that I eat that like us meat eaters eat terrible things and you know like intestines and things like that this yak was damn delicious well I think of you

when I think about things like that but I actually it reminds me I had a dream last night that I ate, like, multiple strips of, like, crispy bacon. How was it? Was it a nightmare or you liked it? No, I think it was because I used to.

It was fine, but I don't remember how it tasted in the dream. It wasn't, or what that sensory part of it didn't click in. I remember there was a night. And realizing I did it. There was a night years ago, Mark. You and I were out, I'm guessing we were at the cozy near the office. And then we were going to grab some food before going back to our respective home. and you know letting our wives know we were still alive and so I got a like a meat burrito

of some kind and then you got like a vegetarian one and then do you remember this you remember yeah I was yeah exactly like the meat somehow the was the positive some of the meat ended up in Mark's burrito and Mark took a bite and then flash forward like 20 seconds later Mark is in a bush yacking it out speaking of yaks yeah they snuck some sort of like like weird piece of pork or something in there and it was yeah it was not good a weird piece of pork uh all right moving on the washington football team signed cornerback william jackson formerly of the bangles three years 42 million good to be a cornerback uh he gets 26 million guaranteed the former first round pick in 2016 bangles uh choose to let him head out the door and

Washington shorts up their secondary some. You can tell what positions are hard to find because there are no good cornerbacks left on the market. There weren't that many, there weren't any to begin with practically. Shaq Griffin went to Jacksonville, William Jackson there, and there's not really any offensive lineman left. Like the top 25 is pretty decimated other than the receivers. We do have a bunch of big name receivers still out there that we're waiting on.

I was going to hit who's left in a second. Let's do 8 o'clock delight. Sure. Is this drop okay with you, Mark? Yeah, this is pleasant. Okay, good. The Colts bring back Marlon Mack. Of course, he blew as Achilles last September, but he's coming back to Indy.

Love Marlon Mac. Nice backfield there, Taylor, Heinz, Mac. Trevor Lawrence is the number one overall pick, or he's about to be, for the Jacksonville's Jaguars. And now there's a report out there that they're taking calls on Gardner Meenchu. What kind of market should mean chew? How about Meenchu to Denver, Sizzler? I love Gardner Minchu, but I don't know if you... I don't understand why people would be calling as a starter.

That surprises me. The line straight for Michael Brockers and signed Jamal Williams. Little salary dump. The Rams, it was confusing how they got under the salary cap. This was kind of part of it. This was just total salary dump. They basically gave up nothing to get them. Good player.

Right, but this is incredibly juicy because Brockers went on record after the Rams acquired Stafford and called him a level up from golf. Now he's been shipped to Detroit where he's back with level down, golf. Ooh, good, good angle. Outers. The Browns, they take a shot on Tack McKinley, who is a disaster for the Falcons. How you feel about this one, Mark? I mean, I kind of see, like, who knows, like they didn't pay him much.

he seems like a replacement for Adrian Claiborne, not like their guy across from Miles Garrett. They play like a 4-25 as a base, so they just need to keep finding edge dudes. All right, the Chiefs say goodbye to Super Bowl hero, Damien Williams, who opted out last year. You know, this gets me thinking like the CJ Mosley trade rumors around the Jets. Everybody was so, it was so big on everyone to say and report it,

as is his right. He is opting out of the 2020 season, to COVID-19, and I'm not making light of COVID-19 or what anyone's personal situations were. But, yes, perhaps this is right, but it is maybe not in your best football interests to disappear for a year. And that might be the case for Damien Williams. Opt-out revenge. The last time we talked to Damien Williams, I remember, is that the Super Bowl?

A hearty debate with our friend, Wes, where he thought Damien Williams maybe deserve that MVP. I kind of enjoyed that because I got sandwiches on that one. It was all fired up. I remember that. Also, oh, my old friend, Lamar Miller, a 14-time-making-the-leap nominee on the old around the NFL blog days. He is back in the league, according to Greg's notes. Washington.

Thank you. With Washington. I don't know. I saw Lamar Miller. I was like, wow, first day signing Lamar Miller. Let's get Dan's old buddy into the show. No, that's good. I just throw a W-A-S in there next time.

Not really headline news on any website. People have no idea what's happening, but Greg, very nicely. We'll take turns. But Greg has been great this week about sending out. Here's like the 18 or 19 head spinning things that happen. But sometimes Greg's sentences are very complete and you know exactly what happens. But there are times when it's hard to decipher. And I think, Dan, you ran into some of that.

Typically, I have more in the way of preparation time. This week, obviously, has been very busy for me. so I was kind of flying blind there off Greg's notes and it got me there didn't know where Lamar Miller ended up I didn't have a chance to look that up but I did give you the information you really needed which was Mark's Greg's notes were

Dan's buddy Lamar Miller back in the league Yeah that was what was key That was what was key I mean I don't think he's going to make a big big splash here Speaking of big splash There are big splashes still to come.

I'm going to pull up your old boss, well, it's from your old boss's website. Mike Florio. Shereen Williams wrote the top 25 remaining free agents, Greg. Is that on your radar a little bit? You write the top 101. Now you have someone that's coming in off the top turnbuckle with an updated top list

and maybe makes yours a little bit, I don't know, yesterday's news. I'm saying what it is. No, it's not a concern. especially because I just checked and I was wondering if the editors were going to do that at some point they start chopping off the players who have been signed and if you go to

NFL.com slash 101 you see the best available now that's what the list is you got to see it's there excellent right there all right so according to serene and maybe I should go over to Greg's list after that impassioned reply Kenny Galladay here's 10 big names still out there

Kenny Galladay, Anthony Harris, the Viking Safety, Juju Smith-Schuster, Hassan Reddick, the edge rusher with the Cardinals last year, Troy Hill, Rams cornerback, Mitchell Schwartz, cut by the Chiefs last week, the tackle, Will Fuller still out there. Carlos Dunlop, A.J. Boyer, and Mitch Tribesky, amongst, hey, some veterans that are named brands, but buyer beware at this point. Patrick Peterson, to Davian Clowny, T.Y. Hilt.

Melvin Ingram, all big names still looking for work. I mean, was that like in order, her order? Here we go. The first eight or nine was. Yeah, some of those names toward the- Gregg, do you agree with her order? Well, some of those names towards the top,

like Boyer, Trubisky, there was a couple others that seemed curious. Let me look at Greg's list. I'm curious. But I also have Clowny right now is the second highest, which maybe you wouldn't like. Curtis Samuel. Did I hear Curtis Samuel in there? He's on the list. I didn't mention it.

That's a spicy one. Oh, there it is. All right, here's Greg's best free agents available since he's clearly angling to get this listed. No, I mean, you basically just set him off. Throwing a Dory Jackson, Malcolm Butler, like there's some other good names. You said my top one. So you have, but you have, we were talking about this yesterday. Clowny is your second best available option left now.

I just can't get on board with that. At what point does this guy not get the benefit of the doubt? You have Galday, Clowny, Will Fuller, Samuel, Juju, Mitchell Schwartz, Justin Houston, interesting there. Hassan Reddick, T.Y Hilton, Carlos Dunlop, Adoray, Jackson, David Andrews, Anthony Harris. Well, who would you put above Clowny or how many? I wouldn't put too many of those above Clowny. Maybe some of those received. Maybe some of those are eight or ten of them.

Here's the thing. I like him. Maybe I overrated him this year because I was sort of anticipating, like, I like the idea of buying low on him. Whenever he's played, he's still productive, not last year. But that's, he's still 28, 29. You're going to get him at a discount. You're going to, yeah, that's fair.

You're going to get him at a discount. Man, Wolfiler was good last year, by the way. The dolphins will sign one of these receivers, but that's been one of my surprises early is in terms of quiet teams that the dolphins haven't really done much. But it wouldn't surprise me if they signed David Andrews, the Patriots Center. They've been rumored to, and I think they will sign one of these receivers, whether it's Gulladay or maybe Fuller. Buller was really good last year.

And I know he had a ton of injury issues before last year. And, of course, his season ended on a PED suspension that actually carries over one game into 2021. Those are all obvious red flags. But he's a good buy-low guy on. Sign him on a short-term deal. He'd fit in Miami. He'd fit almost anywhere. Put him in New England.

They should sign one more receiver. I think. This is right. All right. That's it for today's show. We have one more show this week on the podcast side of things. And then we have the television show, the Around the NFL broadcast, an NFL network on Friday afternoon. So make sure to set your DVRs for that and those overseas.

I believe you can access it via the GamePass app, I believe. I hope so. I seem we do get a lot of tweets from people overseas with a nice frosty beverage watching our program. So I guess there is access to it on some level. There must be. All right, good. And speaking of overseas listeners, happy St. Patrick's Day. Oh, yeah.

Tell them Irish out there. And speaking of other, you know, another overseas listener that has some power out there. How about our old bosses at Sky Sports? I know they have a Sky Sports NFL channel. So if you are listening, you know, Mace. whoever it is, let's get the around the NFL broadcast on that channel. What are we got to do? That's pre-packaged.

That's way over our heads. Right. It's award-winning content that they can just take and plop right on their own network and delight many. So what are we doing here? I mean, oh, what awards did you win? Oh, the 2013 Best New Podcast Award from Apple. And also, we did win a Stitcher that a former producer had shipped directly to her apartment.

so that happened Erica that by the way in case I don't know if you're picking up what Greg's putting down there but that would be something that would probably fall under the producer's tasks oh the guys just had a good idea you Greg

wait the sky sports thing it would be on unfortunately I feel like that's good Ricky's the producer she connects with the producer over there Mace hey the guys had kind of a fun idea

I don't know if you caught it on the show I bet the listeners overseas would love to see the guys. Is that something that could happen? And that's how a producer gets the ball rolling. Start the ball rolling. But this feels like these are some shadowy league figures at the highest levels, the type who are making these decisions that we don't even are in contact with. I mean, we largely circumvented then to even be on Skies.

So why don't we just go a step further and give them our television show without alerting them? That will go over fine. I would say if you sent a pirated version of our program to United Kingdom and other territories, it will be a good test about, on a lot of levels, like where we stand with the company. I mean, I don't have too many questions about where we stand, but yeah. All right, good. All right, good stuff. Keep tuning in. We'll keep turning out the content.

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