NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Jaguars-Saints Week 7 TNF Recap

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Hero Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Yahoo NFL Writer Charles McDonald to recap the Week 7 Thursday Night Football matchup between the Jaguars and the Saints. We break down the Jaguars' strong performance and take a look at the disappointing, slow start by Carr and the Saints.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Carr to the end zone. It's Thomas reaching forth. Is he out of bounds or in-bounce? Touchdown is he atoll? Lawrence, Myers. That's caught on the run. Christian Kirk.

Inside the 20, he goes. And Christian Kirk kicks the ball all the way to, about the one-yard line. To the end of all the fingertips of Moreau could not hold in. Oh, Foster Moreau dropped what could have been the game tying touchdown. Or who knows, maybe the Saints would have gone for two. They threw a fade on fourth down in the red zone. That didn't work either.

the Jaguars escape 31 to 24 in a game that was, you know, not as entertaining as that score would say, but more entertaining than we thought it was going to be about halfway through when it looked like the Jaguars were going to run away with this. I'm Greg Rosenthal, wrapping up TNF with Charles McDonald from Yahoo. You helped us out a year ago, Charles. He's the host of the exempt list podcast, doing good. stuff over at Yahoo Sports. Thanks for joining, Charles. Glad we got a good one for you. Yeah, I was a little worried when the, as this game was going on in the first half, but

luckily, the Jaguars kind of, you know, did what they've done all year and mess around in the second half and let the other team get back into it. But they were blessed by the grace of God, really, to have Foster Monroe drop that touchdown at the end of the game and give them the win. But man, that was a really, really sloppy game. Like you said, the final score does not, it was not an indicator of how competitive or close that actually was. Right. There's so much. And I do think this tends to happen on TNF games. I used to think it was just something people complained about on Thursday nights because like half of these early, you know, slate games on Sundays. They're just, they're ugly too. But now I really do think there is something to it, not having

that time to get ready and to recover your body and everything that goes along with it. So this was an ugly game, but it ended up being entertaining. And I'm trying to check myself because, you know, I went to school in New Orleans. I follow the Saints team closely. And they feel like the main characters to be in this game, the ups and the downs and they're the home team. And yeah, I will start with the Jaguars here because they are five and two. And they've made. And they've managed to get through a tricky part of this schedule where they were in London for two games. They come back. They have a division game and then a short week on the road in New Orleans. They get to five and two. And you said it, Charles, every week they come out and their opening

script is godlike. I mean, Press Taylor, who's calling plays for them now, and Doug Peterson helps put together the plan and Trevor Lawrence. They come out every week. The first couple of drives are awesome it happened again tonight they put a touchdown up early uh they get another touchdown early second quarter it's 14 to 3 and then it just gets stagnant the rest of the game and i can't really put it on Trevor Lawrence who's playing out there with with an injured knee although he looked good running the ball like what is it that you're seeing with his offense this year and then certainly in in this game where it's like they seem to start off well and then they can't quite hit the levels that they were hitting at the end of last year.

Well, I think one thing that was big for them in this game, at least, was the absence of Zay Jones. I'm going to say Zay Flowers. Wrong Zay. But they kind of found themselves in a situation today where Jamal Agnew was taking real deal wide receiver reps for them when he's more of a gadget return guy. You know, I feel like in the best use of Jamal Agnew for an NFL offense,

you're probably looking at a guy who's taking screens, maybe a reverse or a jet sweep every once in a while. But where they got to trouble was, you know, having him run routes that you would expect Calvin Ridley be making or Zay Jones be making or Christian Kirk be making. And for some reason, he kind of kept getting funneled the ball. Like he had six targets in the first half alone and they tried to get him the ball in another reverse that didn't really work out in their favor. So I think they're just kind of stuck when the Ridley to Lawrence connection isn't working, right? It wasn't working. It wasn't working today at all. He got six targets.

Calvin Ridley had four. I don't think he had any in the first half. He only had one catch, five yards. It's been a very strange Ridley season where it's either he's the game changer or he's kind of taken away from the offense. And that's what I felt like tonight on a big call that they dialed. You're on a big drive when it was tied, I believe, or they're trying to put the game away. They go three straight plays to Ridley. none of them work.

They end up getting the ball back and getting the go-ahead touchdown. But it's been uneven throwing it to Ridley. Yeah, I think when you look at the whole offense, it's really, they're kind of incomplete. When you look at the sum of their talent, I think having Trevor Lawrence, it is a huge blessing for the Jaguars.

We even saw that tonight coming off of a knee injury. He still picked up a handful of clutch first downs on his own when things weren't open downfield. So he's kind of gotten to a place in his career, I think, where he can elevate the talent around him. And luckily, they play, you know, the NFC South and the AFC South this year. So that should be a good amount of wins for them. But I think when you look at where they're trying to be, which is at the top of the AFC, they're not quite there yet, like with the bills or the dolphins of the chief. But they're coming.

You know, I think they're another offseason in the way. But they're also stacking wins as they go. And so one of the things I've tried to learn over the years is like, man, October, these teams, they're not really who they're going to be when it matters. They'll fool you one way or another. And the key is, do you have the pieces that are there? Are you kind of stacking wins and you're in a good position along the way? And they've done it. They start out one and two.

They're up to five and two. No one in the AFC has more wins than they do as we go to sleep tonight. They got Pittsburgh next week, and then they have a buy week. So a nice little stretch here where they have a lot of off days. And as you mentioned, the schedule is not bad at all down the stretch. So they're in good position, and we can get to their defense later, but there's some things about their defense I like. And ultimately, like, they're improving enough on offense,

and Lawrence looks good this year that I'm not too worried. But I got to get to the scenes because the same, this whole game. Yeah, yeah. Well, let's work backwards, actually, at the end, because the Saints offense came alive in the fourth quarter. The Alvin Kamara offense, which is like what we can call the Saints, he had 29 touches total, 153 yards from scrimmage total, 62 are on the ground on 17 carries. 12 catches for 91. I mean, everything is checked down, check down, everything's going to Camara. He's not really making plays on the second level, but he's good at making that first guy miss.

It was a very frustrating night for Derek cards, a frustrating night for Saints fans who are booing the hell out of him early. He's yelling at half of his teammates during the game. Olave for stopping short on a route. Camara for chained in his route up once. He's checking the ball down before even seeming to go through his reads. And then you look up at the end of the game, and here they are, like, making a fourth quarter comeback.

A Foster Morrow drop away from tying this thing at like 31 if they go for the extra point. And I know Dennis Allen, he's gutless. He would have definitely gone for the extra point. Like, what do you make of this Saints team after spending your night with him? Well, that was an open-ended question, but I'm just frustrated watching it. The petty Falcons fan and me, I got a nice kick out of that, to be honest with you, because they look terrible for the vast majority of the game, right?

And honestly, for how decimated their offensive line was, I thought the protection maybe could have been a little bit worse. It's like there were times when Josh Allen and Andrus Pete, you know, had their quote-unquote battles where Josh Allen would run straight past them or they had like protection mix mixes ups in the middle where, you know, the guys coming running straight through the middle of the line of scrimmage. But it's just it's just so constipated. Like they don't really have anything to get. It's the best way that I can describe it, right? It's a word word for it. Because Derek Carr, the most explosive playmaker they have, Priscilla Lave, Derek Carr has no.

rapport with him right now. And, you know, Alave dropped the pass today, too, as well. So you look at that, the decline of Michael Thomas to where he's at right now, it kind of turns into an offense where all you have is Alvin Kamara and trying to spam the ball to him. So is Alvin Kamara going to catch 100 passes this year? I don't really think that that's a great style of offense for them. But then they come back. And you have, when you got to have it, they run down the field 53 yards, three players, score a touchdown. I'm like, Where is that? Where has that been in all game?

Because it's, I don't, I don't think these players are as bad as maybe their production has been, but it was just a mess tonight. No, I think if you put Camara or even Michael Thomas on a more functional offense, they would look better. Camara, yeah, he has 23 catches going into this game. So he now has 35 on the season in four games. That's crazy. That's like a, that's, if he was playing 17 games, that's like a pace for 150.

And he's not the same dude he used to be in terms of making people miss at the second level. And so some of those, I've said it on this show, some of those plays that used to be like 21 yards are like eight now or 10. But they wore the Jags down. I think part of that, a big part of that was just it's a short week. And they ended up running 87 plays. The Jags could not stay on the field in the second half. They decided not to go for it on a fourth down. The Saints had a really long drive that then didn't score,

and then they had a pick six, and then they had another long drive. So they just had the ball forever. And I think that's part of the reason why you saw the Saints look so good at the end of the game was the Jaguars defense was just worn out. But you're right on Alave, because there's frustration there. They threw the ball to him 15 times tonight for 57 yards. So that's under four yards per attempt when you're targeting Alave,

nothing over 14 yards there was frustration there's drops and then especially early in the game there was just straight up misses by by derrick carr so he's combining to me like a guy who plays it very safe kind of checking down before he even looks down the field that's why i love Thursday nights you can watch the prime vision and kind of see the field and he he's just hitting that camera you know throw in the flat before he even takes any time but when he is trying to go deeper down the field that just seems like like things are off. So it's a lot of the same just kind of drop back and throw it, not a lot of creativity.

Like Saints fans are done with Pete Carmichael, and they're wondering if Derek Carr is better than Andy Dalton was a year ago. Yeah. One of the more interesting parts of the game to me was, you know, you said they had 87 plays. Like they had to use all of those plays to get, you know, down the field because as bad as they were on third down, because there were so many plays where Derek Carr, like,

they'll be third and eight, and he's throwing short as sticks, third and six he's throwing short of the sticks and then they end up four and six on fourth down because I think in the second half they were like well screw it we got to start going for it even if derrick's not going to you know give us a chance down the field we still have 41 in the backfield and we can spam that so it just you went three of 18 by the way on third down that was until they got that third one that was the most third down attempts without a third conversion in four years so it's pretty rare that a team does that yeah it just the best way i can put it is offense looked very very hard for the saints tonight they there's just no easy buttons there's no outlets and yeah

hopefully that can uh improve for for them as the offensive line gets healthy and maybe trevor penny can improve and start to look like the first round pick that they drafted him to be but they just kind of seem to be in a bit of a talent deficit right now it's it's top heavy you still have your stars at the top but i think what we see as they've had to deal with the effects of kicking all the breeze money down the road and kicking all those contracts down the road is you start to lose like the middle class of your roster. So when an Alante Taylor gets hurt, maybe you don't have someone to replace him.

When your offensive line gets hurt, you've probably got someone cheaper than what you had in the past as depth. So that's where you start to see it because I think it's interesting when people say, oh, the cap's not real, cap's not real. And for the most part, like, yeah, you can do your tricks to mess around with it. but when you put yourself into a situation like the Saints, it's just a slow bleed of talent over year after year after year for year. And I looked it up during the game today.

They are projected to have negative $80 million in cab space next year. So they get best around with that. Yeah. To a decent degree. But here's some guaranteed money that they have next year. I know it's a little early to be talking like next year for Saints, but Derek Carr, Ramcheck, you're loving this as a Falcons fan. want to get to your reaction too about how the Saints fans are are booing the hell out of the

scene but derrick car ramcheck cam jordan camara tasem hill james they all have money that's going to be i think 10 million dollars plus into next year and yeah they can keep spreading it out but that's money that's going to be on their cap and and the point is like these are all declining players you know they're not players that are on the upswing for the most part so now you're you're kind of tied into this core for at least a couple more years that aren't necessarily getting better. The whole point is to be maxing out this year to get to nine or ten wins to get Dennis Allen and Mickey Loomis another two years at this gig. I mean, to me, that's been the whole point of this same season. And I think it's why the fans are especially so frustrated. How are you

feeling watching them boo the hell out of the Saints? Like in the first half the game was just like seven to three and they're booing the checkdowns to derrick car like they're three and three they're tied for are they tied for first or the buck the bucks are three and two the bucks are first yeah they're basically they're they're three and three though they're trying to get in the first place this week and their fans are booing the hell out of them because they're kind of just sick of watching this offense like how does that make you feel as a saint's amazing it's just it's what like these people deserve to have i don't know that that's the best that's the best way that I can put it.

I mean, y'all not in much of a better situation right now. I can't get too ahead of myself because like this, this rivalry does get petty enough where someone will come back and pull this and say something to me about it if the Falcons offense doesn't pick it up. But for now, I mean, watching Derek Carr get booed as a Saints quarterback, it's like everything I dreamed of this offseason. It's what I need. And I think what's crazy is I found myself looking at.

you know his contract to see if they could get out of it after the offseason yeah they kind of can they kind of can yeah they'll they'll eat they can and they will if if it goes downhill uh but they'll eat half of it we've we've kind of well they they eat i think plus 10 million or something and they would do that if if that's what they feel like the best move is we'll see how the rest of this season goes the the i think the interesting thing for where saints fans are where the organization is is every year basically since Drew Breeze has started to dwindle down through his retirement through this year you're all in just based on how your roster is set up like you you kind of have to functionally be all in so you're starting to see diminishing returns on

what being all in every single year starts to look like and now you're you're kind of at a spot where oh man our some of our core players are getting older we just signed derrick Carr and he doesn't look like he's a great fit here and now we're just kind of waving around in no man's land again so like you said their goal should be to get 10 wins because job security matters if you are dennis allen and mickey loomis but i don't really see where this season is supposed to take them okay um we're going to take a a quick break but i do have a couple of points on what you just said uh with job security coming up after the break Okay, I do want to mention here how this was a revenge game for Doug Peterson.

And I love the guys at the Saints Twitter podcast. I'm sure they are ranting tonight. They have one of the best team-specific podcasts out there. You guys can check it out. And one of their things that always cracks me up is they're so pissed that Doug Peterson only got a Zoom interview when they hired Dennis Allen. that like they didn't want to fly that you know Doug Peterson who had won a Super Bowl with the Eagles down to New Orleans

they're just got to cheap out we're going to we're going to interview you on Zoom because we know we got this guy in-house Dennis Allen who's now 18 and 42 as a head coach in the NFL and we kind of know we're going to hire him and so these are kind of sham interviews we're going to do Eric Bien to me like that too and we're not really going to try to get creative on offense. We're going to keep Pete Carmichael, who, you know, there were some whispers, reports didn't even want the O.C. job because he was kind of, he was kind of cool with just kind of being, you know, in the background.

And I'm not saying that to like say, oh, let's just mock them. They made a bad choice. I'm saying it to point out what you talked about, which is like, I think they did that because Dennis Allen was the guy they knew that wasn't going to rock the boat. And I do think there is something about this organization where Gail Benson's there, who took over for her late husband and Mickey Loomis is really running this show. He has about as much

power as anyone that's like not a not a head coach. Sean Payton's out the door and I think they just wanted to like keep it all in-house. They weren't hiring any new assistants from outside the building. It's all the same people. It's like all the same players. It's just like let's just keep this all together.

We don't want someone like Doug coming in here who's going to bring in his own people and who knows if it gets kind of sideways, like we're going to be out of a job. So it's this whole sort of culture that I think speaks to what even you were talking about with the roster getting stale. It's just like, let's just hold on to this as long as we can.

Like I don't think there's any aspirations to win the Super Bowl. It's like, let's get paid for like four or five more years if we can. And that's like I get it. Like I get the motivation to make that happen. But like I don't think long term success is going to happen when you make decisions like that. No. And at the time,

I kind of understood it because I do think where they were as far as like their roster construction and their cat space was kind of relevant for the hire they made. You know, I don't think it was quite an inspiring hierarchy because like you said, 18 and 42 record. It kind of speaks for itself after a while. But you're at a point where, excuse me, you can't really blow it up and rebuild through the contracts you have. So maybe you just say, uh, let's run it back to a degree.

And for Doug, that worked out great for you, man. Like, you got to, you fell into the lap of Trevor Lawrence. And now that gets to be your protege. It was much better that way. And that was at the point in the offseason, too. Doug Peterson was not sure to get a job. I forget now off the top of my head who Jacksonville's first pick was. But it wasn't Doug Peterson.

Was that the Byron Leftwich here? Was that it? Or maybe. No, no. I think that was here after. He didn't want it. It was the same iron cycle as Alan. But they ended up with the better coach with Doug Peterson.

And thank you. This is why I like the TNF recap. It's the only time we go this deep into one team. It's the only time I really feel like I have the space where my regular co-host, Mark and Dan, aren't just going to cut me off from making my three-minute rant on the Saints have just been trying to protect their jobs all these years with Dennis L.

It was Byron left, which I just looked it up. Memory did not fail. Yeah, they picked Doug over Byron, and then Byron got fired after this past season. Well, they made a good choice. Doug Peterson doing a good job. And then the last thing on the Saints is you mentioned how, yeah, they didn't protect Carr well tonight, maybe a little better than you would expect. They did have backups at their tackle position that, you know, they suddenly are very banged up there.

But that speaks to the weirdness that's going on there. Their first round pick Trevor Penning was their left tackle started the whole season until last week when an article goes up on New Orleans Football.com. I don't know how deep you got into this charles. I know. But I'm deep at the Saints to it. talking basically about how bad Trevor Penning's been with sources inside the organization and saying how he's messing up the run game and that he's going to be benched and that's how he learned that he was going to be benched and I'm fine with like them benching Trevor

Penning he's struggled but this is some Dennis Allen stuff where he did it back in Oakland and he's done it a little bit in New Orleans with when they were going to trade CD-Deuce where he started seeing all this stuff popping out in the media and he's just like kind of using the media to explain what he's going to do but it's like just tell the man

just tell the man you're bench right you don't need to like do some whole sourcing and bury him in the media so it's like I don't think players respect that and they're not stupid believe me if I'm talking about it they're talking about it well especially with the Trevor Penning thing

it's not like benching would not have been totally justified based on watching him play I don't know why you would have to you got like they got and then their left tackle got hurt and then their backup left tackle got hurt right right right the fifth string tackle what's going on they didn't start I know it's crazy that guy it kind of seems like they're just waving the white flag on that pick already which is kind of crazy but he really has been that bad I think it's it's it's also kind of an indictment on maybe even where they are like culturally that that they would rather go and just Pete and

cam irving as your tackles and even just try to have your first round tackle you know just give it a go so he was on the field when they like lined up uh i don't know if it was like seven on the line or something for that tasum hill touchdown at the end of the game you got you got your defensive tackle caled sanders in the back field you got Trevor petting over there as like a extra tight end i mean every time i watch the saints i can't believe i got to this place but i'm like give me more tasem hill man like they're off he's pretty good at what he does he's not worth he's not worth the money that he's got he's guaranteed like 13 million dollars next year by the way too so he's not going anywhere but it's like at least they got some juice when he's on the field

he's been pretty good this year as as someone who has been on the wrong end of a lot of tason hill runs as far as falco fans go i swear to god that tasem hill quarterback power run is like one of the most unstoppable plays in in football like when the goal line they can run if on first down and short yardage uh unfortunately you know it's not a play you can run every single down but as uh as a nice little change up it's become kind of a a crutch for their offense at times and maybe he was worth that that contract that they gave him a few years i don't think so but he's actually turning into like a decent tight end he went four for 50 tonight like you see him out there actually running some real routes because yeah yeah i'm watching the next gen stats

feed and like he he's lined up as a wide receiver i i don't know how many snaps just seem like quite a bit of snaps it's kind of crazy but it just goes to show like they're a wild they're a wild organization i love having them in the nfl because there's no other team that's trading multiple first round picks and trading up for trevor penny and trading multiple first round picks for chriselobvi they just do whatever the hell they want give this contract to taste them though they don't care it's fun it's definitely fun to watch because i i respected to a degree just the the never tank philosophy yeah we're not bottoming out we're going for it but it's just starting to deteriorate and i think this year is really one of the the heaviest times you can see oh wow this is kind of

going to be a multi-year rebuild for them to get back to where they want to be but like like your falcons and like the bucks this division is is pretty pretty lousy so everyone's got got hope and so the saints still have hope at three and four but i'm kind of glad they're three and four because they deserve to be three and four they don't deserve to be four and three let's finish by talking some positive uh about the jaguars maybe where we see them them going from here uh i've been really impressed this year with foyer aluicon he's the one who got the pick six here and darius williams who really struggled last year on the outside he came over from from the rams winning the super Bowl there where he was a great story really struggled a year ago and this year has been making

a lot of good plays on the football and I believe he's the one that tipped up that past that ended up being taken back in by a luicon and I'm just seeing a lot of players that are a little more comfortable in this Mike Caldwell scheme in their second year and they came into tonight leading the league and turnovers they forced one tonight they were without their best cornerback still look pretty good out there for the most part like just tell me what you've seen kind of what stands out with this defense this year uh the run defense is so good like they just pummel people up front i i thought one of the most impressive sequences that sequence that sequence that they had was uh when they got down to the goal line and they gave up the first down

it was like the 16 play drive where tason hill scored on the fourth down but they stuffed them on first and goal second and goal third and goal uh before they gave it up on fourth down That stuff is so impressive to me. And I think we just watch how they beat up on the Saints O line throughout the night. It's like, man, if they can just get something out of Trayvon Walker, because Josh Allen's here this year. If they can just get something out of Trayvon Walker, like that defense could really, really ascend.

Because they have the run defense, like you said, when Tyson Campbell gets back, I think that secondary is looking pretty good, especially with the development of Andre Sisko on the back end. You can just get another pass rusher to parrot that run defense and the development of linebackers, like, that defense is going to be just a pain when it gets to the playoffs. Yeah, and Trayvon Walker does contribute in the running game. He's a good run defender, and they're tough to push. They've actually gotten healthier.

I think Devon Hamilton, was he back? He's been back. He's a back or is coming back soon, yeah. And if they're somewhat balanced, they got to get their offense to improve. But this was one of those games where it was like, they were negative two in turnovers in the first half, and they went into halftime up 17.6, despite the Saints, I'm counting it now,

got seven possessions in the first half. And so, in the Jaguars only held them to six. So I look at that stuff. Then they hold them to a field goal. Then they get the pick six. So at that point in the game, we're into the fourth quarter now. The defense has already been on the field for nine or ten possessions.

They've actually scored more points with that pick six then they've given up. At that point, it's totally on the Jaguar's offense that the game isn't just over, over. And if the Jaguars' offense didn't go three plays, four plays, then first down and punt and downs, and then first down and punt in the second half, like this score would have been different,

and we would have been talking about the Jaguar, we wouldn't be looking at a 24 spot that New Orleans put up. So it's one of those things. You've got to watch the whole game to get the whole story. because to me, the Jaguars' offense, for the most part, let them down, you know, after that first quarter surge in the defense won them this game. Yeah, this was a defensive-led performance, for sure. I would find this performance a little concerning if I was a Jaguars fan because, like, you've

made it to the playoffs, you've had a signature moment by coming back from the Chargers and even playing well against the chief for the most part in that divisional game. So now you kind of won a little bit more. And to me, like a performance like that, when we're stuck in park for like two quarters at a time, that's a little concern. It's every game, though, this year. Right, I know. That was against the Bills. That was against the Colts last week, actually.

Even the Yes, the Falcons in the second half. They weren't really moving the ball. Even the Chiefs game, which they didn't win, but they were kind of stuck there the whole time. It's been consistent like this. It's a little concerned. But when they got the ball, I got to say, for some reason, I just was like, the Saints are going to mess this up one way or another. Like, even when it was tied, I was like, I don't know how the Saints are going to lose this, but they're going to lose it. And to the Jaguars credit, they get the ball back after punting it, 3.45 left after a terrible punt on the Saints 46.

Second play of that drive, Christian Kirk just made Honey Badger look slow. Kind of hurt my heart because I'm a big Honey Badger fan. Yeah, that was tough. I never seen Christian Kirk look so good. So give them some credit for their best two players on offense for the most part is Lawrence. ETN but Kirk's probably third right now and Kirk made a big time play there 44 yards to go win the game yeah yeah that was that was like a poor one out for honey badger moment because he got dusted and it was it was one of those moments where so where christian kirk you could see

the he was accelerating away and honey badger just kind of stay at the same speed and i was like oh no it ain't quite you know 2018 anymore but i think i think that's kind of where the saints are going to exist though for the next few years right for the jaguars are though because it's a young that's a young good roster that you can still add pieces too no and they'll have they'll have decisions to make josh allen is having a crazy good contract year so they might have to use the tag with him but calvin ridley's a free agent too so there's a lot coming up but they don't have to worry about that they got a chance to do things this year in this a fc they are the favorites in the afc south you're one of my favorites charles i appreciate you exemplist podcast

What's up? And you're still writing the four verts on Yahoo.com. You're still doing the good thing. One of my favorite columns out there and writing some other stuff during the week. Yeah, I'm going to Philly this week for the Dolphins Eagles game. Oh, dang. Really excited about that.

Route for the Eagles there. I locked them up. We do our locks of the week every week. It's a competition. I wanted to take the Jags. I set it, and then Lawrence's injury freaked me out. I didn't want to have to wait until. game time so I got off the jags so Eagles better come through with me what who you got in

that game for Eagles they just saw Julio oh okay that's Charles still still thinking not just about the Super Bowl but the following year when I was with you I was at I was in Philadelphia for some reason I like that Falcons team because I wanted them to get some redemption I think they had a chance to win the Super Bowl that next year people don't remember that it was so close and Matt Ryan sailed that Well, you know what we almost had that year. What? You know what we almost had that year was Falcon Saints' NFC title game because that was the Stefan Diggs catch that year, too.

One play away in each game from Falcon Saints' NFC title game, which is basically like World War III. Yeah, instead we got Brandon Graham StripSapp and my guy, Tom Brady, in the Super Bowl. Charles, great job again. Fun game, Jaguars win it, 3124. We will be back here on Sunday for the flagship. Recap show. In the meantime, be the call.

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