NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Free Agency News + Sensible Transactions for Those with a Refined Palate

Episode Date: March 17, 2023

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal recap the latest free agency news from around the league, starting with Orlando Brown Jr. signing with the Bengals (5:58). Darius Slay is staying with the Eagles (11:55), the Giants signed a couple receivers (14:11), and both the Vikings (22:09) and Bears (25:36) made some moves. We hit Odds and Ends (27:40) before reacting to a sampling of introductory press conference clips (31:23), and finally, we close the show pitching a number of sensible transactions for those with a refined palate in such matters (38:12).  Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Orlando Brown Jr. is expected to sign with the Cincinnati Bengals. Darius Slay. Going back to Philadelphia. New England has agreed to terms with tight end Mike Gisicki. Mario to finally an eagle. Harrison Smith staying in the Minnesota Vikings defense. Jonah Williams has requested a trade.

What is it about Coach McDaniel that's intriguing to you? Uh, be it a little weird? top of the morning to you it's morning somewhere it's around the NFL from the chris whistling podcast studio i'm don hanses joined by the lads Craig rosenthal and i mark sessler and it's me hope that we are a great way from the hills of the cemetery but if the lord does decide that it is our time it's good to have a grave digger point of us Amazing. Happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody.

How have you celebrated? You know, what are you doing? I will be. I will be. My mother's side of the family is Irish. And we will be having some Guinness after this, throwing some cornhole, which is not an Irish activity, but we're going to have some fun in the front yard with some neighbors and enjoy it.

How about you guys? I mean, I left my abode. notice that there was already a string of venues overflowing at like 6 a.m. with, you know, a variety of individuals drinking their green beer. And I thought, well, I'm going to go do the work part of this day. And then I might go see how that figures out later. Why not? It's definitely the holiday. I think I feel the difference of living in New York, which did for 10 years and here the most. But my parents are coming to town tonight. So, you know, that we'll really tie one off. It's wild when they get here to get. I love that. You can have a pint of Guinness, a tall one.

I mean they're getting rather late if you're fighting that LAX traffic Man we I would love to do a live show in Ireland And that is a goal A personal goal of mine that we can get there We have a great fan base over on the Emerald Isle I think I've shared some memories on the show Of my trip to Ireland as a teenager

When I went to the Waterford Crystal factory And they told everybody Oh this is the Super Bowl trophy And I was like no it's not because it was really actually the NCAA championship trophy, but it was cute. They didn't know any better. Yeah.

And then I think about this bus that we rode up and down the countryside from north to south. And it was piloted by this very ruggedly handsome older gentleman named Tommy O'Reilly. And we all kind of fell in love with him because he had that charm that you're looking for from your Irish tour bus. And I'll never forget what he said at the end of the trip that we all were just melting in his hands at that point. He went, all right, it's time. I have to return to me small wife and a large family. And we were like, oh, Irish people are the best. That's his true identity, you believe?

Tommy O'Reilly. I mean, it could have been like Herb Solowitz or something, but he probably was, Tommy O'Reilly. The whole thing was possibly a ruse, but no, it sounds authentic. All right, so let's get to the National Football League Matters. This is our fourth podcast of the week. I believe it's our eighth over the last two weeks. Yeah, yeah. And that's for a reason, right? Mark, this is a big period in the calendar. These are the weeks when you dig in.

And, like, that's why you work on St. Patrick's Day. And I think we typically work on every holiday and we're continuing that effort today. Do you remember last St. Patrick's Day, what we were doing on the show? Little Watson bump. Yeah, I do. It was the day.

I do. Well, we had. We also, essentially, we had done another show and then we left to be free. And then it was like all hands on deck. We have to announce. We have to talk about this guy again for the 14th time. And I were sitting in a bar in El Segundo.

And then a text came over the wire that it had gone down, Watson to Browns. And we did a 30-minute podcast that was our most listened-to show of all time in the history of the podcast. A dark corner. So do we want him just to keep getting traded and moved around? Would that help us ultimately? I don't know. Let's go. Let's get a Lamar Jackson trade later today to ruin the rest of our day.

All right. So we're going to go through all the news, and we will before we sign off. But now that, you know, free agency is really settling in a lot of transactions, how many guys are left, Greg, in the top, like, 20 or so of your original 101? I believe there are only four players in the top 25. And that's just from Monday. If you went back to the original one where it's Gino and Lamar and whatnot, it would be like an even lower number, four or four.

the top 40. Who are the four? Just out of curiosity. Chauncey Gardner Johnson, still out there. Odell, who supposedly wants $20 million a year. I think that explains why he's not finding. Bobby Wagner, who was pointed out to me, waited a long time last year.

Tucson, maybe not in a hurry, wants to figure out which team. There are whispers that he could return to Seattle. Seattle. And also Dallas is in the mix. I think those are probably the two most like it. And then Dalton Shultz. No love for Dalton Shultz out there. You know why?

loaded tight-end draft glass. I wonder if that's hurting his market. Yeah. I may mention Dalton Schultz later in the show. Oh, stick a pin in it because we're going to share some... It's a segment, Gravedigger, that I call sensible transactions for those with a refined positional palette. So it's not just willy-nilly. Right.

Throwing darts. No. We've surveyed the landscape and we're going to... try to match up some players to teams. Only something like 33 of the 101 since Monday even are available. I mean, the NFL does not wait around anymore. It's over quick. All right, let's get to the big news that broke late Wednesday.

The Bengals made a big move on their offensive line, signing left tackle Orlando Brown, formerly of the Chiefs. Four years, 64 million, a major move for the team. And he has blocked Brown for Lamar Jackson and Baltimore. Mahomes in Kansas City and now he's going to take over as the left tackle. This is one of those domino moves

because the left tackle previously in Cincinnati was Jonah Williams who he thought, oh, maybe they'll kick him to the right side. Layall Collins gets traded or released and it works that way. Well, then Jonah Williams comes out, Greg Ian says, well, get me out of here, I'm a left tackle.

So we'll see if there's a move. These tackles really want to play left tackle. It's like the sexy premier position. Cha Ching. I guess that's a big part of it because Jonah Williams, before the draft, said, I do not want to move to guard. I only want to be drafted by a team that's going to take me as a left tackle.

The Bengals ended up doing that. Orlando Brown's the same way where he did not want to play right tackle. He wanted to find a team that would play him there. I don't think Jonah Williams is going to have any trade market. He's due $12.6 million guaranteed this year. He's coming off a dislocated kneecap in a bad year. So I think he might end up battling for that right tackle spot in the end. he might not have a choice.

They're talking about keeping Lyle Collins and Williams and just having depth, which considering all the injuries, makes some sense. I love the move. I love the Bengals not standing pat, you know? And their offensive line was better last year, but it wasn't amazing, certainly not at left tackle. And I like that they found pretty good value, too, with the price tag.

Yeah, the contract, I love it for Cincinnati. And it's like you knew we are looking at big money for Joe Burrow, for Jamar Chase, for T. Higgins. But I love them pouring more money into the line. as much as they tried to do that last year, we saw the chaos that unfurled towards the end of the campaign when you lost a bunch of guys. So it's like, if you want to keep Lyle

Collins, if you want to keep Orlando Brown, if Jonah Williams is untradable, why not stack player on top of player and basically not allow for that to happen again? You need depth, yes, yes. Really, this contract, like, I'm a little surprised they got him for this. I mean, he turned down a much bigger offer,

a longer six-year deal from the Chiefs. I wonder how he feels about all this. Well, you know, at least he has an agent. Because agents are infallible. They can't ever lose. I was simply sitting the table for this scenario. You set it up. And Greg knocked the down.

I'm just saying, yeah, the chiefs. I think the offer was five for 91 last year. It's very guaranteed and a little bit front-loaded where it's really a three-year, $50 million deal. But basically the same type of deal Nate Solder got for the Giants about five years ago. So a little surprising. Are you going in the interest of fairness as a journalist? Are you going to, when there are deals that seem player-friendly, you're going to point out that the agent did a good job?

when they're player-friendly. Oh, I mean, I think I don't plan to be fair. No. Okay. I mean, but like the guys that are out there now. That's a drop. Like the guys that are out there now, like a Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, for the most part, or as Schultz,

it's because they don't have the value that their expectations were. And so I think Orlando Brown probably had to pivot. Put Odell in that place. Off what his expectations were. But he did quite well in the end. This from Seth Walder, who's a good follow. He's with ESPN in their analytics department. Jonah Williams, FYI, he's 25 years old,

the left tackle that has played for some big teams, but his past block win rate last season amongst tackles of qualified 55th of 64. His run block win rate, well, at least he's good at that note, 44th of 64th. So this is a potential big upgrade here for Cincinnati, and we were just talking about it on our last show.

It's like, hey, I'm not bangles. Let's get going on. Let's do something. This is a big move, and it makes them potentially a lot better at really a vital, vital spot considering the quarterback. It felt like a lot of people were leaving Cincinnati, but where they stand right now, they've got their entire coaching staff coming back. You could have lost both coordinators. That was in the mix. They didn't.

And 21 of 25 starters, and one of the new faces is Orlando Brown. That's a good point, Mark. Jumar Chase, T. Higgins, like, oh, there was a talk about Higgins leaving. He's not leaving. Tyler Boyd, he hasn't left. yet. Joe Mixin, I'm still waiting for that to possibly happen, but Samaji P. Rine's gone, and maybe they're going to keep

mixing after all. Layall Collins. Like, they did re-sign Jermaine Pratt. They need help in the secondary, so they have issues, but I really love this move, especially because I think it's going to help their ground game, too. I mean, Orlando Brown, the rep on him is like, good enough pass blocker.

Played really well in the Chief's championship run. I think at the fans were upset. Some of the talk about them in the coaching staff maybe a little upset with Brown's play first half of the year. Awesome down the stretch. And I think they'll be able to run the ball better with them. And what does this mean for the Chiefs?

Well, they've got Joanne Taylor. They gave him big money. The talk is that he's going to play left tackle. I mean, he got possibly a better contract than Orlando Brown, which is a little surprised. I think he gets $60 million in his first three years, 40 in the first two. But there is still this buzz that they might be in on Laramie Tunsell. And my God, if they find a way to afford Laramie Tunsell. Right.

They'll find a way. So Joanne Taylor's at right tackle, tonsils at left? Wow. Yeah, I think it's KC's time to make a move because the AFCs we're talking about, especially now you're going to have Rogers entering the picture with the Jets. This is a really competitive conference. They lost Juan Thorn Hill was an important part of their secondary. Now they lose their left tackle.

Lost Juju? I mean, they need some things. Yeah, they lost both tackles too. Andrew Wiley left. They do have Lucas Nyang, who is a third round pick who's played for them, who I think they are probably looking at like Taylor replaces Brown and they'll survive if they don't have to pick up a big name. But man, that would be amazing if they got tons of.

In other news, the defending NFC champion Eagles. It looked like Darius Lay was on his way out of town. It even was reported that that was what was going on a couple days back. He went on to the top 101 in the top 20. And I don't know if he ever technically was a free agent. Well, it all ends with him sticking with the Eagles on a two-year, $32 million extension through 2025.

So he stays there and now you have Slay Bradbury together moving forward strong back end. Yeah, I mean, you also retain Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox were a week removed. I think Rashad Penny, if he stays healthy, is an upgrade over Miles Sanders

and could be in for like a monster season in that offense. So Howie Roseman, the Eagles, they always find a way. And, you know, there must be, these are players that obviously we talked about the Nick Siriani experience in that locker room, the reason the players responded to him, it's like when you get guys

coming back like this, it just tells me they believe in what's happening entirely and why shouldn't they? But you essentially are running it back. Like, they could have been a massive sea chains for a new defensive coordinator, Sean Desai. Instead, he's got a lot of the same faces and they do run similar elements to last year's defense.

And you have two first round picks, which is nice. You have the number 10 overall pick. Gardner Johnson is the one to see if they bring back then it really feels like everyone's coming back and it sounds to me like it's Eagles or Broncos which led by Sean Payton Gardner Johnson's old coach

so he didn't have a problem with Gardner Johnson at one point in free agency and this is dangerous you know the socials Gardner Johnson just followed like nine or 10 different Broncos and the Broncos organization and everyone got all excited but he's still unsigned toughy still unsigned that's a breadcrumb

though I mean yeah I think he thought he was going maybe I don't know I'm looking at, because everybody loves Penny's potential. I'm just looking, he's started 18 games in the last, or appeared in 18 games in the last three years. They brought Scott back Boston Scott. Kenny Gainwell played more snaps in the Super Bowl and played quite well throughout those playoffs.

It's a good backfield. Then Miles Sanders. So I think Gainwell is kind of their 1A or 1B, and that wouldn't be surprised if they bring in someone to. Who did you? That was. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Give me the Bay Street All-Stars, wherever the hell that is.

I was, I've just disappointed that it's on in New York City, doesn't have verses, but then I got an idea. So I love challenging our listeners because they're very musically inclined, many of them. Well, some of them, but because they're a large pool to pick from, it seems like all of them. I'm not saying like 90% or. of our listeners are musically inclined. But, like, 5% are, and we have a lot of listeners. Right, that's 4,000 people. Exactly.

Cessler taking a shot at, like, Fred sitting in his basement. I think you know. If unless you're a child with false dreams, you know if you're not musically inclined. After Tommy O'Reilly took a shot from the book depository, now you got Fred taking heat. I mean, I'm sitting around talking about and whistle all over town. I like our musicians. Justin Graver, can we provide our listeners? access to this song in some way

and then let them build out some verses maybe a bridge getting back to the chorus give a chance. I don't see why not. Let's see what we can do. All right. I'll post something. First, they need to have the raw music to work off.

Right. All right. That's a fun little project. Drop that one in the laps of those listeners. It did really bother you that there were no... I thought it was a missed opportunity. That's just the chorus. The whole track is only one minute.

12 seconds. So challenge to the listeners. Let's see what you can do. Right. It's basically, here's the skeleton. Do something with it. Right.

Also, I was thinking, why don't we have the listeners send in more Colleen Wolf songs? Open it up to, what is it, the ATN podcast at Gmail? Absolutely. Maybe we should have another song competition.

Claybubh, Patrick. Claybone needs a theme song. Yep, get on that, please. My only note to all the listeners out there making music for us is you got to make your own music. You can't steal an instrumental bed off the web off the internet somewhere. We can't run those, but if you make your own music and you submit us, that'll be awesome. Angry lawyers. Exactly.

Just follow the copyright laws and we'll be all good. All right. The Giants signed wide receiver Paris Campbell, formerly of the Colts, one year, $3 million. You get up to $7 million if he hits a bunch of incentives. He had a pretty nice season for the Colts, which is significant considering how terrible the Colts were last year, totaling 63 catches for 623 yards and three touchdowns. And the only move the Giants made, they bring back Darius Slayton, who's flashed as a wide receiver for them.

These aren't big time names. It does feel like Mark. Maybe they, you know, giving Danny Dimes a true number one with Darren Waller there. Now we're cooking. But this is, that's a pretty good crew with Saquan, of course, back in the fold. Yeah, they sit out there as like maybe. It's a decent crew. Yeah, but they're missing like that guy that maybe you go trade for,

which I'm not sure who that would be right now. But I think this is a, the Giants want to get. faster in general, I think, at that position. Paris Campbell runs a 4.3140, did it the Combine. He is a slot guy, but they have Wondell Robinson as well, so there's a little bit of redundancy there. They also have Sterling Shepard. I mean, they have a lot of guys,

and they're going to see who works. Isaiah Hodgins is there. These moves spelled out to me, plus the reporting in New York that, like, they are not going to be in on OBJ period. They're not going to be spending that much on receivers. The Jets, actually, according to Diana Rossini. have been in contact with OBJ.

Well, it was demanded of them. We would assume that at this point, right? It was a demand made by the incoming quarterback that he must be on the team. Why not call him up and see what he has to be fine? Yeah. I don't actually, I personally would want to.

I do think it's amazing after all the years we've done the show that you have to suddenly deal with the foibles and the ups and downs of Aaron Rogers' personality and you get O'Dell. It feels and seven primetime games. I don't need O'Dell Beckham. I don't have demands. I don't really need O'Dell Beckham and Aaron Rogers on this team. I'm just going to put out there. That's my personal wish.

You may not get what you need, but you may get it. Alan Lazzard, great. Keep Elijah Moore on the team. Do not send Elijah Moore to Green Bay. Could see that happening. I don't do that. I think they have to, the Giants, use their first round pick on a receiver, though. It's like, you're really going to try it out this group?

Something's coming, I think. And that's fine. They're at a spot in the draft number 25. It's not a great receiver class, but there's probably like a four, five pack of guys people like, depending on which flavor you like, who are all probably going to go in the 20 or 18 to 32 area. So that feels

like it, because counting on Darren Waller to be your number one, it feels like... No, and I also like that Cadarius Tony trade to me just stands out as one of the... They've been a pretty good team in terms of, I think under Shane, like, building the roster. That, to me, never really worked. They couldn't get along with them.

All right. Let's pause right here and take a break. We'll be right back. In other news. Matthew Stafford still makes sense to me and others that he might be traded somewhere to a team that's looking to win a Super Bowl, which doesn't feel like the Rams right now. However, the money tells us more and more that maybe he's not going anywhere because Thursday was a deadline day connected to his contract. And since he is on the roster still on Friday, 57 million fully guaranteed is $31 million base salary. 24 also a $26 million option bonus now must be exercised uh you know it's a lot of cheddar for a guy coming off of spinal contusion and an elbow injury and uh entering his late 30s but this is part of you know the bill come and do for the ramps he he's locked in but the bill

come and do is largely the bill that they were they ordered all the meals last year like there's there's an idea that this is all coming from these moves they made no they signed cup Stafford and Donald in 2022. And they signed them basically knowing they're going to have them three more years or else. And yeah, Stafford will be, what, turning 37 by the end of this deal. But if they were to trade them, I just like, because this is funny, if they were to trade him for some reason right now, they would have a trillion dollar debt cap hit. They would take a 54 million, not even just the dead money would be 74 million. And they would have 54 million dollars less available.

So I think we can rule out the trade. If it was going to happen, and I did actually ask around a little bit. If there was any chance for it, it would have to happen before this. Yeah, the money's in his bank account. This basically ended it. I think there was a chance that if someone really wanted him, you could move him before today. And we'd be in a different situation. He would have been a perfectly sensible jet pivot if Rogers last Friday, instead of saying,

Jets, I want to play with you, I don't want to play with you or I'm going to retire. That would have made a lot of sense. And the next six days would have been very very. very interesting. Didn't happen. And I don't see like a natural dancing partner right now anyway. I've been looking up down the list. I don't either. I think where I really liked it and they can't do this unless they want to take that. You would get that. It'd be 18.5 million dead money over this season in the next three. If you could move them for a really high ransom price in August, if you lost a quarterback, I kept saying that with Jimmy G last year, but it's like if someone got super desperate and

they were like, we are a Super Bowl team, you could sell Matthew Stafford as a concept and get something in back. I mean, they are in rebuild mode. they're just not moving Matthew Stafford because... I like that when you said rub-ild. Why did you move away from a rub-o-l-d-rub-l'd-d-rott? Not intentionally, just where it comes in the sentence. It was so nice when you said rub-ild.

I'll focus on that from here on now. I'll try to correct that. Sorry, go ahead. You want to finish that? No, I think the Rams, like, I think the Rams want to move on from all these dudes in a way and cut it down even deeper. They just can't.

Sometimes the bit and the end of the take. Perfect. And of matching up. Symmetry, yeah. You know who else? is looking to move on uh the vikings are they seem like they're done with dalvin cook uh they resign running back alexander madison to a two year seven million dollar contract there's been a lot of reporting around from people that cover the vikings that minnesota would be open to moving cook

off the roster uh potentially via release but he has a shoulder surgery that was complicating things but anyway the pell razor i said the pill razor Where's the television? Where's he based? Minnesota, I believe, is where he's been spent a lot of his time. That's an issue for us as well. It's not like he's walking around the NFL network offices where we could, you know, come up to him at the water cooler and be like, yo. We got your nickname.

Got one. Do you want to hear what a deal? Major branding opportunity that we are literally doing the legwork on your behalf. Right. It is impossible to communicate with people who aren't face to face these days. No. Can't do it. Impossible.

No technological advancement. We're made. Anyway, Pellraiser reported about the Madison deal, and now we'll find out, Greg, if Dalvin Cook is indeed heading. The Vikings are in transition. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, that's why more news is coming. Like, the deluge of, like, daily podcasts and a huge waterfall is over. But, like, the Vikings are one team.

I don't know what else is coming because I think a Cook release is coming. We know Harrison Smith's going to stay. There was a little bit of a surprise, so they did a nice job. Did you take a haircut? He did. He did take a pay cut. Adam Thieland's a free agent, so he's expected to leave. But there's some weird things bubbling here.

Zadaria Smith wanted out. He's still there. Marcus Davenport, which was widely reported as signing with the Vikings, was not present with the rest of the free agents as they introduced him in Minnesota. So if you go to OurLads.com, he's on the depth chart. But officially, he is not on the Vikings. and there's some talk of like maybe they have to make another move

to make room for one Davenport or maybe it's one of those moves that changes as the week changes it seems like they are one of the few teams that are really so close to the cap that like every move has to have an accompanying move with it. Harrison Smith said whether it was reporting that he stayed out

he took a haircut because he was genuinely intrigued with Brian Flores and what he brings he's also been there since 2012 he probably was like kids in school who knows it could be like I want to have a statue. Yeah.

I want a statue. That's his quote. Maybe he also noticed the NFLPA, that top 32 rankings of team facilities and whatnot. Vikings, number one on the list. A boom. One of the things people liked was all the free food. I think that was pretty common was free food, but the facilities were very nice. But Byron Murphy, who came from Arizona.

Free food. Signed there. These guys are millionaires. I know, but it does make a difference. The tuna fish sandwich is free, so I am taking a haircut to stay with the Vikings. I really just assume NFL cafeteria is provided all food for free and nutrition. You've got to go to the computer station. You got to swipe the cart.

And to that point, Byron Murphy arrived from Arizona today and they asked them about everything. And he said, well, it's like, now it's all you can eat. He was like so happy living life that in Arizona he would have to pay for his lunch. But here, all you can eat. That's dark. Elsewhere in the NFC, North, the Bears. entered free agency with a ton of money. They're spending it.

They signed Dante Foreman, PJ Walker, and Robert. Tonyan, Bobby Tonian, as they keep spending marked. I like Tonian paired with Cole Commet. You suddenly have DJ Moore, Darnel Mooney, Chase Claypool. Danta Foreman,

Khalil Herbert. This is suddenly, and the Bears just went and did it, there are pieces around Justin Fields, and they went and got the number one wide out when there may not be one in the draft that fits them. Andrew Billings was another defensive tackle who would be a rotation guy.

for them. I'm just like counting the numbers. They've signed the most people and the most potential starters. You could be them in the Falcons, right? You could count five or six. And it was important, I think, to get PJ Walker in the building because now you have the chance to bring back the greatest play of 2002. P.J. Walker to DJ Moore. They traveled to Chicago together. Oh my God, he loved that place so much. Do you have that? That would be a big ask. Not handy If you're going to cite the play, Greg Let's get it

Let's listen to it Hey, I'm a jazz artist I'm just making this up as I go along I wasn't planning this out Did you just call yourself a jazz artist I can put it in the show and post And no one would ever know Right, stick it in there

How about now? We're going to leave all this in And then here is the play Yeah Three man rush takes the snap Drops back, rolls to his left He's flushed loads up Heirs it deep downfield for DJ Moore Behind his man

Oh, my God, he caught the ball. DJ Moore, caught the ball. How did that happen? Oh, my goodness. Touchdown Carolina. This is amazing. Jazzman. Great job, Graved Digger.

It was a great play. I remember that was a memorable moment from the season, how in love you were with that play, which was a very nice start. It was also, it was rolling left and threw it 67 yards to win the game. I mean, yeah. We don't need to do it. He can throw. I mean, PJ Walker's playing a lot.

The bears are in hot water. True, true. All right, let's hit some odds and ands. Odds and ends. Hey, everybody, tell your friends. It's odds and ends. Is anyone else disturbed by that? It's starting to disturb.

There's something unsettling about it. It's that third track, I think, that took it somewhere ominous. There's too many, Colleen. It feels now kind of like similar to like an ayahuasca trend. trip and you're running through a forest and all these Colleen's are chasing you and they all have knives. All of them. But it's almost

Colleen's head on a doll's body chasing after you. Anybody else getting that vision? I see you're coming from. I think we're keeping you off the hallucinogenics during the show. I've been watching Wednesday on Netflix. I should add that. That is the best thing about that show. Like from a plot standpoint it's not really geared toward me. The lead performance is excellent as I've stated.

The actor is tremendous, but it's Burton. I know you're a real cinephile, Mark. I'm not a big Tim Burton guy at all, but I would say I've watched the first world he makes. The first two and a half episodes of Wednesday, and I'm with you. I think the shows got legs. How about Tim Burton, Greg?

Beetle juice. Very, very watchable. Beetlejuice holds up, I would say. I've seen it recently. I've actually not seen that. So I shouldn't, I'm not sure. I've never seen Beeto juice? I mean, that's number one.

Because that's literally not my type of movie. So I, like, I went out of my way to not... Cisor Hands, I could see maybe you wouldn't like it, but I'm not into Cisorhands. You ever see Pee Wee's Big Adventure, his directorial debut? That, I would say... One of the classics of their 19-Nands. Big Fish, a little bit of meh. You ever hear of a little movie called Batman?

He changed the entire world of superhero. Was that not Batman, too? I believe it was like, it was an absolute disaster. It was an absolute disaster. You're thinking of a little movie named Ed Wood? You're thinking of Joe. Schumacher who drove the Batman franchise into the ground.

I believe Burton's Batman, I literally did not like from it. The sequel, Batman 2 at least. There was a mess. He did the original. He did the original. It's great. I have no problem with the original. Like I'm not saying it's just like you, like don't tag me as a Tim Burton guy which happens on this show. It's like I am forcibly telling you.

You're tagged as a Tim Burton guy. I'm just saying that we could have gone and I got, you know, sometimes. Yeah, thank you Justin. Batman returns is very dark. It's like why can't we get a show under 77 minutes. Yeah, where are you Burtonheads out there? Come for me.

I don't want to hear about it, by the way. Cooper Rush is back with the Cowboys. That's good. We like Cooper Rush. Devin Bush, a linebacker, and Julian love the safety to the Seahawks. They've been very active. They have.

And a lot of pretty good, like under the radar, cheap moves. What are the Seahawks? I love that question. The Dolphins bring in old friend Braxton Barrios. He is all over the AFC East, and now it's time for Miami. The Steelers cut ties with

Miles Jack, the former second round pick of Jacksonville, who's now bouncing around a little bit. And that is, that's it. Well, they signed to London Roberts, too, the Steelers, because you don't have Devin Bush, you don't have Miles Jack, so you're kind of starting over at that position. Dolphins also got the old Patriots Pro Bowl punter, Jack, Jake Bailey, who had fallen on hard times. A lot of receivers there. I could see Braxton Barrios having, like, one big moment in Miami. I like Braxton Barrios. he's a charismatic guy.

He also had the biggest drop of the season for New York in the end zone on fourth down in Minnesota. That's part of the package. With Mike White playing his guts out in that game and cost him that game and they never recovered after that. But I hope he does well. He's like their fourth receiver.

You got Cedric Wilson there too. All right. Before we take a break, let's check in with some best of moments from the opening press conferences across our league, starting with Jordan Poyer, who resigned with the bills. I know I said some stuff about the taxes.

I think we can only agree that we're like, what the hell? Like, yes. I mean, sorry. I said it. I said the truth. I like that. How about Jalen Ramsey on the thoughts that he slipped a little bit on the field as a player in 2022? You got to cut on the film now.

You got to really watch it. You got to really watch it, you know. You don't become the successful, you know, without actually doing. good things on that field. How about Jacoby Myers, now wide receiver of the Raiders, talking about a very infamous play with the Patriots at the Raiders' home field

from last year? You know the one. I'll be the guy that addresses the question about what happened here last year. I was waiting on it. I was waiting on it. Thank you. I appreciate you, man. Thank you. Matt, take us through your thoughts on that play. Have any of your new teammates, You already giving you a little bit of crap about it,

and how important is for you to create new memories in Las Vegas to write about it in a way? I mean, that was a humbling experience. You know, as a man, as a football player, that was just tough. You know, I knew what it meant to the team that I was on at the time. And so it really hurt me because, like I said, family is really big for me. So when I went through it, in the moment, my heart was broken, you know. But days after just seeing how guys kind of rallied around me, it built me up as a person. Now I know, like whenever one of my teammates mess up, who I want to be in that situation, you know.

That's a good answer. That's a quality that I've seen, Greg. You had a tough situation and you turn it into something positive. That's sort of, I view that. Beacon of integrity. Absolutely. That's why I loved Jacoby Myers. It was sad to see him go.

Yeah, I think he was maybe a better player than Juju Smith-Schuster, but whatever. How about Alan Lazard, new wide receiver of the Jets, an ongoing weird situation, doing a press conference talking about a guy, a quarterback that isn't actually on his team right now. but it is a strange situation. Leverage gate. But they didn't seem like they were going to miss me too much. Had a strong inclination that it was going to be my last season then. Interesting.

That's a little interesting. Lazzard, we still haven't seen all the specifics, but got at least like an equal contract to any wide receiver. He does have the traits. He looks like a number one receiver, but the numbers aren't any better than Jacobi Myers. That's for sure. It might have been in the demand sheet.

Make him the highest paid. A lot of these Packers players, feeling like the team's not into them while they're playing for them. Not a good thing. Not a great side. How about Derek Carr, new face of the New Orleans Saints? I just want to provide, you know, leadership, you know, someone that's going to love their teammates. I love this guy. I'm not coming in here to try and take anything over. Like, I'm not taking anything over. I'm going to be me. And I'll block you on Twitter if you see anything against what I believe about it. Well, no, I'm just a little, little sensitive. I think you hate Derek Carr.

I do not at all. I think actually I gave him appropriately immense credit for I handled two seasons ago with the Raiders. They did him wrong, and I wish him well, but there's something about the Derek Hart, the podium thing that I find a little bit artificial at times. I just double-checked. I doubt he was like on top of my top 101 rankings, but I was worried after ranking Daniel Jones, I think, ahead of him one spot.

But no, not blocked still. He's like that guy that played Elvis in the movie. Austin Butler? Austin Butler, where it's like, where is this accent coming from? Is this how you talk? Is this an affectation? Who are you, Derek? car well no in the movie yeah he does the elvis voice right and then he started doing the press

junkets butler i think i'm talking a lot of hollywood lately um and he kept the elvis accent and then people started pulling junkets pre elvis and he talks like a regular dude and then they pulled the post elvis shoot and now he talks like he lives in gracedland well i mean i yeah i think that he got so well there's that there's bryan kelly who did that when he went to ls u's like you're not my theory about derrick car's accent You think it's fake? I think there's some type of thing going on with it. Where's he from?

Like Fresno? Central California is kind of a different place. I don't know what the accents are like there, but it's different. But sometimes like that one was a little toned down, but sometimes we'll have like a twang in his voice. And it's like, where are you from, bro? Well, it would be nice to see him traded to like the Northeast at some point. Then he adapts a, you know. I love being here.

That would be worth it. He's in Bakersfield, I think, is where he's set up shop. Okay. And finally, we have Orlando Brown, new left tackle of the Cincinnati Bengals. Just, you know, for them to believe in me as a left tackle was enough. And, you know, man, I'm willing to put my life on the line for that. Boom! Now I feel good about that guy.

Yeah, these guys want to play the position that they were born to play. He was really making me laugh, talking about how he met with Marvin Lewis in the pre-draft process. Supposedly the Bengals were going to take him potentially. that's what a lot of people thought and he mentioned some memories of that process including when Marvin Lewis asked him what the capital of Spain was and his answer was Portugal

and he says I really blew that one he always wondered if that's why he didn't get drafted by the Beckness I don't think that was a question What is the capital of Spain? Madrid? Madrid. That's a guess. That's great. Oh, one more. Jimmy G on how

coming to the Raiders affects him from a sartorial sense it's really cool it really is uh just get to wear black all black I mean that's that's the one of the coolest parts of it I think I know it sounds cliche and I'll tell you what he did look good in black in that open impressor there's a chefter put out a

you know a picture of him with like his amazing suit and like holding the Raiders jersey and he his whole countenance in the way that his hair is done in the shades of his hair and everything it kind of just all fits not if it's going to fit on the field but like he looks good in that Raiders get up absolutely and you know we were debating with we have different feelings about Jimmy G's suit I mean they had the little logo on it looks great it looks good oh that would make more

sense but it was it did all look very Raiders-esque and I think he had the look down and you know daddy likes mommy daddy doesn't like daddy but I could tell you that a man is thanks for clearing that up yeah I yeah I just I think I see him as like I don't everyone seems to think he's a little hotter than I think he is but who am I to judge thank you daddy all right Let's take a break and throw out some moves that would make sense. The National Football League's free agency period is underway, and now we as analysts of the sport are here to offer. sensible transactions for those with a refined palette in such matters. What does that mean?

Not sure. I think what I mean is, don't just go with it earlier. Look at what the team, the teams that, what they've done so far, what are still, who's available or potentially available, what makes sense fiscally. Let's make the listeners smarter, Greg. we're starting with you. No, I think we should start with you because sometimes with these segments, I don't even totally know that there's going to be beautiful classical music and sensibility.

And I feel like I want my leader, my host, my co-host. Oh, you almost had it. You almost had me. To show me where he's going with this. All right. We could take it down now. All right, I'll throw it out there. A sensible transaction for those with a reference.

find positional palette the new england patriots are what have they done so far we talked about they decided to move move on from um jacobi meyers and you know you don't think that had anything to do with the play do you no no no right no but it was so embarrassing for bill do you think there's part of him that would be like i can't have anything that reminds me of that around me ever again no i didn't sense it with this particular you're a player, but who would know? That's a theory that hangs out there. I mean, did they get rid of Ellis Hobbs after he gave up that touchdown to

Plaxical Burris in the Super World? Maybe. Did keep Rodney around. I mean, there's been some embarrassing moments. How about Justin, after the pick six Tennessee Titans in the AFC wildcard playoffs, Tom Brady wasn't around no more after that. Nope. Who had that pick six?

I know you know, Justin. Logan Ryan, who went to play with Tom Brady in Tampa Bay. Oh, interesting. That was the friend where he was going to the puppy farm every week with the daughters. Yeah, Logan Ryan's a big charity revolving around saving puppies. And he's like, and I never told anybody about that until I retired and then we needed some puff pieces about post-retirement, who I am as a man. It was Logan Ryan's wife who did it.

See, now you're just making a fact. It was Logan Ryan's wife who did it. Sounds like a kind person. He was playing the long game on the puppy. He just knew that she would do that. Come on. It was going to get out eventually. It's Tom Brady at a puppy mill.

He's just sitting on it. So I'm not, he's not going to say it, but he knows eventually it will get out. And they'll be like, and Tom never even said anything about it. It's like a double win. Anyway. So the Patriots, they have juju in the building. They have Bill O'Brien is the O'C. McCorkel Jones is back at quarterback.

Mike Gasecki is signed. the former tight end of the Dolphins that is definitely somebody that can make a play with the ball on his hands but there's something missing here and I mentioned on the last show but now I'm going to play it

and thank you to HBO NFL Films this was a pregame conversation between Bill Belichick and a certain former all pro wide receiver of the Arizona Cardinals I'm glad we only have to play you every four years man I love you man

you too you too what a career you're having miss half the season's still going to lead a league in receiving you know I do my job man yeah I'm trying to get better man I love Belichick I do my job he's gonna like that line I do love as Belichick ages and as I age I do love Bill more and more I think him not going to the Super Bowl

every year is helping as well yeah being like a walking eight and nine is helping your enjoyment but yeah that I think there's something to take out of that that was this past season And now they need a number one wide receiver to kind of cap off this like reboot of the offense. It makes so much sense for the Pat's to send, you know, second, third round pick, maybe a second to bring in Newk Hopkins. And then once you have Nuke in there, Gregi, I think as Pat's fan, you're really feeling pretty good then.

You're looking at the roster and you're saying, there's my number one. Juju's a perfect, versatile kind of two, number two guy you have, now you're going to. have Gaseki who can make plays a tight end. You trust the play calling with O'Brien and his comfortable in the system and knows Belichick and what he wants. And then you're saying Mac Jones, year three, make that leap.

Yeah, you still have Hunter Henry too. So Gaseki, I think, got what, something like $4 or $5 million a base salary? We haven't totally learned in some incentives. He's the second guy. You get Devante Parker off the roster. Basically, DeAndre Hopkins is a much better version to me of Devante Parker, who's

still there. Tyquan Thornton, Had some speed, second round pick. Kendrick Borden's sitting around. Yeah, I don't think that would be their big weakness. And I totally agree. They can't draft receivers. They're famous for burning their second round picks year after year. It's just been like a bad luck round for them.

Let's just use it on a guy, you know. We'll have one or two years left. Yeah, there's a little fly in the ointment, though, because first of all, I think Mike Kisicki was recruited by Bill O'Brien to play at Penn State. So I see why that fit happens. I think he's an upgrade over John New Smith. but Bill O'Brien did not end things well with DeAndre Hopkins when he traded him to Arizona.

I mean, I'm sure all that stuff can be, that can be pretty much fixed. Yeah, but is it going to stop a deal? Well, I don't think Bill O'Brien's going to stop a deal, but I just, I think also that it really, really fits. And I mean, I think when Belichick likes a player, it goes back to when he scouted him probably before the draft process. And he admires some of these guys so much that I think it still would be true. But the Bill O'Brien thing is just sitting out there as,

something that DeAndre Hopkins might think about. Sensible, be sensible about it. Logical that that could be a fly in the oint. But I would think Belichick, I mean, who would you rather have, Greg? DeAndre Hopkins or Bill O'Brien as an offensive coordinator. You already have Bill O'Brien. Well, I'm just saying, like, Bill's playing chess here. If he was looking at my offseason plan and he's like, I want nuke on my team,

would he bring in Bill O'Brien if you thought that that would nuke a chance to get nuke? I don't, I just, these guys can make it up with one conversation and move on you. I mean, I don't know if he's playing Mouse Trap with the way he hired his offensive coordinator last year. I'm starting to wonder. Mouse Trap. I don't know. Trying to think of a very basic operation.

Basic game. Actually, it does take a lot of work setting up tidly wings. Pong. Pong. Pong. Pong would have been. Mousetrap, half the fun was, you know, putting all the pieces together. Then it became less.

It was more like going through the motions. I like that. All right. Sensible? I think so. For a refined palace? Okay, now I didn't know if you were going to like extend the whole. thing.

No, I would give you heads up. This is all about ball. Go ahead. Okay, I'm going to talk about the Denver Broncos and their receiver situation. When a team puts receivers on the market,

in this case, Jerry Judy, and or Cortland Sutton. Interesting that it's like either or. Yeah? That doesn't happen. History tells us eventually that guy's getting moved. It's like Darren Waller on the market,

last trade deadline, eventually got moved. And now we're hearing reports, well, the Broncos were just getting offers from other people. And now they're thinking they wanted a first round pick. Plus, they're going to hold on. Just put a pin in this. Let's come back around draft time. And let's make a trade for Jerry Judy, who doesn't have a long-term guaranteed salary like Cortland Sutton. So I think is a little more tradable.

And there's a host of teams I could put them on. The Cowboys would be flashy. but you know who needs them even more and still plays in the NFL? How about the Carolina Panthers? You just traded your best receiver in DJ Moore. Your number one receiver right now is Terris Marshall. You're going to have to play football.

And I think Jerry Judy can fit a timeline of a young team getting better. He's still younger. Let's send a, I don't know, a second round picks. That makes a ton of sense. They're now the team without the number one. And like I thought the Browns are a target. They are missing some people at that position.

And it's like, what did you do? all this for if you're not going to like surround Sean Watson with a ton of weapons. They don't have a lot at wide receiver. But I think the Patriots thing with Dandre Hopkins doesn't happen. Like one of these Broncos wide outs might work there as well. It's like, I'm so with you that the Broncos, I don't

care what they're saying. They have broadcasted it strongly that these guys, like I think Cortland Sun just doesn't really fit what Sean Peyton wants to some degree. It's like we're moving these dudes. Maybe Sutton would be the guy that they do move. And I know the Panthers just traded away a bunch of picks. They do have their first. They do have a second.

and a third. So they're not crazy short. But the Cowboys are another team here that would make some sense to wait it out. Doesn't seem they're ready to get OBJ. I have my second one is directly connected. So I'll just do it real quick. I also had Judy. I want to see Judy move to a team where we could cash in on his potential, which I still think is very high.

And it's been almost entirely untapped. Injuries have played a role, but a lot of quarterback dysfunction and organizational dysfunction as well since he was the first round pick i remember it was him and henry rugs in that draft that were you know the buzzy wide receivers taken up top and we know everything that went down with rugs and judy has been disappointing overall i was looking at the bills as a team that yeah we've been talking about like how do you give how do you take josh allen now with brian dable gone and you put too much on his shoulders and you add some more around him and we've talked about derrick henry and I don't know what's going on with Henry

and people connected Saquan to the bills and so far it's been pretty quiet. I know Isaiah McKenzie was let go this week. Judy and Judy being unlocked by a talent like Josh Allen with Stefan Diggs on the field with him is a very exciting thought. So it's sensible but also some wish casting because I do want to see what Judy could do.

Yeah, I like it a lot because I think like Judy could suddenly have one of these seasons where it's like, well, that was a situation where Denver went through all that. chaos. We didn't see the player. I can see that. But I also think if you're the bills, it's like you are, you view yourself as like this season right now, his Super Bowl or bust, like that guy you get because they do need that wide out, I think, like has to be rock solid. I just, it seems like a little bit of a, you're hoping he'd be that guy.

You'd hoping he'd fit. It wouldn't be a disappointment in week nine or ten. I mean, they could be in the mix for any of the big names, I suppose. DeAndre Hopkins is one of those guys. Odell Beckham. There's some thoughts. Odell Beckham might not want to play in somewhere that cold. I'm with that. I'm with that. Let's make decisions on warmth. I'm with him. Yeah, that's who I want. Those are the warriors I want. Stop. Uh-oh. It's below 50. I'm not going to try as hard today. I mean, if you've made your money, though, like where you live, I think that matters. You know how short an NFL career is great? They have like 10 years, even the great guys, maybe 12 or 13 to give it their all.

I want 20 million, but it must be in a tropical environment. It's usually a bit of a red flag. Yeah. I got one for you here. I mean, this final chip to fall was Lamar Jackson. And I think about what happened back on March 28, 1984. When the Baltimore cults in the middle of the night, we always heard about this, you know, when we were young in the early 80s, like Mayflower truck.

Exactly. You pack up the trucks, you moved Indianapolis, Baltimore's left out in the cold. Well, I don't, that doesn't help the two teams like each other anymore. But what if we have the odd, poetical move of the Baltimore Ravens, trading Lamar Jackson to the quarterback needy Indianapolis cults who signed Gardner Minchew clearly as a backup and have done nothing else. They're sitting at number four. You can give the Ravens that number four pickback and they'll probably want a quarterback,

but my one thing about the cult sitting at number four and doing nothing is I think you got hopscotched by Carolina. They're obviously going with their guy. Then Houston's going with their guy. Arizona is a ripe team to trade that number three if someone else wanted to get up against the cult. suddenly you are Chris Ballard once again looking at the fourth best guy on the draft board. You have Shane Steichen who already did a great job with Jalen Hertz.

You've got other pieces around them. I think there's a lot to like about the idea Lamar Jackson staying in the AFC, going to a team like Indianapolis that is absolutely going to appreciate him after what they've been through since Andrew Luck retired. It gives them an immediate identity. They can found an entire offense around him. And Shane Stuyken makes so much more sense to me with that situation. and then trying to start over

with the fourth best rookie in this draft class. Shane Steikins really rocketed up like the reputation rankings just for me personally. Just listening to the impact that he's had with everyone that he's worked with. And I don't think it's just smoke being talked.

I would love that. Give me some of that. Yeah, what's going on with Lamar? Is there a better fit than Indianapolis? I heard a little bit of buzz through an unnamed, you know, reporter that just like, okay, just keep keeping eye. And but it's like, we are keeping an eye. I know, but it's just that there's some, some, something buzzing, but the fact that no one is

reporting any, that nothing is reportable out there is, is shocking. I think one thing that has changed in terms of how everyone is dissecting potential trade initially. It was like, oh, they put the, um, the non-exclusive tag on them, which means whoever is going to, they'll do, they will do the, the contract. And then the Ravens can decide. And if they decide, they don't want. want to do that contract, they'll send the two picks. It's just as much, just as likely, if not more so, that it's just more a traditional trade.

Yeah. And in the case of the cults, it's a perfect example because if they're giving you the number four pick, they're probably going to be like, we're not going to give you another number one after that. We'll give you a one and maybe a two and maybe a two the next year. But calm down about getting two number ones off us if we're giving you a top five. Yeah, I think that I think it works for both sides. And that's why I initially thought maybe like,

What if the Texans with that number two pick, and if they weren't in love with a rookie, they were the kind of team that could go after Lamar Jackson and reboot everything. And they've got to, that kind of fits. You could be Baltimore and say, I don't want two ones from a team sitting down in the 20s. I want the chance to get another quarterback to rub.

Put Lamar Jackson in the rearview mirror starting right now. Sensible, Mark. I'd like to think so. Refined. Greg, do you have another one? I'm tapped, so. I do I think that

Odell to the Cowboys is so obvious that it feels destined It feels like it was destined years ago And now it's now or never And yet it feels so necessary They've invested on the defense But I'm going to throw a different Odell location

I don't think there's that many And I really do think He can make a difference As a quality 2 slash 1 somewhere in between He's not going to get that 20 million Hey Atlanta Falcons You gotta go win some ball games this year

Who do you got a wide receiver? You got Drake? London. Great job. Nice pick. Nice job by you. More of like a physical red zone sideline guy. Very different, I think in type to O'Dell Beckham. It's warm in Atlanta.

That's so important. You play indoors. You play indoors. But it's warm when you go outside too. I think that matter. Checks that box. Because I like the green Bay idea for O'Dell just to be like hey Rogers, now we got O'Dell. Eat it. But I don't think he would want to go there.

Chick-fil-A closed in the stadium. on Sundays, but it's open the rest of the week. That's for God, by the way. Yeah. Odell to the Falcons. Just, your number two receiver right now, by the way, is, uh, 2012-second round, six-round pick, Frank Darby. I think outside of Drake, London. You don't, you don't have a receiver. I'm not trying to slight Mr. Darby. He's the only one that's been drafted, uh, by this regime that's on the roster other than London. So that's all, that's all I say. Sorry, sorry Mrs. Darby. You know, the past two seasons,

on this podcast, I've been pushing against Atlanta when you guys have pumped them up. But they just don't excite me, even though it's not against Arthur Smith. It's just they haven't seemed ready. This is the year where it feels like they should be ready to make a move. Exactly. And I'm just so, like, annoyed that they're really going to go Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke, hypothetically. That's what year three all in Falcons is. And then we're going to go get O'Dell Beckham at age 30.

I mean, that's better than not getting them. How about, no. How about you go get a quarterback? How about you go get Johnny Smith? I mean, that's not too exciting. You did get some defensive pieces. I like they brought back Lorenzo Carter for cheap. Anya Mata's a nice signing.

Jesse Bates, like Caden Ellis. Okay. Also, what if the Lamar Jackson thing changes a little bit? And the Falcons get back into that. I think that there was this obviously opening bubble where no one was in on this guaranteed money situation. And then like a team gets back in like the Falcons. They've got a draft that you can switch.

Then I'd feel great about the Falcons. But if this is how it's going to go down and then I'm supposed to get excited about this team because Beckham off his second ACL reconstruction at age 30 after missing a year is going to be the guy that unlocks Desmond Ritter. It's suspicious. Go sell it to somebody else.

Yeah. That's all. Back after this. No. Anything else? I got a couple like ideas. We don't delve deep in them. I will say one thing that Brandon Bean,

because we talked about the bills adding like a rock solid, we know what we get here, said that the team has, Right now it's just James Cook and Naheem Hines under contract that they want to add a heavier power style running back to the roster. How about Derek Henry for a, I'll say even a third. I think you can get them for maybe a fourth, but a third. And bang, you suddenly have an offense that can destroy people in cold weather.

I like this one too as a little, just a couple of quick ideas. In cold weather. If the lions wanted to start over a little bit with, like, we know there's this whole Jared Gough thing. I thought he played great last year, but what if they went and got Lamar Jackson and sent Jared Goff to the Ravens. There's that. How about this?

The Packers, the minute they get rid of Aaron Rogers, the sensibility arrow is going this way. That's not that crazy, because they have the ammunition, number one, and they've got a team around them. I mean, I don't think you keep Jared Goff around in this situation. You're discerning his mood. You don't keep Jared Goff around.

It would be sad if Goff kept getting traded for quarterbacks that are way better than him. Also, totally appropriate. He keeps on making $20 million, though. It's like $30 million. What is he making this year? A lot. Green Bay Packers After Aaron Rogers,

they stick it to him by getting active and free agency. They signed Dalton Schultz to replace Robert Tanya. They don't have a lot of tight end right now. And you make a trade to a Bucks team that's looking to dump guys. You get Mike Evans, Dalton Schultz. You've got the cap room, you've got the picks. I think

it's very possible. I also like Adam Thiel into the Patriots. It just kind of fits. I thought... Because he's white. Basically. Yeah. That was the same thing. Like Andrew Van Ginkle visited them yesterday and people were like oh that's a Patriots move and it's just like just say it yeah well we're saying it I thought

Levante David the whites are at it again I thought Levanti David staying in Tampa is potentially a sign that Mike Evans will as well I think Davis just wants to retire as a buck they might be in the 9 and 8 and everything is great club as well this year oh they would love them some 9 and 8 if they could get

there they did keep a lot of their players Jamel Dean I was surprised ended up staying there for the most part, they kind of kept the defensive ship together. We do have some developing news. Let's do it, Justin Graver. Oh, right. We're coming up a new...

It's appropriate. A new drop. Drew Tranquil, who was one of the top 10 players still available on my list. I don't know if this is it, but it is funny. 42 overall. The one player, Bill Barnwell, said I overrated the most. I remember that. Speaking of Billy Barnwell.

You know who disagrees with Bill? It's on the show Monday. The Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs sign him to a one-year deal. All right. What will we possibly lead Monday's show with now? Barnwell's on the show. Yeah. He's doing the whole show.

I was trying to bring it up. Sorry, we were stepping all over that. No, no, no. You did it for me. It was good. It was all coming together. Like Drew Jekua. I think he's a nice.

Everybody. Oh, go ahead. Hey, he's a nice little linebacker. That's all. Nice little combo there, him and Willie Gay. That's good. All right, good. He went on IR with a knee injury last year.

Blitzer. Not so tranquil. That was a not a tranquil period. Playmaker. Yeah, not tranquil. Causing a lot of havoc. Good, good, good. Yes, Bill Barnwell will be on the show.

I think we have to talk about what we're going to be doing with Barnwell, but I think a good move would be let's just read up on Bill's coverage of a free agency and just riff off his thoughts. Yeah, are they behind a paywall? I would hope not. They are, but I pay for the paywall. All right. So I could read.

I honestly only... You forward them on to us and no one will... I would never do that to the worldwide leader. I have too much respect for what they do. Then I'll come over to your house and read it on your laptop. This is my biggest, the most... Yes, you can do that. The respect I could pay Bill Barnwell.

I have that subscription for Bill Barnwell. Whoa. I think ESPN should understand that. That's probably true of a number of individuals because his columns are like completely next level and that's why we're having on the show. Yes. Friend of the show.

Northeastern University alum. Paywall stretch in other areas, not when it comes to... I'm sure there's a lot of content. But I don't care about their plus. I like NFL Plus. That's a great product. Rosenthal all over at a free agency.

That's a great product. We also, yeah, have that mailbag. You should just go back and listen to whatever we answered a month ago. You know, we should do another one soon. NFL plus check that out around the NFL and that's it for this week of shows barring something insane happening I don't know how much longer we have to keep tagging on that way

but you know like Lamar Jackson comes down at like 11.30 p.m. on St. Patrick's Day that will go well. All right, that's it. This is a little weird. Yes, happy St. Patrick's Day. Everybody have a nice weekend and we will be back on Monday until then

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