NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Latest news & Coaches Awards

Episode Date: January 21, 2015

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- React to the latest NFL news including Gary Kubiak’s hiring and Bill Belichick’s comments on Russell Wilson. Plus, the guys review the latest coaching hires with a new awards show.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the 6th, we take you inside the game from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sunday. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Around the NFL podcast is all football, no narrative. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hanses, and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosenthal.

What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. What is happening? I hope you guys are proud of yourselves about what happened earlier today during the swag pick-up. I'm shocked that this came up in the podcast. It took you all of 15 seconds. We got a walkout. Every year there's a giveaway of Super Bowl memorabilia and T-shirts and things that the employees get.

And I was finishing up a Gary Kubiak post for Greg. And the four of us sit in a pod. It's not gregg.com. It's NFL.com. And I say, I said to the group, Gary Kubiak speaks, the world needs to know. I said to the group, I said, hey, swag day, today's the swag bag day. Greg shoots up out of his chair.

And it's, oh, let's go get it before we go lunch. They start walking away. And I said, hey, give me, give me like a minute. I need to tweet out this Kubiak story, left without me. Well, I didn't know that you... Well, the boss issued an order, so what do you want? I didn't know you requested to wait for you. Then I wouldn't have left.

But the whole point was we were all going to be going to lunch. together. And so I figured this is something we need to get out of the way before we all go to lunch together. I'm just going to go do that. I didn't know that we all had to walk in unison at all times. Let the record show that I pointed out, knowing the last time this happened

at lunch, the first walkout. Yep. Yeah. It's not the first time I was left behind. I knew there would be repercussions if we didn't leave, if we left you behind. So I held the door open for a while. Yeah. And then I saw those guys going through the other door. So I kind of left you behind. West just throwing us under the bus. A couple

I just admitted. I left him behind. Greg, you should know I'm motivated mostly by slights and perceived slights. And I also know, because I was watching it the whole time, I was scanning. And I said Greg's leading the charge out. And it speaks to a bigger issue with Greg. I wasn't worried. While we're here, we're all going to lunch together two minutes later. If we're going to put it out there, this is a culture that Greg's created. Remember before Greg came and somebody would sneeze in the cubicle and someone would say, bless you? When Greg came, people stopped saying bless you. Now you're insane. Do you really want to? in your defense, Chris, Chris did bring up, he was a little worried, and Mark also had some, it seems like some consternation. Do you want to be known? Well, because we're going to hear about it for the next three weeks. You want to be known as the guy that everyone feels like you have to walk around on eggshells. No. The D word did come up a few times. Okay. You know.

Dude. You told that you, you actually said recently, you don't want to be coddled. You know, we were just walking over there, walking back. I didn't know it was a thing. It hurt. It hurt, and I even made a point that, oh, this is my first grab bag, my employment status change within the company recently, and I was excited to do it with you guys, and you left me behind. I think what you're talking about here is a general breakdown in values. Thank you, Wes. By the way, we were just getting in line to pick up something.

And then I had to deal with this indignation of getting on the line and being four spots behind you guys. And who, and what happened then? You came back, Mark, and joined me, but then you shot a couple daggers at me. Well, I just chewed a couple daggers at you. Well, I thought your behavior was a little bit ill-conceived. Because you're such a sweet guy, Mark, you knew it was bad, but you let the bully, Greg, leave the charge.

And you had guilt and then you hit out at me. This is where if this were in writing, there'd be an asterisk. And it would say you go to the bottom of the page. 15 minutes later, Wes, Dan, and Greg have no problem leaving to go to lunch while Mark writes a post on Mark Trestman. Boom. And this proves my point. Nobody had a problem with anything. You said to go.

You said for us to go, though. Absolutely. But it's like no one would have said, wait a minute, but that's not gentlemanly enough. Let's sit and wait for Mark to write his Mark Treasman post. Then we'll all go have lunch together if it's so important that we do everything together all the time. My hope thing was we were about to go all walk over and have lunch together anyways. So I was just getting this thing out of the way. It was like going to the bathroom before lunch.

But it was like the football gods the other day punished Mike McCarthy for not being aggressive. And you know what? The football gods, he heard the storm. going around our desk, and you know where I'm going with this, Dan, I think. The minute we got back, or just before we got back, a few minutes ahead of you, Dan, because you were behind in line. Yeah, you left again. Big breaking news happened.

And if we're all gone, Mark Tressman got the job here with Baltimore. If we're all gone there together, no one at the NFL is on the desk to start that Mark Tressman is going to Baltimore, and the world waits for it. We've got a job here to do. Mark jumped on that right away, and I think that was the football God's telling me. me you made the right decision by the way i was that's all good that's all good do you know what the best line of this whole thing was what gregg saying do you think we should plan our lives around your 13 year old girl mentality which by the way is sexist while greg is while we're here that was

sexist and i was so stunned by the betrayal that when i went into the room you know like in the movies where uh the person their bomb goes off and the person like loses their like way and all they Here is like the ear piercing sound. That's all they got. I'm in that room looking for this gear, and I couldn't even understand what was happening. I didn't know what's happening. I just don't know where this ends. Like, do we all, should we all go to the bathroom together?

You know? No, I mean, that would be gross. Should I walk you out to your car every day? This is the sound that I heard when I was trying to go through, pick out my Super Bowl gear. Lost all my senses, wobbling around. The lady looked at me like, are you? okay. At least somebody had concern for you today. I don't think you can handle free stuff from the NFL. We probably shouldn't send you back. I'm just saying it wasn't the best moment. And by the

way, Greg, when people sneeze, you should say bless you. Or Zoom tight, whatever. I say bless you. Or Reggie Jackson. Let's get into the rest of the podcast. Listen, we're all everything. There's a Webster episode. West, that's showing up the year 30 years ago. He got mad at God because his mom and dad died, so he used to say Reggie Jackson when somebody sneezed. I have to admit, I probably never noticed when people sneeze because I'm a space cadet. You would know that sitting next to me. I'm always watching. Everything is about 10 seconds

later entering my brain. Okay. All right, we got passes. It's good that we talked about it. What the hell? I can't believe it took TD so long to drop that. All right, this is our second to last show

before we head to Arizona. So this is going to be a news-heavy show. We got a lot to get to. And then we're going to hand out some awards. We decided what to call this, Wes? hiring awards something like that yeah this sounds good the coach hiring and firing awards

the new hire awards the new hire awards there you that sounds good that's okay it's workable so we'll get to that after the news but let's let's start with the news

there's just so much to get to right now so let's get to some news buddy come on TD there's a party up in here wahoo that is Indy Sarah's little girl Who sent a sound clip recently of her girl

I wish I knew the daughter's name Do you know? Ellie is her name Ellie, very good Taddy up in here Wahoo Star in the making guys Very good TD you're going to be a great father one day

You know that He might already be a father We don't know anything That got a huge laughter Out of Zach Maybe Zach knows something that we don't All right let's start Let's start

Let's start with Gary Kubiak, who was introduced on Tuesday as the 15th head coach in Denver Bronco's history. He takes over for John Fox, who left, I guess there was a decision made that they would part ways amicably. And now Gary Kubiak comes on. He was former teammate of John Elway for many years, was the Ravens offensive coordinator last year, and now he joins the Broncos. And this was kind of an interesting press conference, guys, because despite it being Gary Kruy, Kubiak's introductory press conference,

John Elway was at the podium for the same amount of time, if not more than Kubiak, which to me just hammered at the point that, yes, Kubiak's the new coach, but Elway is the boss and everything runs through him, and that's where we're at with that organization right now. It's like when the

dolphins hired Bill Parcells to be their football czar, and then nobody paid attention to Tony Spirano and Jeff Ireland because Parcells was overseen old time. How did that work out? But I don't know if you can blame Parcells for that. How it worked out was that Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland no longer speak. It hammered home for me, I think again, something.

John Elway, who from the age of like 12 on has been told, you're the center of the universe, you're the starting quarterback. You know what, this guy, you want to talk. I don't think Dan is, you can't call Dan a diva when John Elway exists on this planet. Because Elway the other day, number one, opens up. A little brown seat, by the way. seeping through. No, no, no. You know, it opens up the press conference the other day by calling John Fox

John Elway when he thanks essentially himself. That was an honest mistake. All right, fair enough. But then today... That was a pretty amazing though, Freudian slip. And back to back. But as Dan points out, he completely overshadows Gary Kubiak's introductory press conference. And what this is is a guy, he felt a little burned. I think there

was a lot of difference of opinion where people said, you know, John Elway, your opinion might not be the only thing in the building. We might want to question it. You know what, John Fox? You're out. I'm going to get someone in here who's my old pal who understood all along that his role was number two to my number one, and he's not going to question Elway, and it's going to hurt the Broncos. Are you calling Gary Kubiak a flunky to John Elway? Yes, I am.

I mean, I don't think Gary Kubiak is that at heart, but that's the dynamic that's going on right here. Well, he literally was the backup for years. I mean, you can't. Except for when he was the offensive coordinator and they won Super Bowl. He is also a coach that went through a transition of a superstar quarterback, retiring into the next phase. I give Kubiak credit, I mean, Elway credit that when they asked him, they tried to put him on the spot with a question about, you know,

why did you go through all this rigamarrold, interview other coaches? Wasn't it Kubiak all along? And he was just like, yeah, he was the top of the list the whole time. This was my plan the whole time. It was basically just a question if Kubiak wanted to do it, and he did. He has this vision of the Broncos as this seamless team that's existed since he was a player. and tradition, and Kubiak is the guy to bring that. And I'm not sure if Kubiak's a great head coach,

but he does have a defined skill set and a defined offense that works, and that's more than a lot of head coaches have. So I don't really have a huge problem with it. It might be more than John Fox has. Football head question, is Gary Kubiak's offense a good fit for what Peyton Manning does and the offenses he's run in his career? I think all we can do is speculate on that. I mean, everything Gary Kubiak's ever run has needed a mobile quarterback.

Joe Flacco is a lot more mobile than people than he's perceived to be. But then Kubiak and, you know, his former players swear on their grave that he can change his offense if he needs to. I mean, Matt Schaub's not exactly Randall Cunningham out there. So he ran a very successful Texans offense with a limited quarterback and a quarterback that really wasn't that mobile. I know they did a lot of boots and everything like that. I thought the answer on Manning today was interesting that he's talked to Manning and they're going to listen to Manning and they're just waiting. And Kubiak made it clear we're going to make an offense around Peyton Manning

if he wants to play. So I do think the conspiracy theorists that believe this is always way of pushing Manning out the door or saying you're not in control here, I don't know if I really buy that. I think they want Manning back. I think he's just they're also bringing a coach and potentially look beyond whatever Manning's decision is, which is not a terrible idea. And if you're Gary Kubiak or any head coach and you can't shift your offense to fit Peyton Manning, if he's coming back for one year, then you're in the wrong position anyways. I mean, you're not going to take Peyton Manning

and put him on endless rollouts. That's absurd. I mean, they'll have to shift it. This is the tough, the toughest job, though. It's the opposite of what Parcells did every year when he just picked the good-looking 2 and 14 team that's easy to revive. He's got a team where the bar has been established. If you lose in the Super Bowl and then you lose as a team that gets a buy, you're getting fired, and you might not have Peyton Manning next year.

It's like, this is an impossible job. All right, moving on. Let's talk, Greg, deflategate. Yeah, deflate gate. I thought we agreed we were going to stop throwing gate on the end of every controversy. I didn't know. I didn't know that.

I don't even know why do people say gate is just because of water gate? Yeah, simply that. Like, how did that end up being tacked on everything? Because it was one of the, like, pivotal historical moments that represented, you know, controversy and basically government breakdown, and so it got tacked on from there. Probably more generously, more recently than it did right after it happened. I think we've learned by now that sports writers aren't creative, original thinkers.

Oh, Wes. Are you throwing yourself in that bunch? I mean, this is not the most creative industry. All right. Anyway, Wes, you could talk that out at the Super Bowl when you see all these guys in person. Bill Belichick is denying that the Patriots had anything to do. do with deflating balls or insists he knew nothing about it until Monday morning. His quote, will cooperate fully with whatever the league wants, whatever questions they ask us.

And then Tom Brady laughed it off when he was on his Boston radio show as he is every week. I think I've heard it all at this point. That's the last of my worries. I don't even respond to stuff like this. Gentlemen, I don't know. It doesn't seem like a big deal, but isn't it weird that this stuff continues to just follow around the Patriots. There's always something new about Patriots and something tied to sportsmanship. There's a lot of smoke. A lot of smoke, Greg.

And it often comes after beating the Colts in an AFC championship. I mean, rules were changed when they beat the Colts in the AFC championship back in 2003 or 2004. Pollian goes crazy. They basically made defense of holding a rule of emphasis after that. I mean, it is bizarre. I didn't know anything about the whole deflating football phenomenon. Apparently, it's a thing.

Didn't it start with Peyton Manning? Well, Peyton Manning pushed for the rules to be relaxed in terms of being able to deflate them a little because I guess you can get a better grip on the ball. So now there's a minimum and a maximum. And Aaron Rogers says there shouldn't be a maximum. I've learned a lot about these rules this week. So correct me if I'm wrong here.

What you're saying is that the Indianapolis Colts are the tattletails of the NFL. No, I mean, I don't know what they're going to find here. I have a feeling they're not going to, even if they did find anything serious, it's not going to be. It's hard to prove. It's not going to give them, like, take away draft fix. The report from Newsday and Bob Glauber was that DeQuell Jackson intercepted one of Brady's passes, and he thought it was a little deflated, so he gave it to the coach who then gave it to the officials.

And that was in the second quarter. After halftime, you know, they blew the Colts out. So I don't know what's happening. The officials hold the ball every play. You can see it on TV. Could have been playing with a beach ball. It wouldn't have mattered. I'm just saying they literally hold the ball

before every single play and put it on the ground. They didn't think it was a problem. Snitches get stanchetches. Don't you feel like any time someone gets caught for something, there's probably half the other league is doing this, if not the rest of the league in general? These coaches float around from team to team. And like the Patriots invented this.

But it's weird that all these things always come back to the Patriots. Did I miss anything, SpyGate, receiver-eligible gate? Well, unless you're Josh McDaniels that went to Denver and got nailed for the same thing, yeah. Is there anything else? Was there another? Those are three things. Well, this defensive holding thing, it wasn't like they were cheating, but they essentially complained. I'll call that holding gate.

Defensive holding gate. Tuck gate. Tuck gate. Gate gate. So, yeah, whatever, Greg. I mean, your team is a bunch of cheaters. Give me a break. It's a flake.

I didn't know it. Greg, if you're okay with that, we're okay with it. I didn't know it was such a thing. More like the thing you need to get past, not us. The quarterback sanded the balls. They sand down the laces. They mark them up, but it's a whole thing. Every team has their own set of balls,

but the officials check them ahead of time. That's the part I don't. I don't really get. It would be hard to prove. So people are going to get away when nobody would care. Well, someone said another quarterback, and now I'm forgetting who it was, was that when it's,

cold and raining, like the balls just deflate naturally just a little bit. I mean, not, they thought it was just a product of nature. Of freezing? Right. Exactly. That's what she said. Moving on. So I'll tell you, I'll use

a line from Mark Sessler here. Opening a post he wrote this morning. It didn't take long for the Baltimore Ravens to unearth Gary Kubiak's replacement. Mark Trussman buried in the ground but dug up, still alive thankfully, hired his offense coordinator after spending the past two seasons.

as head coach of the Bears. He's now the Ravens O.C. And Mark Trusman came to the Bears as the great quarterback whisperer. Whisperer Gate, it turned into, because it didn't really work out with Cutler. But now he goes to work with Joe Flacco. It seems like a nice spot. I'm just glad we know about this story before the podcast.

If it was up to Dan, we'd still be in line waiting for Chotchkees or whatever. Don't let your guilt drive the show. I don't think I wrote that he was under the ground. Well, you said unearth. Okay. but the second part was not... I don't know if he was that hard to find, I guess, is Dan's point.

Well, you know what? This is like the 14th coordinator, you've got to start rewriting these leads to some degree. As Wes noted, we're not that creative, so... Right. No, you are. You're the... You're the exception.

You love Trisman. I remember a couple years ago, you had a big crush on him because he writes his name the same way as you. I went beyond that. That was big. You know, again, misquoted on some level. He has a history with the Harbaugh's. Jim Harbaugh.

said once that Mark Tressman taught him everything he knew when they were Raiders assistants together. He also called the Bears' hiring of Tresman a grand slam. Don't you think this is a great fit? I think it's terrific. I have major questions about it. I mean, I think the world of Tresman is an offensive mind, but that offense was turned around because of Gary Kubiak's work on the offensive line

in the running game with his own blocking scheme. I don't know that Mark Tressman's going to have a good run. game? The better hire would have been Kyle Shanahan, and they were interested in him, and that didn't happen, and that would have just been a complete, seamless it would have like you didn't even hire a new coordinator. It would have been continuity, and

what it is for Joe Blackwood's three offenses in three years. But I do think that Tressman has done a good job, outside of Cutler, and he's not, Cutler's not the first guy, trust not the first guy to get whacked by Cutler here. Tresman's done a good job everywhere he's gone with different quarterbacks in Flacco, I think, is a much better product

to work with. Rich Gann and Steve, Young and Scott Mitchell swear by him, gave them all their best year. Bernie Cozor. And Tresman was with the Raiders and was a coordinator, 01 to 03, were they doing zone block? I mean, it is a West Coast type of system, so maybe they can't have some continuity. Maybe I do hope for the Ravens' offense and their fans for whatever it's worth that they do just keep Kubiak system as much as possible because that's the best Ravens' offense ever in franchise history. I mean, it's never looked better. That's why it was such a big loss for him to go.

All right, let's move on. Mark, you mentioned Kyle Shanahan. It's looking like almost a slam dunk now that the Atlanta Falcons will hire Shanahan as their offensive coordinator. And Dan Quinn, the Seahawks defensive coordinator as their next head coach. They have to wait, of course. The Seahawks have to play the Super Bowl. And then after the deal gets done. But a nice little pairing here, Dan Quinn and Kyle Shanahan taking over the Atlanta Falcons, to me,

it's got a lot more zest to it than a Mike Smith-led unit. I think it's great. I mean, for me, number one, it starts with Shanahan and Matt Ryan. It's a major upgrade from going from Brian Hoyer and Johnny Mansell. If you're Kyle Shanahan, I think he did that for his own career longevity. And Quinn, I mean, Quinn was the hot candidate last year as well that people didn't want to wait around for. And I don't have a problem with, I don't understand all the people that have issues with teams waiting. an extra week or two to get the right guy.

A month from now, who cares? Right, it's the teams that seem to have the issue that they're just, they just can't wait, that they just have to get it done. They feel like you can't wait these extra three weeks. It just seems crazy. In your bowl week, is that why? Because the Jets, a lot of people talk Todd Bowles, that they wanted Quinn and then they went to balls and maybe it was because they didn't

want to wait. And I read that one of the major concerns is if you wait that long, you really struggle to put together a good staff behind the coach. So maybe that's the main reason why. But in the Falcons case, they're going to get. a guy in Kyle Shanahan that's a respected guy, but one thing on Shanahan, and Mark, maybe you can jump in because he was with the Browns last year. Why people get so excited about Kyle Shanahan? What has he really done to show himself as a really good offensive coordinator?

I think it's very similar to what we just talked about with Kubiak, which is that it's that zone blocking scheme. In Cleveland's running offense went from a league low four touchdowns in 2013 to fourth in the league with 17 last year. It's a run-based offense. They've got to get some running backs in Atlanta, but Shanahan is a very creative play caller that when he gets in a rhythm too, he gets deadly. I love this pairing. Dan Quinn was my favorite candidate out there, and of course we're ignorant about what he's going to do as a head coach.

It's all a leap of faith with these guys, but first time head coaches, and you're bringing in an offensive mind like Kyle Shanahan, and here's why I love the hire, Dan. Yes. When he was with Kubiak in Houston, the years that Shanahan ran the offense were by far their best years as an offense. He got the best out of Matt Schaubb. He goes to the Redskins, slow plays the entire league in the preseason, then unearths a masterpiece for Robert Griffin's rookie season. He's shown that he can run basically three or four different kinds of offenses. The pistol, the boot action. He did all-play action with Brian Hoyer turned him into a viable starter,

which, I mean, you know, by the softball pants, bet, that that shocked me that Brian Horace was turned into a viable starter. I love everything Kyle Shanahan's ever done as an offensive coordinator. And like the old coordinators, the annoying ones, that we're going to take our system, bring them to a team, and stuff players into the only offense we know, Shanahan is flexible. He's going to go make offense, the offense in Atlanta work around the players. I totally agree.

And it's not just that he's good with quarterbacks. And it's not just that he has a great running game. He has both of them. And the only exception was when RG3 was rushed back from an injury. Any of the thoughts on this gentleman? No, these guys, they haven't nailed. Oh, yeah. I like it.

Great work, gentlemen. Thank you. The Bears have found their new defensive coordinator. His name is Vic Vangio. Van Gio, of course, was the D.C. of the Niners. Now he takes over a bear's defense along with John Fox. Your thoughts on this. Greg, your turn.

Take the floor. Why is it my turn? It's just your turn to talk about it. I'll take another one. People are all excited about Vic Vanjee. He did do a good job in San Francisco. It's a very creative defense to watch. They don't have any talent there.

But I think of all the defensive coordinators that were out there, he probably has the most sizzle just in terms of like he's the most fun to watch. If you're a fan of your team and you want to see a creative, aggressive type of defense, he's your guy. Top five defense every year he was in San Francisco, including this year, when he lost all pro Alden Smith, all pro Patrick Willis, all pro Navarro Bowman. turned Antoine Bethay into a star, turned Parrish Cox and Chris Culliver into a great

cornerback duo, and he's bringing along secondary coach Ed Donatel, I believe. I think that's a great pairing, and really the bears are going to have to go to a three-four, I would imagine, because that's what Fongio's always run, and had the best linebacker core of all time in New Orleans as their linebackers coach with Ricky Jackson, Patrick Swilling, Vaughn Johnson, and Sam Mills, and then goes to San Francisco and has the second best, or rivaling the Saints for the best linebacker core of all time. So I think you should look for the Bears to take an edge rusher outside linebacker in the first round of the draft.

I like that John Fox, who's in theory a defensive-minded coach, he's really turned into that coach that's like that's not going to be his defense. It's going to be Vic Fangio's defense. He's not afraid to admit like he doesn't need to be running the defense at this point. He hires someone that can do it for him. He just kicks back and has a few beers. About time. And finally, we had back to Bill Belichick, who last week we heard him praising Andrew Luck.

I think he called him a sixth wide receiver at one point, said he was God's gift to football. Now he's praising Russell Wilson. Anybody picking up a pattern here? He says he's similar to Roger Staubeck. Russell Wilson is. Here's Belichick's quote during a Tuesday conference call. I can't really put it into words. Well, you've got to think about Belichick.

I can't really put it into words. Wilson just got an instinct of this. He just knows where people are. It looks like he's going to get tackled when he doesn't. It kind of reminds me of watching Stobab. No one can hear you right now, by the way. Yeah, the listeners can't even hear you. You think he doesn't see him, but he sees them or someone knows that they're there.

Well, that's an ideal Belichick. That's a nice job by Dan right there. If you know what Belichick's saying, you know what I just said. It's not as an offense of some guy on Twitter was not happy with one of your imitations. Do you know what I'm talking about? I don't even remember what it was. Henry's, I believe. Oh, no, Richard Sherman.

Was it? I don't remember you, Richard Sherman. I miss that. Yeah. I don't remember my Richard Sherman. Well, the Belichico file should be out, because this is a... Richard Sherman, though. You, my, bra?

Belichick can get engaged. That's the... Yeah, my, blah. Yeah, that one. I don't think that went over, so... Maybe. I disagree. When you get Belichick talking about history, and you get him talking about the Naval Academy

and his boyhood idol, Roger Stobach. He grew up on the campus of the Naval Academy, seeing Stoback play every day. To compare his hero, and the guy, if you watch the Staubach football life, I believe it was, basically Belichick thinks Stobach's the greatest player of all time, greatest quarterback, or it's his favorite player of all time, to call Russell Wilson that, to remind him of that, that's quite a compliment. This wasn't just coach speak. He went into specifics of why he adores the way Russell Wilson plays. And to me, Bill Belich, I know this is going to sound like a ludicrous statement,

has the most comprehensive football knowledge of any man who's ever walked to. face of the earth. We've, I mean, he's a bipedal football encyclopedia. He has the largest library in the world of American football, according to Peter King, and he's the father of a guy. On the campus of the Naval Academy, yeah, he's just gushing right now. This is great. He's the son of a man who is thought by many to be the greatest scout in NFL history.

So he's basically looking at game film when he was eight years old, tailing, tailing his father around and catching passes from Roger Stalbach. This is high praise. Throne of ease. Well, look, this Roger Stalbuck wannabies on the other team, you know. He's a nice young player. It sounds like he's just, you know, getting, filling his mind up, Russell Wilson's mind up, and just siking him out,

just like you do with Andrew Lowe, who dropped a 12 for 33 for 126 and 2 picks after Belichick pumped him up. I think Russell Wilson's too cagey, though, to buy into Parcell's, I think what Belichick's saying is that, Russell Wilson has this it factor that we wouldn't that we would never talk about that we almost laugh about because it's really hard to quantify I would never laugh at the effect of talking about it factor I think that's a sense I think that's how what he's saying about Russell Wilson that the playing the quarterback what about Tom Brady well he's got that too but in a different way but that quarterback position is about leadership it's about making the right plays at the right time it's about some of it is undefinable and it's athleticism I mean he's talking about that in terms of getting away from the defensive ends and still making a play. And I think that's where he sees the comparisons. When people talk about Stobach, that's how they talk about Stobach.

They weren't exactly sure how he always got it done, but he did. Greg, you're the boss. I'm sorry to correct you, but I've been saying that since day one, baby. Since day one about Russell Wilson. That's not a correction. What do you mean? You said, no, we don't talk about it. I know you're talking about the guys in front of the glass, but I've been saying it since day one.

I think I've heard you call Russell Wilson a point guard. Yeah, I have, yeah. Which is a great... Oh, about the It fact, I've even saying, not since Roger Stobach. Well, that's exactly what Belichick is saying, next level awareness, that he has peripheral vision, and he sees windows like Larry Bird saw windows of passing. Right, and I think, well done, T, D.

I know this might shock you, T, D, but it means a little more coming from one of the greatest football coaches of all time than it does from a guy that, you know, is producing this podcast. Who's counting there? But wait, Larry Bird was a, what, a small forward? He was a power forward and small. forward. I'm losing trouble. It was a point in forward.

Football and basketball is confusing. I think it's a great way to get that in Brady's head and say, wait a minute, you're calling the opposing quarterback, Roger Stauback, two weeks before you and I, coach Belichick, try to cement our legacy. What am I, Blaine Gabbard? Right. All right. And that's what's happening. All right, guys.

So, yeah, we talked a lot about coaches in the news, but listen, that's a big part of the season. and we're going to get way into the Super Bowl and those teams and that end of it starting with Thursday show and then the two shows leading up to the Super Bowl and then of course the recap shows you're going to get plenty of Super Bowl talk but let's do a little more coaching.

In fact, these are the first annual... Are we doing a coach's show? You know what? You and your coaches show, T.D. Wow. Everything revolves around the coaches show. It's all about the coaches show, baby. Great show this week.

Your solar system is the coaches show as the sun. And then we're some, like, distant galaxy that got, isn't even counted as a planet anymore. What did they talk about in their 12 minutes? We're the intramidist, right, yeah, their 15-minute podcast. We've seen the light. We've seen the future, and we know that the coaches' podcast is no longer going to be around anymore. We want to fill that hole. Really?

Breaking news. Coach the show is still around, and it's hosted by a Super Bowl-winning coach. I'm just saying, you know? Sometimes when we get into the studio here, we see the shackles that you've, put on them to keep them here to do the show, too. Just think how upset Brian Billick. You've got to clean those up before we come in. Think how upset Billick or Mariucci would be if they knew that this podcast existed.

Oh, they'd be furious. It's heard anything. It's like they don't know there's any other podcast, I would assume. Have they ever asked, do they know the show exists? Of course not. No way. The good news is I don't really know their show exists either. So it's kind of, it seems irresponsible.

It exists for six and a half minutes every week. 25-minute show guys Do they do the whole show looking at their watches? I'll have you know Brian Villick was great this week he's put his feet up on his table at home and it's broke down the game

Pack and Seahawks from a coaching point of view like it was great stuff guys awesome stuff. That's great, that's great but this is not the coach's show this is the new coach awards the new hire awards the NHAs

the NHAs we're working on the title Maybe next year we'll have one down. So I've got some categories here, gentlemen, and some winners. And I just realized just now that I guess I'll have to pick a winner, but you could argue with me. It's fun. That's the debate that a podcast is born upon.

ATL Debate Club was the original name of this podcast, so it's still in us. It's in the DNA. Here we go. First category, gentlemen, the higher most doomed for failure. I'm going to start negative right off the top. I love doing that. And your nominees are. Jim Tom Sula, San Francisco 49ers, Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders, Gary Kubiak, Denver Broncos, Rex Ryan, Buffalo Bills.

And your winner. Jim Tom Sula? Wait, you just get to decide the winner? Well, I said I'll announce a winner and you guys could argue with me now. Thanks for listening to me, Greg. Agree? The biggest train wreck press conference slash appearance on a local show

I've ever seen in a 24-hour span. Can we play that? T-D., let's play that. You and me talking. Just give me a name that you think would be good as an offensive coordinator. What if I throw a name out there? Mark Trussman. He invented a new language at one point.

Yes, he did. During that answer. Poor Handsome Hank, his buddy, Tom Sula. Handsome Hank's belief in Tom Sula is helping me give him a little bit of a long. longer leash. Yeah, I want to see how this goes. Maybe he's not so great with the media.

I trust Hank's judgment on these things, and he says he's a genuinely great person, and he's respected by his players. But sometimes, I don't know, that first day on the job, it seemed like, well, they plucked the defensive line coach and put him in the big chair, and maybe he's not supposed to be in the big chair. Well, the problem is, like, his coach,

all you hear is players love him, and that's from top to bottom. They're excited about him being elevated. But the role of head coach is not just teaching. It's, you've got to be out front with the media. And if the Niners don't start six and two, like they do almost every year under Jim Harbaugh, and let's say they start three and six, and they're starting to ask Tom Sulla tough questions. And all we get is the stuff we've got during what we've seen them so far in the media,

you're failing at half your job. You have to be the figurehead and basically the voice of what's happening. And that's a huge part of the role. Being loved is overrated. I mean, Rex Ryan's loved his career record is under 500. Well, Bucky Brooks told us in the lunchroom the other day, basically, listen, if you are, if things start one and three, if they start ugly, all that love goes away real fashion, about everyone's careers here. And Quinn Bolden had a quote where he said he didn't think Tom Sulla, and he meant it as a compliment,

but he said he didn't think Tom Sulla would be as tough on them as Harbaugh, and that sounded nice to him. But as a fan, you're kind of thinking, oh, is that good? For all the Dave Campo vibe that Tom Sulla is giving off here, as a guy who's coming in after a great coach and is probably going to, I don't know, It seems like a guy who's going to be an afterthought in a decade. I think the easy answer here is that Jack Del Rio is the worst hire. And look, I mean, it was uninspired anyway. And then he hires Bill Musgrave, who was one of the most unimaginative offensive coordinators you could find, oversaw the development of Byron, Leftwich, and Christian Ponder.

Two first-round, early first-round draft picks does not bode well for developing Derek Carr. The only caveat there is you're the Raiders, and you just not. need to win a few more games to buy yourself time. Why don't they just consolidate franchises with a Jaguars? The category was what? Most likely to fail? Higher most doomed for failure. The Raiders have failed for a decade, so I think Del Rio is a strong pick.

He was nominated. Cubiac needs to be a strong choice because you're talking about a team that skyrocketing to the Super Bowl, multiple playoff appearances under Peyton Manning. You might not have Manning. This could be the Brian Greasy Broncos that Mike Shanahan had to go out on. How about Rex Ryan getting off? the hook here. He, a lot of people said he was the favorite to win this award.

He's got tough competition for this award. He's got tough competition. He's got good talent on that team. His charisma will carry him long after they suck and people realize it. A couple of years. It's getting ready to be on. That's why. Yeah, exactly. All right, next award, next category. The best ghosts from the past, and this is someone that was kind of forgotten, and all of a sudden they popped up and they're back on the grid and they got a job or might be getting a job.

Here we go. The nominees are Mike Martz. the Cleveland job he's been connected to. Eric Mangini, interviewing for a decorinator role. Where is that? In Oakland. Oh, that's about right. Mike Shanahan, who's floating around trying to get back in the league. Mike Holmgren, your boy, Mark, and Mike Singletary.

A lot of Mike's here. A shot at this. And the winner is. I asked, sorry, I asked this a damage check two when we do the Sheckys. What's with the sound effect of ripping a paper? Oh, you're opening the envelope. Yeah, but you don't have a here. it though doing a broadcast you never hear a rip in or open paper i could drop it i like

i thought i thought it was fun i like it he's also a little bit of a little bit of a he's actually opening an envelope here with stuff inside of yeah that's the other thing way to ruin the illusion of the show tv it's an anticipation level there i like it thank you all right and the winner is mike shanahan whoa a little bit of an upset here mike wants back in and no everybody's like Everybody's like, no, no, of course not. I feel like that's agents, the agents getting involved. But there was that interest in him, though. Mike Martz will never coach again.

Shanahan was a little weird. It was like, yeah, we're going to interview Shanahan for the 49ers job because we happened to be in Denver that day. And, you know, Shanahan is a good lunch spread at his house every day. You know, it was like it was a little, it was unclear what he was interviewing for. No, seriously. Like they happened to be in Denver and like, oh, we're there, we'll swing by like they were in the name.

Seriously, it was unclear if whether it was for like a head coaching job or where they were just kind of picking his brain about different people. You pointed that out West a week ago. I think that it's a lot more of the latter. It's you talk to 10, 15 people and get any sort of information about your own team's problems before you find the pick. I got the sense that some teams were looking at him in a general manager type of rule or footballs are, which makes absolutely no sense because he's one of the worst general managers. I mean, every time he's been a coach slash GM, he's failed. Shanahan, the GM always killed Shanahan the coach.

And I think he did in Washington. Ultimately, I think he was the one picking the players. Same with Mike Holmgren. Mark, your thoughts on the report connecting Marts to the Browns? Won't happen. Is there any way that happens? I hope it doesn't happen. I will bet you a sandwich right now.

It absolutely doesn't happen. Do you have any information on this or something? You seem confident. I'm deadly confident. I feel like you're just desperate for it not to happen. I'm not desperate. I'm guaranteeing you it will not happen. Do you have any kind of info or theories on why they actually

brought him in. No, I don't, but that's, because they did very odd things last year when they were looking to fill their head coaching role, even while they were heat seeking towards Petten at the end during the senior bowl week. Reports floated up with them talking to other people. I, I do, I can promise you it won't be Marks. It's, it's funny. I was saying this to Greg a week ago or so that the Browns are kind of like the screw up brother-in-law that you're really rooting for to get it together and he keeps messing up and you root for him. And then Mark, I look at you, you're like, I'm talking, it's your brother and you're my wife, but you're kind of like

my work wife, and you're like, man, why is he such a screw-up? Why are the Brown such screw-ups? They can't do, why are they getting a new offense and again and again and again? They did screw up, and I think that they're a team that's not figured out how to operate on a week-to-week basis when you hear about,

you know, employees texting stuff that was annoying Shanahan. One little thing about Shanahan, I mean, this is a guy that you hear also he's not the easiest person on the planet to work with. drama wherever he's gone. Right. And so, you know, it's a little, maybe it was just a bad soup. And I think that Shanahan wants, or Petten wants someone he can trust, but it won't be

Mark. But they're getting filled up here, these offensive coordinator jobs. Like, who are you hoping for? It almost always starts at the top, Mark. Don't you think? Yeah, I do. I mean, I do. Absolutely. Yep. By the way, another, another lesson to be learned in life that you could learn through following football, pulling your pants down in the middle of your workplace. It's going to hurt you in the future, Mike Sincletary. It's hard to recover for that.

In any line of trade. In most lines of trade. What about the guy who rushed onto the field in Seattle? That guy deserves a raise wherever he works. But he probably got fired too. It's kind of the point. All right, next category. This one's kind of connected to the previous category.

This is the comeback coach slash executive of the year award, guy that was kind of out of the mix, and now he landed a job, and he's back on his feet, and who knows what comes next. Your nominees, Steve Spagnola, the defensive coordinator, once again for the Giants. He has risen, and Giants fans are thrilled.

about it. They think it's still 2007. 2011. They got the same personnel. Good job, Steve. Jeff Ireland, a new consultant for the Norland Saints. We believe there's some conflict here on this reporting. Okay, reportedly.

He's not going to be the right answer. This question anyway. Chan Galee, who we thought might be connected with the Jets. Maybe he's not, but could be. This award's not very strong, and maybe shouldn't have been in the award show. Here we go. What about Gary Kubiak? He fits Coobs. No, he was

an O.C. last year. He was on the radar. Now he's a head coach. Someone that was totally off the radar. All right. The winner is? I thought that was the first category. It's a connected category. Spags for the Giants. His career fell off the rails. He's a hot property. He goes to the

where he got a job with the Rams, I believe. And the Rams was where he was the head coach. Head coach bombs out there. Goes to the Saints bombs out there. Now he's back with the Giants. I have to go with you because the other two people don't officially have jobs. Like I said.

Yeah, I'm sure he could have turned around that defense with Spencer Paysinger is his best player. All right, now. Spegnolo is one of those guys. He leads the league and media likes him, but all his former co-workers don't, which that's always a

trouble type of coach. I'm giving this award to Kubiak. I'm just a write-in candidate. Okay, I like that. He's going from coordinator to head coach. He's coming back. All right, here we go. Now, let's get to the serious business. Best looking hire. I consulted with Mark, who's also comfortable in his heterosexuality so we're going to lay it out here and don't worry

what are you saying about me and gregg not as comfortable i just can't tell interesting actually gregg's pretty comfortable too i could not tell you between the three of you guys thrown west under the bus not throwing them under the bus some people like td's not that comfortable with it either i don't think it's not an uncomfortability i honestly can't i cannot tell you which one of you three is the best looking well it's me well it's also subject to hanging on that one random guy that wasn't wearing his glasses and thought he was Tom Brady on the TV screen. Oh, yeah. Aaron and photo department. That was great. That guy's legally blind. One of the highlights of my month.

Anyway, here we go. Here is the category. And don't worry. I know you had it right in for Coob's. Coob's been a big time. He's like the Bradley Cooper of these awards, nominated multiple spots. Best looking higher. Gary Kubiak, Denver Broncos. This guy's aging in reverse. He's like a madam two-so wax figure. He seems like you're giving short shrift at Jack Del you well we haven't gone through all the nominees i thought you were i thought you were naming him they i know we still have to go through the nominees but this does feel a little bit like you were talking downstairs how kubiak and you you guys have similar hair so it's almost like you're projecting no actually we're talking about omar ruis NFL network's omar ruiz sorry kubiak has like an 80s

hair cut and a possible die job going on it's a totally different situation uh here we go best looking eye let's get back on track i'm sorry gary kubiak john the silver fox Chicago Bears, Jack Del Rio, Oakland Raiders, Todd Bowles, New York Jets, that was Mark pushed hard for that one, and Dan Quinn, and we're assuming he's a new hire with the Falcons, so a loaded category here, the winner. In an upset, Gary Kubiak is the best-looking coach.

When you're like 60 years old and you look like you're 40, that's pretty good. He doesn't have wrinkles. I think one guy we might be overlooking is Rex Ryan for the reclamation project that has happened number one, the nicest teeth on-planet. He has the worst teeth in the NFL. This is the guy you- They're perfectly white.

I don't know. The whole committee has to be taken to task. That was Mark's, Mark was for that one, too. Dan Quinn did not make my top four. I wrote him in later. I said he has nice eyes. Rex Ryan is. Dan Quinn has nice eyes.

I interviewed him last year. You're a little uncle fester right there. Reg is looking at a one inch by one inch head shot. Don't beat baldest. All right. I said he has nice eyes and I stand by that. Go check it out during Super Bowl. I think the committee made a mistake here.

I'd probably go coobs myself. You have to go Coobes for where he is age-wise. Del Rio is furious right now. I think you guys are underselling. No Del Rio, no Del Rio. No, Del Rio is good looking. He's changed over the last couple. Women, Dick.

You guys are, this isn't a, this is an award for the young. I mean, this is like, are you going to draft a 43-year-old quarterback? No. This is an award for the young. That's what, that's who the women want. Are you saying Todd Bulls? I'm saying neither Todd Bowles. Maybe Del Rio is an under-dard.

But, yeah, Bowles is an in-shape guy, an ex-NFL player. You know, that's why I push hard for him to get in the race here. Bowles are del Rio. But Dan is the authority here. Like I said, I'm just thrown out a winner and then I'm open to debate. All right, it's time we're going to slow down for a second and we're going to give out an award. This is not a, this will not have nominees. This is just the Academy gets together and they announce it.

He's got a nice smile. Yeah, Greg pointing to Todd Bowles. Pretty hot. Give him a seven and a half. All right. the Lifetime Achievement Award in Fail. And, you know, this goes to a man who, this is a little, this is a man that thought he had the world in the palm of his hand.

And it didn't quite work out that way. On New Year's Eve, you thought he'd be ringing in the new year with all the leverage in the world and a $4 million check. Instead, he's now the offensive line coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. He is Doug Marone, your 2015 winner of the Lifetime. Time Achievement Award in Fail. Who gave him that advice? And how quickly was that man fired?

Poor woman. Yeah, I take back those hot takes on this podcast that I had of what a smart move by his agent that he not only got the $4 million, but he's going to deliver him to another team. Because the fact is, if Morone knew this was ever going to happen, he would have never left Buffalo and he's furious right now at how this all happen. It's shocking that NFL owners would not look kindly on a guy who opted out of his contract and basically quit his team. Yeah, and also everywhere he has been, there are leaks that he's impossible to work with, that he's a head case, that he is the fourth diva we've talked about on the show today.

But the interesting thing is, immediately after the opt-out, there was the buzz. Oh, he quit his team. But you saw a lot of reporting from a lot of NFL insiders and a lot of tweets that... All of them. Clean sweep. This was a guy that was highly deep. deeply respected in league circles for the work he did in Buffalo the last two years. So was that hook, line, and sinker?

Something happened. Something happened. NFL reporting industry? And by the way, I still think, and Charlie Casterley was, I was listening, he did an interview. Of course, he's been the consultant for the Jets during their coach GM search. He was on Mike Francesa in New York. I was listening. And it still sounds to me because he was, he pushed hard for Maron to the Jets, that that was

probably what was set up. And then Marone didn't handle the interview well. something went wrong in that interview. Well, they said he didn't. And then he was hung out to dry after that. Yeah, I mean, you have to wonder if when the initial rash of reports that he's wanted and there's all this attraction towards Marone, that it is a little bit of the insiders getting fed something by agents and other people, right?

I'm sure that's what Marone thought, because you're not going to walk away from a head coaching job. I mean, at one point, after the Jets interview, he went to go interview with Atlanta, and it was positioned in the media like, oh, he's going to keep his options open. You know, he might play Atlanta off of the Jets in some bidding war or something like that. In the end, you know, neither one of those teams wanted it.

I tell you get a lifetime achievement award. It has to be a special type of goof. And you'll blow it! Adam Gase could have been a contender. I don't know if he really managed it poorly, but everyone thought he was going to either be the next Broncos coach or the next 49ers coach, two great jobs. Well, Gase didn't know that he still doesn't have a job.

He didn't know that the job he had wouldn't be there for him three weeks ago. Right. I hope I didn't step on a future award. No, no, no. Maybe he'll be the head coach of the Jags next year and everything will be forgotten. Who knows? Who? Marone?

Yeah. I don't think so. No, I mean, Mike, he's like Mike Mularky. Mike Marlarky left the bill's job with more dignity. He just said, I don't like this ownership. I don't like what's going on the front office. I'm just going to leave. He didn't have any money waiting for him.

He actually gave up a lot of money to do that. And, you know, he didn't get another head coaching job for another eight years. That turned out to be in. Jacksonville and that only lasted one year and that's how it goes like what a year it was though two and fourteen uh all right here we go the next category always the bride made bridesmaid

never the bride and your nominees Adam gave this is for the guy that always gets connected sorry excuse me for a head coach or you gotta make it clear to the audience connected to getting a head coaching job so not literally going to weddings and dressing as bridesmaids you need to be clear in the hosting role

connected to coaching jobs never quite happens Adam Gase Doug Marone Hugh Jackson Pepp Hamilton Terrell Austin and Josh McDaniels Is this a

just for this year only or are we taking past into account? You've got to kind of factor in the past for this one, okay? But stay mostly brooded in the last month or something. Winner is. Josh McDaniels.

West doesn't like it. Sounds like we have a bit of a battle brewing here. Go ahead. I can't believe anybody took it. Josh McDaniel seriously as a bridesmaid. The Academy did. I think Hugh Jackson's the answer here.

I would back Jackson too because he was a hot name coming out of this and he never really went far with any search. It was like, you know, Pep Hamilton's a little bit too early in the process. Same with Terrell Austin. And McDaniels, one thing about McDaniels is he absolutely burnt his own bridge in Denver. When he left, Pat Bowlin basically said I will never hire a young coach like him ever again. with essentially SpyGate 2. I will never touch a young candidate that immature

who can destroy a room that way ever again. Phrasing. Right, but he hasn't burned his bridge elsewhere and I think it's telling that Thomas DeGitrov. Yeah, because he's back in the comfortable cradle of New England where every coordinator looks good, then goes out and fails. I think Gase is the winner here

because it's a red flag to me that not only does he not get the job in Denver where Peyton Manny apparently wants him and he's been in town. But I don't know. If John Fox, you know, in theory, could bring him to Chicago. That might be maybe, and maybe he will. But if he doesn't bring him to Chicago, okay, there's another guy that just had you and went to the Super Bowl with you, had a ton of success with you,

and yet he doesn't want to bring you with him. So we'll see. Maybe Gase will end up in Chicago. I don't know. I have new information here. Hugh Jackson was left at the altar. His agent came on a radio show in Cincinnati, I believe, with Lance McAllis, and said, Hugh Jackson was stunned.

He did not get the bill's job. Going into the night before they hired Rex Ryan, Hugh thought he had it. That just strikes me as Hugh Jackson's probably, like, the most confident guy in the world. Like, every time he throws a bowling pin, he's, like, stunned that all ten pins don't go down. He's like, what happened here?

All right, fair enough. Fair enough. All right, next category. The coach or the best chance for a deep well of unintentional comedy, your nominees are Jim Tom Sulla winner Jim Tom Sula

Jim Tom Sula and Jim Tom Sula and your winner is Jim Tom Sula I like that you're not even ripping the envelope anymore you're just crumbling it up in your microphone It's getting late in the show

I feel bad for him almost I just it's going to be brutal Henry's going to be so mad when he listens to the show because this is why that's Henry's boy, by the way. That's Henry's boy. I think we would be lampooning Jim Tom Sully even more if we didn't respect

Henry so much. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he'll turn out to be a great coach. He could save Wes. But by the way, you could be a king of unintentional comedy and still be successful also. Right, I'm looking forward to that. Mike, who? Homer Simpson? I'm just saying he could be a guy. He could be like a lovable, like kind of Rex Ryan on someone. Right, they could win and they'd be like,

well, this guy's quotes. They don't make sense, but we love this guy. Rex Ryan is gifted with the power of communication. All right. Rex is. intentional. Rex somehow avoided all these awards. It's shocking. Wes, you're saying that this isn't good communication?

What if I throw a name out there? Mark Trussman. It's like an alien life form. He is like the son of Yogi Berra. Or Yoda. Yogi Berra. Nice. I like when you work baseball.

Listen, I know like four people in baseball. That's one of the four. Lonnie Chisenhall. All right. Let's now, everyone, remove your hats before we get to the final category. It's that time of the show where we look back on the people that we lost in the past month. Perry Fuel.

Jim Schwartz. Mike Smith. John Idzick. Jed Fish. Jim Haslett. Jim Harbaugh. There's always like who's going to be the last person that gets called when they do that. It's always a hard decision

You want to give it to the person that deserves the most Pop applause at the end Harbaugh got it off to Michigan He's like the Jack Lemon of this group These guys haven't died They're collecting paychecks Shorts is making millions of dollars The next couple of years from the bills

And who knows, maybe he'll pop up in the next week He'll get a job I'm just saying they're off the grid right now We lost them I'm sure they're turning to this show In like a private plane Heading to Nepal for like a three-week camping vacation Mike Smith was averaging 13 wins a year

A couple of years ago and now he can't find a job. This really is like an award show in that it's gotten like horribly long. Yeah, well, that's true. All right, final award, final category. And this is, that was the final award. This is, this is it. This is what it's, this is what it all comes down to.

This is why you lift all them weights. The best hire of the 2015 coaching search. This is why you lift all them weights. There you go. Here we go. NTD, I think each of these nominees deserve their own applause because just getting nominated in this category. is very good.

Todd Bowles, New York Jets. Mark Tressman, Baltimore Ravens. John Fox, Chicago Bears. Defangio, Chicago Bears. Kyle Shanahan, Atlanta Falcons. And the winner, the best hire of 2015, Wes, you open it up, you take a look. Who's the winner?

Oh, the Fangio! Wow, wow. Fangio. The Fangio. I disagree. You go back to Chicago, the monsters of the midway, Midwest, you're in the element, you bring it back to the defense.

Who's been a more successful assistant coached in? Great higher. Well, we're getting off. That seems a little bit. This is how a war shows run long. By the way, Kyle Shanahan, Greg could coordinate Atlanta's offense. Kyle Shanahan is walking into a situation where he's going to

immediate success off the charts. Bears are disaster. Was Rex Ryan nominated? Didn't get nominated. I don't think this award is like most likely for success. Like best hire. I agree that Shanahan is in a long situation. They're set up well for success.

You know, you're surprised you didn't give it to your boy. Todd Bowles, the new Jets coach. Listen, the envelope said what it said. I don't vote. I'm not part of the academy. me. And John Fox and Vic Fonzieo, both with Chicago. So, by the way, Bears, things came together for the Bears there. They went from not known who they're going to hire.

The Broncos all of a sudden have a conscious uncoupling with John Fox. They grab Foxy immediately. Everybody's talking high about their new young GM. Now they get Fangio. Maybe. You got John Fox and Jay Cutler. Yeah, Jay Cutler for 20. I'm having a hard time as a Bears fan here.

That's the other side of it. All right. So those were the new coaching hire awards for 2015. We will be back on Thursday with another show dedicated to the Super Bowl coverage As we get closer and closer to the big game This is Dan Hansa signing off For Quiet Storm, the mailman, the boss

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