NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Friday Fun Show! Chiefs-Chargers TNF Recap + Final Thoughts for Week 2

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

A virtual room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal share their final thoughts before a weekend of football action. First, we recap the Chiefs-Chargers Thursday night matchup. Then, Dan takes us on a journey called "Three Cocktails in Malibu." We take feedback and questions from the LIVE listeners, and hit the final nuts and bolts leading into Week 2 with Heroes of the Week Predictions. The Friday Fun Show airs live on YouTube at 10am PT/3pm ET/6pm BST every Friday.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. It's creepy. Welcome to the Friday fun show, working title, the Around the NFL podcast, Primer for Sunday. Isn't the Thursday show The Primer for Sunday? You don't even know what primers are, bro. Dan Hans is here with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sassel. Good to start things off in an adversarial way.

This feels like a like weak meek mill. This is like weak mill right now. Ah, very nice. Good take down of our opening theme. Mark, how are you? I got there. It's Friday, so I'm in a little bit of a better mood than I would normally be in. There's an uptick in the mood and the happiness.

If you're listening to the podcast version of today's show, remember that you can be a part of it live every Friday morning, 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern, happy hour in UK and surrounding territories. So that's kegs and eggs in L.A. That's like a madman lunch in New York. And, you know, pints and pulp in the UK. Well, we had a listener saying that they just cracked a Guinness, which I think was an appropriate action for this show. Well, they pour a Guinness there, Mark. We're going to be going to London in a couple of weeks. And you can't be saying cracking open a can of Guinness and expect to survive a trip. So, yes, Donovan Gallagher, one of our listeners, poured a Guinness and is waiting to let it settle. And then he's going to enjoy it along with the show coming up today. We're going to, like I said, final thoughts ahead of week one.

We're going to make our MVP predictions. We're going to get the listeners involved with some kind of mailbag questions, but before that, let's put a bow on the first game of week two, a good one at Arrowhead. Chargers go without a huddle again. Right side, time, intercepted on the left side, picked off at the goal line, at the 25-yard line, picked off by Watson. Watson could go all the way. The seventh round pick, 20, 15, 10, 5, Jalen Watson, cooking hamburgers in Augusta, Georgia, Then he went to Wazoo, and now he gets a 100-yard pick six for a touchdown. Kansas City at 1029 to go in the game.

Oh, there's a call for you. Mitch Holtus from a Arrowhead Stadium just going off. What a big moment that was for the Chiefs, who fall behind early, against the division rival Chargers. But yes, the game turning pick six, when it appeared the Chargers had a chance really to take control of that game late or regain control. And instead, it's the Chiefs who take control.

Jalen Watson's pick six, the difference in a 27-24 Chiefs win over the Chargers. Watson said later, I don't even remember what happened at that moment. It's all so surreal. So always fun when a seventh round pick has such a huge moment. I think it was, how was the game described

by Shadow We League figures, the most important broadcast in the history of the medium? Something like that. Nice way to start the Amazon package. Great game, Gregi. I felt like I was watching last year's late season

AFC West deciding game because the Chargers so clearly outplayed the Chiefs for a second straight time when they played and the Chargers for the second straight time found a way to lose. Like they had more yards for play. They moved the ball better.

It felt like they should have had three to four interceptions. A couple got overturned by penalty. They dropped two or three more. And then the one mistake, really, that the Chargers made, other than some strategic things, Jared Cook, or rather Gerald Everett, who was doing his best Jared Cook impression, has a lazy route,

kind of fools Justin Herbert into that pick six. And it just felt like so many chargers, games. I know they've beaten the chiefs a couple times in Arrowhead once with Chad Henney, but it just felt like every Chargers, Chiefs games. You can't tell me any different. Well, I mean, Gerald Everett had that big catch prior, and it was sort of suggesting, get me out, I need a breather. And so I think that factored into his miscommunication and sort of sloppy route running on that. Yeah, lazy route is kind of a tough call, Greg, when he maybe should have been out of the game in that moment. He was obviously dealing with conditioning issues.

I mean, yeah, but it was a mental error. And so, okay, you're lazy. Like, Dan Arlowski, for- Is that a mental error if you're exhausted? I know we're going to defend Justin Herbert to the very end, no matter what on the show, but... Yeah, I, Diorner-Lovsky did a good job explaining it, but it's like he just needed to take the out.

The point of him was to clear that sort of side. If he's open, he's open, great. But the guy on the inside has the choice to go either way, and he needs to clear the spot. And he just sort of looked and saw for a second that he thought he should move in on a play that he's supposed to just clear out. And yeah, he totally fooled his quarterback.

All right. You're just looking to blame, Justin Herbert? You don't like it when it's a result. And by the way, it's your fault if you're tired in an NFL game too, like after you made it big run. I would agree with you there, Greg. I mean, we're here in September. The idea that Gerald Everett is winded is a problem to begin with it.

That's what was going on there. But, I mean, come on, the most striking visuals from this game are how it ended with Justin Herbert getting cracked twice and just lying on the ground in total pain. And I know it's this debate should they have pulled him. At one point, Dan, I saw what you tweeted last night. And there was a, when the, after the Frank Clark hit, where he just was on, like, looked in extreme anguish.

I thought the same thing. You got to get him out of there. But then he does or turns around and fires the bullet to Deonti Carter. Just like, I don't know. It's like we've lived in a world of football where like Byron Leftwich at Marshall, went to the hospital, came back in the game and was carried down the field by offensive lineman in between plays. I mean, I think part of it has to be Justin Herbert's solitary decision to stay in or not. And if he wanted to, I was cool with

him doing that. I thought that was borderline malpractice by Brandon Staley, who again, has not impressed me, does not cover himself in Gloria's head coach, in my opinion at this point. I think the player, especially someone as special as Herbert, is such an elite competitor. He's never going to want to come out. He's not going to wave his hand and say, take me out of this game. I thought he was one, had hit away from potentially this turning into a very ugly scene at Arrowhead. And I hated the way that when he, and I understand like the play after this happened, what I'm about to explain, he threw an incredible dart to set up the final touchdown. And by the way, they're down 10 points.

They're already back against the wall, probably 95% lose probability. And it's like when he throws that ball away when he has the first down, but he knows he can't take a hit and he can't even throw. I'm sorry. Like this guy, not only is he your franchise, he's also like a human, being who clearly is in danger. Like he was literally in danger and I'm not trying to like pump this up and they just left him in the game and I just thought, oh, all right.

I mean, that was a decision you made and I feel like right now we're finding out that he's undergoing tests for an apparent rib or chest injury. That's again, not a part of the body you want to mess with if you're clearly in a lot of pain. I just hated it. I'm with you and because of the situation, they had virtually no chance to win the game there. And it was partly because of the Chargers coaches that their offense like makes sense when he gets rid of the ball quickly, like when he gets rid of it after 2.5 seconds. But there's nothing

downfield. He only threw two throws downfield the whole game, including that great one at the end. He hit them both for big plays. And it's this weird dink and dunk offense under Joe Lombardi that I'm just not a huge fan of. Yeah. I mean, to your point, Greg, in the second half, and I thought the Chargers in the first half, like they took command of this entire thing. And then in the second, he averaged 3.1 air yards per pass in the second half. I mean, it was dinks and dunks, and it is a Joe Lombardi issue. I mean, I thought Staley, if their identity was to be aggressive on fourth down, there were a handful of situations where he seemed to back away from that.

And I think that's fine. Did it last week, too. That's fine in some games. But when you're dealing with Patrick Mahomes on the other side, you've got to be aggressive. And so, Dan, I know you're down on Brandon Staley. What I'd be down on is if he changed what he was, philosophy. He was so strong about a year ago. And I know tons of people hated it, others liked it,

but he stuck with it. But if you changed all that now because of the reaction, which we don't know why, but it's like there were a couple situations where last year's Brandon Staley would have absolutely dialed it up on fourth down. Yeah. Well, it didn't work this game. Didn't work last year. And I just, I don't think this was a Chargers going to charger game. I think what happened here. They were up 10 nothing. Yeah. Well, yes, but again, you're in Arrow. go ahead. I thought, I think a big boy game broke out in the second half. And here are the chiefs on in prime time on a huge stage. And the chiefs have been through the wars and they found a way to make it happen. And the Chargers are just not there yet. And I don't think that means they won't get there. But I did think it was a bit of a gut check. I thought, you know, heading into this game, this felt like a huge litmus test for the Chargers. And, you know, when Sante Samuel looks to have an interception when they're up 177, I'm like, oh, look at this. They might actually do this. And I'm like, oh, look at this. They might actually do this. thing. And then who knows the way we're talking about the charges this morning. But instead it doesn't work out. The offense stalls. Herbert gets hurt. The pick six happens. And it is what it is.

So we're kind of right back where we started with the AFC West right now, in my opinion, where this is the chief's division. I think the chargers are going to be frisky and be in the mix. But I feel more and more confident that Kansas City is still the class of this group. By the way, like I used the term in my last statement, take command. And as I said, I realized, I can't say that ever again on the show. And it does not, functionally does not work as a statement. Also, you have to qualify by, you know, getting ready to take command. I mean, that's, the whole concept. You have to stammer. Take command. You have to, you have to imagine being on a private jet with a social media conduit, coaching you through it, maybe holding up a cue card. It's take seven. And they know they

probably need a take eight, but the plane's about to land. And they've basically run out of one way. We decided to really go ahead and start to take command. Yeah. And it's like, we'll have to use this one. That's it. And now it's in eternity. You're right. Quickly on Mahomes, like, that was a bad Mahomes game. Everyone knows that. It could have been picked off four or five times. But I was thinking about Roger Federer and some analysis I heard about this recently. Love Federer. All right, let's clear the runway, as it were, Mark, for Greg's tennis takes. It has nothing to do with tennis, although I did enjoy the tennis analyst said that the tennis cognizanti. So maybe it's cognizanti.

That was the British pronunciation. Pointed out, like when you control time in sports, and he thought Federer really controlled time, then you control the game. And I thought that was such a great point. And it really reminded me of Mahomes that, yes. Yeah, this was a bad game, but if you think of the three biggest plays he made in this game, it's like the rest of the game is moving in slow motion for him. That throw to Travis Kelsey, where Kelsey ended up getting suplexed by Derwin James. That was like Mahomes' fourth read, and he had already spun around,

and it was like everyone around him was moving in fast motion, but it didn't matter what he did. That's what he did. On the Justin Watson touchdown, where he beats J.C. Jackson, Mahomes did an unbelievable job stepping up against good pressure in the pocket to throw a one-footed pass to Watson for that touchdown. And then on the sidearm one, we've gotten so youth to the touchdown early, the sidearm one, he's just buying time, buying time, buying time, and he just seems so untroubled while all the defensive players are coming around him. And I really think even compared to two years ago, the game is just in slow motion for him and he controls time in a way that other quarterback. just don't he's ridiculous all right i like that controlling time that's what we all seek to do and yet

we cannot it is the the mortality that binds us all right mark i think that's well said by both even even fetter although unlike fetter it's like he's 41 his career is over we're we're in our 40s we're still flying we're not athletes so we could do this for another 20 years if they'd have us i did I revisited because it's on Netflix for the first time in a while, American Beauty. And it starts. So bad. It starts with talking Lester Burnham, the main character played by the since disgraced Kevin Spacey, doing a rundown of the mundane elements of his life.

And he's like, I'm a 42 year old man with nothing going on. I was like, I got to turn this off. When I saw that, I thought 42 was like, I mean, now I'm like, I'm six years older than that character. That's absurd to me. Only Garden State has aged worse of 1990s movies. That would be my top two. That's actually a good off-season podcast topic. I like that.

But let's wrap up Thursday Night Football Talk. Again, all the week two games recapped on the Sunday night flagship show and then the doubleheader Monday night, Gregi at night, late nights with Gregi. We're going to get a refasan who's moved on to a national role. has been covering the Vikings last couple years going to join us. Good booking. Graver's going to be doing the Titans, you know. Good booking, bro. Who does the booking, Greg?

Do you handle that or do you hand that off to an assistant? So far, I've done it to the first two weeks, but maybe we'll get an assistant. And branding is important, Greg. So I just threw an out there late nights with Gregie. That's a six at best. I think we could work on that. Maybe the listeners as a part of today's show can help out with the Monday Night Recap name for Greg. All right.

let's move on where is grave digger where is he hello yeah i was talking to gravedigger i was uh you know talking with graver before the show about some you know elements uh in post production and he's like yeah whatever dude i got to get to a wedding right after this so it's like uh oh are we already there with this producer no no no no no this is i'm the best man so i have to like be at the rehearsal that's all the speech i've done that a couple times That's a big one. That's like a good time. How long should my speech be?

Don't weigh them down with anything too weighty. Three minutes, I think. Not three minutes. No, that's a very great answer. I would say five to seven, you know. If it's really, is this like your best friend? Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, take people on a journey, you know? I think three to five is totally appropriate. If you bet, just whatever all your best stuff is, just say all that and take out everything else. I'm glad I did not know Greg when I got married. And make sure. And this is not to, you know, take shots at the opposite sex. But make sure the matron or maid of honor goes first because that's always a pretty easy bar to clear. So, you know, have them set things up.

And then when you come on and you write off the bat, deliver a zinger and you're personable and engaging, they're like, whoa, now the reception is flying. By the way, I'm reading the comments. Everyone is supporting me in my shorter is better take. no one's ever been like wish that one was longer yeah but it depends if you're good at it we didn't say 25 minutes we said five to seven you're you're like in and out in two and a half minutes it's like an NFL network hit three to five all right let's go let's get to it all right let's do a little fun segment uh what's call it the floor is yours so that we're again we're figuring out the friday fun show working title um fFS and today we're going to take turns uh just throwing

a topic out there and then have some fun with it. So I thought about this, Al Michaels with Kirk Herb Street, which I thought was a very nice start for that team on TNF, Amazon. I think, and I tweeted this, Al Michaels is certainly the guy I'd most want to have a cocktail in Malibu with, not just one, three cocktails in Malibu. And you sit down and you have the first one and you know, knock off the wrong. rust or get to know each other a little, the second one, and all of a sudden, conversations full, and then the third one, all right, now we're really chopping up.

And Al Michaels, with all his stories at 77 years old, his life in Los Angeles, he knows Malibu better than anyone. I don't know if we've been on a Nobu or Dukes or Moon Shadows, Jeffries, Paradise Cove, where I proposed to my wife. That's his call. I'll just tell me where to be, Al. I'll be there. So, with that in mind, By the way, do you know it's Al Michaels called Jeff Bezos, one of the great mathematical minds in history? That was weird. Is that what he's known for? I wouldn't have described him that way, but...

I'm sure he's a genius. I felt like a close talker. I felt uncomfortable for Goodell. It felt like Bezos was almost like leaning into his midsection, and I felt like Goddell was like, please give me my personal space. I can't say that billionaire. Yep. And the real ones know that the most important and intriguing figure was the guy to Roggs Wright, which was Curtis Martin, totally overlooked in conversation, but whatever.

All right, so here are my five, top five, three cocktails in Malibu figures in the NFL. One, and this might surprise you, but it shouldn't. Bill Belichick. I feel like the Tito's or Scotch or whatever he's drinking would disarm him. He'd take a little bit of a shine to tugboat, and I'd love to just hear him. Once he gets loose, I talk Parcells, his exit from the jets, deflate. Gate, 9-11, Aaron Hernandez's hot takes, his favorite WW2 documentaries, like Bon Jovi, underappreciated deep cuts.

I would tell him that I'm into midnight in Chelsea off John's 97 solo effort, destination anywhere, and I feel like that would really go a long way with Bill Belichick. That's my number five. Four, Mike Tomlin, who I think would have, the Steelers coach would have a real Neil Patrick Harris in Harold and Kumar vibe. The night only begins at Moon Shadows once you get Tomlin warmed up. We've heard some good stories that he's a fun hang. Not that he would hang with us, but that he's a fun hang.

Right. But that's what the idea of three cocktails in Malbu is. It's like, yeah, maybe we get put together by an arrangement, but get a couple in him, and Tomlin's like, oh, yeah, now where we go next? Let's go. Follow me. I'm like, all right. Michael Irvin, I know he works with us, so this isn't, and we live in Los Angeles.

So in theory, this wouldn't be the most impossible thing. But it is. We have no relationship with Michael Irvin. But again, I vaguely had a cocktail with Michael Irvin at the draft. I don't know if he realized that he was having one with me, though. Well, I was with you for that, right? You were across the room. I was engaged in conversation with him.

He seemed, you know, he was enjoying it himself, I thought. Yeah, I'm sure that's how he saw that interaction as well. Next, Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell. Now, this would be the rare, because you know, Zuster likes his Tito's and soda, but this would be the exception. I would drink the Bud Heavies with Dan Campbell. We'd throw back six Budwisers and, you know, just get his takes on things in life. And I feel like he would, you'd really learn a lot about Dan Campbell, I think, after a bunch of drinks.

I'd be there, Tom Brady for the Giselle talk. Like, I could be the guy that he could finally open up to about what's going on. And then I'd share it with you guys on the podcast in the audience. I don't even think he opens up with his friends. I feel like that might be a tough one. Then he has a third cocktail. Dan is good at that. I've had experiences with Dan in that situation.

I think he might be the one that could get Tom Brady to speak like a little bird. I'm just going to say that, like, Mark is probably a little easier to get to speak on things. Just a little. Okay. And finally, my white whale is Joe Namath. For obvious reasons, but I also, Joe's clean now. I don't want to mess with a sobriety. But I pay to hear stories about his life, including when he co-owned the Bachelor's Three

nightclub on the Upper East Side. And six months after he won the Super Bowl in 1969, Pete Roselle, the commissioner of the NFL, said he didn't like the undesirables connected to the nightclub and forced Joe to sell. and Joe said, I'm not selling, I retire. Joe Namath retired for the NFL at 26 years old for a month. The Tom Brady story is cute this year. We want to talk about a crazy one-month retirement for a Hall of Fame QB. That was it, and eventually Namath realized he had to let go of Bachelors 3,

and he did divest himself and rejoined the Jets during training camp. But that's one of my favorite NFL stories ever. I wish if I could go on a time machine, go to Bachelors 3, which was Namath and two other dudes that were also Bachelors in New York City during that time. That feels like, let's get in the time machine, Sessler. Let's head to Bachelors 3 and see what happens.

You don't have to convince me. I'd go there today by noon. Do you want it? Yes, I do. All right. Time machine. There you go. The floor was mine, and now the floor is back to the group.

Is anybody... Al feels the most realistic. Now, you've got to be careful. I would say used the new Uber account that they got us for work. Al's had some mishaps getting home from Malibu, just saying. Oh, Greg. I mean, it's happened multiple times. I live in the area.

I just want to be safe driving on the roads a bit out. You know, I might see out. Why, Greg. We don't talk about, Mel Gibson. It's funny. You know, Gino Smith's DUI bus doesn't come up. If we're going to give Steve Kime the business. I was just going to say, like, Gino's DUI bus doesn't seem to come out of your mouth too often.

It's funny. Gino has been a nonstop present in the comments, just people just saying, waiting for me to bring them up. It wasn't going to come up this show. All right. Let's move on. Hey, GraveDigger. What are the listeners have to say? The listeners have been very active, but guys, send us some football questions to get to here. Here's a question that has nothing to do with football. Okay. the undesirables potential name for the friday show is that referring to us or the people in the comments section i i'm loving the comments people want are talking up little dubby i did get a

lot of suggestions um for the monday night show by the way after you ask snark after dark with 60% g under the sheets with greggie recap with rosy uh con banua with gregg which uh it's like two 17 in the morning and in japan rosy's monday nightmare i don't know i like snark after dark Yeah, that's pretty good. Snark after dark with 60%. That's very like Steve Summers, the schmoozer. Snark after dark. I mean, last week's was under the sheets with Greggie and Gino.

Maybe not for the entire family. So the best question we have right now, Grave Digger, is who is the best third down back in the league right now? Ooh. Like, what are we doing here? What about this one? Are the Cardinals dead without DeAndre Hopkins? Is it too early to call it? Maybe they could flip what they did the last couple years.

Maybe they can stoink for the first month of the season and then like reverse engineer it. But I do think they're going to be in a world for it. I don't feel like DeAndre Hopkins comes back and saves everything else that we saw in that one game. If that continues, that level of disorganization, I'm not sure it's a player away scenario for what's going on there. What else we got?

Yeah, they're in trouble. He wasn't even that good last year before he went out. Here's one. Now you have to read it just in her house that list. Calamaras, how long into this season does it take networks to go all 22 cam? It looked amazing last night. Yeah, that was one element of the Amazon coverage that I saw being pumped up in some corners of Twitter that you have real time all 22. That sounds cool.

It does feel like, yes, and obviously there's going to be some shadowy league figure brand building here, but there are elements of what happened on Thursday that feel like the future of how sports are going to be. presented to consumers with more and more choices on how they digest it. So, like, the fact that that's how the show, I didn't have any glitching issues with my telecast, like, this sounds pretty good. Like me, I'm more like meat and potatoes. I like Alan Kirk, so I'm going to stick with that telecast. We also had it on locally because we're in L.A. So I just put it on, I'm still, I still have direct TV.

So I just watched it on the local station. Did it come and we'll check out the, uh, the dude perfect broadcast version? I didn't, but I feel like my kids would have been into that, but I wasn't going to, you know, change the channel to watch those guys. What else we got? Dan is so set in his ways. I love it. Mike B wants to know if the heroes listen back to the podcast as the tape dogs you claim to be, and he knows Greg doesn't. I do quite often, actually, listen to the podcast just to see how things came out, things that Justin and I work with are the producers.

and in general, I just like to see. Sometimes I learn things listening to the podcast because things are moving fast and Gregi or Marky will make a point that I missed during the show. I'm like, oh, yeah, I hear that. So I do. I check in.

I think like you, you can get better at doing it, especially early on. Like, I would listen a lot and like realize you should not have gone, you should not have said that. Keep your mouth shut. Other times speak up.

But not really. I don't listen to it that much now. Like, for instance, if I'm in the car and someone, you know, in my family who's listening to it, I'm just like, turn that off. Now, these voices I hear all the time. So it's like, I'm good. But I will say one thing, with the whole thing that happened with our dear friend, Wes,

I've spent a lot of time going back and listening to just random episodes from like 2015. And there are so many incredible West gems, but also we're all so different way back then that I find those to be treasures to listen to. And I don't do it as much. I save it for like a Friday night sometimes. and it's the delight. Yeah, I've enjoyed going back looking for little Easter eggs from Wes. Listening to the current shows is torture.

I can't think of anything I enjoy less, so it does not seem like. Greg loves working with Dan and Mark. No, it's not you guys. I'm self-critical in the moment of this show. About a four-minute best man speech. Right. Look, I stand strong with that idea. Like, I've done a couple best man speeches,

and maybe the second one was more like five or six. One went good, one went poorly. I'll put it that way. Can you imagine like Greg with all the negging in his best man speeches, like all the, you know, backhanded compliments and little digs within the speech that are done in love? But everybody's kind of like, what's up with this guy? Why is he taking shots at the groom?

It's like the bride's family is just like, I went too sweet on the first one. And I thought I could wing it more than I could. It was not good. All right. Let's do a couple more. All right, back to football. If Derek Carr doesn't take the Raiders to the playoffs, do they move off from him?

I think they do. I think if he struggled all season. What's his contract situation? They made it in such a way that they can move off him after one year. It was kind of the underrated part of that whole move. That's a little too binary. If he plays well and they don't make the playoffs, they'll definitely keep him.

But I just am saying if he had a very poor season, like the worst Derek Carr season, let's say, in the last five years, I think they would move off him, yeah. That would be extremely surprising to me because as much as Carr can take criticism for not being a special quarterback or maybe being closer to good, much closer to good or even a tick below that than great. I feel like at the end of the year, he'll have the production and Devante Adams will be happy. It would have to really go sideways. I agree. Like what we saw in week one happening seven or eight times and they finish in last place.

Because you've got to be very careful there. If you moved on from Derrick Carr, again, a guy that's good, you better upgrade at the position or what are we even doing. I understand you want to take that big swing if you think Carr's not the guy, but don't just blindly head into the off season because you might end up with like Sam Darnold and a rookie quarterback. Well, I would say number one, you've got a new coach and new general manager. And so that heightens to me the chance that there's no marriage here to Derrick Carr.

It depends where they are in the draft situation, which what the quarterback scenarios and coming into the draft are. And trading huge players is no longer a rare thing anymore. I mean, I could see them swinging for the fences to acquire someone different. So I think he has to play real well. I don't think you're just stuck with him. Someone said Aaron named Aaron Klanderman says, could we ever get Claibon or Connie Fox on this show?

We will be adding some guests, I think, to this Friday show over there. There will be a rotation of guests dropping in. But while we're figuring out the mechanics of the program, you know, well, this is a work in progress. This is the Friday fun show. It's a working title. All right, let's see. Anything else?

Want to do one more quick one? Sure, one more. Will Trey Lance be benched if the Niners lose on Sunday? Now, people are overreacting to this. No, no way. I think they've got to be like, it had to be like one in five or something. But then at that point, you have to strike the balance, I think, is like, this is a Super Bowl team. That's how they see themselves.

How bad would the record need to go where, like, if you put Jimmy G. And who's also not going to save the day, it's too late. I think that's where the tension is. It's like, are we going to go down with a sinking Tray Lance? But I don't think they know enough about him yet. I think that's part of the reason why, even though we talked about this on the Thursday show, I can't really take too much at all out of what happened at Soldier Field because of the conditions. But it still didn't help Tray Lance because I think he has, in my opinion, like a four game

runway here to get things on track and prove that they can move forward and score points and be the type of offense that could contend for. a Super Bowl spot. And he basically just wiped one of those away because of the weather. So now we're into week two and their own one. And now he gets a clear runway, but now it feels like more like a three week runway. I think that's what we're dealing with. But I just don't want to like get too crazy about what happened in week one. This is one of the things I'm more excited about seeing is what Lance looks like.

As long as the weather doesn't suck again, which it's meant to rain. There's a high percentage of rain. But it won't be what it was in Chicago, I'm guessing. No, weather's never exactly the same. It will be slightly different than that weather pattern. That's a great point, Mark. All right, let's close things out here. By the way, they could be a cornered animal next week.

When I misunderstood how this show was going, that was going to be, you have the floor, Greg, was all the potential cornered animals out there. A lot of heavy favorites that, like that's going to fall. 49ers, Rams, Broncos, Bengals, Raiders, Packers, Packers. Like, one of those team is going to blow it as a heavy favorite this week, and they're going to be a cornered animal. That's your week, week three. Nice, Greg. I feel like Greg was a little scatterbrained before the show today. We didn't hear from you much. Then we heard there was tech difficulties and you didn't understand.

It wasn't scatterbrain. I just misunderstood your text last night. I thought it was like clear that we would take turns. Yeah. When you said take turns, I thought you went like, you went, I went, Mark went. See, that's how misunderstood. Okay. All right, here we go. MVP picks. Let's first, because I think accountability is important. Our predictions last week, I don't think. That was hero of the week, though.

I mean, it wasn't MVP of the week. Oh, sorry, hero of the week. Yeah. Whatever. It's all the same shit. Well, not with the guy I picked, but we'll get to that. Last week, Greg, you had Jamar Chase referencing the Steelers Corners as a, quote, major problem.

I mean, he did have a game-winning touchdown at the buzzer. They just didn't hit the game-winning extra point. I got you. I'm just saying. I had Bill Belichick will be seen as a hero on Sunday for flummoxing Miami and the Pats win. Well, the defense gave up 13 points to two-in company, but the offense didn't show up. So that's wrong.

And Mark got preseasoned. He said Danny Gray, rookie wide receiver for the 49. would be the hero of the week. He was not active, but I bet he was really impressive in those preseason games. No, I think they probably really like his character, he is coachable.

But no, that was a swing and miss. I was swinging for the fences because had that happened, it's one of those things we could reference for the rest of the season, but it was a massive strikeout. All right, let's make our hero picks for week two, Mark. All right, I'm going to go against the grain again here

because I think everyone is so infatuated with what they witnessed in week one from the Buffalo Bills that I'm going to go Ryan Tannahill, who I think played a really clean game against the Giants for the most part. I mean, what happened around him was messy. But if Ryan Tannahill on an island, well, it's not an island,

there's two clashing islands on Monday Night Football, but he goes out there. There's evidence that early in these season, Ryan Tannahill has succeeded against the Buffalo Bills. And I think the Bills, you know, they haven't played in like two and a half weeks, it feels like, and everyone's just going to hail them as conquering heroes back at home.

Maybe there's going to be a little flying the ointment here in the shape of Ryan Tannahill. All right. How about you, Greg? You're going to love Ryan Tannel as the writer of QB Index. The more you're watching, we just feel like you realize he's so much better. I want to tell you about a boy in the city. Now, this boy grew up dreaming of Bill Parcells. You know, he loved Phil McConkey, Otis Anderson, Mark Bavarro.

And when this boy became an adult, he even worked his way up to be an assistant on the Giants under a Parcell's disciple. And this boy was Matt Roole. And yeah, sure he had a chance a year ago to go win in the Meadowlands and he lost 25 to 3. Sam Darno, you know, right? Sure, Sesse's dropped him like the coldest take ever since, but on Sunday he's gonna stride into that East Rutherford parking lot where he went to as a kid and he's gonna go win a football game

as a head coach in the NFL when Christian McCaffrey and DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson eat up this sorry giant secondary. And maybe he's not gonna make it through the year, and he's never going to be Bill Parcells, but he's going to have Sunday to look back on that forever, and that's all right. And Parcells' family doesn't even like him. Ouch.

42 and 46, still sticking to the ribs for Rosenthal. Let's see if it happens. I got, you know, what an atomic poop show for Russell Wilson last week. The way everything broke down, his team lost, the way things flamed out in the red zone, the way the game ended and disgrace against Seattle. Now Russell Wilson will have a huge week two. He'll be the best, like, most productive quarterback in football in week two.

And it will be one of those 320-yard four touchdown performances, maybe makes a play with his legs, completely destroys the Texans. And after all the hand-wringing and people upset, and rightfully so about the way. week one went and the coaching staff and Wilson's failures with the rest of the offense, all that will be wiped away with one dominant performance, Russell Wilson, hero of week two. You better.

You don't want to lose that game. No, you do not want to lose that game. All right. Now, that's it. Reminder, the round the NFL live show from London. Thursday, September 27th, tickets available at Ticketmaster. going fast hot cakes mark down prices you know what you want go get it join us it will be fun sunday flagship show be there for that thank you for listening watching being a part of the

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