NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - "HEY, DESHAUN WATSON REALLY IS GOING TO GET TRADED" Spectacular

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

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Yes, it is indeed. The Hey, Deshaun Watson really is going to get trained in spectacular. And we cannot wait to dig into all of the madness surrounding one of the great talents in football. The report came out this morning, ESPN's Adam Schaefter, that Watson requested a trade from the Texans officially. Watson made the request to the team weeks ago, sources told ESPN, Ian Rappaport had some similar reporting later today. And now here we are, boys, in a place that we've really been or never been before. We've never tread in this territory, Greg, a quarterback at this level. Jay Cutler is an example of far distant cousin when he was a hot shot in the league,

but he was never truly a superstar. Deshawn Watson is, and it looks like he's on the move. Are you buying now? Is he definitely going? No, I don't want to ruin like the theme of the show. But the fact that, you know. A contrarian to the bitter end, Rosenthal. Well, here's the thing.

Yes, if I had to guess, more likely than not. But number one, you just said that the trade request came weeks ago. And that was before the Texans hired David Cully, which we can mention. He was the receivers coach in Baltimore. Before the Texans decided to keep their offensive coordinator, Tim Lewis, who Watson's a huge fan of. I do think the fact the reports are coming out today indicates that Watson's camp is the one putting out there. And they don't really care about all that coaching mumbo-jumbo, and they still absolutely won out.

But I'm doing this piece next week of, like, what each team can do to make, you know, next year's Super Bowl. And my thing for the Texans is, like, don't trade Deshaun Watson. It's still not over. He's still on your roster. You might not find a guy this good for 30 or 40 years.

Exhaust every possible avenue to make it not happen. And maybe they're too dumb to do that, but I'm still leaving that little door open, little crack. It is fair to question if they have the wherewithal to make the intelligent choices at this point from here on out to keep Deshaun Watson. Because the one thing that doesn't appear to be pushed by PR or to Sean Watson's camp, I think it's just legit that the relationship is broken and it's broken from the highest order in Houston. And, you know, David Cully, I think in another scenario would be a celebrated hire for the kind of career he's had to

some degree what he's gone through to be. He is going to be the oldest head coach on the day that he starts. But I don't know why anyone accepted any of these jobs with this situation, you know, burning the way it is. But if you are the Texans, you can, you can use patience. You don't have to something. Oh, the dolphins want Deshawn Watson. Let's just make that happen for them. Like, I don't think it's going to be quite that neat. But you have lost this quarterback. You've lost the centerpiece of your organization who's not James J.J. Watt. And you've probably lost JJ Watt, too. So it's a pretty dark time for the new people in place to be taking over and having press conferences trying to make us sound excited about the Texans, the fan base I feel for them.

That's a good point, Mark. That was the next point I was going to make that, listen, I played some, like, A-grade douchebag celebration music at the top of the show. It's an exciting thing to talk about as a football fan because, like I said, this is. uncharted territory, the idea of a player of Watson's magnitude, be on the open market. This is fun for everyone, except for Houston Texans fans, and that sucks. So we understand that, Texans fans. If you're listening, if there's one podcast where you want to jump off, we will not hold it against you. But this is not dancing on the grave of Deshaun Watson's Hall of Fame speech in 15 years

and talking about how great his relationship with the Texans was. Houston fans. That's a bummer that it's probably not going to end up that way, where he's a lifetime Houston Texans player. And Seth Payne, when he was on our show a couple of weeks back, who's obviously plugged into all things Houston sports down there. You know, he mentioned it. Texans came into the league in 2002. They waited 15 years as fans to have someone that was a star at that position. And I'll tell you, as a Jets fan, I can tell you, that's kind of the low end for a lot of teams how long it takes to find a franchise quarterback

of Watson's ilk. So this is a very difficult situation in Houston. And Greg, I agree with you. They're going to try everything in their power to make sure this doesn't happen. But at the same time, the fact that the Schefter reports out here now, and that's all, it's all very public. It feels like behind the scenes,

things have already been exhausted. And the fact that this comes, the news comes hand in hand, basically with David Cully entering the picture. None of it feels like it just happens it feels like he's officially setting the wheels in motion let's get this thing going absolutely and there's also a chance the texans aren't that interested in doing everything they can to keep him i mean they haven't really they haven't really done that by their actions they could have done that

back in december i mean they could they could they could have done that by getting rid of east to be they could have done that by cal mcnair taking ownership of the team he owns and taking control of the situation, and that hasn't happened. So I remember the Alex Smith trade, and I know Alex Smith going from Kansas City to Washington is not the same as Deshaun Watson, but I remember at the time thinking, well, this, because it happened during the Super Bowl week, I think it was Monday or Tuesday night, a Super Bowl week when the news broke. And I remember thinking, like, okay, I've covered the league a while now, like that, nothing like that's ever happened at that time. And it changed the timeline. And we've seen some other trades and, you know, stuff

last year that we're agreed to early too. It did, I think, maybe get these teams in the mindset that, okay, his agent, who by the way was Jalen Ramsey's agent too and got Ramsey out of there, that, okay, now's the season. Like if you're the Jets or the Panthers or whoever you are, like, okay, if we put together our massive package of trade offer right now, we might be able to get the deal done this week. It's possible, at least. And I think the Alex Smith trade and a few other trades that have made since then. So it says, like, it might not be waiting around all offseason.

I would also just note that there are people out there that, you know, know Deshaun Watson and say that this is not, he is not money-oriented the way that some athletes would be, that he's fine losing money, losing bonuses to make his point. So for me, it kind of fits, the ages are different, but I see it a little bit more as a Carson Palmer type scenario where he basically said, look, I'm done with this organization. I don't need to play. You don't need to pay me.

But I'm not playing for you anymore. And ultimately, they had to, they moved him and they moved him for a lot because they were dealing with Hugh Jackson on the other end who wound up as a Bengals employee like less than a calendar year later. All right. So now that we've set the Brown. Poor Hugh, just getting an old, and a shot in from the Browns fan. Well, he got, that was a major trade.

I mean, that is the closest sort of DNA to this where the quarterback was so unhappy with the highest levels of the team that he's simply said, I'm done. And they had to move them. He called it the greatest trade in NFL history, Hugh Jackson. Always selling. I don't, yeah, and I don't want to pile on the snark with the David Cully hire, but a 65-year-old coach. Andy Reid said he had many a cheeseburger with him and 18 years together. That's good.

That's kind of an endorsement. The passing game coordinator with the Ravens, which a team not known for its passing game, the wide receivers coach on that Chiefs team that didn't have a touch. touchdown that entire season? Listen, I'm not saying to himself. I know. Wait, I have to say what his resume is in part. And he was the wide receivers coach that year. This is not a hot shot higher one that I would think Watson would be like, wait a second. They do know each other. They apparently they got real tight at a pro bowl or something. And I don't know about real tight, but they there is a relationship. But this all happened before David Cully. And maybe if they

had gone and hired, you know, Sala or someone, this could have been righted, but I don't think that Cully has anything to do with this at this point. That's what Ian has sort of said that these are two different ships in two different parts of the sea. All right. So let's dig into, let's play a game here. Let's play agent to Deshaun Watson. Greg, you're big on agents and who they are and their connections and all that. For the purposes of this game, I don't even really need to know the guy's name. If we want to name them, we can. But we're going to take on the identity of this agent. And we're going to spin a wheel. This is my son, Jack, and Harry's. The floor is lava. It's a pretty good game. We play it. It's a board game. It has a wheel. And I have now repurposed it for the purposes

of this podcast. I let them know this is dry erase marker. So that's not a problem in terms of the future of the floor is lava. And what we're going to do is go through all the teams that we, that sense as a possible destination point for Deshawn Watson or get through as many as we can before this gets boring and tedious and we'll play the role of agent taking turns selling to Sean Watson himself on the destination. Okay, before we do that, let's go through the teams that makes sense. I'm going to go division by division and let me know what teams should be hypothetically in the wheel and can be chosen in this game. Buffalo, nay. Miami. Yes, definitely. New England. Yes. Yes. Jets. No. Yes. That's what you hope. Uh, the Titans. No, I think it'll eliminate the whole division. Let's get rid of the whole AFC self. Because there is no way the Texans are going to trade the greatest player in franchise history next to J.J. Watt in division and face them twice a year. So X amount. All right. And AFC North, Pittsburgh.

Well, I put some stock into the report that Ian put out there, Ian Rapport that they're going to try to avoid trading to any team in the AFC. But if we're allowing AFC and we're doing it with the Jets and the Dolphins, then okay, Pittsburgh. Why not? Throw it in there. Yeah, I hardly think they're going to rule out the AFC. They got a deal to make. I would preferably, they would send them to the NFC. But if there's a beautiful deal in their conference, I would think they would think long of heart.

A beautiful deal. Yes, Baltimore, no, right? Cleveland, yes. They could definitely upgrade a quarterback. I think they'd have to do it behind the scenes, but I know what you're saying, but I don't think they would explore this. He took that seriously. No, he's just trying to get at you. There's no chance.

There's not a chance in now. Here's the thing. Ian has said that more than half the league. I don't know about no chance. I'm not antagonizing here. Why would the Browns be out of this? I don't think they'd be out, but I think it would cause a lot of problems if you found out that they, if they went after this. but to me I would put them in the

because they've got a young quarterback that they believe in. I believe that. For this game though, I don't think the Browns are center piece. It's too complicated. This isn't a Jay Cutler on the market, Greg Rosenthal. This is Deshaun Watson.

No. Cincinnati. I believed in Jay Cutler back then. You know, Jay Cutler at the time was viewed as a top 10 quarterback. He was. And he was traded from Denver to the Bears for, I believe, multiple number one picks.

And it was a big, big, deal when it happened. People gave the Broncos, including me, a lot of grief for it. Yes. Ultimately, it was fine getting rid of him, I think. He was a gifted thrower of the football, and I remember I actually went to Chicago that year in 2009 to see the opening of the U2-360 tour at Soldier Field. I mean, that is some intense stuff right there. And I remember he was on the cover of like multiple magazines in Chicago as the next big thing. I mean, if he had spent this whole career with Mike and Kyle Sannahan, he would have had an amazing career, but that did not happen.

All right. Anyway, Cincinnati, they're good with Joe Burrow. They don't even know how to trade, no. The AFC West, the Chiefs, obviously, here in no-go. The Raiders, yeah, we're going to get the Raiders in this mix, right? The Chargers, no, with Herbert, Denver Broncos, yes. Absolutely. Still looking.

All right, now to the NFC. Washington football team and the Giants, yes, right? Big yes on Washington. I mean, the Giants keep saying. and we are 100% behind Daniel Jones. I actually, I don't realistically think they would get involved. That feels a little thorny for Gettling, a little too high concept. Let's leave them out.

Dallas and Philadelphia, either of those teams. Ooh, you know what, Dallas especially, that's a little. I don't know. You can't imagine. They actually have a legitimate rivalry, the two franchises, Houston and Dallas and the ownerships. I can't quite imagine that, but there is something spicy there with that Prescott being a free agent.

I mean, if there's one player, in theory, available, that could approximate Deshaun Watson's value. Dallas has him. So that's throw them in. Well, they don't have them, though. Right, but they could trade them, you know. All right. Saints.

Franchise trade. Cappell, you know, his, Sean Watson's cap number of 2021 is not too bad. Should we include the Saints? I wouldn't rule them out as a team that is good, would look into it absolutely, because what better way to come out of Drew Brees than to tell your fan base, we pulled off a mega deal for Deshawn Watson. We'll figure out the details.

You don't need to. Fanbase. Okay. Well, Adam. Tampa Bay. Let's keep them out of this. Panthers and Falcons. I'd say yes to both. What do you guys think? Yeah. I think the Panthers, Ian, again, reported today that they are going to be aggressive. And they seem like a prime candidate. And I think Atlanta is under the radar a sneaky candidate. Because again, they have a quarterback that they could send to Houston that I think would interest them. That would wonder about the cap hit there. But the Panthers make a lot of sense to me.

NFC North, I just got the Bears. Is this a team that makes sense? You guys have another team you want to throw in there? Well, why not the Lions if you're exploring? You don't – your quarterback is wanting divorce from you. It's hard to imagine Watson wanting to do that. Sure. I don't think he would want to, but, I mean, would they pick up the phone or just say,

we're not even going to – why even call? We're the lions. Like, I don't think that's hopefully their mindset. Come bite some knees down here in Detroit. Come bite some knees with me, Desjohn. But Brad Holmes came from the Rams. How much has he learned about wheeling and dealing from the way that less seed operates? Just put them down.

I don't think they're making the wheel, but they're okay. All right. And the NFC West, Rams and Niners. I have those two teams. And you want to throw in Seattle and Arizona? Don't think so. No. And even the Rams feels like it would be tough.

All right. I got the wheel here. And I'm going to just throw out five teams. that feel like players in this race to start. Panthers, Dolphins, 49ers, the football team, and my Jets. And now I'm going to spin the wheel. You didn't even put the dolphins on there? I see what you're doing.

You're just trying to, like, steer the Sean Watson away. I got the dolphins on there. Oh, okay. That's the wheel. You see the wheel? I'm sure that you know. This is an audio program, but I can see it. I appreciate it.

And I like the Arcade Fire Funeral album in the background. That was the episode of The Throwback. throwback podcast that I did. So that was. Yes. Yes, it was. And that was a great app. Check it out with Greg Rosenthal. All right. Here comes the first spin. Oh, it is the Dolphins that we start with. And wow, as luck would have it, we just so happen to have with us the preeminent dolphins fan in the building NFL media.

And we had scheduled to have Matt Money Smith on the show. You heard him in the very top with the intro and great work for money. but he was supposed to be on the show today, technical difficulties. So off the bench is another alum of the Dave Damashik football program. Not a second choice, Henry. Don't look at it that way, but you're here, and we're happy to have you. Hey, fellas. How are you doing?

We're great. That's my Dave Damasek impression. It's pretty good. All right. Good to see you. Hank, it is great to see you. It's great to see you guys, too, as well. How are you?

And we're in your boudoir, which just has my mind, just doing all sorts of that. It's actually nice natural lighting in your room. Very, very nice looking. It's an electric vibe in there, especially the laundry basket behind you. So it landed on the Dolphins. You are going to play the role of Agent right now for Deshaun Watson pitching him on the Finns. I will give you about two minutes to do it. Go ahead.

Okay. I love it when you guys pretend to be people, so I'm so excited to, as you know, I listen avidly, so I'm excited to get to play this game. So I'm going to be Deshawn Watson's agent. I don't have a name, but I'm going to pretend I'm calling him up on my phone. No call necessary. You're in the room. You're in the room.

Hey, Dee, what's up? There's one of you guys. I guess we'll take turns being Deshawn, but we'll keep it pretty simple with his answers. Hey, what's up, man? Hey, Dee. So I'm excited. You've requested a trade from the Texas. I think it's exactly the right thing to do.

Let's get out of there. Let's go get you something good. And I don't have to sell you on this. This is going to be pretty short. I know there are people talking about all kinds of teams. If you listen to the Iran and the NFL podcast, Dan Hans is this week just put a list, put a list together for you of the teams that are likely. But honestly, like, you don't need to get too far down that list, right? There is one city, there's one team, there's one place that you need to be.

It's the fastest rising team in the NFL's. It's a team that's gone from the bottom and is going to the top and you're the last piece. It's the youngest team or I think the second youngest team in the NFL. They don't have a single player over the age of 30. You don't have to deal with any old people. You can go there and be with guys your age and be the face of this franchise. It's in a state where, you don't need to pay tax. Who wants to pay taxes?

You're the second highest paid player in the league. You don't want to be playing that state tax. Guess what? You're getting that money. The government's having none. They don't need to pave the roads in Florida. I've given you a clue. This is Miami, okay, right?

I just sold you on the business side of it. Football, this is an up-and-coming team. great coach, like a coach that the players their love, they're going to have to mortgage their future. They're in the middle of a rebuild, and unfortunately trading for you is going to mean that they may take a step back in terms of bringing in some of the key pieces that they need to at receiver, skill, positions, etc.

But you can make the players around you better. The guys that they've had can't do that, so that's fine. So the business side's great. But then what about the rest of it? It's Florida. There's beaches, there's boats, There's what else begins would be that you could enjoy in Florida. The beach is boat. I don't know, something else.

How about the state income tax? Yeah, and taxed. I just said that. I don't know what you were talking about. I wasn't paying attention to you. What are you doing? Don't get off Snapchat. And, you know, this is the most exciting opportunity.

Let's, right now, let's call Brian Flores. Let's call Chris Greer. Let's just give them a call now and just see, like, you know, can we get this done? And then we don't even have to bother with any of these. You want to go to the New York Jets? Like, they're not even the primary team in their city that plays football. Why would you want to go there? There are so many better places.

That felt unnecessary. Well, I'm sorry to Sean, but that's it. All right, time's up. I got to go. Let's just get this done. Gotta go. All right. Sounds like a great player-agent relationship right there.

Just the rich dialogue between you. What do we think about Henry's pitch? And Henry, you can now also critique your own. pitch i would say what i thought it was fantastic but tell me if tell me if you if you think differently what's not to like if you could sell the texans on two as being part of the package going in the other way and um i mean from a player's angle miami is a destination um unquestionably a top two or three destination in the whole country um he could be the king he could be the king of south beach for the next not just his playing career but like you know dan marina

is going to, he's on the way out, please, in terms of Icon walking around South Beach. But Deshaun could be that guy for the next 30 or 40 years. I mean, you can go and take a team that's had nothing good happen to it in decades. The table is well set for him to become. Let me ask you a question, Henry. Now you're a Dolphins fan. He's put on your fan cap. Are you really already out on the Tua is the future thing?

I know it's not because this would be an extraordinary situation. but are you amongst the camp that is already kind of seriously worried about Tua being a big-time player? It was a very small sample size. Yeah, I mean, to me, this is like a big win-win situation, right? The big win is if you camp, you've got the ammo. I mean, this is obviously we didn't talk about this as his agent, but the dolphins do have the ammunition with draft picks, etc., to put together a package that would be interesting to the Texans, I believe.

So on that front, I think they're good. I think the big win is the Texans go for it and you can put together the package. You get to Sean Watson, who's one of the, in my opinion, five best quarterbacks in the NFL and 25 years old and locked up through 2026, I think, in his current contract. And the dolphins have the cap space to be able to make it work. If it doesn't happen, my honestly biggest worry would be goes to the Jets because then you've got two teams in the AFC East with a like a long-term top five quarterback in the fold with him and Josh Allen. feel the same way about your situation. Exactly. If not, you have two.

I definitely don't think we've seen enough of two. And I think it was underplayed the players that he had around him at skill positions at the end of the season there when things started going awry were awful. He had guys who were playing quarterback in the SEC playing wide receiver in the NFL a year later and starting. He definitely didn't get his chance to see it. And I think the Dolphins have a really good plan

that they were looking to execute, which was get the quarterback last year as part of, was one of three first round picks, and then they've got two more first round picks and two second round picks this year to put the pieces around them. You're so excited about this. To me, I don't, I don't see this being,

whichever way I'd be hugely excited. I love to show what's night. You could talk yourself into the tour era skill. I can talk myself into the two or a skill. I definitely think they need to give them at least a year with some great pieces around him rather than trying to throw the ball to, and I think, I think,

I think their GM in Houston, you know, tight with Sabin, you know, Tua, Tua from Alabama. I think Tua has been totally misread. I have a, I have hope and, you know, some optimism that he can be a good in difference-making starting quarterback, that he showed more than people thought and people are being way too quick and that he does have trade value. More importantly, they have the number three overall pick. I mean, they have the number three and the number 18 overall pick. So, yeah, it's not as good as two, but it is right up there. And if it's two and three, you kind of like Tua if you're the Texans,

plus you have the number three overall pick. That's pretty exciting. And from the Watson point of view, I mean, yeah, you're taking a pay cut if you get traded anywhere with state income tax because Texas doesn't have it. And you're saying, okay, that contract you sign and no money's not important, you know, the number one thing to Watson supposedly, but basically getting traded anywhere. but Florida and Texas, you're taking a pay cut. That's a pretty big, it can make this game and exercise a whole lot shorter

if we just want to include the state income tax-free destinations. Have we mentioned the state income tax situation? We're going to spin the wheel again. Henry, do you want to stay on for another spend? I'm going to have to jump. It's wonderful to see you and great. I know I would love to, but unfortunately, I have a day job. He is.

Vice President of International. That was his way to make sure we got. that in again to show how successfully he's been since he came to america um i really appreciate that's that's um part of my the contract i have with you guys gregg thank you you made a convincing case there as well and i'm preparing to forgive gregg he did something almost unforgivable yesterday on another podcast um with with a friend of mine and but i think you're not going to give the neil reynolds podcast a little plug i didn't do anything unforgivable i recognize the anthony you know henry has a kindred spirit. He likes to

throw in the jabs to people. I was just saying he did he do that was offensive. I mean, I can only imagine. Greg, I thought yesterday afternoon I was taking the dog for a walk. I was like, I'll entertain myself with two of my friends, Neil Reynolds, Greg Rosenville on a podcast together. About six minutes in, Greg says, I'm an ass-a-

like your friend, Henry Hodgson. What? Why would you take that shot? He does that sometimes. Yeah. He can't just speak about himself. He has to invoke other people as well. Here's a thing. Henry took that as a compliment. I know he did. Can you, speaking of SkySports, we might edit this out, I don't know. Can you let them know that we noticed that we're not on their press release touting their talent that's going to be involved in Super Bowl Sunday John?

Very concerning. Let them know that we're not angry. We're not looking to force any actions. But just let them know that we have perused the press release that Sky Sports sent out about Super Bowl coverage. And we have noted that we are not mentioned at any point in that release. landed with a clunk big gigantic you know I will definitely I'll have the conversation with them I'm already talking to them on Dan's behalf for some other reasons

but you know I will warn them if they don't fix this stuff and figure this stuff out Mark will take the book from behind him title chaos and unleash it on them let them know that we cross their face we saw the Dallas Clark pub we saw him getting pumped up but we have not seen any you know you guys need to have a middle in career as a tight end being boosted by uh now we really can't now we really can't put this part in the show we're keeping it no it's it all right henry thank you for joining us i love seeing you i hope you're all

so my love for your your families and friends and loved ones absolutely see you the best man see all right let's spin the wheel once more here we go this game is moving at a feverish yeah we might not get through all that look at that it i replaced the dolphins with the raiders and that's exactly uh the spot it runs on starting to make me worry that there's something wrong with the wheel. The Las Vegas Raiders up next, Mark Sessler, for you. How about that? You make the case to Deshaun that the Raiders should be his preferred destination than the

trade. Well, I would say this to Sean. You know, I know that we just spoke a few minutes ago, and I talked with you about Miami, but I think when you want to talk about a real destination, a destination of tomorrow. What about your accent? You know, it's like I'm versatile. I, you know, I, shape-shifter when it comes to these things. So now we're living in a world where he just keeps calling back 20 different times.

I guess. I mean, this is a very important time in his career. Yeah, this makes sense. I mean, there's four of us in the room? Who's in the room here? So it's like, all right, I'm talking about the Raiders here. I want to tell you why the Raiders, maybe not the team you would have thought up first. This is a special time to become an Oakland Raider.

And number one, the money's going to go through the roof. They've got consistency there. Their coach is not going to suddenly get bounced out and replace. by some sort of Machiavellian plot from the inside. Their coach may be a little Machiavellian, but he's not going anywhere. John Gruden and you. This is a great relationship.

You're talking about your issues with relationships with organizations. The Raiders are ready, from what I know, to make this move. Look, I know Derek Carr is there, but Derek Carr is no more guaranteed money. He is going to be moved, stage right. And this is a team right now. You've got Darren Waller. Imagine your career growing with Darren Wallers, Henry Ruggs, Jail and Rashard, Josh Jacobs, Nelson Aguilar, Hunter Renfro. I mean, this offense, which was very exciting a year ago, is set to grow and bloom with you a quarterback.

I love this destination. If you want to talk about one of the most historical teams in the league, it's the Raiders. You could go down as an icon along with, you know, Archel, Marcus Allen, John Madden, Jim Plunkett, the whole crew. this is a history-making move for you and you move away from a team that's only a brown been around since 2002 to the ultra-elite gold class of NFL franchises the Las Vegas Raiders let's do it gold class all right that's pretty good sell I like that sell it may I think the Raiders the silver and black they're in that Cowboys category for me where I think there are a few teams that would move the needle just on selling the brand and the

Raiders are one of them. And the fact that they're in Las Vegas, I think that's an interesting location for them, certainly better than trying to pitch them and go into Oakland Alameda Coliseum to spend your career. Yeah, the stadium. The stadium's cool. The stadium's awesome. The city is obviously glitzy and glamorous.

And the brand is great. And I guess it kind of might come down to is John Gruden, your cup of tea. Do you feel like he's a guy that you want to get in bed with for the next 10 years? or do you feel like that's a guy you can't trust? Like, Gruden is a selling point and a non-selling point at the same time. It really depends where you come from. I think it could be a selling point. I think he did the QB Camp, QB confidential back in the day with Watson.

I think he can scheme up offense. I guess that would be part of the sell is look at this offensive line. Look at what they've done offensively. It's pretty quarterback friendly with Derek Carr. Now, you might just have to cut Derek. car because i don't think you can sell the texans on going back uh to another car at quarterback with you know with all due wait why not that was they might love it was ancient and you know david car got screwed over by circumstance he was he was a guy that never really had a chance okay here's the

thing the texans if you trade deshawn watson period um that is going to be an unbreakable trust a trust that you broke with your fans that some may never recover from you come in and you trade hopkins Watt and Deshawn Watson in the same year. Some people are just going to leave you forever. And if you try to replace them with Derek Carr, a mid-range quarterback, that to me just feels like... Well, he would be a bridge. Does any human want to be that quarterback?

No, but if you're the number two overall pick, or your Tua, or your... I don't know who else it would be, it probably wouldn't be anyone, but like a superstar-level quarterback, no, I think it's going to have to, you know, I think you're going to have to be a little more than that. Then it feels like you're shooting for the middle. All right.

Let's keep moving. All right. I've replaced the Raiders with the Rams. That's fun, right? Yeah. Sure. 49ers. Greg.

Ooh. Make the sell. I mean, Deshawn, this is David, by the way. David Mulgetta. Everyone knows me. I don't know what he sounds like, but I'm David. Actually, you nailed it. That's exactly what David Maldetta sounds like.

I got two words for you, Deshawn Watson, Kyle Shanahan. Go watch some Kirk Cousins tape when he was with Kyle Shannon. Go watch the money that Kirk Cousins made after playing with Kyle Shanahan. Go watch the rookie of the year season Robert Griffin III had with Kyle Shannon. Go watch Nick Mullins put up better stats in his first 16 starts than you did, Deshawn Watson. Nick Freakin Mullins. This is a team that was in the Super Bowl, two years ago. ago, has a great defensive mindset, has great offensive personnel to support you with

Debo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk and a running game. This team is ready to win the Super Bowl in 2021, the first season you're there and to start a long, beautiful relationship. I'm out. I'm not even going to listen to you, Deshaun. I don't think you need two minutes to sell that situation. and the idea of pairing with Kyle Shanahan for the next decade plus. Well, yeah, you trust the connection there, the coach quarterback connection,

and Shanahan's, you know, bona fides speak for themselves. And then it satisfies for the 40, the team-wise, like you're saying, you're an instant contender. And really, let's face it, if they, the 49ers landed Deshaun Watson and the trade, they would be the overwhelming favorite, I would think, to go to the Super Bowl next year. So the expectations are through the roof for better and worse, for better or worse. And then it does also, helps the Texans, like we talked about it. What would be the ideal situation for the Texans if they have to trade to Sean Watson, get him out of sight, out of mind?

You put them out there in the NFC West. Yep. You know, it's still, listen, this is not baseball or other sports, a lot of fans are regionally minded. Deshaun Watson is going to be on the radar at all times in Houston, no matter where he goes. But it's just the idea of potentially facing him in regular seating games and a playoff game.

You don't want anything to do with that. So this makes so much sense. What's like the biggest obstacle here? I don't see a huge obstacle unless the Niners are unwilling to part with the immense asking price. If that's just not how they want to be. So they don't have a high pick. So that, you know, they have.

You could do that over years. I mean, anyone could come up with some package outside of the Texans if they were in the reverse situation. And I guess they have a fairly high pick, though. So I guess. What is their pick? Where are they at? I'm looking right now, but it's definitely. I feel like they're in no men's land to get a quarterback of their liking.

They would probably have to make a move. They have the 12th pick, but they also have a cheap bridge quarterback that Nick Casario was involved in drafting. Well, that's what I was going to mention. I mean, if you're Easterby and Nick Casario, like, Jimmy Garapolo feels like an extension of this. They're building this fortress where it's like the scant few people that still believe in what they're doing are the only people they hire or entertain. Like, I don't, like, Tua would be like, you got to be kidding. I'm going to give this coach a chance before we bury him, you know, John Harbaugh. People are already talking about David Cully as a bridge to Josh McCown, that they really only want him for a couple years and then hire Josh McCown.

I mean, I think that you went and got someone that's essentially forced into a yes-man role. But Jimmy G would be someone, I think, that Casario and Easterby would say, yeah, we could make that work on the other side. He's a fun throw-in. At this point, in the level, in a trade level that we're talking about with Watson, Jimmy G is not the centerpiece of the trade. It's the draft picks. But the fact that you can throw them in and have a quarterback for next year, if you wanted, potentially, I could see Casario won. I mean, that's the David Carr case as well, the Derek Carr case. Yeah, you know, you're right.

You're right. Only Derek Carr never misses games. No, I'd rather had Derek Carr. It's more that I could see potentially Casario loving Jimmy G. Just like I can see the Patriots being totally all about getting Jimmy G back this offseason. Yeah, I really could. Yeah, I could see that. All right.

So that one makes a lot of sense. it is it is the draft pick the teams that have that essentially lottery pick this year i feel like do have an advantage uh but the nf the nfc thing is is interesting i just say one little quick thing about the immediate draft picks for this year like do you really want to like they're in rebuilding mode like having some of these first picks spread a little bit down the line yeah um make more sense to me than like oh you're still going to stink three years from now and you're going to be being asked about, like, you know, options for your first round picks that are on a team that's still half baked. I don't know. And we should say, like, Watson has a no trade

clause. So it is possible that the Texans get a few teams that have worthwhile trade offers and that Watson is a part in choosing this team. I've replaced the 49th spot with the Steelers. That was a bad spin. All right, Panthers. All right. Let me make this case. All right. Here we go. Deshawn. What's up, baby?

What's up? Speak to me, baby. I'm David Mongalis, your agent. Mogadda. Mogadda. David Malgetta. When David Malgetta speaks... It's going well so far.

People listen. And if I pick up that call and I engage with the big man upstairs in Carolina, an owner, who is completely, completely obsessed with making splash moves. I think David Tepper is going to want to do something and now I tell you that this is an organization you want to be connected to because they are going in the right direction.

Matt Rulay saw it, he's done. I know you've been following his college career, what he did at Baylor, and now what he did in his first year in Carolina, the players love playing for. They just love him. He's one of those guys. He's an offensive-minded coach.

He's the type of guy. You're not dealing with Bill O'Brien here. This is not a Bill O'Brien situation or a David Cully. You know, the word about Cully or a Josh McCown creeping around the corner. You know, don't listen to guys like Greg Rosenthal out there in the media that just want to tell you that David Cully is going to be all right. I just want to give this guy a chance. Let's not take it personal with David Cully. Nobody has been in a worst position as a head coach entering the league.

since Jim Tom Sula, rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic is what Culley's doing. Matt Rule is the future there. He is locked and loaded. Ownership is in lockstep with the head coach. And there are weapons there. You ever hear of Christian McCaffrey? Imagine you and McCaffrey sharing a backfield together. We've got some wide receiver pieces there, but they can get better.

This is a great place to live, Charlotte. I mean, that's a wonderful area of the country. And I think you put it all together. This one makes sense. and you get a fresh break from everything and all the toxic culture with the Texans and the AFC South. And the AFC in general,

you just start fresh with an organization that's on the right path, the Panthers. Well, and just how about the familiarity, you know, with the region, you know, going to college there. There's pictures of... Glemson, right. Pictures of Watson in a Panthers jersey with Cam Newton, an old Cam Newton fan.

it's sort of the perfect I think Miami has a little bit of this too but I think it's the perfect balance of like you kind of like where the organization's at but if I was a player I kind of like that it's a little more low-key media-wise and just I think everyone's gonna everyone's gonna be excited about Deshawn Watson

wherever he goes but he can be the king of the Carolinas how about the chance to work with Joe Brady I love that you mentioned David Tepper I mean if you're if we I would love to know exactly what Deshaun's list are of like, this is what the next organization must have, not just the money thing. But if you talk about an owner who's going to engage you and make you part of decision making and treat you with respect and a coach, as you mentioned, Dan, I mean, it's a spicy landing spot. And I think the Texans would do it in a second over an AFC team.

Robbie, Tabby Anderson, DJ Moore, and Curtis Samuel all had over 900 yards this year. Now, I'm not saying they're the three, it's the best wide receiver room in the league, but it also speaks to what Matt Rule can create. If Teddy Bridgewater and Matt Rule can do that with those three guys, like, look out for the next five years. I think he's going to want to win right away. I don't think he wants to walk into a deep rebuild necessarily unless it's real attractive for other reasons. And the Panthers could win right away with him. Yeah, I think what you saw with Will Fuller this year definitely is something you think about too, because I put Fuller in a similar categories of those Carolina receivers. They're all very good players that pair them with a.

a truly great quarterback, and any of those guys can turn in an all-pro-level year, which Fuller was on his way to before that PED band. That's the one now that I'm clearly rooting for Deshaun Watson to get out of the AFC East. Don't need that particularly of Patriots fan. And I do like the Panthers quite a bit, and I like this whole thought. 49ers kind of fun, too, but I like this Panthers stuff. Tepper, you know Tepper wants to, he's already put a big stamp on this organization since he came in. he's basically cleared out everybody and installing his own vision, you would think the next move,

if he could make a, this would be like a kingmaker move to bring in the front 25-year-old, 26-year-old franchise quarterback. And they said they would aggressively go after players like this, like Panthers themselves. So, I mean, it's aligning. Not to, you know, build off this mythology that's centered around this particular owner, but he was known as like this massive shark on Wall Street and he gets what he wants and he takes big risks. and, you know, even rule, like he would not let him out of his building. And, you know, he's known for, I'm a guy.

I could just picture it. Listen, this is it. I'm a guy who gets what he wants. But there are different people that are interested in picking the teams. And I know that Watson kind of put the jets and the dolphins at his top. So that shows his priorities. I mean, supposedly the jets and the dolphins are atop his list. But if I was someone just picking where he would go, now I'm feeling the Carolina.

I'm feeling that as the underdog pick. That's some good value there. What a roller coaster. Just hearing Greg, you know, speak this stuff out. I love it. All right. Here we go. Let's keep spinning.

Finally. New York Jets. Do I want to make this out? I think I should make the cell. No, I'll do it. You want to do it? No, I'm kidding. You'll have plenty of time to get in here.

Hey, look at the last 20 years, Deshawn. Look at this. look at what this ownership. I am David Mulgata, and let me start here. Hey, look at the last 20 years, the show. Look at that team. That team needs a hero. You're a hero.

You know you're a hero. That's why Davoswini said way back in the day, you're Michael Jordan. New York, imagine Michael Jordan in New York. Imagine what that would be like. And don't listen to all these people like those Greg Rosenthal's out there in the media who say, oh, it's the NFL. It doesn't matter what the market is. This agent cannot stand Greg.

Forget about all that. I'm the one who knew his name. It showed some respect. Come on. Yeah, he does. He respects you enough to know who you are. This is everything. This is the dream marketing scenario for you. And you have a situation there. And I know you've already told me privately how much you respect Robert Sala and what he would mean to you having a coach that is a motivator of men, someone you respect. And I know you haven't had a lot of that. So we can give you that in New York. We can give you maximize your earnings potential. And yes, you're not afraid to go to a team that needs a lot of work because you feel you are the man to fix everything over there. You'll fix the Jets. And with their leadership, it's different. It is not what it was a few years ago. Joe Douglas is a guy that is well respected and he's making the right moves right now. And they've changed their structure over there in terms of who reports to who.

It's Joe Douglas's show. He hired his guy and Robert Sala so you could respect the team builder, the head coach, the market is one. wonderful. They have the assets that they could send back to Houston without crippling their future because they are so filled chock full of number one picks. You can get there and be the hero that New York needs. And just imagine, just imagine if you became the next Joe Namath. And I know that's a name that some people of your age. It doesn't really connect with. But I know that you're somebody who understands history and what that would mean. Gobbs of money. Great place to play. The hero of New York City.

That's a city that hasn't had a champion in a long time now. It's been a while. You could be that hero. Come. Come to us. I'm based out in New York City. It's like... I like it.

Deshawn, you started... You know, you just opened this restaurant in Houston. And what better place to open a restaurant than the East Village. Let's do it. Let's get creative. How about Brooklyn? Whatever. The food's going to be great.

You're right. I mean, NFL players, I think, you know, you can become a superstar like Aaron Rogers or Patrick Mahomes anywhere, but I do think Deshaun Watson in New York would be as big, you know, as big as it gets. They have, you know, the third most cap room right now in the league. So you could pitch that while you're giving up a lot of, you know, draft capital, which really shouldn't be Deshaun Watson's concern, they're not stuck in a terrible place to add talent anyways. And Robert's solid changes everything.

I think they had no selling point when we first brought this up and we had no idea who they'd hire. I just thought they had no selling point for, because like the one thing you'd have to point out is that if ownership is super important, the Jets have really sketchy ownership track record right now. But they do have a GM and a coach that you can buy into. Not a lot of weapons, you know, the offensive line.

They have a lot of roster work to do. But the fact that Jamal Adams trade, as painful as it was, really sets, them up well here with the number two pick and then those two picks. So the number two pick means obviously to the Texans, hey, if you really want to find your next quarterback, you could have anyone you want in this class that's not obviously Trevor Lawrence. So if you fall in love with one of these guys, Zach Wilson at BYU, Justin Fields at Ohio State, he's there if you want it. You can also take that number two pick and then trade it yourself and flip it for

more draft capital for another team that loves it. And so that's such a powerful pick to have dangled in the trade. And then because of the Adams deal, the Jets could give up number one picks and not put themselves in a situation like Bill O'Brien did to the Texans where they're just barren for years. And they don't have a pick, draft after draft. And obviously it would deplete their what they've built up in that surplus. But that's, to me, what this has always been about.

When you dealt Adams, it was to have this, this cachet. of picks to make a move and I think it makes a lot of sense for the Jets obviously and Watson if he has the it's kind of like the dice roll for Watson and all this the ones we've brought up before make a lot of sense logically in terms of checking a lot of boxes but I feel like this one could have the highest reward if it worked out well I think the fact that you know reputable reporters are all saying that the Jets are number one says a lot about Well, where Watson's mindset is, where his and his agent's mindset is. And I think it's all about New York, you know, the city.

I mean, it can't really be, I mean, I'm in Salat, Sala, too. But I think the New York factor of it all has to be it, that he wants to go live there. He wants to be that guy, right? Or else, why would they be atop the list otherwise? It's got to be New York. No, I think the lure of New York is, you can't all be Sala. I can't buy that. No, the lure of New York for an athlete, I mean, has made sense forever.

And, I mean, they've talked about Deshaun Watson's hung out in the village. He likes New York and stuff. So, I mean, but I do. I would separate Dan saying that you think that the highest reward for Deshaun Watson is in New York. I mean, the highest reward is winning Super Bowl. So it's like the only thing I'd say about something like San Francisco is that the foundation is there in San Francisco with a coach who's been to a Super Bowl. I'm saying winning the Super Bowl is part of it. but to maximize your branding and to be something of a legend in, you know,

the biggest city in the country, I think his, I think he thinks, Deshaun Watson, that wherever he goes, I have a chance to win the Super Bowl because I'm that special. And if you surround me with the right talent, so then what else can you add to that? But yes, I think the, in terms of the odds of getting a Super Bowl championship, yeah, I mean, as a fan, being a fan of a New York team, that's, or a Miami team, those are built-in advantages to getting, these players that if you live in Cincinnati you're not getting those players so it you know

logically it would pay off for the Jets fans in NFL circles I wanted to know if Casario cares about the fact that it's the Jets I think it's an it's an X factor whether a Easter B and Casario might have some ill will to the Patriots who knows although you know Bill Belichick yeah I don't think Casario would logically and Bill Belichick you know puts this flower thing out, you know, and about how important Nick Casario's been. That said, they didn't let them go to the Texans the time before. Casario ultimately chose Easterby over staying in New England. And these trades do come down, you know, partly to relationships and, like, who you want

to trade with. So that's an ex-pector. No one probably knows except for them on the inside. All right. I'm going to spin the wheel two more times. I'm going to add the Patriots and the Cowboys. So we have Patriots,

Football team, Cowboys, Ram, Steelers You guys got that Okay, here we go Look at that Put down in the image All right Football team All right, I'll do this one

Okay So, uh, Deshawn, David again In a busy day Um Been hearing a lot, you know From the football team in Washington They, they're making the sell They're making the pitch to me.

Ron Rivera, New Era, look at the success they already have. Tough up front. Nation's capital. Gonna do it all. I got to admit, I've heard it all.

I'm not into it. I'd say, I say we say, Mogada. I say, Mulgata's making the choice. He's, I'm looking at,

Mulnata. I'm looking at the last 20 years since this ownership came over. I'm looking at some of the things, even though Ron Rivera's, you know, helped turn the ship around a little bit that I don't love the way that they brought in Marty Herney and then kind of finagle that, okay, he's not actually the GM. I want an organization I can trust, and I know I'm supposed to be pitching on it, but this is a relationship. You've got to trust me, Deshaun, and I don't want to put you in a tough situation. So I don't care how many draft picks, how much money they're offering.

I do not want to go to the Washington football team. That doesn't, yeah, that doesn't get my engine Revin as a football fan either. I mean, obviously I want him to go to the Jets, but if he goes to Washington, I don't know. Maybe it would be awesome, I don't know. If there's another team out there that would give me some Texans vibes in that I would be, look, I know, Ron Rivera's great and all this stuff, but I don't know. I'm not into it. All right, let's spin the wheel again.

Greg, Mark, do you have anything to add to that? No, I think that, like, why go from the Texans to an even more bizarre, thornier, controversy-laden ownership? Plus, there was the whole attack on, you know, the White House and everything. There's a safe there. There's a lot going on. Oh, okay. I don't know about that. I'm just joking.

All right, here we go. Here we go. With a blank team, do nothing. I like that. All right. Mark, the Dallas Cowboys, America's team. Oh, wow. What's not to love about the Dallas Cowboys?

I mean, you grew up a football fan. Well, the last 25 years. I don't, well, but that's the whole point, isn't it? That's the whole point, because Jerry Jones is an owner, number one, beloved by his players. I mean, if anything, if anything, between you and me, Deshaun, like, his loyalty to some of his players may have been one of his bigger faults. He loves to spend money, big money, on all sorts of players. And, you know, they've got the DAC Prescott situation right now, but I think that this is a really pretty seamless, incredible solution to that would keep you in Texas.

But think about the switch, the organizational switch you'd be making from a Texans team that is not even a little brother to the Cowboys. It's just the Texans have essentially never really accomplished anything. You go to the most storied franchise in the league, one that has not won a Super Bowl since 1995. But regardless, guys like Tony Romer are revered. All quarterbacks, the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, I could tell you this. Not only would you have a career where you could win immediate Super Bowls with a team that will always find a way to sign players. And you already are walking into an offense with the Zeculele in the best wide receiving group in the NFC if you want to look at it that way.

You could be the heir apparent to Troy Aikman, all right, to Roger Stalback, to so many Cowboys great. and you move right into a Monday night football booth after that. And I'm telling you right now, this is you changing the history of the NFL forever. I mean, I cannot think of a better pairing. I cannot think of a better pairing than you in a Dallas Cowboys uniform. It's every little boy's dream before they pick a team of their own. It's the one brand that is worldwide as big as any sports team out there

and bigger than most any company. This could be you as the centerpiece of it. And yes, that would be tough as a rookie. But you right now, the Deshaun Watson, we know, you could handle it. And you could turn the Dallas Cowboys into a annual Super Bowl team. This is the place to go. It's why it's the last one we're doing. This is the brand cell that trumps, obviously, even the Raiders.

And especially a guy that has now played his entire pro career in Texas. They're in very different, you know, a few no Texas at all. There's hundreds of miles that separate Houston. from Dallas, which is in North Texas. But still, you can't escape the specter of the Cowboys and how huge everything is around Dallas. So I would think that that would be attractive to him. He would stay somewhat local

and he would have a chance to now be on still, despite the 25 years without a Super Bowl appearance, still the team that A, is always on prime time and it always gets the love. And B, similar to how I was talking about the Jets, like you could be the guy who goes there and returns the Cowboys to prominence and makes them a champion again

when you factor in the playmakers too, yeah. I don't know if Ezekiel Elliott's part of the future, especially once you have to give DAC the money, you have to give the money to Deshaun Watson that you're given to DAC. I guess my question to you, Greg, is we all love Deshaun Watson. Is it that big an upgrade to make the move

and surrender all the draft capital to go from DAC to Deshaun. Well, maybe you wouldn't have to give as much up. You shouldn't as another team if Dak Prescott's part of the deal. I love... Probably still number one or maybe two number ones, right? I don't know. Dak and a number one.

Here's the thing. I don't think... I love this deal more than any other for Houston because the only way to me that it makes any sense to trade away a player like Deshaun Watson is if you're getting the top 10, quarterback back. And I'd much rather have Dak Prescott than the number two overall. You could sell that to your fans. Overall pick it. It makes all the sense in the world.

That said, these two franchises, I know that there's been a legit sort of rivalry between the ownerships that they're fighting for the same territory. The Texans fans are trying to get Cowboys fans, become Texans fans when they move to Houston. And it's a little hard to imagine. But from the Houston side, I think it makes more sense than anything. And from the Dallas side, who's always been, like, slightly more lukewarm on Dak Prescott than seemingly they should be. It makes a lot of sense, too. I mean, I love it.

I love it sort of for the NFL. It sends you to the NFC, too, which you think the Texans would love. Like, it's just crazy enough to work. If the ownership can, you know, get over the fact that you're delivering Dallas Cowboys, Deshaun Watson, which I don't know if they could get over that. That's tough.

That's tough to swallow. Because even if you do get back, Dak, and the fans will be, I think, somewhat pleased by if we have to trade our superstar, we can get one back and he's a guy that everyone loves in Dak. But to keep him in Texas and to make him now the center, he'll be it like we said on, in prime time all the time. Fans might revolt. Fans might revolt. I mean, you want to send him to Antarctica. I don't think they're going to do it. Even if, even with Dak there, Dak is the only thing that makes it even remotely plausible, but the idea of the Texans who

are a little brother in that state to the Cowboys ever giving him their greatest player ever, I don't, I just Can't see. So Easterby and Casario have no link to the Cowboys Texans on the rivalry, but I would think Cal McNair would. Right, exactly. He would. I think the Texans really do have to think about the impact they're making with their fans over the next 15 years if you're getting rid of Watson and Watt in the same opposite. Well, you mean start thinking about it because they haven't clearly given that a second of thought.

I mean, I can't think of a team that more coldly is acting like we don't care about the fans. much rather have Deshaun Watson, but to be Dak Prescott a first and whatever, a little more, I think that's it's not crazy. That's how highly I think Dak Prescott should be viewed as a top 10 quarterback moving forward. All right.

That's good. That was fun. I think we got seven or eight teams. Yeah. Knocked out there. I mean, Steelers, you know, calm down. You're probably not getting them. The only one I would say, I don't know if you have the Capitol, but Deshawn Watson in a Broncos uniform with that offense the way it is would be intriguing to me. Although I don't know, Deshawn Watson and Pat

Shermer don't feel like they're going to go down in the record books together. So you'd have to make some tweaks. Them and the lines are the teams, I think, that have the most, that are in position to be super aggressive. Well, so, Dan, what would you do if, I'm just saying this is not impossible. This is the most second, second most cap room in the league and future picks, the Patriots. East or being Casario pulling, I mean, to a point where Pink Pony is not even a joke, it's just simply come to fruition as the most annoying thing in the league. I mean, it would number one to be terrible. Number two, I don't stress about it too much because it feels like Texans, again,

if you're at all factoring in where your fan base is at, you already feel like you've been losing for a decade plus this attempt to be Patriot South. and if you then were to send your greatest quarterback ever to the Patriots, I mean, what kind of, I mean, what kind of business is that to do? But send them anywhere is bad business. Here's the thing, though. There are places that are worse than others, and the Patriots, to me, are on that list,

that it would come off even more poorly than other teams. Mike Tomlin has that quote, like, don't live in your fears, you know. I mean, he was kind of living in his fears when he punted on fourth and one from the 48. But to me, that's where the Texans have been. They've been living in their fears. And I really put some stock into this whole AFC thing. I really think that's them living in their fears, and they're going to do whatever they can because they're, like,

just acting out of cowardice almost. And that is going to help these NFC teams that want them. Could be. Could be that way. All right. That's it for the week. No network show this week. We'll be back on, what are we doing?

Monday or Tuesday? So Tuesday, next time you hear from us, Tuesday, we also have a special Super Bowl Week show planned that will connect us with the listeners. Maybe we'll share details of that on Tuesday, because I don't have it in front of me right now. We should share it now. All right, Ricky, why don't you set the table then? Yeah, so we are going to be doing a virtual show, not a live show. So there's only going to be a limited amount.

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So keep this space. So, yeah, it'll be an invite only, a little extra show, and we'll send it out on social. Very, yeah, very interactive. Wednesday, 11 a.m. Slow, I would just, I'd DM, Erica. If information is not getting to you as quick as you need it, get hit her up one-on-one, and she can give you the personal attention

and get you probably in there on the get into the cut, right? Yeah, for sure. Very interactive. It'll feature a mailbag and Q&A with those. who are in that room with us. So that's cool. So we'll have that show next week. And we'll also have other podcast goodness,

including our Super Bowl preview show on Thursday. And then, of course, Sunday night, Super Bowl Sunday, the final flagship show of the season where we recap the big game. So a lot coming up this week. Thank you to everybody who's listened to all season long and, you know, all these years. Love you guys.

All right. That's it. Stan Hans is signing off for quiet storm the old boss there it is again this reminds me of every bad club I had to go to in college

like where are we going tonight one of those clubs right now that's where are we going tonight we're going to bar no we're going we're going to Lansdowne going to a club it's like oh not again you just got through it

that was part of that was part of the culture back then I thought it was fun sometimes Sometimes you had to be in the right mindset. Depends what happens to you, but I mean, anything could happen. Ricky, does this sound like a ladies' night? Yeah, it sounds like I would do disgusting things to be able to get back to Lansdowne Street. Anywhere. Ladies' night.

Ladies drink free. Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies. The desperation to get women into clubs and bars by promoters is one of the funniest things. All right. Dan Hans is signing off. Poor Quiet Storm, Ricky Hollywood. Ricky Lansdown, I call her. Quiet Storm.

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