NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Justin Herbert Gets Paid; Going Deep with Rap Sheet

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

In a room filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal and Marc Sessler get caught up on news from around the league including Justin Herbert's new contract with the Chargers (09:49), Brock Purdy being ready for camp (20:10) and more. After the break, Ian Rapoport joins the show to talk about breaking the Saquon Barkley news (31:36), to tell you if he thinks this is a make or break season for Bill Belichick (48:42) and if any other coaches should be worried about their job if they have a slow start to the season (53:20). Note: Time codes approximate. NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast is not holding in at training camps. All right from the Chris Wesleying podcast studio. It is Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. Joined by the heroes, Greg Rosenthal, and Mark Sessler, Humpty. Humpty. Is it a Humpty, though?

It's the excitement of football being back. It's back. It's back. Actually, I don't want to start the show with sad news, Mark, but I do have to share some tragic news out of La Trobe, Pennsylvania. Sorry to hear that. Where I regret to inform everyone listening right now that. the two thousand twenty three pittsburg steelers died reporting to camp later than all thirty one other teams in the league it's over and then this is the data that is backed up year after year the

team that reports last finishes last Steelers fans you heard it from me first but i express no pleasure here it's over, come back next year, ready to go earlier than the rest of the group, not the last. I guess what surprises me is because not only during the run of this show, but throughout the course of our lives as football fans, the Steelers have always been a well-put-together organization. They draft well. They develop players well. They seem to know how to tackle a regular season, and especially under Mike Tomlin.

There is so much data that supports that the team that shows up last is essentially you're offed. Why would they be behind the ball? This is a Detroit Lions trick from the past. It's the first thing they teach you in analytics school. Day one, whoever shows up last, does worse. And it's a big loss for Mark, too, because he famously, this offseason predicted they were going to win 12 games. Ain't that the way, Mark?

You know what happened to teams I jumped on their bandwagon last year. It was essentially one death after the next. The Steelers just got ahead of it by falling behind. And I guess I should notice, I should note on the other end of things, the first team to report way back on July 19th, the New York football Jets. The Browns had the option to report the 19th. They chose to party a couple more days and report the 21st mark. I know that doesn't matter to you at all.

I think that the Hall of Fame game. I think that plays out correctly with what probably will happen to Cleveland Browns this season. It is quite a move by the Steelers. Like most of the league, the majority of the league, showed up to work on Tuesday, started practicing Wednesday. And the Steelers said, you know what, for all the extra days off we have and the lack of tackling and this and that that the CBA has built into, we just need another day. Yeah. Rest in power, Kings.

Around the NFL, we had a great app with Connor Orr on Tuesday. Team slogans. We're going to dig in deeper today with Rapsheet in studio. I was trying to think we had Rapsheet infamously, the Peacemaker episode from Santa Monica last summer. We've had him I think remotely

before. How many times it's been in the studio? I don't think he's ever been in the studio. I think maybe not this studio. I think so one. I don't think he's been in this studio. The Chris Wesleyan podcast. It's always been at combines, owners meetings, you know, outdoor type stuff. So we'll dig in with Ian

on a bunch of things, the running back, Seekwan Bar. We're asking about maybe a budding internal rivalry with the Pell Razor, who's, you know, making moves, whether Ian wants to admit it or not for the crown of top insider at NFL media. It's fair to say, Greg, I know you're on top of those things. Pell Razor. I know the golf buddies, but you know he wants it. It's been a trend. Ian notices it.

The Pell Razors profile, especially with the news drop on this show, has been rising. Yeah. I'll ask him about the news drop too because I'm sure Ian It's got to get under his skin All right Anything else Mark what's going on with your laptop

Yesterday you didn't have Any laptop at all Now for the listeners And check out the YouTube show You have a It's a silver glitter cover To your MacBook And then what appears to be

A black cat or kitten covering up the Apple We don't have a corporate relationship with Apple The NFL So that's that's smart and from a business standpoint, but kind of an insane laptop for a middle-aged man to have. I don't deny that.

I don't deny that. But, you know, I was in a pinch. I told you that my actual work dished-out laptop has died. Yes. And this- You led with that after our long break. Right. This profession matters to me.

Showing up to work and, you know, researching for the show and being capable matters to me. So in my downtime between our last episode and this, I did the requisite work to, to find new technology. But you chose to put that cat sticker on. You could have put any sticker on. But I do know that a cat in any of your IG stories, followers will know this.

People got to check mark out on Instagram. That a cat has entered your life that I think you have a loving relationship with it. So it's a big cat summer. Well, it's a bit of 180 because I spent four plus decades thinking the cats were total junk. and I kind of learned that's not true. I just, I mean, I thought we were on the same page with that. Everybody kind of knows here's another hot take.

And Eric, we need to work out something behind the glass. I had a hot take about the Dodgers yesterday. Let's come down with the cats. I mean, I don't think I'm riled up. I just think that my opinion has changed. They're not loving creepy. Am I running up and down the hallway at work

telling people about cats? It's ignorance. It's just plain and simple ignorance. Like when you kind of rule out or judge any creed, species. Why would you need to judge any animal, Dan, or animals? That's what we do. We offer opinions and insight here around the NFL. That's trash.

Eric, you're a big-time Dodgers fan. It occurred to me after the show. I buried your favorite baseball team saying the 2020 World Series title was Fugazi because of the shortened season, the pandemic and all that. How do you feel about that? Do you think, because I think, for instance, you got 1988, the Kirk Gibson year, and then if you go to Dodger Stadium, you'll see right next to 88, 2020,

and I think there should be an asterisk or something next to it. I don't disagree completely with it. That's why I didn't really push back. I think though that season is odd. My defense on that is always, it was level playing ground across the league. Everybody had the same amount of games, same little bubble atmosphere in the playoffs.

And I know for a fact, if any other team would have won that 2020 year, they would have claimed it just as much as I do. Yes. As a Yankee fan, I probably have to. to say you're right. But I'm not running around toad in that one. I'm not like, oh, you remember 2020?

That was fun. I mean, it was fun. Yeah, don't get me wrong. I watched most of the games. I watched the playoffs. Right. But I'm not like, trust me. My wife bought me a shirt, has a shirt, big ring on it.

It says world series champions 2020. You weren't even on the earth when Kirk Gibson did his theatrical event. I was not. Okay. The brake lights and Chavez Ravine went off over the right field bleachers, all the fans that had left, thinking, Eck was going to close it out until he hung that slider. Greg, but I do, was it you that push back,

or you had stated that maybe the Bucks title was a little Fugasey? No, you said it. I didn't say that. That was Connor. Oh, Connor did. I thought the Bucks title was legit because they played the full season. I think they're all legit. They played what they could in many obvious ways.

It was harder for those group of men to achieve that than in any other year. Of course, the fan enjoyment, it wasn't the same at the time for the Dodgers because you couldn't be there you couldn't get the whole buildup of a whole regular season so they missed out on that

but I think diminishing those accomplishments are stupid Are you going to have a take at some point in today's episode you shot me down on having a cat take now I can't have a COVID take about sports You can have whatever take you have

Yeah but it's a better show if we don't agree He keeps dismissing my takes Well they're absurd All right That takes You're dismissing them We all were gone for a few weeks You know how they're always like

Oh you know Kobe Kobe always worked on one thing Every offseason He's like you got to add something to your game Or else you're falling behind And then this year during my off season I was like Disagree as much as possible with Dan's takes

That's got to be my new thing I'm trying to picture what the workout is. You're just watching old ATNs and stuff. And be like, wrong, wrong, wrong. His catalyms ridiculous. Doesn't he know my lovable Morris from childhood? I didn't, but maybe a nice feline. Let's do some news.

Chargers coming into this one just 42% on fourth down, but two or three today. The original voice of God. Herbert has time. All kinds of time. Rolling to his right to the end zone. And that passes caught touchdown. Chargers, Herbert to Keenan Allen, the captain with the connection. There he is the voice of the Chargers.

And yes, the former voice of God for the around the NFL podcast. Matt Money Smith with the call, Justin Herbert. Yes, he is different. He was different from the moment. He landed with the Chargers and was. came into the lineup under strange circumstances when poor tie rod taylor got an injection on some sore ribs that led to a pierce lung as i recall and the chargers are kind of forced to put in the rookie and then he entered the lineup immediately and became a star and cut to a few years later and the chargers get it done with herbert keeping him in the long term on a five year two hundred and sixty two and a half million dollar contract extension through twenty twenty nine it's just the latest domino know, Greg here with these quarterbacks. It was Lamar Jackson

before him, and it will be Joe Burrow, most likely after him, who will make just a little bit more money than Herbert did. It's kind of funny, Greg, in this era where, and we talk about, like, you were coming down hard on agents in the past

few months on this podcast. It's like, all this seems to be is you just have to move it a little bit past, and everyone does their job and everyone's happy. So I could tell you what the borough contract will be, it'll be a little bit more than this one in terms of guarantees and the ability to say he's the highest paid player

ever. Right now, Herbert is, congratulations to him and his whole fam. And Chargers fans, your team got the deal done. A cheap franchise historically pay out big for your QB. It's great to see if you like Justin Herbert and the Chargers in any way that the Chargers just did the thing that quality franchises do. It wasn't drawn out.

I think there's a few different things that are interesting about Herbert, but just on the money situation, he did accept probably less than he could have if he wanted to push it. And everyone has their different reasons for that. And I appreciate, I think I'm done with sort of judging players for what they wanted to do. When you look over the entire seven years, because it was an extension, his average is more like 42. The total fully guaranteed money at signing was like 133, which, you know, considerably less than Lamar and some of those. So it wasn't as good as Lamar's contract, really.

It's fine. There's a no trade clause in there, which gives him some leverage down the line. It gives the Chargers some flexibility. To me, it looks more like the Patrick Mahomes deal. It's seven years in total where it really gives the Chargers a lot of flexibility of how they want to move money around in the future and that he didn't push for everything to be up front. He basically said, this is enough.

And I'm going to be on this team a long time, and I'm not going to, like, push this to the end degree. I'm with you. Sorry. It's like the go, he's making a tail of cash. Hairball there. I don't know what's going on. It's time for his first analysis of the show. He waited for the moment.

He has a cough button. I mean, this happens, like, once every three shows. So I don't think it's anything new. It is such a manageable cap hit over this year and next, you know. And then you, then you, then they'll just readjust the money at some point and move it around again. And I think the Chargers, you looked at these, the Bengals and the Chargers

are both this a little bit of hesitation from the fan base like, can the Bengals get this done right? Can the Chargers under the Spanos family get this done right? These are not like the most cash rich franchises around. We know that. And the Chargers just went and did it. And they did it with no drama. And I think that

is a lot to do with Justin Herbert, who's a no drama type of guy. And it fits their organization perfectly. And Tom Telesco has talked in the past about having zero fear about making this deal happen because he was baked into the Colts front office for 15 years when they continually built around Peyton Manning in his deals. So this is similar to that. I think Tom Telesco, in the Chargers, there's an era of disappointment about how every season seems to end.

But you look at what he's done, what he's built, the quarterback he chose, the roster around him. And it's like if you remove some of the kind of bad vibes around the team coming off last season, there's no reason they can't be an aFC title type team the roster is strong all over the place I want to believe everybody wants to I want to it's tough though

I mean what did they blow in the playoffs what was that 27 nothing 27 nothing was their last game they played and Herbert has been so great in his three years of starter and yet the team is 25 and 24 overall since he took over as a start

it's like for me this is the right move to do for the chargers I love Herbert, just like everybody else. He's fun to watch. I would really like to see the organization now move forward. Yes, they did make the playoffs last year, but it was a horrific embarrassment for the organization, how it played out.

Let's see them make a run in the playoffs. Let's see them get to the divisional round or even the AFC title game because you do have the quarterback to do it. We always talk about it. We say the roster's there and we can point to bad luck and this and that. I think there's a lot of pressure on the Chargers. Maybe we'll come up later with Ian as well to make a run this year and show us that, yes, all this work building up to this, including now locking in Herbert has made you a Super Bowl contender.

Show it to us. Don't do it again. Don't do the same thing again. We're building this team up next summer as, oh, it's all there. It's time to run. It's time to go. The one thing I'd say, though, is last year, Herbert, like, one thing I love about him, we all on this show, I love watching him. But, like, he battled through so much pain and physical pain.

And, like, it's kind of forget about some of these injuries. It could barely move and run and throw. And it took in like a month plus or two months to kind of get that confidence back, I think, in his own body. And it's like he never complained. He never flinched. I mean, the dude is just everything you'd want in a quarterback. And it's like a fully healthy season from Justin Herbert can get to all these places we're talking about for the Chargers. We did QB rankings with Jordan Rodriguez, Mark.

And the hardest thing for me was Herbert versus Burrow. Yeah. And I still would take Herbert. I actually would take Herbert over everyone except Mahomes, like if I could just pick one. Even Josh Allen, because I just think you see it all. You see everything.

He's only been in the league three years. It's easy to forget that. Like his QB index, for instance, like year-end rankings, what was nine as a rookie, which is outrageous that you could think of him as a top ten rookie. I had him fourth in his second year. You had him fifth at the end of last year.

That's just a crazy. way to start your career, mentally, physically, everything. I think the offense will open up things for him. He leads all quarterbacks in history, in completions, touchdowns, yards through three seasons. I know it's a different generation and everything, but that's just wild to me. And if the Chargers somehow blow this, you drafted in a row, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Justin Herbert, with literally. no time in between, right?

Was there a season? No, because we always talk about the Green Bay Packers fans, like Chargers fans who had that quarterback. And I know it didn't happen for Breeze. He only ended up getting one year out of them. But the facts are you drafted Breeze Rivers, who I believe is a Hall of Famer, had at least five top five seasons.

I think Herbert's going to have even more in that in a row. Like, Bennett's on the organization, to your point, Dan, that you're not making Super Bowls. Yeah, to be clear, I'm not putting the heat on Herbert to be better. I think Herbert's a stud. and he did battle through a really nasty injury suffered early last season. Yeah, let's see what happens. And one little nugget.

I mean, I think that they recognized he was paired with the wrong offensive coordinator and Joe Lombardi a year ago. Kellyn Moore has spent all offseason. They know each other of their friends, and it's just been totally collaborative. And I like the whole idea of Justin Herbert being completely unleashed under Kellyn Moore versus what happened a year ago, where he led the league and passes to running backs. It's like there was a lot of Drew Breezes sort of checkdown and like late era Drew Breeze. it's like this is not that quarterback well he was hurt too same point yeah maybe they changed

the game plan as well i think in general i think it was not a fit delamore is good that offense in dallas well that's a great point mark there you go i wonder who is that yeah i think one of our uh draft columnists one last point before we move on um all this patrick mahomes we don't have to have discourse about how bad Patrick Mahomes's contract is every time it doesn't have to be a part of the conversation Patrick Mahomes agreed to that contract he's happy he's a champion

I've just watched on on the quarterback's Netflix show the estate that he's building with his wife in Kansas City he's doing beautiful they're going to rework the contract in time and it's everything's going to be we don't need to talk about it he's fine he didn't take a big L on the deal maybe it's team friendly

maybe that's helped Gregie build the champion around him. I'm just a little sick of that one. Do you disagree with that take as well? No, I kind of liked it when you were disagreeing with everything. Unfortunately, I think yeah, he can do what he wants. He's doing fine. It's mildly annoying like if you're Patrick Mahomes that, you know, like Jalen Brown makes more money than you, but that's just different sport. It's a totally different sport. They are very different sports. Like now in basketball is completely different than basketball. Here we go. If you're like a sixth man who can play,

a good 25 minutes a game like you're good on both ends you can make you make like 18 to 20 million dollars a year like very few NFL players can do that and that's just like you're coming off the bench I mean I feel the same way about baseball contracts some some just out of control why what's wrong with the baseball contracts compared I don't know half of them just just they're guaranteed you don't want the players to you don't want guaranteed money for the players you want to stay in the owner's pocket no that's not where I'm coming from half of them just sit you know sit around eating sunflower seeds I'm saying guaranteed money either goes in the owner's pocket or the players it's the salary cap yeah i think

if justin her if there was no salary cap just i ever big corporate interests of america that's what you're doing you think that's what i'm doing that's what this is about i don't i don't believe that's my angle brock purdy good news for the niners he's ready to go quote unquote according to john lynch um he had a elbow injury suffered in the playoffs led to surgery um the hope was that he ready at some point this summer. But he's cleared to practice. And with all the marathon discussions around Trey Lance, the former first round pick, Sam Darnold, who entered the fray this year, if things work out, Mark, how Kyle

Shanahan hopes, it will all be for naught because Purdy won't have any setbacks. And week one, he'll be on the field. Yeah, I mean, a couple months ago, I could have seen a reality where someone like Sam Darnold is starting the first or second game of the season. If Purdy weren't ready and if Trey Lance, I think, is still someone that if you're the Niners, one of the best things that could happen is you still play Trey Lance a bunch in the preseason. He looks great. Maybe you trade him.

But you also, I think behind door number two is like, I'm like pro Brock Purdy as much as anyone around. But like, we still need to learn and discover if he is that guy we saw from that incredible run at the end of last year, which is so improbable. Like, is he that player or like with an offseason of players diagnosing more of what Shanahan does, getting to know Brock Purdy Moore as an opponent on tape, like maybe that he brings him back down to life. And then you had Trey Lance. And it's like it still seems to me like a very muddled situation with a lot of questions. But we did get an answer.

And we say it throughout the off season. Like, okay, when they show up for camp, you learn a lot. Some of these guys, they say you're going to be back. They're not back for a long time. Some of them, like Purdy, are surprisingly ready to go. We didn't know. I think they were tamping down expectations because they didn't want, they didn't know and they didn't want to.

to set anything unrealistic, but they say no restrictions. That's, that's sort of not true because he's going to only practice two out of every three days. So for instance, today's the first day and he's out. Sounds restrictive. But he is fully practicing in the other days. And the big headline to me out of this was they made it clear he's taking the number one reps. They're not messing around with like, oh, we'll do a little Lance, we'll do a little darno. They're like, no, Brock Purdy is taking our number one reps on the days that he's playing. playing. Now, Lance and Darnold works out with Purdy out every third day for a couple of weeks. We'll get their chances too. And Lance just seems to be ahead of Darnold. But that's a big statement, Dan, that it's like it's Purdy's job. They're not really messing around with a bat. Yes. And that's the right way to play it. He's earned this opportunity. The one thing I'll say before we hand out lollipops. Let's check back in in a couple weeks. He's throwing the ball a lot and how his elbow is reacting to that. He's obviously not going to be taking hits or anything. But we've got to see if that elbow can play.

the guitar. Hold on the lollipop if you're Brock Purdy. We're just not going to pass him out yet. Let's pass out a lollipop, though, to Andrew Thomas. The left tackle of the New York Giants who signed a five-year, $117.5 million contract extension. Will you do. Adam Schefter reported the deal includes $67 million, fully guaranteed.

Thomas was one of those guys in, I want to say, is the 2021? 2020. 2020 draft. When there's a bunch of tackles available, the Giants were in that mix in the first like 10, 15 picks, and they hit on the right guy. Last year, PFF graded Thomas is the league's sixth best pass blocking offensive linemen. A little more middle of the road, Gregi, as a run blocker according to their analytics,

but the Giants like him a lot, and now he will be protecting Daniel Jones in the long term. Great reminder for fans, let's say, of Evan Neal, who's also on the Giants drafted in the top 10. or Ikem Akonwu last year for the Panthers. Like, it takes a while for offensive linemen. Andrew Thomas was filleted, like in the radio, New York media, for being a potential bust after a pretty rough rookie year. And then he's just been fantastic the last two. And it's a reminder.

Look who they've given their, I mean, they gave a lot of money to Dexter Lawrence, a lot of money to Daniel Jones, a lot of money to Andrew Thomas. Like, Gettleman is really having a renaissance. Sequin's like, where's, it does show you. Snipe into Seekwant. but he got paid. Right. The positional value is not helping Sequin because everyone else is getting paid.

But get him in there's some good picks. A lot of money. A lot of money. And Barclay did get some vouchers for like free energy shakes in the team commissary. Makes up for it. Right. Well, not free, but subsidized. He's paying only like three bucks for what should be like a $6.

It's a steel. That's a steel inside that building. You got to remember to bring the coupon, though. Right. Because sometimes you get to the front. You're like, oh, I got the. coupon, but it's back at home. They're like, and I should mention they only supply him with the blender

and the ingredients. Saquan has to make his own. I still think it's a fantastic deal for him on that front, on the shakes front. The Bears have signed tight end Cole Commet to a four-year $50 contract extension, according to Shafter, $32.8 million

guaranteed. Woo-wee! That's a lot of money for Colquette. But apparently they see him, Mark, as a Justin Fields' field stretcher or first down getter or red zone stud. Yeah, I mean, Ryan Poles, back in January, they kind of quizzed him like, you just had a really rough season, win loss-wise, like, who are your, like,

blue-chip players on this team? And you'd, like, they probably wouldn't think there's too many of them, but he mentioned him. Like, before the question was even out, he's like, Koke-a-Ku-Kul-Kameh! Yeah, he came running to the room with that answer. So, yeah, maybe part of it is just like, they like him a little bit better than the average person, but I think he's an ascendant guy. Like, he seems to fit really well

with Justin Fields. Well, you're right. They have to get it right. But he also, there's some, I don't know, sometimes teams do things that are like a little bit more than just the on-field performance because he grew up, he grew up a Bears fan. His dad was with the team at some point in the 90s. I mean, there's just a lot going on

where I think the famous Mark prep work here. No, but the Bears are trying to become something and, like, I think he kind of just fits. And, you know, I can think of like, when the Browns paid Dave in the Joku. I was like, I really like Dave in the Joku, half the time. And then he's killing you with

a killer drop in the fourth quarter. He looks the part, but it's like Joku a lot. I think he's going to have a big year. I know. You like him a little more than I do. I do. I think he's a proble. Would you agree that he's a little hot and cold? Enigmatic, yeah, for sure. Kemet's, uh, I like Komet better than... Enigmatic

did you call him? In Joku. Is it enigmatic? Did I say it wrong? Yeah, no. You're calling him enigmatic. Yeah. What does that mean? A little mysterious, not unknowable. So I had it. Yeah, sure. A little up and down.

Kind of work. I was just making sure I, like, you know, I'm actually agreeing with your take. He's a big, he's a playmaker that has mental lapses occasionally, but I believe with better quarterback play, he could ascend to the next tier of tight ends. Go ahead. This is, uh, I think Ryan Poles, the GM, also spending the cap space they have now in a way that they can save it for next year. Because they, everyone got all excited about how much.

much cap space the bears had going into the offseason. They did what they wanted to, but they still almost had too much. I think there is such a thing as too much. They still had a ton just sitting there. And now you spend it out Commit now. Maybe it's a year early. I think it's a good value deal. I like Commet. I think he'll be more consistent than Najoko. He's, he only turned 24 this offseason. So he was a very young rookie. That's another position where it takes a little bit to get going. Nice little player. All right. Titus Howard with the Texans, Chenna and Wosu with the Seahawks also get new deals. So they are happy and healthy in the bank account.

And Greg, now I'll turn it over to you for a little bit of an injury minute from training camps around the league, except for the Steelers because they just started. All right, back on the practice field. No pup list for these gentlemen. Michael Thomas. How about that? He's back again. Jack Leonard, this was a little bit of a surprise for me.

I'm going to keep an eye on that one. Javante Williams. We don't know if he's fully back, but he's not on the pub. That surprised me. That's a good sign. His knee was jacked up. That's big. Kyle Pitts, who's had this strange injury.

I'm keeping an eye on it, but he's back. And then John Mechie, the Texans draft pick from a year ago, who overcame the chemia. So cheers to John Mechie, because he was also sidelined in the offseason just with an injury. The people on the Pup list, Dan, Jonathan Taylor, this one caught my eye. I look like he had a procedure done this offseason. On his ankle? Is it maybe he's still overcoming that? I need to check that.

I don't like that. The injury minutes fall in a fire. Breece Hall on the Puplist, Von Miller, no surprise there. And then Tarran Armstead, the left tackle always seems to be hurt for the dolphins had a procedure that no one knew about in the office. And he hurt himself working out. I mean, he's trying to stay healthy there, Mr. Armstead. Jonathan Taylor, there's something popping there. He's made it clear.

He's maybe the most vocal in terms of unhappy running backs out there. Because he would be up for a new contest. He wants a new contract. Right. This is not a great kind of a mess for him. So he doesn't have a lot of leverage in that department. I don't like the Von Miller thing either. Yes.

Yeah, the ankle surgery was earlier this off season, recurring issues. They don't believe it's going to be a long stay. But he doesn't seem happy. Good injury minute. That's what's happening in the news. promo time. Football is back. Let's have some bed music for this.

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It's very essential. What meetings? Well, no, definitely not those. But like NFL Plus meetings, I could take or leave. I am very excited about some ideas we have for NFL Plus this year. You guys on the same page? Yeah. Can't wait to share it with you, the audience.

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with Ian and it just so happened Gregi while we're talking to him he's increasingly distracted on his phone and he does like a walkout right after we're finished and it turns out and you would clarify this with a follow-up text yes as the ATN Media Insiders apprentice I reached out to Ian

and yes he was working on the Justin Herbert contract which he broke on Tuesday and you could have figured out that we taped it ahead of time because Ian stumbled over that many times in this interview. But yes, that was why he was kind of giving us not his full attention at some points in the interview.

But he handled it like a problem. I thought it was a little showy, the walkout and things of that nature. But it turns out I have to, and you'll hear me, kind of bury him a little bit. Yeah, we critiqued him. But in this case, yes, there was a reason why he was doing that

and give him a little pop there. I mean, we'll listen to, but I believe you went so far as to suggest that he was just putting on an act just to walk out of the room. And actually, he's working incredibly hard. Big story. Yeah, that's why they call him the rap sheet, the insider,

and a little shot across the bow of the Pellraiser while we're here. All right, let's throw it to that conversation. Welcome back. Joining us now is a man for Damn, over a decade now has been... What is this music? Are we to Phil Collins concert? There it is.

What are they called? The Roershack? That's a type of test, yeah. However you hear it, it's very interesting to see how different people hear it. Like, Kyle Brent was on the program. I think during the pandemic, and he said it sounded like an episode of Silk Stockings

that he might have been watching. in his teen years. Everyone seems to have different interpretations of it. You say, Phil Collins, seems a little sultry for Genesis, but maybe Colin's solo work. I assume I'm waiting on the drums to come in, you know? Yeah. This is the guy driving back to his apartment after he learned that his partner had been shot. And his girlfriend or wife.

On some episode of Magnum P.I. Yeah, you're too close to the case. And, yeah. Ian Rappaport, everybody. What's up? You know, we have, this is, let's start there. Let's start on a positive, uh, you got some negative stuff coming? Usually something comes up negative.

But like one of the big faux poshs of our show is if we have a guest in there, like, on their phone during an interviewer. But Rapsheet, it's kind of his brand. So I think maybe you get the past. So if you have to stay on top of things as you do, uh, as you did today, in fact, or earlier or yesterday with Sequin Barclay. Today. Oh, yesterday. Oh, we got it. We figured that. And then I correct myself, but then you brought more attention to it. Just an issue. Taping this a day earlier. Make, make this make sense. Please, because it's very,

Sequin Barclay is tagged. Yeah. He signs it. Is it technically the franchise? I don't, it doesn't matter. Why would he choose the small amount of incentives? Oh, and then set himself up to be tagged again next year. Make it make sense because you broke the story about Barclays deal with the Giants. Yeah, at yesterday, even though it's actually today, but yesterday I was, I found out at midnight that this deal was happening. There's some things that needed to happen, and so I knew that it could probably break around seven Eastern time, and I'm on the West Coast like you guys, so I was up at 3.30 a.m. holding

my phone like this, waiting to hit the button, which, you know, what if something goes wrong what if like come on bro what if a physical doesn't go well which i knew it was but what if there's contract language that isn't good like it just i'm like i better be up for this or what if someone else you know had it 45 minutes before and i was sleeping and then you're like right are you uh posting information on on x and threads at this point duplicate type of when i remember i put it on threads yes um i threads is a yeah Yeah, we'll see what happens there. You know, it's interesting being an insider,

before we get into some more Barclay stuff, let's just a quick aside here. It seems like a terrible job. Like a great job in the visibility and you make a tremendous amount of money. Your salary is outrageous. Definitely not true, but okay. I don't do it for the salary, Dan.

I get it. There's such a... He's actually thinking like a Rick shot. I did ask him before we started whether he's graduated to having a private car. taking him from locations during his visit, Sunday California. I wasn't joking. I feel like you might be able to get that into a contract negotiation.

That's a conversation for you and an agent. I like to be in charge of my own stuff. Yeah. But my point is it feels like it's such a thin line of what you can end up getting buried for as an insider. And people are always looking for something. I think he had a tweet last month about a college coach. I had an unfortunate ending to his career. And then I saw you popping up at websites and people are getting on time.

I saw that too. I read your tweet. And I'm like, was worth, you know, I just feel like it's a tough thing. What did I say? It was about Pat Fitzgerald and I said a dramatic, a dramatic conclusion or something like that. And originally I had

a dramatic and correct conclusion. Right. But I don't really love to like get out there and put my opinion on things because honestly like I do not know. So I said dramatic, which is something that is sudden, something that comes out of nowhere and is sudden. And that a coach who'd been there

18 years getting fired was pretty dramatic. And people took it in a way that... I have a theory. Wait, you got in trouble for this? I... No, no, no, it's just, you know, there's... It's caught heat for it.

A lot of parsing language. And, like, but here's the thing. Like, I... I don't think, like, say, like, it's easy to get yourself in trouble. I don't, I don't think it is. Because everything that I would say in an interview, whether it's here or on radio or on a show or on our shows

or literally anything, it's all intentional. Like, I don't like trip and fall and say something offensive. You know what? I mean so like it's not like I have to like I don't really give my opinion on a lot of things but I've been not giving my opinion on things for 12 years it's not very difficult now so like whatever I would tweet I would say in a show or say to you like I just it's not very hard to not you don't fly off the handle much sometimes uh but you want to say I think out loud so sometimes uh people get upset you get upset sometimes I do get upset um and but I

I don't fly off the handle ever. Do you feel like you still have as much, I'm sure when you're a young journalist and you break news, there's that rush of excitement, the thrill. Like, do you feel like the thrill is still getting the Barclays? Inside of your world?

That was fun. That was fun yesterday morning. Because obviously we're not taping this a day early. No. It's at some time it was taped. That was, like, so there's a lot of stress. And like, you know, if someone calls and say, hey, I got this contract extension,

like put it out now that's fun and exciting and then like you do it and it's like woohoo and then it's over the Barkley one was stressful because that had to sit for eight hours so like that was not a very fun night of sleep last night honestly

but then you hit send and then you watch everyone's like reaction come in and you knew like I knew that nobody knew this was happening so to watch the reaction was like and it was positive it's all positive so I do enjoy that I take the losses

less bad than I used to because there's always something else like if I get burned on something or someone was supposed to give me something to give someone else or I thought I had something and it ended up getting out a different way like the DeAndre Hopkins scoop I felt like I had a pretty good handle on that one

I've done a lot of DeAndre Hopkins stuff and I did not break it I had the money first but I didn't have the team first. Doug Ked Patriots. Headheads out there were rejoicing. Former Patriots writer. But yeah, I was annoyed, but it's like, all right, like, get the money, get the next.

Like, it's such a long game that I handle the losses a little bit better. It's the opposite of Bill Parcells, who said as he got older, he no longer had the mental defenses to deal with losing. And in my little experience, just as a sports fan, I feel like I can identify with that. I think it gets harder as you get older. The deal with a losing? Yeah. Coming from a Patriots fan, but that's funny. And other sports, other sports.

Celtics, tennis. I'm in a post-Patriots world, yeah. Losing still sucks. Like, don't get me wrong. But there's just so much that it's like, like, I work as hard as I possibly count on one thing. But then when it's over, it's always like, I mean, you see on TV, like, let's say a big contract happens. Well, then it's like, okay, you talk about your contract for 20 seconds. seconds and it's like what's the next it's always sort of like onto the next so like mentality

wise like that actually helps you should move on so quickly it's funny because that whole insider game also there's there's rivals and um you know you have a rival at ESPN I believe that you guys been duking it out for years yep um Doug Ked well the Ked heads out there you know but it hurts I would say I would guess it hurts less to get beat by the Kedheads than by a Schafter now we have someone in uh in the building or the NFL media a universe named Tom Pelliserro, who you're golf buddies with, you seem to be close friends

with Pelliser. He has his own drop on this show. He's the Pell Razor. Now, does it bring you a level of frustration or anger that we don't have an E&Drop when you are delivering news when we're going through it in our rundown of the week? Did you used to?

Did we? Well, I would only say, and this is not personal at all, but the Pelliserro, the Pellraiser drop has become immense. It's taken off, yeah. We don't know Tom, but it seems like he would like it. Maybe let him know. I haven't sensed the momentum toward that that you guys have.

Oh. In fact, I actually didn't know it existed until right now. I don't think of Donald or towards this soundtrack. No, plenty of momentum for Tom. Because it seems like Tom's got some momentum. And he does? That's tricky having a rivalry within the building. You've dealt with that before and you proved victorious.

Yeah, but whenever Tom. Who are you going to kill next? and well no whenever tom gets something he deserves it and so like he and i were bang bang on the travon digs extension yesterday again because this is not right yeah um hammer it in hammer that nail in yep and so when he gets it he deserves it so like you know there's been definitely things that i thought i was going to break that he breaks but it's always better than the alternative and so like it's it's it's It's all about Schaefter.

I'm just saying it's always better than the alternative. Any single way. Shepter is the devil. Plus, Tom deserves it. He's done great. Are you better golfer than him? Yeah. You guys golf a lot.

Why? It's a lot of golf. And when we played I shot 86, he did not. Mark, what's your take on golfing for a middle-aged men? I see the attraction. I personally don't have seven or eight hours to spend time doing it. What's your thing? my thing yeah everyone has to have a thing what's your thing a lot of it can't be mentioned but uh

it's not golf can't be mentioned well this audience isn't is this audience not numb to your antics by now how long have you guys had this whatever this is we don't ask him what he does in his own time it's the podcast i think they're largely they could surmise it's kept us employed i had a friend in college uh sort of a friend an acquaintance in college who was riding way downtown in the city with another one of my buddies and they happen to be on the same subway and one guy gets off and he looks at the other guy and he goes don't follow me that's kind of what you're like that's that's very much the cessler move except you just wouldn't say anything you just would leave wait what do you think that sequin barclay going on this uh zoom call with the running back

somehow like took leverage away because apparently i don't know florio was on it or people just heard what was in it everyone had the idea on the zoom call call that he was going to camp anyways, why even, I guess you could make an extra $900,000 out of this deal, but why do it at all? Like, why not hold out for more? Why not, why not at least get a promise not to tag? John Maurer does not do that is the reason. And so, like, there are things in negotiating where you say, like, I can get this or I can get that. Some things are a non-starter, right? It's like, you know, like, a, Fully guaranteed deal for quarterbacks, for everyone not named Deshawn Watson was a non-starter.

And I think all the quarterbacks would. Or Kirk Cousins. The greats. The greats of the game. The future hall of favorites. He was great. He was great in that Netflix show. I assume you guys have watched.

We will be talking about it on Thursday's program. Taped on Wednesday? It's all, no. Taped on Thursday, maybe for a Friday release. Got it. But, like, so anyway, why did he do the deal? He was probably going to come in a couple weeks into camp. okay history has not been kind to the players who come in late to camp a lot of times they get

injured i think what bosa did one of his holdouts he ended up with a hamstring injury he didn't play for four weeks like being in shape and getting ready to go kill it this season is important i think what all your friends are at training camp and you're not i think that sucks and like look either his options were hold out and sign the tag or not hold out and get extra money and get a little up front like absent a long-term deal I thought this was a totally fine solution and I think we're probably going to see more of it

now that some other players are going to be like I don't know when Josh Jacobs is going to come in but like this structure would probably make sense to him too if the Raiders were willing to do it. Yeah do you get the sense because the way it's reported he was seen boarding a plane

he's leaving town is that something where it could be you know a little little bit more heat to it than your typical holdout situation? I got the sense, like, they didn't do a new contract, obviously, so that's the number one goal. But I got the sense it was okay. Like, they didn't agree on where he should be, but I didn't feel like anybody was, like, throwing things against the wall and hating each other.

It was more like, we disagree on value. Okay, like, let's try to move forward. There was an interesting report in the athletic, though, by a former guest of the show, Vic Tafor. who was kind of like why all the spin after the Josh Jacobs deal that it was so close, essentially saying without saying that McDaniels is maybe trying to send a message to Mark Davis, that we gave it a good shot, this is a guy you really like, or maybe sending a message to the fans that, hey, we got close, and was kind of saying without saying, I'm putting words in the mouth here,

but that it's a little bit more of some old McDaniels, off the field chicanery, which if you kind of look at it, it's been piling up. It's like they signed Derek Carr, he's gone. Renfro's on the trade block. Maybe, maybe not. Darren Waller, you sign him and he's gone. Devonty Adams is grumbling a little.

There is some like McDaniels-Denvery vibes there. See, I don't get the vibes. I understand what you're saying because, like, obviously at some point you need to win. And if they don't win this year, then there will be obviously questions, just like there is with anyone who doesn't win. I think they were pretty close.

And in fact, like, my opinion means nothing. But, like, I'm talking to a lot of people as these deals happen. And, like, there were definitely moments on that Monday where I thought a deal was going to happen. So, like, I didn't think it was spin. I really thought, like, as I'm preparing for, like, you know, we're about to do a show. And we're going to do a show at 4 o'clock Eastern, 1 o'clock Pacific. Monday. It's franchise tag day.

Got it. And, like, the producers are like, what's your topics? I'm telling them, like, I think there's a real chance Josh Jacobs gets done. So I didn't think it was spin, but they were like really up front with him. So even like our spin kind of doesn't really matter. The only thing that matters is the Raiders talking to him.

And I think they were really like transparent and upfront about what happened and how close they got. I want to shift gears because I feel like over these summer months there have been these sometimes valid, invalid, but just whispers that Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, to New England, like, is there tension there? Do they really want... I saw that there was a Tom Cairn thing that I saw. Like, I mean, you know, you hear about how Kraft I thought

went out of his way to defend Matt Patricia and what happened last year to some degree. He's gone out of his way to praise Jared Mayo and the fact that they really love him so much. Like, is there a world where Bill Belichick is on the hot seat to some degree this season? I don't view it

like that. First of all, I think they're going to be fine. Or maybe more than fine. I think, you know, Bill O'Brien was a very good hire. I think Mac Jones was not coached very well at all last year. And, like, I don't know how you're supposed to judge a second year quarterback when he gets injured and then was coached poorly. Like, that's just, and nothing against Matt Patricia, like, good defensive coach. He just is not an offensive coordinator. I just, they need to do better.

But are you asking me, like, do I think Robert Kraft would, like, outright fire Bill Belichick after the season? Like, I don't see it like that. Is there tension there? I mean, I don't, I think they agree on how to move forward And they agreed on where things needed to go after last season, which was not good enough I think they would both like to win But to me, tension is like one side wants one thing, the other side wants something different Like, I don't think this is like a GM and an owner or coach in an owner not on the same page

I think it's both like both wish there were more wins. but I think they're okay as far as, like, how to proceed. Belichick, like, mentioning the amount of actual cash they were spending to me was an eye-opener. A red flag. Here's the quote from Kraft that was in March when asked about... When we were all standing in the flowers in March? Yes. Whether Bill's job could be in jeopardy.

And Kraft said, look, I'd like him to break Don Chul's record, but I'm not... That's for all-time wins, Fred coaches, but I'm not looking for any of our players to get great stats we're about winning and doing whatever we can to win and that's what our focus is now and I and this is where I thought it was interesting and I it's very important to me that we make the playoffs and that's what I hope happens next year which led to me and a lot of the people saying that all set a very close to a playoffs or bust mandate from the owner but of course this isn't just any other coach but you're right you don't see it that way it's it's there's too much history for it to be as straightforward as that he's the greatest coach of all time right and I know this whole

organization has been built on not caring as much about the records, whatever, individual records, whatever they are, right? But it's about to become the greatest coach of all time. And like, let's say they go 8 and 9 this year, I don't know, miss the playoffs. Then he'd still be 9 away for the all-time record. I don't think that's a reason to keep anyone, but I don't see Robert Kraft being like, all right, you're out, Gerard Mayo, come in. I just, I would be beyond some.

You used to cover the Pats for the Herald back in the day. Do you ever have any texts with Bill, just about golf or anything else? I will decline to answer that question. Bon Jovi? Is he still a Bon Jovi fan, or did he kind of move on? I thought that was, you know, actually like, so you guys, they stick with their... So you return his text, just not mine. One of my favorite Bill Belichick interactions was I ran into him in Indy and for the Combine.

And, like, you know, I hadn't seen him in a little bit. And so I was like, this is great. Like, we'll get to catch up. And I'm thinking, like, we're going to talk about football. And he's just going to tell me everyone they're going to sign in free agency. And then it ended up being a 30-minute conversation on horse racing. Hmm. And, like, a full breakdown of, like, which track is best to watch races on and, like, why he loves it and, like, why I love it.

And then about fashion and women's fashion and hats. It was amazing. Wow. That's the podcast. I need Bill Belichick on women's horse racing fashion. If you wanted Bill Belichick on this podcast, which obviously had had big shoes to fill after today, but I think you could probably get him if you were like,

listen, here's what we're going to ask you about. No football and just all the like non-football topics that he loves so, so much. Can you make a note of this? We're going to have a post-production meeting about how to pitch Bill. Last question, because we know you've got to go. Busy, man. I'm getting so many texts. or tomorrow.

So many Texan calls during this conversation. So Josh McDaniels will see what happens with him this year. Bill Belichick, probably safe, but maybe not. In a couple of weeks, we do our annual hot butt rankings of head coaches. Like last year, for example, every is I go Matt Rule, his butts on fire. And sure enough, it was. Do you sense any coaches out there that are under an immense amount of pressure at the rule level to, you know, survive to Halloween, for instance? I don't sense anybody like that.

Like I think last year going in, I think we all kind of knew like, all right, maybe the Panthers, if they don't win, it could be not. It's not really like that this year. Now,

these things can happen so fast. I certainly did not see Frank Reg coming last year. So this, you know, the way a season materializes, like I can, you know, these can kind of take a shape of its own.

But I don't, I mean, Maybe if you could read through the list of teams and I could come up with something. Right. This is a hope season. You're about to visit half these teams. You don't want to be, uh, well, it's also like, there is hope. So like, I was at the Rams today.

Commanders is an obvious one if they don't win. Just it's a new owner. New owners, like, but they're not going to do it like during the season necessarily. But I'm saying they probably need to get it, get a winning record. They're probably one, but like they also could like, they also could be good. All these teams could be good. The Browns, if they stink, you would think, we'll make a change. But, like, Deshawn Watson, only on the field,

Deshawn Watson has been a very, very, very, very good quarterback except for last year. Like, I still think he's going to end up as a very good player, and if that's the case, they should be good. Sure. But, like, the Rams are a good example. I went there yesterday. Yeah. I have no earthly idea how good the Rams are going to be.

They are very young. They still have some really good players, but they have a lot of players I have not heard of. And they have a coach who's in a much better place this year. And I think it's going to love coaching this team. So they could finish 4 and 13 or they could finish 10 and 7. I have no idea. If they are 2 and 5 at the trading deadline, though, don't you think they're a team I'm kind of circling for that and the Titans would maybe be another where the trade deadline doesn't pop too much. About the buck.

In the NFL, maybe the bucks. Teams that have some veterans, if they're really buried, I would think that the Rams, I don't know. Well, like, Matthew Staff. I would think about pivot. Move on from. Right, but like, then it's like a lot of salary. That's the problem with the trade deadline.

And like, I know it's the way it's constructed, so whatever. But like, it's too early. It's so hard to move so on with a big salary in October. Nobody has the space or whenever the trade deadline is. What about in L.A., though? Brandon Staley. he's someone I feel like if they flounder again after the way last season ended talented young coach but like that feels sort of hot seatish to me uh I mean two new coordinators and sometimes

two new coordinators is the start of something not good also like I think Kellen Moore's is going to be really really good and they should be running more of Staley's defense this year like If they're strangely bad, I would say it could get late early there, but they should be good. You know, like, they have really good players. Like, they should be, I think they should be really good. Ian Rappaport. You've said it all. I didn't even need to be the peacemaker this time because they're just tranquil vibes here.

Much more comfortable. Before the season. I mean, I just met Leah, Ian's lovely wife. He is kind of a power move, but I appreciated it. I think it's the first spouse I've ever seen brought to the, Content Summit, but you have to be high enough on the totem pole, I think. This is what I'm talking about. But you know what?

I talked some tennis, you know, it was great. It was great. I hope she didn't have to sit through the. She's a Sabalanka fan, which really. Big Sabalanka fan. It impresses me. All right, got to go. All right, there he goes.

He said it all. Where could he be going? Oh, he's on the phone, but who's the call from? Just say it. What could it really be that's that important? It's like a source or something. He completely forgot it. We existed as he exited this room.

I know. But you, I think it's, and thank you to Ian for coming. Definitely like it makes him feel like a big man to walk out on the phone like that. Just drop the headset and get on the phone and walk out. He was talking to somebody. Oh, I know. I don't think he's, I don't think anyone was there coming out of the phone. I don't know if it was anybody.

I don't think he could be scheduling a dental point or something. I think that was a full performance. And I think it's the brand. It's a way to show this was a thing I did. Like you said, it's already forgotten. Because now I'm on the phone with Bill Belichek. Sure. Well, it's a crutch, but it's also an assist.

Kyle Brandt always points out when he does the photo recap of, like, the NFL talent photo. It's always rap sheet with the phone. Like, he's looking at the phone. So it's sort of like, it's his bit. But it also gets him out of uncomfortable having to interact with lesser here. Can we get an instant replay of him storming out of the studio? Do you have those capabilities? Kicks the chair back as he leaves?

Not in real time. We'll work on that in post. We're going to hire someone $197,000 a year just to have us like a slow-motion replay retainer. But maybe on Instagram, people could see the walkout by report. Yeah, you can make that happen. All right. Good stuff. Any takeaways from that?

I think I agree with him. I thought it was good, and Ian knows how things work on the Patriot Way, because he lived up there and covered that team. So I think that there is something to be said for what he was putting out. It was like, yeah, we read the quote or see the quote from Kraft and it makes it seem like it's a cut and dry thing because almost any other owner you see that. I'd be like, yes, that is very clear that that team needs to win nine or ten games or else. But I think Kraft is not a guy that's going to do anything in a hasty manner. I think he's an excellent owner. And it would take something truly, I think, we talk about Hellraiser.

It would have to be hell-raising in New England, like a four-and-thirteen or real fighting. Even his scenario he laid out to me, I immediately thought worst-gey scenario. If he won eight games and he was nine away from beating Shula, then I'm just thinking, well, what if he wins like eight games the next year? And then he's won away for it. Like the whole thing could be excruciating and sad. So the thing that they got to do is just win 10 games, win 11 games, surprise some people, and then you don't have to worry about it.

I thought what he pointed out, though, was that there isn't like, it's not setting the table for a clash. They want the same things. But another milk toast season by the Patriots puts you in a weird place. Milk toast, yes, I think it's a little uncomfortable. I do think, and we'll see, because we all fall into the trap and we did last year with the AFC West. AFC East looks very good on paper.

If it really did play out where the Jets, Dolphins, the Bills were all big-time teams, and the Pats go 5 and 12, then what? Like, what would necessitate some type of, like, watershed moment in New England? It might be a true cratering. I don't see it happening, but, I mean, it's possible. I just think from the craft angle for the point that he's not, like, a knee-jerk reaction type guy, like,

if you're Robert Kraft and you move on from Bill Belichick, you have to follow that up with another coach who are going to be comparing to Bill Belichick. He needs to succeed right away. Who is that person? You don't want to be the guy. You don't want to be the guy that replaces the guy. I feel like we know the guy unless Belichick starts hitting a hot streak and lasts another five years,

which is possible. And that guy's Jared Mayo, right? I'm just saying. If I'm Jared Mayo, I'm sorry. You want to follow up Bill Belichick? I want to do that. Well, that's the thing is things are different this year. Kraft released this statement about Mayo hiring, which they never do.

They actually finally, it's not breaking news, but they did finally on the Patriots website, tell the public, just if you click coaches. is who the Patriots coaches are this year. But that was just this week. And Joe Judge was essentially... And there's only like... Again, it's only like seven of them and four are related to Belichick.

And Judge was essentially promoted, which is mysterious. Joe Judge was promoted to us. Hey, man. Some people, man. Some people. All right, good stuff. Thank you again to Rap Sheet for joining us. And we will be back with one more show this week. So thank you for being along on the ride as we, you know, the beginning of training camp.

And as we head toward a new year, We are rolling now. Let us go. Mark, the floor is yours to say goodbye. Well, farewell to you. You being the listeners, farewell. It's like two a days. Eat the call.

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