NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal - LeSean McCoy Signs; Mailbag

Episode Date: July 31, 2020

A bunker filled with heroes - Dan Hanzus, Marc Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal bring you all of the latest news around the NFL including LeSean McCoy's signing, Damien Williams opting out and Ngakoue holding out. The heroes answer some mailbag questions at the end of the show.Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comNFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Friday. Hey, now. I did have a Mountain Dew face. That's like the only soda you could drink without even if being refrigerated. And it's the only soda you can, like, drink the whole can, at least back, you know, when I was having that. I mean, you could drink that in under a minute pretty easily. Like, you would. It's just, like, easy to just put it back.

Let's just let Greg keep discussing that. because I need to, I want to hear and learn more about this phase. Even when I was 15, even if I was 15 and I was slugging down like a 20-ounce bottle of Mountain Dew, I was like, oh, this probably isn't good for me. No. I kind of miss doing the thing where, and I wasn't, this wasn't all the time, but you go to 7-Eleven or wherever and make the old suicide where you mix like eight different sodas together. Is that what they called it in Connecticut? I didn't know what that was.

They did that in the, in the Northeast, too. suicide you go you get every flavor right and it's very adventurous and in the end it's still just sort of tastes like coke what yeah it doesn't um yeah not yeah but what i mean what makes it suicidal right i've never heard i never heard that one but yeah it it shows it's a safe childhood that that's like the closest you get to a little bit of danger is mixing sodas yeah i should have mixed more like real-life suicide watch scenarios into my childhood i'll i'll maybe you know you're right Keep working at it, Mark.

As you can see, I'm still in Texas. I was supposed to fly back. I had a 245 flight back to L.A. yesterday, and I completely packed my bags. I was walking down the steps to get in the car. And I said to my wife, Emily, I said, well, I don't want to go. I don't need to go. The reason I was flying back Thursday is because I thought we were going to have an NFL network show. Didn't.

So Emily checked the airlines, and it was just a minimal rebooking fee. So now I'm staying until Sunday. And we'll see. We'll take it from there. I might just keep pushing this thing back. Why should I return? You know, if you, if you followed the, if you follow the gram at all, boys, I'll tell you why I don't have to hurry back. Beautiful photo of my son Harrison, Harry Hansis, on the boat on Lake LBJ.

This is a, this is a place I don't want to leave. There's a reality to confront. But I will be back, just not as originally planned. Why not stay? Is your, wait, your family is potentially staying longer than you are? That's even more reason to stay. Why not stay? What's bringing you back even?

Gotta go back. You can't just leave. You got to go back eventually. You have to check on the house. We've heard about that. And that, you'd be coming up to that point again. But I just think you kind of flex your muscles as a free man to just decide, I'm not doing what people tell me to do.

I'm going to stay right here in Texas on LBJ Lake, Lyndon Baines Johnson Lake. Lake. that one okay it's beautiful here kingsland texas all right today's show Friday news show so we'll get you caught up on everything that's going on in the league since we last spoke on Wednesday and haven't done this in a while always fun a little bit mailbag Greg you sometimes you're a little up and down with outreach with the listeners are you okay with doing a little mailbag today I'm good with it's not about the outreach more is it going to be good is it going to be good is it going to be good, you know.

Mailbag had its time, you know, had its time in the early 2000. Well, you're putting a lot of pressure on the other two people here to make this something more than a mailbag, it sounds like. Isn't it just sort of a nice segment? It's a perfect Friday, it's a perfect Friday little show here. That's exactly the answer that I thought Greg would give. What? I was trying to give you what you wanted.

I really didn't have much of a feeling, so I tried to remember why you thought I don't like mailbags. I don't know. I don't know. It was great, though. It was exactly what I thought was going to happen. All right, let's do some news. What do we call it, Mark?

Sam Donov. Matt Damon. That's from the NFL Network broadcast program, Friday's, last Friday's episode, and we are in talks behind the scenes to continue on the television through the season. Nothing's set in stone, but it seems to be heading in that direction. And we're working on how we're going to do that and how we're going to bring the show to NFL network, how it will be different from the podcast, how it might be the same. It's all, you know, you might think listeners, dear listeners who we love, that we just show.

up and sit in front of a laptop and a microphone and just talk for 45 minutes or an hour and 10 minutes and oh, we're just a bunch of guys at the bar hanging out. That's why they're so relatable. No, none of this is an accident. Everything is working. I'm never at the bar. Never.

Greg's never at a bar. Always working behind the scenes to bring the best version of the Around the NFL podcast. That's what we do. Absolutely. Unless like we don't have a seg, then we just do the mailbag This is going to be

We're going to be here The minute we sign off We're going to get a I think that was how I used to feel It was like Oh well we're out of ideas Let's do a mailbag But you know

I'm embracing being out of ideas right now That's for sure I'm not hiding from that Plenty ideas Had plenty ideas But the mailbag's a nice way To interface with the fans It's important

Getting back to my original point Some people like to do that Some people don't if you get if you if you if you accept any of of the feedback it's like you got to accept all of it so i i take none of it let's do some news starting with a familiar name lachan mccoy he's got another job did you know that lachan mccoy won a super bowl last year he did he was on the chief's roster he wasn't on the um super bowl roster they left him off and uh he

He was not active on game day when the chiefs knocked off the Niners to claim the title. And he wants his career to end in a different way. So what does that mean? Probably getting on the field to start. And the veteran running back is signing a one-year deal worth just over $1 million with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Rapsheet had this. He spent some of this offseason talking about where he would like to go, how he'd like to get more playing time. and the Eagles were thrown out there,

a potential reunion here, Mark Sessler, but ultimately he ends up in Tampa Bay, a place where he could potentially carve out a role. Yeah, I think it's, you know, we talked about a few camp battles earlier in the week, and this is an interesting one in Tampa Bay because, you know, obviously with Tom Brady there, the theme has been,

who's going to be their third down pass catching back? And, you know, Kishon Vaughn was drafted. He's on their COVID list. right now. And so I think there's a chance with Ronald Jones there that McCoy could certainly play a role in the third down area. I don't think he's the same player right now, but he's someone that has like 500 career catches. He can do that. They've got a few other guys too that are battling for it. I can't wait to see what happens. He's got to make the team. I mean, I saw these like tweet, you know, it's like ESPN's NFL Twitter like sends out, it's like, check out this, 2020, you know,

Buck's team and it's like Evans Godwin, Grant, McCoy, Brady and it's like, well McCoy, you know, he's only on the team as Mark mentioned because I think Keishon Vaughn's on the COVID list. He's got to make the team but who knows? That is a bad looking backfield. I wrote up camp battles this week. I put in it like they're going to have to add

someone to this backfield because Ronald Jones can't do third downs. Kishan Vaughn's a rookie like it just didn't look like it was good enough. So he might make that team and be a little frisky. Could be a bunch of Hall of Famers or at least close to Hall of Famers in that team. I mean, I wonder what Tom Brady's input is with any of the stuff

because he probably wants some veteran presence in there to do that versus they have a seventh rounder that they said could maybe be their past catching back to. But Brady seems to have quite a bit of influence. It's like the consolation price for not having Antonio Brown. It's like, well, we're not giving you him, Tom Brady, but we'll give you McCoy. You're right. He probably did ask for him. McCoy is less than 1,000 yards away from 12,000. career rushing yards he'd like to get that uh this season he really has had and we've studied this guy

from an off the field perspective too and it hasn't always been pretty pretty but he has put together a hall fame level career i just want to yards from scrimmage uh through his golden period which really was about 2010 to 2017 a run that some go to the pro bowl six times all pro twice. 1,700 yards, 1,600 yards, 1,200 yards. That was 2013, 1,500 yards, 1,500 yards, 1,600 yards, 1,600 yards. I mean, this dude was a baller. Now, he's not that guy anymore. So we'll see, maybe he gets to this abbreviated camp and he shows nothing. He doesn't make the team, but he's the name brand. I just wanted to put something, you know, like, it's nice to have something first in news that's not COVID-related. So that's what McCoy is really doing for us right now.

That's good job, Greg. Yes, exactly. And now let's get to some COVID talk because one of the people in the backfield for Kansas City that was active for Super Bowl 54 and he put together a game for the ages. Chris Wessling, I believe, thought he should have been the MVP of the game, Damien Williams. Well, he won't be the MVP of any Super Bowl in 2020 or 2021 because he has opted out of the 2020 season. Chiefs General Manager Brett Veach announced in a statement. Williams, Greg, was a guy that was a part of what they did, like a big part of their role.

And then he had the game clinching touchdown in Super Bowl 54. It changes things around in that backfield. I mean, he was so good. Like, if he didn't have the career he had beforehand, people would have given him way more credit, but he had bounced around the league. He was another guy who kind of escaped Gase's Dolphins team. It's funny to look back on those teams.

And Williams, I thought, was going to do a better job holding off their rookie, Edward Tiller, than people thought that it was going to be a little bit more of a split situation and maybe the guys who are taking Edward Salaer in the top 20 in fantasy drafts were going to be a little disappointed. Well, that's out the window. And he mentioned his mom, whose inner 70s was diagnosed with cancer

and he wants to stay and take care of her and didn't think he should be like going back and forth from the team, so it totally makes sense. And it just means Edward Slaher is going to have to step up and play a lot. They might have to sign someone. that's the thing is like all the you mentioned the injuries are coming too and we've had the opt-outs you have the COVID list I just feel like teams are going to have

to be signing a few extra veterans maybe than they normally would be I mean they they have they have they have not saying that they're starters but DeAndre Washington is there that's right yeah they have Dary Williams they have to way too many when you throw in Damien Williams my one issue with the Chiefs last year well there was a million guys with the first name starting in D and I couldn't figure out who any of them were for like eight weeks which is not a great sign in this career path. But, you know, so this, this is nice. You got a different type of name in there. And this is one of those moves where the minute it happened, I'm like, I'm off Twitter for like

the 24 hours because it's a bunch of, it's nothing but fantasy heads with their panties and a bunch over this developing situation in Kansas City. And I get it. I mean, it clearly You got to stop following all these fantasy guys then. Well, I mean, I do like the, at least some of them. I mean, not like the Norris is and the roto pads and the silvers of the world. But maybe you got some riffraff in there too. You know what I might have to read. Maybe this weekend, that could be a project. Who do I chop out?

Also, yeah, I imagine it's probably pretty easy to make comments like that from your little room in your home. But if Evan Silva was standing in front of you, would you say the same thing? Well, I'm definitely not speaking. I'm definitely not speaking about any Evan Silva directly, who I think is probably one of the few people that uses Twitter correctly. I wouldn't say that about myself at times or 97% of the other people that I encounter on Twitter. People don't know this, but Evan Silva. I got a clap from Greg there. Oh, yeah, I was killing a mosquito, but sorry.

Formerly of Roto World, now at the Great Site, established the run with Adam Levitton. Great sight. Eight feet tall. Right. He could step in and fill some of these voids that are being triggered by COVID-19. He looks like a right tackle. He really does. He should play right-tack.

Silva also born with. the antibodies. I mean, the man is essentially... All set to go. All set to go. Where was I? Oh, yes, before Mark cut down the fantasy industry for some reason, I wanted to point out that yes, Clyde Edwards

Hillare, their young running back is a guy that could go in the first round. And Adam Rank, our good buddy, who did such a great job for our fantasy football extravaganza last year, I would like to have them on again. It's great. If that's okay with Mark, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Obviously,

If Frank gets his panties in a bunch, I don't know. Am I wrong? I do think that it was a hot point in their summer long, you know, to create your team scenario there. But it did get everyone real hot takey about the Chiefs backfield. No, I'm not saying they were doing the right thing. That's okay, though. That's what that industry is about. It is okay.

People want some news. I mean, people are desperate for the football news to talk about. I think so. You know what I mean? Like, this is like, okay, like, you know, fantasy guys into action. We actually have some news because it's like it's July 31st and they're saying they're telling us camps are starting. You turn on NFL network and it's like inside training camp life. We've been through so many of these training camps now.

It's like our bodies are used to the routine of what this week would normally be like. But the reality is it's not really happening. It's not. It's not happening. Like the season's happening in theory on time. But for now it's just we're just kind of waiting around. Let me reframe this, Mark. Luke Skywalker comes back to life on Star Wars and Mark Hamill signs down.

for the role, and they're going to do the anti-aging thing, and it's going to be some hero's journey for Skywalker. All the Star Wars people, they're going to have their quote-unquote panties in a bunch and about it, because that's exciting in their world. And right. And your world. Look it. And it's not a time to be, you know, let people find the joy they can find in this, in this tough off season. So that I'm not some sort of grinch over it. All I said was that I logged off Twitter. I didn't report them. I didn't mute them or block them. I get it. And they're playing the role and I'm very happy for them I took a break that was simply a personal and your joy comes from using the word you know panties repeatedly

apparently just like you just love saying that word you seem to enjoy doing that just as much as anyone else right there Greg so where what is happening to the to this news segment Erica Erica can you jump on are you more comfortable with us saying panties or no pants I think don't say it either is kind of bad um but if you say underpants like cutely like you just did, then I guess it's like sort of funny. Yeah, it's like sort of funny. Yeah,

but I don't know. I mean, I used it in a colloquial, in a phrase that's a common phrase. Yeah. Not just on its own. That's what Greg did. All right. Listen, enough fun. We have to talk about COVID-19 some more. Lane Johnson, the right tackle

of the Philadelphia Eagles. Tested positive for COVID-19. He is one of several big-name players that are on the COVID list. We're up to 66. Anthony Barr, the star linebacker of the Vikings, is one of eight Minnesota players. Kenny Ghaladay, the star wide receiver of the Lions. And former first round pick, T.J. Hawkinson, the tight end, is one of seven players. They are one of seven players for the Lions.

on the COVID list. And relatedly, after several positive tests, the bills sent their rookies home and opted to go with some Zoom-type meetings rather than in-person. And let me preface all this or supplement this by adding the Miami Marlins in baseball are up to 60% of their roster, has tested positive for COVID. and the St. Louis Cardinals had to shut down their games this weekend because we learned this morning multiple players tested positive. Buckle up, baby!

The Bill's thing was significant, I think, because it was the first example of guys who had been in the building then were told to leave the bill. That they passed the test initially and then they were let in and then they started failing them. And so that's just, it's part of the issues that these teams are going to be dealing with this entire month. And the number is going to rise. Like, we'll get 20 or 30 more, you know, probably later today.

We're taping this early. And it's just complicated. But then again, a team like the Texans who have been in longer than anyone, because they got to show up first, they've had like, you know, three or four street days where everyone's in the building and everyone's passing it. But so far, yeah, like 15 guys on the Vikings and Lions, especially. seems seems like a lot. I mean, for me, I'm feeling more optimistic, to be honest. I know all the stuff is happening right now, but this is when it would happen, right?

You're getting everyone in fresh off the streets and where they've come from. And, you know, you hoped you get the cases out of the way and you move forward. Football has this distinct advantage that baseball does not, and baseball is getting killed by it right now. Games every day in baseball, you're having to cancel left and right just to comply with the basic, you know, procedures. Football could be real thorny too, but you have a seven-day break in between most of these games, and it gives players a chance to go into whatever COVID protocol they call it and back out. I mean, look, it's still... And you're only traveling eight times a year. Right, right. And people said, oh, well, they should, you know, baseball is, aren't baseball teams actually only

traveling nine times a year for most of them in this 60 game slate where they're trying to say it's so different? But the issue is, you're traveling once for one game. And baseball, you know, Like, these series, it's going to get tough to make them up. How do you finish? It's just not a baseball podcast, but football teams have a better shot of completing one game per week per team. We'll see. It's a whole, it's a massive wild card. I mean, it is.

I'm just, no, I'm just like trying to think, like, how if what happens, what's happening in baseball right now, something similar happens in football and a team just can't play. I guess you have a buy week to move. I would think at some point and these conversations are probably going on around the clock at 345 Park Avenue. If they're going to make some type of flex, more flexible nature to the schedule that maybe adds in another buy week or something that allows them to have a little more wiggle room in case they lose a team. I think they have they'll have contingencies and they have said, you know, they kind of build. it out so that it could go as the Super Bowl in theory could go as late as the end of February, which was three weeks later.

So I think to your point, Dan, they're ready and they, but it hasn't all been written down. And I think that was one thing. I think the NFL is watching Major League Baseball, and they're figuring out as they go. And I think what the NFL might learn from that is they want to have, here's what the procedure is if this happens, if there is an outbreak, because it. It sort of felt like either the MLB wasn't putting that out there or they were, they weren't, they didn't really have it written down of what they were.

And the problem here, of course, what are we got? All right, this just in, Antonio Brown is being suspended for eight games for violation of the NFL personal conduct policy, beginning whenever he signs per league source. Hmm. Good one, Rex. Or doesn't sign. I thought he was retired.

I don't know. That's real breaking news. I mean, basically, Lamar Jackson is not the only good quarterback who's trying to get him on his team. Lamar Jackson said it publicly, and John Harbaugh, his coach on Thursday said, well, okay, that's, you know, I take Lamar's opinion seriously, which sounded like he was, you know, John Harbaugh was open to it. And then Harbaugh even hinted at this was coming, that it was his understanding. that he wasn't really allowed to play yet. And now that this is out there, some team will probably,

just based on those Harbaugh comments, it seems like some team might take a shot. It might just be the Ravens. Now back to your, you know, baseball takes or whatever you were saying, Greg. I have no baseball takes. What was the, by the way,

what was Lamar Jackson had a worrying quote about Antonio Brown? Something like he's a guy, he's a guy we need in our life, in our locker room. I mean, they know he was working out with him this offseason. I feel like we have a lot of evidence to say that is not someone you need in your locker room. But the guy can play.

And we've also said we're not talking to Antonio Brown on the show unless there's some tangible news. That's tangible news. Now there's a structure in place for that discipline and teams can make their decision whether they want to get in bed with that player. My point I was going to make before we move on out of this COVID talk is, yes, the NFL could build in some flexibility about pushing back the Super Bowl to late February, but it's a catch-22, because the longer the season lasts, the more you leave yourself open to calamity with a positive testing. There's really, there's no foolproof method for this.

No, the foolproof method is the country having cases under control. And even that's not foolproof, but that's the best method. I mean, I feel like a nuclear bomb would need to land for them. not to play the opener on that Thursday night in September. I think they just, I know I just feel they're hell-bent on that happening. From there, it's hang on, we'll see what happens. Unless one of those teams get. Sure, I mean, everything's in flux, but it just seems the idea of delaying the start

of the season, which might make just as much sense. You're not hearing a lot about that. In other news, unsigned franchise player, Yonik and Gokwe of the Jaguars, is not reported to camp. We all know, and Gakway wants out desperately of Jacksonville. He said he has no plans, or as we understand, he has no plans to sign his franchise tag and end his hold out anytime soon. Since he's not technically under contract because he hasn't put pen to paper,

you can't find him the way you would find a player that would hold out in a traditional sense. So this is a bit of a Texas standoff, if you will, here from Kingsland. Doug Marone told reporters this week that he has not even been in contact with the lineland. He's the only holdout. He's not a holdout technically, as you mentioned, but he's it. But it's also, it's a great year to just stay away. I mean, no one's even practicing for two, two and a half weeks. What is Ingaqui really missing as long as he's in shape?

But he is the only one. There is not a veteran contract holdout, which is partly, I think, because of the pandemic. But I think a lot of it is just the new. CBA so aggressively discouraged people from holding out because you can take your money away and it's working. There's no veterans out there looking for more money entering this game. I guess because he could play on another team under the tag. So maybe there's a scenario where if you had enough cap money, someone would, you know, if they viewed themselves as a win this year type team. And I looked at a couple teams that have 20 million plus cap room and I see them as

playoff potential bills eagles titans patriots cults each of them it's hilarious the patriots have 20 million in cap room they had zero when they signed cam new and if i'm cam newton i would be like hey how about give me some of that money corona helped them out financially i mean if in no other way radio silence in jacksonville uh some some contact in tennessee the mystery surrounding defensive end vick Beasley. He has been in contact with Titans GM John Robinson. He will Beasley report to the team in the quote, near future. Beasley was a no show for the first few days of, two days of camp. And it made you wonder if he was going to be opting out for the season. But at this point, it seems like that's not the case. It's the same Beasley had 15 and a half sacks a few years back. And that is something that

the Titans could really use on their defense. I know you're excited about these Titans now, Dan. You're just... Me? You've gone all the way around. You're big Titans guy now. I wouldn't say that. They're fine.

They're fine. They're just another team. You know? But they're not the Titans anymore. That's over. Just like the, you know, the Washington R words. That's gone. So too is the T word on the Around the NFL podcast.

Unless they somehow reacquired Marcus Marriota and then spent four years convincing themselves that he's a franchise quarterback. I don't know. I don't think that's going to happen, though. In other news, spinning through the old league. The League of Ball, football, that is. Really vamping here. We're wrapping up, you know, an off-season storyline.

We've spent a lot of time on here finishing up the news. Monday night football. Let's get a little update on what's going on in the booth. 3SPN, which has been, obviously, the world-wide leader has been trying to land a big fish, Tony Romo, Peyton Manning, Al Michaels, Drew Brees, none of these things worked out.

So what do they do? And our buddy, I'm reading this, this is the info I'm getting here from Andrew Marchand, our buddy at the New York Post, would love to have it again on the show. He's their media guide. He does a great job. He likened it to ESPN trying to land a franchise quarterback and instead landing on some game managers. Steve Levy, Brian Greasy, Lewis Riddick, all will be in the booth for Monday night games this year. We'll see if this is a long-term situation, Greg, with all the big money

deals coming up and ESPN and ABC may be looking to eventually get that franchise. franchise star. But it looks like we have some adults in the booth that should be able to deliver a professional broadcast that doesn't drive everyone completely insane. Right, which is great. I mean, we've talked about it. There's so many times I'm watching like the Fox's fourth team and just thinking like, well, this would be better than Monday Night Football. Like they're doing a fine job. I think Louis Riddick has a really high ceiling. I like him. I wish it was a two-man booth. I just feel like you're just asking for it with the three-man booth. It's just, it's harder for everyone. and they haven't all worked together before.

But I do think it'll be an upgrade and they'll make Monday nights a lot less frustrating for us. I know for Wes, this is going to be a welcome news. He needed this. They needed to make a change and they probably should have made one last offseason and they kind of stuck to it. I do wonder, though, if you're Lewis Riddick

because I think he could really shine on Monday Night Football is they are they legit game managers where they're basically just going to turn around when things get back to normal and replace them with the team they really want with one of these shiny, you know, retired quarterbacks. I hope that if they thrive, they give a chance of them sticking around.

I had a very interesting interaction that I really can't repeat on this show with Brian Greasy in 1999 that will forever shade how I feel about the person. Positively or negatively. I will just say... Doesn't sound positive. To be fair, I mean, this is a lot of,

long time ago. This is a totally different person back then. I will just leave it at that. But I hope it would well. Bear knuckle parking lot, Barrall? Cessler v. Greasy? I mean, why would I get into it? He is huge. Like, you just think he's a quarterback. He's actually a giant person. Wait, all right, without getting into those story, but altercation with Greasy? No. But an unpleasant interaction where I probably should not have bothered him. I saw him out on the town in downtown Denver and should have not bothered him um well he was sort of infamous that you know he was in the news quite a bit for um you know his drinking and his uh had some legal issues because of it too right around right around that time so i'm not trying to right well i would it all together but he was sort of he was famous

in denver for uh living the high life as a player tough spot trying to replace john no way you know people yeah i think that was part of it was just right he you know i it was a tough transition and maybe i caught him in an off um moment and then yeah and and and and in Brian's defense, Mark and I have been in the news for drinking as well at times. Yeah, no, like I, I'm not really, I'm not really judging him. I just, um, like I was also out on the town. It's not going to come up in a big Google search like I just did for Greasy just to make sure, you know. Well, this didn't make for you guys, I'm saying that's good.

It probably shouldn't have made this news show either. So Mark and I have avoided the blotter. So that's a good start. Um, all right. And, uh, one last thing. Get well soon. Tom Coughlin. The former Giants coach and Jaguars executive fractured four ribs, slightly punctured his lung and needed stitches in his head after a bicycle accident last weekend in Jacksonville. Dang. Hospitalized for the night. In the words of Coughlin, another man on a racing bike comes out of nowhere and clips the front of my bike.

73 years old. Looks like he's on the mend. can you even imagine like it sounds like he got roughed up Tom here but if Tom had any of his faculties after he got knocked off the bike you know in the middle of this park he's finding a switch

from the nearby brush and just lashing into this other biker just seven shots on the heinie I think it's always weird that you see anything we're reckless wick of a snapper that's possible maybe that's what he would have done but whenever like a famous person

gets into a car accident or a bike accident like this with a total unknown. I think it would be weird to be the person on the other end that like the person that got saved by Joaquin Phoenix, remember that? I don't think that seemed like a PR stunt to me, but Joaquin Phoenix pulled like a man out of his car in like the Hollywood streets. It just, I don't know how I could, didn't Sean McVeigh save someone? All sorts. A lot of them seem like PR lovers, but there was a similar situation. My boy, Bono from you two, was biking in Central Park like five years ago and almost killed himself. Same thing. somebody he said someone cut him off like imagine you killed bono in central park on your bike

it would be terrible it's like you run the guy over it's like wait who was that all right let's do the mailbag that's what's happening in the news all right buckle up gregg we're going to have to connect with our listeners i'm you you are you are presenting this in a totally ridiculous way maybe i did i miss being able to kill segments it used to be kind of a whole bit so You know, you're just setting it up for me. Okay. The last mailbag. All right.

The last mailbag, let's call this. All right, let's get it going. We'll start with Get Funny. How deeply do you think the Patriots opted out defense will affect Cam's stock for next season? And if things don't go well, do you foresee issues developing during the season? Greg, when I saw this, the reason I pulled this one out is I remember what you wrote about Cam when he signed with the Pats that he finally got some, good luck. And it's hard not to see this as another stroke of bad luck that he gets to the Patriots. The backbone of the defense disappears and he has to make good now with a lesser

Patriots team. Yeah, I think the defense had a recipe to decline even before losing Hightower. Chung, I'm not too worried about it. I don't think it affects Cam at all in terms of his value. Cam's going to play well, you know, based on what McDaniels puts out there for him and how the offense plays. And I don't see, you know, whether they win games or lose games, obviously it'd help them if they're going into the playoffs and everything. But he's going to be able to set his value, reset it. And heck, all this salary cap space,

maybe it'll be the Patriots that give him a nice contract if he's playing well. Mark, I'll tee you up on this one from our buddy, Neil Dutton. We love Neil. What classic movie Most deserves a reboot that hasn't had one yet. We don't need another look at the Spider-Man origin. And although those movies, the latest reboot, are excellent. I've been watching them with my kids. We need a modern take on Logan's run, in my opinion, Neil says.

What about you, Mark? Well, I mean, well, that works for me because Logan's run, I don't like that movie at all. I saw that at a YMCA lock-in in seventh grade, and like it did a bad things to the room. I didn't remember that. Yeah. I just, because I was like, this is the weirdest movie to show a bunch of third and fourth graders. It had a lot of adult themes, I thought, going through it. I would look, most remakes just shouldn't happen.

Let's start there. But if you want to make some money, I think you could redo the outsiders. And you could, that could be like a parade of like today's biggest young stars. And that, you know, the themes could be changed and altered a little bit and updated. I get scared of things like I could see them making like Lubowski 2020. Like just don't do certain things. please with a lot of remakes just like don't remake goonies don't remake maybe i would maybe redo the

graduate or like um you know it's like that shouldn't be remade because it's a good movie but if you updated it where like Dustin Hoffman was the grandfather and all that chaos that he um spun is happening like two generations down or i'm more into like certain sequels they should do than remakes but what about you guys maybe ferris feelers day off i don't know No, and I think maybe part of what Neil's getting at is not necessarily a remake, but an origin story type tale where you learn what happened before. I'm very excited about because I'm just finishing like my fifth rewatch of the Sopranos. I have two episodes left. The Saints, the Many Saints of Newark, I believe it's called, is a movie that's coming out next year that's going to kind of tell you about the backstory of Tony Soprano's father and the group that was around him when he was coming up and a young Tony Soprano played by James Gandalfone.

Fieni's real-life son, James Gandalfini, who sadly passed away in 2013. I love that idea. Right, but that's fun to me. I like that too, but that's essentially a prequel or that's not a remake. When you remake Sopranos, I wouldn't touch that nonsense. No. All right. Let's move on.

Kyle Slick. Do you think the San Diego Chargers, the org, not players, regret moving to L.A. Is there a future where they find their way back to San Diego or maybe move to another market? is the lack of excitement long-term or temporary? It's so hard to tell anything right now, and it's not just an L.A. thing. It's a world thing about something that seems suddenly so small as whether an NFL team will get a footing

in terms of local fan base. But it certainly was foreboding in terms of moving into the SoFi Stadium this fall and the idea of trying to get a stadium filled with fans that are rooting for the home team, whether it ever happens or not, I don't know. But it did cause me to do a little bit of quick research. And I don't know if this has changed because this reporting is October of 2018. But according to Mike Florio, the Chargers have a firm 20-year lease at SoFi Stadium.

And the Chargers hold a pair of exclusive 10-year options after the 20 years. So unless there's a wiggle room or this has changed since that report, charges aren't going anywhere. I'd love for them to go back to San Diego. It feels like they should have never left. Money got in the way of all that. But it seems like they're going to have to force themselves to make it work here. I don't think they have any regrets at all. Spanos family, the ownership,

they had a bad relationship with the city of San Diego, with the stadium there. They weren't going to be able to build their own stadium. They wanted to get out of there. And I think they felt fortunate that they were able to jump in on this Rams deal, whether that's good for Chargers fans or, the NFL is another matter. It's not, even it hasn't been.

It's not. I mean, but this is, it's a different, it's a family, it's a team. They don't have their money in other businesses. I saw something that they, you know, they bought that team for $84 million in like the 80s, something like that. I mean, Joey Bosa's guaranteed money was about what the team cost for them to buy. They're not one of the most cash rich teams. That's no, no secret.

They're praying this thing works out, but they're basically just kind of hanging on to the Rams coattails. It's not a good place to be. It wasn't a good place for the Clippers to be. It hasn't been a good place earlier for the Jets to be. Like, you don't want to be that second team just kind of hanging on to the other one. But you don't think there are any regrets. I don't because they had no, you know, if the NFL could have forced them to sell, that might have been, you know, like this was their way out.

They're still getting that same check that every team gets. They split it 32 ways. It's the most, you know, anti-capitalist idea possible for the bull. most money-making capitalist thing is they're getting that same check from the TV revenue and everyone else that all the teams get. So they were happy to solve the stadium because they were in an untenable situation. I think there's no regrets with leaving the situation in San Diego. The idea that everyone is going to look with rose-colored glasses at what's happening in L.A. is, to me, I have a problem with that. I think the best advice coming from X-Raters and Rams players and people involved with when both

teams were here in the past was LA is not a two-town, a two-team town. It should not be. It just shouldn't be. And that was when Raiders and Rams teams in the playoffs, they had attendance issues. This sticks out as an isolated big problem for the NFL. If this season were going as we expected, Chargers attendance would be one of the bigger stories around. NFL is way more popular, though. That's something to consider. Like, there are a lot of stadiums that were half empty all the time back then, you know, and now there aren't any. And I think there was, I don't know if they're going to get Chargers fans in there, but they're going to get people in there. They're going to get people who want to watch NFL games. They're going to get the opposition, just like they did

at the last place. I mean, the problem is that... That's a little bit of a mess for the players. It's a problem when the team that should have probably come to L.A. if you wanted to do, was the Raiders, and they went to Las Vegas. I mean, just, I think too many, you could just have a common sense conversation with most people, and they could identify issues with this. A little internal podcast questioning here from Josh Rosnowski When does the behind-the-scenes doc Of the Wheel of Teams come out

How many episodes A segment meant to shine a light On less talked about teams Cut short prematurely After landing on seven highly talked about teams Including the Jets Seems like there is a story there There is no story

The Titans were one of the teams First of all there were some random We knew that It was it was It was part of the issue with that from the beginning. We knew we weren't going to get to all of them. We were going to get to as many as we hoped. But there was no chance doing it weekly,

starting in May or whatever, that we were ever going to get to. Well, I'd say to the person who asked the question, keep digging. Luke Robbins, how is that name familiar? Because he is the man who wrote the great Connie Fox song. Not the winning song. Here, let me start over. Because I totally thought this is the guy that wrote the song that won.

But it turns out he wrote a song that didn't win. Luke Robbins says, At what point am I the creator of the controversial Connie Fox Cox song going to be commissioned to create a theme song for Patrick Claibon? I think this guy's too hot. I don't think he, I think he's a little too toxic with his songwriting styles. And I just don't think he is that guy.

but I respect that he's throwing his name in the ring. But, of course, this is a democracy. I'm curious what you guys think. Patrick Claibon does deserve his song. It's a big leap to say commissioned because you gave us the previous work for free. Commission suggests we'd be... Make it and send it.

You're the only one right now, but it is a good idea. It'd be good to get a Claibon song. And I apologize. Colleen was on a couple weeks ago when you guys were on and I totally forgot about bringing the song back. Oh, you did?

That's a stunner. there's uh let me know that we should have had the song but i know she wants to join us next week so that there's a little tease for next so we did like a month long contest to pick a song and your first role in the host chair with connie on you don't play the song didn't even think about it neither did bricky so you know oh you're throwing erika under the bus that feels no it's not right i asked you i was like should we play the song no i hate that song now she's now erika oh wait a minute he she's completely making I'll find the slack.

I'll give Ricky credit. She's a great liar. Rookie's going full Jemal Adams now, just making up lies. I have received. I was like, hey. I would have to have that song. He's got an intro, Colleen, and he was like, Dan and his stupid ideas. Like, I hate this song.

Like, I have it in writing. Wow. Well, speaking of digging, you've almost convinced Mark. Mark is the one guy who will fall for your nonsense. What nonsense? Now you're swinging an arrow at me? Well, I'm just saying the looks on his face, he was like... You're pretty defensive, Greg.

He was buying it. Yeah, it just seems like you're protesting heavily. Well, that's what you do when someone's coming at you. I pushed for that song to win. The segment was lesser because of it. Can we... I don't know what's happening with Greg today. Erica, can we hear one of the Connie Fox songs that didn't win just for fun?

Connie's here She's gonna piece it all together for us Finally someone we can trust Connie's here Why are all these animals smiling What could they be hiding Connie Fox will solve the puzzle Nice

That's such a Connie Fox vibe to it a version of an aspect of Connie that we know. I never thought there would be an original song tied to this podcast that had the French horn in it, and yet here we are. TMR Trooper is another long-time listener of the show. What's more likely, Dan permanently moves to Texas, or Greg returns to Martha's Vineyard as the prodigal son. A little biblical talk there from TMR in a big spot.

I'll start. Texas is a great place. I've really enjoyed my time here. It's too hot. I've got to be honest with you. too hot here. That bothers me. But other than that, I like the state. I like the people. I like there's family here. I would not rule it out as a possibility. It's not likely to happen, but I truly do enjoy my time here. How about you, Greg? Yeah, I'll never move back to master.

I never lived in Martha's Vineyard. I live there once for a summer bumming around waiting tables. So I've never lived there, but my parents live there. I don't think I'll ever live on the East Coast again. I would be surprised. Greg, how about this? Would you ever take a waiter's job again? I would. I actually think about all the other little random jobs that I wouldn't mind doing like later in life.

Maybe waiting doesn't really give you that much satisfaction, but it's good for the cash. It's not bad. You see new people. Ricky, I'm going to keep you on screen here. Our buddy Christopher Singh for the team with the best chance to go from last place in the division in 2019 to a

playoff spot in 2020. The Miami Dolphins, these are options. The Miami Dolphins with Tua, the Cardinals, Kyler Murray, making the lead candidate, the Lions with a healthy Matthew Stafford, and the Bengals with young Joe Burrow, most likely of that group. I'd say the Cardinals, I think with DeAndre Hopkins added to that list and Kyler has a second year, that's my vote. I feel like the only one that would shock me

is if we saw the dolphins in playoffs. The other three, football's crazy. I wouldn't be shocked by the dolphins. I wouldn't. But I kind of was starting to feel like the lions have something up their sleeve. I already think that they're a wildcard team. Football outsiders had them as,

I mean, they were almost all four teams almost had the exact same projection from them. But the lions by just like a decimal point were their NFC North favorites. Matt Stafford when he's healthy is badass And also their COVID release their COVID list Like I think didn't they even put like carry on Johnson Like they have like a staff

They got seven guys on it They have like a I feel like they're in a good Carrey on Johnson not on the COVID list But I mean this is The COVID list is interesting Because you actually don't even know who got COVID or not Unless the players want to A lot of TJ Hawkins

It's also six weeks away from the season right now So I don't put too much on Oh it was Kenny Golliday I'm sorry and T.J. Hawkinson. Kenny Gallaudet. But either way, like, that's a really, like, they're beefy. You know, the Lions, yes, the Lions need something up their sleeve. I know they went to the playoffs a few years back,

and they got robbed in that playoff game against the Cowboys, I think it was. They should have won the game. Something happened, wacky at the end. But you know the game, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. Because it was before. Lions fans are listening right now. They're like, yes, we know the game.

This is the most painful memory. of our last 20 years, we don't have much. It's a rough law. It was that call. It was a rough call. What was the call while we're here? Against the Cowboys. It was, I don't even remember.

It was a week before Desk caught it. The cat, it was right, but it was, man, I'd have to. All right. Cool. This is radio called. This from Drew, how is Mark finding his Blue Jays fandom so far? Mark, a fan of the not Toronto Blue Jays, but the Buffalo Blue Jays. It's a one-year contract.

I, and I, you know, I think. a lot of people thought I'd probably watch that Sunday and then never again. I've watched every one of their games. I actually watched the entire 10 inning loss. They had this guy Yamaguchi who's lost, he's been dinged up in two extra innings losses. Get him out of there. This guy cannot deal with it. But they have a... He's played that role in these extra inning games. I'm not one of these guys that pretends I know everything about the team because I've been following them for four days. People ask me questions. I say, I have no idea what the answer is. But I, and I also don't have a baseball eye, but I did watch this guy, Nate Pearson, pitch, and he looked like

the real deal to me. I mean, he was super solid. So I think they're a frisky team. They're three and four right now. They took these, they were in much better position two days ago. They're out of commission for Corona on the weekend, terrible timing. They are frisky. I could see them as a wild card team. But aren't a ton of baseball teams getting in the playoffs anyways? Yeah, more than half. So they're in. I mean, barring a meltdown. Well, they're not, they got to finish They got to have to have 16 teams able to play the playoffs. 20% of the league is out this weekend with corona-related delays, which is a pretty big percentage.

Got to keep the faith. Yeah, that's pretty rough right now. But you picked a really good team, Mark. That is a team. They are in the American League East of my Yankees, and they have an awesome young core, Boba Chet. These are all guys tied to former stars. Bobichette, his father, Mark, that's right in your mid-90s.

Is not a Star Wars character, Mark? I think you're thinking of Boba Fett who, that's, he's not that person. Yeah, Vigio's son. Yes, Kevin Bigio, Craig Bigio's son, Bobichette, Dante Bichette's son, and Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Vlad Guerrero Sr. Son, I mean, all those guys are peak prospects.

I took a lot of advice from baseball watchers on which team to pick, and they got a lot of mentions, and that's why I went there, and I'm glad I did. They have been fun to watch. All right, well, a couple more. from Scrid, would you trade not being on the cover of the Gatesville Messenger for a release of the Delaware tapes? In a second, I would give up the cover of the messenger. And I wanted to thank, by the way, Heather Ashley, who wrote the piece that was on the front page of this week's

messenger of the old Zusser. But I would give it all up if Greg just finally gave us the tapes, produced the Delaware tapes, and just made us all so happy in this time where there's not a lot of happiness. I like that you think I've just had them and I'm holding out all these years. And Delaware, of course, is Greg's Prague rock band that he started in high school and he was the lead singer. Ugh. One day.

Ricky, Dan of the Avenue. Can you rank the Taylor Swift albums? That's like naming. That's harder than naming your first. born like i cannot it okay well let me preface saying this like it's probably the hardest thing i've ever had to do and i think no matter what i say will be controversial but that's just a testament to swifties and their passion you know so hot take right off the bat nineteen eighty nine her release in 2014 banger after banger album's actually perfect from start to to finish besides shake it off right

second this is i mean this it can go anyway fearless 2008 you got fearless 15 love story forever and always i mean come on third red 2012 you know you got 22, all too well. I knew you were trouble. Speak now is fourth, even though it's incredible. Mine, mean, dear John, like enchanted, hello. Lover, all the way down at number five in 2019. And it's still freaking perfect, right? Lover, paper rings, Cornelia Street. Now I've got folklore after that. It is grown on me. I really like it. The newest. 2020, you know, August, the Great Last American Dynasty, all that stuff. Taylor Swift, self-title. I album in 2006, I think.

You know, you should have said no, picture to burn, teardrops on my guitar, like real grassroots Taylor, so like you, it's awesome. And then reputation in 2017 obviously is going to be last, but it's still not even bad. Like, you have, don't blame me so it goes gorgeous, you know. I think that's...

New Year's Day. Yeah, I mean, there's so many good ones. It's great songs in that album. Even though it's the worst one, you know? So it's like, what, what are we doing here? Delicate? You got Delicate on that record? Oh, come on. that's good that was a good list thank you i think yeah it's really tough off the top they're all so good there's no wrong answer you know good job rickie thank you i pretty much agree with you i don't know her earlier stuff but i trust you on that and finally this one i guess this guy

started a twitter handle to ask this question or he just talks about this constantly this from the slim big ben revenge tour at slim big ben double of How good do you think skinny big Ben will be? Rathlisberger, the Steelers quarterback who's known for being, you know, a bit Zafting, you know, a bit, has been working out after that elbow surgery and apparently he's really trimmed down some of the body mass index. But is a skinny, big bed, a guy that we want, I feel like Big Big Ben is the guy we need. it's not it's not skinny ben big ben for a reason I think it's good for him

but um you know wait and see Steelers like not getting talked about as much as I think they should be this off-season not really at all they seem to be going right under the radar but this is a weird off-season to say that anyone is kind of under the radar

because everything is kind of just buried right now how much weight did he lose how skinny is he I don't like I'm I don't know, but the other reason why... He looks good in the little workout videos, but you haven't really seen much. He seems in good shape. He played fairly well in 2018.

They're a Super Bowl contender. I don't know how under the radar are they. To me, they're a top five team, and a top five or six type of team. I just don't think they're talked about as a top five team this offseason, and I hear what you're saying, Dan, but I mean, in their own division, I think probably the Ravens get talked about endlessly.

and probably the Browns get talked more about more than the Steelers this off-season, which is absurd. The reason I bring this up, because in another mailbag, Jay Glazer writes, Ah, mailbag, not the email bag. He had a little crack at Big Ben's expense

that his idea of an off-season workout was one yoga class and then going to the bar or something. I couldn't remember exactly what he said, but it led to Jay Glazer having to have a conversation with Rothersburg to clear the air because big ben thought that was selling him short on his how hard he's worked during his rehab so listen big ben's plugged in he's skinny i don't know if that's the best version

he hears the chirping he's someone who's very interested in what the listeners are saying his twitter followers are saying he's all over it are you still blocked greg have you checked in in a while i can check i i assume i still would be what is it it's weird it's like big ben seven or something underscore seven it's underscore big ben seven wait way to go locking up that uh name big ben underscore seven uh all right while greg looks that up yeah that's it for the mailbag i'm blocked still blocks good job um thank you to everybody for listening to this week shows we'll be back again with a full slate of audio shows so make sure you check that out uh and um listen everybody have a nice weekend. Enjoy it. Be safe.

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