NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - Latest news & 'Win Wess' Toaster!'

Episode Date: March 26, 2015

A room filled with heroes -- Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, Chris Wesseling and Marc Sessler -- discuss the latest NFL news including the Redskins' quarterback situation, C.J. Spiller's potential with the Saints and more. Plus, it's Wess versus our listeners in a new round of 'Win Wess' Toaster!'.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. The Around the NFL podcast made you swipe right on Tinder. Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Wessling, and Greg Rosethal. What's up, boys? Hey, Dan. Oh, man.

What's Tinder? Oh, please, Wes. We know you're plugged in on these things now. because you're back in the market for a fish, and he's got a big catch on the line. That's what we're hearing. Listeners will notice a spring in Dan's step today because he's excited.

He likes Win West's toaster more than West does. I think you're right about that. Win West's Toaster is finally here. It's upon us. The great game of Skill and Valor is coming up later today. After weeks of anticipation, West gets back into the ring. After a long layoff, tries to reclaim it all. all, reclaim both, you know, a winning streak.

He's on one game losing streak, of course. He wants to quiet Greg, who's saying that, you know, you're on this losing streak, and you want to show that I'm the guy I always was before that dark day against Greg. Chasing chickens, jumping rope, climbing stairs, lifting railroad ties, reading books. Well, you are facing some pressure. If you lose this, you become sort of a footnote. It just becomes wind toaster. You need to win

And like Greg said I love this more really than anything If West goes down today It's over I mean we can't continue this game It's a charade I wouldn't even dispute that If I lose I mean I don't

It would become a charade So that will come up later And because it's so important We're not gonna mess around And overpack the show We're gonna get We can do some news As we always do off the top

And then we're gonna get into the game We have two great contestants calling in, I believe, via Skype. T.D. is doing yeoman's work behind the glass. Really impressive work by the great TD, youngish Kobe, I call him. So let's get into it. Without further ado. And by the way, Mark, welcome back from Arizona.

Oh, yeah. Thank you. Good to be back. Any final memories in Arizona, you know, I know there's the party with all the owners at it. We haven't talked to you since then. There's the owners and GMs. We were wondering when Cessler, was going to be let himself off the leash after all these early bed nights.

I woke up. I fell asleep on the couch myself a couple of nights ago, and there were 37 texts from Sessler about all sorts of things. Oh, I said, Mark is out and about and probably near an open bar. That was the night of the party, and that is one event that I think the 12-year-old me would have melted into like 70 human body parts. Well, explain it to the listeners. Well, because you're in this gigantic, you know, tons of food and drink, all free, paid for

by Rog. And it's every head coach, every general manager, every owner, and all their families, and they couldn't be happier to stop and talk. I mean, it's this one little two or three hour scenario where it's open game. Not much media either, relatively. Yeah, compared to. You know, the media also is hands off. They're not being super annoying.

Well, that's good when you work for the shield, too. You get behind, you get extra access. And there is an Easter egg on today's podcast. If you wait 20 minutes after the end of the pod, Mark will do his power rankings of the 32 hottest wives and girlfriends of the coaches, owners, and GM. So make sure you stay tuned for that. All right. Without further ado, and welcome back, Mark.

It's good to see you. TD, let's do some nows. Podcasts are great. Radio's boring. Shout out to my man, I'm Averford from Parks and Rec. And I think it's not, it might not be the most footballist of shows, but it's going to be a fun show. I'm calling it. This one.

Yeah, it's going to be a fun show. Bold prediction by TD. I like that. The podcast is great. Radio's boring. Love Tom Haverford. Aziz, I just watched his stand-up special. Was it good?

I think it was it at 84. Not quite neat. Well, luckily, hopefully he doesn't listen to this podcast. He won't. In a time when you could watch literally thousands of shows, anything that's rated 84, not happening. I get you. I get you. Skipping.

All right, let's get into some news before we get to the big game. And why don't we start? Let's start in Washington, where John Grude, excuse me, Jay Gruden has said that the Redskins are not afraid to hit the reset button at quarterback. On Wednesday at the NFL annual meeting, Gruden had this to say, if they would pick a signal caller in the draft. It's something we have to talk about in-house. If we think it's worth the risk to hit the reset button,

if he's that good of a football player, if we decided the building that he's a good of football player that we think we should do that, then we will do that. There is the question, and that's the one. hanging over this whole franchise. They say they're still in on RG3, but I guess we'll know for sure by May, right? I think, you know, when sometimes coaches come out in a press conference

and they make a statement and then afterwards we said, well, that coach said that for a reason. I'm getting into thinking that Jay Gruden doesn't say anything for a reason. You know what I mean? He just kind of says whatever and then we read a ton into it, but it's really just kind of Jay Gruden

talking off the top of his head. especially when you get the vibe with Jay Gruden that he is far from the one pulling the strings. If I had to name one coach in the NFL that had the least pull on his organization, I would probably go with Jay Gruden. North of Joe Philbin, sure. Yeah, I would disagree because I think

Gruden has personnel say, but this also reminds me what he said earlier in the offseason where he said RG3 is our starter, and we made that into a big story. And the longer we've gotten away from that, the more I've realized, like, that's just something he said. You think he has personnel, say, when he named RG3,

the starter at the combine, it was like he had a gun stuffed in his back. I mean, in terms of who's coming into the organization, free agency, who they're drafting, I think he has a lot, relatively. Well, I agree with you. I think you can take what Jay Gruden says at face value. He doesn't, I think his press conferences are the most unpredictable of any coach in the NFL, and they're a little fun for that reason. But I think he's been pretty consistent on this issue that he doesn't think.

How can you watch RG3's game tape from 2000? of 14 and say he's our quarterback. I mean, it helped, if anything, to say that right after or at the combine to stop the question from being asked over and over who your starter is. But the day before Gruden said this in Arizona, the general manager said the same thing. We are open to taking a quarterback at number five. Part of it is maybe for those who thought, you know, the Jets are our first team that we've got to get in front of to trade up and get a quarterback.

If someone's looking to get Marriota, now you've got to go above Washington, it sounds like. Or you have to go to Washington. So they're saying, hey, we're open for business. Yeah, he can say that with a straight face. Yeah. They have three quarterbacks, but wouldn't it make sense for them to hit reset? Like, if they like Marcus Marius, it wouldn't it make sense to draft him? Why not?

And it feels like not that long ago, but it is a while ago now, this 2012 investment in RG3. There's no sense now. You're not really prematurely hitting a reset button. You've given a shot and it's really falling apart. So interesting to watch what comes out of there. In Norlands, Sean Payton is very excited about Mr. C.J. Spiller. He calls the running back who signed with the Saints in the offseason the most explosive player on the field when he looks at tape. And this comes after Peyton acknowledged Mark Sessler that they took a close look at bringing back Reggie Bush.

But ultimately, this is a C.J. Spiller offense, and they believe he's a perfect fit for it. I think it was interesting that he noted that when he talked about explosiveness, that it had to do with the Chan Gilly. season in 2012. He admits that wasn't the case last year. I mean, Spiller's dealt with injuries, but that Spiller wasn't just chasing the money and free agency. He and his agent wanted to find the best fit, and I think that we'd all agree that Peyton, with the kind of running back that Spiller is, this is like a great opportunity for him to remake his story at this point, because it's been a while since C.J. Spiller was that guy. I mean, the last season that wasn't the case. Well, I think John Payton looks at the game tape and sees it, Doug

Marone and Nathaniel Hackett didn't use him correctly. And like you said, the injuries. But he also said it reminded me of the Jim Schwartz telling Mike Silver a few years back about Java Best. Some people watch eroticism. I watch Javid Best highlights. Eroticism? Yeah, whatever. Is that the word he used?

Or the way they're using as a substitution? Yeah, I'm using his substitution. I don't even remember that quote. That's a great one. Basically, when Jim Schwartz is watching game clips, he's going to put a sock on the doorknob. It sounds like eroticism is like something like some conservative Baptists would say in trying to shut down like the library. Well, I think I said the real word on this podcast once and it got it got shut down. We hear you.

We hear you. We hear you. There was a lot of interesting things. You talked with Sean Peyton. About eroticism? Mark, about eroticism. Raising. You know, about eroticism, about hanging out in New Orleans, you know, about the team.

He was very excited about Josh Hill. I mean, he to me really said, we made the Jimmy Graham trade. at least in part because we believe we have a tight end in Josh Hill that can capably replace him. Well, and also, by the way, last year, he couldn't stop singing about Traveras Cadet. So, you know, I'm not sure I want to take everything he says in terms of fantasy value. But two years in a row, Peyton was the most interesting NFC coach outside of Chip Kelly, who you couldn't even get a seat at because there were 6,000 people next to him. Peyton gets into details, and I think he does believe that they've reshaped this team with some young players.

I've gone from thinking that Josh Hill wasn't a factor in the Jimmy Gray trade at all to thinking that now it certainly was a factor that they like what they saw out of him last year. He is one of the most athletic tight ends in the league. He runs a 4-640. He's tall. He's big. He can jump. And he's got all the tools.

So I think that his emergence as someone they think that can replace Jimmy Graham, not all of his stats, but can start. I think that factored into the trip. Wes has to love this as a Spiller fan. He really did land CJ Spiller in the absolute perfect place. place to remake his career. I do love it, and I think that Sean Payton echoed a lot of what I said. And it's funny, by the way, the first two players that we've talked about today in the news,

RG3 and C.J. Spiller, their big breakout season was way back in 2012, so return to form is way overdue. Moving forward, here we go. Blake Bortles, who's the number three overall pick in the most recent draft, had a very up-and-down rookie season. Obviously, didn't have a lot of support around him. but Gus Bradley doubling down he's all behind his second year quarterback

quote he's everything we hoped for as far as mentally or mentality and competitiveness he said Tuesday via the team's official website I knew he was tough but just how tough and how fast he would take over this team Wes you wrote about this on the around the NFL site do you think this is completely genuine or is there some creep into the room a little bit

like we need to say this regardless of how we feel I think it is genuine, and I think that those things are very telling, the toughness and that he takes control of the room, and the team has gravitated toward him as a leader. I think those are things that we can't tell from the outside, but Gus Bradley can tell. And I think that Blake Bortles has one very huge flaw, and it's his mechanics, and he fixes that. He could be the quarterback we saw in preseason, whom we were blown away by. And I think for all the love that Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr have gotten, that Blake Bortle still has the highest ceiling of all these quarterback.

The other thing for the Jaguars, if you are a team that went for years and years without a quarterback and having every offseason to think in terms of the draft and free agency about finding that player, if you have, and certainly they're not about to go invest in another quarterback, you can put all your energy and resources as to building the team around them. It just seems to get so much easier at that point. So I think it's genuine too because they never were down on him last season. and he needed to correct some things. It's a long year to be a rookie quarterback in the NFL.

You're playing more games. There's a burn. There's a lot on you. He survived. And I think he does look up in year two. I mean, I'd love to have him if you're a team that needed a quarterback. Well, I think it's genuine because that's Gus Bradley.

I mean, no one is more fired up about being seven and 25 in his career than Gus Bradley. I love Gus Bradley. Mark's in the room. Let's be careful. No, no. The shine is off. They are under pressure to win. But what if they have Josh McCown?

I'm not even trying to be a jerk about that. I really do like Gus Bradley, and I don't think their problems are really his problems. Bordell's problem, though, is that he can't throw short passes. He's not accurate. That goes back to the mechanics. It does, but I haven't seen a lot of quarterbacks come into the league like that that get that turned around. So we'll see.

Maybe they're able to, but if he can't, he's going to be stuck as a mediocre quarterback. And finally, let's go to Tampa where, Coach Levy Smith confirmed during Wednesday's NFC coach's breakfast. Mark Sessler is there, by the way. We're not talking about some drone in an office plugged into Twitter. Jerno. Homeboy was a straight-up Jerno down in Arizona. Coach Levy Smith said this, and in Mark's view,

on the subject of Mike Lennon, who's been speculated as a trade target. We've had the first pick, and we've been taking calls for a long period of time, And I assume that would go right up until the draft, Smith said, per the Tampa Bay Times. And Mark Sessler, come on, he was there. I just told you that. Yes, specifically on Glennon. So let me go around the horn here, trademark infringement. Mark, Wes, Greg, I'll start with you, Mark.

Yes or no, simply yes or no. Mike let him a member of the Bucks on May 2nd. No. Wes. No. Greg. Yes. Why?

Why yes. Because he's still a member of the Bucks. They haven't found a trade offer. worth doing it, and he makes sense as a backup for whatever number one pick they take. But what if a team that gets all geeked up about him offers, I don't know, a third-round pick? Then they might trade them. Well, I don't know if they're going to get that. It's been over for more than a year.

He's been the subject of trade talks. And number one, like this was the young guy that the past coaching staff for at least a period of time to said, this is our Blake Bortles and we're excited about him. but there's no indication that Lovie Smith feels that way. If Lovie Smith's been honest about a lot of stuff, he's been all over the map with Mike Lennon. The fact that he gave Josh McCown on the job back last year really told you everything you need to know about Mike Lennon.

I thought as a Jets fan who stuck in purgatory of the quarterback, I thought Lennon was a guy he could take a flyer on at the right price, a young guy with a good arm, awful dancer, clearly, and maybe not the most photogen of QB. But a guy you can get in the building and make some plays and you can get behind. The fact that he continued to stay with his team, I don't know. I'm going to go, yes.

I'm going to go with you guys. I think he's going to get moved by a team that's desperate for a passer. Drinks on me tonight if any of you can name the other quarterback on the roster other than Mike Glennon. There's only two in Tampa Bay right now. A Sims, son? No, not a Sims. Let's see. It's just not going to happen.

Is this a Win West's Toaster? G.J. Kinney. A little preview. This is like the game, and you got it wrong. Billy. Seth Labato. Oh, Lobato. Oh, the Lobato. How do you spell Labotto? L-O-B-A-T-O.

Lobato, from Northern Colorado. I bet he stinks. I think he made that name up. I bet he stinks. So you've got to have a backup quarterback. Maybe they're the team. They draft James Winston, and you sign Mike Vick as his backup. Why not? How about this? You draft James Winston, and you go get Josh Freeman off the pile and you say,

Josh, welcome home. Okay. It's terrible idea. That's what's happening. All right, Dan Hanz is here with the rest of the around the NFL team. It is that time, gentlemen. We've been teasing it for weeks upon weeks. Everybody's favorite NFL-based game show.

With Wes's Toaster. Wes has been waiting for this moment for eight months. I'm not sure I would let whoever make this graphic, I would not let them make my toast. This is the production elements are through the roof. It reminds me of Wayne's World. the movie where all of a sudden Noah's Arcade bought them out and they were in a set that looked like Wayne's basement. Total parallel to that.

I'm a little nervous. Also, you know, for those of you, and this is going to be on NFL now and fans of the podcast, obviously, this will be the first time you watch the game show unfold, Win West's Toaster, which we've been doing for about two years now, much to Greg's chagrin, is a game of skill and valor. Well, it's not a game. It's entertainment. Like, the WWE is entertainment.

This is kind of like scripted entertainment. People can just give belts to other people. Like, it's not really the winner. We decide who keeps it. Oh, we'll explain what that means. But this is a game of skill and valor to determine the trivia master of the around the NFL domain, named after Wes's toaster, which is an NFL official NFL product that the winner of the toaster receive, the winner of the contest receives.

It had always been Wes. And let's start before we get. And we have two great contestants that TD has lined up on short notice. TD's doing a great job behind the glass. But I want to first talk a little bit, how did we get here? How do we get here? And I'll start with Wes, who began this game. We've probably played it six or seven times now.

A dominant run. More than that even. Oh, yeah. Potentially more. Ten times. Wasting anybody, any of our callers, any of our listeners that called in. Sometimes it got weird. There was one guy in Canada that was definitely under the,

some type of substance, I would think. Saskatchewan, I believe. But there have also been some close calls, and West always came out on top until, out of nowhere. Greg Rosenthal, to my right, who has always been steadfast in his belief that this game has no place on this podcast.

I've been the champion of the game. Greg always said, no. Nothing says 2014 in a trivia show on, like, the radio. They're basically dialing it back 100 years. Greg is like more football head talk. I want to talk more about guards. I want to talk about Josh Sitton. No, we want to play a game.

So out of nowhere, Greg challenges West for the toaster. And a little, I trip down memory lane, TD. What happened? And Malcolm Smith had the interception in the NFC title game. That's what I'm talking about. For West. That's what I'm. Greg wins the toaster.

It's over. Oh, my God. Go to England. Go on standard. on that. Oh, no, the great tragedy has occurred in the worst possible situation. All right. So that, I mean, that was the big that happened, I believe, last year, sometime Greg shockingly swipes the toaster from Wes, who was unstoppable to that point. Well, that was when I had my innocence, and I thought this still was a game,

because the whole point was supposed to be, when Wes loses the toaster, the game is over. And I won the toaster. That's why I was saying, it's over. It's over. I'm screaming. But then I realized this is just kind of some sort of WWE marketing thing where we just decide different storylines and we make up things. What happened though, Greg, what should be pointed out

is that the listeners of our show who we love and adore spoke out and they came out on Twitter and droves and said, you cannot get rid of this game. It's too fun. So we christened it when Greg's toaster. And Wes, he faded into the background temporarily and Greg stepped up

And the first time ever, he defended the title. You know, it was a Buster Douglas knocks out Mike Tyson. We all wondered if Greg would really like Buster Douglas get fat, stop training. That's what I said. He was my model. The women in the money was unbelievable. And this is what happened in Greg's first defense against Bernard from Brooklyn. Bernard is your winner.

Bernard's got the toaster. Bernard's got the toaster. Bernard's got the toaster. The Giants were in the pound it. Wow. Greg, the old tomato can. So Greg was not happy. Greg was legitimately surly after that, I remember. I blew Mike Jones, which I knew.

That was why. Because it was a question I knew the answer to, and I just forgot. And then Bernard, you know, Bernard then. So this, by the way, this is a good look at really what it looked like. I mean, Greg, at the top of his game. game is Buster Douglas. They can never take away Tokyo, Wes, undefeated versus, you know, the champion. One and O.

So, and that's, of course, Wes is Tyson. You look so smug in this picture. You do. It really matches the way Greg has always looked at the game. And Bernard, after beating Greg gives Wes the toaster back in one of the great moves of all time in exchange for a Jets jersey. So now Wes is back in the possession of the toaster. But like Tyson, after Tokyo, after Tyson went away for a while, we'll just leave.

it there and then came back as Wes comes back today. There were questions about whether he was still the same guy. Is Wes still the same proud champion after what happened with Greg? That great shame. Well, he's the only champion in history that's on a losing streak.

One game. That's not a streak. After the long layoff. And now Wes is back for the first time to defend his toaster. And TD is really on short notice. And what we like to do with TD is we put him on short notice and give him task. I said, let's put this on video so our listeners can see how this all goes and not only did he get it done

for the first time ever we're also going to have our first contestant that we could see via cyberspace the information on the super highway thanks al gore he is uh what is his name who is this who is our first contestant let's find out contestant number one meet nathan a 28 year old fan and shareholder who spends his time watching America's game and playing Madden. His favorite around the NFL podcaster is Greg because he claims they share the same laugh. Whatever with that. If Nathan wins the toaster, he'll make his lady breakfast in bed with the team of her choosing.

There he is, Nathan. How about you? What's up? I like the sound to you, Nathan. I think you're going to be the man to end this game, take Wes out, put him on a two-game losing streak. Guys, you buried the lead. It's future NFL correspondent, Nathan. Oh, nice.

I like it. We're getting rid of this old thing. He's got props. And as Nathan noted when we met him right before we started, you are, it looks like where you're from, you're taking after someone. This is my Brian Billick man. I have my Skype set up here for my 4 o'clock, you know, around the league, you know, whatever I need to do. He's going coaches' show to impress TV, and he's already kissing up to the boss,

so he knows that I like that. If I ever get... Hey, I know where the power is, you know? That's fair. That's fair. And if I ever get one of these setups, like the home setups, I would definitely put something inappropriate in the background every show until I got fired. But it looks like you're...

I have my Brett Favre crying on the cover of Sports Illustrated here after Farr, so there's no bitterness whatsoever left in my heart here, Troy. Impressive, very good. My former here. So, Nathan, thank you very much for joining us. And just hold stick tight one second, Nathan. Wes, I wanted to check in with you and see where you're at. Mark, you've noticed, like, while we were getting set up here,

Wes is having some issues with the wire on his headset, and maybe that's really a manifestation of a greater issue with Wes right now. little anxiety. Yeah, I mean, you know, we've had to fight through, you know, a forest of technological issues on the show in the past, but it seems today to have gotten Wes into a strange headspace. There's a cord on his headset that's tugging gently at his cranium. It's annoyed him. So it's a factor that potentially puts Nathan in the driver's seat for an upset. Wes, where is your head at right now? How you feel? Well, I think whereas Greg took the Buster Douglas approach, women, food, a lot of food, alcohol, no trash.

any whatsoever. I've spent the last year since Greg beat me. I bet I've read 20 or 25 football books. I feel more confident than ever. I am a smarter man now than I was when I was tearing through tomato candy. I don't doubt the man. And I'll tell you something about Wes. Unless as a competitive man, I've played multiple games and sports with Wes at this point. He wants this in the worst way. Nathan, I do, I root for you as a listener, even though you cite Greg is your favorite member of the team. That bothers me. It sticks to my ribs. There's always room for more. Okay.

There is a possible to take this Tyson analogy further that you are Peter McNeely. It might be a little before your time, but the first guy that Tyson fought out of prison and he completely just pulverized them in a round. Take that as an insult, Nathan. They pulled that guy out of the bar. He wasn't even a real fighter. You're better than that. You're a shareholder.

He is a shareholder. Anyway, so here we go. Let's get into it. Do you know how the game works, Nathan? I do, I do. All right. For those that have not played the game or have not heard it before, it's six questions to both Nathan and West.

The same six questions. Nathan goes first. Wes will be sequestered in a soundproof room. I put the West in sequester. I like that. Always like that one. And Mark, you are the official timekeeper. That's right.

You always do a great job. Not always, but I'm going to. So, Wes, why don't we see you, you know, scrim, basically? So now Wes will leave And Mark, as you know, it is 60 seconds for each competitor You could pass and come back to a question Or you could deem when to get out

Because the tiebreaker in the event of the same number of correct answers Is the clock That's how Wes got it back Or that's how Bernard rather That's how Bernard on a toaster So here we go How you feel, Nathan? I'm ready.

All right, here we go This is how we'll do at the start of the music, when TD queues the music or the ominous sound effects, Mark, you start the clock and I start asking questions. You ready, TD? Let's do it, guys. All right, let's do it. Name the two wide receivers that went before Odell Beckham Jr. in the 2014 draft.

Pass. This former Jet Star is second on the team's all-time receiving list, despite being legally blind in one eye. Don Maynard Who is the NFL's career leader in Sacks? That's Michael Strayhan Which coach, including assistance, has been coaching in the NFL the longest, current? 30 seconds

Bill Belichick This NFL quarterback was born in Santa Claus, Indiana Drew Brees. This former All-American linebacker became a B-movie star after injuries derailed his brief NFL career in 1989. Um, Bubba Sned.

You want to go back? All right, time's up. I thought we had a McNeely situation. And Nathan, I'm sad to say. Hey, let's see. Let's see how it goes. Wes has to come in here and produce. Sad to say, you might have a McNeely situation here.

I spent all my time, I spent all my time setting up the background. Hey, you got style points. Let's bring Wes back in. By the way, Dan, you should never, they always want to go back because there's no downside, right? I guess then you double pass. Well, the clock is a tiebreaker, but in that case. Yeah. All right, here comes Wes back into the room.

West cutting the striking figures. His shoulders look great. right now his chest looks great body language uh nice waistline he looks fit is what i'm trying to say it's been biking he's been biking a lot all right do you want to know how many nathan got right no you won't tell me i would not tell you anyway all right let's do it let's roll name the two wide receivers that went before odell beckham in the 2014 draft oh come on why can't i think of this sammy wakins mike evans this former jet star is second on the team's all-time receiving list despite being legally blind in one eye.

Wayne Krabet? Who is the NFL's career leader in Sacks? Reggie White? No, Bruce Smith. Sorry. Bruce Smith. Which coach, including assistants, has been coaching in the NFL the longest, active? Bill Belichick? No, Dick Leboe. Sorry, Dick Leboe. This NFL quarterback was born in Santa Claus, Indiana. Jay Cutler. This former All-American linebacker became a B-movie star after injuries derailed his brief NFL career.

Ryan Bosworth. Stop the clock. Let me just go to Greg as a judge here. Greg, he blurted out two answers quickly. He corrected himself before we moved on. Can we take the answers that he corrected? Well, who cares? He tried the tomato can.

This is important for knowledge. Spoiler, thanks, Greg. Yes or no, do we give him those points? Yeah, sure you give it. All right, four out of six for Wes. Nathan Nathan 0 out of 6

Ouch Peter McNealeed That's when You know You get behind Greg And anything involving This game Bad things happen

Sorry Nathan I blame myself Official tally five I think he got five Not not Not a far by the way You got two wrong So that's four

Nathan thank you very much For those that want to know Wesley Walker Aminating Halfblind Jets player And Bruce Smith Is the NFL's All Time Saturday

Oh you got that one Excuse me. Dick Lebow is a coach. You got that. Maybe you did. Good job. Five out of six. Thanks, Nathan.

Nathan, thank you for guys. I enjoyed that. Maybe I should be the official scorekeeper. Thank you for listening. I thought Greg kept score. That's why I kissed up to him. All right. So Nathan is vanquished.

Just as I thought, moving on to our second contestant, T.D. Who we got? Contestant number two. Meet Matt. Vanilla Gorilla Davidson, a Seattle Seahawks fan who listens to the podcast while doing cardio at the gym because it gets him high. Matt claims to consume only NFL-related media, and if he wins the toaster, he'll make a piece of toast for every matchup of the NFL season, eating the winners and feeding the losers to the birds. Wow.

Wow, welcome to be around the NFL podcast, Matt. carboloading on our behalf, and we love it. You got to go to the gym, you know. The Vanilla Gorilla, you're my favorite caller already. I like this, Brett. I feel like we should just do that anyways. And more importantly, he's in an office setting, which is very, you know, I've got to give it to him. Oh, this is right on the company's dime.

Risking it all. Wes. Who's filling out the TPS reports while you're doing this? I'm in sales. I'm not making or losing money right now. Don't let Wes in your head, Matt. All right, Wes, why don't you be gone? just so you know Matt

Plus that looks like a big guy A little intimidation for Wes here As I said earlier today Wes's body's looking great But Matt looks like a guy That his traps are out of control So watch out West By the way Matt

Five nothing win for Wes in the first round So he's feeling good So just to give you an idea of what you're working with here It's going to be a challenge Can't do any worse though Exactly, cannot do worse And I told Matt the rules before he came on So TD at the start of the music

we get going let's do it who is the general manager of the Tennessee Titans past how many times was Jerry Rice named Super Bowl MVP twice

who recovered the loose ball after Brandon Bostick's onside recovery kick attempt in January's NFC title game Matthews this Hall of Famer and studio analyst starred as a heroic smoke jumper

in the 1998 box office Dudd Firestorm. Who's the winningest coach in Raiders history? Lane Griffin. No, no, no, no. Okay. Pete Carroll served as defensive coordinator

for what team after being fired by the Jets in 1994? Patriots. Do you want to go back? No. 10 seconds. Stop the clock. All right. It looks like you got two.

Yeah. You got Chris Matthews Did recover the ball And John Madden So two out of six Yeah, the Carol one I thought you might have as a Seahawks fan But All right, it's better than zero

You never know And not my surprise about the Titans GM I'll tell you that Nobody knows that Don't feel bad about that So put up a good poker face Matt Don't let Wes know how you did All right

And here he comes The defending once again Defending champion coming off a dominant victory, but he will have to do better. I'll say this. I'd never tell you what's how you got to do. You've got to do better this time.

Got to do better. Wow. You've got to do better. In fact, you want me to tell you exactly how much you have to do better. No, because you won't tell me. Right about that. All right. At the start of the Erie Unsolved Mysteries, Robert Stack Music,

we will begin. Who's the general manager of the Tennessee Titans? Rustin Webster. How many times does Jerry Rice named Super Bowl MVP? What? Who recovered the loose ball after Brandon Bostick's onside kick a recovery attempt in January's NFC title game? Chris Matthews.

This Hall of Famer and studio analysts starred as a heroic smoke jumper in the 1998 box office Dudd Firestorm. Pass? Who is the winningest coach in Raiders history? John Madden. Pete Carroll served as a defensive coordinator for what team after being fired by the Jets in 94? 49ers?

Do you want to go back? Yeah, the fire jumper. Yes. Stop the clock. That was your answer? No. Oh, the Hall of Famer and Studio analyst. This Hallfamer and Studio analyst starred as a smoke jumper in the 98 box office dud firestorm.

Howie Long. Got it right on the nose. Wow. Let's see. One, two, three. three, four, five, six out of six. Oh, yeah. Farron!

Boom. Oh. You only needed three, but. Matt got two, and Wes got every answer right there. So, Matt, listen, there's no shame. You put up a nice fight. You got a couple answers, but Wes just out of control. Can't be perfection, I guess, eh?

It can't beat it. Matt, thank you. What are you selling, Matt? Fars. All right. All right. I like it. I like that very much.

Well, thank you very much for playing the game, and thank you for listening to the show, Matt. You are a mensch. Thank you, Matt. Enjoyed that. All right. Well, listen. Listen, I think Wes answered a lot.

A lot of doubters, and a little bit of humble pie served over to Greg, who I know is not going to eat it. I wouldn't play today. What are you talking about? This had a lot to do with the Greg angle. You know, behind the curtain, we had a little stop down, and Greg could not mask his excitement for the... this game.

I just can't, I can't help it. It's one of the subplots of the game that Greg takes. It's what I was saying. He loves it. That's what I was saying. This is all entertainment. We needed Wes to win to fit the script again, so we get a couple of tomato cans that combined for two right answers.

He was a Seahawks fan and he got the Pete Carroll question. The game is not going away, Greg. I'm guessing he got the Chris Matthews question. He did get that right. 11 out of 12 for Wes. Great job, Wes. You are the champion. A round of applause, perhaps, T, D.

Wes after what a performance that was. How about a round of applause for TD as well. Nice putting this all together. Nice job. T.D. You know, better contestants next time in terms of the competition. During the practice run, it's kind of like pre-game pre-draft drills. These guys come in and work out against

cheers and they look awesome and then they flamed up. Are we totally overlooking the timekeeping element here? Oh, you did an excellent job. I held that fort down without any issues. No hiccups. A tremendous job. Big shout out to guy Sean and John who are making this a video

as well. You say Sean and John? Sean John. John. I like that. John. Good nickname. Sean John does the work. We should drop a little bad boy, baby. Yeah, exactly. Drop it in there. Little bad boys for life. We ain't going. All right. So that's it. That's it for another edition of Win West's

Toaster. Thank you for watching. We hope to bring this back to you in the future and hopefully Wes gets challenged and maybe that challenger is the man to my right. Greg Rosenthala, a little tease from the Don King of the game. Thank you for watching. And that's it for the around the NFL podcast as well.

So we will be back on Monday with another week of shows. Wes, congratulations again. Thank you. Champion, Rain Supreme, signing off for Quiet Storm, the mailman, the boss, TD, and Sean John behind the glass. Until Monday. When fire breaks out, there's a dedicated team ready to jump right into the middle of it.

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