NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Gatesville Messenger, Dak signs Tag, and Top 10 Announcing Duos

Episode Date: June 22, 2020

A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler are joined by Patrick Claybon to discuss all the latest news in the NFL including some more players being diagnosed with Covid-19, Dak signing his tag, and sucker punch stories of the past and present. Dan gets a big time call mid show from the Gatesville Messenger and Marc breaks down his top 10 announcing duos.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Around the NFL podcast. Welcome to the audition of The Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansens. I'm coming to you from a country filled with heroes in bunkers. Mark Sessler

Greg Rosethall and joining us again our old buddy oh I have that plant right behind him Patrick Claibon what's up boys hey damn

it's a nice plant yeah we're here on the on the old video stream that's the exact I don't know the name of that plant Patrick but that

we got two of them one died almost immediately and the other we've really been working with probably even more than we've been working with our own children to keep it alive

Yeah, that's about the survival. The survival rate is about one out of three for us. You know, you get it. And then the leaves start falling off. Of course, you know, a three-year-old destroys it. And he's just got to give up on a couple of them. You know, they're cheap. But they work.

Are we talking about the kids of the plan? I can't remember. Yes. Hey now. Happy belated Father's Day to everyone on this show today. And we all have two children each. Patrick just got into the. two-kid club right under the deadline.

Thank you. Great to be here. Everybody have a nice Father's Day weekend. What did you guys do? What did you get into? I did a little beach, did a little in and out. I feel like I'm really embracing SoCal life. After five or six years, I'm fully indoctrined. I don't want to go anywhere else. Another day in paradise, Greg Rosenthal.

That's not what I mean. This this offseason has been trying, but I'm happy to spend it in L.A. a place that I do love despite its fault. How about that? That about you, Mark. All right. Yeah, I thought it was, you know, I give my kids a lot of credit. They made cute little cards.

We had kind of the best day we could, mostly at home. And I thought it was enjoyable. I don't know if I embrace this version of L.A. life the way that my colleague, Greg, is. But I echo the thoughts. I would live in L.A. for a thousand years. current scenarios make that a little less doable than plans. Foreshadowing. How about you, Patrick?

Yeah, I mean, I think we could all take a little Greg Rosenthal in our lives with regards to how we approach situation, especially fatherhood. But, you know, it's kind of survive in advance with an incredibly active three-year-old and his baby sister who warrants a good amount of attention. You're in it right now. You're in the middle of it. It doesn't matter what day it is. you have like a three week old and a three year old forget about it but i did i did where is my

my gift uh he brought home on friday a football with uh number one dad on it so there you go it's been decided now it's official we can't take it away from me i had a little concerned about the overall polling of fathers apparently there's like seven to eight million number one dads out there i guarantee it's simply not the case there is probably a more realistic right somewhere out there. I know how to weed out all the guys that aren't the number one dads. It's the guys that walk around with the t-shirt saying they are the number one dad. That's true. What we were talking about last week, Greg?

It was like the guy that says, this is my team. When he's got to say it's my team, you know, it's not his team. I have that same flop to when it comes to the number one dad memorabilia. So you're like Mitchell Trubisky is walking around with number one dad a t-shirt in addition to in addition to the bears are my team. But if it's given to you as a gift. like that, Patrick. That does not disqualify you just to make that clear. You know, I had, I almost felt guilty. Like as Damashak would say, I was cheating life down here

in Texas. The wives, I have a very good friend, Jack Doyle, down here, who was married to Emily's cousin, Katie. And the two wives splurged and got us a pair of jet skis. And we went up and down the lake. And we had a great time. Then we came back to the house. And Emily's mother and Emily put together a shrimp oil, which if you have never had a shrimp oil, it's a great southern tradition where they basically cook up gabasa and potatoes and shrimp, obviously, onions, corn on the cob, and they just dump it on this table, and then everybody just feasts upon it.

And it's got a great Cajun-like flavor to it, all of it. So put it all together and hanging out, of course, with the children. It was great, too, and getting to do that. So I felt very lucky in what's been a very difficult year, I turned 40 this year to have 40 wiped out the way it was just like for Simone as well. It was like a 2020 celebration that actually lived up to the hype down here. So I am very thankful on this Monday. I'm unconvinced that you should or will return to Greg's Los Angeles because you've been down there for a week.

You've been the centerpiece of various news articles. You know, I was taking a look at that Gatesville Messenger and they just on Saturday morning, released a story that I thought I'd bring to attention. The headline, Demand High for Chicks this year, which I thought was going to go in one direction. This was released on Saturday morning at 5 a.m. Here's the lead here. Urban and rural chicken keeping has become increasingly popular

over the last several weeks, but the COVID-19 pandemic created a boom in demand that backlogged many local hatcheries. So another item for you to focus on damage, you've been playing basketball, your jet skiing, the wife is cooking shrimp, you know, boils. It sounds delightful. It's great.

Me and Bob Bates, my father-in-law, and our official beat reporter of Baylor Sports. We built a treehouse for the boys as well. We did that. And speaking of the Gatesville Messenger, another great headline, Mark, I don't know if you were looking at the same issue, but headline, coward wins scholarship.

It's the coward family. They're a dynasty family in Gatesville. Well, one of them tangled with Jesse James. Two story. All right. Here we go. And yes, I'm still waiting to hear back about my Gatesville Messenger fate. Hopefully that works out.

I'll have an update for you, hopefully later this week. Today's show with the great Patrick Claibon is a fun one. And Mark Zessler, thank you to you for continuing to churn out. And by the way, I would love to return to Greg's Los Angeles. It's the Los Angeles for everyone else, you know, that I don't. There's no. It's the Los Angeles. in my mind, you know? What's it that, you know, what are you trying to say? You're like Andy Dufrein and

Shawshank. Well, it's funny. They can't take away. They can't lock you away up here. I have listeners getting on me. It's like, well, you know, those COVID cases are going on. Maybe you shouldn't be hitting the beach so much. It's like, okay, first of all, we're hitting it at 9 a.m. That's about the safest place you can be. There's no one within 15 feet of us. We're outdoors. We're wearing a mask to and from, uh, yeah, back off. I'm happy that you're happy. I'm not. I mean, it's not all It's not all the same time. Greg's Los Angeles is more of a mindset than it is a locale or a zip code. It's not, you know, you're not driving to Greg Los Angeles.

You have to, you have to be invited. I did drive. There's no off ramp. Like Greg's L.A. is not an off ramp. I can't find the on ramp. It's kind of like an island in the sky. I did drive to downtown yesterday. I walked into a bookstore for the first time in three months, which was, you know, everyone, we had their masks and it was.

Awesome. But downtown is, um, it's in rough shape right now. It's not, it's just, it's just what I'm saying. Even in Greg's mind. Even in Greg's, even in Greg's. That is not a utopia, you're saying. It's all closed up. All right.

Well, Greg brought us down to Earth with that final comment, but he gives us the story from all angles. Okay, let's do some news. Happy, happy Father's Day to all the, wonderful fathers out there today. My prayer is today that you are appreciated and you are celebrated in the way that you want to be appreciated and celebrated. They need to stop taking you for granted. I always get up moralizing in the father's name.

I love Dion. I mean, Dion, first of all, he's a colleague. He's very close to us. He shows up. His backyard looks like basically he lives in his own state park. He's wearing a t-shirt that says, don't allow my confidence to offend your insecurities, and then a giant gold rope that says prime on it. And then Mark, he had more to say. He had 90 seconds on this. And I thought this one

connected with you, especially your mindset on a lot of things when it comes to marriage and fatherhood. Dion, keep going. Hey, ladies, I want y'all to really lift your man up and give him to love, respect, and honor and support and admiration that he deserves to date. It will give it one day. We don't give a one day. If you got to fake it, darn it, fake it. Just get him what he deserves. Are we inferring anything there?

I mean, I can report that I received that kind of attention and behavior and water and essentially what was a waterfall of good feelings yesterday. I could only imagine what it would have been like here if my main message for the day was stop taking me for granted.

It's like, I saw, like, the Lakeisha have wrote a beautiful message of what a great dad, you know, Chris has been, Chris Wesleyan early on. And I was thinking, like, what would it take? Like, if my wife put that message for me, I would think it was a joke. Well, I think it's a personality type. Yeah, I would live a whole. No, and that's one reason why I love my wife. You know, it's all everyone, different types or different, you know, it's like, I've never getting that message.

It's one of the things I love about Lekechia. Keisha and Wes, they're such a great couple. They're so open and just the way she is able to express their relationship in Wes as well. If you remember his iconic vows on the rooftop of the armory down there in Tybee Island, and we certainly miss Wes when we want him back here as soon as possible. All right, guys, let's get into the news. All right, we'll start. And we did a show, of course, late Thursday night.

and we talked about what Dr. Tony Fauci had to say, his thoughts on the NFL's ability to have a season. And this happened during a week last week where there were a lot of outbreaks across the country, but also it hit a lot of teams, both on the pro side across sports, Clemson football, and give you a little update where we are since then now. So the NFLPA has a recommended against its members working out together as the number of COVID-19 cases increases in, many states. As you've seen all across social media, players have been gathering, not even some players that are teammates, but just, you know, you'll see a bunch of high profile players

from different teams all gathering and just getting in the work, trying to do what they would have done under normal circumstances this time of year. In mini camps, just get some work. But now the advice from the PA, the union is to cease all of that. Also, the NFL sent out a memo that creates tiers of access and its facilities to manage the coronavirus. And it breaks down as a tier one, tier two, tier three employees. And it's all designed to, again, limit exposure, limit the chances, certain personnel or the need of personnel to get to places where they don't need to be that could cause. It's all trying to control what's happening right now in this world that we live in.

Mark Sessler. well i mean i i know you guys discussed on on last week's emergency pod which i apologize for um you know not being there at all not an emergency for you apparently well no it wasn't i did not not don't not ring into the emergency category you're busy you're busy father you know you're a father every day not just father's day that's right um but i you know i thought last week was and one of the reasons for that show among other large news items was really the first week that I thought that the sport of football was remarkably impact by C-19. I mean, that college football specifically, I think, put, you know, we were texting with

each other. I put a lot of alarm, an element of alarm into me of what be going forward, just, you know, pound ahead to September 10th, eyes on the prize, is a little bit disconcordant with what's happening around us. And so the NFL responded, I think, appropriately in terms of these practices. these workouts with these players get together, cut them off for now because we simply can't predict what the outcome will be. And the outcomes seem pretty grisly, even just after a little bit of that. The one thing I think gets a little lost in this, and then I'll leave it for you guys,

is that it's fine to point out that your average 23-year-old player could have corona and be asymptomatic, never know he had it, and life goes on as normal. That's largely statistically true for a lot of younger people that are vibrant. But, I mean, packed into any NFL team are probably 15 to 20 people that are in their 50s and 60s in some case 70s? So are you going to do, are you going to just march coaches out there of that age? I mean, there's just a lot more to consider that isn't even being discussed. And the one thing I'd say about the league is they seem to be eyeing a number of external factors in sports leagues to see how things continue by saying very little about what is actually being discussed behind the scenes at this point.

I would like to be a, we talk about the fly on the wall segment. I would like to know what they're actually saying about real life and how it is impacting something that used to be four months away. Now it is merely weeks away. If you want to continue this season, the way they've talked about, full start, week one, horse blinders on, roll ahead. And also are horse blinders on, though? I don't think a horse.

I think they're doing a lot of work that they need to do. do here and now they're trying to what we're seeing now is their action steps with and now whether it works or not because we know for john harbaugh as an example says the plan that they plan to put into place is going to be impossible does this tier system is that going to work uh mike florio pfti reported the league remains quote highly optimistic the 2020 season will go forward to schedule but there's less optimism uh existing now that fans will ever be present at any of the games if they are played, Patrick. Real quick, to me, that's been the line for three months.

That's when I talk about, like, just saying the same thing over and over. Actions are saying we're stripping practices away, we're stripping minicamps away, we're stripping everything else away. And we'd heard from David Tepper, I believe it was two months ago. I mean, time just kind of doesn't really exist during this whole thing. But he had said that he saw an opportunity with teams that had outdoor stadiums to have some fans in attendance. And I wonder, you know, as the days and weeks have gone on, if he changed that.

But it's kind of like the fluctuations of NFL policy are built in. Like we heard, after we heard from Dr. Fauci last week, Dr. Sills came out and said that the NFL's policies are going to reflect the current advice at the moment. And so if they do need to move to, say, a bubble plan or at least a plan where players and their families are isolated before. we even begin trying this, then that's something that they feel like they can implement and they can go to because, you know, every step of the way there have been changes as we learn more about this virus that we knew nothing about this time last year. And we don't know how players are going to recover. We don't know how Von Miller and his lungs are going to recover playing at high altitude, how that's going to be for players. Right. There's just so many

unknowns. And so all that we really can do is adjust to the unknowns as they come along, as they become known unknowns and we find out more about what we don't know, found out more about what we do know, but we just, there's no way to know right now. Right. That's why I, I'm not overly concerned about the public statements. Now, some are going to be more positive than others, but I think being like lacking some definition right now makes some sense to me. It's kind of like the school systems around us not putting out their plan for, you know, some parents are like freaked out that there's not any plan for, you know, mid-August, late August, school's coming back.

It's like make the plan when there's more information available because as we've seen in California, as we've opened up, you know, stores and the economy and everything, cases have slowly gone up. And there are other places that were in great shape that have NFL teams like Florida, you know, Miami, Arizona that were in good shape before. and now are in bad shape, you know, in really bad shape. So things are going to be changing all the time.

And I mean, I said it the other day. I'm not going to keep it. It's like it's a cut. It's a national problem. It's not an NFL problem. And the NBA is going to be dealing with it. MLB is going to be dealing with if they ever, like, agree to come back. I just think that the Bucks players, for instance, in all this reporting, by the way,

in terms of the tiers, that was from Adam Schefter. That wasn't, you know, officially out there yet. He also reported some Bucks players and coaches got it. You know, Texans in Cowboys we talked about last week, had it. And you just see this now across all sports. I mean, the numbers of the college football players are what's alarming. It's crazy to me. It's not just like a couple on each team.

It's like 20 plus per team. Tennis had like one event where they basically didn't care about any safety at all. You know, and it was in the Balkans, I believe, where there was very little coroner. and what happened to two top 25 players tested positive afterwards and they were just hanging out the whole time like in you know and that's and that's in a place where there's almost no coronavirus but people are coming from all over and that's what this is going to be like with the players too players are going to be coming from all over the country so there's just there's like so many things to think about that it's hard to expect one take away any any organization

to be able to handle or think about all do not trust anything occurring or coming out of the Balkans. Let's start right there. In the Florio report, which served as generally an update of where we are now compared to where the reporting and what his sources were telling him like a month ago was one source suggested

that the rash of positive tests among that Clemson team, where there were a ton of guys that tested positive for COVID, the exposure most likely happened in a weight room where the air is thick and the athletes are breathing heavily as they exert themselves. It's again, it's just like there's just a lot of theories out there,

But that's why this has to be the way it is and there's so much indecision and it's just we don't know. Then I'm sure the NFL will try to do things to avoid that type of situation in wait rooms. And that's part of the tearing that's reported out there as well. But buckle up. The NFL teams have a universal report date this year of July 28th. So I guess that makes sense as the next big benchmark. If you're curious and everybody is, does this season start on September 10th or whatever? is the date. Let's see what happens by the time we get to end of July and do these camp start in time.

Well, I would add one little, like, if you read Albert Breers, you know, Monday morning, Colin, like he talked about the fact that there are coaches out there and they're not, you know, going on the record with their name, but quotes from them saying, no, we're going to push back. Like, there are, there's a certain pocket of coaches that simply do not believe the season should start on September 10th based on where we are today. And so I just, I wonder if there's going to be, individual health concerns, there's individual risk taking here, depending on who you are. There's plenty of people in the NFL that have recovered from illnesses, cancer, that make them more concerned about what they're exposed to. I mean, the idea that you're going to get

100% buy-in is the next wave of this, I think. All right. Let's move on to some football matters. On this very show, we blasted to the sun. any storylines and reporting connected to Dak Prescott and his possible extension sounded like this. Sounded just like that. And we promised that we would hit the Prescott

news when there was real news to discuss. And it looks like we have something because Adam Schaefter reported that Dak Prescott is expected to sign his franchise tender. today Monday, the tender is worth 31.4 million. ESPN, ESPN's Edwarder also reported that Prescott's decision to sign the tender is not an indication that a long-term agreement is close, but we will see if they get the deal done. They have until July 15th to negotiate

a long-term deal. Otherwise, he will play on that one year, $31.4 million tag in 2020. And Greg, If they, at this point, the leverage continues to build for Prescott because if he plays under that, the Cowboys then either have to give him a deal next year or tag him again for almost $38 million, potentially, in 2021. Either way, Dax's doing well financially. We'll see if this actually leads to a long-term deal. Yeah, until July 15th is the key day. I'm confused actually what I can discuss because it has been blasted into the sun. But I know this doesn't make Claybone feel comfortable as a closet Cowboys fan. You know, he tries to keep this under the table.

I bring it up every once in a while. He gets invited. It's a lot of time ago. I don't understand. Greg likes to make jokes because he's funny. Just a wonderful man, Greg Rolenthal. But I haven't cared about the dogs cowboys in a real long time. Okay.

All right. Well, he grew up. You grew up a Cowboys fan. He grew up on. Well, my college classmate, DeMarcus Ware, was drafted by the Cowboys and Bill Parcells. And so I began to follow the team. And, uh, cheer, cheered on, uh, while he was there. Look how uncomfortable you made Claibon, Greg.

I mean, he's a guest. I'm, I'm extraordinarily comfortable. Making, making people uncomfortable is how I show affection, really. That's how I welcome you into the podcast. But, um, that's true. I mean, if we're concerned about my affinity for Cowboys fans, I could just torch them. Very. Now I'm a rookie could just, uh, go ahead and get rid of that.

If Cowboys fans like Dak Prescott Moore, who's been a spectacular quarterback for them and underpaid one since his rookie year, then we wouldn't be having this discussion because he would have been signed a long time ago. It's an indictment of them, as well as, you know, the people that are going to have to pay him now that they didn't pay him earlier.

And so that's their mistake. That's a great point. I haven't heard about the DAC thing. It is really weird to me that there's a split in Cowboys fans, whether they're pro DAC or not, which it does seem a little crazy, it seems a little crazy from the outside. Spoiled Brats is what they are.

It's happening in Philadelphia, too. I mean, there's been this weird split with Carson Wentz, and it's like two quarterbacks that I would be. If you didn't have a quarterback, I'd be happy with either one of those guys in a second. I mean, turn the clock back. Let's just turn the clock back to 2015. If I told you guys, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys would lead the NFL in passing and wouldn't get voted into the Pro Bowl, how would you react to that?

It doesn't make much sense. I'd blame Jerry Jones. In other semi-Cowboys news, Jet Safety Jamal Adams, we talked about it on the Thursday night show. He wants out and he wants an extension, either or he's listed eight teams that he want to be traded to, this from Rapsheet, without needing a new deal, even while he has demanded an extension from his current team, the Jets. Among those teams is the Dallas Cowboys.

And there was a little video clip that went viral over the weekend of Adams, who's a Texas native driving his SUV in Dallas, and a guy from the street called out, you know, come to the Dallas and he said, I'm trying to. So that's where we are in this situation. I guess I'm confused. Do you think he wants, in terms of clarity on this one, I would like to know if he wants just out of New York, straight up, or does he want the money from New York? If the Jets caved to his demands right now and offered him the deal that he

he wants, would he take it or is it to a situation now where he wouldn't take it and he wants out of town? That's the next part of this story and the story I'm really enjoying and how it will play out. I think he would take the money. I mean, if they offered him a truly market setting safety deal, I think that's the case. But I think both can be true. I think there's probably some sense that he also wants out. If, you know, if things were close to being equal, he likes the idea of maybe moving on, or else I don't think we would have heard all of this stuff coming from his agent last year in the first place. Ian, our guy, Rapsheet, said, the Jets' plan is to kind of hold tight. I mean, they're not planning to do anything. So that's, I think

it's going to be a lot of noise and not a lot of action in this one. I mean, Jane Slater, who, you know, I can't think of anyone that's put on more tedious storylines. It is a highly marketable team, but to deal with DAC in the middle of this offseason. Earns that money. drama. Well, I mean, she also covers it well. Reading, I mean, she basically tweeted this morning that there is now a trust issue between the Jamal Adams and the Jets, which is the first sign of, you know, they're not going to be together long. Now, I agree with Greg. If they threw out a ton of money, everyone will get real poetic and happy with each other real quick potentially. But I mean, it seems like anything that Jamal Adams or anyone of safety is doing right now is for money,

because you're not going to probably get this contract down the road. It's a tough position to get paid at. It reminds me a little bit of Earl Thomas, some shadings of that. But he's also from Dallas. And I think that that calling out to the guy with the phone, I think if you wanted say, what is Jamal Adams? What is he from like a heart level? Where would he like to be preferably? It would not be the Jets. If the Jets want to keep them there like Jets, teams like the Jets have to do, it's going to have to come through. They'll lose control at some point in a major contract. If they had made him the offer that he wanted, then we wouldn't be having the conversation. Right? The whole point that he's not happy is that he doesn't feel like they are going to offer him what he wants now.

And he doesn't feel like they're going to be willing to offer him what he wants or what he's worth when the time comes at the end of his rookie contract. And so it's like in terms of being happy, he wants to be compensated. I mean, he could like the facility. He could like the people around him. He could like the wait staff, the cafeteria people. But if he's not going to get paid what he would like to be paid for playing a game that's pretty violent, then why wouldn't he want to try to do that? that somewhere else. I get just a sucky scenario for Jets fans, because how many guys can you point to on the roster

over the last 10 years? You can say, this is a generational talent. This is who you buy the jersey of. And then he can't stop being, frankly, like, just a hyper nuisance. Like, just he's easily my top, in my top five most annoying athlete that I never want to hear from again right now. And it has nothing to do with the player. Did he float his own trade rumors last year?

Was that of his doing? I mean, the Jets picked up the phone. So, I mean, in terms of, like, the news cycle, I mean, that's coming from Florin Park. That wasn't necessarily. I also enjoyed that he livened up our Super Bowl hotel with like a Wednesday afternoon, you know, pool party while we were having a meeting. That doesn't happen. I mean, that's going to Dallas. He better learn.

how to run a pool party with more pizzazz than that one. He was barely, I mean, he, that was like, that thing got like a D minus in like an A plus setting. It was like 1130 a.m. on a Tuesday. I mean, we all remember the crowd or surrounding. That looked like a lot of fun to me. I could have found a way to enjoy the situation. I think that was one of the great all-time around the NFL moments in terms of

surrealness. Us four average bros just sitting at this table, pool side planning out some show as Jamal Adams and friends just went nuts about 50 yards away enjoying the highlight. Well, Erica's parents, Erica's parents wandering over to investigate the party. I gave them a lot of credit. They were, they went for it. And I love Erica's dad is like, Erica, come back on a second here.

Erica's dad who is, you know, the most New England person I've ever met right down to the, the shorts with the little wails on them. Yeah. Yeah. And those boat shoes and the collared shirt and the whole. the polo shirt and everything. Him just like wandering through the background of the Jamal Adams Pool Party is something,

not an image that will leave my mind soon. My dad was like, who is this guy? I'm going to go over there. It's like, oh my God, dad, please. Future Dallas Cowell's safety. I wonder how much from a macro standpoint on this, and I'm going to try to remove myself now as a Jets fan and all that. And just talk about the rookie wage scale,

which was negotiated and agreed upon in 2011, when they did the collective bargaining agreement. And if you are a superstar out of the gate, like a Jalen Ramsey, like a Patrick Mahomes, like a Christian McCaffrey, like a Jamal Adams, the wage scale, which, Greg, you're, you're better at this with the details and the history of it than I was. But in the old days, if you were a top flight rookie or a first round pick, you got a huge contract and you were making a lot up more than established NFL guys. And this rectified it on a large level

because now these guys were locked into contracts and the money was not that big until you got to the 50-year option as a first-round pick. Are we now seeing, as time goes on, that that system is just not going to work because these guys understand that they've greatly outplayed this contract that is locked in and is that potentially down the road?

I guess the CBA has already agreed to. I guess it's not something that was brought up. But I'm just curious how much of that down the road or right now is becoming a bigger and bigger issue in the NFL. No, it was a problem for the players, and they have changed it. I mean, probably, I don't think they changed it enough, but Jamal Adams is still on this old CBA. I think the rookies, ultimately, they went too far in the other direction. Right. That now these rookie contracts are, they're too undervalued.

Now, they did make a pretty big change where the fifth year option for the first round picks is more about your performance. So it's not slotted based on if you were taken 24th or you were taking 5th. It's more about how many Pro Bowls you made, which gets a little hazy too and some performance structures. And so we'll see that change. I think next year, actually. This might be the last year that the players are kind of in the old system, unless Claibon, you wanted to correct me there.

But even then with the changes in the Pro Bowls, I don't think it's, I don't think it's, I don't think they went far enough, and I think similar issues are basically going to happen anyways. Yeah, we kind of tend to... No, I was just going to say, we treat those sometimes like unintended consequences. I think, you know, the system was performing exactly as it was designed. Right. That was the plan. That was the plan to help teams keep these superstars, basically.

And the fifth year option is not a killer, but, you know, for a player like Jamal Adams, it does make that free agency seem a little too. far away. In other news, the statue of former Redskins owner George Preston Marshall was removed from outside RFK Stadium on Friday morning. Events, D.C., and this is an important distinction, Events D.C. is in charge of RFK Stadium. They removed the statute. The Redskins play now at FedEx Field over and Landover in a whole different area, a different state,

and they had nothing to do with this. But the Vince D.C. decided to take down the statue. And George Preston Marshall, if you're not aware, he was the founding owner of the Redskins. They were the Boston Braves originally. And then he changed them to the Redskins. They moved to D.C., which is where the guy was from. And he is to use modern parlance, a problematic figure. He was the last owner to integrate players and allow black players to join his team.

In fact, Patrick, he was so. He was so dug in under this. He had a famous quote that I'll have a black player on my team when the Harlem Globetrotters have a white player on their team. And it was only when he got to DC and the RFK Stadium lease potentially would have been voided if he didn't integrate that. He went ahead and the team started allowing black players on the team. So his statue, he gone.

Yeah, whenever you have a racism section on your Wikipedia, people should probably look out for your statue in our current climate, as people like to say, where I guess there's a large population out there that is willing to take up their issues with white supremacy with people who have statues. And so, yeah, if you got a racism section, you might want to watch out. I mean, it goes on a few levels. They're also replacing his name, which was inside the state. sort of on a ring of honor type of deal that the team is removing that and replacing it with

with bobby mitchell who was the first black player to play for the redskins and was a great player it was actually they only got him in a trade because the first black player they drafted ernie davis said i'm not playing for that s i'm not playing for george preston marshall and they ended up you know they ended up getting bobby mitchell so he's dug in and you know it brings up you know, a topic that's been brought up a lot more lately, which is, you know, will the team change their name? And he is the guy who named their team, you know, and I think that you have to consider that context in the idea of this team name, which, you know, we've battled about on this show, it was like five years ago, I feel like, was the last time we talked about

it. But I think it's rightly getting some momentum to change the team name again, too. Well, I mean, you know, and that starts with the owner right there. I mean, who came out strongly, grew up a fan of the team and strongly, at that time, at least, wanted to stick with it. You haven't heard much buzz otherwise. The idea that this statue removed individual went 16 years before adding an African-American player to his team, 16 years, that everything he experienced in life and how our country changed, he was unsuade by. that tells me all I need to know about whether or not. Bobby Kennedy got involved. He like, they, they issued an ultimatum. The only reason they did it is because the government issued an ultimatum said, you're not getting our tax money or whatever it was or tax breaks unless you do.

It had to do with the RFK stadium, which at the time, it was D.C. Stadium, but it was owned federally. It was a federally owned piece of land that it sat on. And that, that spurred the action more than anything else. And that's why I said at the beginning of this, it is, important to note that the Redskins didn't pull down that statue is that it was the landowner of RFK Stadium so to connect the dots there and say that okay they took down the statue of the Redskins what's coming next well that doesn't necessarily right there are no dots that's the problem right um all right moving on oh Dallas Goddard got in a bar a sucker punch while at a dimly lit

and there was video that went out run around at social media because everything is on video now and it was an incident at a South Dakota bar he was kind of in a verbal you couldn't really tell whether he was in a verbal confrontation

with another guy or he was trying to talk down a guy calm down a guy it wasn't really clear but what was clear was that hang on I got a call from Texas hang on this could be the Gatesville Messenger Oh pick it up

please be hello be on speaker phone yes this mark gets some a dateful messenger hey what's up mark are you there oh no

are you there are you there mark all right I lost them you might but that's a great sign I've experienced some weird feedback issues. I've noticed if there's a speakerphone with the, with the mic.

I have experienced that. I mean, overall, a positive sign, though. I mean, he's not calling to ask if you subscribe to the paper while you're here for two weeks. Oh, this is huge. This is exciting. All right. He's calling back. It almost feels staged.

It almost is, but it is not. Hang on one second. Dan Hansis. Yes, Mark, it's from the Gatesville Messenger. Hey, Mark, what's up? Sorry, I got disconnected there. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm pretty good.

I've got to note that you're going to be doing a podcast from Gatesful this Friday. I am. Yes, I'm very excited. It's actually where it's our NFL network show, around the NFL show, and I'll be doing my portion of the program from John Ward's office, which we're very excited about. John Ward? Of his insurance company right there.

on the main street area there. Okay. What time are you going to be there? I have to figure out the timing on it, but it will probably be in the early afternoon window, like 12 to 3 in that zone. I could get back to you with, like, details once I have it hammered out. Yeah, that's fine.

I mean, I might come over there and maybe try to get a photo of you when you're in town. Get a photo. That's good. Excellent. Are you still there? I mean, it sounds like the makings of a vibrant Q&A, if nothing else. I think that's what we're on fire right now. The listeners right now, imagine the scene of Wolf of Wall Street as Leo's on the phone trying to coax someone in to buy a penny stock.

and Dan's Dan's looking at all of us putting his fists in the air like selling it like as he's talking like oh my God I like he mentions a note was put on his desk

I wonder you know I just wonder who wrote the note where it's coming from they're just you know there's probably a story on the story itself at some point here

if he calls back I'm gonna have to jump away because I think there is some type of connection issue but all right that's huge and the photographer

he's sending a photographer over or it's him I think he's just gonna take the picture. Yeah. I don't think they're outsourcing that. I know I'm not in your L.A. Narnia, Greg, but don't try to take this moment away. They fired all the talk about here, too.

I got an interview, and now all I need is the front page. You know, I've been exploring the Gatesville Messenger, and I feel like if you can't get the front page, it would be time for some soul searching. There is, while there are a couple hot take farming updates. You know what, that's bad, too, because you're trying to set it up. Like, if I don't get it, it'll be something to somehow attack me for. No, it would take away. But you also said you weren't going to do it unless you got the requirement.

Right, you've mentioned this yourself. That was you putting that out there. You know, envy is an ugly look on both of you guys. I got to tell you something. I, you know, after scaling a paper, I'm not sure envious is where I'm coming from. You know what the worst part of it is? I feel I could sense you guys rooting for me not to be on the front page, which I know all the listeners want me on the front page.

I want you on the same thing for you guys. It means something bad didn't happen, right? If you get on the front page and everything was good in Gatesville. All right, I got to call this guy back real quick. All right, I just got to call this guy back real quick. All right, I just got off. the phone, uh, with the guy from the Gatesville messenger. I'm very excited, uh, but let's, I'll tell you guys more about it later.

Let's continue to do the news because we only have a finite amount of time with the great Patrick Claibound, who's going to be on NFL network as he is always. He's back from paternity leave and rocking it. You're doing the NFL now, right? Just all the time now, right? Uh, yeah, just the, uh, the updates, the old school, the girl that brought me. man. All right, let me get into this. So the Dallas got it, the very good Eagles tight end.

He got sucker punched at a South Dakota bar and security video, which was floating around the web at the zoo bar in Aberdeen. It's a blow that he got hit. And as soon as by the time he got to the ground, he was already out, a nasty shot. Apparently he's doing well and that's good. And there was an arrest made in connection with this incident. Terrible. I am curious, guys, have you ever been in an altercation like this?

Have you ever been sucker punched? Have you ever been in a bar brawl? I'm just curious. Been in one bar brawl, did not play an active role. Was sucker punched in the year 1998 on a sidewalk in Boulder at about 121 in the morning by kind of a, it was a truly drunk and crazy 20-something rushing up the boardwalk. and his friend was trying to control him. And I was barely paying attention.

But I was sitting on, you know, a little stone sidewalk thing. And the guy just, like, leveled me with a right hook just as my friend, Kiwi was picking me up. And we, I got right in the car and we rushed off. What? Hanging with a guy's name Kiwi. It sounds like trouble. Well, his name is John. He was from New Zealand.

But, you know, if he not arrived, I'm not sure it would have happened to me. I mean, I couldn't see out of my right eye for, like, the first 10 minutes after you look great i was about eight years old and i was fishing on a golf course uh in birmingham alabama and somebody came behind me and pushed me in randomly and ran off um i got back out ever since then i've kept my head on a swivel from uh with regards to people and so i i have not been hit i have not been hit i have struck people but i have never been hit since i was eight years old but you have struck people have you have you suck people have you punch someone no they're always looking okay good good you don't seem like a sucker punch guy so

that would have been surprising what about you gregg you know no no du lane get loose it was in hockey fights but that never counted usually you know had your gloves on you were like nine years old and stuff i played some hockey when i was kid but uh i was you know i've told this story on i've been on the outskirts of many fights but i never i've never jumped into the fray and i did go you know to orleans paris prison for a night uh for being kind of on the outskirts of a fight. But all truth, I neither received nor delivered a punch, which probably doesn't shock you. I wish Wes was here because he'd have some great stories. Yeah, he would. I've avoided being involved with fights for the most part. I had one scary

incident when I was, it was also on a sidewalk outside of Bar-Marc. I was with a girl. And we had never, our relationship was kind of in a weird place and we had never been outwardly, showing signs of being a couple. But in this one instance, we were holding hands and walking up the sidewalk. And at that moment, I didn't even see it coming. Someone, because we were walking up the sidewalk, I still remember exactly where it was.

It was Main Street in Nyack, New York. And someone going down the street will full force push me in the chest at such a level of power that it threw me, and I'm not a little guy, threw me into the street, off the sidewalk, into the street. And I don't even know where it came from. and I look up and I'm looking around and it's this giant dude and then three or four of his friends and the giant dude is screaming at the girl I was with because she broke up with him and I guess

I was the first boyfriend or something since and he was so enraged just seeing me holding her hand and I thought that was it I thought I was going to get beaten to death like like a soprano scene unfortunately the girl I was with basically screaming at him what are you doing why are you doing this and then his buddies who had a choice to make in that one moment and it turned out to be a key thing in my life they could have stopped me into into unconsciousness or they could have kind of gotten behind what the girl was saying and got the guy out of there that's what happened otherwise I would have been dead these guys are all big head heads I will never forget it's the closest I ever came to getting an ass whooping and I hope to never be in that situation and I hope my sons

are never in that situation because my whole life was a coin flip at that point. who yikes it was a sucker push is what it was yeah so i flip flop i jumped up and i was like hey what's going on i did the old like hey what's up with this but i knew i was dead the guy one-on-one would have taken me out and he had three of his like meathead buddies anyway well that's like when you look at the dallas goddard hit well i mean it was the punch like was messed up through the air it was insane i don't know what was going on in that bar beforehand or um who i know in south South Dakota, no one's wearing a mask, apparently, but they were all swilling beers and having a good old time.

When they say he was there with his family, I don't know. I didn't see moms and aunts there, but I don't know what family members. It was. We'll wait for more tape. Hey, Patrick, you're not, your uncle is married to your aunt.

Okay. We have another aunt person. Thank you. Thank you, Patrick. I'm an aunt person, too. Damn. look at me look at me in trouble on the ropes again get another push right to the center of the chest into the street the old zeuser patrick claibon we wish you could stand for the whole show

but we really did dilly dally today and then we got that huge news from the messenger which further threw us off schedule so uh we wish you had you for the whole show but we'll take what we had today which was the news and you brought it as always you said it all i appreciate it guys appreciate you all have good one before we say goodbye i'm going to tell at least our listeners Claibon can leave, but they should check out the video that he posted over the weekend. He's an editor now, too. I don't know if you guys saw that on Twitter. No, tell me more.

Like a 10-minute video. He said a lot of people have been asking for his thoughts over the last couple weeks over, and then in his words, you know, about what's happened the last couple weeks and 500 years. And he edited a video all voiced and written by him. It's about 10 minutes long. I think he has it put it on YouTube. It's on Twitter, too. It's worth checking out.

All right. Make sure you check that out. I would be checking that out. All right. There goes, Patrick. That's what's happening in the news. Oh, I will never forget that. It was like the force of the earth had crashed into my chest.

I think it's good to go through something like that, though. I mean, you don't want to suffer permanent peril, but, you know, shake you, shake the cobwebs out a little bit, as the old football coach used to say. I could have used the Kiwi in that situation. Ricky, you ever get mixed up in some type of girl fight or guy fight? Never a girl fight, but I did get punched in the head by a dude at a frat party once. Intentionally? But it was sucker punch. It was like we were going into the frat because one of my friends was in the frat.

So we would skip the line and like all the girls and they're like little skirts out in the winter like trying to get in. We'd just like walk right by them to get in. And then these two dudes tried to like jump in. in with us to come in and then two of the frat dudes were like hey bro like you're not with them and then all of a sudden one of them swung over me and one of my friend and the next thing i know there was like 10 frat guys in this little boyer and i like got like slammed in the head and i was like how did i just get punched like going to my friend's room but i did dan you notice that um gregg says nothing because he was in a frat and he's like that's just the life like you know

you're living that frat life back then i wasn't in one so i couldn't in one so i could couldn't tell you what goes gone behind closed doors, but Greg knows. That's the cost of doing business, isn't it, Greg? That would never, it would never occur. That's, that's shameful. Yes. All right. Let's move on.

Greg, Mark Sessler wrote a banger. It's not yet up on the website, but I'm sure if you, if you're listening to this on Tuesday, as opposed to the original taping date of Monday, it should be up on the old.com. It is your favorite broadcast. team of all time, and that's a good one, Mark, and I read the copy, and I could tell, I could always tell Mark with you and your writing. So you're such a gifted writer, but beyond just your ability to string together sentences and put pages out, as the great Dave Damasek would say, I could tell when you're passionate about what you're writing about. In this case, I could

feel it. You're into this assignment, which makes for an excellent piece. Well, I mean, I think you guys, I don't, we've never really talked about this, but half our job, or a part of our job is writing. And like, I felt like a little guilty almost this offseason because we've all been doing a lot of writing, but I just have not, I feel like writing with kids around. And there's this thing that I see on YouTube and it's this like acclaimed writer. I don't know who it is because I never track it close up. And he says, the key to writing is avoiding interruptions. And we're writing during a time when you're getting interrupted like every four or five seconds by a small person or someone in your house needing something. And so stringing together these articles have

has been a chore. This is the one that I asked for the rare like one day extension on because I wanted to not, I felt at one point I just felt like I had not, I had hit like C minus territory. And I'm not saying it's risen above that, but like you ever just need an extra day to put a little bit more of yourself into something. And so I turn it in feeling like this is one of the few that I care about the topic. I know you guys care about. I've never talked to people about announcers more than with you two and West than anyone. So I know you care about it too. And I'm, I

this is my list. I would love to hear guys that maybe are on here or not that you like to. Hmm. Well, yeah, where do you want to start on this, Mark? Because you listed what was the list? What was the number of teams you have here? So it's 10 duos and it's not, you know, I always have to make it like

clear in like a billion size bolded font. It is not my list of the 10 best. It's a couple on here totally different. But I'll start was somewhere that maybe goes a little bit when I got into football in like 86, 87, really deep into it, maybe a little bit before your time. But you certainly know these guys,

because they were around. Don Cricky and Bob Trumpy to me, to me, they were the voices of the old AFC Central. And I mean, they covered the AFC exclusively for NBC back when they had that, that was their deal in their conference. And I just think that Don Cricky, when I was starting to fall in love with the idea of broadcasting And I was like the nerd that would walk around with like in my wallet, like, you know,

pro set put out these football cards that branched into all sorts of things. And they had announcer cards. And I would just like have announcer cards in my wallet because I thought this is what I want to do. But I would take the old VCR and tape Cricky and Trumpies announcing a Browns games and Bengals games and all sorts of stuff from the AFC. And I thought that Cricky, who was a announced football for 47 consecutive years from 67 to 2013 is one of the more unheralded play-by-play guys out there because he wasn't I you know what I cannot stand is the robotic play-by-play guy that has zero personality and

I think because some of the schools churning these people out you get a lot of that they're technically proficient but there's nothing behind the robotic perfect voice cricky brought that and he and Trumpy were a perfect pair and I think west would have a lot to say on this because Trump he's the old cincy guy from the Bengals he he he he He had incredible Bengals knowledge. And Trumpy just would get on these, he would get very agitated during games. He would see something the team was doing

that they didn't correct at halftime. And, you know, he didn't just go in with one of these, I've got four or five points I want to make about the Jets. And no matter what happens in the game, that's the points I'm going to make. He would let the game wind on and get super charged up about what he was seen on the field and maximize back then pre-snap replays and stuff

to make, I would really learn from these two guys and I'd go back and watch their broadcast over and over and they had a huge impression on me on what a duo meant when you had two people announcing where they fit together and you couldn't imagine them with anyone else. Cricky is one of those guys.

I almost feel bad that and this is, it's unfair that sometimes you remember the end of the career. And you're right, those days thinking back that that AFC, I love the C, PBS package in general back then.

But I remember Cricky mostly from when I started covering the league, which is, you know, O3. And like you said, he had done it for 47 years. And that's unfortunate because he was like an all-time great. And that's the reason why you can only stick around for 50 years if you're an all-time great. It's kind of like Dick Stockton, who occasionally have gotten on, you know, on our podcast or whatever.

But it's like the only reason he's still on after 50 years probably past when he really should be to be honest, is because he was so good and because he has made a fan of so many people inside and outside of broadcasting. You have Al Michaels, of course, who I still think is the best there is. And he's with Chris Collinsworth on NBC now, of course, and Michelle Tafoya also as a part of the broadcast. He's been doing this for so long that you could pick different errors of Al Michaels, and you do have that in your piece. You have the Collinsworth Michaels team, but also the Michael's Gifford and Dan Dierdorf era, which is really kind of in the prime of my youth watching football. Hey, Ricky, do you have the Brian Bosworth play when Bo ran him over on Monday night football?

And if you're in Seattle, you can't wait until he leaves. Third and one from the two, here's Bo. And here goes, Bo for the touchdown. He and Bosworth, one-on-one, and he and Boisworth. It's one-on-one, and Jackson just jumps them into the end zone. I suggest that handicapped of 18. How about 20 pounds? I like that.

It's kind of understated, but also that reverberated that moment, especially when we were dealing with like a true monoculture, and everyone is watching the same broadcast, and there's no Twitter, and people are just plugged in. To see Bosworth get tuned up like that, Michael's call will always be synonymous with Bo Jackson ruling the world in that moment. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that the clip, and I don't mean to be overly harsh here, but that the clip included Michaels, who is the best at play-by-play, and Gifford, who, you know,

people were hot and cold on Gifford, but Gifford, to me, brought this, I wouldn't have used the word then, but regality to the role. He was just sort of football history right there in front of you. And he did Monday Night Football with so many different teams. I mean, None of us saw in real time, him working with CoSell. But there are a lot of stories about when they got CoSell and Don Meredith out of the booth, that when it was Michael's and Gifford together, the Gifford could kind of breathe and it wasn't so much conducting a circus. But Deirdorf rubbed me the wrong way.

And it's funny that I would have the same opinion of him then that I do now, that I think he was a good person. And like there's nothing about, I don't know anything about him personally, but the humor to me was clunky and basic from Deerdorf. And he often just got on my nerves. And I think that's like, to me, chemistry is kind of rings through each of my picks here. Gifford and Michael's had it. Dierdorf was fine and he did things well.

But there were oftentimes when I wondered why the three-man booth had to exist. That I think they're very challenging. And unless you've knocked the three-man booth out of the park, it can be problematic. In this case, two of the three were perfect to me. Right. The three-man booths with like Buck, Aikman and Collins, I actually really like that booth for the most part, Collinsworth and Aikman together.

But it's like ultimately they're both better apart. I always like kind of the early Collinsworth. You know, his track, I think he was with NBC at one. He moved around. He was NBC and then Fox and then back to NBC. He was always one of my favorites. And then it's hard to not have these convos without talking Madden and Summerall. Because to me, that was it.

I mean, it's not just, you know, Summerall in the style. But it was the love of the game that Madden and his enthusiasm that he had that to me is the best part of any announcer. You got to have the knowledge, but you have to have the love. And that's why Romo reminds me so much of John Madden. It's like I read all of John Madden's books as like a 10-year-old. Just because John Madden seemed like so enthusiastic and so understandable that he made you love the sport like as much as he did. And I love announcers, even if they're not like the cleanest or. Even if they lack a little knowledge, you can make up for it with like enthusiasm and love for the game.

They were a unique team, too, when you think about it. And maybe you guys can point one out that I'm missing. But Summerall was an NFL great in his own right. He played in the league. And he was the play-by-play guy. So you had a play-by-play guy in Summerall who went back years as a player and lived and breathed the sport. Madden, obviously, one of the great coach. which is of all time and had that giff or gab.

And you said that chemistry, it's all about chemistry. Everything's about chemistry, whether you're talking about in the booth, doing a podcast, a radio show, and so many things in life. But especially in this business. And I always think about I'll never not get a kick out of the little inside joke that Summerall and Madden had between themselves about the CBS program murder she wrote. that had a comma after murder. And then Summerall always just love to put an extra pause in there to represent the comma.

And he did it for nobody else, but for Madden because there were two buddies who just, it was like we have that on our show, a bunch of inside jokes that sometimes bubble up on the service in the broadcast. And sometimes they don't. But let's listen a little bit because I love hearing Summerall doing his murder, she wrote. 60 minutes will be coming up following football, followed by murder. she wrote. We would have bets on how long it's going to be

between murder and she and it got longer and longer. Then it's murder. She wrote. I love it. I think, you know, like... Well, one thing I was going to say that, I mean, can you, if someone

said to you just at any moment, in your head, think about the voice of Pat Summerall, you could do it, And another guy that I think of that that I put on the list because I think radio is such a different chore. And one of the reasons that, you know, we can play that Bo Jackson call. And you're kind of thinking there could have been more there because it's television and you're watching the images. But I have memories, and I'm sure you guys do, of like just driving around with my dad and listening to Jack Buck, father of Joe Buck. And he was teen with Hank Stram, who my memory of Hank Stram was a little less defined, but they were excellent partners.

and anyone who's ever worked with Jack Buck talks about the fact that Jack Buck, on top of being, like, literally maybe the best sports broadcaster ever, would work effort, like, tirelessly to make his partner look good, that he was the perfect partner. But his voice, and, like, I mean, I just remember driving around, you know, in the old days, listening to him announced like a Giants Packers game, and it became the kind of thing where it's along the point of murder, she wrote, that I loved his ad reads as much as anything else.

Just this iconic voice reading, you know, a copy for a can of like Campbell's Soup. But then I know, and Ricky, I think we had this call too. He could do the football thing too. Here is what happened when the bills encountered the Giants in Super Bowl 25. Norwood. As soon as the position.

Linger waits to step it. we wait there's a snap there's a kick it is up it is no good no one missed four seconds left the giants have won super ball 25 by the score of 20 to 19 yeah he and he's like and his son is followed in his footsteps i i have so much respect for guys that do different sports because it's become more and more specialized just like the NFL you've become more and more specialized as a player the you don't see announcers that cross over jack buck has he's the voice of the cardinals uh he was a legend he called kirk kirk gipson's home run in the 88 world series he had the azie smith uh touch him all as you'll never hit a bigger home run than that or whatever the

exact quote was but he is a guy that spanned across the sports and they to me i i have no i can't have a higher level of respect in that industry for the guy that can do it both ways like joe like his son joe who doesn't get enough love, and you have him on the list here with Troy Aikman, and his ability to seamlessly go between baseball and football, and I think he even does some golf now. I'm not sure. But he's like one of those rare dudes, too.

He deserves more respect, Buck. Yeah, that reminds me at Kevin Harlan, too. I cheating, and, you know, we all love Kevin Harlan, and I cheated and looked at some old broadcast teams. I got to remember, I don't totally remember the Kevin Harlan, Jerry Glanfield number three team on Fox for like five years, but that sounds amazing. Like I probably wasn't getting those games, you know,

because we didn't have direct TV. But like that's how long that Kevin Harlan's been doing it and he can go. And I think basketball might even be his best sported. That's how good he is. But that's like a memorable team. The other one that I wanted to hear you talk about. Who else do you want to talk about actually while we're running out of time?

No, no. Who do you want? Who do you want to bring up? They can read the article. Ron Pitts was like this one guy I always really liked, and I always liked that Dr. Z got it. He was kind of like almost the Mike Mayock of his day, who was super tape nerdy. And like as just like a young fan, like he had like the fourth or fifth team, but sometimes he'd have the Patriots games when he was on, you know, the NFC. I don't know. It's your column. It's your column. Well, I mean, I like the Ron Pitts. That's a nice callback. The last group, because I pained over writing like the Joe Buck, Troy Aikman thing, because I don't like sit around during broadcasts and like fire off tweets destroying these people. Just because I remember I had this memory of the first high school at a television station that aired on like this lost cable channel out in the middle, you know, 12 people were watching it. But they had me announce gymnastics as my first ever. assignment and like um i you know waited at the bus stop with this girl named christine leperati who was a gymnast and i was like hey i got to announce like your meet tonight um how long is it

and what i've never watched gymnastics and she's like you're in a lot of trouble like uh it's a lot of downtime it's about four and a half hours long and i don't have time before the bus arrives to explain everything that we do and like it was a four-hour horror show i mean that reduced me to like Like, girl, look at that girl jumping over that piece of plastic. She did a very nice job with that. And there's parents sitting around thinking, who is the freak sitting over there, putting this on tape? Point being, I think it just embedded in me this.

I'm not going to go out and kill announcers left and right. I don't get the hate for, I can see that Joe Buck might rub people a few, a few people the wrong way. Back in the day, I think the tide has turned, yeah. I mean, just think that to Dan's point, like the idea that you're announcing, like the biggest bill's football game that's hot in the middle of like late october then the next day you're announcing world series like i don't know he announces first NFL game at 25 well i was getting sucker punched in boulder on the street at 25 so i have admiration for the fact that like

yes there is an element of nepotism that he's going to always have to answer for but he's not like talentless he is extremely technically good and so i kind of wanted to stick up for that team because Aikman I just like having in my life from a football sense, too. So, you know, the haters, go find something else to do. Matt Mellon was the guy. Ooh, I love it. Matt Mellon was the guy I was trying to think of. I love the fact that he would get the top game a lot of times at 1 p.m.

And then it'd be mad in Summerall. And even though I was like an AFC guy, it was Millen in Stockton. And Millen is an all-time great broadcast. He really is. And so now he's doing college and, like, he's healthy again. It's too bad people kind of remember him as the G. when he was like an incredible player who was documented in some incredible books too by George Plimpton and an incredible broadcaster.

It's like that that's what he should be remembered for. All right. And let me just clean it up because I don't want to get tweets after the show. Jack Buck, Ozzie Smith home run to clinch the NLCS in 85. Go crazy. That was his famous line in that. And then Joe Carter when he had the walk off in the World Series for the Blue Jays, touch them all, Joe.

you'll never hit a bigger home run. All right. Good stuff. Check it out. The Mark Sessler right up on his favorite announcing teams. And before we go, you know what we got to do. It's that time again to spin the wheel and find out which organization gets the old wheel of teams treatment. Erica, it is that time again.

So give us a spin of the wheel. There we go. Be fun. There we go. Oh, it's the Minnesota Vikings. The playoff team from a year ago, no shortage of interesting storylines around the Vikings who are all in and looking to get back to the Super Bowl for the first time since, God, 1973, something around there, early 70s.

It had to be mid-70s, maybe. Yeah, there's a lot to break down there. So we will put our heads together after the show and figure out who would be a great person and to converse with on the Vikings. So check that out on Wednesday show. And we dive deep on the Vikings and our continuing Wheel of Team series. All right.

What do we learn today? We learned that I'm going to be in the Messenger. That's huge. God, that's a first in the podcast. Got the phone call. We learned in real time. Don't think that was a setup. That was completely a authentic moment there.

And we'll see if that gets me the front cover. But it sounds like at the very least, I'm getting inside the pages of the message. which is a dream in itself. It's just interesting because you said you wouldn't do it, but you did not bring that up to them, that you wouldn't do it unless that was one of your, you said demand, like requirements to do it.

You are getting a photo, though. That's big. The photo's big. Yeah, I need to. It certainly seems to be trending in the right direction, and I have to find a way in a somewhat delicate manner to find out about the front page. If you had done that on the podcast,

that would have been one of my all-time favorite. I mean, I think the content, will suggest to the editorial staff of the Gainesville Messenger that you don't put this on B2 if there is even a B section to that paper. I mean, you put it front and center of that eight-page newspaper and you don't put it anywhere else.

You got to deliver. I mean, you've been on the other side of it as a reporter sometimes in smaller papers. You need that subject to give you some gold. Guess what I got, though, in the holster. I got the six-shooter on the steel horse and I got to change the slogan of the town to the spur capital of the world.

That's like if you need a pull quote, if you want a front page headline, you got this outsider, this cowboy coming from another town, another dusty highway. And I'm spitting that truth at them and making them change the way they think. I think that could be my ticket to the front page.

I mean, you're a Hyde Piper figure. And I could only imagine you like after the interview or after the papers released and people have digested the Q&A, you know, just walting into the local tavern and just everyone doing one of the standing, emotional sort of standing ovations, dead poet society type thing where you've brought, you've shined a light where it's been needed. Could be met with pushback, too, though.

Or hopefully you will. Could be met with pushback. I could be, I could be vilified for it. The young will hear in your message. The young will, they will, it will resonate with the young. All right. So that's coming up on Friday. on the same day that we are, of course,

bringing back the around the NFL broadcast on NFL network. So check that out, 6 p.m. Eastern, 3 p.m. Pacific. All right. That's it. This is Dan Hansa signing off for Patrick Claibon. Big ups to Claibon. Check out his video that he put together. The sizzler.

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