NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - History Revisited and WHO AM I?

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

In a room full of heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Marc Sessler and Wolfe play America’s favorite guessing game Who Am I! But, before all the fun, our heroes discuss some news from around the l...eague. The heroes start the show by sharing some details about the upcoming schedule release (5:20) , then Dan takes us on a journey as we revisit a historic NFL record and take a look at some newly discovered information that may bring its legitimacy into question (7:29). Next, we play everyone's favorite game, Who Am I (27:57). And finally, we go over some very important soccer news (54:32). Note: time codes approximate.  NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:32 Greg Rosenthal and Mjark, Sessler. But, Miarc, we are not alone. I cannot stand what you've done already. What? We opened the show previously, and you did not lace in that insulting intro of me. And then the second time around we do it,
Starting point is 00:01:52 you announced my name that way. Whoa. Incorrect. I love the way this is beginning. Whoa. Sestog coming in hot and I love it. To my right.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Legend. Hey, everybody. It's Colleen Wolfe. It's got an epoch. A tiny box. It's got a box. A tiny box. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Welcome back, Colleen. Thank you. This is kind of. It reminds me of high school. Catchy. Little 311 vibe. Yeah, you had a lot of different phases musically in your life. I have an eclectic mix of music that I really like.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And yeah, I was actually just, I went to the Beach Life Festival and Hermosa and they had the dirty heads there, which remind me a lot of 311. So I actually have been listening to a lot of 311 lately, randomly. So this kind of like fits right in. I'm surprised it ages well enough for getting repeat listening in the year of 2024. It's more of like a beach vibe, like a 3-11 radio that brings in some other, like, reggae tones and stuff, too. Am I the only person that doesn't hear 3-Eleven at all in that song? Really?
Starting point is 00:03:07 I don't really hear it. I hear like a pop-punk type vibe almost like a little, maybe a little ska sneaking in there. Yeah. Anyway, good to see you, Connie. Well, hey, guys. It's a while. I know. For a while.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Dan is sick. And it's already unnerving me. a bit that he's sitting next to me did not tell me that he had a fever yesterday. I'd say, yes, he may be sick but he's brave. Because it's brave to, you know, to, you know, to you, I know you were cuddled up under a quilt
Starting point is 00:03:37 at home with Fult. Tough Wednesday. Yeah. And but here you are. And so it's like, that says a lot about you, but also you have exposed us to potential illness. So there's a good rebound though. Like, I'm surprised that you were as sick as you say. I, it is a good rebound.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I agree. I rebound. As you say you I, I, uh, my wife was giving, my wife was giving me a hard time this morning, uh, that I was perhaps taking the symptoms, um, too seriously, um, which was a total trap because I know what she's trying to do. She's trying to call you. I mean, listen, she, the old insinuation that men can't handle getting a cold is how she put it, the little C, how I put it. Um, and then like, she, she wants me to then say, yeah, but women also call complain about other things. Didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Didn't take the cheese. Didn't take the cheese. In your weakened, maybe intellectual state, you know, physically and intellectually, she's trying to trap you and you, and you didn't go down that road. I didn't, I literally, I didn't have the strength to do it. But I wanted to be here. This wasn't like a phantom thread situation where she truly only loves you when you're sick. That's exactly what she was doing, Dan.
Starting point is 00:04:45 She does not love me when I'm sick. All right, today's show. Also, the only thing I did do to, to enrage her when she was getting for work as I put on I am the warrior by Patty's wife. Oh my God. I just put it on loop until she came in and said, I get it.
Starting point is 00:05:02 God bless Emily, honestly. Jesus, saint. All right, today's show. Here we go. It is May 9th.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That's an interesting time in the calendar. Interesting in the fact that it's not a very interesting time on the calendar. But we're going to have fun because we're going to do a little bit of a news in a bit. We're going to have a fun SEG. Feel like a high level, a potential breakdown here in communication. will Connie get the SEG? Why is it on me?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Why is it? Uh-oh. I don't like this pattern of me being the problem. It's happening again. I'm sorry. I'm just saying that... Maybe Greg gets it wrong. Maybe Mark gets it wrong.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Maybe you have it different than all of us. I need Dan to go first to set the template and then I'm going to follow it. And I want to just see how Mark's simmering nature to start the show, how that continues. You came in real hot then. I don't like that the way that you... Which one?
Starting point is 00:05:54 wasn't. I mean, I know why. It's because we were on the docket. You wouldn't like it, Greg. It builds slowly. It's like a boiling pot of water. Right. As we get further and further away from the original estimated time to start the show. But we have like a cocktail hour before we actually start the program. So we do like a little mingling first. Yeah, that was that was blown over. That was like the show needs to simmer a little bit before the mics turn on. And you guys are all going to be the beneficiaries of a tremendous show. So the schedule release, by the way, and I am so annoyed about hearing about when the schedule's coming out,
Starting point is 00:06:32 as if it's the be-all end-all, but we still don't know the exact day, although we kind of do know the exact day, but it has been officially announced. So it's coming out next week, as we understand it. So originally there was an idea that it might be around now. It's going to be next week, and then we'll talk about it then.
Starting point is 00:06:49 So there's your update on the schedule release. All right, let's get to the news first. Hodes, steps up, Huddley, Sack, T.J. Lott, NFL history. Lott has tied Michael Strayhan's single season record 22 and a half sacks. Let me just start. Let me just start by saying thank you to the listeners of our show
Starting point is 00:07:19 who are always so supportive of my bottomless well of pity bull's shit. I have to say you people make sure I see the things that need to be seen and I appreciate you for that. With that said, what you heard right there was T.J. Waugh taking down Lamar, not Lamar Jackson. That was Ty Huntley for sack number
Starting point is 00:07:38 22 and a half in the 2021 season. That tied, as you heard. What was that the bird? No, that was Ian Eagle. Yeah, I mean I type of bird, but yeah. What was the old when it was Fouts and Iron Eagle? What were they? The bird and the beard. Bird in the beard.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Anyway, that tied Michael Strahan's NFL record that had been set 20 years earlier. A record mark, as you know, I've been very vocal and consistent in denigrating because Brett Farr, for those that don't know, slid at Strahan's feet in a pre-orchestrated flop job
Starting point is 00:08:12 to give him the record that was previously held not for nothing by Jets' great Mark Gassano. Anyway, get out the red string because this story goes even deeper. Let's head to it. Let me see it. from Jaguar Gator 9 on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Okay, while researching for this video, I may have uncovered something absolutely insane. I don't think Michael Strayhan's sack record from 2001 is legitimate. He didn't have 22 and a half sacks. It was a stat error. And no, I'm not talking about Brett Farv sack in week 17. Next tweet. And he goes on to show this play from week eight against the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:08:45 counted as a sack for Strayhan. Clint Storner snaps the ball at the 44-yard line. He makes it to the 43 and a half yard line. He gains half a yard. You can even see it on the official, the official on the near side ahead of where the original line of scrimmage and yet, despite the quarterback gaining yardage, they credited Strayhan with the sack.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Well, that's a... Wait, in what week was that sack? That was week eight. Okay. Against the Cowboy. Can they go back and change that? No, but we can. We can just no longer recognize that.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And I think as, you know, an NFL podcast at the... league we have some influence and we can be the change that we want to see in the world our reality is completely shattered prince yeah prince once said that yeah so what are your thoughts on that one well i think number one let's talk about the fact that it's an incredible piece of you know 11th hour journalism not even the 11th hour the next day right i mean this happened a long time ago apparently this is an unrelated project project that jaguar gator nine was working on and he just stumbled upon a historic malfunction in the stat keeping of the national football.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I'm impressed, and I think it's another example of not just your bravery, Dan, to be here today, but this is a case you've been on personally for a long time. And while you also, not unlike others, pointed to the farv sack, you could sense that something else was amiss all along. And Jaguar Gator 9 has helped you in that effort. That was your intuition talking to you, Dan. He's helped us all. Thank you, Colin.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Your intuition or this guy? I'm not taking any credit for it. I'm saying Jaguar Gator 9 deserves all of the credit. And you know who deserves none of the credit? Michael Strayhan. Because I really, I'm down to take two sacks away. If we are the, we're the tastemakers here. Let's knock them down to 20 and a half.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Maybe we should investigate all of these records, honestly. Well, if you think, if you think about every rushing play that's basically ever happened in the NFL, you know, there's some, it was that when it's three and a half, half yards, do you give them four or do you give them three? Like, how on top of things are we really on all this stuff? Do you get credit for a sack if you get back to the line of scrimmage? No. I don't think so, right?
Starting point is 00:11:04 No. Once it's at the line of scrimmage, you don't get it. And that sounds like this case is one where... He's closer to gaining a full yard than half yard. Wouldn't it be on Michael Strahan, who's still alive and with us and, you know, is a thinking individual to say, accountability. I can't claim this record. Yes. That's the next step. And I'm sure someone will reach out to. We'll have you guys reached out.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Maybe that's the next step. Not yet. Well, it is, it is, we were talking about this. What was the story? How the NFL, when it's slow, the news that does come up, starts to snowball fast. Because there's nothing else to talk about. Someone's going to reach out to Strayhan very quickly on this. And we'll see if he could be man enough to acknowledge the truth.
Starting point is 00:11:43 There also was, remember back in the day, and this was a big storyline on this podcast, that Al Baker was. was actually the unofficial holder. We spent like a solid... I think we had Al in the show. We spent a solid week on this. Al Baker in 1978 had the unofficial record
Starting point is 00:12:00 before they kept track of sacks and we wanted to recognize him. So this really is a passion project for you, Dave. No limits to the pettiness. All right, let's get to the rest of the news. Greg, explain to me how this works. So the Patriots are continuing to interview for executive vice president
Starting point is 00:12:21 of player personnel. They have not had this team an official general manager since 1990. That's silly. Bill Belichick was the de facto GM while he was there forever. Same with Parcells.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Elliot Wolfe, this offseason was the de facto. Enough with the de facto. Yeah. Cancel out a little bit with de facto. Anyway, so this team is not looking for a GM but they are looking for the
Starting point is 00:12:52 EVP, a player personnel. I don't know why that guy's not in place before the draft. Exactly. But who is it going to be and why is it happening in the middle of men? I think other people in the NFL that were asked to interview for this job believe it's going to be Elliott Wolf. And so they refuse the interview. Pro Football Talks
Starting point is 00:13:08 has been writing, all the different people that have opened. Yes, this is our lead news item. Right. But it is ridiculous. And it's just sort of a note that Like, they're probably going through a charade to then land on it. And if not, then they just let Elliot Wolf run the draft and made these important decisions. And it does make you wonder exactly like, what's going on here? Who's making these decisions?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Like, let's be definitive. Is this because of the Rooney rule? That could be part of it that they have to. I think that's why. Hey, Connie. Way to sniff it out. But I would think that the Rooney rule would have a rule within. the rule that it would have to be done
Starting point is 00:13:47 before the draft, right? Well, I guess this is the time of year that scouting departments and general managers do often change or whatever, but it does seem a little outrageous and there's been talk of like who's making all the decisions here. Just why not give a GM job to
Starting point is 00:14:03 even when Pete Carroll was there, they didn't I mean, you have a lead executive. Who was it with Pete Carroll? Gosh, I forget his name. Greer. I believe it was Bobby Greer was his name. So like, and There was clashes between him and the coach in Pete Carroll. And so you got to look, you got to look and wonder who's making the decisions.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It's fair to ask that question, Greg. In other news, after playing the Chiefs in two straight AFC title games, uh, Joe Burrow had to sit out last year for most of it anyway, including the most important games of the year because he suffered that terrible wrist. And what a mess. Two thousand twenty three was one injury after another at the game's most important positions. Many of them right on island games. Who could forget, Burrow bending over, doubling over in pain
Starting point is 00:14:52 after trying to do a warm-up throw on the sideline. Imagine as a Bengals fan the way you felt at that moment. Anyway, now he's back. That was a Thursday night game. It was. And now he's back. He's ready to return. He's ready to kind of get back to where he was,
Starting point is 00:15:05 which is Patrick Mahomes' number one nemesis. Here's what he said at a Tuesday press conference when asked about the defending back-to-back champion chiefs. Yeah, they were great. Their defense was one of the best in the league. They have great players on that side of the ball. And then obviously they got Patrick and Travis in their own line and those playmakers. So, you know, they're the gold standard right now. Everybody's chasing them. Obviously, they're back-to-back world champs. Somebody's got to knock them off. I'm hoping it's us. At the risk of repeating myself, I've said multiple times on the show what a bummer it was when Burrow and the Bengals exited from the conversation last year because they are such a great foil and challenger to, the Chiefs and you get the feeling that Burrow, who, by the way, we're hearing is really gone next level in training and as he looks to. Oh, yeah, he's not skipping any meals. That's what I'm no meals being skipped. This is ball back. Bulked up a little bit. Bulked up. All those old
Starting point is 00:15:59 tropes are in play. But with Burrow, I kind of buy in because I think he's that type of killer. They are the team that they knocked off the Chiefs in the AFC title game. They've beaten them in each of the, they beat them in the regular season two years ago and three years ago. We're, more than the bills. So I see them as the better challenger. But I'll say this last year. Like, you're in a division where you came in fourth. So there's three other teams you need to take care of first.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And one of those teams went through about six quarterbacks and made the playoffs. The others was the Steelers who decided their starter shouldn't be their starter about eight minutes after the season ended. So I get it. But come on. Spangleston. Well, it's a team sport. At this point, it's wind in the willows. And just a wind gust to talk about someone's got to take over the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like, we get that. That's not news. It is interesting that. within that same division, you have Joe Burrow who's bulking up and he's saying that he's seen results and he's not, he's got his meal schedule on and everything else. And then Lamar Jackson
Starting point is 00:16:54 who is slimming down and doing the opposite. Leaning out. He said he's down at 205. Like 20 pounds? Like 15 pounds. Yeah, that's a lot. Surprising. Was Burrow not on a diet plan before this offseason? I think he just maybe the rehab and stuff. He's adding some weight.
Starting point is 00:17:11 That bengal team last year wasn't going anywhere because the defense stunk as far as I mean, that's not the only reason they made the Super Bowl, but it's the main reason they made the Super Bowl. They carried Joe Burrow in some ways who had maybe his worst three-game stretch of the year in the playoffs before the Super Bowl. I also noticed he was getting creative,
Starting point is 00:17:28 and I don't think Mark or any of us would like this, because I'll put myself into it. He suggested talking about the potential 18-game schedule if that happens. He also wants like a second buy week in there at some point. So we're really pushing this. Schedule release is just going to be like the end- I like the second buy week better than the 18th game.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Just add a second buy for everyone. If you want to add a week, don't add a game. And that does make the week, the season longer. And then you finish and you have a national holiday. Well, we know that we know that's happening. And I think it's where the season is going to stretch nearly into March at this point. That just that's life. That's how it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And that would probably work out for the international games, though, too. Well, there'll be nine of those. So, I mean, it's like, I think let's just, let's just, let's stop. Like, don't push against it. It's just happening. Yeah, exactly. It's a slow creep, by the way, because I have a tradition with my bosom buddy, Bob, and our families, we go to Big Bear, that President's Day weekend. And five years ago, it was two weeks clear of the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:18:26 In the last couple of years, it's been now one week clear of the Super Bowl. And now, whenever the next labor agreement or whatever it is comes in, it will be that week. And there will be no more trips, Mark, to Big Bear. No more memories. It will be, see ya at the game. You'll have different memories. They'll be very different. It really gives me extra anxiety with tax season, too.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Like, the more the NFL season expands, the more like the deadline gets closer and there's less time to figure things out. The season ends and it's just like... Tax talk. You got to take care of all of your life stuff. Transactions. Tyler Boyd is off the market.
Starting point is 00:19:05 The wide receiver goes to the Titans. Okay. It's a nice little signing for Tennessee on May 9th. Alan Robinson signs with the Giants. Who cares? Andrews Pete, the offensive lineman, to the Raiders. By the way, while we're here, Big Funk, how are you, bud?
Starting point is 00:19:21 What's up? How's it gone? So, let's hear it. Sorry. You know, Funk is, if the listeners have noted, I don't know if we brought it up, but ETPs, him and his wife, are getting very close to the arrival of the baby.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So now you have, let's hear it, dude. Yeah. Now you have Funk help us out every Thursday behind the glass. Very capably. Oh, I love this. He's doing great. Listen to that.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So Funk, I kind of forgot what I was going to say. Oh, yeah, that's what it was. I'm not 100%. Oh, God. Brain fog. I do like when you just clear your throat every five minutes or seven. Can you pull up the graybeards roster? Let's see who's left.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I wish we had like a partition I could put up. between me and Dan. You could be like Kirk cousin. Cup it up, all you. Remember Kirk? Oh, yeah. He was his own little booth. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper.
Starting point is 00:20:24 The Graveyard's roster, which we put together as a group about a month ago now, I want to say. Who's left? Let's see. Ryan Tannahill and Blaine Gabbardt, a quarterback. They're available. Zeke is now signed by the Cowboys. Jerich McKinnon. Still around?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Wide receiver is Odell. He is off the market. Boyd is now off the market. Michael Thomas. So out there, 101 on the top 101. MVS. Available. Tight-ins.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Logan Thomas and Marcedes Lewis. Available. This feels like a quiz. Big Bone Randy, a kicker. Eternally available. Sean Lendetta Fottres. We did it. We should have them on the show.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Andrews Pete is taking out. But yeah, most of them are still available. Gilmore still there. A lot of cornerback. Zavian Howard's another one. We mentioned the other day. Tyler Boyd is actually a meaningful signing, I feel like. full signing, I feel like, for this late in the mix.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I think it's a good move. Just because they're thin. DeAndre Hopkins, okay, number one at this point in the vizier, I mean, his career, but get a good starter. Calvin really solid starter, a little inconsistent, but made a lot of money for a reason. But it was a pretty big fall, I think, to Traylon Burks is now. Probably number four. Yeah, I think Burks has taken a seat to some degree.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah. I think it's where he should be. It's made, not a seat, but like you throw in 30 snaps a game, you get him in the mix. I love that offensive. coordinator. We talked about the floutist. Frank Signetti. We talked about the floutist? Yeah. If even medieval times, this is how flautus actually sound. Can we not sleep on the sax man? You couldn't. They really work well together. You're making me wonder because Walker is in the decision-making process. They have to choose an instrument for orchestra next year.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, yeah. Or do chorus, but he doesn't want to do that. Don't go. Don't go. Don't go flute. I think flute though You guys are talking up the flute It's light. I'm thinking more What's the heaviest to carry to school? I've always wanted to play the saxophone And you can like jam out to the saxophone Saxophone at a wedding. Have you ever actually played the
Starting point is 00:22:26 saxophone? As someone who played some horns back? I mean kind of it sucks. You were honking back then? So early. What do you mean he played some horns? Remember like our school was similar That everyone had to play an instrument And I tried the trumpet and the saxophone Oh, this wasn't Delaware Relo? No, that
Starting point is 00:22:42 This, and I was like, this is terrible, and I switched. It, like, hurts your lips. You know, it's hard. I did trumpet. I did trumpet and tuba. Yeah, it's not fun. Really? Yeah, I played tuba.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I did tuba. I played tuba out of the novelty of it. And then it became me lugging a giant tub. Yeah, how much was that way? This is what I'm talking about. I was like, let a mess. I don't even remember. I was, like, in middle school.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I had this big thing. Our instruments were old. Oh, my gosh. That gives me anxiety. We walk both the elementary and the middle school. So that's, it's a big considering. You don't want to be lugging around the, the immense instrument that you eventually leave
Starting point is 00:23:13 in someone's car and it's gone across town. It's like a five-year decision too if you go do it all through middle school. Maybe it's the high school. If you were born in and about 1980, the sax by the late 80s was a very cool instrument because it was all over music on the radio and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I'm still a stupid. And I remember everyone when it was like who could sign up for like Greg's talking about a band or whatever music classes. Everyone wanted to get on the sax and I signed up too late. Couldn't get sax lessons. But then it turned out to be more like a criminal punishment for all the kids that were able to sign up because it was so hard, apparently.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I quit so fast that it was like torture. And meanwhile, I'm just like an extended recess while they're like in their own private hell trying to learn how to play an impossible instrument. Awful. I went to school at a more realistic time where they realized like, hmm, 87% of these people probably have no music ability. So I had the option to take music history with a teacher named Mama fun. Yeah, Mama Hodge would just play records and you sit in the back row and don't do what you don't think of a lick of business. What is your, what is your theory there? A more realistic time? What is that?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Well, it's like the entire class learns how to play an instrument, like the vast majority of people. But all it takes is one one kid that really has a natural gift for it. And there's only one way to find out, Mark. You've got to give children. I knew I didn't, though. Access to music. Because music programs are so important
Starting point is 00:24:32 to the education system. I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't have to believe in every child in terms of every skill or ability. Wow. Realism. I played the piano and I'm glad you're not an educator. I'll put it that way
Starting point is 00:24:46 with that attitude. Music history is valuable too. I learned a lot. I can't blame that. But I do like the idea that everyone gets a shot if they want. Well, I am playing the role
Starting point is 00:24:57 of villain in this conversation. Can I try a horn? No, you can. You got to be realistic, son. If they want to, but you got a bunch of people sitting in like, I did a chorus. It's like, I'm going to be.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Right. Come on people. One thing. One thing I would say a life lesson from the saxophone trumpet time was I think I quit that stuff so fast. Like, never let your parents tell you you can't quit things if you feel it in your gut. I was to chorus weeks later and I'm not a good singer. But it was a lot more fun. You can hide in chorus.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Mark, imagine if you had a drum set that was just like put in front of you. How much would you have loved that as a kid? We've got some breaking news. A trade on May 9th. What? And it's a trade worthy of May 9th. The Rams are sending Super Bowl champion wide receiver on the field during the game-winning drive
Starting point is 00:25:47 to win the Super Bowl. Ben Scoronic to the Texans. It's a train. Wow. I'm speechless. Home in the desert over here. So they cut them and then they didn't cut them. They announced there was a report that they were cutting them
Starting point is 00:26:02 and the Texans apparently then called them and said, like, we'll give you what I've been guessing is like a seventh round conditional type of pick. Isn't Ben Squornick when they, when O'Dell got hurt in the Super Bowl, he was like thrust into a
Starting point is 00:26:17 major role at the end of that game? That was saying. That was, well, he was there, but he was being targeted. I think he made one big catch but also had a couple drops
Starting point is 00:26:24 in the game. It was absolutely right. He vanished last year because of Puka, but he was an interesting like seventh round player there for a two seasons fullback, I believe. Team captain too last year. It was?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. Honey. Good nug. Good on special teams. All right, let's take a break and then we'll play a little guess who. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.
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Starting point is 00:28:50 Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. All right, we are back. It is time now to have a little fun. Isn't that great, Colleen? Oh, my God, yeah. It's so important. That's great.
Starting point is 00:29:07 What's going on with the summer of Connie? I know, speaking of fun, what do you have planned this summer? You know what? We're in the early stages of things. Summer of Connie needs to unfold on its own. Like, it's more of an organic in the moment type thing. So you kind of go wherever the world pulls you at any given time.
Starting point is 00:29:26 So sometimes having no plan. But no tickets to Greece this year. No tickets to Greece yet this year. Not the play of the country. Yeah, exactly. So staying stateside for right now. All right. Well, we all, we kind of live through you.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So there's almost a little bit of pressure for you to give us that experience. If I recall, she talked about hosting a party at her compound like the hours after the draft ended. So that's that is true. And then also, I feel like usually the kickoff happens around the time that we do a remote for the show. Right. Right. Well, don't hold your breath on the on that. all right so blame the NFL scheduled for that maybe not falling into place this year all right well we will
Starting point is 00:30:11 have a remote show at school all right let's get into it uh let's uh it's a it's a game called guess who uh we're going to talk about some uh people in the NFL world who you know these are people that matter put it that way and uh everyone grab your whiteboard and a marker uh the key to this game is we take turns laying out descriptions of this figure without trying to give it away immediately. Wait until the end of the setup to make your guess, write it down on the board, and then we'll see if you guys are able to guess it correctly. I will get us going. Mark and I are making eyes at each other.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, I'm hoping I did it. I did it. The exercise. How are you feeling now that I've... I thought we would be guessing after each one? But I'm going to adjust. Okay. I mean like after each clue.
Starting point is 00:31:09 We have multiple like clues. Oh no. It's good. It's a building. Teared. We're all great improv actors. Like now it's time to maybe kill the one that was too obvious at the very end that I had ready. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Hit it funk. Let's get into it. I am an important figure in the landscape of pro football. Okay. It's literally anyone. The look, the look. Greg just going to take my whiteboard out of the whiteboard. You should have seen the withering look that Mark just gave you, Greg,
Starting point is 00:31:42 when you started tugging at his whiteboard. Why not share? Why not share, buddy? Because we all have one. Why would we share? I found one under the table. I need a marker, but I don't want you to touch it. All right. I, in case you missed it,
Starting point is 00:31:58 am an important figure in the landscape of pro football. Okay. I'm hot. Or maybe I'm not. It's actually hard to say for sure. Don't let people see your answer, brother. My NFL career to this point
Starting point is 00:32:16 has not been a disappointment, but, you know, it's rarely been thrilling. I'm not a bust or a direct hit. The highs have been memorable, but not iconic. The low is mostly forgettable. Or explained away. I'm laying in the weeds right now. mostly forgotten as other players in my position group have assumed the mantle of the next big thing.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I still could be the next big thing. Society moves so fast and we tend to make snap judgments on things that require more time to effectively understand. You know, what's up of that? I'm not the type to run my mouth in the media or write a dopey personal letter on Derek Jeter's website. This is me direct to the people. I'm actually largely formless in terms of personality, which has some ways described the kind of mystery to me. Still, I remain a figure of legitimate intrigue and immense promise.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Who am I? All right, we're going to go around. Feel very confident. All right. Well, let me go to you third then. Okay. Let's start with Colleen. I almost want to hear the clues again, but I know that's not part of the game.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's not great for the show. Listening experience And those at home Can play along Obviously The game has layers Okay I'm gonna say
Starting point is 00:33:41 That it is a quarterback And That's correct The first quarterback I wrote It was a ding Sam Howell But
Starting point is 00:33:49 And leading the segment Sam Howell would be Dead I'm gonna go Zach Wilson All right We're gonna go now To Greg
Starting point is 00:33:55 I'm not gonna say Why there is No Because he he said This person was not a bust So No way Wilson. I wrote it down
Starting point is 00:34:03 very early, and then as you got towards the end, I got, I grew less confident. Okay. I'm going with Kyler. Interesting. Okay. Mark Sessler? What's going on with your wise? Did you show your board, by the way? Oh, maybe not. I got a little less
Starting point is 00:34:21 confident as you crept along there, too. I wrote this about two sentences in, but I went Trevor Lawrence. That is correct. Yeah, that is it. That's it. Trevor Lawrence. I got stuck on Kyler and great job Mark didn't get it I knew you'd get it well I also you know I listen to what you say on the show and Trevor Lawrence has been a figure that you brought up in in the terms that you described right there multiple times unbelievable the way see it all pays off it does having that
Starting point is 00:34:46 level of a job but isn't it interesting that Kyler also a number one overall traffic until you got to the part where like you had no idea about his personality which that I was like people kind of do have an idea about Kyler I mean color it's been sort of has written posts I know. He's saying, like, let's start with that. I mean, is Trevor Lawrence?
Starting point is 00:35:05 That's where I went Trevor Lawrence. Was like, I should have known. He's, like, statue-esque, but it's hard to tell if he's, like, classically. He's kind of like a Disney prince,
Starting point is 00:35:15 but, like, when you take that and you take it out of animation and make it a real person, it's like, is that he looks a little almost too, like angular and cartoonish? This is the main reason. How about you, Colleen?
Starting point is 00:35:26 What do you think? Is Trevor Lawrence is an attractive man? I mean he's fine No takes, okay I mean he's like six six I think in person I think he's a good looking kid I look at him like he's a kid though
Starting point is 00:35:40 So well he is a full blown adult But I get it though And and now you know Just to kind of go over And I do think he is laying in the weeds Because he does have In that division where everyone now
Starting point is 00:35:54 Is counted out the Jags He could be the difference maker there If, if, and I know you've made a point of it, Greg, like if you go back and rewatch, that was an absurd Jaguar season last year. It was a disappointing one, obviously coming off. The egos kind of let them off the hook of like unbelievable collapses because they had, they collapsed in the stretch. They like reverse outshine them. And Lawrence obviously ended the season injured and was banged up, but there were so many different moments where Trevor Lawrence almost had a huge play, a huge touchdown. the ball was bobbled or it was one foot down in the back of the end zone like that was a hallmark of their season incredibly frustrating so you kind of you wipe the board and he's obviously you would think comes back 100% healthy they do not I think Doug Peterson said we're now we're no longer like the the hunted where the hunters and all that I think if you believe in Doug Peterson Connie and I know that you have reason to believe in Ben Peterson's Super Bowl champion there's some pretty good bulletin board material and ways to get that team
Starting point is 00:36:58 that does have talent, a lot of talent, actually, to buy into the idea that nobody believes in us. And that matters in sports. It was a disappointing year for him. Highest sack percentage he's ever had, struggled to, like, connect down the field. And then they suddenly had Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas Jr., who, you know, there wasn't a plan.
Starting point is 00:37:20 They wanted to keep Ridley, and they got outbid. And those two guys are very similar to me, just like total burner. So it's sort of the opposite of, last year where they weren't throwing the ball down the field. He felt a little too conservative, had a lot of interceptions. He wasn't bad, but this is a guy, I kind of forgot this, but he fit a seventh in MVP voting in 2022.
Starting point is 00:37:39 He actually got a few, like, third place votes there in MVP. And was the quarterback of one of the great comebacks in playoff history in round one? He was fine, though. But you're right that the world moves on. That was the part where I thought you were talking about Kyler, because I was like, Kyler is sneaky only one year older than Michael Pennix. And he's still a very talented player. And the world's really moved on from him.
Starting point is 00:38:01 But Lawrence made more sense. I mean, I thought there were like trade whispers around Kyler Murray. Like Trevor Lawrence is years away of unproductive play to be called a bust. I think if anything, he's a big bounceback candidate. I need to write down the clues. Yeah. So I can reference them as they built. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:20 This is like quarterback ranking season and I've seen some pop up and I still see him creeping into the top 10, which surprised me. I would not. Did you roll that other market? off the table? I did, yeah. It was unintentional, but it rolled off the glass table.
Starting point is 00:38:33 There's no boundaries on the table. Who wants to go next? Who wants to go next? Colleen. Okay. Here we go. I'm an NFL bad boy from Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Greg Rosalie. That just enjoyed my first Pro Bowl season. I set franchise records, my rookie year, and melted hearts across this beautiful country.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I have hair like a god And my grandfather wanted me to be named Beowulf After an old English poem about a hero from Sweden Who travels to Denmark and kills man-eating monsters And later in life Confronts and kills a fire-breathing dragon But dies in the effort I remember that one from ninth grade
Starting point is 00:39:15 My current team was always my one seed And unlike less need I certainly know how to change attire Oh After spending an off-season on an old prison bus. I often find myself in a competition. Whoa. But I'm still number one in your wife's heart.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I like rock and roll, throwing dimes, catching up on my Hunter Thompson collection. Jock straps and lava lamps keep me going strong into my sixth NFL season on my fourth team. I can go one more little bit here. I like that none of us will get it at this point, but Okay. Maybe I'm wrong. Sixth NFL season, four teams.
Starting point is 00:40:05 The ladies love him. Okay. He is from Mississippi. Number one in your wife's heart. That one is. Yeah, that's, do you want to give us the last hand? Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Okay. I'm going to write mine now and just see. I like denim and patches. aviators and bandanas. Oh. Oh. I'm totally lost. I actually still don't really know, but I have a guest.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Do you want to? Oh, wait. I, uh, hold on. What, how many teams did you say? Four. Oh, I think I know it is. That's still the number one in your wife's heart is a weird one to me, but. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Let's see. Who am I? We all are thrown up. I got Gardner Minshu. Greg has Gardner Minchu. Sessler. Oh, I thought it was a defensive player. But you had me stumped until that.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I thought it was for some reason. Is that it? I am the jockstrap king. I am Uncle Rio. I am Gardner Minchu. I don't know. Do you think that the typical wife longs for Gardner Minchew versus? I think only because it's probably because I have a text chain with some people that you probably, you all know.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Okay. Who love. And they fire into it. Loves That's on the ground reporting though That's what we want Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:30 Uh huh I mean I guess he's Conventionally attractive I never put that together Oh yeah She's like Sometimes it's just the personality though You know
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah Oh I need to find out who's saying this Yeah And also The way he carries himself With a lot of confidence Like I can understand That absolutely
Starting point is 00:41:47 The personality and the overall Minshuesque Energy There's a great relationship With his dad Like that kind of stuff It's like Oh he's sweet too
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah That was good That was a good one. That was great. Pellian, you're on fire. Excellent. All right, Greg, you are up next. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Play the music. I wish I got more. I don't need your pet. I was featured. I was featured on the Netflix series, QB1 Beyond the Lights. I changed my nickname in college. because it was problematic. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Dixie chicks. The owner of the team that drafted me once called me a superhero. I've started 17 games at my position since high school. In my first three starts, I had four rushing touchdowns setting an NFL record. I don't want to give you the next one. I'll give it away.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Well, I'm stumped. I don't know who you guys are. Okay. How you doing, Mark? The 17 starts threw me way off course. Since high school? Okay, I'll give you one more then, which is I was a top five pick in the NFL draft. Oh Top five pick 17 high school starts 17
Starting point is 00:43:31 games at his position since ice 17 games at his position only interesting maybe I made it too hard I like that you weren't going to give us the last one
Starting point is 00:43:47 he's only played so he's not a quarterback but he was on the quarterback He was on the Netflix series I don't even know that show I don't know I missed that one QB1 Beyond the Lights is
Starting point is 00:44:01 like a deep Greg cut He changed his nickname in college This is because it was problematic For me that was Can you give us the nickname Maybe that was a hit? No
Starting point is 00:44:11 Oh I shouldn't have even answered you What I'm looking back 17 total starts Or 17 starts at the position He was 17 games at his his position.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And did he play different positions? What is this? Now it's questions. 21 questions. Yeah. Truth or dare? I said what I said. That's not truth or dare.
Starting point is 00:44:41 All right. Go ahead. All right. Let's look around the room. Mark has crossed out Marcus, Mariotta and Julian Edelman. It's not Edelman, but I thought it was maybe Mariotta until the 17 starts off the,
Starting point is 00:44:51 wasn't he on the other quarterback? I'm totally stuck. You got me. Were they successful in the NFL? I wish I, at his position seems to really have thrown you. He didn't actually change positions. Did you write anything?
Starting point is 00:45:04 No, I just wrote down the hints thinking it would help. All right. I will get, should I give you the nickname? Yeah. At least, but it, the nickname was AR 15.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Oh. I mean. It is Anthony. It is Anthony Richardson. Oh. Oh. Oh. We talked about Spencer.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Spencer Radler was on that show too and it hurt his drafts like also on that show. That's, we should get darted for that. Anthony Richards. Yeah. 15. That's all there, Greg. That's a good one. That's a good job by you, Greg.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yeah. Should have had that. The superhero thing. That's what Erce said that, right? Erce said that. Damn it. All right. Let's take a break and we'll go around one more time.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Stumped us. what's up everybody daniel jeremiah here and i'm bucky brooks on move the sticks we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters every week we study the tape talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else is the kind of conversation that connects the dots from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow we break down the draft analyze matchups and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a diehard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
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Starting point is 00:48:11 Mark, you're up. Okay. Have your board? Yes, here is my, here are my concerts. You could hold on to your board. board and pen your marker okay
Starting point is 00:48:20 drums please no drums it's pets if I have that the size of maybe I'm a controversial figure lodged in the American football conference I'm so controversial
Starting point is 00:48:35 that some like to act as if I'm not even part of the league to make themselves feel better about their worldview which says more about them than me when I'm not on the football field I am involved with my music.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And when I enjoy lunch, I like to have a glass of milk with freshly baked bread. Who the f*** wouldn't? Bread is underrated. I have an unusual name that small-minded types make fun of
Starting point is 00:49:03 because it's somewhat androgynous and, in fact, used liberally by groups of young girls. Oh, great. I have a family line that dates back to the early 16th century. When I was a child, A relative gave me this write-up about my lineage, which reads,
Starting point is 00:49:22 We are typically hairy-chested and live in houses and farms with people. We undertake a range of domestic and agricultural chores on the understanding that we get free board and lodging. Some people complain that I dominate the football field in a way that makes it tough to focus on the actual game. There's one more clue. I could use it. Miles Garrett steps all over me. But he believes in me. What?
Starting point is 00:49:55 Controversial figure. Oh, okay. I guess you kind of gave it. What? I would bet that Greg hasn't. a name that girls use now thinking back to all the clues
Starting point is 00:50:24 it's amazing I don't know I'll guess first of this week so I really don't know first I thought it was like Deshawn but no and then Mason Rudolph but he was batched in the helmet
Starting point is 00:50:42 with a helmet by Miles Garrett right Taylor Heineke? No. I mean, you had it, Dan. It is Mason Rudolph, I believe.
Starting point is 00:50:51 No? It's not? No. I don't have, I wrote down to Sean Watson for us. It is red and milk. Never discounted Greg's utter confidence in himself. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:02 I thought you had it. Here it is. It's Brownie the elf. Oh, damn. That's all right. The brownies, girls.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Controversial figure. I like that. Oh, I thought it was like a trendy thing on TikTok like girls were calling guys. No, I mean. Mark, how would any of us ever guess that? No, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The reason if you think about it, like a lot, one of the people, they had that done polls where people, a lot of brown skins don't like that midfield giant elf. And it does on television, depending on how the browns are dressed, they get a little lost in the weeds visually. But he believes in me.
Starting point is 00:51:37 No, I wish I, I, I think he led us in a beautiful direction. The lineage was hilarious. That was, that was, good. For some reason, then I was like, all right, it must be Mason Rudolph. Bread and milk. That's the true thing about them, according to what more research. That's amazing. Yeah, that is amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:55 All right, who's up? I can't tap that. Okay. Big Funk. Here we go. I'm both the... Board, please. What? Board please. Oh, God. Jeez. You're so needy. Okay. Here we go. Again, take two. All right. Are you ready? I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to go. I'm going.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Going to slap you. All right, go ahead. You're good. I'm both the villain and the hero, the sinner, and saint. I will dictate your future whether you like it or not. I'm tied to not one, but all. I'm everywhere and nowhere. And once I bestow the fruits of my labor, they will be etched in stone for the rest of time.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Whoa. Now it's my turn. My time. I'm the darling. I call the shots. I do the interviews. I get the shine. It's about me.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Okay. I operate in the shadows with a deep network of intelligence. I have the answers. You only have questions. But soon my information will be revealed and I will again retreat to my bunker of silence. Oh, yeah. A seemingly endless array of combinations is my wheelhouse.
Starting point is 00:53:15 only Cynthia Freeland likes algorithms more than me and if you tell my secrets before I'm ready to share the wrath of the Almighty will take you swiftly and the rapture will begin. Who am I? Wow. That was well written, Colleen. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I'm going to go with Howie Roseman. No. No? I went NFL schedule makers. Okay. That is. that that's close enough. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Who did you have? I went with the Pell Razor. I am Mike North, the EP of broadcast planning. The Pell Razor. Howie Roseman. I'm going to file an official complaint and tell me that none of it, like any of that wasn't through for the Pell Razors.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Now that I'm listening, now going through my head, yes, thing does connect technically. It's about me. Hellraiser doesn't disappear into the shadows. I feel he's constantly with us. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's fun. That's a fun one. Mike North. I love Mike North. Mike North season so much. It's Mike North season. He's going to get a text like, hey, he's going to be on Sirius XM. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:35 What? I believe people in that office listen to this show. Well, shout out Mike North. I've mentioned many times that they were basically right around the corner when I had a desk at the NFL offices and in business development. And then this all yarn saw them over the years. And I believe they are fans of around the NFL. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:54 We have one more. Okay. And it will be from Greg. Okay. All right. My career started much like Mark Sessler by writing a letter to a famous NFL figure. Interesting. This NFL figure was Ron Wolf.
Starting point is 00:55:18 A recent video counted the number of times I said the word buddy during the NFL draft. I said it 22 times. Buddy. I currently have a lot of dip on my chip, including the making of a social video right before the draft, arguably mocking our team's fans that were up in arms over a silly story. A lot of dip. A lot of dip. Is that an expression?
Starting point is 00:56:03 I helped to acquire every member of my franchise's only title except for four. one of those four players was Brandon Mebain. That's stupid. I hate you, Greg. Just the three. Should I leave it there? I have a yes.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Okay, I think you've got it. The last one's probably going to give it away. That actually is not what gave it away, but I don't even know if I'm right. Okay, my last two, just for the hell of it. Mark does have it right is that I'm famous for a shirtless picture. Yes, there we go.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And that I quietly pushed out the man this off season most associated with my success. Ah, okay. So I had it wrong, actually. I had less need. I thought maybe that Elliot Wolfe wrote Ron Wolf a letter at first, but I crossed that out. I thought Chris Ballard was spicy during the draft. Trent Balke had that thing happen to him. But John Schneider.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, Schneider. Oh, that's good. That's real good. A lot of dip on the chip. A lot of the tip. What was the silly Seahawks story, though? So everyone was upset. that the new coach took down pictures in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:57:17 This is like a, this is an off-season trope, by the way, that new coaches do this and then the fans get upset. Supposedly, they had taken down a lot of the pictures in certain parts of the hallways of the Seahawks. So then Schneider and Mike McDonald taped multiple social clips like in front of various pictures
Starting point is 00:57:34 saying how they were excited for the draft. Yikes. That wasn't a fun move. I liked it. Dip on my chip is real great. I'm just noticing kind of like we're noticing with Chris Ballard
Starting point is 00:57:46 certain things there's a difference this Schneider it's kind of like he's been almost like a vibe like he's been in this middle management position
Starting point is 00:57:56 not that he has been but as if the boss that he's always been waiting to leave is gone and now he's running the show a lot of dip on. I know that that's happening
Starting point is 00:58:05 in our newsroom at times sure I'm pretty I don't want to say I'm pretty sure but who knows but I think less need is a dip guy, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:12 So that's where I was... I was thinking about a dip. Yeah, same. No, I was thinking more like the phrase, you know, there's a lot of dip on your chip. You're like Dick Clark over here. You got it.
Starting point is 00:58:25 You got it. You have too much dip on your chip means that being lost and something can affect other parts of your life. I've never heard this phrase before. The phrase uses hurt to encourage you, but not to rule you. What the...
Starting point is 00:58:39 I think of it also sometimes, like, to TikTok. For instance, like Baker Mayfield would strike me as a person that sometimes, even on the field, a little too much dip for his chip. He almost trying to be a little too much extra. And maybe it's going to come back to that. See, I'm a heavy dipper. So I don't know. Like, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I feel like there's a lot of, like, in you end. There's an old Texan saying that I know from my family now. Too much sugar for a dime. Huh? I like that. I don't know what it means, but. Too much sugar for a dime. time is like it's not worth it's not worth the trouble the other one the other phrase can only be post chips and salsa and i was trying to how how long have chips and salsa been around does
Starting point is 00:59:20 anyone know i don't know 54 years show should have ended about five minutes the advent of time uh chips and dip 1992 that's when it started and uh yeah he he came up through that ron wolf packers front office back in the day john schneider very nice very nice all right uh that is Is it? Elliot Wolf writing Ron Wolf a letter. I thought I might have been how that relationship again.
Starting point is 00:59:47 But it's his... Well, I think it began much earlier. All right, let's take a break. It'll close up. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you
Starting point is 00:59:59 inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week, we study the tape, talk to decision makers,
Starting point is 01:00:11 and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die-hard fan
Starting point is 01:00:33 or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you don't miss it listen to the move the six podcast on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hey this matt jones i'm drew franklin and this is nfl cover zero we're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different did you see the colts pretzel that was my other big takeaway from that what was that oh my we think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining.
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Starting point is 01:02:14 Very nice. Very nice, Colleen. We are wrapping things up. By the way, big soccer weekend coming up. Oh, boy. Shalyn Patel, my buddy, owner, impossibly of West Bram. Big, big home and home with South Hampton. I actually reached out to Johnny Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh, yeah? You're familiar with his work, right? Yes. uh to kind of explain to me the what's what's at stake this weekend for west brougham the the team the footy team of around the NFL anyway westbron plays south hampton and a home and home winner of that on aggregate advances to play winner of norwich city and leads winner of that is promoted to the premium league premier premier excuse me jesus christ the premium it is the premium league it's not totally wrong and it's premier league premier yeah
Starting point is 01:03:08 the premium premier league and john never too late for a rebrand for them yeah south southampton and leeds got relegated from premier last season so this is huge in fact chalyn had told me if they do jump up to the premier league there might be a private jet involved and a trip to celebrate for you no like for the group oh when does that happened during the summer of Ghanie? Yeah. This is why I keep my schedule open. I'd have to go
Starting point is 01:03:44 back and check the wording to see if it like involves Mark, for instance, but I think it was like a collective. He was just like, yeah, Greg, you know, Colleen, all the guys. Dan, Greg, all the guy. Please clarify, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And I do the big, speaking of Big Funk, Big Funk is actually kind of our source. He really knows, you know, you're a big fan of that, the European. Oh, I love it. The premium League. I love Premier League. So below the Premier League, it's called the EFL Championship, English Football League Championship.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Below that, you have leagues two and one, and then below that is like the national side. It's a pyramid pretty much the way it constructs. That's why sometimes online you'll see, you know, ninth tier side, whatever played against League two side, whoever, such and such. So it's a big
Starting point is 01:04:32 deal. Because when you get promoted up... This explanation would be so much better with your theme song underneath it, by the way. I mean, everything in life would be. Okay, all right, fair enough. I feel... All right, start over. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So it's an inverted pyramid. Yeah, pretty much. So the top of the top is the primary league. Wait a minute. It's just a pyramid. It's just a regular pyramid. Inverted. Big phone.
Starting point is 01:04:58 It's a pyramid. All the leagues. Woo. Okay, go ahead. All right. So the way it works is you want to get promoted up because if you get promoted up, you get TV money, you know, you get sponsorship money. You get private jets. You get private jets. And the opposite happens when you get relegated. So if you get bumped down a league, you lose players, you lose out on lots of revenue. And sometimes Zach and leave teams in financial ruin. So it's a really big deal. These guys get promoted because just because you make it one year doesn't guarantee you'll make it the next year. Last year, Coventry made it with Luton. Luton got promoted. Coventry ended up eighth this year. And so. You can make it really close and then be stuck in that league
Starting point is 01:05:40 for a decade or decades. And what's the last time that West Brom has been in the Premier League? I think it's been a little under 10 years. I don't remember exactly. For instance, second place side, Ipwich, which finished below Lester. They're automatically promoted. It's the first time in 20 years they've been promoted.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And I think they're called the Tractor Boys for the Tractors, but they're getting promoted up. So it's a big deal. All right. That's a great rundown. Thank you very much. You betcha. I think he's up West Brum. Up West Brum. I'm about that.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I mean, your friend is, the baggies. Your friend was suggested coming over your house at 6.15 in the morning or something to watch this. I'm down. I'm done. If anybody wanted to come over to watch it, I would not turn the door. Your friend is about to get very, very, sounds wealthy to begin with the whole contingent. I mean, he owns.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Or even worth here. You're basically an owner, Dan. How does it feel? I'm the friend of a rich person that doesn't really help you, actually. Well, does if he sends his jet. that's true but if you were in need nice experience
Starting point is 01:06:39 nice little PJ action what do you mean like come to him with my handout that's not my style well that's not I don't come with my hand out but if you were in dire need he could help me
Starting point is 01:06:50 resources to help you but you would fly on the private jet oh yeah yeah you would too absolutely yes what if they gave me a list
Starting point is 01:06:59 of you know seven people can go on the jet oh my god that would be Dan's dream to pick the seven I'd definitely hold interviews. It would become a full reality show. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:10 It would take care of a lot of summer programming for the podcast. It would be good. All right. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Go baggies. Let's do this thing. And we'll be back on Monday with more football goodness. And yes, I believe we'll talk about the schedule at some point as well.
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