NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Free Agency Top 101 Breakdown

Episode Date: February 26, 2018

A room filled with heroes- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling & Marc Sessler- assemble in-studio before heading out to the NFL Combine for the rest of the week. The heroes dive in to the latest news, including Blake Bortles’ hefty extension (5:00), details on the Marcus Peters trade (12:00) and more players being released. They all head down into the lab to break down Wess and Gregg’s 101 Top Free Agents piece (19:00), as they debate who’s too high- who’s too low- and who’s just right.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast should probably take more HR classes. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What's up? Boys. Hey, Dan.

Oh, yeah. Happy Monday, everybody. Have a nice weekend. I did. I think that we We should fill all parameters that a human resources department would ask and demand in glowing terms. That was a very like 96 FM start to a morning show. Start by like 7 a.m. like, hey guys, like how's the weekend? Sometimes I feel like it's my destiny. In like 20 years I'll be on some like Z morning zoo.

Making a nice paycheck but hating myself privately. We hung out yesterday. We did. We did. That was nice. Dan and I, pronouns. Mark and I took the respective families to a little brunch. So four boys, ages what? Mine are three and one. Yours are.

Five and seven. Five and seven. Full gamut. We actually walked by, we all met up outside the restaurant, and we walk by one of those things where people are just giving away their stuff on the lawn, just like take it, it says. Very L.A. type giveaway. Yeah, and no joke. Greg, there was a toolbox there.

And I said to Mark, let's get this and give it to Greg on the show on Monday. And then we were in agreement, good idea. On the way back, let's grab it. Came back, it was gone. Well, and our kids were very... Greg famously has never had a toolbox. Never had a toolbox. And that got on the radar of all the children that could verbalize.

I don't know. I didn't go pick up that toolbox. Well, maybe, you know, like, who is, like, why does this Greg person not have a toolbox? And it was hard to explain to kids. the dynamics there. There was a conversation that lasted all the way into the restaurant they could not wrap their head around.

Even Luke was like, I use a hammer. It's like, okay, well, there's, you know, there's a lot happening here. This is a big show, guys. Greg still doesn't have a toolbox, but we have a really good show for you today because it is time every year. The scientists, they go down to the lab

and they come up bloodied and bruised. egos hurt sometimes shattered but they mend their fences at the end and they produce a top 101 free agents of the offseason 2018 edition so it's live on NFL.com right now

go check it out does it have a vanity URL it has to Greg top 101 free agents there you go NFL.com slash top 101 free agents and today's show the guts of today's show will be breaking down West and Greg's top 101. How did it go this year, by the way,

between you guys? Because it does get sometimes a little bit combative. Where were you guys this year compared to other years? Well, there's only like eight players worth grading. So the next 92 were more like coin flip territory. We were cool. It's still ongoing. You know, guys are getting cut today

and we're adding them to the list. We're coming up with some new players. And so... Big debates on. whether Pernell McPhee or Charles Johnson should be on the list. So it's a never-ending process. Do you have any... It does end, by the way.

When free agency starts, we stop adding players. But while good players, and there's going to be many of them over the next couple weeks, get added to the mix, why not out? Do you have any issues with the editorial department that is frothing to get this thing out there? But it's at a time where so much news is churning. Players are getting released at it. You almost have to write the column twice, because so many players get released over the next couple weeks

that you're, you know, when does the work ever end? That's just life in the big city. Yeah. It's the big leagues, Mark. I just heard them complaining about it behind the scene, so I thought I'd bring it up. This is of the USFL. This is the National Football League. People want that list.

A lot of excitement in the building. A lot of pop today. A lot of pop in the building. So we'll get to that. But before we break down the top 101, we have some news to get to. And Lindsay Fault, hey, Lindsay, Are you a millionaire? I do have some news on that, but we're going to save it for the next show because I'm working some things out.

It sounds like she's a millionaire. Whoa. Well, it sounds like almost certainly that our producer is a millionaire. I think it's going to come in under a millionaire, but I think it's going to be sick. Or she discovered she's quietly in a mountain of debt. Because if she's multi-millionaire, she wouldn't be here. I'm not here right now. Those who are in every show listeners, every show listeners might not.

know that Lindsay recently unearthed a large Bitcoin collection of some kind. I'm not too familiar with what's going on with the Bitcoin industry, but I know it's a story right now. One thing I've learned in my 44 years on this planet is that you do not need a financial advisor if you do not have money. So she's got to have some money coming. All right. Let's do some money.

Mommy, I've got a drug problem. Blake, boy. Blake Bortals, and by the way, that's just one of the many drops that can be found on go get my lunch.org, Nick Fortierrez, fine, fine homage to the Around the NFL podcast. Here we go. Blake Bortles got an extension. Rapsheet report. Rapsheet, by the way, who's going to be on our show in Indianapolis. We're going to be at the Combine or we're all leaving tomorrow. We'll do two shows from Indy and then come on back to Cali. but Rap Sheet's going to be on Wednesday show. Anyway, Jacksonville assigned quarterback Blake Bortles to a three-year contract. The team announced Rapsheet reported their deal is worth $54 million, including $26.5 million and guaranteed money. The new deal replaces Bortle's current contract.

It had one year remaining on it. That one year, of course, was the fifth year option of his rookie deal. Now, a lot of people getting all fired up, Wes. How can Blake Bortles get an extension? He stinks. The Jaguars should have been going after Kirk Cousins and jumping through their Super Bowl window. So now people think that they're doubling down on Blake Bortles,

but maybe that's not quite the case here, is it? This seems like more of salary cap management than a huge commitment to the quarterback to me. When I look at this, it's about freeing up money for this year. And then at the penalty of, I believe, it's $7 million to cut him if he doesn't work out next year. And even that $7 million it was reported this week. has offset language in it.

So, for instance, if Bordoles has a pretty poor season and the Jaguars cut him and some other team pays him $3 million to be their backup next year, that's $3 million less than they'd have to pay. It's much to do about nothing. I think they mismanaged giving him the fifth year extension or option a year ago at this time because when he got hurt, that locked him into 2018 in terms of being their quarterback. And I do wonder if they didn't have that option. whether they would at least have poked around with Case Keenham or Bradford or who knows,

just looked around the quarterback. Yeah, because he's expected to be ready for OTAs, but the injury was an issue. I don't think it stops them on any level for planning for the future. If they found a quarterback in the draft that they wanted to either maneuver their way up for or someone that fell to them, I don't think it prevents anything in terms of future planning. How often do you give someone you view as a franchise quarterback a three-year extension? Well, but I get what you're saying, but I think they did mess this up because they locked themselves in with Bordles. And I think a lot of people agree.

I certainly feel this, that Bortals is not the short or long-term answer for Jacksonville. And they should have been all in on Kirk Cousins. And that made so much sense, I thought, for both sides. And basically what they did, they punted on a Cousins pursuit. So I think they have lost here, but there's no reason to get nuts about the extension itself. But aren't they pivoting off the mistake they made pre? It's just pivoting off the fifth-year option mistake. I don't know if this compound.

But just the whole thing I don't think was handled well is my opinion on it. If I'm another AFC contender, Super Bowl contender, I'm happy about this. Yes, it's great. And you could look at it more like, why would Bortles do this deal? If anything, it's a face-saving thing by the Jaguars, hey, you wanted a better deal. You're our franchise quarterback. That is a tricky position. I mean, ultimately, is their starting quarterback, and you have to support him.

publicly, but if you look at what he got out of the deal, it's an extra half million or a million dollars this year, and that's about it. If for some reason he keeps getting better, he's actually underpaid. Like he got very... Definitely not a franchise quarterback contract. Right. He really got very little out of this, very little in terms of guarantees, or in terms of a great contract. If for some reason he did get way better, there really wasn't much of... All these contract, quarterback contracts that have already happened and are going to continue would happen from Kirk Cousins on down. This is a total outlier.

And they cut ivory and this contract lowers their cap. What West said initially that it was a cap maneuver. They took a lot off the cap for this season so that they can go spend some more money in free agency. Here's another quarterback who is possibly not getting paid big money from his current team. Case Keenan, she doesn't have a current team. He's going to be a free agent. And there was, you know, people wondered would the Vikings use their franchise tag?

on Keenham, who came off last year's amazing, I don't know, amazing strong, but very strong season behind center for the Vikings. But Minnesota will not use the franchise tag, according to Rapsheet per sources with knowledge of the team's thinking. Mark Sessler, your thoughts on Minnesota's move. I think in the last, I mean, we're going to keep getting new waves of information about Kirk Cousins

and where he might go. And I thought, you know, a week ago, the Jets went there. we're just going to throw money at you seemed like they might be the lead dog if you could convince Kirk Cousins to care about the Jets in that way. But it sounds to me like the Vikings are absolutely making a genuine

preparing for a genuine push here. Gilbrand tweeted today. He said, if I were a betting man, I'd say that that's where he lands. It's certainly interesting on both sides. All I would say is that Gil Brandt, one of his closest friends, is Bill Parcells.

And one of the closest friends that Bill Parcells has is Mike Zimmer. There is a avenue of information there where Gilbrant could know what the Vikings are thinking. And there's no buzz around Sam Bradford. There's no buzz around Teddy Bridgewater with the Vikings right now. They could bring Teddy Bridgewater back and still pursue someone else. But I think that Kirk Cousins, if he, the Vikings, we talked about this week,

that's your attractive landing spot with Jacksonville out of the mix. I like this avenue of information that our cartographer, Mark Sessler, just laid out here from old Parcells to Brant. Well, they all know each of them. He knows Zimmer too. Six degrees of Gil Brandt. There's a question whether Teddy Bridgewater, at least pro football talk, raised the question, whether he's even going to be a free agent.

That's not even 100% settled. What, the tolling? Their general manager has discussed that. Yeah. But that's, and I've, to be fair, we've sort of forgotten about it on some level because we're listing him as a free agent because that's where he's listing. You didn't forget it? No, no.

We didn't forget about it. We had discussions about it in the lab. Yeah, a little private me and West conversations downstairs. We'll get more into Keenham a little bit later in the show. I guarantee you. Moving on, Marcus Peters trade from the Chiefs to the Rams that went down late last week or isn't official. It's official once a new league year kicks in, but it's happening.

It's a done deal. Anyway, no one knew what the Chiefs got back in exchange for the number one cornerback. You expected it to be something steep and saucy. Not so much. The Rams send back a second and a fourth round pick. and the Rams, I believe, sent back to KC, a sixth round pick to get the deal done. So, Greg, the Rams land themselves a premier cornerback, and they didn't even have to give up a first round pick to get it done.

No, and I saw this, you know, draft pick hall that they got, and I thought, oh, that sounds about right? I see a lot of reaction that the Rams really snookered the Chiefs and what a great deal. And it may prove to be. We talked about how much we liked Peters's fit. But in terms of just knowing that the chiefs were fairly dead set on tradium, there's a report out there that they were trying to for the last three weeks. This sounds about what I would expect that they could get for Marcus Peters.

He's not exactly a clean prospect if he was a NFL draft pick. You know, as talented as he is, I think it's telling that the two men who drafted him who were there when he was drafted in Kansas City, Chris Ballard and John Dorsey, who are now running teams, didn't even investigate. They didn't want to trade for him at all. And I think the rest of the league knows that. Right, because when it came out, it talked about the 49ers and the Browns also pursuing him. But that's come out later that the Browns absolutely did not pursue him.

So the 49ers were maybe the other team out there that got out drafted or out essentially the Rams like outbid them. So no other team in the NFL would have given up a second and a fourth to get Marcus people. The court was that they tried to trade him for three weeks, and this was the best offer they got. Surprising, to me. Except the only thing is that, I mean, who knows what's going on behind the scenes? I mean, what we've seen overtly during that Jets game was a bit of an issue. And it's like, maybe it's just a lot to ask in a trade to bring him on to your roster.

It wasn't the first thing to come up between Marcus Peters and his coaches and the organization not being thrilled with him. That happened on and off, I would say, for three seasons. When I look at this deal, it's a task that you're not. that the Alex Smith, Marcus Peters, Justin Houston, Eric Berry, Tomba Ali, Nucleus of the past half decade maxed out early last October when they were 5 and O. And they were never going to get any better than that. And I think when you're trading for Peters, you're also understanding you probably are looking at paying him huge money or else the deal doesn't make sense.

And that lowers his value. With all this said, I think it was a great move for the Rams that they get Marcus Peters essentially for two years and $10 million onto that team. I still like the move. Moving on, the Carolina Panthers created some cap room, cutting veterans Charles Johnson and Kurt Coleman. Johnson has been there forever, drafted in 2007 out of Georgia.

And Mark, anything from these deals or these moves that surprises you or something that was expected? It seemed like this was something people talked about happening. I mean, Charles Johnson, may be done with football at this point, and he barely played last year. Yeah, and it's like with Coleman, he's about to turn 30. I think it's like this, like we just saw the chiefs, maybe they're moving on from some of the key players they've had.

I don't know Coleman, I would call him a key player, but they're getting younger at safety. Yeah, two players in clear decline. Coleman was a pro-bull caliber player in 2015, played through some injuries in 2016, and was kind of a liability last year. Both players were liabilities last year. Nice run for Charles John.

in 11 years in one place. Overcame a lot, too. Got a huge contract right after the lockout. I think that you're right, Wes. I bet that's probably it for Charles Johnson. And finally, some more roster housekeeping, The Bears, released Pernell McPhee and Quentin Demps. Together, the move creates over $10 million in cap space,

over $7 million connected to McPhee. McPhee signed a five-year deal worth almost $39 million in 2015, but cannot stay on the field so they decided to move forward. Bears are going to spend a lot of money. I looked at these two moves which both happened on Monday, not as connected, but as two teams that could be competing

for receivers in free agency. I think the Panthers are going to be looking at receivers. Maybe Sammy Watkins. I think the bears are going to be looking for receivers. All right. That's what's happening in the news. Okay. Nice little appetizer.

Some wings. For the boys, Mark, we got you some hummus. Hummus or maybe some spinach dip. That's fine. Wait, so Mark's not included in the boys? What is he? No, you're the boys, but in terms of the appetizers. Oh, the intro was inclusive of all, and then you dug down to what the menu items were.

Maybe subconsciously the wings is like, yeah, the boys. Yeah, like the guys sit around eating meat. Yeah, and there's a vegetarian boy. Maybe that's what was coming from. I think that's sort of where I came from. Ultimately, what I was. trying to do is be inclusive. But then my subconscious ratted me out.

That's what happened there. You tried. Your conscience tried. Your subconscious revealed you to be a snake. To be a villain. Anyway, so that was the appetizer. Now the main course. Oh, yeah.

The free agency top 1001. Countdown, baby. Well, it's kind of a count up, actually. Because you guys, we don't, you know, trying to get too cute with this. You start at one. You take it all the way to 101 and good job with the branding for the second straight year. It is 101 after that disaster in 2016, the top 99.

I think it's been 101 every year except for that one regrettable 99 year. So it's never even been 100. Either been 99 or 101. It's kind of like in like the 80s when Coca-Cola went to New Coke for that brief time. They tried. And it was a total. Boondoggle. It was a PR collapse.

Chastened. And they scrambled back and said, no, no, no. This is Coca-Cola classic now, baby. We're back, baby. It's like when your boys, you two, made the album that just automatically downloaded onto your phone. Oh, that annoyed me. I couldn't get that thing off my phone for 19 months. And I finally had to deep search how to do it.

That was also, you could call that a major PR boondoggle. U2's Songs of Innocence album. Not their best work either, so a little double banging there upon society. Anyway, now, the top 101 NFL free agents of 2018 Wes and Greg,

we're going to go down to the lab mark. Do you want to come? I'll join. All right. I mean, for some of it. Yeah. Yeah, as Wes has said, I actually have access downstairs now.

But I don't like to do that. I'm kind of like the every man I like to just hang out to the kitchen. The boys will go down to the lab. And maybe I'll join you. And, and, but since this is a special occasion, special occasion, the spinach dip's going to come downstairs too. So let's, let's, let's go downstairs. Let's go. There we go.

Everybody, watch your step. Bring out the gimp. Here we are. It's a little haunted. Wait, has there always been a haunted? Where's the hunchback? We might have a, a ghost situation, but don't worry about that. Here we are in the lab, and it's time to go through it all.

Let's start, let's get it going. How do we want to break this down? How do we want to talk about this, Greg? This is the type of stuff maybe you talk about before the show, but this case we're going to do it in real time, pull back the curtain, open the kimono. Top 101, Greg. Why don't we just start at the top? I mean, start with the big names, which somewhat we've talked about on this show.

But our top five is Cousins, Breeze, Levyon Bell, DeMarcus Lawrence, and Ziggy Ansah. One thing that stands out to me, having been through the process, Alan Robinson ended up, I believe, at number five, ahead of Ziggy Ansah initially, and that really upset Chris Wesley. I mean, he was. How upset? Well, it didn't make any sense to me that a pass rusher in his prime averaging 13 sacks in his last two healthy seasons

was behind a wide receiver who's not only coming off an ACL injury but is given a free pass for an absolutely horrendous 2016 season. He struggled. I think Ansa's and I think in the end he's going to get franchise tag. Both of these guys might not even make it

to the free agent market. Onsa's kind of underwhelmed over the last few years as a guy who's loaded up with a couple big games against some really poor tackle. He had nine of his sacks in three games. And a guy you watch week after week and you think good run stopper, not a huge difference maker,

and he's a little older than you would think coming off of his first contract because he was old entering the league. But he's still a solid pickup if you get him. There's no pass rushers out there. I mean, assuming none of these guys through Alan Robinson get to market. Well, Cousins is getting there. Well, beyond cousins. What we're left with at number seven is our top free agent is an ominous.

Sheldon entry. Well, Cousins is a free agent, though. I know, but with Cousins, we already dug so deep into the Cousins' narrative that it's like, here's the rest of the guys. You are taking shots at the top 101 right now. I don't understand. Not their work. I think it's a good top 20 this year.

I think there's some solid names here. Because Cousins is legit. He's a legit number one. That makes it. If you took Cousins out of this, if he, like, then what are you left? This is the weakest top 20 we've seen. More problematic. I don't know. We had Jaris Bird ranked number one one year. We've got Teddy Bridgewater.

in the top 20. We did. We do. And I do think Drew Breeze is the forgotten man in this entire scenario. When I hear that he's going to accept between 20 and 25 million to re-sign in New Orleans, I just don't buy it. I don't see why he would take such a low deal. And I do think there's a decent chance he gets to free agents. But it's not just insiders who have changed their tune. It's Drew Breeze himself, who has commented and it said, I don't want the drama this time around. I just want to go for a Super Bowl. That felt wrapped up to me. Do you feel like that we could be a combine in a couple days

and there could be some sort of insane rumor that creeps out? If Drew Breeze is really dead set on helping out the Saints essentially, that's what it'll take. But he's a guy who's been with the NFLPA. He's a guy who's always, it's so undervalued for him to be making that sort of money that I think it's just complicated. You're right. He's probably not going to go to another team.

It's that old question because you can't ever say, oh, he's made enough money. But Drew Brees probably has made enough money. But I mean, you can't get after the guy if he says, I want to max out because I know I probably don't have another. Right. And I don't need to hear about helping out the rest of the team when you look at the money that Mickey Loomis and Tonbent and the rest of this franchise has spent over the last X amount of years.

Almost all of it has been poorly spent. And Drew Brees is by far the most important player in franchise history. It's just tricky because he's aging. And yes, he's not going to apparently hold them over a barrel. I mean, it says in your write-up that he's a lead-pipe lock to re-sign with the Saints.

You know, we each write... That would be my right. Okay. But it sounds a little violent, but I like the energy around it. It's fair. That's some old-age gambling parliands. Lead-pipe lock?

Yeah. I had to look that up in the Greg jargon index. Greg uses it like four times a day. I feel like lead pipe... Is lead pipe lock really an old jargon? I think it is. I feel like I've heard that. It feels like something for someone that is, you know,

trying to be on the lamb from gambling debts. That's when the lead pipe. Sometimes I'll be at the commissary with Greg. Like, oh, yeah, I'm a lead pipe lock for the grilled chicken sandwich today. It's like, Greg, stop using gambling parlance at the office. It's illegal. Moving on. You know who I think?

All right, so you have Sheldon Richardson at 7. Mark, you were getting at that. If you, after Cousins, if Sheldon Richardson is the next truly likely guy to be really out there, I think it's come up on the show a little surprising maybe he's a top 10 guy but maybe that's the market I think he's a guy who has the potential

at least to be a big time difference maker and at the very least he's helping out your team as a starter I mean when we look past him let's say in the top 10 you're looking at a guy in Sammy Watkins

who's coming off a very underwhelming year has always been a little more hyped up than he has been productive a guard in Andrew Norwell who's certainly played well but not a superstar. And Kyle Fuller, who in two of his, you know, four NFL seasons has been a net negative

and has been really good and interesting in the other two. So none of the, to make it to free agency, it's almost like you have to have something a little off with you. We had so many players in these, and there were a lot of guys Wes and I disagreed on, but they all had similar stories, which were they showed some potential and looked like great players at some point, but something's gone seriously wrong in between. and it's whether it's injuries for the most part or it's poor production or some sort of off the field red flag like something's gone wrong for most of these guys for them to get well norwell's a good guy to bring up because first of all in this era i don't know what's what if it's indicative of a bigger situation but every year it seems now we hear with the draft class there's not a lot of elite offensive lineman prospects and then there's not a lot of guys that hit the market that don't have major red flags or age or injury concerns or whatever norwell would be a guy who think is going to get paid huge money

because it's such getting talent and young talent as it's such a premium right now. And in the case, and I'm looking at your write-up here, this could have been a situation of the Panthers just salary-wise, tying up too much money already with their line. I think I want some Andrew Norwell. Give me him. I think if he was a tackle, he'd be getting that Matt Khalil money.

I still wonder what the market is for guards. Kevin Zaitler got paid last year, but I think he was regarded as a better talent than Andrew Norwell. Norwell is a guy who shows the influence that pro football focus has had. Now, when we're raiding guards, what the hell do we know for the most part? We're basing it off of what we hear and what we read and what coaches say. Norwell got a second team all pro. Speak for yourself, but continue.

Norwell got second team all pro almost exclusively off of his great PFF grade, I think is fair to say. I don't think the 50 associated press voters like Bob Costis were necessarily breaking down the Norwell. Bob Cajas is an AP voting. He used to be. That was such a... Why did that have to have it? A zigzag into a banging of Custis. I'm just saying the AP...

Norwell's a guy who the Panthers basically chose Trey Turner was going to get their long-term money probably at Guard last year. And I wish that we had... Mark and I wrote that Free Agent Fitz article. I should have put Norwell on the Giants because the Giants have Dave Gettelman there who was there with Norwell

and plenty of money to spend in a big-time need. I put Norwell somewhere. I forgot where, but, you know, as we head into draft season, Andrew Norwell, first line, undrafted out of Ohio State. Give me a break with the draft. I am. So now we've been the Associated Press voting and the draft. I think he'll get paid a lot because there's just been, there's been a lot of sub-pro bowl guards

that have been paid about $8, $9 million a year when they get to free agency the last few years, and Norval seems to be at least at or maybe even above that level. You're 11 to 15. 11 to 16. I would go 11 to 16. Super saucy. Super saucy. We'll start with Keenham, who you have at 11 here.

And I think this is interesting. I actually looked up your, oh, that disastrous top 99 list from 2016, just to see, because there is that connective tissue between Case Keenham and now Ryan Fitzpatrick coming off his one big year with the Jets. You had fits at 23. You have Keenham at 11, which makes sense because Keenum seems to have a higher ceiling. He's younger, but at the same time, a lot of question marks still. Number 11 on this list.

And Fitzpatrick certainly didn't live up to that ranking. Did not. Got one year 12 million from the Jets. Keenham will get a multi-year deal, right? Yeah, I would think so. And Keenham is the guy who played like a top 12 quarterback last year, but he's also the guy who got benched for Jared Gough the year before and was terrible. He was also the guy who the Texans dumped, the Rams dumped twice, and then re-signed him.

He's all of those guys. So you have to evaluate all that. He's a guy like a lot of quarterbacks in this league who is almost wholly dependent on his surrounding talent and coaching. And when we talk about each of these players, whoever's here has something wrong with him, it's more of his history predating this past season. Because if that were your own loan sample size, people would be chased after him. But I think people are still spooked by the idea of giving him a more than a one-year deal or a two-year deal. Well, as I said before the show, 2017 is just as gone as 2014.

None of these seasons mean anything next year. He's someone, I think, that's always been probably a little better if you look back than his reputation, even with the Texans, for instance, that if you compare into the other quarterbacks that played in almost each one of his spots, he generally played better than those other quarterbacks. So you're right, it's kind of about the situation, brought him down, but he can be a good player, obviously, in the right system. I mean, he was a free agent last year. He wasn't even on our list a year ago, and he didn't get signed for a month, and it's because he doesn't have a huge. huge arm. I don't think he has like the anticipation that you normally like to see. I don't think people think of

him as necessarily he's not viewed as a durable guy either. He's not viewed as like he's Tom Brady on the field like breaking I mean no one's Tom Brady on the field but like that he's necessary he's an instinctive player not necessarily reading the entire defense and

winning before the snap. It's just telling to me too when a team like Minnesota if they could if you knew you could get Case Keenum to do the same thing next season that he did this past season, you wouldn't have a problem having that happen again, and there seems to be very little interest in bringing it back. You love Kyle Fuller, I want to point out before. We got out of the top 10. Chris Wesleying really is into Kyle Fuller.

Yes. Big Fuller. You got a full-on, you know what? Yeah, like you said he's... You know what? What do you mean? I don't know. Just the love for Kyle Fuller.

Well, like you said, he's had two really good seasons, and he's had two seasons that were affected by injury when he's been healthy. And this was one of the philosophical disagreements. Greg and I have, if I see a guy play well when he's healthy, I'm willing to take a chance on that upside versus a guy who's just average at his best, but he's durable and you can rely on him. I want the guy with the upside. Yeah, I think, I mean, I do too. We just disagreed on who has upside and who doesn't. Fuller's had, he's had a season where he's been healthy and he's lost his confidence and he's struggled. But I still had him in my top 20. I think

there's very few young cornerbacks that you know could start and can help your team. and that's why I had him as a top 20 guy. You like the rest of this saucy top. I will take a little bit of exception. Fuller, we just talked about him, two good years, two questionable years. Malcolm Butler, okay, maybe he wasn't that great this year, but two very good years before that, entering his age 28th season. At number 12, I feel like he's a top 10 fantasy guy.

How did he fall out of the top 10? Well, I've talked about this many times. Malcolm Butler, the Patriots told us what they thought of him. And I'm not talking about the Super Bowl. I'm talking about the fact that he was never used on number one guys. That he was, they would play Logan Ryan in a safety over the top against prototypical number one receivers. And then as soon as Stefan Gilmore got there, they would play Gilmore on prototypical number one receivers. Certainly depended on the matchup.

I mean, he famously would be the guy who goes against Antonio Brown. Right. It's a smaller, quicker guy. Smaller number one. But nobody's putting Malcolm Butler on Holyo Jones. No. But that's, I mean, that's true. Okay.

So he's not like a first. team all pro lock every year but he's not a number one corner it's going to make a fortune i think i think the way that he played in 2015 2016 he i don't know if there are more than five or six number one corners by that definition i think he was a top 10 to 12 cornerback where he was a big time difference maker if you use them the right way and you match them up with the right people and i don't know if there's more than five or six cornerbacks who are like beyond that where you're just like that's the guy. I think we can name more than five or six

off the top of our heads. You're talking about guys like Darius Slay, Casey Hayward, Patrick Peterson, Richard Sherman. Also, all some of the highest paid guys in league. I think Butler will get paid, though. He will be somebody that somebody will value, maybe pay as the number one even if he isn't quite that.

He is someone that will get, I think, knocked a little bit for his, like the guy, when you don't get drafted high, I think it keeps hurting you throughout the process. Because so many teams hold on to how they felt and they're just like, this guy's not really that talented. We saw him as an undrafted guy. The Patriots helped make him look better.

And I think it'll knock them. Like, for instance, the next guy, I believe on the list, is Trumane Johnson, right? And I think Trimane Johnson, if I had to put a sandwich on it, will get more money than Malcolm Butler. I mean, also, I don't know if coaches should care at all, but the most notorious benching that we've seen in the last like five years, Super Bowl Sunday,

Malcolm Butler, does that not affect how people... I mean, I've joked about it, but I'm kind of serious, too. Like, the Patriots did him absolutely no favor. Not at all. So not only does he have that undrafted stink on him, if you want to call it that, he also has this, like, character concern of, on some level, coming off a

Super Bowl benching could affect this market. It's fair. You have Teddy Bridgewater and Sam Bradford, back-to-back 15 and 16. I guess, how do you guys do this? I know, Wes, we just talked about it on the last show, you think that Teddy Bridgewater is a massive question mark and no assumption should be made.

Greg, you believe he is the next Joe Montana. So how did you figure this out? None of this is true. You just average out the two rankings. Greg had Teddy Bridgewater number one. You had him like 30. 31st. I was surprised to hear how down West was, and I get that he's pointing out his

inconsistencies, but I was heartened to see that West clearly saw some upside in Bridgewater because you still had him as a top 20 player. Wes had him 20th, I had him 9th on my list. Is that a commentary on this list? Yeah, I told you there's only eight players this year in free agency. Because 20 to me shows, at least you think he would think he has a chance to help you as a starter at some point. Because otherwise, why would he be that? Best case scenario, he has a chance to be that guy.

Now, I think there's very little chance we're going to ever see best case scenario with Teddy Bridgwick. Quarterback definitely gets a little bit of a bump because of the position. because of their scarcity. They should. I mean, he's a boom-abust scenario. For me, though, we could do this for the next 500 years, and you will never again have a scenario where three quarterbacks from the same team

rank top 16 in this exercise. That is one of the most peculiar. Sandwiched around two defensive backs from the Rams. It is one of the most peculiar scenarios of any free agent class ever. If you're measuring that it has to be the two defensive backs... I don't care about the two. Forget that part.

That is really useful. unique. That's, it's just, I find it so strange. It is, it is bizarre, and it shows how valuable quarterbacks are. Because Sam Bradford, in theory, it has a huge red flag, and Bridgewater has huge red flags, but because they play quarterback and because they've been pretty solid fairly recently, it's like they're worth taking a chance on, at least over, you know, some other guys. When you look at the guys who are behind them on the list, let's say, like Nate Solder or Bashad Breeland,

who certainly have potential. I mean, those guys have been healthy and been below-average starters at their positions at some points. If you go back and watch week one of last year, you would have Sam Bradford in your top five. Yeah. He had the – I do the QB index during the season, and that wound up as the second highest-graded game by any quarterback all season. And I remember thinking early on, like, wow, that was crazy that Sam Bradford has this score from that game. Like, I hope I'm not just, like, overrating because it was the first week.

And it ended up holding up, I think one. One Aaron Rogers game beat him. I mean, he still has coaches around the league that love him, too. That game was one of the best ball placement performances I've ever seen. Everything was just right on the receiver's hands in stride. It was breathtaking. Mark, anything from, let's say, 18 to 24 you want to bring up? Or do you want to shoot ahead to the top 30?

I think it would be interesting to see what happens with Kenny Vicaro at 24 because it sounds like he's been linked to the Cowboys forever and that they want to pay him a lot of money potentially. Do you think that he's going to be worth that money? He seemed like pretty streaky in New Orleans, good season, bad season. I feel like the Cowboys have had safeties coming out of their ears the last year or two, and they need cornerbacks. Yeah, he's a guy that I think the Saints never knew totally what to do with

and eventually grew frustrated with him. So that's not a good sign for a young player. But he's also a very versatile player who can cover, who can hit. Like, you look at, he's the type of guy I think gets overpaid in free agency. like the draft, he's a very toolsy type of guy that some team will look at and think, all right, we can make him into a start. Like, Greg Williams, I feel like, would love him some Kenny Vaccaro. Like, that's a Greg Williams type of player.

I think he's gotten so much credit for his versatility, but probably not enough criticism for his coverage problems. How about this? What kind of contract do you give Jimmy Graham? One year. Right, like two years at most, right? This is one of the guys that Wes and I disagreed on the most. Maybe we could go through a few of them. Sure.

But Wes had him ranked number 18 on his list, and I had him 40 or 38 on my list. Because at this point, he's kind of just a guy I don't want on my team. It just feels like there's at least a 50% chance. He's just going to fall off a cliff and not really help you much at all. He needs to go to the right situation to not disappear entirely. He's one year removed from a 923-yard season in an offense that didn't feature him. He's someone that it's kind of just watching him using the eye test, that he's lost so much quickness off of where he was.

He's almost tough to watch running routes now that he reminds me a little more of like a Jason Witten type. And when you have a guy who can't block and has that kind of lack of movement, it's like a guy whose career, I think, would end earlier than you would have expected. I mean, why not back to Seattle? They don't have a ton at tight end right now. And they did kind of find a way to unlock him in the red zone at least last year. I had a couple good games. Yeah, that's a good question.

I just feel like they haven't maximized him in Seattle. And I think guys like this are tricky. Like Greg said, he hasn't moved as well. We were saying the same things about Antonio Gates in his early 30s, that he was on the decline, that he wasn't moving as well, coming off of some foot injuries. And then he bounced back with a huge season and looked fast again. just never know with guys.

In the 30s. I've heard some buzz on Graham to the Bears, where Ryan Pace is a former Saints guy. In the 30s, two by low guys that could have value, I think. Vante Davis coming off the cornerback for the Colts, coming off two injury plague seasons. And we've talked about him a little bit already. Tyler Eifford, the tight end.

Another guy with injury history. But it probably won't cost you a ton either of those guys. and then the payoff could be big if they bounce back. Stay healthy. That's a good point because if these guys weren't coming off injury, if they both played 16 games last year, I think they're both top 10 on this list. Right.

I for it's maybe the biggest X factor in the entire list. Because he's played, it's not just he's coming off an injury. He is an injury. He's been injured his entire career. Three out of four years. He's a literal injury? If he wasn't so good in that one season,

and his career would basically be over because you don't see NFL players survive essentially missing three out of four seasons. He's played 10 games in the last two seasons. He's played 24 his entire career, and more than half of those was in one season. So in three out of the four seasons, he's essentially given you nothing

and he's got persistent back issues, which is a tough thing to overcome. With all that said, when he was out there, he was probably a top two or three tight end. So there's like no way to know, what he is, but the fact that the Bengals are kind of done with him doesn't speak too well, I think. You have Trey, you guys have Trey Burton two spots ahead of Eiffert. And Burton, of course,

kind of got locked behind Zach Ertz in Philly, and he's a guy. So it's interesting. If you are in the market for a tight end, those two guys, that's a decision to make there, because Burton is more untested, but seems to pass all the smell test of it all, that he could be a guy that steps into a bigger role. Eifford has already proven it, but is all banged up. He didn't get locked behind Zach Ertz on the Philly Special. Oh, yeah. Which, by the way.

Go Sessler. Has been trademark now. Well, there's been claimed, filed claims. Eight different groups have filed for trademark for the Philly Special, including the Eagles. I feel like the Eagles should potentially be the frontrunner there. It's one of them, they were the eighth to file the trademark, which is stupid. If you have that play in the bag. for the Super Bowl, you file that bitch before the game.

Well, the Patriots have named place, filed them pre-Super Bowl. I mean, they know what they're doing. Because I don't know the business, the trademark business. Don't add us trademark lawyers, but like, yeah, do it. And then that way, if it's a matter of like first come first serve, get off me. I've already trademarked this. I love the idea. I think you could ask where their brain, you know, if they're thinking about trademarking a potential trick play.

No, you put your version of Ernie Adams on the legal team like two weeks ahead of time and say, get on this. Yes. Moving on. Isn't their version of Ernie Adams one of Greg's good friends? Well, that may be a stretch, but I'm not sure what the job responsibilities are. Greg, Greg's all sour in the face about that. No comments, quick? No comment.

No comment. A real no comment there. One player that we skipped over here? Yes. Talk about an X factor. How about 29? Deion Lewis. I can't wait to find out where he winds up.

Are you just queuing up West to just crap all over Port Deion again? No, because it's like we talked about him. I can do it. Wait, he spent three years building him up on this podcast. I know. That's why the heel turn on Dion is not even a heel turn. It's just evaluating a player. So you don't feel like he would fit almost anywhere else?

I think he would fit great in a lot of places as a role. player as a complimentary back. I would not want to count on a guy who's injured as often as Dionne Lewis and is undersized to be my main workhorse. He's like, come on, you put me behind John Brown. John Brown hasn't done anything the last couple of years, and he's been on the field. Here's another guy. Put me behind E.J. Gaines.

Well, that would be like ranking Dionne Lewis in 2014. How does he sound like Jerry Seinfeldon? Ranking John Brown low. What's the deal? Like ranking Dionne Lewis in 2014 low. You rank the talent, not the most. recent season. Listen, as someone that pounded the table for Lamar Miller and free agency, I know how

these guys are going to perform with their new teams and Dionne Luce is going to do it. Saw that Lamar Miller might get cut. I know. Ouch. Here's a guy I think you guys have been a little bit unfair with in the blurb. I don't know which one of you wrote the blurb. But Jordan Matthews at 39. You wrote, he proved in Philly he could produce out of the slot with 225 catches in his first

three years. He proved in Buffalo. he's not talented enough to transcend problematic surroundings. Now, nice piece of writing, like the sentence. However, the guy was banged up from day one. They're literally day one. He jacked up his finger. Never was healthy.

I almost look at that year as a wash. And he's still to me a guy that has some real potential. He's too high for me. Even at 39, he's too high for me. I think he's a major injury risk going forward. He's been limited to the slot in his career, and he's not an outside receiver. I don't, I'm not wild about Jordan Matthews. Yeah, Jordan, I wrote that, by the way.

Okay. But I had him a little higher than Wes. I think the fact that the Eagles even traded him and I don't think they really saw him as a guy who's going to be a huge difference maker that he was a nice kind of piece to the puzzle. He had production of a top receiver, but I think they saw more as a three or a four type. Yeah. He's fine. But I think they love that trade for them. They got Nelson Aguilar on the field

who I think did things that that Jordan Matthews could not. Brent Grimes at 35 at 43. He's heading towards his age 35 season. Is this any fear that 43 is not high enough for Miko who might come after you guys in a big spot?

She probably thinks he's top three. I think Greg wrote the write up here if I'm guessing. No, really? West, did you have any apprehension? Nico Grimes did not cross my mind when I was writing this And as I've said before, you heard that, Miko.

I just battled the Big C. I'm not afraid of Miko Grimes. He was one of the guys randomly that we agreed on the most. We had them almost identical in our rankings in the early 40s. And so we were on the same page. Do you want one year of a quality cornerback or do you want several years of a guy who's coming off injuries, who's young and hasn't realized his potential? To me, it just speaks like at some point you just want the guy you can plug in there and play and not worry about the next three or four years.

He was right next to on my personal list, but he's much lower on the overall list, star Lodolele, or as Dan likes to call him. Lata Lassale. Who was a guy, and that was one where I struggled with, was like he's a young player who's played a lot of snaps, but is anyone actually sure that he's been any good at any point in his career? Like, has he even been an asset or has he been a negative?

And this is one where I'm admittedly influenced by the pro football focus grades because I haven't seen Lodolele make a huge difference, especially not the last year or two. And they've bury him in their grades. And I'm thinking, like, just because he's a first round pick and we know his name doesn't mean we have to rank him that high. Well, I think his problem is he's made as many impact plays in his typical season as Shelton Richardson made last season, which is not very many. I want to read my favorite blurb If you guys don't mind Okay And let me find it first

And I'm really excited to read it You want me to just like Start talking about Terrell Pryor or something You want a vamp? If you want Yeah Vap for a second Terrell Pryor in our top ten last year By the way

Took a big Big dive down to 33 Although that was higher than I think I had him Or that I thought he would go That feels generous. That feels pretty generous. I think if we had, in time we'll tell, I think we ultimately were pretty high overall

on some very risky wide receivers that haven't produced in the last year or two. Him, John Brown, Dante Moncrief, guys who, I feel like if they were at other positions, maybe they wouldn't have been ranked as high, but we've seen them be difference makers. Like Terrell Prior at quarterback, not so hard. Yeah, right.

I wanted Terrell Prior higher. He's still the guy who gave fits to a lot of really good cornerbacks in 2016. Browns want them back. It's a mysterious free agency twist, but... At number 49, Lindsay, can I get something a little sexy? Oh, no. I know which one this is.

Josh McCown, quarterback. Oh, yeah. Red flag injury risk entering his age 39 season. McCown is perhaps most valuable as a wet nurse for a talented but raw young stallion. Wes And you start writing these one after another And all of a sudden

What was happening in your world? All right These things are bleeding into I just got to like spice it up a little bit Wes I know that Oh spice is the right word Yes spice I know we don't put our

You know names on each one of these blurbs But just that one deserved a little CW Yeah Would you object if I ask the editors To just you know let everyone know that that was used. Go for it. I like it.

Well, whether it's good or bad, I will tell you it stopped me in my tracks. It's, I mean, you know, when you read, immediately the mind brings visuals, and they're very disturbing with this sentence. Right, it might get a little monotonous reading 101 blurbs, you know, if I'm thinking of the reader. A little sex appeal. Yeah, throw a little spice in it. Josh Cowan, father of like three young boys, now doubling as a wet nurse for a raw young

stallion. That is... Look. That is figurative. Use protection. You're right. He is a, you know, this is getting off topic, but if you were going to make, like, a top 10 list of NFL players who just kind of have the look of a guy that might be in a pay cable after 1 a.m.

Oh, no. Where are you going over there? I feel like Josh McCown could have had that look. I think Josh McCown could have, if he weren't Josh McCown and he were like the seven. The seventh biggest person on Mad Men with his hair and his jawline, totally fit. Can't you see him like knocking on the door and he's just like delivery? Honestly, I see him the opposite direction. If he wasn't an NFL quarterback, he would be the guy with the acoustic guitar at the church, like playing music for kids and stuff.

No doubt about that. But that bleeds in his actual image, I think, on some level. Shout out to Prince of Mukumara, who's ranked 48th on the list for the fourth straight year. Weirdly. Is he? No. I made that up. But he's a free agent every year.

He signs a one-year contract. He's solid, and he ends up, like, in our top 50. He ends up between, like, 35 and 50. Literally every year. Why couldn't you just read that blurb? That was a better one. I liked your blurb-wise. Let's skip to the end of the list.

You could check out the whole list again at NFL.com slash top 300 on three. Top 101 free agents, I believe. I always like the end of the list. You have Frank Gore, the, inconvenient truth sitting at 100 and at 101 can you get a drum roll

at 101 always a lot of fun who gets put the final man usually it's a bit of an in joke Jay Cutler congratulations Jay Wes just made a face

like bile came up in his mouth There was a discussion on Twitter which Evan Silva was included and he ranked him in his top 35, I believe. Yeah, we got, Silva. And his reasoning was... Big fish. His reasoning was if he gets signed,

Silva's formula is, I rank guys on what their average annual contract would be. That's a different... And my retort to that would be the average annual contract of zero would still be zero. He doesn't belong on your list. Nobody's going to sign him.

Ouch. Jay's probably heading back to the booth. Maybe Jay, yeah. Back, was he ever there? Well, you know, he's got an agreement to go to the booth again. He has a conference call, didn't he? About his. Yeah, the whole thing.

He maybe, I know he had a deal with Fox, right? Correct. Is Fox doing Thursday Night Football this year? They are. Yep. Interesting. Wow. I think it's going to happen now.

If I could put a sandwich on it, Cutler Thursday nights. My averse to Cutler on the field might not extend to the broadcast booth. I mean, if he's good off the bat, let's put him on. Well, he at least deserves a completely clean slate. I feel like it's a really a career, kind of a cherry on the Sunday here to get to the one. I feel like his whole career was kind of a preamble to this moment. He's destined for this.

I would agree that being ranked 101 is probably the highlight of his football. And you guys made a lot of people happy. No Colin Kaepernick on this list. Hope you feel good about yourselves. Well, it's funny you say that. We overlooked him, and he's going to be on there. Oh, he's got it. We have a lot of people who we're adding.

Prunel McPhee is coming on there. Where did you rank McPhee in 2015 before he utterly flamed out with the Bears? I think he was in our top 15 or so. Yeah, McPhee will be in the 80s. Kaepernick was 76 last year, and we just do the list based off players who were on teams last year. We kind of forgot about him, so I think he's going to. Greg, is Ligarrett Blunt at 93 simply as an act of anger out of you? because he left your team and wiped your clean.

He's a lead pipe block for a Lombardy. 93. I know you guys don't like Lageret Blunt, but that is a little absurd to me. Wes had him a little higher than me, but he had him in the mid-80s, so they weren't too off. Nobody signs him until July every year.

Real quick. It doesn't play, you know, third. He doesn't play third. That's what it is. Real quick, before, I want to just check in with one more thing. What? Breaking news? Greg, I swear to God.

The Cleveland Browns have claimed wide receiver Larry Pinkard via waivers from Jacksonville. Pinkard 6-0196 pounds, entering his second season out of Old Dominion, originally signed as an undrafted free agent in 2015. You son of a bitch. You sandbagging son of a bitch. I thought something real happened to the Browns vastly disappointed. Greg just wasted our time. That was real.

That's from their official press release. In fact, I was going to ask Greg to give us one more player. I don't know if we have time. I might have just messed up the time element of the show. Time sticking. Oh, yeah. I'll be cool about it. Greg, do you have one other guy you want to bring up from your top 101?

I'll bring up Paul Richardson because I think he and Mark Eastley are two intriguing young receivers that are coming off of their best seasons. And I think could both make a lot of money this year. Wes, how about you? I am searching. All right. Paul Richardson to the Chiefs, book it. Awesome.

Just to circle back to last year's 2017, top 10, how that shook out in terms of guys that made an impact or did not. The list last year was Alshan Jeffrey at number one. Callais Campbell at two. Guy almost won defensive player in the year. Guys are up to a good start here. Brandon Williams, the defensive tackle that stayed in Baltimore. or three, Dante Hightower at four, injury wiped out his season.

A.J. Bouye, Texan's cornerback. He signed the big deal with the Jaguars and did his thing. Stefan Gilmore started off shaky in New England. Good free agent crop so far. And then had a big close to his year. Kevin Zitler signed with the Browns. How was Zitler? Nothing really was good with the Browns last year.

I mean, Zitler, according to, I don't judge right guards, but on PFF, he had a nice mark. He wasn't the issue. They had other issues. They did. They had other issues above Kevin Zitlitz. Number eight, here's the first miss, but what are you going to do? Adrian Peterson, who I asked Greg downstairs, is he on your current list?

He's still under contract with the Cardinals. It was a two-year deal he signed with the Saints. He'll probably get cut. Will he find his way on your top 101 if and when he is released? I wouldn't put him on. I would definitely put him on. He had several games last year that told me he can still play. he is going to be 33 next year.

Number nine, Torel Pryor. So he dropped by the bit. That's my pick that I'm doubling down on Torel Pryor. I think people are writing him off for a bad season with Washington. But I thought he really played well with the Browns the year before. He was also, I mean, he was dealing with injuries all last season. Yeah. My question with him might be more character-driven,

the fact that the Browns, for whatever reason, we're totally cool with letting him go and then signing Kenny Britt and then in Washington things going sideways as well Well they offered him money like he thought his value

was going to be much higher and he was wrong I think it's fair it's fair to question some of that stuff Dantari Poe was your number 10 last year and who's solid

he was solid for the Falcons and I'm looking at the rest of the top 20 Andrew Whitworth he had at 17 he was certainly a top five guy at the end of the year so there you go check it out

there it is how fun you guys did it again let's go upstairs let's go to the kitchen daddy's gonna cook some dinner are you gonna let mark have any yeah a little spinach dip for mark i don't even like spinach little spin dip as they call it on the tgai fridays what did you have at brunch uh i had a very nice i had a pancakes and uh some some hash browns on the side nice choices what did you have are you had a burrito i got the burrito you and my wife got the you started eating the wrong burrito yeah it was it was a moment we had it was like Did you take my burrito? I think I did.

Born on the same day and the same year. Do you want it back? Okay. This is so us. This is so us. I just missed you guys. I was at the Overland Cafe yesterday after. That's where we were.

Is that where you were? Yeah, that's where we were. Yeah. The Paramore and I went, but we didn't get there until about three because she had to win. That place is funny because the reason we went is because they have the bottomless mimosas. And if you get there with your kids, we did. You have to get there early because

your kids are annoying. But then when you're in there and all of a sudden it's 10.30 or so, all like the Kardashian clones start rolling in and they're Ubers and they're all wearing ridiculous sunglasses and belly shirts and everybody's flying high looking to get messed up. It's kind of a fun

LA scene. There were multiple women posing against the side of the building when we've pulled it. Well, no, that's the scene. But we had to be out of there by, you know, kids give you got about maybe 62 minutes tops with them. That's a, that was essentially, yeah, the meat of the event was, we poured back a few glasses of champagne.

One of the great societal curveballs, by the way. Just like, our little winks. It's like, yeah, you could drink champagne at 9 a.m. Just drop a little orange juice in there. Society's fine with it. Our household paid for it afterwards dearly. Everyone crashed. All right.

So we will be back on Wednesday. Yes, from Indianapolis, from the Combine. there. We really, we love covering the press conferences of the coaches and GMs. That's why we're there. We're not there for the underwear Olympics. So we'll do a show on Wednesday and then another show Thursday. Wasn't that where Greg ended Steve Smith's Panthers career? I was with a heat seeking question of Dave Gettlement. I wouldn't say I ended it, but uh, be accountable, Greg. Sure. It was the opening chapter of the end. So yes, make sure you tune in. It's going to be a fun week for us.

That's it. Dan Hansa, signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman who delivered. A, Stallion, man. Own it. I liked it. I was in. Wetners, baby. The old boss of Lindsay Fulton behind the glass till Wednesday.

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