NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Granting One Wish To NFL Teams

Episode Date: May 28, 2019

A room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Chris Wesseling, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all the latest news around the NFL including QB Bart Starr passing away at age 85, (6:15) Ben Watson's failed drug test (12:34), and McNabb claiming he's a Hall of Famer (20:00). Aladdin did so well at the box office this weekend that the heroes decided to become genies themselves and grant one wish to NFL teams. (30:56)Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I'm joined in a room filled with Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesleying, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey, Dan. It is, officially, we are 100 days away from NFL 100. The kickoff of the 2019 season is 100 days away. How about that?

Exactly, as we tape. As we tape on Tuesday afternoon, we are 100 ways. Well, no, we'd be in the middle. We'd be at the edge of the first games of the morning here in L.A. It's 1.12 p.m. and veering into the second games. Right. But from a day's, I'm not saying to the hour or to the minute. I am.

100 days away. Well, this is our time. This is the best time of year. Let's be real about it. Memorial Day weekend is a nice part of it. We had Wes's wedding. And it's still continuing until about, you know, training camp. So this is the time.

So you get Matt Money Smith can eat it with his little start in terms of stretching content. This is time of the year to stretch our legs, enjoy our families and friends. That's nice. Let's continue to verbally assault people who have been working for free for almost seven years on this show. Speaking of spending time with family, I was at Legoland. A very nice family, well, since, you know, you're on the plan. you're on the May plan, which means engaged in May, married in May, kid one in May, kid two in May, you're going to become familiar with Legoland in about four years or so.

And it was quite nice. I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed getting a bunch of mentions about being a shirtless firefighter. And I don't know all the context yet. I have not dug into Friday's show, but it sounded like it was a fun time with Steve Weish. But that was surprising. I think you were celebrated with that. be fair?

Absolutely. You're a focal part of Mark Sessler's guided meditation. 60 seconds only. It was a nice little interlude that relaxed everyone or aroused others. A certain population of the audience. No deeds of your own, Dan. I now think of you as a much more manly presence because of Mark's guided meditation. Well, that sounds good.

Part of me doesn't even want to check. There's a little bit of a mystery to it. You pretty much know the, you pretty much know the other. You could probably fill in the blanks. The story at this point. All right. Coming up on today's show, we're going to hit the news, including the death of one of the great players in NFL history. So we'll get to that.

And also, genies are hot right now. I mean, there's no way around it. There's no two ways around it. Everyone's talking about it. People are buzzing about genies. We're living in the age of the genie sons. Aladdin. Greg, I know you love that website, boxofficemojo.com.

I just, well, I went with box office guru. They're rival right now. Just to check what Aladdin did for the weekend. Well, it cast out over $100 million over Memorial Day weekend. So genies are hot, and there's no way around it, so we're going to lean into that. And that's a good way to grow listenership and also just be part of the zeitguise. You want to be part of the national conversation. Is that a sitar?

That's some Arabians. music, right? That feels a little it's titarish. It feels like Aladdin, though, I mean, it did monster business. Absolutely. Jeannies are hot. Mix reviews, a lot of people

whining about it. But kind of like how Big Bang Theory gets higher ratings than Game of Thrones yet, like, no one really talks about I mean, even this season with game, you know. Sure. You know, but no one really talks about it. I feel like Aladdin,

it's not on the tip of a lot of people's tongues that I know. Well, 100 million. Well, I mean, it was, to Europe, lashed by critics, which I've not seen the film. so I don't know why, but they found it to be wanting. So, box office proof. With that in mind, we will put on our genie hats.

I don't want to say something culturally insensitive, so I'm just going to call it a genie hat. I don't really know the background of genies in a big picture. I never saw Aladdin, the cartoon or this live action film. So the genie hat, you put it on. It's got the feather on it and the jewel. Am I doing okay? I've never seen Aladdin.

Ricky, this was your generation, right, Aladdin? How could you guys not have seen it? seen aladdin no aladdin is our generation that's how old but i never are i never saw any disney movies almost they saw like one or two and then it was like who are you people it was like hey what do we need i was in my 20s when it came out why would i be watching but he's never seen any disney movie oh yeah i'm saying a couple my mom my mom took me to like beauty in the beast or something when i'm seven i was like i don't need to see any more of these and i was like no that's a classic you don't need to see anymore that's classic born age 32 because everyone knows that beauty of the

Beast came out in 92. Greg's just making up stuff saying he was seven. That would have been like what, 86? Whatever the first Disney, you're right, that it probably was not beating the Beast. Have you ever seen Pinocchio? Little Mermaid. It was well, yeah, it might have been, yeah, I think that was it. It was one when I was like eight or nine, and it was like that once was enough.

I was trying to get out of there halfway through. It was nice. I like the mermaid. All right. Anyway, what I was trying to say was that we're going to put on those hats. And then we're going to. grant a wish to NFL teams. So we're going to go around the horn a couple times,

maybe three times to try to hit a bunch of teams and give a wish that will grant a wish. That's the correct way to put it. That will aid a team immeasurably in 2019 and perhaps beyond. All right. There you go. Let's do some news.

16 seconds remaining, 17 to 14. Take the staff. He's got the quarterback, he's got to the touchdown of the pimpings around in front. And the greenway backers. are going to be world champions. Ah, yes, Bart Starr, his famous quarterback sneak in the Ice Bowl. Star passed away on Sunday in Birmingham, Alabama, at 85 years old.

One of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, of course, part of the Holy Trinity of Green Bay Quarterbacks, Star Fav Rogers. Well, it all started with Starr who won an unprecedented five NFL championships as the Packers starter in 61, 62, 65, 66, 67, and was known in addition to being the leader of that team and the quarterback, but one of the great playoff players of all time, the guy that, in addition, just being the field general, stepped up to play in January when it mattered most, and that's how legends are made. and that's what Bart Starr was. He had suffered a number of health setbacks over the years, including strokes that had severely limited his ability to communicate. Peter King wrote about it in his column on Monday. The effort just to say a simple sentence late in his life became a great challenge.

So Starr dealt with a lot of challenges late in his life, but he will be remembered as a Packer is great and one of the more important players, Chris Wesleying, in the history of the National Football League. I think a lot of people think of Vince Lombardi as the greatest football coach of all time, and some people consider him the greatest American coach in any sport of all time. Bart Starr was an extension of him on the field, and this is a time for our younger listeners or those new to the game.

In the 1960s, quarterbacks called their own plays, with the exception of Paul Brown's quarterbacks. Listen up, Tim Posse. He could learn something here. Bart Starr called His Own Plays, and I remember reading a book called One More July by George Plimpton and Bill Curry, and they were talking about coming up with the perfect quarterback of the 1960s based on composite traits. And a lot of it is Unitas, like Unitas's toughness, his accuracy. But the one area I think where they talked about, you would want Bart Starr's game management, strategy, and play calling.

He was calling his own plays. He looked across the line of scrimmage, diagnosed defenses in the same way that Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, have done in this generation. And he was the best at it. So I think that, to me, you know about his playoff record. You know about the five championships, the quarterback of arguably the greatest dynasty in the 20th century. And I think that that's his legacy. Well, and he, first of all, he won three straight. So he has the five titles because a lot of times when they show, okay, Brady's got six and they show Super Bowls.

It always kind of bothers me because it's like, well, you know, Bart Star kind of gets job there. Just because he won the first two Super Bowl MVP's first of all, which is, you know, that's no one's ever going to. to do something like that. He's the only person to have won three straight as a quarterback. You know, Tom Brady hasn't been able to do that. But I think what stands out with him is that, like, Lombardi wouldn't have gotten to Lombardi without Bart Starr. You know, he was a backup. He had gotten benched at one point, but at some point, they were starting to roll teams offensively. There was a big championship game against the Browns where it was expected to be like this titanic battle of the two best teams, and they rolled them up 55 to 7, and Bart Starr is throwing

passes all up and down the field. I kind of went into, you know, when I first started in football, thinking the same thing, that he's just kind of this game manager that got carried along by the team around him, but it really wasn't like that. You mentioned that the Lombardi needed Star and Star needed Lombardi. You could say the same thing with Belichick and Brady. It's the conversation we have today about who's more important.

And this is, to me, one step that stands out in terms of all-time dominant stretches. And yes, we're witnessing one right now in a never-end. fashion in New England. But from 1961 to 67, Star went 69, 18, and 4 as a starter in the regular season, and 9 in the playoffs. They defined 60s football. I also think he played till age 37, which you think back then, oh, no quarterback obviously could fare well, which there were a handful of guys that played way longer than most thought. And he played his last three plus seasons as almost a favor to the Packers per stories because he wanted to retire. And they didn't have the proper quarterback to hand the team off to.

So who would do that today? Hang around for nearly half a decade longer to do the Green Bay Packers a favor. There was this other great story where a fan basically wrote him and said, you know, after one of the many infrequent failures they had, they were so easy to watch

that he was running out and he was done with the Packers, this fan. And Bart Starr wrote him and he said, we are sorry to lose you as a fan, of course, but what is sadder is the example you are setting for your own sons. I hope while you redirect their young minds in the future, you will include tolerance so that when you occasionally err or unintentionally disappoint them,

they will not lose their faith in you. Dropping a bomb on someone through the U.S. hand, not a literal bomb, a verbal bomb. The other thing is around the time, and I know Wes and I are so much older than YouTube, it's like when we would start watching football in the mid-80s, like legit, that's pretty. Every Sunday, they would drop on you clips of the ice bowl,

clips of Bart Starr. And to us, and when you're growing up, you look back and you think, those guys must have toiled 50, 60, 70 years ago because it's grainy black and white footage. But the space between that time and the clip they were showing is no different than watching rookie year highlights of Tom Brady at this point. Meaning we are very old, but that ancient time really was not as far away as we think. And Bart Starr was a pivotal foundational member of the NFL we watched today.

in a million ways. He coached for nine seasons too and had a really rough record. That would never happen in the NFL now that he almost had no winning seasons. That didn't go well because he was always almost

they said he was afraid to criticize but like one of his famous moments as a player is essentially told Lombardi stop, you know, he confronted him, stop kind of taking me down in front of the team that he thought it was bad for the team and no one had really stood up as much to Lombardi before and that was kind of

when he became the guy. Well, Unitas, his famous quote is You don't become a quarterback until you can tell your coach to go to hell. Yeah. There you go. Bart Starr dead at the age of 85. Moving on to modern NFL talk. We'll start on the throne of slees, where the New England Patriots, of course, are moving on or seeking to move on from the Rob Gruncowski era.

Part of that was bringing Ben Watson out of retirement, but there's a little bit of a snag there because Watson revealed in a face. Facebook post on Sunday that he failed a drug test administered in March. And there's a little more to this story than usual when these things pop up because Watson was very open about it. He owned it. He said, hey, listen, I retired. It was 38. I was done. I went to a doctor.

I was all banged up because these guys, their bodies just get brutalized. And I was administered or prescribed a medication that would make me feel better and make me heal up in a more speedy fashion. and it happens to be what that was, bioidentical testosterone seponate, which West takes every day. I don't think I could afford it. That explains the body. It's starting to make sense.

That falls under the NFL's banned substances list. So when the Patriots brought him out of retirement, Watson didn't even realize it first, and then bang, he gets hit with the positive test, which triggers the four-game ban. So, again, and we talk about this, I feel like on this podcast, we're all in lockstep that the idea of performance enhancing drugs is a difference between

when a guy like Dion Jordan gets popped and what was the famous uh I love it look like his shoulders were inflated yeah yeah blown up and what happens with these players because their their bodies take such a beating they just trying to get better and Watson was not trying to beat the system or anything like that he's just trying to get better in general I would think Greg that they should loosen up some of these things just to let the players heal and let modern medicine do what modern medicine can do but Watson out four games but he'll be back and the Patriots built into the contract

potential escalators to recover the lost money. They knew they knew so he found out he had already decided he wouldn't come back or he was open to it but then he found out literally that week as he was talking to teams primarily the Patriots that this was going to happen so they knew it before they signed him and they decided to

sign him anyways maybe not the worst thing in the world for a 38 year old guy to play 12 12 games. It does kind of point out, though, like, how crazy that, like, doc, you know, how crazy a spot it is for players and the league that, like, it's good for his body. You know, doctors prescribe what the NFL counts as PEDs all the time at this point, you know, test out. You know, it was, like, good for him to recover. And yet it's something you can't take. And the cloudiness that must be draped over any time anyone goes into a doctor post career or even during a career and has recommended something,

whose job is it to safety check all the ingredients and find out if you're going to get banged with a suspension? Right. He said he didn't even think about it because he thought he was retired. I will tell you once again, and I've mentioned it before, and I'll mention it every two weeks. Seth DeValve will be signed to the Patriots.

He will play a major goal. Is he unsigned right now? He's on Cleveland, so either I think he's going to get dumped by Cleveland at one point and get added or I can see a low-level trade, which in theory will become a high-level trade when he catches $80. What's your P-scale? on Devalve and Gordon having some key playoff moments

to your consternation in 2020. You know, I think last year when Gordon went to the Patriots, the Browns were nothing that they are right now and it was just another massive annoyance. Couldn't care less today. You deal with Josh Gordon. You deal with it. And it's interesting around this time with this Ben Watson situation

is coming out, Chris Long, who recently retired, said that, you know, he smoked weed all the time as a player because the NFL drug policy was fairly easy to manipulate or just use common sense because you knew your testing date ahead of time. And he said he didn't do, you know, he's not doing that to be, you know, listen to sublime records and hang out of hookapoo's.

He's doing it because it was, it helped him heal mentally and physically. Yeah, Steve Weish added some really rich details and analysis to that subject on Friday. Was it Steve? You know, by the way, I'm just getting to... Steve Weish's body, by the way.

It's tight. It's outrageous. Do you guys talk about that, too? Well, I mean, we knew you would want to. I made a comment just how he was the eldest states, elder statesman in the room, but he clearly was in the best shape. And that inspired him to flex, which was caught beautifully by our social. That's the only thing I think you would have wanted to have been in the studio for.

It was quite a sight to the eyes. But I also would like if we don't talk about that show anymore. Okay. It's come up twice now. I think it's... You brought it up for the... I mean, we... I was being magnanimous early on.

You know, you're taking a little shot at Sublime, but I feel like there's been like a mild, critical, um, reckoning with Sublime that they're getting a little more love now than they were back in the day. People are like, you know what? Sublime actually, they were pretty good. I always loved Sublime. I did too.

You know, not everything needs a think piece. You know, the Sublime need to... Do we need a reckoning about Sublime? They're back. They were fine. They were great. I think the word mild was appropriately used there. Gerald McCoy is still on the market.

He met with the Cleveland Browns last week after his release from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. After 10 seasons there, he spent time with Cleveland but left without a contract. Tom Pelliserra reported they had a good meeting. Mark, pay attention here. They had a good meeting it was termed between McCoy and the Browns. But he's going to meet now with the Baltimore Ravens that was supposed to. to happen today, Tuesday. The Bengals and Panthers, according to Mike Garifola,

other teams that have expressed interest in signing the six-time pro-ball defensive tackle. McCoy has also let it be known. He wants to sign with a contender. Speaking of things that have changed, Mark, for your Cleveland Browns. So that does not take the Browns out of the mix by any stretch. So McCoy, expect them to sign with a team that's in good condition right now

as we enter the 2019 season. It just hasn't happened yet. Well, I mean, if you're the team that he's already visited and left the building and upcoming are the Ravens, the cults, the saints, and potentially the Patriots is interested suitors, you'd want to have gotten them, I think, before the holiday weekend, got him signed, get the whole thing moving. Now you're having to, like, track him down while he's hanging out with John Harbaub, not as easy. Big time player. 45 plus pressures the last two years. If he was one of our top 101 free agency, he would have been in my top six or so. But does the game match the name at this point?

Yes or no, Chris Wessling. Yes. So I don't study into your defensive linemen as much as I should. Reverse Humblebred. But what I've read about him is that he can still rush the passer, but more than ever, he doesn't hold the line against the run. That he cheats to get into position to rust the passer and freelances a lot. And freelancing, it's one of those fuzzy terms that's hard to pick up on tape

if you don't know the defense or the assignments. But it's usually what, that's how players get released. Gotcha. Moving on. Donovan McNabb, you remember him. He played many years for the Eagles, spent some time with the Redskins. But 11 of his 13 NFL seasons with the Eagles, 167 games. He threw for 234 touchdowns, pile up a whole mess of yards, almost 38,000 yards.

And in general, it was one of the, if we did the Dalton scale back in McNab's prime, he certainly was on the right side of that scale for many years. He would like to say he was on something called TMZ sports like a television show apparently. I know they have the website, but there's a TV show and he was on it. He was asked if he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. And McNabb said, absolutely, I'm not hesitating on that. I am a Hall of Famer. My numbers speak for itself.

My numbers are better than Troy Aikman, but he has Super Bowl rings and he's played with Hall of Famers as well. Greg, you just you, would it scoffed? Well, the Aikman thing. Yeah. Give me a break. Is Donovan McNabb? I'm going to open up the floor here.

Worthy of the Hall of Fame or at least in the discussion, a serious consideration. Absolutely consideration and discussion. And he seems like a guy who might be right near the border to me that he is in that mix. Because I look at it more like how many top 10 seasons did you add? More importantly, how many. top five seasons did you have? If I was doing the old QB index back then, I think McNabb would have been about five or six in the league for a long time. Like he had a much better career, I think, and was a better player than Eli Manning, for instance, or some other quarterbacks that have gotten in just

off of playoff run, that he was a top five to six type of guy for much of his career. Sometimes it comes down to one game for these Hall of Fame things. And I remember 10 years ago, I think it was late in the playoff game against the Arizona Cardinals for the NFC championship. McNab ends up throwing for 375 yards and 3 TDs. The Eagles lose. And I remember thinking,

if he wins that game, he's going to the Hall of Fame. Right. He still got five years left in his career. He still can do this. And then they lost. And I said, I bet he doesn't go to the Hall of Fame because of that loss. And if he, that game,

if he finds a way to beat the Patriots and the Super Bowl, and it is, I would say, Eagles fans would probably think this, although I think he has a bit of a complicated relationship with the Eagles fans. The story, whether it's true or not, I think it's true, that he threw up on the field and that last key drive against New England. That's kind of, to me anyway, what, if you say Donovan McNeb, what do you think of?

I think of him throwing up on the field in the Super Bowl against the Patriots and being completely winded when the clock's ticking down and they're down two scores. Not Andy Reid's Finest moment either No, Reed deserves heat About how they handled the clock there And Reed's always been famous About being poor with the clock

But that sticks to you too I mean Eli Manning maybe not as good a quarterback As Donovan McNabb Talent-wise But he has two Super Bowl MVP And Mcnav threw up on the field of Super Bowl I know he's also on television And in that world he has to say

He should not be Provocative stuff Well he was on Art Network for a while And I remember one sitting next to him He doesn't do himself any favors No but he was like consistently seems like, hey, can you look this up for me? And I'm like, I'm actually writing articles,

but I'll be happy to look up stats for Donovan McNabb who's sitting next to me in the studio. But I don't need the, I don't need him to bring up the Aikman comparison on any level. This is what he does. He can't compliment himself without tearing someone else down. But that's like, his Hall of Fame argument is completely separate to me. Aikman did exactly what he was asked to do.

And there were a huge pocket of people that started the, Tony Romo has better stats than Troy Akeman. We're talking about a different generation. Exactly, 20 years separating it. Now McNabb's stats actually look as good as they are for much of his career. They would look even better now because he was thrown 400 passes a year, 450. He was a running quarterback. But like, you know, I think Terrell Davis and some of the guys that have been on our air and other networks,

I think it helps them ultimately get into the hall. I think it helps a little bit that they're just kind of in the mix. McNabb's like the opposite. The more he talks, the less chance I think he gets. Because he... The Pete Rose. This is not the first time he's popped up in the news. It's been many, many times.

And he lacks self-awareness. He's his own worst enemy. And it's going to get harder and harder for quarterbacks of yesterday year to make any fringe quarterbacks to make any argument because their numbers are going to be utterly drowned out. I think I'm very high on him and I think he's borderline. I think he has very, very little chance to actually make it, though. Also, stop using stats in football discussions.

bang okay three more quick items here i'll just spin through them richie incognito signs a one-year contract with the raiders mike mayock spoke at raiders o'tia's today and made it clear that this is very much a touch-and-go situation incognito who's had a host of issues on the field off the field you name it has to be a good citizen inside and outside the locker room but after coming out of retirement he was still a very productive guard for the bills in those recent seasons. So he signs a deal. J.J. Watt, he's engaged to a soccer player,

Kiliah, Ohai. And he did the thing on Twitter or Instagram or social media where he had somebody stationed with a camera to get the in-real-time photo, which I'm a little disappointed. West didn't do this. I feel like there's something Wes would do, but maybe he didn't have a handler nearby to take the photo.

So him actually proposing in the same thing. Arod did it and now J.J. Watt does it. And there's some connected tissue with a yacht in the background. With a yacht in the background on a jetty, it appears, and what may be in Nantucket. Are we already at the stage where Wes is receiving brushback and, you know, I guess it would be criticism for the process of his getting married and when he went through.

I'm just saying, we're a week away from the after. You would have liked that. Wes and Lecichita, a very social media savvy couple. If he knew Erica better back then maybe, you know. That's true. Erica didn't shoot the wedding. I don't think I've ever been, no, accused of being social media. I know this one was on, these pictures were on Mark's radar for sure.

Well, I mean, I think I'm happy for him and he's a overt sort of luscious male product. He looks very good in the photos. It looks great. And his clothing line. I mean, what a shirt he makes. And I wear it all the time. All the time. All the product.

Excellent. Every day. Tremendous. And finally in the news, Pat Shermer spoke at Giants OTAs talking about their quarterback situation. Eli Manning and rookie Daniel Jones, you know, noted that they both have calm demeanors, but both are, quote, fiery under the covers. Would not have guessed it, but sometimes you never know. How did that come up? They were talking about, I don't know.

I can't piece it together to you. I'm just saying what he said, under the covers, fireballs. Sometimes you get surprised by those things. Yeah. Yeah, just even that Shermer would know. Right. How is this in his Ben diagram of information? Extensive scouting department.

I do like all the pictures, which just... It was part of the combine, by the way. Sort of the interview process. The memes where it's just basically like the Spider-Man meme, except it's Daniel Jones and Elon. It is weird. Like, it's like them just like as... Yeah, it's great.

Maybe he's like a secret late period. had Manning brother that was raised up in a different family. You know, that happens in, like, backstory. He's much younger. He's a little bit better looking. And if he's a little bit better as a player, well, they made the right move. Let's see. Let's just drill down to what Mark's implying here.

So you're saying that Archie Manning potentially had a secret child that was raised elsewhere under a different name. I'm not necessarily, you know, putting Archie Manning out there as the guilty party. It could be anyone related to either parent. I'm not suggesting that this also is the case. If they look this much alike, their body language mirrors each other. I would just say it's out there as a suspicious scenario. And you're best friends with the quarterback. And then you're drafted by the Giants after the Giants have spent two years coddling,

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He used to do the Icky shuffle as he was selling Omaha steaks to people. Life's tough. I mean, I would buy them, though. I'd buy steaks off of Icky. I think he shouldn't have to be shuffling to sell steaks. Batman. Well, he's had a bit of a resurgence, you know, in the last half-decade. It sounds like it.

I interviewed Icky right when he had that. I think it was a Geico commercial where he... Yeah. And it was played constantly, and I'm sure it was a nice windfall from financially, which doesn't sound like a bad thing. And he seemed pretty pleased with himself. This was about 2014 or 13. I maintain that Ikey has always been an interesting character

and he made following football more enjoyable for a lot of people. See, there's that soft spot in your heart for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, that was back when I was a fan. It's coming around again. Not bloody likely. I mean, it was really a one-year sensation of sorts. Well, he blew out his ACL the next year. You got your money worth.

Omaha. Genies are hot right now Everybody knows No one's refuting it It's just that's what's going on In society And as I noted earlier We have a popular NFL podcast

Well it didn't happen by accident We surf the zeitgeist That's what we do here Surf the Zekeast So what we're doing here There's a big genie show too A cartoon shimmer and shine See you got a girl

With the young girls Okay very good See? Plugged in. Genies. Unstoppable right now. So I'm going to put on the genie hat, and I'm going to hand them out to you guys.

Bang, bang, bang. Genie hat, ruby, feather. Erica, can you look up the proper term for the genie hat? Isn't it a turban? Oh, careful. I don't know. Just want to make sure we have it right. I'll let someone else go on record with the...

Yeah, I mean, the only potential thing that's been offensive about any of this is you even just bringing up that it could be offensive. Wait, doesn't Will Smith have a top knot and not even a hat whatsoever? I haven't seen the film. But you sound like you know. I read an article on Will Smith. Some more... DTG.

This is more like the... This is more like the cliche, you know, the signature genie of our past. Gotcha. All right. And I dream of. Now you went too far back. Oh, sorry. Okay, here we go.

So we're all going to go around the horn. We're genies. We're going to grant one wish to NFL teams. Be somewhat quick about it. We want to hit as many teams as possible. But dig in, and we're going to start with Greg Rosenthal. No, I'm pointed over there. I want to see the vibe of what's going on.

Oh, you want to get the vibe? Yeah, yeah. You want the vibe. All right, Chris Wesleying. Well, I don't know if I should be. All right, let me start. I'll do it. Oh, okay, go ahead.

You know, I'm the lead-off hitter here. All right, there you are. And we got a big game coming up Wednesday, the shield after a rain out. Play ball! Four and two. Got to finish in that top three to be in the top four to be in the playoffs. Any threat not to? Four and two sounds a good record.

I think we're going to have to essentially win about five of seven to close out to make the playoffs, which isn't impossible. It's a different structure this year. Well, you could field a team of garbage cans against some of these teams in the league and still win. Right. There's eight teams. You've got to get in that top four to be in the playoffs. Oh, okay. All right. Anyway, I like your chances, guys. Thanks, Greg. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. All right. Here we go, Wes. Get us going.

Well, it's a make or break season for the Texans offensive line. And the wish I'm going to grant them is that their first and second round draft picks Titus Howard and Max Sharping become instant impact bookend tackles. And they never have to play Matt Khalil or Centrel Henderson for even one. snap of the 2019 season. Concise, beautiful. That's why you should I hit Greg go first? I was too busy. I was trying to communicate with eyes with Erica,

and I wasn't listening, so I missed it. Well, I think it sounds like you didn't miss much. What I was looking for was context clues from Greg or Mark. No, I was going to jump in. Then I didn't get it. I think it's a great wish to grant, because it's not just a wish for Deshawn Watson or Texans fans. or Bill O'Brien, it's for all NFL fans.

Because if you guys, you've seen on Twitter the last handful of days, those tear makers, you know, the, it's been very hot, you know the tears. Surfing the zeitgeist. A lot of zeitgeistee quarterback. It's a delightful little internet joke. But what I've noticed in some of these tears, Deshawn Watson, it's like people are still like waiting and seeing to see about Deshawn Watson. And they're kind of like, okay, yeah, he's good.

But like, I don't think people are giving him the full. full respect for a man who came back from a tour in ACO and did what he did and did what he did as a rookie. And it's partly because of these offensive, it's largely because of these offensive linemen aren't giving him the optimal chance to shine as much as he can. So I want to see that. I think the one negative result of that would be that Bill O'Brien and his GM friend, like, who have essentially done nothing. His name is Brian Gayne. I know you love him. Like they did they did too little to solve this issue. They've tried. They had tried. They They've thrown stuff at it, but I don't think they've thrown anything.

It's the opposite of what a team in their own division, the cults did with their offensive line over the past couple years. And they get away with looking too good. But that's what Genies do. Genies give you things you maybe don't deserve organically. Just to play devil's advocate, I think Brian Gain would say, look what I've had to pick from on the free agent market in the draft. I mean, you can't expect me to make chicken salad.

Yeah, I'm not. I think Brian Gane escapes some of the... I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the offensive line goes. I think offensive lines are largely about coaching. All right. I'm going to grant a wish.

I'm putting on the hat. What is it called? I'm seeing Jeannie Turbin or Sultan Turban. I can't get it. They occasionally wear off. The Fez is occasionally thrown in as well. I'm doing that off of research. It's not, you know.

There we go. You'll see the Fez. All right, here we go. Here's mine. Sammy Watkins. You know, here's my wish. It's a wish for the Kansas City Chiefs that Sammy Watkins becomes the star. Two teams have been waiting for him to become for six years.

And he was limited to 10 games last year because of that foot injury. It was the fifth straight season. He didn't play a full season. Second time in three years, he's missed at least six games. And he tweeted this, and this is an interesting tweet. I will be the best this year, mark my word. I want it more now than I ever did before in my life. I'm sacrificing everything to get where I once was.

The world will now get to witness my greatness again. Hashtag Starship 14. Hashtag limitless 14. A lot of stuff there. But anyway, Tyra Kills in Limbo. Mikul Hardman from Georgia. They took him in the second round. And a lot has been made about that Hardman needs to make an instant impact in year one.

And that's probably true. but I think a lot of people, at least I'll speak for myself, are kind of overlooking that Sammy Watkins, they gave the guy three or $48 million deal last year, about 14 months ago with $31,000, $32 million guaranteed in the first two years. He's supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to be a star with Travis Kelsey, and they're supposed to make this offense go still.

So that is the wish I grant as the genie that Sammy Watkins finally realizes that potential. And he's still only 25, which is crazy. He's turning 26 next month. Does anyone in this studio know whether Sammy Watkins is a good or bad football player? Well, relative to who? I have no idea if he's good or bad.

He's the least confident football evaluation in my life, I think. I think he's, I'm confident he can play, you know, as a starter in the NFL. Whether he's a difference maker at all to me is. The last time we saw in the field, he had four for 114 against the Pats and the championship game that loss. Yeah. He can do it. He just never put it together.

He has his moments. But I will say this, and I even texted Rapsheet to get his name, everybody's got to fire their agent and hire Tori Dandy. That's Sammy Watkins' agent. That guy did a nice job. If you want to get paid, you go to Tori Dandy's office. Tori Dandy, obviously, a bit of a genie himself. I look at a guy in Sammy Watkins who had early career injury issues left and right,

played with Kyle Lorton, Tyrod Taylor, a bunch of nothing in Buffalo. And suddenly you go to the Rams and it's like, all right, now you're going to get a chance to see what he's really about. But then suddenly he's in Kansas City. He's running out of excuses from the quarterback angle at this point. He's in a great, he's in the best situation of his career. And I wouldn't put it past some receivers once in a while, finally in around year five or six, becoming what they want.

But I couldn't agree more that he's totally an enigma. I think he was a Making the Leap candidate at one point, and we're still waiting on that town. He's an enigma no more. The wish. Not after this. I don't know. He's been in like the two best offenses in the league,

and he's just put on the turban, bro. I put on the turban. And now I know that's fine. Yeah. Greg? All right. I'm putting on the turban. And I'm granting a wish to the Jacksonville Jaguars receivers this year.

And I'm saying D.D. Westbrook. DJ Chark. How about let's throw him in. Mark Keseley. I'm going to grant you a wish that the ball is where you expect it to be when you try to catch it this year, where you're going to catch it in stride. Something new.

Something new in your life. AJ Bouye said this week that he notices in practice. He notices plays in practice. He's not making as many plays because Nick Foles is actually putting the ball where it's supposed to be. This is a franchise that hasn't seen an accurate pass in like six years. Give me okay That's what I wish

That is one of the most useful wishes in the entire conference Yeah I've granted it Give it They deserve it I think they're gonna just PEP's gonna be in their step

Gabbert was drafted in 2011 so it's been longer than 60s Right It's been like a decade since they've seen an accurate pet Who knows? These guys might be unbelievable I like that

Edie Westberg might be Jerry Rice for all we know We're gonna find out now That's why this is such an exciting Segg Mark It's a useful wish I mean, when I think of having a genie, I think of asking for something like the most powerful thing I could ever imagine.

So as my move for Jeannie, we just talked about him, I'm giving Pat Schumer the rare human power to create a lightning strike from the sky. Now, hear me out before you just... That is rare. I've never seen it before. Rare is... We know the giants. They're a hot mess, and they're probably going to...

Oh, we're going to play Eli Manning for two years. No, you're going to be probably inserting Daniel Jones. Into the lineup by the end of September. Lots of issues. What I want to do is give Pat Schumer the power to unfurl a bolt of lightning from the sky at any moment during game action so he can buy the Giants' time on Sundays. According to Article 4 of the NFL rulebook, if the commissioner himself decides, if a lightning strike hits, he can decide how long to do a delay a game.

Maybe even by days. If it gets beyond a refs. Tampa Bay. Absolutely. Week three, they just put the lightning strike delay in now just as a matter of course before the game. They just assume it's already there. And so this is another situation where Pat Schumer, thanks to me, every time the Giants get into trouble with their young quarterback, instead of having to think quick, something the Giants have not been, you know, giants of industry at,

Pat Schumer can send down a massive bolt of lightning. And then he can just casually and calmly look over at the Fox Camel. and just sort of give them, I told you so, look, once again, I'm delaying the game. The Giants can regroup, rethink their plan, and put a better football product on the field. Thank me. So this is like in a baseball rain delay that goes on for an hour and a half. I think you use it as much as you need to on Sunday. Right.

The starting pitcher doesn't come back out. This is a good time to change. So they're replay. This is whatever it's, whatever, you just sit back, you reassess. And oh, it's Mother Nature. No, it's Pat Shermer using supernatural powers. So I thought this was like you were saying. this was going to be how he transitions from Eli to Daniel Jones.

But it seems deeper than that, that it's just like if he doesn't like the way the run game's coming together that day, you may need it more. You might need it more for Eli Manning than Daniel Jones at this point. So whenever you need to slow things down. Like if he has to go number two, you just like, that too. Got to get to the locker and take care of business.

Drop a light. That's what you, like, that's the true power that like a genie can give and be like, you know, and he can't use it outside of football games, by the way. That was the other.

You can't just use it to like blow up Highway 6. so he can take a side road. I mean, hopefully he's a good guy because it could be used for evil. It could be like, oh, we're losing the Cowboys. Let's zap Zeke Elliott over on the other sideline. Whatever it takes, team first. All right, good.

We're going to go around the horn again. But I have some genie conundrums for each of you. I'm going to start with Chris Wesleying. Wes, I grant you one of the following superpowers. Shermer can throw a lightning strike to take a top. So that's what he can do. But I'm going to give you three options. Unlimited intelligence, power of flight, selective invisibility.

Choose one. And realize the classic genie move is to make you seem like, oh, these are all great. And then bang, all of a sudden it ruins your life or this isn't what I wanted, Jeannie. I'd have to put it back, put it back. No. Every time. No, classic genie move. You've got to pick one, though, us.

The factor and everything. Damn, that's a tough one. flight I'm afraid of heights so that's not really helping me out I'll take unlimited intelligence even though that's asking for a lot of trouble

yes that's asking for tons of trouble I'll never have a full night's sleep again I will be the last choice I would have I will be in a straight jacket within the next year yep yeah or you'll be on a slab in some underground government bunker and they're dissecting your brain while you're conscious

where's genie then Wes plus if I have unlimited intelligence I'll find a way to make myself invisible so there we go very good let's go around the horn again now starting with Chris Wessel taking that flight

oh yeah I like invisibility putting on my turban here with the with the sapphire with the sapphire oh yeah and the lightning strike that came

via Mark Sessler through Pat Schumer's hands and struck New York It has repercussions that extend to Buffalo, and it gives Josh Allen extra powers of accuracy. The wish I grant Bill's fans long-suffering. Bill's fans is that Josh Allen adds accuracy to his game and becomes the most electric quarterback in football this year. Wow. Now, that would turn the AFC upside down.

This guy was fun to watch last year down the stretch. He wasn't fun to watch the whole season, but when he's running for 100 yards, just because he's more physically gifted than just about anybody out there, that's fun to watch. And he's almost kind of fun to watch when it's not going that well either, if you're not a Bills fan, because you don't know what the heck's going to happen on any play. There's no, there's not many quarterbacks out there like him, and there's something about like seeing him throw 15 feet over a guy's head that I enjoy. Have you ever seen a quarterback like him?

Sure. There's some comparisons to, but not that inaccurate. The mix of good and bad. With that reputation, like, sure, like a Randall Cunningham or even Cam, Cam Newton. Cam Newton, I think he's like a poor man's Cam Newton at this point. What I'd love about it, because people, assuming people wouldn't all know that there was a genie doing this, which would take some of the sort of magic away from it for the viewer, is that you hear all these off-season stories whenever there's a quarterback that lack.

It was, you know, Blake Bortles initially mechanics. oh, I'm spending the offseason with Tom House. Please, always like, oh, you're going to come back and you're going to be good as new, and nothing really ever change. They're always revealed to sort of not really have it. It could be the next time house. It definitely could be that. But what if it actually, a quarterback did come back

and suddenly was masterfully accurate with his running ability? The bills suddenly go 12 and 4 and the Patriots with their zero tight end offense. Ben Watson, oh, look at me. I took the wrong supplement, 4 and 12. Bye, bye. Sometimes the Tom House stuff works. Matt Ryan's MVP year, which is totally aberrant. Yeah, I don't mean to take down Tom House.

If that did happen, we'd probably wildly overrate that one season like we did Blake Bortles at 2015. Ouch. All right, moving on. You know, a lot of people are going to be surprised that I'm putting the turban on and going down to Nashville because, oh, you hate the titoons and all that. Well, I'm here to help because good health and 16. starts for Marcus Marriota is the wish I grant to you Titans fans

who you annoy the bejesus at me in my mentions but you know what? As I've said on the show I respect your passion and that you love your team and you believe in him so that's what I will bestow upon you and it doesn't say he's actually going to play well

when he's healthy I'm going to still leave that up to Marcus but I'm going to say he's going to be healthy listen to these listen to this this is crazy last year he missed three starts and didn't finish three games due to in-game injuries. Here's the full list of injuries that Mariotto dealt with during the 2018 season. He had the ulnar nerve issue in his elbow, which gave him the tingly throwing hand. That was week one.

He had the next stinger against the Colts in week 11, re-aggravated it in week 16 against the Redskins, which cost him the big week 17 game. He did not play. He also had a cracked vertebrae. Planter fasciitis, fasciitis. Planta fascia. Sure, that's not, actually. He had a significant tear during the season.

It became a full tear in week 16. He strained his oblique. He broke a rib, and he had a sprained AC shoulder joint. Now, not all of that, in my opinion, is bad luck. Maybe you're just not built for it. And there was just a report today I read that he has gained 12 to 13 pounds. Now, why not just say 12 or 13? Oh, we saw him on TV.

You can tell his thighs are huge. This guy's put together. He looks physically built and it all connects. The dots connect because he was a mess. He was not an NFL quarterback last year. He was like a regular guy on a field getting destroyed week after week. So that's the wish I grant. And you could find out Titans fans if he really is your golden boy.

Because given 16 games, perhaps he could throw more than 11 touchdowns in a season. Do you have to take a connecting carpet? When you're a genie and you're flying to Nashville? Look at that. Liked it, liked it, enjoyed it. Wes has been sitting on that genie joke all episode. Oh, I have another one. I have another genie conundrum.

This one will be for Greg. Greg, here's your choice. If you choose to accept the wish, I transport you back to 1996, where you will be the greatest tennis prodigy since Boris Becker. who famously won Wimbledon as a 17-year-old in 1985. Well, now Greg is 17 in 1996. Do you take it?

Do you go back in time and become the tennis prodigy? And classic genie move, you might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love tennis. I'd love to be a star and rich and win all these tournaments. But guess what? Genies are all about butterfly effect and, like, building it in the back end and you don't know what's coming? No doubt.

you then obviously lose Amica and your children because your life is going to take you all around the world you're probably going to marry a model. Well, that's not fair. Right, you can't answer it. You don't know that. Classic genie move.

That means I'm not taking it. But maybe, I don't know, does it wipe your memory? Yeah, I mean, that would have been. Yes, it's a wipe. But I would know. Yeah, you can't do that. But it sounds like fun, you know, competing like that at such a high level.

What's better than that? I don't get into tennis analysis much, but Mark and I are the only ones in the room old enough to remember what a sensation Boris Becker was. I actually watched that 85 match at my grandparents' house. He was the fun athlete to watch. The pitch?

What do you call it? Court. Did you guys know that he famously won Wimbledon as a 17-year-old in 1985? Watched it. Watched the whole thing. I think I would maybe be more like Michael Changstile winning the French Open as a 17-year-old. Changbang. But then...

Yeah. But no. I'm just saying because he's short. No kids. So definitely no. I'll say no, then. Total memorandum. Well, the way you framed it, there's no way I could do it in good time. You couldn't return home. Maybe I would have not thought it all the way through and just quickly answered.

The classic genie moves. Well, right. Does the genie offering always come with a huge audience listening? Like, maybe if it were a one-on-one thing, maybe he thinks differently about his answer. Off the air, tell us with the true answers, Greg. All right. All right. Who is up? The order's all jam.

I'll go. Wait, are we going, am I going to have two more or just one more? Maybe a speed round one, but definitely whatever one you like more, do now. I'm going to grant Jared Goff a great September. Jared Goff and Sean makes a great September. And then what? Then it's up to him, kind of like the Marioota. And he's fine.

I like that way. I just want to, I want to avoid a lot of, you know, these, this one's a little selfish. I want to avoid that becoming a storyline. I want to avoid just that being in the air late September, did the story. Super Bowl forever change the Rams. No, let's just get off to a nice quick start, play your game, move past that, and then move on to the 2019 season. I like anything that's a narrative buster, but I think if you wanted to go an extra

genie step, you would have thrown Todd Gurley in there too because that would have been a massive narrative buster. Greg wants him to his career to be over. No. Well, I didn't know about that. I don't know what's going to happen there. That's just an injury. Yeah, you're right.

Very good. Who's up? I actually, I should have gone off of yours, Deb. Ouch. Because it's Tennessee Titans related, and it's, I'm trying to dig deep into my genie powers. But I think actually the combination of yours and mine together, well, you could have just had an extra one and just taking this one out. No, this one had to be the way it was, but that's how it is. And it's, you know, the Titans get a lot of heat on this one on our podcast, so maybe this is a healing episode.

We'll see. But what I would do is Jeannie is I would put the finishing touches on a covert technology project that went dark in 2012. A project known to a small pool of scientists as the NFL draft debuster machine. Trademark, all rights reserved. What does the NFL draft debuster machine do? Some backstory. In 2012, scientists at Bland Tech Industries in Wildwood, New Jersey

were weeks away from putting the finishing touches One second, I've been to Wildwood, New Jersey. There are no scientists in Wildwood, New Jersey. Not above ground. Go on with your story. Not above ground. I just wanted to say that. Not above ground.

Finishing touches on a carbon steel housing unit in layman's terms would allow them to feed draft bus into said unit and have them emerge as draft home runs. The only caveat being that these draft bus must willingly or unwillingly hand over their DNA to the fine folks over at Blandtech Industries. These scientists would then feed that DNA into the carbon steel housing unit to illustrious results. For example, in goes the acquired DNA of Vernon Goldston. Out comes a gold mine for the New York Jets, a monstrous peak condition, pass-rushing terror for Adam Gase to unleash. What a healing bomb for fans. You can pull out that dusty Justin Blackman jersey and put it right back on because with one strand of Blackman's hair, he's back, baby, and ready to spin 1800-yard seasons for Nick Foles.

the Jags. Greg's wish. There are deeper ethical issues involved with the project. Yeah, I mean, I hope they have like some substance abuse counseling and everything. They would come out with none of that being an issue. It's just, it's messy too. Just the perfect peak condition. But as Jeannie, I'm looking past all the issues for the Titans because here's what I do. I'm swapping out hot and cold Marcus Marriott-Odo with his 406 injuries and his 28 position coaches in favor of a supercharged back from the abyss version. of Jake Locker, ready to lead the team into the next decade. Titans fans, you can thank me later and send a nice little note

to Blan Tech Industries in Wildwood Underground in Wildwood, New Jersey. I'd like to escort a 2019 Joe Evato to Wildwood, New Jersey, pop them into that machine and see what comes out. Watch a tram car, please. Wow, that would be the idea of Jake Locker coming back into our lives. I just get goosebumps. Yeah, I mean, that's a powerful machine. Supercharged, Jake Locker.

None of the form of flaws. Well, yeah. Great athlete. Illustrious, non-drafts, no desires to leave to follow outside of life. I think he was also worried about concussion issues. Not anymore. One of those, yeah. All right, let's, a quick one around the horn, Greg.

All right, I will, I'm going to grant a wish to Russell Wilson. I grant Russell, a coach that allows him to throw the ball a lot more. Now, I don't know if this is going to be Brian Schottenheimer finding religion or just a different coach. That's what I wish for Russell Wilson and the receivers to catch it too. I will grant a wish to my beloved New York Jets that they get this GM fiasco under control and end up with the right guy. And I'll even give you the guy, Joe Douglas of the Philadelphia Eagles. Everyone, Ozana's about Joe Douglas, put him in the chair and make him. sure it's not a yes man situation and get that house in order because if Adam Gase is not the

answer and he gets a yes man and the jets go under and they're firing everybody in two years not only is that another two years out of the playoffs or a team that hasn't been there in a decade you're messing with Sam Darnold's future and I will not stand for that I've waited too long for Sam Darnold for ineptitude in the front office so I grant organization and trust in the highest reaches of that front of them. I like it. Wes. Travis Frederick, Cowboys Center, stays healthy,

resumes a high quality of life after months of suffering. Cowboys' offensive line vies with the Cowboys linebacker core as the most dominant position group in football and forces Greg Rosenthal to take the second half of their 2018 season seriously for once. It always cycles back to Greg. I love it. Greg, acts like the Cowboys were barely 500 in the second half of the season, just sneak into the playoffs and are now a terrible team.

Greg, you don't even get to answer them because the way of this. I love the Cowboys. They were the 25th offense in the league. It was a great defense and a lousy offense. That's misleading. Mark. Quick one for me, I think for Carson Wentz, after all he's been through the last couple years, to have a healthy season that he finishes in MVP form the way that we saw him back when he was

a top notch. And we put all this Nick Full's drama behind him and his career resumes because I loved him when he was good and I feel like what he's been through is more than you could ask most quarterbacks to deal with. There you go. And one final genie conundrum for Mark Sessler.

Mark, I can place you on the grassy knoll, Dealey Plaza, 112263, at 11.30 a.m. central time. Or I can give you the opportunity to relive that summer of 1993 at that camp in Connecticut you're always going on about. Well, right, that was not 93, but... 97.

That was before then. I would take the... Camp Wiahassack? What is it? Camp Jule. Camp Jule. That was later on. I would take the summer, though,

even the summer of 93, because I don't... I think that anything else where you're trying to change history, like I would be concerned about... And how do I get back? If you want a little more detail, I give you 24 hours in Dallas.

I guess you could say that if you want to go by the rule of greater good, preventing like a chaotic unwanted death of president. You could stop the shooting. Would be better than reliving like a bunch of beer parties at a neighbor's house. So maybe I'll go grassy knoll for you. Well, so you assume you can stop it. Oh, I know I can. Wow.

I mean, it would be a nice time catching up with all those friends. and you're in the prime of your life Maybe the Gulf of Tonkin never happens Remember those days by the late? I mean you might just go greater good You might just get shot on the grassy knoll Well you got to go greater good Sitting around the fire

First girlfriends, first kiss 93 What do you think I was born in 1983 You're 10 years old with kissing To the new Pearl Jam album That sounds good to me No you I initially wavered But I've taken the more responsible route here

I believe You're a good man Mark Sessler there you go good genie work genies are hot we surfed that zeitgeist we'll be back later this week a day to be determined Thursday right Thursday the answer is Thursday oh I didn't know if I didn't know either but now I know because you seem confident I think so okay got that whole schedule let's do another show on Thursday all right this is it right storm the mailman the old boss and ricky hollywood behind the glass till thursday In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.

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