NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Kayvon Thibodeaux returns; Monday Mailbag

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

A room filled with some heroes - Dan Hanzus and Marc Sessler bring you all the latest news from around the league. Kayvon Thibodeaux crashes the start of the podcast for his third appearance on the show to discuss rookie dinners and answer questions that could only come from Marc (1:30). Then, the heroes cover pressing news items, including the latest updates with Deshaun Watson (19:30), Alvin Kamara's potential suspension (22:45), and Jimmy Garoppolo's shoulder (25:30). After that, the heroes open up the mailbag to answer your questions (31:00). Stay tuned to the end for a special new episode of This Guy Gets It with Marc Sessler. Note: timecodes approximate.NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. The Around the NFL podcast has traded Greg for a conditional third. From the Chris Wessling podcast studio, it's Around the NFL. Kansas. Just one hero with me. Mark Sessler. Listen, in our league, you need to make moves in a non-sentimental manner. And we thought at this time, moving away from Greg was the right point. I think the listeners will ask, did we get value? Because a conditional third for a really, you know,

died in the world journo, who has done a lot of great work on our show. I mean, what is a conditional third getting us? He's like a franchise star. And we're just giving them up for a conditional third. Maybe. We'll be fired. Yes, we're in the dead of June, quiet period of the NFL. So we're going to just Mark and I, we're going to take you through everything that's going on in the league. The scant amount of news will open up the mailbag and just have fun. That's all.

That's what we do. And it comes naturally to us. What's this? What? Oh my God. Is that? Is that? Is that Caleb?

on Tybado's music? There is. Good to see it again. Whoa. Look at this. Here he comes. Cave on Tibito. The hat trick

on the NFL podcast. Join us draft night. The next week. Now here we are with Warren G featuring the late great Nate Dog. Regulate. This is your walk-up music on the show. How are you, buddy?

I'm doing well, man. It's been a while. I'm happy to be back. Happy to be in the NFL. I have to ask you a question. Do you remember us? I had to ask you name before I walked out, but I do remember. I do remember.

Isn't it? It's Mark with a C. Yeah. All right. This is next level. You won me over. Kavon, like, in baseball, the players get the walk-up music, and that's cool. I feel like a pass-rrusher, especially after a sack.

There should be a stop down. extended play clock. I know you get you get a celebration, but you weren't Warren G like pumps out of the speakers at MetLife Stadium. You know, you know we do get like walk up music. Like third downs, you'd never hear. You probably don't pay attention, but like when third downs come the music play. That's the music is really loud. That's the whole, you know, especially if it's a home game, come on. How much, and I don't know for, and we're going to get into some of this as you begin your rookie journey in the NFL, like how different the college game coming from Oregon is now they're in our league, as it's called, like, in college, was that, like, a big conversation point

amongst the defensive players, like, what's the song we choose? Was there a vote? That it come from upstairs? It's not really a song. I think it's more of, like, what the tradition is at the team, right? You know, because Oregon, we had, like, it was the same song every week, but you knew it was the third down song. And when it came on, it was, you were hype. Is it hard to pay attention when, like, music's blasting and you're attempting to, like, you know, formulate a play call as a group or something? Well, you got to ask offensive players, because on defense, most of the time when it's third down you know the mission right yeah i hear that so where are we at kvon so we just got through the spring uh o t a i do i should ask you as a a do i should ask you as a

dogged journal i should check in on your physical status you were limited or didn't uh prack you were in a red shirt uh red jersey working on the trainer on the side i saw a report out there that it was a a hip issue where we at health wise anything to be concerned about No, I'm 100% fine now. I think, you know, I did tweak my hip at a point of my hip flexor, you know, during OTAs. But after a couple weeks' rest, you know, I'm back. I'm training full and I'm ready to get back for training camp. I like it.

That's good. So you got it here first. And if you write your little blurbs, wherever you write your blurbs, cite around the NFL. Oh, that's the source. There won't be sharp consequences if you don't. Or just cite Kavon, Tibon. That's true.

Well, that's fair. So I was thinking, Kavana, we were thinking about, like, as you begin this journey, we're much older than you, grossly so. You were born in the 2000s, I imagine. Yeah, 2000, exactly. I mean, I'm twice your age plus a few years. That's concerning. Right. Yeah, you guys are on the way out.

On the way out. It's no longer our world. But we have seen a thing or two. So I thought it would be good to have a conversation. We call this segment with Kvon Tibido, third time on the around the NFL podcast, know your league. Okay. we know the NFL we've covered it this podcast been going on since 2013 cave on hadn't even had his bar mitzvah yet at that point he was a young 13 year old boy um but now still haven't had one

still waiting on that still waiting so let's go over a couple things just curious if you know about it if this is something you've already come across let's start with the idea of now hazing is a bit of a dirty word now uh in the nfl we had of course that richie incognito scandal jonathan years ago. But it still goes on. And one thing that really stands out, Kvon, I wanted to ask you about this. There was a podcast fellow New York first round pick, Garrett Wilson, wide receiver of the Jets, was on another podcast, probably inferior to this one. But I'm sure good if they got Garrett. And they talked about rookies having to pay for dinners. Fred Taylor, former great running back of the Jaguars and other teams, said to Garrett Wilson, you know they're going to run that bill up to

like $75,000 that rookies have to pay for meals rookie year. And Wilson said he didn't buy it. Ryan Clark, another great former player said you're the 10th pick of the draft. They know they got the money. Channing Crowder then said he thinks it's his decision. Are you concerned that you're going to be hit with that? No, I'm not concerned. You know, I'm a guy who I'll definitely take care of my guys in D-Line Room. But as far as doing things that I don't want to do, I've never done it. I've always been a leader, not a follower. So we set new standards. all right so let me let me give you a hypothetical from that same interview fred taylor later in his career played with the patriots briefly and he said tom brady would come in there and buy three four five thousand dollar bottle of wine wine take a sip and say good night what if it's now we know there's no tom brady figure involved with the giants right now at least not yet i mean even if there was i don't think i'd stand up tom brady wouldn't take a sip and walk out on me he'd be there he'd be there a whole night And if he did walk out, I'd finish that bottle of wine.

What do you think about this? Years ago, Ryan Leif, Chargers, quarterback, he was the second round pick, the year Peyton Manning came into the league. He had to pick up a tab. He told management about it. And then Junior Seow wiped him out following an interception and practice. Like, is there this code behind the scenes that you would then have to worry about if you were to turn down such a demand from your teammates? I mean, I guess it just depends on who you are. I feel like I've gained a lot of respect from the guys around me, and I show respect to a lot of guys around me.

So I don't think I'd ever have to worry about my physical health. But then again, I also wouldn't do anything that I wouldn't want to do. So peer pressure is not a thing for me. I've got one for you. You remember Tim Tebow, obviously, back when he was a rookie with the Broncos. And for our audio listeners, we're going to show a picture here. We can get that up on the screen. People watching on the video, yeah.

So this was the haircut they gave Tim Tebow. And I guess I would describe it as they shaved around. you know, the shade the top of his head. So he looks sort of like a friar from the middle ages. Would you accept that haircut if a... I think I know the answer based on the first question. That's true. Well, how would you...

If a veteran said this is part of your right of passage, how would you deal with that demand? I would come through a different door. I would need to go to that door. It's an absurd-looking haircut. Yeah, you know, there's a thing... For me, I show a lot of respect to doing extra work. So if they say you're a rookie, you got to run five more,

you've got to show up earlier. You're a rookie, you got to, you know, carry some pads or something like that. That's respect. But as far as, like, yeah. This T-Bos, I think you might look good with that haircut, though. I'm just saying you- You get it first, and I'll just follow you.

We'll do it together. All right, let's go over some fan bases. Again, this is Know Your League. We've been around the block. It's born in 1980, 40s. So we, you know, there are negatives, but there are some positives. We know about these fan bases on a deep level. So we'll start with these.

And tell me if you were aware of this. or how plugged in you are as a new as a new face of the new york giants some heads up the patriots fans they're very sensitive about the new york giants because of 42 and 47 the two super bowls or 46 was there um just something if you didn't know to be aware of if you want to ever drop that in pepper that in next time you guys have a match up for sure he's factored it in how the eagles fans you know about the eagles fans They're fans of the Eagles Red eyes

Small hands Known to bite True story Very moody Very moody fan base You guys listen to the fans Do we? We are I mean we are in some level

Oh you guys are the fans I get it now You guys are the liaison So it's making sense I'm like yeah You know I could care less Right like they hate

Eagles fans hate when you bring up the fact That they once pelted Santa Claus with snowballs You know how much You know how much You could really set a fan base off. How?

You just whip them. You just beat them. That's it. You win the game. There's really none else to talk about. I like to go in the stadiums and I like them to be quiet. I like graveyards. You know, when you go to graveyard you get a piece of mind. Right. When they're leaving midway through the fourth quarter,

that's the good stuff. Me, I tell them to come back. It's not over. Come back. Come back. Don't leave yet. Take more punishment. The show has just begun. Do you know that Bill's fans, when you play the, I don't know, the bills on the schedule, the Giants this year. I don't know. But eventually they will be. Bill's fans will want you to know

that they're the only team technically the plays in New York. They're going to try to give that to you as like a zinger. Wow. Does that bother you at all? I hope you didn't come up with that one. No, no. Listen, I'm just out there. I'm a Jets fan. They try to bring that at me. Right. I got to get

some old school fans that say more hurtful stuff or something than that. That's like, oh man. You said you said something came on the first time we ever spoke. You said one of your goals when you have conversations with people, you know, something like this, you want that, you want to leave having made an impression and make people feel like they know you or know what you're about.

Yep, yeah. I'd like you to, if you could, try to know what Mark's about by the end of this brief conversation we're having. And if you're okay, Mark had just a couple of questions for you. Okay. That I haven't seen yet. I don't know anything about. Sure.

I would ask you this because, you know, the New York Giants, from an earth angle, historical angle going way back do you believe that actual giants roam the earth um that's a good question that's a great question um i mean it factor fiction i mean that's a you know uh it's possible nothing's nothing's impossible physical giant well how tall we're talking 50 i think i think you're there's actually a story there's actually a story in the bible that talks about that so i couldn't i couldn't say that it's not hey they're mentioned they're mentioned they're talking like six 16, 17 feet tall, but very just a different, you know, species. So there's this, there's this crazy thing I watch.

It's like the mountains. They're like mountain ranges and different, like crazy things that are like these, like you say, these giants were too big to be buried. So they basically what encrusted into the mountain ranges. So like you could, if there's a video, you can look up where it's like mountains are shaped like humans or shape like some type of figure. So it's possible. I think it is.

The earth is very weird. How about this? You know, you've just gotten to know Brian Dable. your new coach, would you, just instinctually, do you think he's more of a front spoon or a back spoon when he is spooning someone? I don't answer those type of questions. That's a tough one.

I think that was. All right, forget that one. Next. All right, let's see. How about this? Dan and Mark. Before you go, let's not ask any more personal questions about any other man. Well, how about if I ask a question about the two of us?

Is it about spooning? No, no. It's like, let's say Dan and I were. to appear in front of you in wrestling tights and attempt to wrestle you could you beat us both so what's the newest thing's going on in the NFL anything all right good pivot oh you know what the answer is nothing it's June 27th right now um but you know that's all good so we're going to hear let's wrap it up this is where we're at you ready any other questions yet i think i'm going to pass some of my other questions at this point it's like this is so we're going to

going to be ready for training. I heard you guys are up for extensions. How's that going? You guys been negotiating? Look at that. Yeah. We were negotiations. We got the deal done.

Okay. You signed your rookie deal as well, right? Yeah, I mean, but I'm worried about yours. I heard you guys get some big money coming up. You guys have been doing numbers in around the NFL. I'm beginning to be worried too. We're doing, yeah, we did. I think we got a deal.

I don't think it's in the territory of a top 10 pick in the NFL, but there's gossip that they can only keep one of you. So my question is, where's like, you know, are you guys both going leave or somebody's just going to take the box? Well, we typically have a third, and we've kicked him off the show. Yeah, he's gone. So we're going to be processes of elimination. By the end of today's episode, we're going to have some shadowy league figure from upstairs come and make a decision. Yeah, I don't think you'll actually see him. I think he's just, you know. It'll be phantom. It's like the Joe Pesci and good fellas. When you get back to your office, I think you'll just

have, you won't see your name tag anymore. It'll just, it'll be blank and you'll know. You know more than we do. Thank you, buddy, for coming on. We appreciate it. What else you got going on the rest of the summer? during your break here? Just training. You know, me with a lot of different people, you know,

making sure that I'm ready to go back being in, you know, full health and full shape. But yeah, enjoying the Cali Sun until I get back and got to enjoy that

real New York heat. Oh, yeah. I've heard about it. It's the humidity that gets you as a native New Yorker, I can say that. Kavon, thank you, buddy,

and good luck. Can't wait to watch you all. Yeah, but, you know, those are, you're very insightful. I just think, you know,

personal information shouldn't be aired. You know, yeah, the spoon, stuff with his head coach that's point taken it's just a question that I was

board box out for you after that time I was just simply curious about that on my own but I but I understand why you would not want to answer that you know yeah I think that's fair you I think you only got like two more shakies and you might be on a different podcast so two more shakies for Mark Sessler all right came on

thank you buddy appreciate you guys thank you all right Mark we We're making the quest towards friendship with Kavon-Tibodeau. Where do you think we stand after that conversation? I think we got friends zoned to some degree. And not in the way that we were angling for. You know, our show has a certain flavor to it.

And I thought we pursued that flavor to some degree. I would not call that a home run out of the park in terms of his enjoyment of the event. It was fine, I thought, overall. I knew we were in for an interesting 15 minutes when before we started, Kavon, you know, he's curious what we were going to be talking about and then he looked at your computer screen and I was like, oh, my goodness.

If he sees the madness of a Mark Sessler question before we start, and sure enough, you know, he wasn't into all the questions, I would say, that came out of the mind of Mark Sessler. Is it so wrong that I actually, when I think of certain individuals, like a Brian Dayball. There are moments, I'm sure,

with his significant other or whoever. It's fine with anyone that he has spooned and I'm curious as to which position he would prefer. Not every man is a backspun. I would just, I would just,

I would say maybe there is a teachable moment in there. I imagine there is. In an ongoing quest to be a great interviewer and a Barbara Walters with a soft focused in 88, that type of situation. that maybe a lot of these guys don't want to talk about like spooning and the head coach, especially rookies coming into the league.

That makes perfect sense. I was out of place potentially, and I think the follow-up asking about you and I in tights, taking him on in a grappling match probably was not the direction to go in either. Grave-digger, how do you think that went? One out of ten. Three? Excuse me, Gravedigger. Three-dickers.

Three out of ten? Okay, well. We got some good stuff about paying for dinner or whatever. Sure. Yeah, real nugget. All right. Well, we survived, I think. So far.

So far. It put us ill at ease. You and I shared a couple looks during the whole process. You know, it's like, can someone come out of the wilderness and shoot me now? Yeah, we're going to be all right. And we still, I'm not giving up on the quest to be friends with Kvon. I think we took a step back, I would say. you know friendship has those ebb and flow moments and so you know we have to be resilient

and seek his friendship in potentially a different way all right let's hit uh let's hit a break and then do the news what's up everybody daniel jeremiah here and i'm bucky brooks on move the sticks we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters every week we study the tape talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Visit Toyota.com slash NFL now to learn more. But you do want to be our friends, right? I don't. All right, let's get into it. Hey, Mark Sessler. Newark, let's spin.

Okay, I don't like that approach. That's, that's, but yes, we shall. That's not a bad podcast idea. Spin forward with Miarx Yossler. I don't like the, I don't like the way it's being said. Spend Fierd with Miarc Siaz. Here we go. Get like 68 tweets about that over the next.

72 hours. Let's start as we must in this year, 2022. Deshawn Watson, let's check in on his situation. We'll start with the reporting that came out over the weekend. The Wall Street Journal's Andrew Beaton reports that the NFL will push for a indefinite suspension that would last no shorter than one year for Watson, who has been taking part in the Browns off-season program. I think Cleveland Brass,

which in general is laying low with this mark and hoping, you can imagine and assume, that they're going to have Watson in some form on the field this season. But according to this reporting, the NFL is making a hard push to keep him off the field for at least one year. An indefinite suspension would potentially take him off the field for more than the 2022 season.

And of course, he missed all 2021 when everything was unfurling around him, the legal situation. And then we also got an update about the lawsuit and the ongoing litigation involving Watson. The Houston Texans were formally named as defendants on Monday in the ongoing civil litigation involving their former quarterback. This from Tony Busby, the Houston attorney, who at one time, represented 25 different women with lawsuits against Watson. Many of them have been settled now, but there are still ongoing lawsuits. Today we filed the first case of what will likely be many against the Houston Texans related to Deshaun Watson's behavior, Buzzby said.

Right. And that, you know, there are details inside the lawsuit against the Texans that I, particularly this one, I find disturbing. The Cleveland Browns kept saying over and over, we're confident with the homework that we did, before we engaged with DeShan Watson and made him the richest player in the entire league. But there's a quote inside this lawsuit that says, despite claims that it did extensive due diligence, not one question was asked by Watson's new employer, the Browns, of the victims about Watson's alleged behavior. No effort was made to obtain the police file or speak to the investigating

offers. It's a terrible look for the Cleveland Browns because everything they've told us not a surprise sounds like an utter lie at this point. And they're in a disastrous situation if Watson is suspended for a year plus. He's going to, his hearing will take place in front of Sue L. Robinson. It's going to be a little bit different than some of these hearings in the past where it would be Goodell's decision alone. And, I mean, it's notable that the NFLPA is going to defend Watson to some degree from any suspension it deems inappropriate or excessive.

So there is another side to this, but it just feels to me like the NFL and all the reporting suggests are pushing to get him out of the mix for this entire season and completely reset the board for next year, and it could be longer than that, too. And I think that's all we know about this case, it should be a year-long suspension, in my opinion. And the process has obviously kind of dragged out over the course of 2022. You remember there was a report last month that the NFL wanted to have this situation figured out in terms of potential suspension in June. And here we are now in very late June. So we'll see what comes out of this meeting

with this hearing with Sue L. Robinson. So the Watson situation ongoing we'll see what happens next in other news. God, the Browns got themselves

in a whole heap of mess with this thing. What a mess. I mean, it's like, you know, if you think where they were last off season where they had come off

a playoff victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers, you thought that you were getting the better version of Baker Mayfield, you're the coach of the year and I think that coach of the year, Kevin Stefanski quietly has to be

absolutely incensed with what's gone down here because he's been put up in a terrible position Jacoby Brissette potentially could be starting 17 games for a team that looks like they'll be the worst team in the AFC North that that's the case.

In other news, Pro Football Talks, Mike Floreo reports that Saints running back, Alvin Kamara is bracing for a suspension of at least six games. You will remember that Camara is facing felony battery charges for allegedly throwing punches

at an incident in Las Vegas. We'll see what this means for the Saints. But I think this is something that caught me a little bit by surprise. I remember when the news came out and there was some video taped evidence of what had happened. And now here we are in a situation

where you can miss a substantial part of the season. For a Saints team that, depending how you look at them, you could see them as a real NFC player losing your best player for that amount of time potentially. Even if it got appealed down to four games, that's substantial. Yeah, and I think part of it is the timing of it because Florio noted that, you know, the NFL may wait until the legal process on this one plays out, but maybe it could be later in the season.

But I think, you know, in that offense, which has obviously improved its wide receiver group. But James Winston, you know, it depends what version of James Winston you get. But losing Kamara is not unlike losing a Christian McCaffrey in Carolina. I mean, he's that important to him. I think it's probably also taking fantasy heads and having their heads explode because I don't know what's going to happen with him. Yeah, no, that's a good call. Hey, look at you with the fantasy analysis there, Mark.

That's a great point, Mark. I am zoned in on when they're agitated about things. Yeah, it makes him either somebody that you're going to drop, take off your board entirely. It's all over the map, but we need to see where that's, you'd stash him. Well, it depends what kind of draft you're in. If people are scared off him, you grab him at a value zone, and then he's only out for four games, four to six games. Could be two games.

Well, that's a great point, Mark. Thank you. All right, time for news and notes presented by Upwork, where you can build the team that will build your business, learn more at Upwork.com. This is just kind of moving the timeline of the story along, so I'll just pass it along here, Mark, and interested in your thoughts.

49th's quarterback Jimmy Garapolo, his timetable for throwing remains on schedule, after off-season shoulder surgery from ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. The expectation has been that Garapolo had the right shoulder surgery in March will throw over the next few weeks after he's been cleared

and that plan remains in place. So it's kind of a story, non-story update, non-update, but I imagine there are certain people, Jimmy Garapolo and his agent, for starters. The Niners are probably cool at this. Getting this information out here,

hey, he's okay. Everything's on schedule. He's ready to start throwing. He'll be your quarterback if you want him in September. And yet there's zero whisper at all about there being a market for Jimmy Garoppolo. I think it's a problematic scenario. I mean, you'd have to look at like, in theory, the Panthers could be interested, but there's a Baker-Mayfield situation that you're not trading them to the Seattle Seahawks. And so what team out there wants to sign Jimmy Garoppolo for 26 or 24 plus million, but then you're going to. have him come in maybe five or six weeks before you're playing actual regular season games in acclimating him as a starting quarterback. It feels like a tough sell. Would you,

so you rule out any chance that they would deal within the division? I don't rule it out depending on what they could get in return. Right, because I feel like that would take precedence if they could get the best deal from Seattle. Not to say that this is something, it probably isn't reality. They don't want to put trade them within the division. But also, I don't get the feeling that Kyle Shanahan is necessarily thinking that Garoppel is a difference maker, hence why they're looking to trade him in the first place. So maybe that would almost be the best place to trade him

when you want to look at, depending on your perspective on this. I mean, Shanahan seems so loyal to Jimmy G2 and like he's hung around much longer than people thought and started the entire season last year. And in reverse, I don't sense immense confidence in Tray Lance. It just seems like a little bit of a strange situation. But this is the thing. Like the whole market changes for Baker-Mayfield for Jimmy G.

When we get to camp and two starting quarterbacks had their knees wrecked or something. That's when the trade market goes crazy. And you'd have a situation like when Sam Bradford got moved for like a first rounder because the need suddenly changes. There's no need for Jimmy Gropolo right now. Trey Lance has worked with the 49ers first team offense during the offseason while Garoppolo has spent his off-season rehabbing. in southern california so niners look like a team ready to move on but they first need

to be able to move their former current quarterback or starting quarterback so we'll see where that goes all right finally in the news all right mark here we are a little uh the boxing the NFL player's boxing where do you come down on the NFL players boxing i mean UFC boxing whatever it is i've never made the effort to go watch one of these fights i think that's indicative of my interest. Okay, fair enough. I'm going to just going to pass this one along as well then, but that there's a matchup in the works

between two of the great running backs of the past, you know, 20 years or at least at certain points in their career. Adrian Peterson and Levion Bell squaring off. Who do you got? I'll tell you who I got. Adrian Peterson. You ever shake hands with that, man? No.

His hands, NFL honors. It was the year you stepped on Ryan Tannihil, wife's purse. Lauren Tanahill's white, like white leather purse and heard something crack and smashed. You definitely heard something crack and we just kind of shuffled away quietly. Sorry, Gravedigger. He was on Adolvence at the time if it makes you feel better. I shook his hand and he nearly broke every bone I have in my right hand.

So I imagine he's a freight train when he put the gloves on and Levi-on-Bell, you know, I don't have much feelings positive on. his athletic ability, whatever the sport at this point. Yeah, I'd put my lease car in our rental home up for bid on the fact that Adrian Peterson takes this. I mean, do you trust that Levi-on-Bel is even training adequately? Based on history and recent years? I don't know. I don't know what he's up to.

And you know Adrian Peterson's ready. That guy would love to get back in the league, but he did not. Did he play last season? All day. He did. Oh, right. Three-sickers. I'm sorry. I apologize. Titans and Seahawks.

He had a few, he had a couple weeks. He scored a touchdown against the Rams at Sofai Stadium. What a moment. And there was a whole news story about Adrian's handshake when the Titan signed him. So I think that it was like a thing that he had. You're with us that he would take this, this bell. Oh, yeah. And that was News and Nose presented by Upwork, the world's work marketplace.

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wasn't it so great when you would for you know people who came of age in the 90s when you heard the you got mail it was like oh yes interaction oh it's someone wants to connect with me it would it would speed up your pulse it's not unlike when you're you know writing people online today and you can see that they're like typing and you know that something's coming and it's just like this is this is exciting for me let's get Gravedigger, too. I can see the look on his face. I don't know if he was around for the AOL era.

I'm talking about today's technology. Of the internet? Oh, yeah, the dot, dot, dot. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Especially if it's, you know, a certain individual. Well, I, who would that be for you? Well, I'm talking about graver.

Oh, I see, yes. Absolutely. Do you guys communicate online often, Gravedigger? Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, we text, like, normal people. Okay. Does she ever leave you hanging on red? No.

No. No, no. No, we both have. red receipts turned off, so I actually wouldn't even know if she did. I like that strategy. Interesting. Do you have yours turned off? Yes.

You have your red receipt turned off? Does everybody do that? I like to keep it transparent. Yeah. It's interesting. I know Erica talked about this on split ends, but she does it to psychologically manipulate the people she's texting. Shocker.

Oh, Ricky Hollywood. I wonder how she's doing. I actually did. text with her a little bit yesterday. Oh yeah, what's up with Ricky? She seemed to be in good spirits. Great. Yeah. Already miss her.

And then she asked me a question that I never responded to. So I'm turning the tables there to weak psychological havoc with Ricky Hollywood. That's how you do it. All right. Here we go. Let's get into it. Mailbag time. Let's start right here.

Let's see. This is kind of to both of us. from Kevin Rogers, would it be depressing or intriguing for you two to watch Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield battle for the Panthers QB job, given that your Browns and Jets once pick them to lead those teams? Sam Donald. I would say it's ironic if that's what ends up happening. Yeah, I kind of find it, it would be intriguing, actually.

The journey of those two has already been so depressing that it just comes full circle to where they're battling each other. I think that would be one of the more intriguing August plot lines. Sure. And I, you know, a couple things. And I posted it a few months back before the draft, the shot of us at the Cozy Inn in Culver City, toasting to a new era of Jets and Brown's football on draft night in 2018.

Kind of sad in retrospect. We were so overconfident, such fools and clowns. Such fools. And then there is the other take, which is a deeply unpopular take, both on this podcast and elsewhere. I still believe on some level that Sam Darnel could thrive or at least be Baker Mayfield, good Baker Mayfield with the Brown's proficient in the right setup.

And I think Baker could look as bad as Darnold did if he was with the Jets and Panthers. I still think Darnold could win that debate. As sad as that debate has now become. I appreciate your faith, but I, until proven otherwise, I think, of Darnold Moore as a bottom five quarterback. Well, I apologize for feeling that way.

It's not my quarterback anymore. This is a tough one from Mike Atkins, Mark. What's one NFL storyline this summer? No one is talking about but should be headline news. My feeling on this is that that's really not how the NFL works anymore, that everything gets dissected. And if there was a story that was a big enough story, it probably has been discussed,

but I don't know if anybody has any thought. Is there a starting quarterback coming off shoulder surgery outside of Garapolo or some type of serious rehab that's kind of going under the radar? I'm with you. I feel like the news cycle is so exhaustive. And we even on this show, I think occasionally hit news topics if we're light that really maybe wouldn't make it in a busier time. Today could be an example of that.

So I don't think that there's mystery storylines out there that fascinate me. Anything grave of that jumps to my? fine for you? I think we got it covered, basically. Maybe it's just a kind of a humble brag in a way. Got it. Like, everything that I'm trying to think of, we've at least covered on this show specifically. So I can't even, you know, like maybe the Bill's offensive coordinator situation is a bigger deal than we thought. Like, I just know for personal experience, the Titans changed offensive coordinator, Art Smith, went and got the Falcons head coaching job, and everyone in Tennessee was like, oh, we're going to run the same offense.

We're promoting from within, so it's going to be fine. And then the offense was a disaster for most of the year. I worry about that for the bills But we talked about that Like with Kyle Bryant we talked about that So I don't know that's a good point though Because it is been covered because the athletic just did a huge feature on that It was last week

But in it Kevin Gilbride who talked about the first year That he called plays for the oilers back then That you know behind the scenes he was panicking on a week to week basis Because he had never called plays at that moment And he talked about like years later Like your toolbox or your acumen and your ability In a panic situation and a tight two-minute drill to use more of your playbook came naturally.

But in that first season, it was a huge mess. And Ken Dorsey has never done this. And Brian Daibel had years and years of experience. So I think that's a fair one. All right. Let's move on. Steve Olvera asks, if you could change one play in NFL history and create a butterfly effect that would alter the current NFL landscape for all eternity,

what play would you change? You know what? This one, it kind of popped into my head pretty quickly. I would go back to, I believe it was January 1993, maybe January 92, and the Bo Jackson hip injury, he suffered in the playoffs that year with the Oakland Raiders. Bo Jackson to this January 13th, 1991 against the Bengals in the divisional playoffs. He was tackled. He kind of was the tackler grabbed his leg.

Bo Jackson lunged, and it led to a terrible hip injury that eventually fractured and dislocated hip. He had to have the hip replace. It instantly ended his NFL career. He came back eventually in baseball, the first, you know, a huge two-sport star, Bo was, but was never close to the same guy. And I, to this point in my life, I still don't think there was a more exciting, electrifying athlete than peak Bo Jackson. and what he was able to do in two sports as an all-star. So that injury, as cruel as it was, I think he was 26, 27 years old. That would be my pick.

Remember watching that game. That's a great call. I mean, that completely changed the NFL because he was one of the most electrifying, jaw-dropping athletes of our time. I'd have to go, I'd be disingenuous if I didn't, and I won't spend a ton of time on this. Ernest Biner's fumble on January 17th, 1988, in the second AFC championship against the Denver Broncos,

where they lost that game 38 to 33. They were down 21 to 3 at half in mile high. They had played their worst half of football the entire season and then came storming back to make it one of the best games of all time. And they wouldn't have gotten there to begin with without Ernest Biner, who was the kind of running back, who was such a weapon out of the backfield as a pass receiver as well, that he fits so well into that office and did everything for them.

Kevin Mack was sick at that game, so it was all on Ernest Biner to basically handle the comeback from the backfield position, and he was glorious, and he had a couple plays that I think would have changed the way that we think about him entirely, because I'm not saying he's a Hall of Famer, but Ernest Biner's fumble is the only thing most people know about him, and he went on to win a Super Bowl title with Washington, where he was an incredible, he had an incredible season. It was great that he had that moment. I'm so glad he did, and I've met him in person. He is a genuinely wonderful guy who I think learned. and taught other people about failure through that fumble and everything that happened. But I do think had they won that game, you know, they went on to, Denver went on to lose to Washington in a wipeout a couple weeks later.

I think Cleveland could have given them a much better fight. And I was in seventh grade and it destroyed my world. I was walking around middle school like a ghost for like the next two months. Sports, they could be tough as a fan. I've had moments like that myself

and you know exactly where you were when the heartbreak get you. the old Barcell's quote that he had to walk away when the losing hurt more than the winning felt good it's kind of like the sports fan experience like even when the great things have happened

those crushing losses they just kind of hang with you a little bit more all right this one from Alex Everson when is Mark's next solo holiday or vacation into a seedy motel it feels like it has been some time since he has had a non-staycation trip

yet he's still been on the hard. So this off season, I've taken a different tack. The idea that I'm staying in Citi motels is not accurate. We already clarified that they are three and four star even hotels. They are, and they're typically dotted around town. I've learned that Los Angeles is about as good of a place on a staycation as I'll go anywhere else.

And, you know, when you have kids and the whole thing going on, I'm not going to be going to India for two weeks, although Greg is in Japan. But he's, you know, I'm not going to. There's none of those type of adventures. So I like to do the little two or three-day staycations that are dotted in between our shows. And I can't talk about much that occurs on these staycations. Yeah, he can't say everything, but just understand what you're hearing right now is the soundtrack of a mark. Stay or vacation.

I'm like blasting this one out of the hotel window. What else? You got one? You got one that you grabbed from the old mailbag? Yes. If you could pick any guest to join for a podcast and after party, who would you pick and why? And I'm going to say, I'm going to add, and I don't actually, I should research. I just copied the question. So I'm sorry if you were the one that sent this out. I didn't do that research. But it could be a person of history of the past, too. I'm including anyone. They don't have to currently be alive. Okay. That's an easy one. Napoleon. Does he speak English? No, not a lick. We'll have a translator.

That would go about as well as today's guest appearance went. Yeah. How about you? I was thinking about this. This song, which was performed by the Weather Girls, do we have this, Graver? I think we do. It's raining bad. Hallelujah.

It's raining there. The Weather girls who perform this song, I think it's an underrated song. I think we could have them come on. like to have musicians on the show at time from time to time. Are they all still with us? This song came out many, many decades ago. Right, but I already said it doesn't, like, they would come back in their prime. Yeah, you've said Napoleon on the show.

I mean, you remember the night when I was not able to join you at the Cozy for New Year's, where from my house, I had the app where you could play the Cozy's jukebox, and I played this song 19 times in a row. Right. I don't know if it actually went through. No, I think that technology-wise, they got you. And they kept the money, too. But a great idea.

Yeah, it seems unfair. You know, I would like maybe Lil Debbie, you know, I would get, I'd like to maybe get Lil Debbie back on the show. I don't know if that's in the spirit of the question. I would too, because I was telling someone the other week that that was a time that, you know, I did a lot of the legwork to get her on the show, and then she came in, and I was essentially sort of starstruck and not in my personality for like the first 16 minutes. And she was as high as I called. Debbie, who's an accomplished Bay Area, I believe, rapper, and she came on the show a couple times about five years ago or so now, a big Raiders fan. Mark went alone and I think you

were like in the front row for a Lil Debbie concert. Well, there were no seats, but I covered around the room, but yes. And then she came in, and when she came in, she had, her and her associates before the show had hotboxed in their car. Hot boxed their car. And then came in and shared some goods with us, and then we had that conversation. I think it'd be cool to check in with her, especially in light of the Devante Adams' acquisition by the Raiders and everything around. You know she's tracking that very, very closely. This from Corbyn Dubois.

See, some people might say De Bois, and maybe it is, but I'm going to go with Corbyn Dubois. Well, you got the Quebec thing, right? So I'm going to trust you. Quebec? Yeah. Do you know that the Athletic NFL podcast declared that? there is now a car continuum, which feels a lot like it infringes on the Dalton scale IP. You may have to declare vengeance until you can have Nate Tice and Robert Mays on for some peacemaking. Listen, we're not the police of NFL podcasts.

And I like both these gentlemen a lot. We've had Nate on the show several times, in fact. I don't know the details of the car continuum. If it's the same of what the Dalton scale is about. if it is, so be it. It wasn't our idea anyway. It was Chris Wessling's idea. So for us to police it,

I don't even think that passes the sniff test. So have fun with your football talk, especially in the off season. Yeah, I don't have a huge amount of energy right now to add like new grudges to the lineup. Some of them that I'm involved in don't even, aren't even aware. Well, I'm not even like enjoying them. They're not necessarily fun.

So yeah, keep on, keep it on. Athletic. All right, a couple more. from Susanna H. This question a better fit here versus what does a quarterback have to accomplish to pass Tom Brady as the goat? It can't just be Super Bowl rings, right? Say you get three or four rings but are better in other metrics.

What is a hypothetical resume that could compete with Brady? Good question. Let's start here. I think you need that team success. You have to have at least, I know Brady has seven. so we're talking the conversation to me starts at five or so right and then on top of it now brady has been a monster statistical producer that's going to own every record so i not to be so obvious about it but yeah someone has got to come along come along play for 20 plus years

and combine what the greatest statistical uh buildup ever with you know a handful of rings and then some i don't know if it's going to happen though i don't see it i think it's longevity with no drop-off. And how about this? Winning Super Bowls with multiple teams. Because part of what Brady did, had he gone to Tampa Bay and they were a 10-win team the last couple years, fine. But the idea that he transformed what was a loser franchise into what they are now in one

season kind of, in a lot of people's mind, ended the chicken or egg like Belichick Brady debate to some degree. And I don't understand, number one, quarterbacks cannot control their longevity most of the most 99% of the ones. way that Brady has. Whether they want to or not, their bodies start to give up at some point. And Brady is such an outlier on that front that you'd have to play for 20 years. Who's going to do that? Yeah, the only thing I'd push back a little bit there. And what you said was that the Bucks were kind of a team losers before he got there. He was very smart. And he went to a team that was really

well set up, except for they were like hanging on to this James Winston dream, this dying dream that Winston was a true franchise leader and a quarterback. And now it gets me mad because I wish I would have said it when we did the Dalton scale conversation. And Greg was pushing Winston up the list as he always seems to do. And isn't it interesting that the Bucks went from James Winston, Mr. 30-30 season with that really strong roster around him and they didn't go anywhere to the next year. Brady comes in and they win the whole thing.

it speaks to both Winston and Brady in their careers and what they've been able to accomplish or not accomplish. So, yeah, I think that that team was a very good team that he made great. The defense was really good already. I mean, and they were really good that year, and they were really good in the Super Bowl, getting all the pressure on Mahomes. So Brady, obviously, is a huge factor

and is the kind of guy that motivates the rest of the team to play to their best level because they know they're super confident in the quarterback. but it was a really good team. Well, at that time, it was a good, it was a good setup for me. I sort of more mean the Bucks franchise historically outside of the John Gruden Super Bowl year. It's not, if I had to picture a post-Patriots jersey that Tom Brady was wearing, the Bucks were not the first team that I thought of it.

It was a strange, I thought, match, but it was the right time and he maximized it. Speaking of jerseys, I got one more here, Mark, was from M. Boucher. Some people will say butcher, but now I'm just, you know, a little future. thing. Like, I like that you're, you're getting playful with the pronunciation. This is a heat check. B-O-U-C-H-E-R. B-O-C-H-E-R. Boucher. Let's say Boucher. Hit me up, M. Boucher and tell me if I'm right. What teams need Jersey updates the most? Speaking of Tom Brady, I think the Patriots, the two teams that kind of spring to mind for me are the Patriots and the Broncos, who both had 1990s rebutes, radical reboots of their

classic logos. And if you were a sports fan or came in the age, came of age in the 90s, like I did, Mark, you came of age in the 80s, but just the 1880s. 1880s. So a lot of the 90s sports jerseys aged terribly, immediately, and eventually were replaced. I think the flying Elvis for the Patriots is obviously tricky because of Tom Brady. They won six Super Bowls with the Flying Elvis jersey. So it'd be really weird to abandon that at this point and go back to Pat Patriot and the Red, although they're going to have a throwback jersey

in a game this season. But I just think that's a superior look for them. The Broncos have never been all totally on board with their reboot. But now that I think about it, they've won three Super Bowls since 97. And that came immediately after they rebooted. out of their original classic orange crush.

So they have a similar issue with that. So one man's opinion, I'm not a big fan of those jerseys, but it's complicated by their success. I would add the Carolina Panthers. I am tired of the way they look, and I think they need a reboot. You're saying more pounding in terms of the think tank. I would pound that issue.

Yeah. You would keep pounding until someone listens. Additional pounding. Additional pounding. Do you have anything else? How about this? A player that performed, underperformed last year, that you, like money in the bank,

you have them rounding back into shape and becoming what we think they can become. Here's where I'm going with this, Lamar Jackson. Coming off an injury-plagued, messy season. Who's this from? I again did not track the name. I mean, this is, you know. Think how cool it would be if your favorite show.

How about what you answer, I will look for this? And it's obviously presumptuous of me to say that whoever sent that this is their favorite show. But obviously, it's a podcast they like enough that they sent in the question. And what a thrill it would be for you to say their name. I think you've made the point. I am looking right now for... I've been bloviating for so long that I don't even remember what the question was, Mark. What was it?

A player that had underperformed a year ago and is bound to have a rebound season. A big bounce back year. Yes. I like that one. Let's see. looking at the old and you got Lamar Jackson Yep you got a really wax poetic

because I'm cycling through these tweets here All right I'll throw it out there Alan Robinson I like that Completely disappeared in his final season in Chicago Now that you could

Depending how you look at it You can see that is That might have quit on that team a little bit But hey That was a rough team to be involved With the final year With Matt Nagy And all the struggles they had

And a rookie Justin Fields who was feeling his way through things. You know, you had late period Andy Dalton involved. It was just a tough time to be on that offense. But I think fresh start with the Rams, the defending champions,

you have in Cooper Cup, a big time number one receiver who's going to attract a lot of attention. It's possible that O'Dell Beckham returns to the fold there still. You have a great quarterback in Matt Stafford, obviously, and a great play caller in Sean McVeigh. So Alan Robinson with the season that puts them back in Pro Bowl consideration. How about that?

And I have an update. Okay. Did you even hear anything I just said? Be honest. Not a word. Okay, that's fine. Go ahead. It sounded competent, I mean, from a distance.

Okay, good. The tweet came from Alex Smith, 1-257. So either now, 1-267. The number could have an incredible amount of meeting to Alex Smith. I think it may perhaps born in. December 1967. Well, now

you're being presumptive again. Or potentially a Russian bot because I don't know too many people to do that at the end of

their tagline numbers. All right. Thank you, Alex, for the question. What a thrill it must have been to hear your name. And so you say

Lamar Jackson, I got Alan Robinson. Oh, you did. I didn't even notice that I wasn't even listening to that part of. That's a good answer. Thanks, buddy.

All right. Good. Let's close it up. Let's sign off. Perhaps for the last time. Mom just picked up phone and you heard you know when somebody

picks up the phone when you're online and the old dial up days no wayno oh can I tell you one little quick thing that happened to me that caused massive anxiety so mom I'm online total phone which was like three way

calling essentially yeah this was like seventh eighth grade and my parents had a bunch of people over and I was in my room we got a party with this for the parents that was like a dinner party with a bunch of drinking Like an eyes wide shut type situation? Well, not that I saw, but I wouldn't put it past them.

But like, I had a friend call up this girl that I liked named Robin Herman. And so my friend, like, without her knowing that I was on the line, was doing some, you know, groundwork on like this Mark Sessler. Do you think that maybe he's someone you would like to like... I'm already feeling secondhand anxiety. In the middle of this call, in the kitchen, one of the ladies that had come come over, picked up to, you know, to call home to find out what's going on with the sitter, something like that.

And all I could hear is, hey, Barb Sessler, Barb Sessler, what's going on here? It seems like someone's on the phone. I'm like, whoa, holy shit. So I basically, like, did I, everyone hung up as I think as quick as possible, but it was a totally unmasked and, but I did end up going on a few. I went to a dance with her, so it worked out in the end. And you'd have two kids together, so. That's where my daughter came from.

No, it's not true. Oh, people were curious. This is actually for my submission from the mailbag, a lot of, of people reaching out and saying it was mentioned that Mark had a 24-year-old daughter on our last episode that was kind of glossed over. Do you want to get into any specifics there? I don't think that's wise. I think we've said enough. Like Kavon-Tibberto, sometimes you just got to say, next question. Smart. Thank you to Kavon-Tibodeau, who will be back on the field and ready for training camp. You heard it here first. Please cite us

properly in the news. We'll be back on Thursday, maybe, with another episode and maybe a guest. I don't know. We'll see. Greg is in Japan. Safe journey while he's there. See you next week, buddy. But we got one more show to do, bud.

One at least. Leave that call. Welcome to This Guy Gets It with Mark Sessler. Today's episode, the National Football League's Great Debate, Artificial Turf or Natural Grass, featuring special guest, Kvon Tibadoe. And now, your host, Mark Sessler. Thank you for joining us this week. You know, for decades, pro football has been dogged by one burning question that refuses

to go away. To nobody's surprise, it is a question of plain surface. 16 NFL teams operate on real grass, the other 16 wage battle on artificial turf. This, of course, raises an ethical question. Is it proper to ask players to perform on artificial surfaces when they could perform their duties on Bermuda grass, Kentucky bluegrass, or even swaths of deso grassmaster? Kavon, where do you come down on this pivotal issue that we must confront? I'm a grass guy. I think I'll always be a grass guy. We are from nature. we come, you know, we are a natural being. So I think performing everything on grass is just the smartest, safest way to go.

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