NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Free Agency Frenzy Day 1: Weekend Trades, Jimmy G to Raiders, and more

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal and Colleen Wolfe recap a frenetic first day of free agency as the negotiating window is officially open. Aaron Rodgers still hasn't made a decision (1:00), Jimmy Garoppolo has a new home (10:16), the Panthers traded for the no. 1 overall pick on Friday (16:18), the Bears were active (25:29), Jalen Ramsey was also traded over the weekend (29:56), Javon Hargrave is expected to leave the Eagles but a couple players are returning (38:27), the Broncos made a few moves (44:23), a handful of players could be traded soon (47:52), Jawaan Taylor plans to sign with the Chiefs (50:56), and the Falcons were busy on Monday (54:10). We round up a number of other moves (1:01:01) before finishing the show with Odds and Ends (1:22:19). Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Los Angeles Rams are finalizing a trade to send Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins. It's Jimmy Garofalo, headed to the Las Vegas Raiders. Carolina Panthers are moving all the way from number nine to the number one overall selection. Chris Lindstrom was not slated to be a free agent, but the falcons said now is the time for us to do a big extension. Johnny Smith has been traded to the Atlanta Falcons. David on Yamada winds up with the Atlanta Falcons. Jesse Bates is going to the Falcons.

The Baltimore Ravens just announced that they have released. Javon Hargrave, he is going to the San Francisco 49ers. The Broncos are signing Ben Powers. Mike Manglianchu is signing a deal with the Denver Broncos. Juan Taylor now heads to Kansas City. Jason Kelsey has announced on Twitter that he plans to return. The Chicago Bears, they are signing Tremay. Edmund.

Aaron Rogers, of course, is on his own time schedule. He is in his own time frame. And we are just going to sit here and wait until he decides to do what he's going to do. From the Chris Wessling podcast studio, it's around the NFL free agency, Frenzy Edition. Dan Hans us here with Mark Sessler, Greg Rosethall, and the great Colleen Wolf. They have stripped the need for us to literally do the show. They just announced everything that's happened.

I figure we just talk for five minutes and then we're out. Get out of here. A little bit of a life act. I mean, it's going to be tough to top Jonu Smith getting into the rundown right there at the top of the show is the biggest upset of the season. Sizzle for a seventh round pick into the top of the show. He goes.

Don't have to talk about it now. Former Titan. Now I get it. Welcome. There it is. Welcome, welcome, welcome to a big week on the NFL calendar. The tampering period has begun. Started at 1 p.m. Eastern today. Was it? Was it at one?

I think they called the negotiating period. They're trying to get rid of the legal tampering nomenclature. Ah, that's very nice one. Nomuncleture. No, I said it wrong now. Yeah, now you said it wrong too. One Eastern, actually. One Eastern.

When I rolled in minutes after. 12 Eastern. 12 Eastern. Nine Pacific. And we have been tracking it for hours and hours. Obviously. You heard that at the end. The Aaron Rogers of it all, despite it's seeming like it's a thing that's going to happen,

between the Jets and Aaron Rogers and the Packers moving forward as we're taping right now. That's not official. But it feels like it's going to happen. I don't even care. It's like, oh, Dan, why are you even saying that? You're going to jinx it.

If it's not going to happen, that's fine too. Honestly, we're going to pivot and figure something out as Jets fans. Because if this turns out to be Aaron Rogers hasn't made a decision yet, and he sent both of these teams into free agency without knowing the plan for Rogers, if he ends up chicken and out and retiring or whatever

or forcing his way back to the Packers, have fun. I'll deal with that. But it's just amazing that we couldn't just get the news and have a part of the show, but this is part of the Rogers experience. He specializes in this type of March drama. And I mean, just to be real,

we were, you know, we care about the news and itself and there's a Jets angle to it with you, Dan, for our show. So it was like all weekend long was like, if this thing happens, wherever you are in your weekend plans, if you're with children or wherever, you were going to be dropping what you're doing to talk about Aaron Rogers. And so I just, like, it kind of created this weekend long tension where it's like, when does Mark pursue his own activities?

When do I pursue my own passions? Did you actually not do anything you intended to do this weekend? I would absolutely say that that is the case. He gave some examples. And I believe him. Well, I would say it's a Saturday afternoon. Like, what if I want to go do things around the city? That would be, you know, Mark.

ask or something that someone my age would want to go do. It's like you have to sit around and wait to find out that this guy is going to join the judge. He's making sacrifices. He was trying to stay as, you know, clean and sober as possible. Yeah. And then, you know, so Aaron Rogers in a way promoting healthy living. I guess.

But I really appreciated, you know, there were a couple times when Graver sort of stepped in and said, well, I need to be at like an Oscars party at 4 p.m. on Sunday providing a clear cutoff and then you know we don't have to deal with this. That was the only thing that was made clear by anyone. over the weekend, Graver was like, I'm hosting an Oscars party. So, FYI, Sunday from about 3 p.m. Pacific onward is not going to work.

Right. And we had no choice. We were hamstrung. Oh, we would have made him do it. Or found someone that could. I could have dropped everything for that. How about Greg? Greg on Saturday was just like, I'm out Saturday.

Sorry, I was ours out. I appreciated that as well. I had a hotel room going to Indian Wells to watch the tennis. Right, which was fine. Do that every year. I wasn't staying home. It's okay to have a life. I had Keith Hanses on retainer

if the Rogers thing happened over the weekend. We would have knocked out some type of reaction show and then hit it harder today. But going back to the main point, we're still waiting. So that's it for now. I thought that maybe it was going to happen once I saw all of the Jets players tweeting.

Garrett Wilson, I can finally enjoy my vacay now. He said, y'all should see the smile right now that I have on my face. I think Sauce Gardner tweeted something out as well. Yeah, it's like a tipping point. Uh-huh? Then no. Apparently not.

I was speeding here in my car. trading like it's happening. I've thought all along it's happening. That's why when Dan was sending out these fake trades for Ryan Tannahill and... This morning was a little tough. Matthew Stafford, which were suspiciously favorable to the Jets in terms of the terms. It's like, oh, we're going to give you a Johnny Smith's corpse and like a seventh round pick for your quarterback. I don't think a third for Ryan Tannahill is out of bounds.

Maybe not. But on Corey Davis back to Nashville? Why not? The Stafford ones seem a little outrageous. But when Trey Wingo sent the tweet out, and we should move on to everything that has happened, because we're going to do a full Rogers pot at some point. Are we?

Yes. Are we, though? I don't know. Do we know anything? Everybody keeps on making a very good point on Twitter. It's like, what is the most Aaron Rogers way for this to end? Probably to just draw this thing out until, like, August. Here's a thing.

Oh, my God. Don't say that. I think those Jets players. Scott Pioly will explode on the set somewhere. He was not happy about this today. They were reacting, I believe, off of Trey Wingo's report. And I don't know if they know Trey Wingo's history with reporting Rogers news, but we do. And I think he's proven he has the beat.

He is the Rogers beat. He had the news he was returning last year. He had the news last week that he was going to be able to talk to the Jets. So that's two massive stories that this guy who never breaks anything, because that's not really his role, breaks. I'm going to trust that it is happening. Two hours ago, or was it two hours ago, Wingo had adhering Rogers to the Jets as done. History about to repeat itself between New York and Green Bay. Time is indeed a flat circle.

And yes, I am plugged in and up on this that Scott Pioli, who was, they did a great job all through the morning in NFL network with Andrew and move the sticks and Steve and Cynthia and Scott. And they had a whole segment based off my hypothetical trade tweets, which was pretty surreal to be watching that on the couch happening. And then I was talking to Pioli in the newsroom and he was like, he's like so many other people that are just like, I'm sick of talking about this guy, I'm sick of hypothetical this or that, like make a decision to move on. We get that.

I get that. I'm frustrated about it as well as everyone can imagine. And I think everybody is now because everybody wants to kind of move forward. So we'll see if it happens. I think this is happening. It's like they're figuring this out. That'd be my guess.

I have to say Scott Piole, a real gentleman. I sneezed twice over the once and then an hour and a half late. later, and both times from a, you know, a couple cubicles away, bless you, he said to me twice. He also, no one else in the newsroom, said a word. From a couple cubes away, I heard him ask Cynthia, what is that howling noise? Which was Dan howling and making all sorts of different noises just randomly. We had to get him out of the newsroom to get him in here.

Routine that I sometimes go through. It's not totally something I can control, and I wish that. Can we get a little. Sampling of it? I don't even know. I don't even know. It's a bit of a wearable thing. You're getting the energy going, the vocal cords.

We were having a, this felt like an old school news day because, you know, I was telling Konging, our newsroom now, it's very nice, it's very technologically sound, but it has a little bit of a third-rate death star feel to it where there's low, weird energy at times. Well, I mean, the first-rate death star. Well, I mean, the first rate is blowing up other planets. So this is like basically just like. Oh, you mean in terms of their intentions against enemies? It feels just sort of like.

like empty and hollow here sometimes. And then you bring in a soundboard that's called Dan Hansis. Into the death star. We had the full slate of talent in there today. It felt like a real newsday for what I liked it. You finally got back at Scott Pioly for drafting Todd Brady and all the pain that he brought you.

Yeah, that's all right. Did he, oh, he was there. Good for him. I like Scott. Good dude. Eisen, by the way, Rich Eisen, who's also a well-known Jets fan, pulled into the parking lot.

I think he was going to his car to get something. and he sees me to pull in. I said, I rolled down my window. I was like, well, when's this going to happen, which maybe he's waiting for you to get on air? And he goes, man, you've got to relax. No. No, he said that to me down in makeup.

He's like, Dan's got to stop tweeting all this stuff. He's spiraling out of control, basically. You're on the radar. It's hard. It's hard. All right. So that's the Roger situation. But let's dig into everything else that's going on in this first day of the legal tampering window.

The league year begins officially on Wednesday. you're not going to hear anything or you shouldn't hear anything about Lamar Jackson before Wednesday because the other huge name Lamar Jackson, of course, is without an agent. So, and this seems weird, but I don't even care. I don't want to talk about this stuff anymore with the agent stuff. He can't negotiate with other teams because he doesn't have a representative formally. So all that stuff is going to really pick up, I guess, on Wednesday hypothetically. So let's get into it.

Now let's get into the things that we do know. It's not about a quarterback, for instance, that we have a clear idea what's going to happen. Jimmy Garaplo, he's going to be a member of the Las Vegas Raiders. He gets $34 million guaranteed on a three-year deal from Vegas to play for Josh McDaniels. Again, none of this stuff can become official until Wednesday, but this is going to happen. We haven't a good authority. Greg, starting right here, you can clearly make an argument that Derrick Carr is as good or better. than Jimmy G.

But Jimmy G is also a guy that's had a good winning pedigree, and he's, let's face it, much cheaper. Yeah, I think it's 47 in the first two years of this contract, and they owed Carr close to 70. And so two for 47 is a little less than Gino Smith money. It's threading that needle, 34 guaranteed. And like all these, I want to see what that guaranteed really means. It might just be a one-year contract,

kind of like Derek Carr's was a year ago with the Raiders, where it's one for 24. It's like right in between that, to me, they're very much in the mix to draft a quarterback. They're reporting out of Vegas is that they will draft a quarterback. Now, if the right one doesn't fall to them at 7, maybe they won't be as anxious to trade up for a quarterback.

Maybe they'll be taking a guy in rounds two or three. We've seen McDaniels do that over the years too. But they have a guy in Jimmy G., who I always thought, and it's really stupid because it's based on like one start practically. The second start of 2016, when Tom Brady was suspended, and Wes and I went nuts for this game he had against Miami that was like Jimmy G. throwing a perfect game. And he looked so good in that system that maybe he's going to be better in the Josh McDaniels system. He just probably won't stay healthy because

he never stays healthy. I mean, there was a, you know, the Raiders and Aaron Rogers thing went quiet pretty quickly. And I think that if you want to, I'd want to know what exactly Josh McDaniels and company thought where they thought they'd wind up when they let Derek Carr fade away. I don't think this is too far from what they thought. I think this is it. This is it. I don't think Tom Brady. Tom Brady would have been an option, I think. There was whispering and reporting around that of being there's interest, but this was 1B, and I don't think it stops you from drafting anyone, because I think the whole reason you don't go chase Aaron Rogers, I think they do want to develop someone. And this gives you, it's a stopgap to some degree, but I think it's easy to hate on Jimmy G

where I thought he looked good with the Niners last year. I do wonder, though, because yes, he fits with Josh McDaniels, but any quarterback under Kyle Shanahan, what do you, what version of that quarterback to you get when you go to the next system? This is probably the next best fit for Jimmy G. Yeah, Jimmy G. I mean, look, the Raiders, they also lost their backup quarterback, Jared Stidham. So they need to put more into this position and almost every other position on the roster because they have so many needs. But the familiarity, I think, really helps. And if Jimmy G did not have the season that he did with the Niners last year, if Trey Lance did not go down and get hurt we i don't know would be having this conversation because jimmy g got the opportunity to show

that he still can be valuable to an organization now how much that has to do with kyle shanahan and what he does to this offense to manufacture points that's a totally different story yeah i would i think it makes all the sense in the world greg what you were saying like to get a quarterback in this draft be aggressive perhaps um add a high level backup i just think with gropolo it's like yeah The best case scenario was how he played in San Francisco, and it wasn't just Shanahan. It was incredible weapons. And to his credit, when he was on the field,

most of the time, he was good and sometimes even look great. So I don't think you're going to get that level of production, and he can't stay on the field. He's going to miss time because we've seen enough evidence over the years that this guy is not a starting quarterback that you can count on. Even when Tom Brady was suspended, he didn't make it through those four games. They had to bring in old Jake Brisket.

And I just wonder if, and I understand not to re-letigate the Derrick Carr of it all, I understand at a certain point, the organization decided it was time to kind of transition and go in a different direction. I just don't know if this is going to work out the way they hope it will, because I just don't think he's somebody you could trust as your QB1. And also, look at the defense that Jimmy G was playing with in San Francisco. This is vastly different in Las Vegas. Do you think that Jimmy G is an upgrade over Derek Carr? I actually do in this system. And I actually think he could be an upgrade over Jimmy G.

in San Francisco, not pure numbers-wise, but I think with McDaniels, what he does well, he could play a little better. But again, the ceiling on that is like 13th best quarterback in the league and you still might want to be... I worry less about his injury-prone. His ability to reduce and more about his ability to play. I mean, I worry more about where the Raiders are right now.

Just in general, I think he could play at the same level, but your environment compared to San Francisco's is a minus. They need to be very active and they will be. They haven't yet. They're not jumping into the free agency, but they have a ton of money available, a ton of needs. And I think this was a perfect kind of thread the needle, keep it cheap. Hey, Grave-Digger.

I was just thinking the breaking news drop has been in a bit of a slump on the show. Wouldn't it be the ultimate slump buster for the Rogers News or something else huge to come across the wire over the next hour or so? That's something to be excited about. Fingers crossed. You guys should check our messaging client frequently in case something happens. Thank you. I'll send it in.

Well, Graver has provided something which we can get to down the road, but it is Titans' ask, obviously. I wouldn't say it's breaking news, but it's just going to need you to open it up. Slip it in later. Yeah, but thank you. That's okay. Oh. Here we go.

Here we go. So we know the rate. There we go. I thought you were going to use the Colleen-related drop in that realm. That would have worked, too. Do you know what I'm talking about? That sounds kind of like a porn. There you go.

So we know the Raiders, the Raiders may or may not be in the business for a quarterback still in the draft, but we know the Panthers are in business. I mean, we did know already, but now we know NFL networks. Ian Rapport had it, and it is official. The Panthers acquired the number one overall pick from the Bears on Friday night, one of the great Friday news dumps of all time in exchange for DJ Moore. I don't think that was the intent to bury the news. Since anything, they probably are annoyed, they didn't get much pop from it.

In exchange for wide receiver, DJ Moore, a very good player. Number nine overall pick in this draft, the 2023 second round pick, a 2024 first round pick, and a 2025 second round pick. So, Mark, that gives Frank Reich the chance. He's the new head coach of the Panthers, the chance to handpick anyone from this college class. and I know Mark a lot of people were saying oh what a trade by the Bears and it was it was a great trade for the Bears

they get all those draft assets we talked about and you get a potential Pro Bowl level wide receiver and more to play with Justin Fields but if you've been tracking our league the last few years you know the Panthers has been dying every time they try to get a quarterback they want

people say no and it doesn't work out they made this trade so they could get who they want and nobody could tell them no Yep. I mean, I guess if you are like David Teper, you swung and missed on Matthew Stafford and watched them go win a Super Bowl somewhere else. They were in on Deshawn Watson and that didn't work out for them. There have been others. Well, I think you could argue at this point, yes. But they put themselves out there and they kept being like not, they were not able to seal the deal. So does the trade to me look a little bit desperate and bears rich? Yes. But I think if you're again, if you're David Teper like you are, you have.

But Frank Reich, you cannot settle Frank Reich with like the third or fourth best choice. And now it's like you can scout these quarterbacks all you want and have total buy-in on who you pick. And so from that angle in terms of being aggressive and there's a lot of a sense around the league in quotes for multiple reports that it's C.J. Stroud. But they can change their mind if that's not the case. They can pick their guy. It seems crazy. They don't know who it would be. Well, I think you'd have to, but I think it's C.J. Stroud is who they're pointing to. I'm not conspiracy theorist.

That's Mark's corner. on this podcast? Is it? I mean, maybe not out of this podcast. No, no, I just mean it. You should claim it. You should.

What I'm going to say is here. In a broader sense. Here is one conspiracy I do buy that the NFL doesn't want the number one overall pick out there. Oh, of course. And they say, don't let this info get out in these streets. Right. Because it'd be insane not to know who you want to take with the number one overall pick. Was that a rock with a message tied around it with rubber band thrown through Frank Reich's window?

Don't that anybody find that. this out. Yeah, I don't, I don't blame the Panthers. I'm saying like the league, you know, like, hey, let's, let's not let this get out there. I'm cool. I like a little mystery. Yeah, I'm fine with that. And the ripple effects of this too are so interesting. With the Texans sitting at number two, they thought that they would have their pick of any quarterback that they want. And now they don't have to make that decision because the Colts are going to take that with the first pick. The Panthers, yeah. Yeah, the Panthers. Although that's what I think this is about, because the Panthers are kind of putting it out there,

too, that, like, we could even trade down. Right. And we're still evaluating. And I think that's where they're going to see what information they can get between now and then. And there's, like, an outside chance they could feel confident enough if they're not taking Bryce Young that, that, okay, let's make the bear. Let's make the Texans trade up for Bryce Young.

And we end up picking up an extra pick and we still get our guy at number two. And I love that being an option all the way up to the final hour. I think it will be. Now I kind of think it will be. And, Mark, you said that, you know, could look or perhaps is a little bit desperate by Carolina. I agree because they did give up so much, including a star player and more. But if the guy that they get turns out to be a decade-plus answer or whatever, wait, I looked at the other trades though that were similar-ish, whence, you know, near the top of the draft,

Trey Lance near the top of the draft, RG3. They're all like the same. They all just, they just copy each other. It wasn't anymore. If anything, I would say they paid maybe less. The 49ers paid essentially the same just to get up to the number three pick. I think for the Bears, though. This is the number one pick all the way from nine.

In terms of the timing for the Bears, because absolutely you needed more wide-out power, more star power around fields. And to have DJ Moore, Chase Claypool, Darnell Mooney, and Cole Commet, that is a nice four-pack of targets. And it came during a free agency period that is not wide-out rich and a draft class that is not necessarily strong at wide out. So it was for Ryan Poles, I think it was a home run

to have DJ Moore be part of the deal. That's a great haul for them to get. I mean, DJ Moore, he has more career receiving yards than any player in Bears' history. Like, they're getting a legit... Wait, what? Yeah.

More career receiving yards than any player in the Bears' 100 plus year history. He's played like five years and he's not even one of the top 15... It's a lot of the Bears wide receiver. But still... It's still crazy.

I would rather. have DJ Moore at his salary and he's under contract for three years, $52 million than a first round pick. And that's how they looked at it by the reporting afterwards. It was like they looked at it like he is as good as a first round pick, if not better. And so then you look at it, you're basically just trading back eight picks. You still get the number nine pick. You get a first, you get two seconds and you get DJ Moore. And I think Claypool might end up being a little bit of a bus for them. But if he's like their number four receiver, you're not as a great trade. And for more, this is probably one of the best quarterbacks he's played with in Justin Fields.

But we don't even know. We're going to see. And that's saying more about the Panthers quarterbacks. It's been a hodge for sure. I would like to like, you know, anybody wants to join me, like declare war on the who won the blank of the offseason. Like who won the press conference, who won the trade. It's like we need not weeks or months, but years to know how it worked out with the quarterback for Carolina. What's going to happen with Justin Fields? What's the DJ Moore? era look like. How do these draft kicks pay out for right now? Both sides I think are happy with the outcome. Right. I'll give it. I'll give it a final grade right now.

That's how I like to do it. What is it? What is it? What is it? What is it? I give an A to the Bears and a B plus to the Panthers. See, I don't like that. I'm actually going to say you cannot grade it right now. I know what I'm saying people people. I'm with Dan though just that like they're so quick to be like oh the bears what a hall they get. It's like yeah that's the same hall everyone gets. It's like it. They're a nice luxury. Yeah. B plus. It's a nice luxury. What do you think about? the quarterback they got. I don't know who it is.

So how could you get the grade? I just think that they got good capital and a great wide receiver in a market where you don't have a lot of options. I think, yeah. I was going to say you don't have to take a chance. Right. If you don't have to give out a grade on a trade where we don't even know who's involved with it fully and how these guys play.

Well, we've just done that. So yes, you can. It's our job to talk about it. There we go. Right, Mark. I'm like Scott Pioly right now on the dais during NFL now, just like, amateurs. If the bears are wrong about justice. Fields, though, then it's a bad trade.

And they'll look at it, and I've heard this, too, that, like, well, if we're wrong about Justin Fields, and I don't think they will be, then we have the resources to go have a backstop before they fire everyone with all these picks. I would say, if you, the Panthers are here because they didn't pick Justin Fields, too. I mean, there's a whole alternate universe where it's someone like Chicago having to trade up to do all this business, but it's the Panthers having to do it because they didn't pick the quarterback when they had a chance. You know who leads this alternate universe, who created everything in the end?

The Daniels. The Daniels. Rodney Thomas. Fourth and 20 at the Colts 28. Mills all alone in the back field. Here's the snap. Davis looking. He scrambles out to the right.

Got to get rid of it. Throws it to the end zone and caught it Jordan Aikins. My goodness. On 4th and 20. Akins with the catch. Rodney Thomas misjudged it. I'll never forget sitting next to Greg that day and Greg was loving that whole situation

That whole game I was going crazy Yeah but if you're a Texans fan There's no way you found any real joy in that Watching your team slipped to number two Overall Some of those throws by Davis Mills in that game Including that last one I know it should have been picked

But he was like rolling right and got it there It was a tough throw He's an NFL quarterback He got it there I'm just saying You threw it right through the hands of a defender No I get it but he was rolling right And the pressure was coming

Just to even give a chance on that play was a good job by him. Davis Mills, what a start. Can we stay actually on the Bears even though I know there's, we'll get to the jail. We do have to take a break. We're going to take a break. Everybody relax. We're just getting warmed up here.

We'll be right back after this. All right. We are back. We're just digging into the first day if you're just tuning in. Because again, very strange if you were to do that with a podcast, but we're going through the first day of free agency unofficially. Greg, we're sticking with the bears. before we move on.

Yeah, they spent so much money on Monday. They announced their intent to kind of be that team this offseason. They have the most salary cap space and they have to spend some of it. And they were the first team to agree to a contract this morning on the West Coast. T.J. Edwards, I mean, 16 minutes. They somehow worked out like a very complicated three-year contract. What do you insinuated? With T.J. Edwards in like 16 minutes.

And T.J. Edwards was the first player off the board. And then later in the day, they gave a huge deal to Tremaine Edmonds, who I think is getting, what, 48 or something over the first two years of his contract. It's a four-year deal overall. He got paid, and they also paid a former Titan, Nate Davis, at Guard, pretty good money. So the Bears are that team this year, and it's just a little weird because off-ball linebacker, not a premium position. You didn't pay Roquan Smith.

I saw someone kind of make the point. Roquan Smith and Jack Sandborn, your guy. maybe greater than Tremaine Edmonds and T.J. Edwards. I think you could agree or disagree with that, but it is a curious couple of players, I think, to start your free agency spending. I think the Chicago Bears have been, like, prioritizing off-ball linebackers since the Mesozoic era.

I think this is the eighth incarnation of, like, them having two of these guys and their defense. And it's like a little bit of with the Matt Iberfluse experience, like he is, you hired him because of his defensive acumen, but then money is allocated towards that, where maybe in a different situation. Their first two draft picks last year, too, and it ended up being the worst defense in the league.

Edmonds will receive $50 million and guaranteed money on the deal. I mean, how much do the bears have in cab space here? It's like $100 million. $90 million. We got after the Jaguars just spending willy-nilly with their excess cap money last year and it ended up well for them

with their second year quarterback. But I like spending on offense. I mean, that's part of it. And I think Tremaine Edmonds, specifically, you're buying high. was in a perfect situation in Buffalo for five years. Great, each of those acquisitions in real time. No, I'm just kidding. Edwards is a B.

It's fine, B minus. When you really looked at the money, he was like the first deal that already looks phony in terms of what the agents told the reporters. It really is like a one for eight type of deal. It's not even 12 million guaranteed. And so that's fine, T.J. Edwards. Tremade Edmonds, I'm going to give like a C-minus, because you're investing in him at a high.

He's coming off the best season of his career by far. He was the first round pick of Deshawn McDermott era, and he was up and down. He had one really good year, and that was last year, and he's going to go into a much tougher situation. He's 24 years old. He's 6'4, 250, and runs a 4.5. So, like, I think that if you're Eberfluous, you're thinking, like, I'm going to get as good a version of men as the Bills did. You hope. You hope, but you're not surrounded by as much.

talent and it's just like they lost out on Mike McGlinchie and we'll get to that later earlier in the day and it almost felt like this was like a pivot we're going to spend on someone a lot of money regardless we didn't get McClinchie is that spending too much money at those positions specifically I think a lot of the league would say yes yes those are that's like one of the cheapest positions right like for instance the Eagles had Kaiser White last year playing their whole season for a you know 2.5 million on one year but especially though after you said we We don't want Roquant. We're not doing this with Roquant Smith.

So we've gone and spent almost as much over with the position. I'll just let you guys keep going on the bear's hate. I'm enjoying this. I mean, it's not a hate. How far can we take it? Keep going. Tramade Edmonds was like a top 15. Give it the gentleman's F, D-minus.

Go for it. Top 15 free in this crap. He just got that huge bump that happens every couple. No, they're going for it. I don't mind them just going for it from another angle. I do agree that building up the offense with pieces is sexier. But there are defense heads out there. I think it's smarter.

I mean, in terms of, like, it's safer and it goes up and down less. I think Edmonds and Edwards are kind of good examples. Like, if they were free agents a year ago at this time, would have they've gotten paid much at all? A lot of Eds. They were also losing games like 36 to 30 last year. Edmonds' agent, please. Make sure it gets to the player.

Well, he did a good job. The agent. Oh, yeah. He'll get it to the player, and then we'll have him on the show in the middle of June in the studio. Sounds good. another big move that happened while we are away. The Dolphins make another big blockbuster move. Jalen Ramsey is coming to Miami for a 2023rd, third round pick and tight end Hunter Long.

I'm pretty sure, not to Barry Harowitz, this, but I'm pretty sure I said Ramsey makes, I could see him as a Miami Dolphin. That felt like something that made sense. And it does especially make sense when you know where the dolphins see themselves right now, as a team that's all in. So after they went and got Bradley Chubb and a mega trade a few months back, now they add Ramsey to the backfield, Colleen, and you factor in.

They pick up the fifth year option for Tua. They go and get Mike White in free agency to be the kind of backup safety net. The Dolphins are looking to get to the Super Bowl with this roster right now. Yeah, they're making moves, and they should at this point. I'm already wondering if they're going to go after a running back, like Miles Sanders, considering the way that the run game ended last year and Mike McDaniel, former run game coordinator with San Francisco, like I think that they're really putting all of these pieces together.

But for Jalem Ramsey, I just felt like he was going to be back in Florida. In my head, I kind of liked the idea of him going back to Jacksonville with a totally different scenario. But... Him in his Brinks truck? Right. But going to Miami, I like it even more because of the past heat between himself. and Tyreek Hill.

If you guys remember back in 2018 when he was saying that Jalen Ramsey was saying that Tyree Kill was more of a punt return specialist or return specialist than a wide receiver. So those two, that'll be fun to see them play together. But the Miami secondary was the biggest area of weakness. It was something they needed to address. And so now that Byron Jones won't be returning, it looks like, when you have Jaylon Ramsey across from Xavier and Howard, you have two pieces that you can really build with.

I mean, we've seen the dolphins in past free agency incarnations go nuts. And like, it always had this feel of like, this is not going to go right. And it often just didn't. This feels different to me because of the coach, because of how quickly the offense responded to his coaching, the parts fit. And I think you got a different type of aura here in Miami. I like this. If I'm the Rams from a flip side and you're still hanging to Matthews. What are you telling Matthews?

in general about how this season and maybe next season... He's a pillar. Look, I just, I don't, I'm not convinced Matthew Stafford's even on this team. Who is on this team at this point? They cut Bobby Wagner, right? They cut, um, Leonard Floyd. Leonard Floyd. Now I'm wondering what's going to happen with Aaron Donald because he almost didn't

return last year after they won the Super Bowl. And now all of, when you have Jaylon Ramsey out of there too, I mean, this team is a skeleton through. They said those three guys they're building around Cup Donald. But you can say that, but you're removing a lot of the team that made this a special team a couple seasons ago. Last year was a disaster, but like it feels like a project. They're not getting out of this in a couple months. It feels like this season they're taking a step back to set up for next season.

You can't take too far a step back. I mean, the step back would be let's try to have a winning record and compete. And then next year we go try to win a Super Bowl. Was anyone else stunned how little interest Dail and Ramsey got around the league? I guess it depends on what you think he's going to have left in the tank and internally what people are talking about, whether they think he'll age well. I thought that was a sign.

I think he fits in the Fangio system perfectly. Brandon Stanley learned under Fangio. He used him dynamically. Like even if he plays a little more safety or near the line of scrimmage in the slot, like that's still worth a lot. He didn't like the whole like. That's a case for the GM app. That's for damn sure.

But I'm sure they asked around. No one wanted him. So what do you think that says, though? Yeah, it's surprising. I thought they could have gotten more than they did. But they did. Well, they're reporting, yeah, I don't think they could have because, I mean, maybe you had set it up. If they traded them last year, certainly.

Jordan Rodriguez mentioned at the athletic that there were five teams in the mix, that they were trying to trade them out of the NFC. I do get Sean McVeigh is a little Mike Shanahan-y vibes that, like, Sean McVeigh is the one running this team. Less need is involved and executes the vision, but I think Sean McVeigh is making the vision. I mean, we heard reporting that when they couldn't get Bonn Miller, Sean McVeigh is on the phone to other guys on the team being like,

what do you think of Allen Robinson? All right, let's go get Alan Robinson. Like, I think it's McVeigh. And I was just surprised they couldn't get more for Ramsey. Like, Ramsey didn't get that much more money. The whole idea was like, well, Ramsey wants more money. He wants more guaranteed money. we're not going to give it to him.

He didn't really get it from Miami. He got 2024 guaranteed. So that's a big deal. So two years guaranteed. Instead of one. But you obviously have this year guaranteed because you don't trade for him otherwise. So you got your year guaranteed. But he didn't get like a raise.

He just kind of got what was in there. I think it's 37 over two years. Pretty reasonable for a top shelf cornerback. I want to know who those other teams were. And I don't know if every team in the league signs up for the Jalen Ramsey experience. It's got to be, you've got to set the table well for, to add them to the whole thing. I wonder if that like narrative, though, just kind of got blown out of proportion when he was in Jacksonville. I don't know.

How much of it is true. These trade terms make me think it's a little true. I was surprised that a team wouldn't give him more money and that a team wouldn't give up more draft picks. It just didn't happen for him. Like, I think Jalen Ramsey's thrilled to be back in Miami, but I think going into this, the Rams have to be really disappointed with what they got for him. And I suspect Ramsey and his agent are disappointed with the. the money that they got. And as far as the Rams go, where they stand now,

I just would like to see, and I know they did the whole the whole showcase press conference saying these three guys are our pillars and all that. Showcase. Like when the chips are down and one of these teams, hopefully not mine, doesn't have the quarterback that they thought they were going to get in this game of musical chairs.

Let's see how much of a pillar Matthew Stafford is if the phone call, if the phone rings. Totally with you. And for a team like the Rams that is still, trying to build up because I hear and I think there is value, sneaky value

to be like yeah we're not viewed as a superpower but you know we could win nine or ten games and that we'll put people on the seats and we might get a

playoff game out of it like and we'll still have star power I think from like Stan Cronkey's view like making that kind of a goal for next year that makes sense but what also make sense

is if you have the opportunity to truly do a rebuild where you get a bunch of premium picks maybe that's kind of like the smarter long-term play if you want to win Super Bowls but these rebuilds

typically now the new fashionable rebuild is like a year for the well-run teams, right? But you come out of it, you come out of it typically with a young quarterback to build around. I don't know if I see or it can envision Matthew Stafford being the guy on the other side of this rebuild two years, three years from now. He was brought here for something else that he accomplished. I don't see the vision ahead for Matthew Stafford on this roster. I think if you're talking about we just, oh, we just learned we didn't trade Jalen Ramsey at the height of his powers.

and after giving so much for them, you gave up so much for Matthew Stafford. You're going to send them away for a year from now for a third round pick or something? I feel like the Jets losing Rogers would have been the only team desperate enough to give up a haul that would be worth it, especially considering the contracts that Donald and Cup and Stafford

signed a year ago kind of locked them in and locked the team in to having to pay them for a few years ago because they got paid after the Super Bowl. And that's why they are, quote, weight-bearing walls. So that's what they were. Their weight-buried walls. Is that what you want to be called? Similar to pillars, but not the same thing.

Different architecture. Well, like they said, a table with three legs. Problematic, typically. All right. Colleen, this is... That's a good sound job. Three-legged table, though, could be very sturdy in the right. A triangle-type table, but I don't think, right.

Sure. I mean, I own one of those pieces of the chair. Ideal, in fact. Three legs. That's in that case starting. You're talking about a square table? I'm talking about a square table. Tough spot.

Tough spot. It is. How about this AFC East, though? They're loading up there. Let's hold on that combo until we get the news on the other thing. Connie, I do want to check in with you. Let's talk about Jason Hargrave.

Javon Hargrave. Let's talk about Jason. Yeah, you're having to talk about him. He's going to the 49ers, a rival. I don't like it. 30 years old. What a study was on the inside of that incredible record-setting. defensive line for the Eagles 11 sacks

11 sacks from the interior Are you kidding me? And now it was beautiful He will be pushing that pocket For the San Francisco 49ers Getting 40 mil to do so For some reason it feels Extra personal that he's going to the Niners

Because they face them in the NFC championship The two top dogs on the conference It makes sense And I don't want to be like, you're a traitor It's going to be great for him Dallas San Francisco back in the day vibes A little bit little bit it's the thing is the eagles just have so many good free agents available especially on the defense but he was undoubtedly the best so you lose him and the fact was this eagle's defense especially the defensive line was so had so much depth so they were able to just like rotate and they were able to stay fresh and that was such a big part of their success was this pass rush that they were able to generate a pass rush from the interior with him and

they're just, they're going to miss him. They're going to miss him a lot. And I don't know how you replace his production, but they're going to have to. I think it slipped under the radar at the 49ers last year were like Bosa, defensive player of the year. Eric Armstead, great when he's out there, but missed a lot of last year.

And the rest of the group was like, okay, you know, it wasn't as deep as good a group as they have had in the past. They cycle through these one year guys, like EBCOM played well for them, but he's a free agent again. And it made me think, because I looked at the list of the top five highest paid defensive tackles, it made me think they should have just never made that DeForest Buckner trade.

Everyone loved at the time. They drafted Javon Kinloff to replace him. He hasn't really worked out. And on that list, it's Hargrave, Armstead, Aaron Donald, Duran Payne, and Buckner. And so, you know, two of those guys that are now played for the 49ers. You see what they value. One of them used to in Buckner, who's in Indiana. I love it for Steve Wilkes.

because you're going through a lot of, like, you're losing coaches in San Francisco on both sides of the ball year after year. Wilkes, though, we know can do it. And, like, he's sitting there as the big winner. If you're Sean Desai in Philadelphia, their new defensive coordinator, like, it needs to be understood inside the building.

There's a real uphill climb for him to come in and repeat the dynamic, like, quarterback nightmare situation they created a year ago with their front. Mm-hmm. Not all bad news for the Eagles. They get Kelsey returns. Yep. That's nice.

I kind of am surprised. I definitely thought he was going to retire. Just because the podcast is doing so well, but maybe it does even better if you're playing. Because Travis is still playing for a while. Siriani said he's just been plying Jason Kelsey with like kegs of beer and we'll continue to do so as long as he stays. I'm not even kidding.

Like McAfee retired and that thing was a rocket ship his podcast. And it just felt like this Kelsey Brothers pod is doing so well. That's like it's a good time to go away. I like the video of Howie Roseman and Jason Kelsey when like Kelsey tells him that he's not retiring, he's going to return and how he has like some moscato out and he's pouring

shots and I mean I mean and by the way how about this Kelsey here's the tweet I'm going to read the whole one I put much thought into whether it makes sense to play another season after talking it over with my wife and many other friends and family

I've decided to return for another year thank you to all my supporters and detractors for fueling me I ain't fucking done yet and guess what and guess what Aaron Rogers it could be that easy right here's the model it doesn't make doesn't make Jason Kelsey less swaggy or less mysterious or mystical make some swagger it makes it just makes life easier for everyone yeah and it's just like bro it's football like it's you're not that important you're not that special it's very unattractive I like someone who is decisive and to me

Aaron Rogers' situation. Even the fact that it's taken him this long to make a decision tells me that is his decision that he should retire, but he doesn't obviously want to. I need someone who like make a decision, rip off the band-aid, let's go, be confident in it. And if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. But like, let's stop dragging our feet and talking about it. Yeah, he tormented my weekend, as I told you. We're doing.

Let's talking. Yeah, make a decision last week and, you know, get us out of this mess. I'm with you. I learned a life lesson. struggling to make a decision you know it didn't have as much interest at the time of Aaron Rogers

but when I was coming to the NFL trying to decide if I was going to leave pro football talk I'd worked at NBC for like eight or nine years and I loved it there the only thing I regretted in the whole process was at the very end ultimately I just couldn't make a decision

and generally in life I feel like I'm pretty decisive and I knew afterwards right away almost that that was my regret and I would never do that again. But in that situation for the first time, I sort of made like a mistake. What was your big hesitation? Well, just

like I was very comfortable and liked a lot of things there and the money was basically the same and do you take this chance on doing this? It was just going back and forth, going back and forth. Couldn't decide what they did. I mean, I met you at the Combine before and it was sort of a recruitment dinner. Did I helped you feel maybe

that final brick in the wall that just said the NFL.com feels like the right place. Well, it really was It's a couple weeks. It's a weird move after that, where I would go back and forth. But then I thought, yeah, that's Justin Hathaway. He's a closer. I like this guy. Do love Hathaway.

Eagles got Brandon Graham back, too. Let's move on to the Broncos who are making moves. Let me go through it. Let me tell you all about it. So they got Mike McGlinchie. Nice. Big contract. Big, right tackle.

$50 million. guaranteed five years 87 and a half million 50 guaranteed so they make a big offensive line move they also add left guard Ben Powers formerly of the Ravens for years 52 million they also as we mentioned signed Jared Stidham to be Russ Wilson's backup and that's interesting to me and makes sense to me stidham is a guy who's flashed a little bit he was originally with the Patriots and then went to the Raiders and played a little bit at the end of the last season and kind of a I think that works, Mark, for the Broncos and Sean Peyton here because you can, first of all, building up the

offensive line very smart because I do think they are invested. I think they are serious about giving Russell Wilson a chance here to write the ship and it's not fair necessarily to Wilson and everybody else if you don't have a blocking front that works. So you do that and now you have a backup that you could put in where you're not spending a ton of money on your backup. You're not hedging your bets necessarily. And I would think they could very easily start over next year. year if either of these guys cannot play the guitar. Yeah, I kind of view everything that

Denver is doing as not Russell Wilson-centric, just because I think Sean Payton is secure enough to know that if that doesn't work out, you're just going to build the team around them and get that other quarterback. And I mean, they needed to fortify the offensive line. A glinchy, there's a lot

of zone blocking elements to Sean Payton's offense. I think they want to have more of a power run element. I think back to the days of Mark Ingram when he really started to shine under Sean Payton in New Orleans and Alvin Kamar after that. But like, you just want to be able to have that as a huge part of an offense that might not have a quarterback that can play right now. And I liked how it was put out there a little bit.

Like, with each of these pieces, you're removing excuses away from Russell Wilson. If he does not turn into the player he once was. It's like you have to build an argument to move on from him if that's the case a year from now. Sean Payton's always coached good offensive lines, like known how to coach them up and and hired the right offensive line coaches. But generally, like, spending this much money on slightly above average starting offensive linemen are, like, the worst thing you can do in free agency.

He was also the top right tackle, though, on the market. Like, and they needed it. Absolutely. But, like, the 49ers didn't show a lot of interest in keeping them. Ben Powers kind of had a career year for the Ravens, a guard. I think he'll make, like, 25, 26 million in his first two years. It's like they're spending a lot of money trying to get to average in the offensive line. But you're in a specific issue if you're Denver,

because you've given away a bunch of draft picks. You're not going to get necessarily an all-pro tackle in free agency because they don't typically exist. And then you don't have the way to go get them through the draft. So you kind of were backed up into a corner here. And McGlensy is up and down, but it's like I think he fits. Yeah. And they aren't going to be afraid of spending.

I still get like Sean Payton a little bit like Bill Parcells and Miami vibes. Just I think there's like a chance here. You know what I mean? Like it's kind of at the end. Let's just like go a little crazy and maybe it's not going to be as good as it was in New Orleans. But we'll see. In other news. Hey, the Chargers.

What's going on with the Chargers? Feel good about the Chargers? No, I am not. The vibes around the Chargers. I share your suspicions. Brandon Staley, still there as the head coach. They replaced both coordinators. they blew a 27-0-0 lead in the playoffs.

And now Austin Echler is requesting permission to seek a trade after he was met with a cold shoulder after contract extension talks with the Chargers. With the Chargers. So it's like, and we had him on the show at the Super Bowl. To his credit, he didn't hint at any type of discord or concerns. Well, maybe to his credit, had he, we would have broken news on the show. Right.

It's all kind of powerful to maybe not be turning over a couple of stuff. zones there when he had back to back 20 touchdown seasons and he's probably paid in the back half of starters. I asked him like three beach body questions in a row. It's like what is the purpose of this show? I like it. Let's use this as a teaching moment for the podcast. But anyway, yeah, so he's requesting permission for a trade. So we'll see if that happens. And I thought it was also instructive, Gregie, on this. Daniel Jeremiah, like I said, moved the sticks, was on an NFL network all morning and he kind of said in a way like and you know the chargers are not going to top the market or not going to meet his demands for his position he calls the games of course as

the analyst so it's kind of like if the charges are serious about not paying him and he's requesting a trade this feels like something that could happen and perhaps soon yeah he wanted a raise I think he had uh one year left on his deal making six million like get it now while you can. You're still healthy. Your numbers are good. Especially at that position. I get it.

But I also get the chargers being like, actually, we're getting the best Austin Echler right now. We don't want to pay for the next Austin Echler. We like this contract. And if you can go, you know, get a deal. We'll let you go. We like you enough. We think we have other priorities.

Good draft for running backs too. Yeah. This is Austin Echler just trying to ensure his future. I mean, if he gets hurt this season in his final year of this four-year contract that he's on, then he's kind of screwed. So he needs to, if the chargers are not willing to give him a long-term deal, which they aren't, which is prudent on their part, he should be able to explore other options if they're out there.

It really stinks getting, was he undrafted? Like, you really get banged over and over just by being undrafted. Especially at that position. His career has been better than Saquan Barclays. Not like he would have gotten Saquan Barclay's contract necessarily. But because he was undrafted, he had to take a deal that was really good for him at the time, three years into his undrafted rookie deal, but now looks very below the market. And you're always like trying to catch up to the money that you didn't make in the first place.

And so you don't blame him. But I think he'll be elsewhere. I think they were going to have a lot of trades. Laramie Tunsell is another player that requested permission to seek a trade, left tackle of the Texans, one of the very best in the league. and the Texans, despite speculation last year, held on to him. He delivered another high-quality season mark. And if he goes on the market, he could fetch quite a pretty penny given the premium position.

It's kind of the opposite of running backs, a left tackle, immense value, both in trade value and in salary. He's been linked here and there to the Chiefs who have moved on from Orlando Brown. But they went and got Joanne Taylor, who has been a right tackle career-wise with Jacksonville. but they're going to move him over to left tackle, according to James Palmer, our friend. So that's a lot of money if you then go try to sort all this out. But I think they lost Andrew Wiley, the Chiefs, the right tackle. So they still have to find someone to protect Patrick Mahomes. So Taylor, you know, you could put him on the right side if you got Larry Tunsell.

He got huge money from the Chiefs, but not as huge as what Orlando Brown was going to make. They would be scary as hell with Laramie Tunsell. as their left tackle. But do you think they paid him as a left, Joanne Taylor as a left tackle, though? That's what I see that contract as. But it doesn't seem like it's totally shut down. I tend to think that getting floated out there

might be like, well, we don't necessarily need you, Laramie Tunsell, but it hasn't gotten shot and down that this could happen. I did go to Tunsell's Twitter page. Is I like checking it out? That's always an interesting place. Yeah, what's going on there. The likes and whatnot. Oh, Aaron Rogers had a funny like today of like

Zool Douglas saying he had Rogers' phone. And so the last tweet from Laramie Tunsell is LMAO man, and that was yesterday, that, you know, for the kids, laughing my ass off. Nice, dude. So I just feel like, okay, something happened. That's, I feel like that's been in the lexicon for Wildgren. Thank you.

Thank you. For the kids. For the children out there. For the 43-year-olds. That, uh, that was a joke. Uh, human. That feels like, okay, I don't know why I'm reading that. It's like, I'm not going to be a Texan anymore.

They won't pay me what I want to make. And then immediately retweets Patrick Mahomes saying NFL is going to be wild this next week. And that's back to back. And it does these guys are all talking to each other. Come on. Cycling back to Echler, by the way, he has 38 touchdowns in the past two seasons. He's coming off a career high in targets. He has made $21 million total in his career.

That's what I'm talking about. And that is not to say that $21 million is anything. to sneeze at. I would love $21 million. I'd love a million. But $21 million for a guy's had 38 touchdowns in the last two years. You see where it gets a little janky. Like when we talked about some of these other players getting the money they're getting, Echler is a machine. What about him with the Buffalo Bills? They're... That's a spicy meatball mark.

I mean, John Taylor plays a premium position. I get that. John Taylor hadn't been lighting it up for most of his career. And offensive linemen do develop late, but he gets $60 million and Gary. guaranteed money and heckler is saying, just, can I have a little bit of a raise? Oh, that's a spicy meatball. The Falcons are doing some work. They signed Jesse Bates, safety. They sign David Onion Mata, 24 and a half over two.

They're not done yet. They give Chris Lynch from their Star Guard $105 million to stay put. Connie, that is a lot of lifting on the first day of, free agency for a team that is looking to make a move. They're just out here flexing their muscles giving out the bag. Jesse Bates, I like this one because

I mean, we knew that he was going to be gone from. I wish you just would have stopped after that set up. And that was the analysis. So for the kids, when she says bag, it's talking about money. Money. I think the kids know this.

It's the... For the geriatrics? Yeah, I mean, it's the people. I'm one of those. I know. I think I'm one of those. Sometimes I don't know. what the when someone one of you is talking and when it's a drop um it feels like those lines are blur but jesse bates last year i remember i was in sorry to interrupt you again you're for you're

firmly a millennial by the way okay thank you i'll take it you're like i'm geriatric my soul is gregger gen x honestly i'm on the border line i don't know i mean it's almost like this generational stuff is nonsense a little bit maybe yeah um Go ahead. Should we talk about Jesse? I don't subscribe to any of that, by the way. But yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

When I was at the Bengals training camp this summer, Jesse Bates still was kind of like, we didn't know what he was going to do. Sort of like hadn't signed the tag yet, hadn't reported to camp. So we knew that, you know, he was out of there. And he's going to really help out this Falcons pass defense. They allowed the eighth most passing yards last season. They desperately needed some help in that department.

and Bates, second team all pro in 2020, 14 interceptions. I mean, he's a really good player, and I think that he'll add a lot of value to this team. Lindstrom, getting 105 is wild. Yeah, that's so much. He's another example of offensive linemen, and he's always been good, but he went to another level.

He was second team all pro this year. They do develop slower than other positions. That I truly buy. I think other, some positions are up and down, like cornerback, maybe off ball linebacker, stuff like that. Running backs, you'd rather. have early. Offensive linemen you'd rather have in the middle to late. They

get better and better and he got better. And that Bates contract was awesome for him. You like seeing a guy who bet on himself with the one year deals, never took the long term contract from the Bengals. Be rewarded. Usually it's phony where it's like, oh, the four year 64, I was like, oh, that's too much for him. It's actually

almost phony the other way. He gets 36 million in the first two years of the deal. It's front-loaded. He should get all that money. Like he is going to get paid. It is, you know, Dean Pease has gone, retired. So Ryan Nielsen is a stepping into that role for the first time in Atlanta. I don't think I've trusted Atlanta's defense in like half a decade plus at this point. And if you're the Bengals, you also lost Von Bell to the Panthers. So you have a, you have an issue at safety. Oniomata got way too much money. $24 million over two is

wild for a guy who's 31 who looks incredible for three or four straight games and then kind of disappears. It's had a very, like an up and down career. But like you mentioned, they have a new defensive coordinator who was in New Orleans. Their GM used to be in New Orleans. And you always like, go get the guys you used to love. Right. They targeted aggressively to make a move like this quickly. And they believe he's a perfect scheme fit for what they do.

And you've got to spend that cap space. I do. I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth on some level because it's a waste to just be rolling over all that cap space. We're going to take one more break. And then we are going to hit the rest of the news. All right. We're back. during the break

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Can you tell the Disney story real quick? Yes. Yeah, go ahead. I have another upcoming Pepsi post for you guys. And I was like trying to. All you guys. All my fans out there. For generation next and the rest of them.

For generation next. So I went to Disney for the first time ever a couple days ago. And I was like, oh, that could be. Perfect. There's so many things going on at Disney. I could figure out some way to, like, integrate a Pepsi. I can market myself beautifully there. So I am going in through security at Disneyland, and I get through security with the Pepsi. I didn't even think it would be a problem because whatever.

Well, you're a pitch woman, so of course it shouldn't be a problem. Exactly. And I'm gathering all of my things, and it's very chaotic and hectic because our friend that took us to Disney really loves Disney. She's a Disney person, and we needed to be there for rope, which I didn't even know was a thing. I love that that's a term. That's a thing. So we are rushing to get through.

And I don't like to be rushed. And so I'm already like kind of like in a space that is not great for me. And I gather all of my things as I'm walking away from security and I hear something crash onto the ground and it's the Pepsi can and it explodes everywhere. It's like dollar signs coming out of the cans with the rest of the carbonation. It starts spring. the security guard. Oh, Colleen.

Yeah, so then I had Pepsi all over me the rest of the day, and we were there for like 14 hours. That's a great symbolism. Your post captured all, will it capture all this? No, because we were going to miss the tram. And then you would have missed rope drop. Yeah. Can't do that.

You know what? They got their money's worth. They got this story. Honestly, yeah. On this huge platform. I didn't realize that was a crutch for me, which I'm just realizing my honesty crush. Justin, we've got some developing news.

I'm not going to go back. I'm not going to go breaking. I'm not going to developing. It's my favorite. Linebacker David Long, ranked in the top 25 of my top 101 free agents, is signing with the Miami Dolphins, two years, $11 million. Love that deal compared to the Tremade Edmonds deal. That's cheap.

That's all I was saying. I know he doesn't have the 40 time, maybe not quite as much training, but that's a football player. He has great instincts. This is a great value. Do you guys hear something? No, I haven't heard anything. I played it like 35. You're like I'm having a multiple times in an episode.

All right. It's always your entryway. David Long is a great linebacker, and he's like, he's a little limited in coverage, but he's pretty dang good, and the Dolphins got a great deal here. I mean, looking at the other linebacker signings, like what the Bears did today,

that's a pretty nice deal. I know I made a joke about it before, but AFCS really is looking pretty good. Okay, I get it. Great combo coming up, maybe. Cut to like Titans' headquarters and like it just ran Carth and like taking a massive nap in like an office somewhere. The Titans signed. Titans are not taking the Rams path.

Like there are no pillars. They signed somebody. I don't know if we'll get to it on this episode. It's pretty decent signing. It's like a circus tent when they have, they're beginning to take it down. They take out the big pole in the middle. It's just like a big, flat, like giant big top on the, on the tur on like the hard dirt ground. Depressing.

Meanwhile, that's the Titans right now. No, I support that, though. I think the Titans should try to win zero games in 2023 and draft Caleb Williams. It's like, yeah, it's like, there are no weight bearing walls. It's like a FEMA trailer that they gave out. It's like that never worked. Way to go, Brownie, remember that? It's just like Ryan Zanahill and Derek Hand are like gasping for air under this gigantic big top.

Like, let us out, let us escape. Meanwhile, he's trying to do some coping mechanism here being like, I don't know if you're going to get, but I did like this, deal that they signed later in the day. Yes, they got the former first round Philadelphia Eagles tackle, Andre Dillard, literally the only player who's ever played on the offensive line for the Eagles that didn't work out and end up being one of like the best line. Well, did he not work out or did he just hurt?

Sounds great. He drank your face. Jordan Maillada is really good. Sounds like a trank. When he played, he was like, fine, you know, okay. He was a, I looked up his PFF grades and that's not the NLB all, but. I'm just saying like they've had a lot of people go through. and they all end up doing great

except for this one guy, that's the guy you got. Nine and a half million a year. It's like not a huge deal for what's going to be their starting left tackle, right? How was your Oscars party? Let's talk about something less depressing. It was super fun. Good.

Yeah, we had a great place. Not exactly, no. Oh, I thought it was, oh. Yeah, I didn't want to, like, correct it because it was a spy. No, you went to an Oscars party. Yeah, you, you, um, I thought you were hosting an Oscars. Right, you prioritized someone else's hospital's party. Yeah, that's a little different.

I didn't prioritize. I know, if Aaron Rogers happened. We would have done a pot. It would have been fun. Where is your commitment to the show? It would have happened. What did you bring to the party? Like, like, Jessica.

Well, Jessica was there. We brought a bottle of wine, two folding chairs, and a lot of themed foods. So we made... Folding chairs. Well, we needed extra chairs for this. LA apartment, but doesn't have a billion chairs. I get it. And all the foods were named after puns.

So we brought the everything everywhere all at buns, which were cinnamon rolls. They were great. I'm so upset that Dan ask you what you brought. I adore it. I love that. No, I love it. Never changed. Which one of you came up with the pun?

Or did you just seamlessly come up with it together? No, they said it like, what should we say? And then they said it at the same time. And then they just like passionately kissed in the kitchen. As like a heart went around them as like a, what do they call those things? The wipe. A heart light to the next love scene. Yeah, yeah.

The next love scene of their great life. together that is exactly how it went down it's like do on three cinnabuns what's it called what was it called everything everywhere all at buns okay okay can you remember that yeah what should we call it everything everywhere all at buns oh big heart big swoop fade out to the next perfect scene of you guys in your life together yeah folding chairs what do we need on three folding chairs. No. All right, let's move on. Wait, that is weird, though, because no one has furniture, so they needed someone to bring folding chairs,

but people that don't have furniture, why do you have folding? I was wondering about that. Did you bring bread and water, too? Any other, like, survival? Blankets. No. Batteries. Did you consider everything everywhere all at prunes? That's what.

That's what Greg came up with, with his significant other. That's why you weren't invited. What was another good pun? Is this where we tell Greg we were all at the party? Yeah. There was meat balls quiet on the. Western Front. That was a pretty good one.

You guys should have been at the ceremony. Band cheese of Inashiren was a cheese board. That's a good one. I like that one. Yeah, I can't remember. Okay. How about tar and it's literally just like a wet bowl? Oh, there was something to see what happens.

There was a tar pun, but I don't remember what it was. Tortilla chips with tar. That's pretty good. Someone's dead on the floor. It's like, oh, he actually, that was a prop. All right, let's get into it. Where are we? finish things up.

Cale Blanchette. Where were we? Cale Blanchette. A healthy dish. I like that. All right. Sorry. We're back to what we're doing.

Former Steeler Cam Sutton heads to the lions. He gets 22.5 million guaranteed. Steelers then turn around and sign Pat Peterson, the veteran cover man. You think Pittsburgh comes out okay there? Is Peterson have anything left in the tank? Where are we out there? I think Peterson feels like one of these Steelers signings that I just trust will work out. But they really needed cornerback help.

after losing Sutton. He's not a young man. No. It's a young man's position. He played pretty well last year. These are the type of guys that weirdly get undervalued in free agency. It's like, oh, just let's pay Pat Pete, $7 million. He'll be a fine starting quarterback.

You don't have to go crazy. But I think they were disappointed. It sounded like they were trying to keep Cam Sutton, who they developed into a nice player. He got 22.5 million guaranteed from the Lions who definitely needed another cornerback. I think that makes them a little less likely to take a cornerback at six. A lot of people had that mocked as them taking the top cornerback

off the board, maybe Witherspoon, maybe now it's like a little more Anthony Richardson possibly if you ever slipped there. But either way, like they needed a cornerback. I like that. I think the Steelers could still take a cornerback though. Sure. Ian's tweet when it happened was Patrick Peterson. A surprise.

A perennial star headed to a historic franchise to beef up their back end. Have you noticed this thing? It's starting to gain more momentum with the insiders Ian and Mike and the Pell Razor, the guys on live television with the phones. No, it's a lot of that. And we're now, we're treating these men of the media,

these insiders, as if they're carrying bayonets during the Revolutionary War. And they're just these, like, fearless heroes that will do anything to defend their country and get the story. They're fighting each other, too. They're fighting each other. In fact, I like this.

I had, Justin, cut this. It's real. I mean, the battle is real, and the battle is sometimes within your own platoon. You're right. Listen to Mike G. getting a phone call when they just threw it to him to deliver something. From Denver to the Seahawks. And if you remember, James Palmer did a tremendous, I'm on the air. I'll call you right back.

Don't give it to anybody else. Bye. Wait for it. Shelby Harris was part of that trade. He did a phenomenal interview with our James. I know when he met, what he meant was, don't give it to Ian. And then Ian got a phone call. And what happened, Justin?

He ripped off his headset and he was out of there. Yeah, he was in Tom Pelliserro, like, faked. Like, he was getting a phone call just to mess with Mike. And then Ian got a real phone call and had to bolt off the set. I was watching this live. And I can confirm to you, having worked with Mike Garifolo closely for so many years. If you don't know, Mike and just her. heard that sound drop, like, you'd be like,

I feel like he was just putting on for, like, the camera because it's free agency. That's literally almost every single production meeting I've had with Garifolo, that has happened. Well, he's also a man of high integrity, so I don't think he would fake things. Yeah, and I also like that the person he was speaking to totally disregarded what Mike said, as he should have.

Be like, I don't have time for you. I'm not waiting. I'm calling rap sheet. What's the difference if one of you beats it by 15 seconds of the other? There was also about a 15-minute period where Jane Slater's dog in the background sounded as if it had taken six tabs of LSD. I was listening to that too. They're going to have to put that one in the garage going forward.

She has two dogs, yeah. It was one of the two. Well, whoever the culprit was. Birdie and Pepper. I thought it was in our news from for a minute that a dog had escaped into a workplace. It did sound like Birdie. Yeah, I think the first thing and knowing Ian, the first thing Ian's saying when he picks up the phone is, why did you call him first? Oh, of course.

Like, all right, now what is it? Interesting world. I think they're just getting called because the agents are seeing them on TV and they want to create some chaos. What a sandbox. What a sandbox to live in and play in. And we've given, you know,

Pell Razor a great nickname and he seems to not have any concept this has occurred in his life. Have you told him yet? I don't really have a chance. I don't speak with him ever. I'm going to see it. We weren't.

I should have told him yesterday. I worked with him yesterday. I think it's something we should personally talk to him about. Unless you want to be our ambassador on it, Do you want to... That would be weird. Potentially, but I don't think I have another show with him for a while, so it's on you guys. It's a great nickname.

Maybe they'll send us to the draft. I don't know if that happens. Simply to provide the message? Well, then we can... That would give us the opening to have the conversation in the hotel lobby. Hey, Fly got you a bit of an elite nickname. It is a great nickname. And maybe get rich off.

It's a masculine nickname. I think it's one that suggests that he's great at what he does. Aggression. Yeah. Like, that there's, he's got a better nickname than, is it better nickname than Rapsheet? Right. And also makes people think of the cinematic classic Hellraiser starring Pinhead. And Hellraiser 2, 3, and I think 4.

It does make them think of all five of those. But like the whole, the content of like, hey, I'll call you back, don't give it to anyone else. Like, Hellraiser is like, you don't give it to somebody else. You give it to Pelraiser. Right. Or else. And for the kids out there who weren't familiar with the movie. His name was pinhead because he literally had pins in his head.

I'd like that you're just describing everything for the kids. There's a lot of explanations from Greg on today's episode. I like it. It's informational. That's what today's episode is about. Duran Payne. A, guy's a player. Commanders have them in their building.

They don't let him get out. The defensive lineman gets a four-year $90 million contract reportedly via rap sheet. $60 million in guarantees. He had gotten the franchise tag, so they wasn't going anywhere. Good news for my guy, Quinn and Williams. If Duran Payne's getting that, that's at least what Quinn and Williams gets. Sorry, Jeffrey Simmons, if the Titans decide to field the defense this season, like he, that's a framework there for that contract.

That's a lot of money. They got to drag that. It is. It is really good to time your very best season of your career in your contract year, which was what Duran Payne managed to do. Good weekend for Quinn and Williams, too, because his brother got paid. Yes. by the Jets.

I like that move. But let's make sure we get the better Williams brother. Speaking of Jets he really like. Speaking of Jetsies, I really like, nice. Sam Darnold. Sam Donald. Yeah, he is not on the Greg Rosenthal top 101, but he is now the property of Kyle Shannon,

who knows an unpolished gem when he sees one. With Brock Purdy recovering from elbow surgery, with Trey Lance, a big old question mark. The Niners signed Sam Darnel or agree with Sam Darnold on a one-year contract, giving them a little bit more stability in that QB room and potentially, and here, this is my sincere hope because this is somebody who thought that Donald was wronged

earlier in his career, and I thought he got some sense of self-respect in the league back during his Carolina tenure. It would be full circle for him to now be on a loaded offense with a gifted play caller just to see what would happen. I hope he gets meaningful snaps and that would be fun. Maybe he becomes, oh, imagine how rich would it be, Gregi.

If Sam Darnold was the Gino Smith of 2020. And we have one every year in this year's version. It's very impossible. All it takes is an opportunity and a little bit of high-level play. I mean, the Darnold heads out there. Are there? You, DJ. The people who said Darnold was like one of the great prospects ever,

including DJ, and there were plenty of them out. I think I've believed in him throughout if you could just get into the right situation. And last year I was like, look how it's going. And then he had like the worst game any quarterback had all season in Week 18 and it kind of wipe the back in my mind. I'm just saying. I mean, how many times you've got to bring that up? Too many.

Wow. They didn't say the money on this deal, but it is a, I mean, if you could ever get on the field for them, it would be an incredible opportunity. When they don't say the money, it means it's not much money. But that's not a surprise. He's going to be the third quarterback, I think, if everyone, one's healthy, but if Purdy's not ready, and then Lance is giving you some, you know, it's a contract that probably has some incentives, but he can be the third quarterback if he

doesn't end up playing. Listen, he's not going to be, obviously, he wasn't going to be in the Panthers plans. He wants to play, but I would think he would might, he might be open to waiting things out a little bit unless the Niners were like, hey, the way things are set up right now, you're going to have an opportunity, and you're not going to be third string in week one. I think this might tell you more about Purdy's timetable. That or like there is this world where if you're going to ride into the season and even might before Darnold with Purdy and Trey Lance

like, are you really keeping both of these guys? I mean, there's a reason you would maybe, but you could potentially trade someone like Trey Lance. Trey Lance gets traded now. I'm just saying nothing is wild anymore. Nothing's wild. Are you going to have them sitting on your roster? Not because of Sam Darnal, but Sam Darnal,

but Sam Darnal gives you the quarterback. No, but with Purdy is the future there that they bought in on him. Darnold is the backup they're comfortable with I think they're just scared because Josh Johnson entered an NFC championship game for them and I get that. It's a great landing spot for Donald

and it goes back to California. It's like I kind of like it for him a lot. If you got to get a couple spots starts early, you get a different version of him in an offense that's competent. I'm happy for Sam. All right. And Buck's News, they resign Jamel Dean,

the cornerback four years, 52,000, 26 guaranteed via wrap sheet. They also have an eye out. Baker Mayfield, speaking of class of 2018 quarterbacks. Mayfield was potentially on the radar of the Niners. Obviously, they went in a different direction

with Darnold. Number 101 on the top 101. There's been some talk that they could eye him as potentially a guy who could start for them week one if he could beat out Kyle Trask in a camp battle. It doesn't sound promising.

Like, this is, I understand that this is the situation that the bucks are in right now, now that Tom Brady has retired. But bringing in Baker Mayfield to compete with Kyle Trask is not something that is really selling me on the team. Right. I am curious what else they'll do. Maybe they'll draft a quarterback. They are this team that's just floating out there. Their new coordinator was the Seahawks quarterback's coach last year, Dave Conallis.

But they still have players there. I mean, I don't think Godwin's going anywhere. They have a good offensive line. They have players. I'd rather be in Sam Darnold's shoes, though, and just have a chance to play in San Francisco than just trot out Baker Mayfield as the start. I wonder if like if Baker's destiny is becoming more Fitzpatrickian

where he ends up hanging around longer than anyone expected and he pops once or twice almost every year when he gets opportunities. And sometimes that ends in like a starting job that may last or may not last. I wonder if that's kind of Baker's arc and would he sign off on that? I'm sure he might if the man he gets to play 15 years. Does he have as much upside as? Well, I think so.

Ryan Fitzpatrick. I know Ryan Fitzpatrick had a lot of downs. Ryan Fitzpatrick went through a lot of valleys. I mean, I think we got the full, like, version where he just was so comfortable in his own skin and having so much fun at the end of his career. Like Baker's... I could see Baker that way too, though.

I could too, because I think Baker's had sort of a shadow of him for a while. And I'm not pitching him as a starter, but like there's a little bit of interest reportedly in Jacoby Brissette in Tampa but I think like I'm glad they're not a week ago it was like Kyle Trask or nothing it's like don't even try that on us right now so like Baker I think is someone

you could bring in as like a patch and he's not going to cost you a ton of money I think I don't know if he has the people skills that Fitzpatrick has I think to have that type of career you need to be that dude that can fit in any situation and that everyone loves in any situation whether he's the backup whether he's the starter

I mean he threw for 35,000 There's not a lot of yards in his grid. There's not a lot of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Aren't there still a bunch of front offices that have their scouting report on Baker-Mayfield? And when you're a first overall pick, you're going to get just many more chances than if you were third or fourth round two.

Robert Woods signed with the Texans, formerly of the Titans, for more money than I personally expected. What was the money on that? Twelve and a half or two. I don't know. It seemed rich considering he gave the Tennessee nothing coming off an ACL injury and he's north of 30, right? Gravedigger?

Were you a little surprised to see? I was. Yeah. And so, I mean, before Free Agency even started, is like the Texans prioritized getting Robert was. That's what I mean. The timing was interesting, too. He finished with the fewest yards of his career.

I think the idea is you may be better the one more year away from that surgery. Maybe he was getting a little better at the end of the season. To get that money suggests that there was some sort of bidding, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Rams were the team that were trying to bring him back. But it wouldn't extend out that way. Brandon Cook's being, like, shopped around. It is interesting that Robert Woods and Cooks are back on the same team again like they were in L.A. Hamana.

All right. Titans beat writer Paul Kuharski tweeted, he will be a quarterback's best friend if your quarterback loves slow receivers. Wow. Kharski drops a bomb. He was on this show, right? He was. Was he angry about the Titans nickname?

Yeah, he was really annoyed with a lot of stuff. He was salty about that nickname. You and him went at it. We really, we really went toe to toe. Hanzas v. Kuharski. The Patriots resign. Banshees of the Shiren a little bit. The Vinges of that.

The Patriots re-signed cornerback. Jonathan Jones, the Falcons, acquired John Hussmith from the Patriots. It turns out the John Smith Hunter Henry like spending spree was weird when it happened. And Johnny Smith did nothing with the pads. So they got a seventh round pick. And then you start to ask, well,

Falcons just got Johnny's just got Johnny Smith. Arthur Smith, a reunion there. What about Kyle Pitts? Is he still like, is he somebody that's floating out there? I don't know. I mean, he had one touchdown for the Patriots. Not that touchdowns or everything, but that was one of them. How many

touchdowns is Kyle Pitts having two years of the Falcons? Three? You know what? It's tough as tight ends coming into the league. That position when you were when you were first is this person talking? Is this Elizabeth Banks said at the Oscars? Like right before she tests positive for COVID.

And it's like, Jono Smith, I don't understand what happened. I don't understand what happened at Johnny Smith. I used to love him with the Titans. So he'll be a perfect second titan, not asked to do too much behind. What's that new show on Peacock? He was so bad for the Patriots, so bad.

I'm still trying to figure out what Colleen was doing there a few minutes ago. Who's the actress in the show where she plays like an amateur detective? It's very hot right now on Peacock, Gravedigger. Man, that's tough. You know what? That's tough for Grave digger. It's also tough for Dan. Natasha Leone.

Yes, Natasha Leone. What's the name of the show? I mean, you guys don't know this? Mokkerface. I was with you. Excellent show. Everyone should watch it. Like you, I didn't have Natasha's name on the top of it.

For some reason, poker face, I can't like lock in that name. That was very Leone-esque. I love Lothozy. I was like, what is going on? Who is talking to me? I didn't hate it. You know the tight-end position. I didn't hate it.

It was just a little jar. All right, odds and ends, hit it. Connie. Okay. The singing part, like the part. Do I get music? Yeah. Odds and ends.

Odds and ends. Hey, everybody, tell your friends, it's odds and ends. Whoa. That's amazing. Did you just, did you double track her vocal? She was harmonizing with herself because the last time she did it, she nailed it so perfectly that I clipped it. I thought it was just like some type of weird echo. You know you need to do next time.

You got to sing in a different key. next time so you can harmonize it himself. All right, Graver, send me that. Send me that so I can practice a different keys. Actually, Graver, next time, play the one of her harmonizing with herself until we can have three, Colleen. It'll be a choir soon. We're just going to keep building Colleen's.

Like, I'm not even joking. Everyone, and we're going to get it until it's basically a full choir. That's a noble quest. I like that. I love this. All right, hit it. 8 o'clock to light. The Texans signed Case Keenum, formerly of the bills.

So he is going to be a backup there when they get their new quarterback. The bucks will trade or cut. Shaq Mason. Keep an eye on his market. The Brown signed Ogbo Okronk. Okaranko. Okaranko. 12 and a half million guaranteed.

There you go, Marquis. The Bengals bring back Germain Pratt on a two-year deal. Connor McGovern leaves the Jets for the Bills. That's their line. Matt Milano gets a new deal from the Bills. Sterling Shepard back to the Giants in a one-year deal. We'll see if that ever becomes anything. O'Dell working.

out for a bunch of teams. He's reportedly looking for $20 million. Good luck. The Jets, as we said, re-signed Quincy Williams, and the Lions bring back Isaiah Bugs. I'll tell you one little thing. I was talking to Greg that, like, if you go back to the early days of our show

when Case Keenham was a Texan and had a couple spicy spot starts here and there, and that was a Chris Wesleyan favorite for just how aggressive he was, you know, didn't think he was a perfect quarterback, but he would talk about letting your Case Keenum flag fly. And now he's back in Houston and made me think of Chris. They called Freak flag fly? Your Keenom's like your Keenom's Freak flag. That was a freak flag.

Case Keatom kind of reminds me. Always like that little accent on it. Of Chase Daniel a little bit, just in terms of like backups. And Chase Daniel was in the green room here at work yesterday after we finished the show. And I walked in and I was like, oh, who's this new producer in my head? And I introduced myself. and I didn't catch his name. And so there's a bunch of people in the green room.

I mean, Scott Pioly, Steve Weech, Maurice Jones, Drew. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, what did you say your name is again? And he was like, Chase Daniel. I just have never seen you with your helmet off. It's cool. Then just like run to your car and drive him. Did I have the wrong Connor McGovern? Yeah, not the Jets Connor McGovern.

The Cowboys, Connor McGregor. Got it. It's confusing. They're both in the AFC East now. Half of the Connor McGoverns that were available are still available.

Half of them are now signed. That's good clarity, good clarity. It is one of the great things about Twitter. On some level, Twitter has changed our minds, maybe in a negative way. But on the other hand, you can bring up this Case Keenum flag fly,

put it in with an at Chris Wesleying, and you can find about 70 different tweets of people tweeting at Wes about it or Wes tweeting about it and it going on and on for years and years all of us responding in different things

and so I love that good was that little laugh from you I was just thinking about Chris it was freak flag it made me giggle maybe giggle

made me giggle like a school girl thinking about how much you loved Kay Skeen well that's sweet we won't make fun of you then covered thank you Wes

safe wherever you are I always think about that whenever whenever Case Keenum gets into a game and he just gets back there and then there's that one moment where he's about to get

crushed and he thinks like hmm should I throw it out of bounds should I take the sack no let's just throw it as hard as I can as far as I can and see what happens like that's letting your case key and him flag fly it is and now the opposite side of Twitter which is now owned by an oligarch

you must remove text message two factor authentication by March 19th or your account is shut down oh I got that too I don't know about that I don't like that What am I going to do? I guess I'm going to shut my account down.

Shut it down. Then do you lose like everything? You're like, what? The whole thing. All we were told is you need the two-factor authentication. Trying to get you to pay for that. Yeah.

So I got to send this upstairs. Well, or what is our company doing about it? I would say, like, why am I getting that? I asked this question to someone who is high up in that department and they said they'll get back to me. Well, March 19th, the six days from now. So it looks like all of our Twitter accounts are going to be wiped out. A race from the Internet in six days. All right.

That's it. Is that it? We did 90 minutes and no Aaron Rogers news. No, but the Giants signed a linebacker. Do we care? I think it's a, you put it in our messaging client. And yes, I think it's important. Let's see.

Breaking news? Not developing? Go for it, Graver. This is your time to shine. The Giants, according to Ian Rappaport. have signed former Colts linebacker, Bobby O'Caricay, giving them a new face in the middle of their defense. Good player.

Four years, 40 million with 22 million guaranteed. Again, I want to see the details. Sometimes it's funny money. Might be a one-year deal, but wow, that's a lot of money. Greg, he plays defense. Yuck. That's not what I mean, but a lot of these off-ball linebackers are getting a lot of money on day one

because there's not many other positions out there. Thank you, Justin. position for a long time. They've been a disaster there. Giants need to get better. They're really going to make that leap. So we'll see. He played really well last year.

I can do something there. Anything else before we end today's program. And just as you, I imagine, could imagine, we're going to be all over your podcast outlets of choice this week. We'll have a show Monday through Thursday. And if we need to drop a Friday pod, we're going to do it. No more Oscar parties to worry about. What about if we need to drop a like Monday late night

because Rogers just wants to give a big middle finger to the media establishment. What do you think? I'm here. I'm ready. Let's do it. To be determined. TBD.

What about you, Connie? You've said it all. Yeah, that's it. Is there more to say, perhaps? No, not if I said it all. That's it. It's good self-control. It's time to get out of here.

All right. Let's do it. Shall we? The Edibles just hit, so. Gotta go! Mark's like, I've been waiting all weekend. Now it's finally my time. No, apparently not,

because we're going to do an Aaron Rodgson show in four hours or something. Be the call. You know, I'm going to be able to see. You know, This is an IHeart podcast.