NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Free agency prediction time!

Episode Date: March 7, 2017

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling & Gregg Rosenthal – discuss all the latest news from around the NFL including the Jets cutting Brandon Marshall, and rumors surrounding a possible Brandin Cooks trade. Then, the heroes welcome back NFL.com draft analyst Lance Zierlein to wrap up his thoughts on the Combine and who he thought stood out over the weekend. Finally, New Jersey hero Conor Orr joins the show for the third annual free agency edition of “Go Get My Lunch.”Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast has a key to the city of my now. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with some heroes. Chris Wessling to my left. Greg Rosethall to my right. Oh, that's it, please. Hey, Dan.

It's a trance. troubling what's up boys that's like season seven we got to mix it up start just adding wacky voices by seasons if we're still doing this for a seventh season i believe we're about to enter our fifth the fourth season together the the 2017 season which it will be let's not say about to we got six months or so but uh yeah that would be our fifth um if we're still doing this entering a seventh season And that's when we introduce a young, a precocious child. That's adorable. And there will be a video podcast and he'll be brought in to reign in a new generation.

You don't want to be listening to our podcast at that. Let me just keep it clear. Everything falls off after about five years or so, whether you're talking TV shows or, or almost any form of entertainment. I don't think our podcast will be any different. marriages marriages seven year podcast itch yeah I think you know

so we are still in the golden age so let's all enjoy it now before we have to introduce the 17 year old boy named Tito Logan Sessler or Colton Sessler Bring in Colt Mark Sessler by the way and we might have to because Mark

came down with an illness this morning not with us will he be back I don't know it'll be back this is a big week I would assume, you know, I hope he feels, I hope he's feeling better. To be, to the, for you to assume he'll be back almost makes it seem to me that you're saying that he's really not that sick. Whereas I'm not taking out of face value.

Greg just called Mark a malingerer. Yeah. If Mark called in sick with a mystery bug, I am not going to assume he'll be back anytime soon. Well, tomorrow is the first day of the legal tambourine period. It's one of our busiest days of the year. We're going to need Mark Sessler on that desk. That's all I meant. He just wants to hear you say that.

He doesn't like to be thought to be chained to a desk. Oh, he's a very important, valuable member of our team. We're going to need him. All I mean is he's not, I haven't known Mark to be gone from the office too long. If something brings him down, he's usually back, back early the next day. That's all. Save Sessler. Today's around the NFL podcast.

Sponsored, of course, by Mr. Flames' economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Big show today, big show, as we just said, the legal tampering period for free agency, which is so silly. What are we doing here? Why don't we just start free agency tomorrow? This legal tampering. What are we even doing?

I have no answer for you. Well, legal tampering. What kind of term is it? It should not be an oxymoron. Well, but we repeat it. It's not that we shouldn't say it. Let's do something about this. Well, it's a writer-driven term to make fun of the NFL.

Right. But it's totally. totally accurate. Right. Because the negotiations can begin, yeah. Free agency doesn't officially begin until Thursday at 1 p.m. Pacific. But you're allowed to negotiate in a window that begins tomorrow to sign free agents. But like in vague terms, supposedly.

Like you can't have number agreements. It is silly, yeah. Come on, guys. Come back to us. The winking period. Football cognoscenti. So anyway, with that coming up, we will, as we do every year, again, we're right. Right in the good part, right in the guts of that golden period.

So if you know our podcast, you know we're going to do some free agency sandwich props. So get ready and deal with that. Mesophony. Me so phony empire. Where we make predictions for free agency. We do it every year. And that will come up a little later. Also, Lance Zeerline, Xerline of NFL.com.

And you just saw them all. all over NFL network with the Combine coverage. We had him on briefly at the end of Thursday show, but we were a little bit short on time. And we didn't really get to talk to him at the length that we were happy with, Greg. Is that fair to say? Well, plus it was before all of the workouts at the NFL scouting combine took place. And since we're not exactly draft NICs, he can jump in.

Yeah. Give us the info. And then we'll move on to Free Agency Week. Yeah. So we'll get Lance on the Horn. to wrap up the Combine Week and we'll hit some of the news that came out around the league

since the last time we spoke to you on Thursday. So that's it. That's today's show. Not a bad show. I like the show. Let's do the show. Pre-show grade? Yeah, let's bring the pre-show grade.

Pre-show grade? Yeah. Bring it back. Bring it back. God, I love so many things about the show. Lance is fun. Always have a good time talking to Lance. Oh, here we go.

Love. To me, if I were doing a, it was like a last meal type thing, but last podcast, it would absolutely have sandwich props when we're doing that. Can't beat that. And the news are some really juicy stuff. Yeah, I mean, there's no way around this. This is a solid B minus the show.

It's the pre-show grade. Let's do some news, new money. Do you know the definition of evil? Because it comes in a flowing main of Dan Hanson's side of evil. Wow. Yeah, that was him. was move the sticks who it's entered fatal attraction territory how much he thinks about this podcast it's all he thinks about and west there's some whispers that oh it's a bit i don't think

it's a bit i think he opens up our ratings book and he cannot believe what he sees he says oh i'm so successful i'm an NFL network all the time i get to wear a suit with sneakers i'm cool cool dad how how are how is their podcast so much more successful i think and it drives him possibly insane. In my mind, it's a bit on par with the Bob Costas bit that the three of you, including Mark, have been going for four years, and I just don't understand it. It is surprising. Move the sticks, you know, Daniel Jeremiah, who did an awesome job on the scouting combine the last four days.

Greg playing both sides of the fence. No, it's true. We see what you're doing there. He's great. Weighing at 166 pounds, he hails from Martha's Vineyard. He is NFL Network's Greg Rosenthal. Wow. Bulking up a 166.

Yeah, that gives me about 30 pounds too much. And not from Martha's Vineyard. You know, Dan has been propagating this myth forever. I had nothing to do with that, by the way. From Western Massachusetts. Martha's Vineyard. What was that? Is that supposed to be an NFL network drop?

That was an NFL network drop. Okay. Who was it, by the way? I like it. That's funny. That one came from P.D. Bachman. I like that. But we're starting to get away from the core conceit of what this is about.

I mean, that one was. we're starting to float a little bit. Let's rain it in. Maybe we have to in-house produce a couple new ones, Sid, just to get people back to what it really is about. Okay. All right, let's do some news. And we start with the Washington Redskins.

And, you know, I think we touched on this a little bit, gentlemen, last week on the show, that there seems to be a lot of dysfunction in Washington right now. And we're trying to make sense what's going on with Scott McLuhan, the general manager. and all the drama around Kirk Cousins, who it seems like they haven't handled that negotiation well. So we're trying to figure out what's happening in Washington.

And then the Redskins, what do they do? They announce at the Combine that Jay Gruden has signed a two-year extension with the team. They officially announced that signing on Monday. Gruden had two years left on the five-year deal when he was hired in January 2014. According to Rapsheet, the extension was struck late Saturday at prime. I'm 47 Steak House, Greg, where we spent some time last week, which is an amazing, it's amazing, because I did, we actually saw Gruden there on Wednesday night to, so this, this came together quickly. And, but, Greg, does this feel like they're trying to send a smokescreen out to the rest of the, the public about what's really going on in Washington? It is wild.

I think Gruden deserves it. So there's no problem with it. It's amazing that Jay Gruden is the first coach of the Snyder era in the last 20 years to put up back-to-back winning seasons. That includes Joe Gibbs, by the way, who some people on our network said was the greatest coach of all time. He couldn't do that. Isn't he also the first coach of the Snyder era to get an extension? Right, which is outrageous. And so that's all fine.

But the fact that it happened at a point where the Redskins are almost, it's almost like politics. You know, a little Washington. It's almost like they're trying to throw people off the scent of what's going on here. Mike Jones, who's a good beat reporter for the Washington Post, was on the radio on Monday. And he said McLoon is watching the Combine at home, watching film at home, and like trying to do his work at home and is essentially persona non grata right now. And he believes, Mike Jones believes, that he will no longer be with the club after the NFL draft. That's a quick turn from that being a great hire of a guy that needed a second chance.

All of a sudden now you hear the rumors that he's having some troubles off the field again and now he's going to be out of the building entirely potentially. Over the past decade, Scott McLuhan is on the short list of people you have in your draft room or at the combine in the months leading up to the draft because nobody's drafted better than Scott McLuhan. And Tony Kornheiser had a good line about this, about his absence at the combine. It's like the father of the bride not being at the wedding. That's how big Scott McLuhan is in the draft process. So what does that tell you?

It tells you what Greg said, that they're likely headed for a divorce. And I think the... No, but what's really going on behind the scenes for him to be not involved, have this ace in the hole and not have him at Indianapolis? Well, him and Bruce Allen, who, you know, is the guy who runs the team, essentially, is above McLuhan on the depth chart. They've been at odds that people believe Alan, you know, the Washington Post report.

He's overruled McGluen on a few things. They don't see eye to eye. They haven't let Mulgou and talk to the press since last spring, which is a long time. And it's just the Redskins of old. If you're a Redskins fan, you're thinking we'd finally kind of get this thing turned around. And now Deshaun Jackson's expected to leave. Pierre Gerson's expected to leave. We don't know about the future of Cousins.

And who knows? Well, that's the other thing going on with the timing of this. I was talking to Mark last week, and I said, if you're Kirk Cousins, why would you re-sign with the Redskins knowing that Jay Gruden might not be there? Why wouldn't you go to San Francisco where you know Kyle Shanahan is a six-year contract? So that gives some stability, but it also gives stability for free agents in the next couple of weeks. Do you want to go to Redskins if you don't know what Jay Gruden's future is going to be? Well, you just signed him to a contract.

You can always fire the guy, obviously, after a year. It's not like Dan Snyder couldn't deal with eating a contract. but the whole thing's a mess for a team that should be feeling good about themselves. I don't know. Won some games? Yeah, all right. Let's move on.

Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on. We'll talk about Brandon Cook's wide receiver of the Saints, maybe not for much longer. As everyone knows, he's been now floated as a trade asset for the Saints. And we heard reports late last week that the Patriots were turned away. they had a report that they had offered the 30-second overall pick for Cooks.

That didn't work out. Now there's rumors that the Titans are in the mix or perhaps the front rudder to land Brandon Cooks. I mean, what is Wes? What is Brandon Cooks worth to you? Is this guy worth a first-round pick in your opinion? Brandon Cooks is not a true number one receiver, in my opinion. He's a really good deep threat. He's good.

he's not going to beat double teams, I don't think. He makes his living beating slow cornerbacks because he runs a 4-25 or 4-3-40. So he beats guys like Sean Smith and has 200 yards against the Raiders, but he's not a number one receiver who's going to move the chains consistently, be a red zone weapon, and do all that.

You can't anchor your passing game around him, and he needs a new contract if you trade for him. So I would not give up a first-round pick myself for him. I would give up a second-round pick. Well, the Patriots report, which came from the New Orleans Times pick, and also said the Patriots were, you know, the Saints would be sending back a pick in that trade. So they were willing to give up number 32,

but we don't know what that pick going back was. It might have been just a third round pick. So then you're only moving up a round and a half. It sounds like the Titans, at least, according to one reporter, in first to try to get it. I mean, this is a guy who put up 1100 yards back-to-back years. It's a guy that Bill Belichick loved when they played against each other in the off season in terms of training camp.

If you're putting up 1,100 yards with Drew Brees and Sean Payton, you're not putting up 1100 yards with Carson Wentz. You're putting up about 800 yards with Carson Wentz. Got to look at the curve on that. Yeah, but as long as you don't think he's the number one, he's like the only guy, I think the interest in him around the league makes sense because he's going to be a good starter.

I mean, the thing that fascinates me the most about this is the little side action, a little social media. Talk about it. Talk about it. I like this. Well, some people think... It's weird that you kind of gave me like a weird... Well, I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it or not.

It got you sauce stuff. I mean this... So Michael Thomas, some people think there's, you know, maybe Brandon Cooks doesn't fit in there. You know, this isn't a secret. He wasn't happy last year. He complained about it publicly. Close mouths don't get fed. Right.

In terms of not getting the ball, there was some talk about him getting traded last year. And Mike Thomas, the Saints, you know, rookie receiver from a year ago, tweet it out over the weekend, the jealousy will cause people to part ways, huh? And then shh. And a lot of people read into that, including Brandon Cooks, who just, like, minutes later, literally, six minutes later,

tweets out, trigger fingers, turn to Twitter fingers. I'm not even sure what... What are these kids talking about? I love it. Mike Thomas then backs off as just like, no, I'm just quoting a rap line. Way for you guys to read into it. Yeah, you're quoting a rap line that...

Significant to you on some level. Exactly. That relates to your situation in life right now. Mike. You know, people... This is one of the big issues with Twitter is that people, they tweet things, and I think everyone has had their own issues

in this room at some point. You tweet something, then you don't quite factor in that everyone that follows you is going to actually see it so it might come back on you for whatever reason. Mikey wasn't thinking. Mikey might have had a couple drinks, He left it up there. What time was it?

I respect that. No, it's five in the afternoon. Hey, that's happy hour. That's my theory. I love, I don't know. I love it. And then it somehow turned in on Monday, and this is getting too deep, to Kenan Lewis, former Saints player doing some Facebook live where he just, where he buries Willie Sneed.

He was talking about it. I don't know. What's going on? I don't know what's going on. Guys, get it together. Speaking of wide receivers, the Jets. continued to tear it down. This happened after our show on Thursday.

Brandon Marshall was sent packing upon his request is what we're hearing. He is yet to be, as we know, in many NFL seasons. He's yet to even play a playoff game and the Jets aren't sniffing a playoff spot right now. Oh my God. We're having a fire sale. Yeah, the Jets, they're tearing it down. And Brandon Marshall, the latest evidence that it's happening. And Wes, I'll set you up.

up on this. Todd Bulls spoke to the media from Indianapolis, and some of the comments he had about the direction of the franchise got on your gridiron? Get off my gridiron, Todd Bulls, just bold face lying to his fan base. A three-year-old, or Steve Combs' four-year-old, as I said in the article, Todd Bulls should be borrowing this toddler. How can you sit there in front of people and say you're not rebuilding and reemphasizing several times we're trying to win when you're doing the exact opposite you are tearing your team down

it's going to be a painful grueling rebuilding project say you're scamming for sam as as dan would say sam darnold or fold for darnold whatever but you this you are not trying to win west what is he supposed to say i'm just going to play devil's advocate here what is the head coach look it's look we are rebuilding these are the this is life in the NFL we have to rebuild that that's That's how the NFL works under his salary cap. It's going to be a tough year to stay with us. We're building something you're going to be proud of in the future. Not we're trying to win in 2017 when you're obviously not trying to win.

Now, this is, I got you, I got sure you're coming from that. That feels like something if you want that message being sent to your fans, perhaps it's your GM or your owner. The coach is, I feel like that the R word is something they don't like to say. And here's where Todd Bowles is banged. And he's not going to say rebuilding because he's, He knows he's in a bad spot right now because they hired him and then tried to play a little patchwork and try to build a contender. And that, as we all know, it didn't work out. So now two years into his regime going into his third year, now they're starting a rebuild.

What are the chances Todd Bull survives this, even if they do it the right way, which knowing the Jets, there's a good chance, they probably won't. But if they really do tear this down and build slowly, what are the chances that he's around three years from now to see any of the fruits? he's all of a sudden in a terrible spot. The way he's handling this is not going to help keep him around. This is what weak franchises do. Do not piss on my back and tell me it's raining. Okay. One more counterpoint.

From the GM, I would, I hear you. But most of these moves are cutting bad players who shouldn't be on the team. Brandon Marshall would be really the one exception I can think of, where that's a move that you say you're not trying your best to win in 2017. Like, I've been cutting Dorel Revis and Nick Mangold has just a move smart teams do. It has nothing to do with rebuilding.

If you have somebody ready to play behind them, sure, but you're going out there with two fists of an offensive line and no secondary. Don't tell me you're trying to win. That's all I'm saying. Be honest with your fan base. Let's see what they do in free agency. I hope they don't.

I mean, if they spend aggressively and now they're well under the cap, then they really are trying to win this year. But I wouldn't want them to do that. you know it is what it is of course they're trying to win i mean the players on the team they're trying to rebuild they're trying to rebuild right but of course he's just they're going to do he's going to do his best to win games all right he's also not the one this is not true they're not trying to win on a scale of trying to win i just mean todd bulls i don't think he's that involved with any of the scale on a scale of priorities where is winning coming in this year it's very low

on the list of getting your salary cap right getting rid of your old players winning is not high on their list this year. I mean, it's just not. That's part of the process to build a winner. So why not explain that? Well, maybe he could have been more of it. But, all right, as a Jets fan, I didn't feel lied. I kind of know the rules of the game that coaches are going to talk a certain way

and just got to read through it. I do want to hear McCagnan. He is the key guy to me because I also don't think Todd Bowles is making these decisions at all. I'm not even saying he's making them, but you're the mouthpiece of the organization. You're the one who's talking to the fans. treat the fans like adults. Let's move on and talk about the San Francisco 49ers,

another team that's rebuilding, and they had made the decision to cut veteran wide receiver, Tori Smith. This coming from a new NFL networker insider on the scene, Steve Smith, Sr., he reported Monday citing sources. Steve all plugged in. Well, it's good to see that some of our NFL network insiders are breaking some news. Why?

Are you making some type of comment about myself? Well, yeah, not. I mean, Ian's... I mean, I'm around the NFL. I mean, Indiana, Inside, Inside, Inside, Dance, Hand, for the truth, go to the zoos. And it's funny to say it's been a minute since we got some more breaking news. You promised us another shoot-a-drop. I had something. I was waiting.

I actually had something this morning. Oh, my gosh. Speaking of Mike McCagnan, I had a source at the Indianapolis Airport sitting next to McCagnan and an associate at the hotel at the airport bar and mcagnin according to my source pulled out a club soda out of his backpack to drink at the bar while the associate ordered a drink from the bartender so there's some breaking news mcagnan saving money being cost effective at a time where that's exactly where the jets should be there you go you challenge me it's stretching that's almost as big as my david price eats at the airport, Indianapolis, Cadoba exclusive that I had on Friday. That's a pretty good one, too. It's a pretty good one, too.

So, Tori, excuse me, Tori Smith, who the 49ers signed to a saucy free agent deal a couple of years ago will be let go by the 49ers. This comes after Smith had signed a five-year, $40 million contract with $22 million in guarantees in 2015. The Niners saved close to $5 million in cap space by cutting Smith, and Greg, this was a player that in Baltimore wasn't exactly the most well-rounded wire receiver, but he did his job very well with Joe Flacco taking tops off, defenses, making plays.

We just never saw that in San Francisco for a variety of reasons. Yeah, number one being their offense got awful. He had 267 yards. I'd have to go kind of watch a little more closely why he's struck. that badly. He did lead the league in yards per catch just a year ago, 2015. So that doesn't sound like a guy who's lost all of his speed. He's 28 years old. Just turn 28. I mean, he's not, like you said, he's not well-rounded, but a lot of teams could use him.

We put him into our top 101, I think, right around number 40. You could see him returning to Baltimore in theory, but they have Mike Wallace, who they seem pretty happy with. Here's a tweet from Tori Smith that came out after the news. don't be surprised when I'm back on track next year. I wouldn't be surprised, Wes, would you? No, he's the right fit. He definitely needed greener pastures.

You have one of, Tori Smith is one of the least efficient catch percentage receivers in the league. Catching passes from two of the least efficient quarterbacks in the league in Colin Kaepernick and Blaine Gabbert. It was not a recipe for success. He was a bit of a one-dimensional deep threat. I remember there was one season maybe 2013, where they went to him early in the year and used him as a number one in Baltimore.

And he had a good month and then disappeared for the rest of the season. So I think the book on him is he's a bit like Mike Wallace, who they already have. Are Brandon Marshall and Tori Smith in the same general area on the scientist's top 101? I believe Brandon Marshall should be at least one tier, if not several tiers higher. Well, he's not really. He's 33 and we put Tori Smith, what, 41 or something? Of all the wide receivers available on the market, there is only one who's a number one receiver and it's Brandon Marshall. Alshan Jeffery's not.

He's not a number one receiver. If he's not a number one receiver, to me, Marshall is not at this stage of his career. Marshall has played that role before. If you'll remember, Alshan Jeffrey's best year was the year that Brandon Marshall was in Chicago, drawling double teams.

Brandon Marshall's, at this point, had so many surgeries and is 32 years old, about to be 33. And he looks slower last year. He wasn't the same player. I know he doesn't need to be the fastest guy, but to me he's the definition of a number two

possession quality receiver. But it's just, this Tori Smith moves adds depth to what, you know, something I wrote about on Friday for a piece of different like trends in this market. I mean, there's wide receivers. Any type of wide receiver you want, you can get it. I mean, you got Alshan and Terrell Pryor who are kind of the really high ceiling boomer bust. You know, you got deep threats now with Tori Smith, Deshaun Jackson, Kenny Stills. You got Brandon Marshall and Garsohn who are kind of like these veteran guys you can trust.

I mean, you've got kind of head cases on a second chance. They're not head cases, but guys who've had some trouble. Let's come down with that. Michael Floyd. Kendall Wright, you know, we'll throw into that mix. He said some. He's been a little up and down. You got a little bit of everything if you need a wide receiver.

Like your phone started ringing and you got flustered. Robocall. You made a, you made a repeated what you were saying just to get your equilibrium back there. I like that. I honestly just wanted to cover up the sound of. The phone ringing. Let's move on. More wide receiver talk.

Terrell Pryor was not hit with the franchise tag by the Browns, which makes you think there's a good chance, or at least, you know, let's say 50-50. Everything in life is kind of 50-50, but there's a good chance that Terrell Pryor is playing at another city other than Cleveland in 2017, and there is no shortages of suitors, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer that reports that five teams,

are interested in prior a group that includes the Steelers, the Giants, the 49ers, the Titans, and the Eagles. Not surprising, Wes, right? Not surprising that he's drawing interest? No, I fully expecting to draw interest. What's surprising is that he's making it to the market for a team that has $102 million in cap space. He gone. I mean, way more than 50-50, I would say basically of every free agent at this point. You know, we're taping this right before it.

If you can get to, if you get to this point, you're usually gone. Not 100%, but a guy like Pryor who Sashi Brown said, you know, he's a priority to keep, but we won't panic if he leaves. That was a little a sign that, and maybe a little bit of a red flag for Pryor, that a team that desperate for young talent is so willing that they don't think he's worth the money. It's a little surprising. Yeah. And there heard some whispers that maybe they were a little apprehensive about handing over a big guarantee deal,

which made even more sense to me that you would hit him with the franchise. Yeah, that's what I don't get. And get another year with him, get to know him a little bit more and then do more business. If you choose to do so, yeah, I wonder if that sends a message to any of the other teams and what we're not hearing that they're hearing, maybe he won't get as much money as we think because maybe there's some bad buzz. Certainly there are a lot of players that were given this guy, you know, throwing some sky shaper. a skyscraper shade at this guy all through the season. We don't know what's going out for a prior.

Maybe it will affect his market. Would you expect him to be, I would expect him to be a little bit more amenable to staying in Cleveland, considering Hugh Jackson is the one who turned his career around. Well, if they're getting beaten by significant amount of money, what's he going to do? I mean, if the Eagles want him more, for instance. He had a great game against the Eagles who kind of talked him up at various points.

The Titans seemed to be in the four. 49ers seem to be in all these receivers. People look at him and I think they think that could be a number one receiver. And maybe the Browns don't. I feel bad, though. He should be a Brown. Listen, if he go, we'll get, let's stick a pin in it because he's going to come up a little later in today's show. Let's move on to middling QB talk.

All right. All right. Last item of the news today. A lot of middling QBs. You know, some people could say mediocre QBs. Other people could say, you know, marginal Cubies. Other than say kind of crappy Cubies. I would call them Cubies who will get you fired.

Cubies that will get you fired. I'm just going middling because you're trying to be nice and respectful of these men. I mean, imagine if you were listening to a podcast reviewing other podcasts. And they were like, all right, let's get to the middling podcast host section. I don't think you would find that, you know, I don't think you would feel like that was a soft landing. No, but it's the price you pay for life in the public. guy. You know that better than anyone all your time in front of the camera on basic

cable. Ladies and gentlemen, it's NFL Network's Greg Rosenfall. Was that you shredding? That was my brother, Dean, on the guitar. Delaware. He used to love the Eddie Van Halen style. All right. Let's start with Mike Lennon, who continues to boggle the mind in terms of his value for

a lot of people. And there's a report out there from Yahoo that multiple NFL sources believe that Glennon could fetch as much as 15 million per year. This is Mike Glennon we're talking about here. Also a report that the Bucks had pushed hard to keep Mike Lennon in-house and they were willing to make him the highest paid backup quarterback in football, which would put him in the 8 million range. But obviously, if you're Mike Lennon, you have a chance to make double that or close to it, you're going to get out of town. Wes, we talked about it last week.

You wrote about the shifting quarterback market. Mike Glennon, 14 to 15 million a year. What's happening in this world? That's where the quarterback market's at. And as Greg has pointed out, that would be the lowest paid starting quarterback in the NFL, not on his rookie contract. so that's that's where it is my point would be why even get rid of j cutler if the best you can do is mike glennan you're just getting john fox fired i i don't see the mike glennon appeal

the buccaneers were the were they were in the same place two years ago as the bears are now and they decided mike lennon wasn't good enough so they were going to get james winston they're projecting i mean obviously they're they don't they see j cutler first of all he's just worn out as welcome, but they see him as a finished product. And there's no way, and I'd like to see how this deal shakes out before I kill it, or before we kill it in terms of the money. To me, it doesn't get me worked up that you're paying him 13 or 14 versus 10. It's basically, is he just going to be your starter or not? They're projecting. They're seeing a guy who only played 18 starts. I mean, we're like making final conclusions about a guy who's played 18 starts in his first two seasons.

You haven't seen him since. Jared Goss played 16 starts or whatever it is, 10 starts. I've seen this to be I've seen people project Brandon right and I've seen people project that Matt burger he has the same skill set as those guys the difference is I think if you're Ryan Pace who is in his division you saw him play maybe you know you've done your work on him he thinks that he saw more during that rookie and sophomore year than just projecting he thought he saw he thinks he sees a good quarterback he saw uh his two quarterbacks Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley move the offense better last year than than Mike Glennon did in Tampa Bay.

Speaking of the Chicago Bears, who are thought to be one of the favorites to land Glennon, they are also hedging their bets, I guess, and they got Brian Hoyer on the phone who is in-house, and they want him back. He's going to be a free agent. So they are in a situation, Greg, where it seems like the opening day starter, and, you know, who knows how this stuff plays out, but there's kind of a good chance that bears have either Hoyer or Glennon behind the center, and is that going to, is that get? Is that going to get you excited?

No, Ali Bon Puri downstairs is a resident Bears fan, not excited about the QB situation in Chicago right now. Well, it's not an exciting team. I mean, I, I, this team's in a terrible spot. I think Glennon's going to be their quarter. It really just sounds like Glennon. I don't even know if I totally buy that. That's the Jets pay for him.

At least your buddy, you know, Mnich Mehta, Dan, doesn't believe they're even really in on Glenn and that they're kind of being used, you know, to prop them up. He likes Tyrod to the Jets. which would be... Tyrod would probably be cheaper, right? No. Be in the range?

No. Really? You would not be cheaper. Oh. I mean, I think if he's a veteran out on the market, I think Tyrod would do... I think Tyrod would do... He would have to do more than Glenn. Yeah.

I mean, the weird thing is that 14 to 15... We'll see what he gets, by the way. I don't... It's like we're making this based off, like, agents throwing out numbers. Like, it might not be real. We should trust them, though, right? No? The bears are under more pressure than any team to get, I think,

to get this right this off season because otherwise Pace and Fox get fired. Right, but the only answer is go overpay for a quarterback who's good, not overpay for mediocrity. Overpay and draft picks for Garoplo or draft somebody at number three overall. You're just

spinning your wheels if you're going to get Mike Glennon. Another middling quarterback is Colt McCoy who's currently the backup with Washington and a good backup. That's the type of guy you like to have as a number two. But according to MMQB's Albert Breer, The Redskins, they think that if the decision is made internally,

let's move Kirk Cousins in a trade, let's say to San Francisco or wherever, that Colt McCoy could step in and handle this offense and steer the ship in an effective way. That doesn't sound true, Wes. I believe the exact quote was, we can still win with Colt McCoy, and my answer would be sure two or three games out of 16. Wow. Oh, come on.

Quote, five, baby. Well, McCoy is a tiny, tiny quarterback who gets hurt every time he plays and can't last. He doesn't have a strong enough arm, first of all. He's like Johnny Mansell without the drinking problem. You know, he looked. That's a sell. He looked much better than Johnny Manzell in 2014 when he had a chance to play. He's looked pretty good in the preseason.

I guess what that's done in Washington is make them believe that really there's not much difference between him and cousins, that they, that, that Gruden is, that this system is built for these types of quarterbacks and that it's not a huge difference. He had 8.3 yards per attempt for Washington. I don't, I'm with you. I think this is, I don't know if ludicrous is the right word, but I think they're trying to sell something that maybe they don't even believe. All these organizations trying to sell bad quarterbacks are bad organizations.

And finally, Chase Daniel, he finishes the quadrant of middlers. He is currently the highest paid backup in football, $7 million with Eagles. He is on the market, or at least is drawing trade interest, according to a report from RAP sheet last week, and New Jersey Advanced Media says the Jets are interested. That, to me, from the Jets standpoint, is a much more sensible fit. If you bring him in at $7 million as your starter, you're saving money, you're not going nuts on a $15 million per year, Mike Lennon deal,

and you're doing work in other phases to try to get your franchise competitive again. I'll hold the fort guy if there was one. Right. But Glennon, I think, you know, we can argue. We don't need to argue about Mike Glenn. I think you could see an upside with him that you wouldn't necessarily see with Daniel.

I think Daniel could be a fine starter, but this is a red flag to me. This is the Eagles saying, whoops, why did we give this guy all this money? I mean, that's the only reason this is out there. Just the fact this is out there tells me, We want to cut Chase Daniel, most likely, if we didn't give him guaranteed money. He is making guaranteed money $5 million this year.

And he was a pain in the ass after they played Carson Wentz over him. And they were like, why are we dealing with this with Chase Daniel? All right. There you go. That's what's happening in the news. Let's now move right into it on the line right now. He did. He posted on Twitter what looked like a hidden camera shot with move the sticks.

to me it seems like Lance Zerline are you there Lance yeah I'm here guys how you doing you know how you doing buddy and good thanks again for joining us on the around the NFL podcast it seems to me and I'm sorry by the way that we didn't get a chance to get dinner together

in Houston no dude that was that was part of the I had to get in with that's part of the thing I had to get in with them you know what I mean I had to sell them that I was on team Daniel I had that I had the camera set up the whole time underneath my winter coat because I have to

winter coat when it's 50 people have to check out your Twitter account to know what we're talking about let's zero right on Twitter yes yeah well basically my Twitter account is at Lance Zerline Z-E-R-L-E-I-N nicely I was on a podcast with you guys previously this this past week and I mentioned that Daniel had some you know I knew there were some issues he told me that books on tape is a nice alternative to me listening to your podcast and and so I decided to record him just to see if I could get it on tape, and luckily I was able to get it on tape with him taking shots, calling you, I don't know, the devil in a wave thing, something like that.

Literally called me the devil. He likes Mark, though. That was a takeaway. He was a very kind with Greg Rosenthal, who I tried to stick up for you, Greg, but he basically just said you patted yourself on the back all the time. And he disregarded Wes, who's also in the studio with us right now, altogether. I took it as he was keeping my name off his lips. I mean, I would consider it a good thing.

He said Sessler's like, he's an all right guy or something like that, which in the context of what he had to say, I think that was a big check mark. Sometimes I wonder if Sessler could be covertly a mole for Jeremiah, the way Jeremiah speaks positively of Sessler. I can tell you this, it felt, it felt strange. It did feel strange. All right. We can agree on that. Definitely strange. Lance Airline, who was just all over NFL net.

network. He is one of our top draft analysts. I'm going to say it. He's the best draft analyst in the building. Oh, man. That's amazing. You know what I'm saying? And it's not just that I'm mowing out for you and trying to, you know, get you the dirt on DJ either. No, not at all. Not at all. Right. So, yeah, you could read, he has his mock drafts out and his writings on NFL.com. You see him on TV. He's also on the radio in Houston. But so we wanted to catch up with you now on the other side of the combine, Lance. And I guess where do we want to start? start because one place we just brought up move the sticks he was bowled over by this defensive back class if you're a team if you're a needy team in terms of the secondary are you

pinching yourself after what you watched over the last few days yeah i think so it's it's unique in the sense that it's it's not only is it athletic and fast but there's incredible size and linked in this draft class and that's a i don't know if it's a direct response to the size that's in the league. I just think it happens to be a bunch of big guys. It used to be big players. If you were big and athletic, you went to a wide receiver in high school. That's what it used to be. And I think more and more teams are saying, you know what, let's take big and athletic and let's start working on that on the defensive side because these seven-on-sevents have created these mega offenses in high school. And of course, it's leaked into the college world, clearly. And so I think that's one

of the things, I don't think it has anything to do with the NFL and big, big wide receivers in the NFL. I think it's a correlation of what's happened in high schools. And then subsequently colleges, and I think, I think the pros are going to benefit because there are a ton of six foot two corners, relatively speaking, like six to eight in the combine. And I'd say three, four seven ran really fast today, too. Just highly unusual to see guys who are over six to running sub four five it's just you just don't see it much so i think there's going to be a lot of excitement how many get drafted in the first round you know okay so right just just cornerbacks in general sure okay i would say there could be i would say there could be as many as

four and there could be as many as four safeties so eight db's possible to go out of the first 32 picks. That would be rather wild. And I look at my team, Lance, and your latest mock draft, which you can find in NFL.com, you have Leonard Fournett, the LSU running back, going to the Jets at 6. But I would not be surprised at all if they went and got one of these DBs. A team like the Jets, and they're not, they're far from alone that really want to beef up the back into their defense. No, and I think you're right.

In Sidney Jones, you know, if Sydney, it depends on what your taste is, I kind of had a feeling, I haven't had T's table or any, either of my, I think I had him in my first mock draft. I don't think I had him in my second one. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, maybe I've got him in there, but I don't think I put him in version two. And that's because I was anticipating him running kind of a slower 40 based on some things scouts were telling me. I do think, though, Kevin King, for example, really helped himself, and he's going to move into the second round now. Fabian Moreau from UCLA is going to move into the second round now. And you look at the Jets, and if Lattimore is off the board, too, then that could be a landing spot for Kevin.

Kevin King, I'm not Kevin King, but rather, Sidney Jones at number six to the Jets. So, yeah, I would, Dan, I would agree with you that that could definitely be a spot for corner because here's the thing. You can say, well, it's a deep secondary draft. There's a ton of cornerbacks and safeties, and we can just wait. Now, I don't think that's going to be the case at all. I think there's going to be a run on defensive backs, and it's going to push all of the good ones into the first three rounds.

Do you think the quarterbacks change their order at all in this week? Of the four quarterbacks thought to possibly be first-round picks, you think one helped themselves and any of them hurt themselves, at least compared to the other this week? You know, it's so hard to say because it depends on who you talk to. Everyone kind of saw the workouts differently, it seems like. I don't think there's a big change personally. Now, we're also assuming that there was a standard idea of who one through four is, and I don't think that's the case at all.

I think that was all over the place, as it were. So, you know, I think what you're talking about right now is, did any of the teams kind of change their number two and number three and shift them around? To be honest, I still think Ms. Trebisky is going to be the first quarterback off the board. Mitchell. And I think John Watson is going to be the second one. What's that? He wants to be called Mitchell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's like how Jeremiah likes to go by Daniel, and it's like, hey, bro, I'm a Daniel too, but I keep it real. I am who I am. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's, and that's why I roll with you guys. But, yeah, it's Mitchell Trebisky. I think Mitchell goes first.

It's a little bit of a red flag to throw that out there the day before the combine to add the Mitchell. That's a red flag? I'm just saying, if that's what's on your mind right when you show up to the combine, I don't know. That's the type of draft analyst. analysis you get from the Around the NFL podcast. Yeah, feels like a,

and he said it's because his mom wanted him to go by Mitchell. And I'm thinking, well, you know, are you going to be coachable now or is mom going to tell you what kind of like that? Interesting. I can't think of anything less relevant to playing quarterback in the NFL than combine drills. After this weekend,

do you think any of these quarterbacks is going in the first three picks to one of the teams that desperately needs a quarterback? No. Okay. No, and, you know, I have been the last two mock drafts, but after watching all these guys on display back to back to back, do you take the quarterback in the top ten with all this defensive talent?

I mean, good luck. Good luck. Even when you talk about O.J. Howard, who's going to be kind of a special tied-in. It's just, man, you're really gambling on quarterbacks if you take them that high. What is the ceiling of John Ross, you know, the receiver by now, everyone listening probably knows he set the record with the 4-2-240, and I don't know a lot about John Ross, but the things I

like hearing about him was it wasn't just, usually the fastest guys, the guys who make big names as the fastest guy in the combine, are not particularly exciting players. They're kind of just track one-speed guys, but he sounds like he is a legitimate

prospect and receiver before he did any of this. Yeah, he was. He's a real guy. I mean, he's a guy like Will Fuller and that he can beat you deep. Well, first of all, he has better hands of Will Fuller. But the second thing is, when you have guys who are that fast, it puts cornerbacks on their heels so quickly that the underneath stuff is just wide, wide open. That's a big benefit. He can get a six-yard hitch anytime, you know, a six-yard goal stop route anytime he wants it. Because

unless teams start to press cover him, and that is something he's going to have to deal with on the next level because Alabama bothered him a little bit in the playoffs with some press coverage, but he is a real wide receiver who can give you problems. He's a little bit slight, and he does have some medical issues in his background, which he's going to have to have surgery right now. As a matter of fact, he's decided to have it after running his 4-2-2. But it's similar to Deshaun Jackson. It really is. You know he's not going to be a high volume guy from a fantasy standpoint, if you're wondering, but he is going to be somebody who's probably going to go for about 19 plus yards per catch. Well, who fell way too far in the

draft. Sean Jackson was a swing in the miss by GMs. Well, and you know what? I mean, if you are, when you have this guy on your team, like once again, from a fantasy standpoint, when he goes off, you are just going to bury somebody. But when he's on your regular Dan Hansis, New York Jets, that's my favorite team, football team, I think there could be some frustration because I do think that he's going to be kind of a hit or miss week-to-week feast or famine type of player based on how teams are probably

are we going to use them? All right. One more. Wes, go ahead. We've mentioned fun guys at every position so far. John Ross, Fournette, O.J. Howard. What are the chances that Christian McCaffrey is the most fun player to watch on offense in this entire draft class?

You know, there's a chance. I got to tell you something. I watched him in college. A lot of college football fans did. You knew what you were getting. He was a little banged up this year. He wasn't really the same player statistically. And then you watch him in these drills, and he just killed him.

it. And I know this is where cue the people who just say, Underwear Olympics, blah, blah, blah. That's me. But, yeah, but you know what? When you start comparing him to other running backs and you say, look at his change in direction. Look at the way, look how quick he is.

Look at how he catches the football. These are real things that happen on a football field. You know, how quickly you can change directions when somebody's diving in at your legs. How quickly you can avoid a penetration into the backfield and continue your run on. How you get out of the backfield and catch the ball. This is real world football stuff, and we're able to see him next to Dalvin Cook and next to, you know, some comparable size speed type guys.

And I thought he really, really helped himself a lot. And I didn't see him as a first round back before, and I'm not sure I would take him in the first round, but I think he has got a great shot of going on in the first round now. Lance Zerline, you could follow him at Lance Zerline. Again, it's Z-I-E-R-L-E-I-N. And you could tweet them, asking about life, football, love, even the dearth of established rock bands in the city of Houston. You know, you guys ought to do this. On my radio show, I have something called the Info Line,

where people call in with just whatever questions they need answered. Because you guys would be great at it. Like, what's the best way to cook a medium rare steak? If four people get to a four-way stop at the same time, what should I do? Just things like that. And I feel like you guys would knock that out of the part. So if we started doing that and gave it the same name, that wouldn't get on your radar if we just ripped off your bit, hardcore? No, you can, no, you can fully do it.

People in Houston, because they got tired of talking about Brock, they called one full hour with questions. I'm not even lying. One full hour where they would rather hear questions and answers like that than talk about Brock Oswald. I don't know how you survived this season, talking about Brock Oswald for four hours a day. Well, we got a little, at least we had like one week where we got to talk about Tom Savage. That was the only thing that... He's real! Top Savage is real.

All right, Lance. On that note, can't top that. There you go, Lance Zeeland. Check him out. And also, follow along with his mock drafts and all his coverage of the draft. This is Z-time. Thank you, Len.

Sea time a year. Bye, thanks, guys. We'll see you. All right. A friend of the show, Lance, and especially the chips are down now in the draft analyst war. And we have Lance as an alley.

least it seems that way you always got to keep your peepers open Greg but it seems like lance is an ally of the around the NFL podcast this is where you know it'd be fun if the podcast was recorded because I would love everyone at home to see Dan literally prying his eyes wide open and holding them open while he's saying to keep those peepers wide all right do we need fake do we need allies in a fake war I mean you think it's fake but you got to read again just like with Oh, don't lie to me, Todd Bowles. No, no, no. A little closer, Wes.

All right. All right. Now we got Lance off the phone. Now's the time. We have to get one of the great heroes of the round of the NFL podcast on the phone. Because with our sandwich props, go get my lunch, you human monster. We are going to make predictions for the free agency period. The legal tampering period begins.

in less than 24 hours. And with Mark not here, we were improvising a little bit. Number one, we're going to have Mark. We reached out to him. He was able to get out of his deathbed and put together a list of some of his own sandwich props. And also, we said, who else can we get involved with this? So we picked up the bat foam, and we called up a man that resides in a haunted mansion in New Jersey. I think you know exactly who we're talking about.

Are you kidding me? It's Connor Orr. A man's man got a mortgage. Drinks the brown stuff and ranks up his foliage. An ex-P, man, 10, mine not state ballet. Listen to Sydney with the backing blocks. Mar-on. Got Super Bowl snub, so it's Connor Orlando today.

He got Super Bowl snub, so it's Connor Orlando today. Well, that, who are you kidding me? What a catchy tune. It's even better now because it just eats away at Greg's Insight. Well, what a relief to get through our mandated two bits where Dan sings per show. It's out of the way. Sydney, did I demand that you play that today? I don't like taking sides.

Oh, my goodness. That's a yes. That's a yes. Wait a second. What I asked for was this. Hey, Conner, you there? Sorry, Connor. Some internal squabbling.

I'm sorry that the kids have to see it sometimes, you know? Yeah, you got to talk shop, though. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. It feels weird not doing this in Indianapolis, the happiest place on Earth. I had the last interaction I had with Connor was very sad, in fact, because Connor and I had a date planned for the last night or the last morning, we were going to go to one of the,

because Connor knows all the breakfast joints and all the lunch joints and all the dinner joints and all the cigar joints in Indianapolis. We're going to go to, what was the name of the place? Cafe Patachew. Yeah, a cafe Padicea, yeah. And I got this text at 7.13 a.m. Danny, this is disappointing, but I got a bail. Body is rebelling in a serious way.

Tried to make it work, but it's not happening. Why was your body rebelling? Yeah, well, are you okay? A lot of illness around the NFL Pikes. Oh, everything's fine. I just drank for like three nights in a row. And then everything was just like stop eating and doing everything like that. Just stop it for one day.

So I had to listen. Right, you had, and I don't know if we could always edit this out of the show, But when we went to St. Elmo, the famed steakhouse in Indianapolis, our last night together, you revealed that during a candid conversation with your doctor, he suggested if you were going to continue to drink as much as you do to maybe move over to the wine. It's supposed to the brown stuff. He just said, you know, antioxidants might be good for you at this stage in your life. There you go.

All right, Connor. So this is a big stage for you on the podcast because never before have you been involved. with a full round of sandwich props which if you're new to listening to the show you should know that before a free agency we all make predictions

about... This is the fourth annual. The fourth annual. We're still in that golden era where we make predictions and then each of us has the opportunity to challenge that person say no, no, no, no, no.

That's wrong. In fact, I will put a sandwich on it, a high octane sandwich. uh in fact that you are wrong and then it's all kept and all tracked by the great nick fortier of go get my lunch dot org yes thank you uh so we're going to go around the horn and la sid you are serving as the conduit to mr sessler is that correct i am he's giving me very specific instruction so we are of one line wow i am channeling the spirit of sessler all right good for you and good luck i should say um all right so the foot we'll start

we're going to start with two that is you know communal okay we always have some communal props and we'll start with this one last year what was it last year what where will blank land who was the big name last year is anybody remember two years ago was in domicant i think we did arian foster last year we did that's exactly so this year we're going to stay in the running back zone and here is the first prop and whoever gets a it right gets sandwiches from everyone else so this is a big score if you can get it uh if you're the only one to say the the the team but where does adrian peterson land and let's start with connor or a simple answer connor where do you see peterson landing i see him heading for warmer

waters uh down in tampa bay to uh to boy the uh the hospital run by james so it looks like a paranormal going on at the Haunted Mansion. Are you still there, Connor? I'm here. I'm ready to go, baby. Okay, so you're saying he's going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Wes, what do you got? I have the Oakland Raiders.

Ah, very good. I also have the Oakland Raiders. And I thought I was going to get you on that, West, because they were only kind of in the middle of your landing spots piece. I have adjusted my thinking since then. Wow. Yes, I thought, and we talked about this on the podcast last week, that it all kind of lined up with the Raiders philosophy on veterans

and Peterson looking for that one last spot where he could be the star on the contender. He loves their offensive line, too. The Raiders make a lot of sense. And what about you, Greg? I really thought I was going to get the bucks, but I don't like going on another. I don't like, I don't want to split any sandwich is. So I'm going to go with the Vikings, just staying home. That was my other one.

I mean, yeah, it would be no, you know, Connor got there first, credit to him. I wouldn't call that an onion hanger, but it's probably sound. Yeah. Walla Walla is a big onion. Giant sweet Spanish onions are good. And a red zeppelin is a big red onion. It's all true, old man.

All right, the next one. Wait, we need Mark's answer. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. Conduett? Yeah. Mark's spirit of Sessler says staying in Minnesota. Okay.

Ooh, so you got locked in either way, Greg. Sorry, buddy. Came back at me in a big spot. So now you're almost, yeah, you probably would have rather gone with Tampa Bay.

It's all right. Peek behind the curtain. Mark texted me and said Raiders. Wow. Hold on the fence, what does that even mean? That's on the Fed Cessler. He told Cindy, Minnesota.

Well, peek behind this curtain, Spirit of Sessler did not know that it would have to answer these two questions on this plot. So that was straight out of my brain. Oh. Oh, so you were improbable.

Whoa, the conduits gone wild. I think we should make a ruling. He did tell me the Raiders, so I think we should go with the Raiders. You got to go right. Yeah, and also, Sid, that's a bit of a la Raville. Wow. You know, I adore you, Sidney. I was just trying to keep the train rolling smoothly.

I appreciate it. If this comes up again, just be like, okay, he didn't have anything else. If this comes up in your year-end review with your boss, I do you like that you just gave yourself a lover reveal. I mean, she had to drop it on her. Hey, she's a pro. Next up, this is the next communal question. Who gets the most guaranteed money in free agency?

And, you know, and we talked about this downstairs. Oh, is it guaranteed? Fully guaranteed. Fully guaranteed. Mostly guaranteed. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, just guaranteed. That kind of leaves a little.

Nobody knows what it means. danger, so whatever is the general viewpoint. Guarantees, we'll say. No, good luck figuring it out, but we'll cross that bridge. The way it's reported. Anyway, Connor, who do you believe gets the most guaranteed money? Feisty, Texan's Corner, A.J. Boyer. The most guaranteed money.

I mean, I think he's going to get a huge payday, but the most guaranteed money, I'd be surprised. There's not a logical candidate here. I mean, Connor's been out on Bouillet Corner. For a while. It's been writing about him. I really struggled with this one this year. And I landed in the same place as Connor Oar. I've got A.J. Boo-Yeh.

Look at you guys. It feels good to be on Team West. Oh, yeah. I feel right. Is it the first time? It might be. I was always very scared of West having a dissenting opinion of mine. So this feels fantastic.

I feel the same way about you, Connor. This is a great teamwork. A total love fest. There might be new kissing cousins on the around the NFL podcast. get well soon, Mark Sessler. I will go with, and I'm not sure, I'll probably be wrong in this, but I went with the logic that

if it's a Patriot, a team wants to be associated with Patriots greatness, you want a game change, a guy that can make plays, game changing plays, in fact. Donta High Tower is my choice. I think he will get paid huge money to become the centerpiece

of some team's defense, whether he's worth that as another discussion, but I throw High Tower out there. He'll get paid in a big way. Wow. It could happen. It shows how bad this. Crapping all over you, right?

I don't feel strongly about it. No, I honestly think it could. It shows how crazy this class is. There's no logical answer. Kevin Zitler is an option. Mike, I threw this out to Ian. Are you doing this thing where you mentioned like seven names? No, no, no. I threw this out to Ian.

This is when Greg and Mitzi cheats by getting Ian. No, no, no, well, I'm not taking his advice. I don't like his answer. He thought Mike Glennon, which seems insane, which seems wild. Guarantees? But he said, it sounds like no one is fully getting just like a crazy deal. So I'm going to go, I'm kind of biting off my other one. But let's go Stefan Gilmore as number one.

So I say Gilmore gets more than Bouillet. He's number one. New money. Do we have one for Mark for this? No, Mark passes on this one. No, I have an answer for Mark on this one. You're not allowed to pass. I have an answer for Mark.

He texted me. Okay. Jimmy Garablo after a sign and trade gets the most guaranteed money. Okay. Do we count that? He's not a free agent. I don't know. You guys decide.

Mark has a lot of things you have to go right for Mark to collect on this. I say we let him do it. It doesn't really work because then you could say Kirk Cousins too, which you could get an even bigger one. But because he's putting himself out there, I mean, this is an onion hanger, ultimately. He needs a few things to happen to be right. If you want big onions, you've got to get big onion plant.

Sure. Because not only does he need that trade to happen, he needs, for instance, you know, Kirk Cousins not to happen. He's got to place a deadline on it. Tony Romo, ooh, I didn't even think about it. It's got to be by the, like, the end of March Groplo has to be traded, right? Ooh, Tony Romo would have been. Good sneaky answer.

No, no, Alshon Jeffrey answer. I know, that was. I only stayed away because I thought you guys. All right, let's move on now, and we'll go around now with our individual propositions. And, again, let's start with Connor or. Now, do you want all three of mine, or do I go one by one by one? One by one. One by one.

All right, my first one is that Mike Glennon will not go to a team. Okay, go ahead. Classic. Mike Glennon will not go to a team. where he's entrenched as the day one starter. Okay, so it's similar to last year. We had a similar prop that RG3 would not sign with the team that had an established starter.

So you believe he will go to a team where he has a real opportunity to start or will be acknowledged. He's competing. He's not a true starter. At that, he will be competing. Yeah, right. At some point, the coach will come out and say Mike Lennon has to compete for the starting job.

Correct. but it has to be not a trick like it can't be Mike Lennon versus I don't know David fails or whatever and they're like well it's an open competition everyone's going to earn it like if it's Glennon or Hoyer okay I'll take you up on that I will take you up on that so just to be clear so

all right say it one more time just one more time so Mike Lennon will go to a team where at best he has to compete for the starting job so there will be someone of equal footing or better to the place where he goes. Connor and I remain sympathetico on all things.

I am not taking him up on this one. Yeah, I agree that's probably how it plays out. I don't imagine. Yeah. Really? Yeah. A lot of people would be very wrong about this Bears thing then. Well, they could draft somebody at number three overall still,

or in the second round, and then he'd have to compete with the rookie. it's only now that I'm realizing that Mark's in a tough spot because the way that you make sandwiches and stay in the plus category is you take people up on props but if he's not there to take anybody up I have a very very detailed list of what he will and will not take okay all right so he takes this one he takes this one under way I'm just out of curiosity how does it

are you just making this up too or no what does it say like what do you read reading that lets you know that he would take this. All right. You ready for this? Yeah. You can vote yes for me every time by proxy. I will accept every bet going all in no matter what the bet is.

I take them up on it. So those are my very specific instructions. Are you going to go with your gut instinct on anything? It sounds like she just has to say yes every time. I tried going with my gut instinct the first time. So Mark, so we know, Mark will take up a sandwich prop on every single. It'll probably work out for him. Let's face it.

That might inform my thinking. Okay. We couldn't manipulate the situation potentially. All right. Wes, you're up. The Saints do not get a standalone first round pick for Brandon Cooks. In other words, they would have to give something back in the trade if they're getting a first round pick or they get a second round or lower. So it won't be like a one-for-one swap.

It won't be Brandon Cooks for, say, the Titans number 18 pick. well the reports are out that they already turned down a one-for-one swap that involved the 32nd pick it was not one for one oh it wasn't they would be sending one back i think all the reports are are kind of picks for picks so yeah i'm not taking that that seems that seems certainly less than 50% chance than that would happen well i can restate it his his value will not be a first-round pick it will be less than a first round pick no matter what else is sent back there won't be a first round pick involved no i'm saying it won't be at the standard of a first round pick it will be less than that which means if cook goes then something from the saints is going back to the other team

right which yeah so if they if someone sent a first to this so for cooks and a fifth you know you would lose the wager so it'd be kind of crazy to take your wager right if someone says a first and a fifth to the Saints, then you win. I'm not going to take it. What about you, Connor? At the risk of disrupting my newfound relationship with Chris Wesleying, I also will not take it. Wow.

Oh, well, that just means we're in agreement. Yeah. West knows how to play the game and just throw out, you know, lily-livered ones. Yeah, and then you clean up. That is an anti-union hanger there. Wait, I am not lily-livered in this game. That is an outrageous.

All right. Let's move on now. Wait, does Mark take it? Oh, Mark takes everything. Mark will take it, yes. All right. Real one in. This is fun.

Here's mine. I'm going to... I got Tony Romo going to the Broncos. I'll give you the field. Wow. I'll take the field. All right. Wes, got reeled them in for one.

Thanks. Wes? Who else? Connor, what do you think? Give me the Broncos, baby. All right. So that means you don't take the wager. You're with me.

He's going to the Broncos. Well, this puts me in a tough spot. You know, I'm not a religious guy. Like, I'm not, I don't believe in that many things. For the theology, part. But I believe in taking the field just as a principle when I'm going through life. Take the field, get past the emotion. So even though I think the Broncos are the most likely.

one i'll take you up on that yeah smart obviously i'm not throwing it out there unless i feel very strongly about roman of the broncos but both in other realms of props we don't bet around here and this show with sandwiches feels it's good the field it has been very plentiful bountiful a lot of harvest in the field how say you mark mark will take it Okay, Greg, you're up. Well, this is kind of, I don't know if it's complicated, but the Bears will spend the most money in free agency. So you guys can have the field,

and the Bears will be this year's version of the Giants and spend the most amount of money. I'm taking the field. That's an onion hanger. That is an onion. I'm not saving them because I don't know what else I'm doing. we um what was that by the way that chew that was the pickle that was the pickle is it time wait is that the pickle that is the pickle but the banana oh the banana excuse me behind the curtain

you know what i think it's time to punish the misophonies out there at some point in the show right why do you want to punish them know i will let you know listeners that it's coming at some point in the next 15 to 20 minutes what is the me so funny i think you know for new listeners go back and listen to the show i'm time to get into it you're disturbed by sound where are we where where were we

i got thrown up by the pickle bear spend the most money for agency yeah it's a good one i wonder if um because we kind of all whiffed on tony romo most guaranteed money i'm going to take you on that the field has been good to us plentiful great harvest

um and i'm going to even taking a step farther in my brain and say the team that signs Romo and gives them all that money. It's going to make some other additions. And away we go. So Dan's taking it. I'm taking it. Connor?

Give me the field, baby. I'm taking it. Surprise, Greg. That you went with a after we just talked about how you love the field. Sid? Mark takes it. Got to make it interesting. All right. We all take it. That was good. I like that one. That was a good onion.

All right. Next up, Connor, your next prop. how exciting Daryl Rivas will sign a multi-year contract in free agency Oh wow That's an onion hanger as well I would say

That's excellent Now for people that don't Hang on Mark has sandwich props Oh okay we'll get Mark next We'll just want to remind you Thank you I'm sorry Dorel Rivas has that $6 million figure tied to the Jets

which means he does not have he will make at least $6 million in the NFL this year if he so chooses because the Jets owe him that much but if he signs a multi-year deal that would probably make sense that he would get more than $6 million guaranteed but is anyone going to give him a multi-year deal I have him going home to Pittsburgh or signing again with the Patriots those are my guesses and I am once again a complete lockstep with the great Connor It's official.

We got new kissing cousins. I think it's going to be one of those deals like he signed with the Patriots where it could be that second year is just voidable. We're counting that. We're counting the phony second year. How it's announced. The miso phony second year? If it's a two-year deal, it's a two-year deal.

Okay. That's why it's a clever one. I guess it's not the slam dunk I thought it was. I'm going to say, Greg, you've spent the last three weeks. I'm on the corner that he's going to not play because no teams will want him, so I'm taking Connor up. I believe Dorel Rieves' career is not over. But you know what?

I think he's going to probably sign a one-year deal. A prove-it deal is going to be his market. And he's a very smart, savvy businessman. He might think to himself, I'm going all in this off-season. I'm signing a one-year deal. And then when I restake my claim as a strong corner in this league, I get another multi-year deal next year. Oh, is he going to work out this off-season?

Yes, he's going to be serious about football. So I do not take you up on it because I think he'll be back in the league, but only on a one-year deal. Wait, you do take him up. He said multi-year deal. I don't think he signs a multi-year deal. Yes. Oh, yeah.

You know this game confuses me. So Greg and Dan are in. Mark. Mark takes it. All right. I love this version of Mark. Mark, I love him. He's so decisive.

Is this our new podcast? Sidney just speaking for Mark. He's so decisive now. I love it. All right. Now, let's hear Mark's, Mark's first prop. Okay. This is a big one.

There will be no free agency period in 2017. Oh, God. I'm just kidding. That's not really it. But that was written there as a joke, so I thought it was funny. New money flying tonight. This is the real one.

Terrell Pryor has played his last game for the Cleveland Browns, who will be lambasted by our podcast crew for losing a multi-team bidding war for the freaky wide receiver they could have just franchised. Well, we just talked about that. I'm in complete agreement.

Once he gets to this point, he's gone. So I don't think there's much chance they're going to keep him. I'm not taking him up on that. Yeah, I think he's played his last game at the Browns. And the Browns will be a lambasted on this podcast if it happens. Wes? I am going to go against the grain and say the Browns have a lot of money. He's invested in Hugh Jackson.

He's going to end up back in Cleveland. Okay. That's certainly fair. And I'm invested in West. Yes. for the brown hey just so you know connor west i believe is in third place all time in the standings so i'm due it's well yeah i'm just letting him know maybe he's not familiar with the history of the game i was in first place for the first few years of this game well it's you know

times have changed west i just want connor to know all right don't try to go on field don't try to come between me and connor i know i think for timing reasons we only have time for one more each by the way okay oh so choose wisely here onion hanger all right west let it rip my onion hanger calais campbell will sign with the denver broncos i hope maybe uh you try these onions you'll like them the real sweet onions i love that because i yeah there was a report mike cliss so it doesn't come out of nowhere you know interested in campbell it'd be tough to maybe get Tony Romo and Campbell. It's kind of like a plan.

It's tricky that the timing of Tony Romo makes the whole Romo sweepstakes complicated because he could take a while and teams got to do what they're going to do. I will take you up on that, but I don't feel great about it. Can't you see? That would just be a Broncos type of move. Wouldn't surprise me if Wes gets me on this one, but I'll take you. He will not sign with the Broncos because I think they will. I mean, there's a reason they had to let go Malik Jackson last year.

they had money tied up. And if they give Romo a big deal, which I really am pounding the table if that's going to happen, they won't have enough money for Clayas. Connor? I'm taking the field as well. So your love affair with Wes only goes so far.

Unrequited. Perhaps coincidentally, immediately after I let you know what the standings were. I honestly still don't know how 90% of this works. I'm just going, I'm touching go. Either to the listeners, it's good. Or the host. And how about Mark Sessler?

Mark Sessler takes it. He's in a great spot here. He really is because he's either going to do better than ever, and it's just a great story. Or it's like there's no responsibility. You know, it's like, oh, it didn't work out, but it was fun. It was a great idea. Right.

Do you think he's really not sick? Just figured out this is the best way to play the game? Ooh. Save Sessler. All right. Now, Mark made a, this makes it easy for me. I have three. I'll eliminate my Trell prior because I had, and it was a little onion-y because I had him signing a multi-year deal with an AFC North team other than the Browns.

Wow, that is onion. I kind of can see him go into the Steelers or Ravens, but I'll move off that. And this one's a little more simple, and it's not that exciting, but it's onion-y because you almost always lose this prop, almost always. I have Brandon Marshall staying in New York and going to the Giants as a free agent he doesn't want to leave New York he loves the market

he has a job in New York with a HBO or showtime it's a fit for the Giants he wants to be playing with an established quarterback and get to the playoffs and the Giants make a lot of sense for Brandon Marshall Marshall of the Giants nobody else who's got me I'll take that he's watching

watch the Eli Manning play. Oh, stop. That's not going to stop him. In the Super Bowl two times, Chris. This is a guy who talked about Ryan Fitzpatrick like he was Joe Namath. I mean, Eli looked great to him. That's a tough one. What do you say, Connor?

I think the current edition of Joe Namath could throw further than Eli did in 2016. Yeah, Brandon Marshall's not going to the Giants. Wow. Do you have any former beat writer pop there that you've heard from people in the know? No, my head space is completely empty right now. This is straight from the hip. Straight from the hip. Straight from the hip is my favorite, Connor.

That should be your album title. I think the logic is there. I really don't think he's going to want to leave. But can they really, he would have to take a big pick up on that and say he goes elsewhere. I think he'll take the haircut because this guy is desperate to play a playoff game. It's an embarrassment for him, I think. that he's never been in the playoffs. Not that the Giants are a lock, but yeah.

And it's good for his TV career, but maybe he could go to Baltimore and still make that move. Yeah, he's not used to picking up scraps in an offense. Sterling Shepard and O'Dell Beckham already there. And New England, he's been tied to New England a little bit. I've heard some report. And I got some tweets like, oh, how about this? I don't care.

This is not like Brandon Marshall and I had a love affair. But I don't think that would be the good fit for him. I think the Giants make a lot of sense. We'll see what happens. All right, Greg. I already did my onion hanger. It's okay. Well, I'm going to go back to something because I know I can reel you guys in,

and I believe it. This was on my list. Stefan Gilmore gets more than A.J. Bouyei. Guaranteed money. Just straight up, cornerback on cornerback. Why are you doing this? It's redundant. Yeah.

Well, I was surprised. I didn't have an answer for the guaranteed money thing, so I just threw them in there. I don't like this. It's got a bad energy around it. Bad mojo? Yeah, it's got, why are you double-dipping on Stefan Gilmore? It was on my list. It's on my little list.

Wes is upset with you. Yeah, this is your last. I promise you, I have no. You're going out like this. He's playing the game. He's going out on extraneous? Extraneous. How is it extraneous?

Because you've already said it. All right. You know, we talked about this last week that Gilmore was a prime guy to potentially get overpaid because of the name brand value. And yes, I think he'll get more guaranteed money than AJ. I guess I'm partly just not buying into that Bouillet is going to get top of end and money. If I could do it again, maybe I would have thrown in Jeffrey for the first answer just to not step on this particular one, West.

But who cares? So I agree with you. You said Gilmore more than. Yes. I'll take you on that one since I already said Bouillet once. Okay. How about Connor? Boo-ya, boo-ya, I'm taking it.

Nice, like it. How about Mark Sessler? Mark Sessler is going to take it. It would have been really funny if we just went around the room three times with the safest ones ever. Mark takes it. It's like the Browns will continue to play in Cleveland. Mark takes it. All right.

And finally, we'll end it with Sydney, the final sandwich prop. Mark Sessler via satellite, the satellite is Sydney. In a flurry of high-octang trade action, at least three 2017 first-round picks will change hands between the start of free agency and the draft. Before the draft starts. So this one will not be decided until late April. Can you run that by us again?

Because we're going to do like a recap before that. Sure thing. Does he have something else? Does he have another question? That's more immediate? He does, but... Is it not? It's a little similar.

Do you want to hear the other one? Should we? Just is it something that we'll know by next week or something? Possibly. What do you guys want to do? You just want to roll this one? Let's hear it. All right, what else you got?

Okay. The following players will change teams, but stay in their current divisions. All right, I like this one better. All of them? All of them. There's three of them. I'll take it. Terrell Pryor, Kevin Zaitler, Zitler.

Zaitler? Zaitler. Zaitler. And Donta High Tower. All three. All three will change teams, but say... That's an onion. That's an onion. Buried the lead there, Sid.

Prior to Zitler High Tower. This one was his onion hanger. Oh, so it actually is the one he probably would have gone with next. The one that I read first. In capital letters, says onion hanger. Oh, okay. I was just, you know, following orders. Yeah, this one is more suitable for how we play the game, though.

All right. Let's roll with it. I'll take it. I mean, it's pretty straightforward to me. It's very hard to get one player right where their division lands. You're asking for three players to change teams, but stay in their division. It's virtually impossible to get this right. So I'll take it.

I am taking it. With gusto. With gusto. Yeah, I'm taking this. Connor? I agree with Mark. Let's do it, baby. Well, that actually you did your buddy a solid because that saves Mark a loss in the standing.

Connor, you have a very big idea how the game works, but you were a great trooper, and we loved having you on our latest edition of Go Get My Lunch! you something or other and and why not just for you misophonies out there oh don't you cross me i mean that was over the line yeah i mean uh i don't think you need to have misophonia to consider that distasteful and it's not enjoyable and if you come at me again I said, what do you get next? DefConn Orange. DefCon Orange.

You don't want it. So what literally one person tweets at me upset about the banana? We go DefConnor Orange next week. All right. I'm glad we sound about. Connor, thank you. No problem, fellas. Take it easy.

Love that guy. Love Connor or. We'll see how Connor does in his first. voyage of go get my lunch and that that does a supersized edition of the around the NFL podcast wraps up we are back like we said and we promise we're back on Wednesday three shows this week and three shows for the foreseeable future put it that way so get excited little different taping schedule though this week that's right that very good we'll be doing a show Wednesday we will tape a show Friday morning and get it up there Friday, midday Pacific time or a little bit after.

So we're going to make sure we get as much knowledge of how free agency shakes out. As we said, it starts officially 4 p.m. Eastern on Thursday. So we'll make sure our Friday show will be up to the minute in terms of covering everything it happens on Thursday. That's how we roll. Be a fun week. Let's roll. Big week.

Out of here. This is Dan Hansa, signing off for the mailman, the boss, the sizzler, and absentia. Connor Orr and, of course, Lance Zierling. Until Wednesday. This is an I-Heart podcast.