NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Go Get My Lunch 2017

Episode Date: September 6, 2017

A room filled with heroes Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler, Colleen Wolfe, & Gregg Rosenthal,– recap all the latest news from around the NFL including Hurricane Irma watch, the Colts trading Dorsett for Brissett, and Andrew Luck out for week one.  In this special show, the heroes give you their predications for 2017 in a fan favorite game, Go Get My Lunch!Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dan finally getting that hair sponsorship he's been Angling for. Not the one he expected. We're going. Yeah, I love me some head and shoulders. I think I got some in the shower right now. Same here. I use it periodically. I think John Gonzalez does too.

So, like, great. John Gonzalez? Yeah. That guy. NFL media broadcaster, Colleen Wolf, John, who's Pisces resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Six years with him. I have to tell you, by the way.

Congratulations. Thanks. Your wedding anniversary. It was yesterday. What a moment. You did it. Yeah. Happy anniversary to me.

Nice. Congratulations. I'm really like the show's off the rails. All right. Sorry. Back to the show. All right. So Colleen's sixth anniversary happened.

But also happening this week is the start of the 2017 NFL regular season. Rejoice. The season is upon us. And you know what? We're so excited. to get into everything around it this week. Let's lay out the week real quick. Today, first, this is a very special edition of the around the NFL podcast.

Whoa. A very special around the NFL podcast. Because you know what it is. It's like when we tell our parents were pregnant or something? Does that happen to you? Everybody simmer down. Everybody's a little, I think it's exciting. I said it sounded like an after-school special.

It'll be a little overly bubbly. Week one. Go get my lunch. You turd. Oh, yeah, we're doing our regular season prop wagers with sandwiches on the line. Tasty sandwiches. How exciting is that? Also, ooh, how fun is this?

We will make our MVP picks. And we'll roll that into the sandwich process. But each of us will pick our MVP for the 2017 season. And you might be surprised who we select. Probably not. It's probably going to be very basic choices. Low level of surprise. I'd imagine for yourself.

Mine could not be more. down the middle and boring. And of course, there is the opening game of the season on Thursday. Chiefs at Patriots, Bloodbath. We will preview that game. We'll take a trip to the throne of ease,

which I'm sure you're excited about, Greg. 248 hours, so we've got a real football. Another year on the throne, Greg. Another year. Endless primetime games for you to enjoy. They're throwing a concert up there. It's a whole thing. I'll be at work.

You know, we're here. But you love it. You're going to be sitting on the computer. You're going to write your what we learned from the game. And, oh, yeah, I meant to let me get to it again. So we're doing the, I'm excited too, very bubbly. A very special around the NFL podcast today. We're doing go get my lunch.

Thursday, we will do our preview of every game in week one. And that episode, if you remember, if you're a regular listener, the top of our Thursday episode, we'll have the recap of that Thursday night game between the Patriots and Chiefs. Bloodbath. And then Sunday, our flagship program, Sunday night, the only game that matters in the podcast business, our show on Sunday night where we go over each game,

game by game inside the NFL style and talk about everything that happened on Sunday. God forbid another podcast entity in this building would try to do the same. The only podcast that matters on Sunday night, The Around the NFL podcast, presented by head and shoulders. Erica Tamposi, the loose cannon, LC. Let's do some news. All right, you got it. Let's start with a little more hurricane talk.

Oh, my God. We're still talking about hurricanes. Terrible stuff, obviously, going on with Hurricane Harvey down in Texas and the Gulf Coast. Gulf Coast, there is another issue. Now, Hurricane Irma, awful name, is barreling toward Florida, picking up steam, and it is trending as a dangerous. category five hurricane winds increasing to 175 miles per hour from a football standpoint. This is creating trouble for the NFL in terms of scheduling because the Miami Dolphins and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are scheduled to play in South Florida on Sunday afternoon, a 1 p.m. kickoff.

And NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport reported that the NFL and local officials continue to monitor the hurricane and it could lead to a situation where they need to change. change the site. So here we are again. We just talked about the Texans who are actually going to open up at home after Houston got hit so hard by Harvey. Now, Irma is showing up, Greg. What do we know right now? Well, I'm reading online that the winds of Hurricane Irma are already stronger than Katrina

was at its peak. So people are taking it seriously. It's days out, though, that you never know what direction it's going to take. I mean, it's trying to guess. But we'll have to see. We've seen Miami games moved in the past. delayed in the past and maybe it'll happen again. Well, I mean, the governor of Florida has declared a state of emergency for the entire state.

And I mean, Greg's right to talk about it being the strongest Atlantic hurricane at this point ever recorded in that region. The University of Miami's, their classes are done for the week, basically. Both of these teams have a buy week 11. So that's an option. It's not a good option at all. I don't think either team would want to give up their buy and then play all of those games straight through. but, I mean, it's there for them. It's convenient that they both sort of have that.

You'd have to go back to the 99 season, I think it is, when there were an odd amount of teams, 31 teams when Cleveland came back, were a team at a week one by. A week one by is just a ridiculous thing. We would take something like this to create that. And Dolphins coach Adam Gase had this to say, we're going to keep practicing and getting ready for the game

until somebody tells us differently. I've never really been through anything like that about the possibility of a category five, hurricane. I don't know what to expect. So we will continue to track that as the rest of the NFL world and country in general, another hurricane in the news. All right, moving on, the Indianapolis Colts have made it official. Andrew Luck will not play in week one against the Rams. Indianapolis general manager, Chris Ballard announced Monday that the team starting quarterback will not play in the game against the Rams. And there is, and this is the most important part.

Because I think a lot of us figured week one was going to be a long shot, there is still no timetable on Luck's return and rap sheet reported on NFL Total Access on Monday that it's too early to tell whether Luck will be on the field week two, week three, maybe even week four, Mark Sessler. So now we are staring at a situation where it is the worst case scenario potentially an extended absence for Andrew Luck. Yes, it is. And they have Jacoby Preset, who they traded for, but basically the team said yesterday that this is not someone that we can start this week, no big surprise, and they view them more as a

long-term investment who they want to keep around for years and years, but it's going to be Scott Tolzine, and I don't care what you tell me, anyone who watch the cults and their offense in this preseason, deep concerns on every level. Probably the strongest part of their team right now is that they finally rejuvenated that running back room. They've got more young running backs than they did in the past. Their general manager, Chris Ballard, spoke. What's your favorite type of frog? And, you know, he's sometimes hard.

He's sometimes a little. It's a little hard to read. Like, what does he mean? I don't think it was too hard to read between the lines when he spoke on Monday, I believe it was, that Luck is not playing in week two, that I think in the best case scenario, it's three or four. He made it clear that once Andrew Luck starts practicing, that he'll need a few weeks of practice.

So just do the math. He's not practicing now. If you're a Colts fan, I wouldn't expect to see him necessarily in September. You got the Rams, and after that you have the Cardinals, Browns, Seahawks, and 49ers. It sounds like, too. It's a lot of something that's mental that's going on with him, too. I don't know if he's maybe physically ready and he's just not mentally there yet, just based on the different quotes that have come out,

the game that's four inches between the years and all the quotes that have been. I thought it was six inches. Maybe on certain heads. A different, you know, team executive talked about the six inches between a player's year. Is that a brain-sized sub-tweet? Look has a pretty sizey brain, I think. He has a book club. Yeah.

He reads books and he reads defense as well. just feels like he short-changed him a couple inches, at least. I would say, I would even, like, I'd go over, I'd say nine inches between the years. Six plus. It's got a big head. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, so the Colts have a problem. A quarterback, Scott Tolzean is, you know, it looks like a mess.

Let's be honest. So what do the Colts do? They make a trade, and they traded a former first-round pick, Philip Dorset, to the Patriots for, oh, my God, slice me off a piece of that. Jacoby Brissette. the Patriots dealt their third string quarterback and a 2016 third round pick to the Colts for Dorset, who, of course, was a first round pick under Ryan Grigsin, Colleen Wolfe, which in real life means you're really like a sixth round pick, right?

Sure. Yeah. What are we expecting out of this trade? That seems about right. I mean, ultimately, it's tough to say because you're really looking at Jacoby Brissette and Scott Tulzine as like the starters there. And Philip Dorset, I mean, we were waiting for him to sort of break out and we haven't seen it yet.

So it's tough. These are names we know. I mean, Jake Briscuit is kind of a tougher name to pronounce sometimes. But these are just guys, even though they're famous, they're end of the roster guys that weren't locks totally to have long-term futures with their team. I would be shocked having watched Brissette, he's a pretty raw prospect that he would be starting for the Colts anytime soon.

And Dorset, they just, the Patriots made five trades over the weekend, which is outrageous. That's more than any team made all of last year by far. And all five were to shore up special teams. They just went Dorset, I think, to return some puns via fourth or fifth receiver. I don't know. I was out of pocket. I was in Texas over the weekend. I'm sure there were some hot takes that Bill Belichick made a great move here, getting a former

first round pick, blah, blah, blah. Does anybody a little early sandwich prop here? If he goes under over 500 yards in that offense this year, I will pay out sandwiches if anyone wants to take me on that. Dorset? Yeah. No, I don't think he's going to have much. I'm not convinced he'll be on the roster at the end of the season.

If there's any team that's going to happen with, it would be the Patriots. That's a terrible trade if he's not going to be on the roster. Yeah, that would be a bad. They gave up a third round pick, too. I mean, typically New England. They didn't give up a pick in that trade. I mean, Dorset was a first round pick. Oh, I read the copy.

I think if you're Berset, though, you spend all offseason hearing the Jimmy, G is going to get traded away, and suddenly you're shipped out of town. I mean, I think Colts, at least the women in Indianapolis have to be happy about this trade. Why is that? They get a slice. Slice me off a piece. You know? Oh, Slice me off a piece of that Jake Brisket.

I'm just saying. I will end up saying it on the air at some point in a serious situation. That's going to happen. Over under, Jake Brisket starts in Indianapolis. I'm going to set it at one and a half. season or yeah this season i'm sorry my phone syri just came up and it said slice me off a piece of that jake brisket i swear to god i didn't even touch it it just all of a sudden lit up with it so that's scary even the phone maybe it's a sign yeah even the

phone is bubbly mark mark disinterested in your phone commentary not at all he's looking at Brad Pitt right now. I don't think I'll start at all. Okay. By the way, this is our video show. I should have said that earlier. NFL.com slash ATN video. It goes up 930 Eastern, 630 Pacific.

So you could see Mark's disinterested gaze as Colleen was looking at. I was gripped by her information. I call it a glaze. Moving on. Oh, my goodness. Brock Osweiler. It wasn't a month ago that the Browns were sending out sizzle reels of checkdown passes from Brock. For those about to Brock, we salute you.

I mean, that always felt like a CIA operation, basically, but sure. So what do the Browns do after giving him either every chance to win the starting job or every chance to showcase what ability he may or may not have? They jettison the quarterback that they gave up or they basically bought for $16 million. and a second round pick. And not long after that, the Denver Broncos come sniffing around and they reunite with Brock Osweiler on a one-year deal. And, of course, the Broncos used, was it a first-round pick on Osweiler once upon a time?

Second round pick in 2012. He left the team with some acrimony because they did make the attempt. Elway made the attempt to bring him back. but there was some chatter rap sheet reporting i remember that he was miffed when peyton manning took the job back from him and uh he wanted a fresh start well guess what two years later he's back where he started here's what elway had to say about the decision to bring brock assweiler back in the building when brock made the decision he thought he made the best decision they thought was best for him and so you know it's just kind of funny how these things worked out and and and uh with our situation

and Brock being available that, you know, it's funny how everything aligned. And so, you know, we know that Brock can win football games with us. He's played a lot. He's got a lot of experience. And so, you know, that was one glaring hole we had at that point in time in my mind when Paxson hurt the shoulder. So we're able to get it fixed. Greg, your thoughts?

The signing makes trade. I mean, the signing makes sense to me that they bring back Brock Oswald. Lynch isn't available. They didn't like their backup situation. This is a guy Elway offered $16 million a year to only 18 months ago. It's not like it's a different person. He's been in this offense with Mike McCoy before. He's just a backup, and they get him essentially for free.

He's on the veteran's minimum salary that they have to pay him. So why not bring him back? I did find one comment from Elway a little strange, though. He said, I'm sure he's going to need a little football rehab. We know that. We'll welcome him with open arms and we'll give him some love. Whoa. Football rehab.

He's a broken man right now. That's what I'll say. Another one of these projects, you know, save me, save me, John Elway. And by the way, I don't have a problem with the signing. They needed death, Paxton Lynch is out for several weeks. But I did see some hot takes peeking in. It was a few beers in over the weekend. I remember these tweets by the lake.

You know, peeking into Twitter, seeing things along lines of, hmm, savvy stuff from John Elway here. What a move, John. Are you kidding me? Acting like this is some type of, to borrow a Marxism, a coup d'etat, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is baloney. This guy was, they wanted to give him like 17 million a year and then, and then you go and potentially, let's be honest here with Paxton Lynch, he's got a bad shoulder now, but you might have botched that pick too. The way that's looking so far, you don't deserve any credit for now getting Brock Oswald at the league minimum. It only worked out.

You only have him because he stinks and you didn't see it before. This has been on your radar. are long before Elway re-signed Osweiler. You have been more... He stinks! Elway is overrated as a team builder, and I think you could look at a collection of draft picks at this point and say, there's a lot of suspect draft picks.

That's true of a lot of GMs. Let me say, I don't think he's overrated, but this idea that he is unassailable as a team leader. He was overpraised in this situation. Right. That's all. But you have to... It's funny that the best quarterback was on their roster on that Super Bowl.

Trevor Simeon was the number three. Yeah, you're right. During Media Week, he was off by himself just sitting at a table alone. He looked like a high school kid back then. All this thing about acrimony between Osweiler and Elway, though, Osweiler is best friends. That's the term he used with Elway's son. I don't know whatever happened back then,

but there's no major negative feelings to get over here. That probably played into. You bring people back into your business who you know, who you've worked with. Osweiler's previous time there was not glowing, but that it's not like it's a long-term thing or anything. As soon as Paxton Lynch is back, he's going to be out. Do they keep three quarterbacks all season? You never know.

You never know. I'm not ruling anything out. Like if you told me that Brock Osweiler starts by the end of the year for a team that's struggling, I don't think that would be the most shocking thing. It wouldn't shock me either if he got cut, but you never know. The Jets just made Bryce Petty the number two quarterback in their building. A draft picks high pedigree two years in, you can start to slide down that chart if you're not showing growth. We'll see how they handle it once Lynch gets healthy.

Finally, real quick in the news, it was cut down day, final cut down day over the weekend. I want to bring one to light Buffalo Bills backup running back, Jonathan Williams, who once upon a time was Spice Rack, who is, of course, Chris Wessling's Desert Consigliari, was his gem secret pick that he could get behind as a guy that was going to thrive in the NFL, was released in a surprise move by the Bills.

And then he went unclaimed on waivers. We don't really need to dig in on this. But I thought to, you know, just put a little bow on it. I reached out to Spice Rack, who was poolside at the Marquis in Vegas, and asked if he could just give me his thoughts on Jonathan Williams' career downturn. I'm trying to rehab my back right now, hands with. Who gives a shit about Jonathan Williams at a time like this? Well, that's how you get back on the show.

Rehabing it, Marquis, too. Interesting. I did reach, because... That's all you got from this guy. Yeah, I texted him back and say, hey, what's up with your back? No response. So it's either, you know... Look, you went out to visit him in person, and you have never... No one's ever owned up to whatever happened out there,

but some sort of chill came over the interaction between you and him, and it's... That what we just heard is a product of that. I'm not even sure Dan knows what happened. No, I'm sure it was in the cloud of substances and spirits, you know, but something negative happened. Did you ever see the film Very Bad Things? Yes, I did.

Well, I'll leave it that. It's a very bad movie. It's a terrible movie. Not my favorite film. I'm kind of with you on that. All right, that's what's happening in the news. Time that for shoulders of greatness, as I said. What does that mean?

I don't really know. But what we're going to do is talk about rookies that will lead their team. teams in week one. And I're going to shoulder the load. They're going to put a lot. They're going to put their team on their shoulders and carry them in a great way. Hence shoulders of greatness. All right.

Thanks, right. Really connecting the dots there. Thanks. All right. So I'm going to give you three rookie names. And each of you real quick. Let's, you know, tell me which one of these rookies is most likely to have shoulders of greatness.

Okay. Here are your choices. Carolina Panthers running back Christian McCaffrey. Cleveland Brown's quarterback, Deshaun, Kaiser, and Minnesota Vikings, oh, excuse me, and Jacksonville Jaguar is running back. Leonard Fortinette. I'm going Christian McCaffrey.

Cleveland has to play Pittsburgh. I think it's a very tough ask because a quarterback's going to do something as well, but he's going to probably make a few key mistakes. As a rookie, Christian McCaffrey is going to go have three or four big highlight plays that gets splashed on NFL.com. and sent out a thousand times and a billion tweets on Twitter,

McCaffrey's going to come out looking good. Isn't it adorable, by the way, that Mark's pretending like he doesn't think DeShon Geyser is going to. No, I think Kaiser, I'm glad he's starting, and I think he'll do some good things. But Pittsburgh and Week 1, you know. It's a tough matchup for him. It's not a good match. I don't trust Leonard Fournette right now either just because of that offensive line.

And he has a tough matchup against Houston's defense. So McCaffrey. I think McCaffrey's the way to go on this. I think he's the way to go. McCaffrey could touch the ball four times, look like a god, and everyone's happy. Well, that's a good question. What do you guys think from Capri's workload? Is this guy a 20-touch-a-game guy immediately?

Are they going to ease him into the offense? Probably depends on who they're playing in the match-up, but I don't think he's- But week one, that's what we're talking about. Not eased-in at all. If he's a 20-touch? Yeah, a huge workload. He's already showed in the preseason.

It worries me, though, because everybody is on the bandwagon with him now. So is there too much hype? No, none of us matter, though. I mean, that is literally nothing to do with how he performs. Don't say that about it. Well, I mean, I don't think the. fact that, wait a minute, too many football analysts are excited about a player, maybe he won't perform well, that could happen, but it's not linked to our hype.

True. I believe that Christian McCaffrey also will have shoulders that are very great. This was a compelling discussion. But Deshaun Kaiser, he could be fun. I'm just saying Kaiser also is probably going to throw a killer in her. He's going to, if he ever beat the Steelers in week one, you can't ask anyone to do anything more. We were texting about this.

I was watching his last game, and he's going to have one of those kind of fun, frustrating years, I think. If he stays on the field and stays healthy, which is not easy to do. I could see him leading the league in interceptions, but having a couple nice quarterback, fourth quarter comeback wins. Yeah, I mean, making big plays. I could see that type of season. I mean, he's already recorded one big victory this season. He's won Mark Sessler's heart. I mean, early in late July, I've emotionally disconnected from my team.

I don't care about the Browns anymore. You know, that lasted until watching a little Deshawn Kaiser a couple of series. And then he's all right. Because it was, the prospect was Brock Osweiler in week one. I think Kaiser's much easier to get behind. I don't think he's got a lot around him, though. It's not an easy team to run as a quarterback. I like his chemistry with Corey Coleman there, though.

Mark's excited. They connected a lot in the preseason. I saw another tweet. Let's not over hype Mark's excitement. I saw another tweet. The Browns picked up someone else's cast off. and you got a wide receiver and you got very excited about that. You're in.

He's no cast off. He looks. Am I sorry? You're in, baby. Jason Williams. I mean, I don't understand why Seattle let him go. That's my question. Yeah, Seahawks fans were convinced he was going to be a Hall of Famer.

You know, he did spend two years on their practice squad and then they decided not to keep. I don't know what they're feeling. He's learning how to practice and play like a pro on that practice squad. Now here he is in Cleveland. All right. I'm changing my opinion. Deshaun Kaiser has great shoulders. That was Shoulders of Greatness presented by Head and Shoulders.

All right, now it's time, folks. Cut all the malarkey. It's time to get into it. A very special episode of the Around the NFL podcast. Because it's go get my lunch, you turd. I don't know if the music matches. It's getting there. You're getting there.

It is what you want it to be. It's classy. All right. So this is how it works. Maybe it's more like, maybe it's more like, Mommy, I've got a drug problem. Yeah. Here are the rules of go get my lunch. I'm on the board.

To the show. Hang on. Let's hold off on that a second. If you're new to the show, we go around the room and we're making it's predictions, basically, of the season. And we're each going to go three times. And it's very special. The reason it's a very special edition is Chris Wessling will be involved. And Wes reached out to him yesterday, and he sent in predictions of his own.

He also got copy from us of what our predictions will be. And that way he can fully involve himself and making some sandwiches. Because how it works is we each make predictions. And then everyone in the room gets the opportunity to jump in and say, you're wrong. You're wrong. You piece of garbage. I'm taking you on.

And there's a sandwich on the line. And we're talking a high-octane sandwich. So when you don't agree, you take... Yes, I take... I can't... This is a little difficult for me to understand. Colling's had some rules issues within this context. If you agree, there's no sandwich on the line.

But if you disagree, you're saying, go get my lunch. All right, got it. Got it, got it, got it. Conflict. Once we start talking about sandwiches, that's all I want to talk about and think about. So it's fine. Put it this way. We can put this on a t-shirt.

Put your sandwich where your mouth is. There you go. Got it. Unless you're Mark, who doesn't... That sound bite is disgusting. That is. It's so gross. And nobody better tweet at me.

Because if you tweet at me about that, let me hear it again, Erica. No. I'm here. You come at me one more time, and I'm coming at you with a banana. It's... I don't want to listen to that again. Hell. All right.

All right. Now, let's check out the standings, all-time standings. Where are we at as a group? And again, if you're watching on... our video show, you could be looking at this, but I will also tell you in an audio sense, all time. Is that correct? Is the percentage put Greg ahead of Dan, maybe?

But Greg 107 and 85. The bottom of the board. I mean, look at Colleen is she has a winning record. You are being robbed by this board. What is going on behind the glass? It's okay. Either way, Dan and I are way ahead of the field. Greg 107 and 85, a nice second place.

And by the way, you have a Derell Revis will play in 2017. sitting out there. So that could flip it back to me. Because that's not looking too good. Remember that whole Revis? Yeah. Calm down. Wait a second.

It's week one. We're excited. It's not over yet. It's by the end of the season, right? It's not over yet. Anyway, Greg and Dan both doing very well 20 games over plus. Third person there, huh? Wes, West 86 and 90, Mark, 74 and 84.

If you notice, Mark has a lot, much fewer picks. He's dodged to several of these shows, probably strategically over the years. Well, actually that. dates back to my early, my early involvement where I never took up anyone. If you look at my record over the last four or five times, the percentage. You're getting back on track. Well, I also, I do it to enjoy it and to put stuff out there that I find enjoyable versus playing it's safe to have the highest percentage.

Okay. Which explains your Pat McAfee will come at me, baby. Come at me, baby. That one's staying out there. We got to make the. Come at me, Greg. Don't go on. Keep going.

Keep going, Greg. All right, like it. See, we're ready. The heat is turned up. Who likes a sandwich is hot? Because that's what's happening right now. All right, Connie. You're 8 and 7 all time, by the way.

Winning record. This is your second. You haven't done a full round of sandwich props with us since the 2016 draft, so we're happy to have you here. And LC, Erica Temposi, if you could be Wes's stand-in. You got it. If you would. We appreciate that.

Very exciting. Here we go. Let's get it going right now. Colleen, why don't you, start us off with your prop. Okay. Andrew Luck starts fewer games than Mike Glennon. So

obviously we covered Andrew Luck already. He's not going to be playing in the opener. He hasn't practiced yet. There's no timetable for him to return. You have Scott Tolzeen. I mean, look, he hasn't been on the field since the last week of last season. And then in Chicago, it doesn't seem like they want to rush

Mitchell Trubisky. They still have Mark Sanchez on the roster there in case so they don't throw Trubisky in before he's ready. They have a plan. They don't want to rush him. I think Andrew Luck starts fewer games. That is a compelling way to start.

I mean, it gets you thinking. Right? In multiple levels. Really got to get inside the old brain there. It's a good one. You did very well here, Culling. Thank you. Andrew Lux's four-inch brain couldn't handle a question like this.

How do we know? I got to factor in a couple things here. Okay. Four inch brain. I'm talking he's got nine inches of brain. What? Andrew Luck will start fewer games with Mike Glennon. I don't know.

I feel like he's going to miss half the year. Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck. Or maybe a little less. Let's say he plays and he stays healthy, no guarantee. I'm going to put him around 10 games personally. Glennon has to stay healthy. He's never been a starter for a full season.

He's got Trubisky. They could start off really bad. I think luck will start. He might even start double the games of Mike Lenin. Wow. Whoa. So I will take you up on that sandwich. Okay.

Yeah. You're on. I will take you up, too, because I do agree that they want Glennon to start. They like the idea of keeping Trubisky, you know, behind the scenes until next season. But what happens when you're one in five or you're one in six? John Fox. I mean, even if John Fox may not even be making that decision by the end of the season, you never know. So I'm going to take you up as well.

And why not? Big decision, Greg. Do you want me to throw to Erica via West? Yeah, let's hear it. Right, West via Erica? Wes challenges you. That's a challenge. He believes the same as Mark and I.

I'm going to go across the board. All right. Wow. That's a lot of sandwiches. That was a great one because I think you reeled us in on one you got a real chance at. That's what you want. Because usually, well, usually you lose. If you look at historically the way to win this game, if you make three to five,

you have to hit on basically one where you're real people in and then just clean up on everybody else. I'm saying. I think she has a real chance. If she hits this one. She's going to win for the week for the season, possibly. All right, Mark, you're up next. All right, this will be the final NFL season for Ben Rathlisberger. He's done after this season.

So, wait, we need to put a timeline on this, though. So, like, are we? When the season ends, his career ends. Okay, so he retires it. He retires. I'm saying, like, so he can't return next June. What if it's just up in the air? Then this thing never gets settled.

Well, no, we've had things like this before. If I were to win this and you pay out the sandwiches, and if he comes back, I will pay you double sandwiches. You're saying he retires at the end of the year. He retires. I think that's actually going to happen. That's the Trent Richardson Corollary that you bring up. Yeah.

What if he does this off season? He does it again where he just says, I don't know. Well, then we have to wait. That's a bridge. We can deal with all that down the road. But essentially, you got to set these up. It is a clear retirement. I understand what he's saying.

This is on the level, because if he's a. comes back, I'm not going to say because he announces retirement, he comes back that he's still retired. He's not retired. If this is giving you pause, Greg, you could hold off on sandwiches for like a year and a half, two years if you want, but you just

have to eventually pay it off. With interest? Exactly. I will take you on this. Okay. I'll take you on this. I'll take you on this. I think that despite everything he says, he loves the game, he gets paid a lot of money to do it, and he's going to play until the Steelers kick him out. Despite all this. I think he's going to retire. I'll take you up on this.

My only concern was the sandwich props that we have apparently from like nine months ago, which are still sitting out there. And what kind of game do you have if you just never, if it never end? Because what I kind of think will happen is he'll do exactly what he did this year, which is he'll drag it out until May or June. And you won't really know. I would say in that case that I would pay you sandwiches. If he doesn't make it clear that he's retiring by, you know, February March,

and then if he does, you can pay me back. You have to play this game with dignity. And if you have a tough round, you've got to pay out the sandwiches. That's the way this is. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I like this, though, because this is something to root for. You might as well pick things you want to root for. Oh, I always do.

I always pick things. What do you think hashtag gradual decline was all about? That's the best thing to do. Where's Wes come down on this? He challenges. Okay. Oh. Okay.

There you go. And by the way, everybody should remember one onion hanger. we're each going three times you better have one onion hangar I hope maybe you try these onions you like them real sweet onions

that means one where you're really hanging them out there interesting I feel like all mine are showing a little onion fumbled brown I guess it's all subjective

I'm just saying I don't know which one all right Greg let's hear one of them you're up all right Chris isn't here but I know this this one will reach his heart

Adrian Peterson no I believe Westavis, it's coming back as a holiday. The Cincinnati Bengals will be playing on the first weekend of the year. And so allowing Christopher Wesleyan to celebrate the ancient tradition of Westavis, which is watching the Cincinnati Bengals lose in his mind on that first playoff weekend. We're down to two chances for Greg to have an onion hanger, basically. Bengals are a good team.

They have a chance to make a game. Maybe that's not an onion. West is a good. I think they're going to be playing Westavis as well, so I will not take you on that. Now, remember, if they get a buy in the playoffs, they're not playing on Westavis. Well, that, okay. That's odd. That's asking a lot.

It could happen. Just pointing that out. It's a good note, though. Good to know that. So if you get a buy, just the first Cincinnati playoff game is not Westvis. It has to be wild card. It has to be wild card. It's almost that first game usually.

It usually is, often. But technically, they played Sunday. Yeah, that would count. I'm going to challenge you on it. I don't think, I don't think it's coming back. I don't think that they'll be in the playoffs. I'm worried about their offensive line. They lost two guys, and I think that's a big deal.

Nobody's really talking about it. I'll take you up because why not? I really, I'm going to, let's guess what Wes is going to go with. I think Wes wants it to happen so bad. I don't think he loves Cincinnati's team. I know he has major issues with the line and Andy Dalton, or maybe more of the line than Andy Dalton. I'm going to say, though, he wants West of his back enough that he's going to go with it.

Or not take the sandwich, basically. be good for you are correct yeah so he believes Cincinnati's going back to the postseason he does okay okay there we go so you reeled one sandwich wager in there gregg up next is erika tamposi in for two sand two two me and mark oh mark as well okay good i was like i really don't get this game let's count whichever one of us you were not counting as a person let's start to count that person and by the way i did say to mark today marks has his finger issue i will not not be making any jokes about Mark's finger until we know that everything's going to be okay. Yeah, it's very,

it's varying into a bit of a concerning place, but we'll see later today. I said moratorium on finger bits until we know Mark will have ten figures. On the plus side, I mean, JPP had his best season after everything that had got a huge long-term contract. I'm just saying. Wait, what are you saying? I don't know how that translates to anything that I'm involved in. The subtext here is if he happens to lose the finger.

Like, I don't see that triggering a huge long-term contract for me. Yeah, we have a precedent of it actually working out well for the person. Let me go real quick, over under, Mark Fingers, nine and a half this time next year. I'm going to take the under. How about push? I'll take you up on that. Oh, wait, that's how this works. It's over.

Okay, here we go. It's Chris Wessling's first wager. Here we go. All right. Wes says that the Baltimore Ravens are a playoff team. Okay. Oh, to the point. I'll take Wes up on that.

I like to stay consistent across of all of our predictions. The NFL media umbrella? Yeah, they were not. I think they were like an eight-win team. I'm with you. I think they have major problems offensively. Quarterback concerns, as much as I love me, some Justin Tucker. I believe there are eight or nine win ceiling,

and I think there are better teams that will take that playoffs. I'm with you. I see about nine and seven. There'll be other teams that could knock them out of the playoffs in that situation. I will take Wes up on this. I'll challenge. I'll challenge just to challenge here. I think the defense has really been good this preseason.

And I kind of like that they brought in Greg Roman, so maybe they can run the ball a little bit more. Marty Morningweg doesn't really like to run the ball. So that's sort of. Wait, so you think they are making the playoffs? Yes. Because then you're not. Oh, I'm not.

You really don't. I don't like the word challenge. It's going to be fine. I get. I get confused by this game sometimes, don't worry. And you're newer to it. I got you. I'm with you.

It is great that four people on the planet have been allowed to play this game, and at least half the room does not really know how the game operates. Don't get my lunch. All right, so there you go. So Wes has how many challenges there? Zero. Two, three, I think. Oh, whatever.

I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. This happened the last time. I did it too. Colleen's next prop is going to be about Sugar Ray Leonard. All right, here we go. My turn. I'm bullish about the Steelers. I listen to the Friday fantasy extravaganza part two,

and I heard all about that Fabiano talking about the splits of Ben Ralthusberger. And sure, he's better at home. A lot of guys are better at home. I still think their offense is going to be great this year. Last year, I erroneously predicted 530 points for the Steelers. dealer's offense. I'm going to stay away from that because there's too many things to go a whole season with point total, but I'll zero in on two of their playmakers in Pittsburgh. Antonio Brown and Martavis Bryant versus get ready, Greg, the field in duo receiving yards.

And I'll give you any combination you want, two wide receivers, a wide receiver and a tight end, anything you want, two running backs, two fullbacks. Okay. Okay. How about two wide receivers on different teams? No, can't do that. But it's important that you ask. Well, you know what I love even more than the New England Patriots. I love the field. I'm always taking the field.

You're a field guy, big time. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm taking the field. Yeah. Okay. It's a good one, but I'll take the field. What is West got?

I mean, I'm just imagining, you know, Julio Jones and Austin Hooper, maybe. Devonche Adam. You know, Georgian-Galvanting around in a field or AJ Green and, I don't know. Wes is not. That's what I'm talking about. West is not challenging. Interesting. With Dan on that.

I like when I'm with Wes on things because I feel more. It can make you feel good. Or I could be totally reading it backwards, too. So there's that one. Well, it's not important that you have this right. What does it say, Erica? Well, it says, I will challenge on all of Dan's except this one. Well, now you're getting away stuff.

But that's wrong. Yeah, he is not taking up. Well, you cleared up this one, so he is not challenging you. Okay. That's clear. Yeah, no, you're right, though. Yeah. Okay, here we go.

It's a good question. Who would beat him, though? There isn't like a logical... That's what I'm saying. I know. I got you. There's not a logical one that you put right in. Who would beat the duo?

Yeah. What about Devante Adams and Jordy Nelson? Okay, that's one. Okay. You know, Gronk and Brandon Cooks, I guess. I was going to say, gronk, if he stays healthy and whoever the league. It would have been Edelman, I thought. Bryant gets knocked out for six weeks with a high-hand sprint.

Right, that's what you got to worry about. Yeah. All right. Next round. Good round. Good first round. Mark, get us going, round two. All right.

Tom Brady will start. will start no more than 14 regular season games. What? You know, you're always putting this little injury. You know, it doesn't have to be injuries. It doesn't have to be at all, Greg. A little sprinkling of like, ooh, it would be fun if some players got hurt. So he'll miss time the show.

He'll miss games. At least two. I'm going to go off history. He's never, other than the ACL blowout, he's never missed a game to injury. I'll just go with history, which is instructive. Unless somehow they are so good and they beat every team and they end up just resting Tom Brady. They'd never rest them for two weeks.

Especially after losing of the Giants to go 18 and 1, if they have a chance to do it again. Yeah. I made it 14, so it wouldn't be some stupid thing where he's sitting out week 17. Right. Well, and he's, that's literally never happened. Even in the cases where they have rested him,

he plays like a series. Right, right. Because I said starts, not, he has to start. So, yeah, I'm definitely taking you up on this. I'm taking it too. I find this, I find this compelling after Mark famously had an accident while preparing a Tom Brady meal that he suddenly isn't as convinced in the health of Tom Brady.

I don't hold that against him. I am a C-minus chef. So, you know, I don't even know how to actually properly cut a sweet potato. That's not on Tom Brady. That's a borderline onion hanger. Yeah. All I do is bring those. That's an onion hanger.

Today on, I'll show you a little bit of our growing huge onions. That's why I'm, like, in fifth place, because I continually drop heats. Seekers. I know Wes, even though there's the kissing cousins dynamic, I feel like Wes will definitely take you up on that one due to his Tom Brady crush. He's going to challenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

You'd be crazy not to. Next up, Colleen. Okay. The, let's do, the Titans will play in January. Well, doesn't the regular season ends in January? No, their last game is December 31st. Okay, good. Nice.

Now, I looked that up. All right, so the Titans make the playoffs. Right. They break the eight-year playoffs. off drought they win the division i love their offensive line they're running games good they have a good front seven they made upgrades to their secondary they brought in some they're the favorites in that division i think so co-favorits you know texans but they're kind of a trendy media pick including in this room and this is a tough one for me because i i kind of think there's a less than 50 50 chance really

but yet i did i do think they're the favorites so i'm not going to take you up i don't like that inconsistency i want to root for them too i like this team i actually picked them to win a playoff game so this is one i will not challenge on i think i pick the texans to win that division and they're not going to win a wild card i think oh you know what show it to me marcus over 17 weeks do it all you guys are oh you're not saying titoons anymore how about the jets more like the jest funny tweets guys whatever uh show it to me you know win 10 games you know go go get in the postseason i'll take you up all right let's go houston oh yeah support Houston.

Where do you guys come down? Wow. Little Houston pop, you're going to come against it. And I will, you put yourself in a place that no one critiqued. You're supporting them as a city? Yes. I think we all support. Yes.

We stand by Houston. You guys are all like, ooh, Nashville is this, you know, whatever. Stand with Houston is where the old Zucer comes down. Okay. We made those picks before anything happened with the hurricane. I just want to let everyone know. And shout out, you know, shout out to JJ Watt. Give him some heat on this podcast from time to time.

He's done a nice little job with this. Not in this scenario. We don't. No, it's incredible. Is it over 20 million now? He's done a very nice job. It just keeps going up and up. All right.

20 million on Tuesday. He's raised over $20 million. Wow. That's doing something with your platform, people. Colleen, take note. Now that you have 14 shows. Now I can. Yes.

What are you going to do to improve Philadelphia? Everybody will follow me just like they follow JJ Watt. It's totally the same. All right, Greg, you're up. Oh, wait. What about Wes? Oh, we got Wes on this one? No, Wes is with you.

He's with. The Titans. With the Titans. I mean, he's been on the Titans train for a long time. That got me, too. Don't worry. All right, he believes the Titans will go to the playoffs. All right, you're up, Greg.

The hardest decision is we have more prepared than I think we're going to use. I want to use them all. I like them all. Greg, got to be your right. Greg, also asking before the show to keep it to 60 minutes. So do a speed round at the end. Why not? I think this one will interest you guys more,

so I'm going to go with that. Good. The New England Patriots bringing us in on this. We'll finish with a worse record than they finished with last season. Well, were they 15 and 1 last year? No.

No, they were 14 and 2. Right? They were 14 and 2, so they would have to lose three games. Playoffs does not count. I'm not trying to trick you with some sort of winning percentage. That's why you have to be very careful here, because if they went 11 and 5 last year or something,

then it would be like, hmm, there's some intrigue here. But 12 or 13 wins is still going to win that division and probably get a buy two. But people are saying, you know, this is a potential 60, no. You've said all offseason, they're better, cancel the Patriots. They've been 14 and 2 the last two seasons in a row, not just one. I think they could be a better team and they're going to be 13 and 3. They could be a better team and have three losses. Well, they're right off the bat.

I said this with the Dolphins, and it's even more so a fact with the Patriots, you give them four wins right off the bat with the Jets and Bills twice. They're basically farm teams in their own division. That's true. So that are other years, too, but yeah. But, well, more than ever now. I mean, there's a difference between this season and other seasons with that division. And then they have the NFC South.

And, you know, Jay Cutler is also in the division. It would be shocking if they lost more than one game in that division. and it's a very good chance they'll go undefeated. I think they're staring at 14, 15, and potentially 16 wins. So I will not take you on this. I'll say that they lose three games. I mean, it's- You would be taking me.

You are taking them. You're not, then. They'll finish with a worst record. No, they won't. I don't think they'll finish it. They'll have 14-16-month. So you say, go get my lunch. Go get my lunch, you turd.

So don't go get my lunch. If you- on that one. If you believe that it's going to be 14 wins or greater, then you would take me up on this. I'm saying they'll get worse. Their schedule is a rugged one. Listen, Texans, I'm not even saying that's a big deal.

You have the Panthers, the Bucks, the Falcons, the Chargers. At one point, you have the Falcons, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, dolphins all in a row. I say they go about 12 and 4. Whoa. 12 wins that's it win the division easy they're really losing a staff I don't know

to win the division by three games I was going to say how many games do the Patriots are going to win this division by three they can win by seven games yeah depending on what happens with the Dolphins wonder what the record is who came in second when they went 16 and oh do you remember I can find out really quickly for you

I'm just curious that's probably is the record or maybe not actually the 15 and one panthers in the nfc south a couple years ago that could that doesn't matter okay what really dad he's going to challenge he's going to challenge on that so dan did i'm a little confused dan and west took me up on that is that i i think they will have a same or better record than that you're taking me up on it you disagree with me yeah yes it is a little See, all right. Not the only one ever.

I told you. They won that division by nine games. Yeah, that's saucy. That's got to be a record. Wow. Erica, four. Did Mark take me up on that or not? I believe they will go 12 and 4, so whatever that means, that's what I did.

Oh, my God. It's contagious. I brought this out. I know no longer understand how the game operates. Erica, four, West. All right, this is a bit of an onion. If you want big onions, you've got to get big onion plant. And he says that the Los Angeles Rams finished with a winning record for the first time since 2003.

Hello. The Rams going from 4 and 12 to at least, barring a tie, 9 and 7. Wow. I'll take them up on that. I will, too. That's a good one. I mean, this is where I would love to hear from Wes on this. Let's try to put the logic together, better coaching staff.

He obviously believes Jared Gough will be better. Not a bad schedule. The schedule, I think, is a factor. The defenses, though, in their division. The tough division outside of the 49. Right. But you get to play the AFC South out of the division. And I believe, you know, inside the NFC, it's not too tough.

I mean, it's the South. AFC South. That's definitely West putting that into the picture. I love that West, though. What I would have, like, if you had told us a year ago, that Wes would ever have a wildly optimistic bet on the Rams of all teams. Well, they removed a critical element to the Rams. The times are changing.

I'm excited about this Rams team just to watch them. I don't know. I don't share Wes's total optimism, but I'm rooting for them to win nine games. I will take them up out of principle because I feel like they're seven or eight. I'm going to challenge him. Yeah, I don't think that they're going to have a winning season. There you go. The old Zeusers turn.

This guy has been a favorite of mine. I'm happy that he's starting to make a difference in the league. I've always rooted for him for whatever reason. Jadavian Clowny. This is the year he breaks through and becomes statistically a stud. 12 plus sacks for Jadavian Clowny for the Houston Texans this season. I agree with you. I actually think, I mean, after last season,

I think the momentum is just building and building. And I think this season for sure. I think, and yeah, the Watt angle of it and how Watt will command double teams and all that, which was not even the case. Last year, obviously, and Clowny had his best season. I think this is the year can all come together for Clowny if he stays on the best. I like the scenario. I'm taking you up just on the concept that something will go wrong.

Or he gets 11 and a half sex. Yeah, I mean, and something went right there, I guess. And he's not, he's not had a history of sacks. He has 10 sacks in his career looking at it so far. I feel like he's in the breakout season coming. It just feels like it. He's a guy who I think has a lot of bad. value without getting sacks in terms of his run defense and just busting up the play.

I guess I hate picking things that I'm rooting against, but I'm going to take you up on it. Because I love Jadavian Clowny. He was our, you know, you make fun of making the leap. We had him number one last year. Not that we were out on the limb there. At least he had a nice making the leap season. It's true. All right.

What about Wes? Oh, he took me. He's taking me on that. Yeah, he's with you. Okay. No, he's going against me. No, he's not. Wait, what?

He's not challenged. he's not challenging me whatever that means his previous comment flies in the face of that we can examine this off mic let's just hear the language one more time what Wes wrote

I okay I will take the challenge on Jets and Lynch but not the other two okay so well according to that latest comment that is that is accurate

okay now before we get into the last round real quick because Connie, we're running out of time with Connie. She's very important now. She is on literally 14 shows. Not literally. So let's, how many? Four? Three different television shows, all different shows.

All different shows. You count our show, no, right? Taped in different locale. Well, I mean. You don't count it, too late. That was a test. I wanted to see. My God, I failed.

Let's do, we always do a group sandwich prop. Okay. And the group sandwich prop. And then we're going to go right to Colleen for her last prop, and then she can get out of here. But the MVP of the National Football League in 2017. Let's go with Erica for Wes first. He said Tom Brady.

Tom Brady out on a limb, Chris Wesleying. Colleen Fox. Colleen Fox, I like that version. I also went with Tom Brady because I would like to win a sandwich. which I don't know if that's the right strategy or not, but... Onion hangers all over the place. Mark Sessler. Philip Rivers.

Philip Rivers, that ties in here. Super Bowl pick. Mark, I know what you're doing and I like it. I like how you're staying in your own structure this year. It's good. It's the first time. Still got Chargers Giants for the Super Bowl? I'm sticking with that until the very end.

Like it. How about Greg? I went with Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers. Always a good pick, a safe pick. But not too safe. I like it, Greg. I think it's not as safe as it gets.

I would say it's the number. To me, he's safe. I will go with Russell Wilson. All quarterbacks. Like that. Which is not a bad strategy in general with the MVP. Russell Wilson, who of course is healthy and has a lot of weapons. And I just feel really good about the Seahawks in the offense.

I think he puts it all together. All right. Last round. Here we go. Colleen. Close it out. Okay. Starting with you.

Oh, off of Philip Rivers talk. Keenan Allen leads the league in catches. He was a target machine when he was healthy in 2015. He was Philip Rivers' favorite target. Sorry, Antonio Gates. Defenses have to worry about... Tonyo Gates listening to this one. I know. But I was a bad time. But I mean, when they have, now that Melvin Gordon is productive, defenses are going to have to worry about him. And that wasn't the case when Keenan Allen was good in 2015. That was Melvin Gordon's down season, in his rookie year.

So you look at what he was on pace to do, I think 142 catches that season. That would have broke the single season receiving a record that Marvin Harrison had. Comeback player of the year. Well, that's, yeah, that's another one. I think it's fair because he's, unlike anyone else in league,

especially Julian Edelman now out of the picture, he has the potential to have the 12 to like 13 catch week. Right. He's done it. And he's done it and proved it. What he can't do is stay on the field. So for that reason alone, I'm taking the field because the guy can't stay healthy.

And until he can, I'm not going to get behind him. Okay. I hope for the best for him. I want him to stand the back. I would love to this to happen, but you've got to take the field. I mean, Keenan Allen's a pretty big underdog to lead the league in reception.

If you get this right. This is my onion hanger. It would be incredible. Maybe you try these onions. You like them. You're real sweet onions. I mean, I don't know how to get in and out of this game without playing the field on that.

I think he could have a great season, but, again, life, too many variables. What about Wes? He's going to challenge. That's a challenge. All right. Great. You got a lot of hanging onion, Colleen, as always. Okay.

Good, I think. That's what you're known for. I'm being told you have to go. Got to go. Got to get out of here. The remaining ones we have will plug you in on and you can do offsite. Okay. Nick Fortier, by the way, go get my lunch.

org, Nick Fortierre or Fortier. has been tracking this for years now, and you could see updated standings. At some point, he's going to lose interest. Soundboard. He gets the game, though. No, he does. The people that are actually involved with the game.

He'll, like, go to college. I think at some point to say, listen, you know, other things are happening in my life. I've become busy. I've stopped tracking this league-mandated podcast. You guys peaked a couple seasons ago. I'm going to move on. I'm not sure they'll come out in that words, but, yeah.

It's like when he hears on the podcast, he's like, oh, shit, they're doing it again. got to update this. There's no person involved. I like that you assume he's like 16 years old. Do we know anything about Nick's back? He could be 56. Nick, give us a detailed bio.

Yeah. I think at one point, it could be an empty nester. You should have Nick on. Yeah. All right. Okay. I'm out of here. I got to go.

One of your three shows and this is not one of them. No, this, what do you mean? This is in its own category. Come on. Off she goes. Off she goes. Now we can speak about her honestly. I can't believe she couldn't figure out the game.

it was disturbing it is and it was disturbing it is a little confusing it's very confusing all right here we go uh moving on greg uh go ahead well i'm i'm really thrown for a loop here my onion hanger was going to be philip rivers gets an MVP vote but now it seems repetitive because you just picked them to win the MVP and that so let's just throw that out let's throw that out well or you can stick with it nah it's then it's like two people had the exact had a very similar thing. Let's go with another option, which I do think is a pretty low in terms of onion hanging. Yes. Dalvin Cook leads all rookie running backs in yards from scrimmage. I'll take you on that.

It's Leonard Fournette, breeds Kristen McCaffrey, beats Joe Mixin, beats anyone else that comes up on the field. It's all Dalvin Cook time. I'm team Christian. I think he's going to have an immediate breakthrough and be a star in this league in year one so i'm going to take you up on that cook has really set up very well to do this because there's just not that much else happening in that offense and he plays every down so it's very logical and it's a good one but i'll take you up just because i also think mixing along with mcalfrey could have you never know with all these something if if one thing goes wrong and he's three weeks then you're right you're in trouble uh what did west have on this one he's challenging

all right all right so everybody's taking the field all right but it shows I think that's an onion hanger because whenever there's a field involved, you're usually going to lose. Philip Rivers, you know, getting an MVP vote to me would be bigger, but old Onion McGee over here already said he's going to win the MVP. Well, I don't, you're much more plugged in on the MVP voting. One MVP vote does not feel like much of achievement, but I guess it is when the way it breaks out. It is, because only about two or three people, you know, get it. Pete Priscoe thinks that Philip Rivers is the MVP?

No offense to Pete Priscoe, but that. Right. But if anyone at all that would be enough. But if you look at the track record, only two or three guys. Some years, you know, three guys get it. You're only going to get a couple. Well, because honestly, it's like a massive group thing. It's always down to two people.

I also have no idea if Pete Priscoe has an NFL MVP vote, but just as an example. I feel like you. You plugged in an experienced scribe. I liked what you did there. I could have thrown another one. Mike Cleese. There you go. Could have thrown Cleese in there.

A little Cleese bomb in a big spot. There you go. And we also want to throw one more in there, just a rule of threes. Chalise Manza Young, is that her name? How about her? Never know. That's a great job at Yahoo. Absolutely great work over there at Yahoo.com.

All right, whose turn is it? It is Chris Wessling with Erica as the conduit. Okay, he has T.J. Ward's Buccaneers allow fewer yards this season than Denver's defense. So that's just an either or Bucks finish higher in the rankings than the Denver Broncos. Now, this matches up with some of Wes's feelings that I've talked to him about where he's not really buying these Broncos. I'm going to take them up on this, though. Even though it's kind of a 50, you know, it's close, I'm not really buying the Bucks defense.

That's my thing. I'm not sure if this is a good defense at all. I know they signed T.J. Ward, which was a nice pickup at a position they needed, but I'm taking him. and if you're on the fence, that's one of the rules of the game for me. Just challenge it. And I feel like can go either way, so I'll just go against. I will too.

I also, I mean, I don't know if I see Denver's offense getting early, significant leads on teams. The Bucks could, and that could create some garbage time dynamic for opponents. Good point. Good point, Mark. I'll go next. And by the way, Erica, as per tradition. I've already got mine. You will be wrapping up the go get my lunch, prop wagers.

And I think the Irishman, Brandon McGuinness, is the only producer to ever get something right behind the glass. It's something like 1 and like 75 all time. Okay. I hope your prop is more consistent than your reading of Chris Wessling. Oh, wow. He only gave me like little blurb sentences, and I'm doing the best I can here.

you're doing an excellent job thank you sorry that west is getting better from cancer you because it's not time to give detailed write downs and send them off to turn it around on me a little insensitive gregg but we can forge on we'll get on to the next part of the show all right here we go here we go hang a little onion here you're going to hang a little onion here a lot of people saying they're doing that so let's see if it happens adrian peterson and marshon lynch their combined rushing yardage this season will be less than the eventual NFL rushing champ in 2017. I like it.

I don't think that's hanging onion. I'm saying a definite, no. I agree with you. I just, I think even the, I mean, I know that. Wait, why is that not hanging onion? Well, you're going to get like a 1,900, 2,000-yard rusher, and then you're going to get two guys that probably combined for about 13. I get, 1900.

That doesn't happen very awesome. It's going to be somebody around 1,600 usually. Yeah, 1600 is fair. I guess especially when it comes to Peterson I'm just not seeing a lot of rushing yards you're right we're a little down on Marshawn Lynch in this room so that's informing mine yeah I just think too many things go wrong yeah I don't think they get to to that total of the leader

so everyone in the room believes neither of those guys will have a big I will two of us one of those two I'd have to be really big on one of those two and I'm not on either but with Peterson particularly because of the situation he's in and West Where does Wes come down? He challenges. Okay, so he believes, because he's high on Peterson and Norris. That's why.

And I don't know about his thoughts on Lynch, but definitely Peterson. Okay, so I got a couple of sandwiches or one sandwich there. And we'll check with Colleen. All right. Close it out. I might have made a horrible mistake there, not taking you up on that. Close it out, Wes. I mean, Erica.

Actually, Erica now. Me as Erica, not Wes. Exactly. You didn't want, you didn't want an onion hanging for me in that right i think west went this round right so you yeah oh you didn't go yet i'm sorry mark i mean it's a very complicated you won't like this one begin with now i know you're going to say this is this is too close to something i predicted before but i think that that prediction was simply a feeling about the future that was a little too soon and a little too high stakes and a

little too pointed okay all right but you have to go back to the events of nine eleven for a time when the league had to reschedule an entire week's slate of games. Not cancel, but reschedule. Did you just make a 9-11 ref? I am telling you that this season, the league will be forced to reschedule an entire week of games. Are you with me? So you're predicting a natural disaster slash national tragedy?

I am not suggesting. We don't know that that's the necessarily. We don't know that that would be the incident. But it would be a, I called it a major. life event. Mark, you have to stand by what you're wagering here. I'm not predicting what the event is. And you know the only way an entire week gets

wiped out is a natural disaster or a national tragedy. Or, or it could be in response to something, in response to something outside of those two boxes. I'm not predicting what the event is. A world event. A life event. I will definitely take

you up on that. I would take you up with vigor and I really, I don't like the, yeah, what's behind it. I'm rooting for, you know, I'm sorry that I can't give you coddly little onion hangers that are simply based on like statistical output from one player or something. This is an onion hanger. You're looking. And I am telling you, I have a feeling this will happen.

You're looking for apocalyptic events to happen. I, on the other hand, I'm rooting for the world. I want our country to be safe. Greg, that's a very, that's a very safe point of view. But sometimes major events need to happen to have the world wake up and change. the way they operate. Doesn't it seem so? So I disagree with your assumption

that because you're rooting for everything to stay status quo, where are we going with status quo? Not anywhere good. So that's a huge assumption by you. You're right. I am going with data. The last time they canceled,

the only times they've ever canceled the entire week has been national tragedy. So I'm hoping that does that. I will go, yeah, I am, because I'm going to root against 9-11 part two. So I will say, go get my lunch. Go get my lunch.

I hope that I am buying you lunch on this. I'm not rooting for it. I'm not rooting for it. I don't know. I did say earlier that, of course, you're picking things that you're rooting for when it was... Not in this case. Okay.

I like Greg's continual efforts to put me into a box ideologically, but it's not working. I don't think... I certainly, I know you, Mark, because you're a good man, you don't want to see death and destruction. Death and destruction happens every day whether you're looking for it or not. No, on a mass scale in this country.

but I think there's also part of it with some of these wagers where you want something big to happen. It's kind of like the Dark Night Returns type thing. The Dark Night, what was the third Batman movie? Batman 3? Batman 3, whatever. The third Nolan movie? You want something to come up.

Batman 3, this time is serious. An uprising of sorts. I will just say one more time that I do think that there is a scenario where this could happen that is not simply based off of a cut out of something we've seen in the past. Okay. That we are in strange times. All right.

Here we go. Finally, Erica, here you go. Your stage is yours. All right, here we go. You guys ready for this one? Very ready. Okay. Julian Edelman will play at some point this season.

Oh. Love it. Love it. For real. That is the best one we've ever had from a producer. Right. It's the best one because it's in the books and it's officially over. I'm taking you up on that.

You can buy us the sandwiches because he's, you know, by league rule, he cannot play football this year. He is on injured reserve. His season is over. That's not true, Greg, because no longer do you have to designate your return from IR guy at the moment of IR. You could keep him there and then decide in October. He's got a shot at it.

He has to be on the roster after the. He's going to be on the roster. He's going to be on the roster. You watch. If anyone is going to come back, it's Julian Edelman and you wait. I love what you did. I'm going to take you up on it because I don't see it as probable,

but I love the scenario you came up with. There's no probable. He's out for the season. You have to be on the roster past the cuts to be eligible to come back. Is he already off the roster? They put him on injured reserve. Am I crazy?

Well, then I'll definitely take you up on it. See, this is tricky. I would like to know the details behind this because they did change the IR rule that there's two boomerang spots and you no longer have to say at that moment that they're designated for that spot. You know what I mean?

But it's so clicked over when they created the official 53-man roster. You know what? They did wait here. There's an update. Even though that they had said. Greg, you just announced this as fact. They did wait until Saturday to put him on IR. So in theory he would be eligible.

They did announce that he's out for the season. They used those words. But he would be eligible. That's a tough one. I need to do some research. I'm going to hold on that. Is that allowed? I'm pretty sure players put.

on injured reserve on Saturday. We're not eligible to be. No, I are boomerang for him. Okay. Finally, there you go. There's all our lunch props. And hopefully, if Nick is still interested in this podcast, he is updating this. We have no evidence to state that he's no longer interested in the show.

I'm just going to work under the assumption, Nick, who does an amazing job, we'll have all this tracked on go get my lunch.org. Finally, real quick, the season starts on Thursday with the Kansas City Chiefs being led into New England to face the Patriots. Mark will start with you on this one, and then we'll pick the games at the end, pick the game at the end. What is, from the Chief's perspective,

how do they steal this game? Because it feels like they are in very close to a no-win situation. How do the Chiefs steal this win? Well, two things they probably can't do. One, which would be completely rattle and undermine Tom Brady out of the gate to the point where New England feels

uncomfortable in their home field, not going to happen. Number two, though, the Chiefs, even with Alex Smith on the field, forget Patrick Mahomes, were more aggressive this preseason. And whether it's Tyreek Hill, whether it's Travis Kelsey, you take it to New England early. You don't play what is typical Chiefs ball, which has run the ball 45 times, you know, a bunch of checkdown passes, and you're trying to hang in the game and win it with your defense. You have got to play differently to have a chance in this game if you're Kansas City.

Again, I don't know if they can do that. I don't have a high confidence level. You know, Alex Smith said it, and it sounded like he was. He's just saying something to make himself feel better. But I think he's right. He said, week one is a great time to play the Patriots. Yes, it's that opening kickoff. The history is not great.

Of course, it's always going to be hard to go into Foxborough. But they've played their worst games in September traditionally. They're worse at the beginning of the season. And their defense to me is a concern. And when I watch the Chiefs in the preseason, the thing I always believe is like, this is a team that knows what they're doing. They know the playbook. Alex Smith had a really strong preseason, had a good training game.

This is a team that does not need to warm up. They looked very professional in the preseason. They're going against a weakness in the Patriots in terms of their defense of front seven. So I think this could be a pretty entertaining game, high scoring. Of course, I like the Patriots to win it eventually. But I think it could be a game that's in the high 20s, in the 30s, and it's got some firepower until the Patriots pull away late.

I feel like we'll know pretty quickly in this game whether it's going to be something interesting to watch at the three-hour mark because I could totally see a scenario where Patriots up 14-0 midway through the first quarter. But, and I'll say this, Tom Brady, it's not giving him enough respect to say he can be rattled. But if you do find a way to consistently get to him with the pass rush and get him uncomfortable, get him moving around,

he can be affected physically. He is 40 years old. But at the end of the day, I think the Chiefs will not be embarrassed, but I think they'll eventually get overwhelmed and just not be able to hang. So I will say 34 to 20 Patriots over Chiefs and a big game from Grunk. I'll say 3427 if we're throwing out scores. Have a nice fun game. I'll go 30 to 13.

Rex Burkhead blows up. There you go. So there you go. Those are week run predictions. And like I said, next time you hear from us will be Thursday night, late Thursday on the East Coast, because we will have a full recap of this game as well as, preview of all the rest of the week one game. So thank you to everyone that is listened this far.

It's time for another season. I think our fifth together. Is that correct? That's right. Yep. So we're real excited to get this thing going. So till Thursday, this is Dan Hansa signing off for the sizzler, Connie Fox, the boss, the mailman chipping in.

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